Shocking? Running A/C for hours, 2021 Ford F-150 Hybrid Generator
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2021
- In this video, we test out how much gas we use with the 2021 Ford F-150 hybrid generator via the Powerboost hybrid. We let the F-150 generator run for several hours to see how much gas it uses to run the A/C on a camper.
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Set the truck on eco-idle, runs at higher rpm's for a shorter period of recharge.
So glad I found this video. When I first saw this truck on TFL I thought this would be a game changer for people with campers. Interesting to see someone testing it.
You were correct it's a game changer for sure, bye bye gas generator
For the hard core, extended stay boon-docker, this coupled with solar and extra water in the bed seems like a killer set-up. With a composting toilet, the only limiting factor would be running out of food.
For anyone interested in the math on this, technically a gallon of gasoline contains 33.7kWh worth of energy. So, if you had a theoretical (but impossible) generator that was 100% efficient, you would be able to get 33700 watts out of every gallon of gas, or enough to run this camper for around 13 hours or so.
Gas engines are around 17% efficient on average, plus energy losses in charging the battery, inverter losses and heat losses in the cables, etc.
All in, you should be getting around 4 to 5 kWh worth of electricity from each gallon of gas. Since the truck has a 30 gallon gas tank, one could probably run the camper 50 to 60 hours of day time use with the A/C on, and probably closer to 120 hours of total use between day and night.
So, 5 days worth is probably a pretty good estimate...
Might have a low fuel cut off, that way the truck won’t be left with an empty tank.
BTW, this is why Tesla's crush gas vehicles in 'fuel economy'. Gas vehicles run around 15-20% efficient efficient, with newer, smaller engines running better, closer to maybe 30%.
Tesla custom engineered motors will out accelerate any car on the market, and are around 96% efficient.
@@colinpovey2904 Exactly. The combustion engine is around 35% peak efficient at a single RPM, but is only 17% efficient on average. Electric motors are over 90% efficient, which is the reason why you can have the performance of a Turbo V8 or a V12, yet have better fuel efficiency than a small 4 cylinder engine...
So about the same as an on board Onan generator would.
@@F239141 Probably. Gas to electricity conversion using an engine is probably pretty similar between engines. Diesel engines should be slightly more efficient due to higher energy content, but other than that, the process should be about the same.
I just got my F150 Hybrid last week and cannot wait to attach it to my trailer when I get it next month. Already I love the power in the back for charging batteries on the road. I'm 50 years old and 120 pounds, and a solo traveler, so not having to constantly deal with 2 45 pound generators is great for me! And I also won't have to worry about locking them up at campgrounds. Win all around for me! Great video, thanks.
Thanks for the confirmation review. Use my powerboost to run my moveable shop out in the woods...band saw, table saw, drill press, planer etc. Hate noisy generators. I often run it all day. This truck is fantastic. Amazingly the truck has a better tow rating than the first generation F-350 power stroke crew cab srw it replaced.
The generator and the tow rating sold me. Have tested both extensively as described and hauling nice loads of lumber and logs. Great ride too! I would have been happy with an XL with vinyl and minimum creature comforts. But, got talked into a Lariat. Nana likes it so it was worth the extra bucks. Last...it is so nice to drive up to a drive through or talk to a neighbor without having to shut the truck off. On the road unloaded I average about 25mpg. Towing my trailer loaded about 13.
Great truck. Love the quiet. Love the utility. Love always having an emergency generator tuned up and ready to go.
Thanks for the info. Btw, rv camper is 30 amps at 110 volt not 220-240 volts. Another words same as residential house outlet just more current available at 30 amps vs 15-20 amps. I mention this so watchers dont plug their RV into a 220-240 volt outlet and detroy all the electrical in the RV ;)
The rv plugs will not fit into a 220 volt outlet. The 30 and 50 amp plugs are also different. Good catch though.
My first thought when he was saying he bought an adapter!
Haha
Did he not say that it was a 240volt 30amp twist lock to 120volt 30 amp adapter? I've watched something similar to this on TFlL Trucks, but with a dual 50amp adapter. I work in water so I have no clue about electric other than hooking up pig tails for plumbing appliances.
@@51AB not true actually. I had a contractor install a 30 amp plug on my house, but little did he know that that meant I needed 110 even though I specified it was for a camper. Everything ran fine for about 10 seconds, until my convertor started smoking. I lost the fireplace and microwave, but fortunately hadn't turned on the AC.
@@cameronkeegan4480 I'm sure what you're saying. I've installed many 30 amp RV servuces. The 30 amp RV plug is completely different than a 220 volt dryer, stove or welding outlet. There are only 3 terminals on a 30 amp Rv plug. Hot, neutral and ground. If your electrician hooked up two hot 120 feeds no wonder everything blew up.
I'd like to see someone run it for at least 8 hours. Fill up before and after the test to know exactly how much fuel it used, and what it cost. I think that would be the best test to see how efficient it actually is.
Impossible test really with way too many variables. I did this test during the heart of the day because an overnight test has just too many variables. What happens if the weather changes? The temperature drops? The wind picks up? We turn down the A/C because the camper holds the cold air better at night?
Running it during the day for a set period of time shows the worst case scenario. You can take the result and multiple it by 4 to get the 8 hours of the test, which I talk about, and you'll see fuel usage will be around a quarter of a tank, if that, like I said.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I don't agree that it's impossible at all. I mentioned an 8 hour test because I don't believe a shorter test would use enough fuel to give an accurate result. My point is that it would be nice to know that with the AC running how many litres of fuel you can expect the truck to burn. As an RV owner and frequent traveler this would be valuable information. Especially when boondocking for a week. That way you can decide whether it's better to use a standalone generator, or the truck from a cost perspective.
The problem with your test is that you went off of what the EVIC displayed for miles to empty. This isn't reliably measurable in terms of how many litres are burned.
Also, based on the data from many other RV owners theres no where near ¼ tank of usage after only 8 hours of run time.
I've enjoyed all your videos on the Powerboost, and had been looking out for this one for a couple months since you mentioned it initially. I was just bummed that the litres per hour powering the RV AC still hasn't been tested.
@@skidoomxz550x problem is SOC of the battery at start and finish would need to be calculated. Also you’d have a variable load… you’d instead need to run constant loads like heat guns
@@cybertrk Not really, the battery has such a low capacity that I don't think it would make a difference. Based on all the data I've seen the truck runs for about 4 minutes with the engine off, then about 1 minute with the engine on. So even if you're fully charged in the beginning it'll drain it back down in approx. 4 minutes.
Cranking the AC right down would give you a constant load. Even better would be to test it on an average weather day in your area. Let it cycle on and off at whatever temp you typically set it to. That way you can get the cost on an "average" day. This would allow you to assume for "X" amount more or less on a warmer or cooler day.
I left my truck plugged in for three days in generator mode in Iowa in August. I think I used a 1/4 tank of gas. 30 foot camper.
😳 there's nothing better on the market! Ford is amazing!
Thanks for running this test. It helps people get an idea of how the system would work in the real world... including forgetting your keys in trailer.
Yeah, well I really thought I had my keys with me!!! LOL
It's also hot because that giant glass sunroof is open, closing it will make a huge difference.
The windows on the camper are open also!
Thank you so much for making these videos. I absolutely love watching.
awesome video, please post more of these onboard generator videos. love them!
Hoping to see a Super Duty Gasser with the built in generator / Hybrid.
Duuuude, you ain’t kiddin! Imagine a 7.3 gasser with a bigger, beefier electric motor and battery. Of course Ford will introduce it RIGHT after I purchase an F150 Powerboost, knowing my luck.
They need to make a diesel hybrid, way more efficient
Thanks Tim! No days off 👍
Always hustling!
The 7.2KW pro power is one heck of a package to be honest. I saw another video where the truck actually used less fuel over an extended period of time than a gas Honda 5.5KW generator.
And it’s not a separate item, and it doesn’t make a loud annoying noise constantly, and it has emissions equipment unlike a generator that just pollutes unabated.
Thanks for this video. Very useful to prospective buyers.
Even if the engine idled the entire time you would burn less than a gallon an hour, I'm retired police officer and we would have the cars running all shift 8hrs they only burn 5 or 6 gallons in an explorer. If the A/C was running it on the car it would burn almost double that.
Which is why the NYPD LOVES Ford Fusion Hybrids. Most police cars run constantly. I don't remember the numbers for amount of gas only saved (they save not only gas but less maintenance as well), but their actual comparison figures that that, even allowing for the higher initial costs, the Hybrid cars saved the NYPD more than $10,000 per car over the typical 3 year life of a squad car.
@@colinpovey2904 so the climate control runs off the hybrid battery?
Great video
Just got a Powerboost and will be dry camping this week.
Looking forward to trying this
Great demo test, thanks
Thanks. This was exactly what I’ve been looking for.
Wow wonderful video. I am sold. I just need to wait until I can afford one.
I was there when your winter test failed and was waiting for you to do this again sooner rather than later but couldn't wait. Got my own F150 Power Boost and our little 9000 btu trailer and boondocked over night twice at Cracker Barrel coming and going with a 30 amp to 110 adapter and worked great. Love our truck! I want to get my hands on your adapter tho so I can use that plug too!
Boondocking in Idaho, running the ac in 95 F weather, I was getting a cycle of 8 min on the hybrid battery, 2 min running consistently. This past weekend in Laramie I used 2.3 gal of gas in 10 hours running time. 2022 Lariat Powerboost.
Hi, what options do you have on the truck and what did the payload turn out to be? TIA
For future reference if you do another test... Using a Bluetooth OBD2 adapter and the TORQUE app you can read your fuel level in a percentage. In other words, a digital fuel gauge. Maybe Ford's diagnostic mode will show a digital fuel gauge as well. Anyhow, more accurate than using miles remaining.
No longer “how many miles?, now its gonna be “how many hours?”
Winter will even things out, but now in August I am a little jealous of any place that describes 85 degrees as a typical summer day. That would be a cold snap here. It's 81 now and it's almost 10 PM.
Best video yet thank you
This hybrid is a game charger. Just think, that it's Ford's first try at a hybrid half ton. Should only get better from here!
Stupid idea when a $700 quiet inverter generator can do the same as your $50,000 truck. Dumb and dumber
@@michaeldobson8859 That truck was probably a lot more than 50,000. I am failing to see any efficiency here. inverter generator is the way to go.
@@michaeldobson8859 That generator will be much louder and require separate maintenance and refueling. Most campsites we go to don't allow using a noisy generator at night. A generator can't replace a pickup but this pickup can replace a generator. IIRC, he said this was a $750 option...
7200 watt inverter gen only runs 8 hours on a tank. At.one point ford advertised this package running for 32 hours at max load. Considering the cost for a truck with a tow package to begin with, being able to fill up, tow to the spot, hook up, party all weekend, and drive home with no refills, no gascans, no gen constantly running at night, seems like a good option for people who would like to utilize it.
But you'll need to enjoy it while it lasts, I don't see much for internal combustion in 10 years.
@@yankeedoodle7693 Yeah, ICE cars/trucks are going slowly going the way of the manual transmission. I'll miss the personality of them but I'm sure EVs will develop something as a replacement. I'm curious as to how those nostalgic EV car meet ups will look in 40 years lol.
Hi Tim,
This is a big score
I wonder if the new Tundra will have something similar to this truck. No noise power is great for an old guy like me. The older I get, the more i love silence.
Silence is golden. I'm completely with you there.
@@Pickuptrucktalk 👍
Quiet until the battery needs recharging. Engine will start up frequently to keep batter charged up.
@@robertheinkel6225 the truck doesn't make that much noise at all.
Good video. I saw this option and as a Ram fan boy thought that is best new option for a truck. If I get back into Camping will have to look into this. AC at night at some of my favorite camping spots where at 10:00 pm quite time starts but that thing does not really make any noise sound like a win to me. Hope to see some more videos like long run and gas used and then maybe a portable generator comparing to this in gas usage.
Check out the playlists from the home channel page. Got 30 videos on this truck.
It's been 25 years since Tim boasted he could go all day and night... well except for getting out of a sand trap... that could take a while.
lol
Thank you for this video sir - you are the man!
This is great content👍
I have a 22 powerboost but have not used the onboard power yet, thought about trying it this weekend.
That's a neat truck. I'm full off grid so that would be nice to have
I got the 2kw pro power plenty for small trailer
This is incredible, my uncle just got a Chevy 2500 and an airstream, and had to by a huge generator that is super loud, and I asked him why he didn’t just get the F-150 with the powerboast he didn’t even knew that this car existed
They do have generators that are quiet no need to buy a truck when you can buy a generator for $2000 😂
@@dor1tomcswagger69 yep, and storage batteries are better than ever these days as well.
I would already have one these powerboost trucks if they had them on the dealers lots!
I am just SO impressed with the F150 PB ... imagine if and when GM and RAM finally get into this action!
I don't think either one will duplicate this. GM is focusing on an all electric Silverado. The battery would probably be in the 150kWh range as they are claiming 400 miles of range.
The Ford is claiming around 230kWh worth of total energy available at peak load on the 7.2kW generator.
I haven't seen any hints from Ram or Chevy they are planning any Hybrid trucks, except for the mild Hybrid available over a decade ago.
You could run two RV’s off that truck 1 on each phase. As you are only using one side(phase) of that generator/inverter.
Thank you
i've been testing mine extensively over the last 2 months.....my camper is also a 30 amp hookup......i use the high idle option, for better turbo health....with AC on, and other draws for charging battery bank and whatnot, 2200-2400 watts is the average draw.....cycle times around 1 min idle, 6. mins battery only.....
Paul, you wrote: "i use the high idle option, for better turbo health." Can you explain this mode?
@@kdcarver in the settings area there is a choice of idle settings when the engine is idling and charging the battery. select high idle to be on. it idles the engine at about 1300RPM's, vs. the normal idle of aroung 900RPM's.
This is the first option on a new truck I would actually like to have. I need it on a 3/4 ton with a standard cab eight foot bed and with the 7.3 engine.
Nobody needs the 7.3. At that point buy a diesel. Why would you want less power & to spend more on gas?
@@Chumbucketsecret $10,000 buys a lot of gas.
That's awesome!
I have a 3.5L Eco boost V6 in my 2013 F-150. I live in Alabama and run my AC while parked for hours. I burn a little less than a gallon per hour of fuel with my engine running and the AC on full cold (Using an Xguage to measure fuel consumption). Your gas guage wouldn't have noticed just two gallons in your test. Really appreciate your test though, very good info. I may have to upgrade my F-150 to a Hybrid. I pull a travel trailer and that inverter feature would be great.
Yeah but in 2 hours his truck would have only ran for 24 minutes or so
It would be off the rest of the time. It cycles on and off.
He used maybe 1/3 gallon or $1
@jasonguy6572 Glad you pointed that out. Hybrids run only when the battery gets low. I use a Prius on some group campouts for lights, fridge coolers and tent usage. At 100-200 watt draw Engine runs about 4 mins per half hour for 3 to 4 days straight. I dont even notice the fuel usage.
Even if you never end up using it you may as well get the 7.2KW generator if you get no other options. Its one more option that will help resale later. That and 4wd was the only 2 options i got on mine.
Looking forward to a 50 amp generator being installed on the F350/450 models to run the big fifth wheel units.
Woah, hadn't even thought of this option. I hope that ends up being an option
@@Brandon_Neil it would make pulling into a truck stop a lot nicer. Just turn the generator on and go to sleep.
Agreed. Last September (2021), I was looking at purchasing a F350(XLT) and asked the sales rep if Ford was planning to add a generator to the Superduty series. He checked and he informed me that, at that time, Ford was not planning to. I am hoping that Ford changes this decision.
It wouldn't make sense unless they did a hybrid f350. The battery is a buffer for the generator. Minus the hybrid battery the engine in a regular truck runs 24/7. Then a regular generator with idle down is a lot more economical.
@@WisconsinDIYGuy so adding a battery pack and a generator to the PTO option of the transmission wouldn’t work? Seems like a great idea. I hate pulling off at a Loves and not being able to run my air conditioners.
Thanks nice video. Any ideas on how to properly set up a transfer switch to power part of your home during a power outage?
Hire an electrician and then go to Home Depot or any other store. There is an exterior plug you can install outside your house and then bring into your breaker box. From there, you need a power transfer switch in the fuse box.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I have a 2022 F150 Hybrid ordered. I got the 7.2kw one also. Have zero idea when it arrives, but really looking forward to getting. Again thanks for your video.
The range might change after you take it for a drive for a few miles
I cant wait to see what sort of early issues he has with the particulate filter the truck engine must be equipped with...I dont think you can simply let modern engines run at idle for hours on end without having problems in the exhaust filters early on. Maybe a high speed drive or two would clear it out, maybe not. Ive only experienced this issue with diesels, but I noticed the last car I bought in 2019 had a gas engine and an identical particulate filter as my diesel model had....got to imagine it will screw it up similarly.
I have a 2013 Ecoboost 3.5 f150with 190.000. I idle at least 8 to 14 hours 5 to 6 days a week. It runs as smooth as my 2020 2.7 Ecoboost f150
Man I could of used this truck this past weekend in the Adirondack mountains 🏔
Definitely has its uses.
Did you notice Fumes? I have a Tesla and I like being all electric. But I love the range of this truck. I had thought maybe turn the truck around so the fumes would not go into the trailer?
I didn’t notice fumes at all. New trucks aren’t like old trucks at all.
I'm interested in buying a F150 with the regular ecoboost and the 2.5kw generator, I wonder how well that would do in this test? The generator is a great idea and makes a lot of sense.
It would just take more fuel with the lower power output.
The other problem is you have another item to carry and maintain. They are much louder than a truck idling too. I have a 3500 watt inverter genny for home back up but its a PITA to run it every 1-2 months, oil changes, etc
Torque app and OBD reader can read the fuel level.
Tim, did you try having the trailer hooked up to the generator while towing? That way when you get to the camping spot the trailer is already cool. I thought that would drain the gas but this video proves is probably wouldn't.
No I didn't. In order to do that, I'd need to somehow attach the cord to the RV so it doesn't fall off on the ground. Not my trailer, so I can't do anything permanent to attach cable.
So you are only using 1 leg of the 240V plug. This is evident on the truck dash display where the wattage only shows a draw on the right gauge. One would think you could also plug something in to the 120 V plug that draws on the second gauge. You could run a coffee pot or other device off of an extension cord and it wouldn’t affect the 30A circuit draw. Is that correct? You could draw up to 3600 watts on the 30 amp plug and up to 15 amps on the 120 plug?
Do an all day test for us please! I’ll put 5 on it :)
Great video! I love the idea of on board power, now I just have to wait until Ram or GM puts that into their truck. I wonder what that kind of idling does to the engine though long term. Probably cant be that good for it? If a coffee maker cycles the gas engine that quickly, that can't be good also, need a bigger battery or something to run longer between cycles and just cycle less often.
No issues with the engine long term so far in the past 10 years we have had hybrids.
I idle my F150 up to 8 hrs a night when on the road working. No problems 6 yrs and running. Although mines a 5.4 L 1997 hahaha 😆!
Considering getting the F-150 XLT specifically for the powerboost capability. Thanks so much for this video. Do you happen to have the options and specs of your truck posted anywhere? Thanks.
Sure. It is on the website at the bottom of this post: pickuptrucktalk.com/2020/12/bought-2021-ford-f-150-powerboost/
Thanks for the video Tim I am torn between this truck and the Lightning!
The challenge for electric trucks is the significant range drop with load or towing. Range can drop by half or more with heavier loads/tows. Then add very cold or extremely hot climates, winds, uphill grades, and voila range anxiety to the max. Lastly, all that and try draining your Lighting battery further by plugging your rv into it. The Powerboost is arguably superior. Even better, having the Powerboost come with a 5 kWh or more battery (reduce generator run time).
Can you please give info on toy hauler you pulled. I got the standard towing, 11,000. Wondering how heavy it was to pull that toy hauler.
Good thing you got a power source. Was 95 degrees when we were there and shore power kept going out. Rattle snake in bathroom and we are out of here . Second worst campground ever
Yeah it’s not that great of a campground.
@@Pickuptrucktalk understatement , makes our state parks look good
I got that this was a 3.5L PB XLT with max tow package. What is the payload and with what options added please. I have been trying to figure out how to max payload with wanted options. Is it possible or probable that you can get anywhere near 2000 payload?
Does the average trailer need the 7.2kw or is the 2.4kw plenty for a trailer?
I like your videos. You seem like an average Joe like me.
Thanks!
Amps X volts = watts
Alright, so I dropped a comment on your next video before I watched this video asking about the pickup battery's Ah limits. After watching this video, however, I am concerned with the pickup running out of fuel while in generator mode. Is there a safety shut-off for the generator mode that leaves enough fuel in the tank to allow you to drive to a filling station or do you need to leave a small gas can in the box to ensure that you are not stranded at some boondocking site?
Yes, Ford says it will shut off the generator mode when the fuel gets low. My sense is around 50-100 miles of fuel left, it will kick off. I’m not sure of the exact number.
That's seriously impressive. I wonder if the 2.4kW inverter would be enough for a camper with a 15000btu AC unit?
I don't recall the math involved. But I think you can easily Google search the watts to kW needed for your specific AC unit. You also have to figure out the initial startup power needed vs the running power unless you have a soft start feature on your AC.
Constant fire up and shut down on oil that never warms up makes me wonder how harsh this would be on a truck used by the hardcore weekend warrior
Just got me a 2021 powerboost. I dont know about using it to run my RV or my home as the sales person said I can. I am to old school, I think I will continue to use my Champion generator. It is light weight that I can carry and it will run everything.
I think my problem is frying the trucks electrical.
You can't fry the truck. It will stop providing power if it gets too hot.
@@Pickuptrucktalk
You are most probably right. Its just me. There is so much on this truck that it is overwhelming for me. Young family members that checked it out cant believe everything it does.
I just found out the tail gate lowers on its own.
I had bought on a whim because my 2013 had broke down while on vacation, so I just bought this one and I was in a hurry to get back home, so the salesperson just went over the basics with me.
Hell it might even fly. I dont know😃
@@martindriver6026 I can confirm it doesn’t fly. LOL. It is quite the technology in the truck. You’ll get the hang of it.
Is sounds good until dad takes the truck to fish at the lake and the camper is left without power until he get back.
You should pop the hood if you plan to run it for long hours, this way it helps keep the temps down, and less radiator fan on time to save gas.
You know it turns itself off and on right?
@@Pickuptrucktalk I did watched the video, I know. But, incase you run it with more load it would save the engine and accessories if you let the heat out. Lifting the hood is free.
I noticed on the dash readout that you have 2x 3600W guages (an "A" and a "B") -- this adds to 7200, but does this mean can you only service 3500W max to a single 110VAC circuit (either A or B)?
that's a good question. Frankly, I never once plugged every outlet in and checked what the screen showed. I just used it as I would typically.
Great video. Does the 7.2kwh use all of that no matter what is being powered or does it limit how much is produced based on the demand?
I’m going to answer my question and say no it doesn’t require using that power…since I watched you video entirely now :)
I’ve got a truck choice between the 2.4 and 7.2 and just didn’t want to overkill with the 7.2 but it sounds like it’s good flexibility
Hey, I am looking for a powerboost for the same task, the problem is the payload of the F-150, what are the aspects of yours and payload? I need at least 1,800 to be able to tow an airstream with a dry tongue weight of 875, and loaded could be up to 1,095. How you can tow that one that is 745 tongue weight?
I think this one was 1,400 lbs. When I towed with it, we only had the family in the cab and we had like 100 lbs to spare.
Does that adapter actually switch 220 to 110? Was surprised to see that. I was shocked to see he didn’t melt down the camper electrics.
Yes, it drops one of the legs.
If I still had our Jayco I would DEF be trading in my 2018 Platinum for a 2021!! This really changes things for boondocking. Like you said, no more embarrassing loud generators! And you’ll never want for wattage.
Until you need to drive your truck and can't have power at camp when you do. Or worst the Ford reputation catches up with you and that truck is in the shop for a week. Then you are buying power or going without.
@@ernestjohnson1807 lmao. First, if I’m driving my truck while boondocking, I likely don’t need power for the time I’m away. Second, I currently own a 2018 F-150 Platinum (in case you missed that part) with the 3.5 EB and 5 Star E50 tune since new. Zero problems. My next truck will be another Ford. Try your hate on somebody else.
I don’t know why this is so special. So you run your $10,000 truck engine and your $8,000 battery bank to power your trailer AC and refrigeration plus a few LED Lights. When you could have purchased a 3500 kw inverter generator at Harbor Freight for $700.00. How does this even make any sense? Just an add for Ford.
In my view, inverter generator is louder and you have to make sure it starts plus have fuel and space for it. This is just much more convenient.
The truck keeps turning on because you have the ac set to 65 degrees. So in order to get and keep the trailer at that temp the truck will run alot.
That was the point. This was a worst cast scenario test.
Need to remember that using it to power camper will have an effect on oil life...it will need to be changed before the odometer reading that was set for the next oil change as oil life is determined by hours of engine run time...we just normally use mileage as the marker for service.
No the truck calculates the oil life based on the viscosity of the oil itself not the odometer. Miles no longer matter it actually tests the oil.
@@mototodd I never use the vehicle computer for determining oil changes...I use mileage. I know mileage works and I trust it...I don't trust the computer as I see how inaccurate the gas mileage computers can be as compared to miles/gallons calculations.
My favorite part is when he noticed the red 01 Chevy gaser 2500.
Great video. Thanks. Now, if someone wanted to add a bed cover to the truck and lock stuff inside would there be any easy way to route the power cable out of the bed without modification to the cover? In other words, is there any cable routing exit by the outlet panel, etc?
Did you ever find a way to do this? I was wondering about this myself.
Just found out about this, great vid. Does Ford have an app where you can remotely turn off the generator via your phone?
Yes.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Excellent. Definitely a great help when camping/RVing.
How did the truck do pulling that trailer?
Does your f150 have the max towing package? I'm going to tow an RV around that size and weight. Should I be worried?
Yes max tow. You need to check your trucks payload and towing limits. Get a weight distributing hitch as well. After that, it’s all about learning, experience and getting comfortable.
Can you drive and make power at the same time if needed?
Yes. The truck will ask you to confirm there is something plugged in, but after you hit ok, you can drive.
Hey Tim wondering if you had an answer to an odd question I had. Say something in the hybrid system failed ie the battery or motor. Could the truck still be driven as just a regular ecoboost f150 or will it not be drivable without the hybrid system working?
Hmm… not sure. I’d imagine the computer has a limp mode setting if the hybrid system fails.
Thanks for the quick response! Yeah we do a lot of extremely remote camping and stuff out here in Utah and love the idea of the inverter generator and technology for what we do. Just don't love the idea of having a hybrid system that I wouldn't know how to work on if something went wrong in the middle of nowhere. But I'm sure the engineers thought of this and at least made it so you could get home if the system failed.
Get a separate generator. This is a gimick that will leave your camper without power anytime you need to drive. Also if your truck goes down for any reason you are buying power or going witout until it's fixed. Save yourself from future problems.
How much energy could you use without using the engine running ?
How did plugging the camper into 220v not damage anything? Does the adapter only use one leg of the power (3600w)?
Yes, only one leg, he has another video detailing this.
Man oh man Tim,,, this truck seems to fit right into your lifestyle.. Towing, powering up the camper, I don’t know how the hell you can trade this in??? But I have an idea, trade in your wife’s vehicle, give her the F-150 and get yourself a different truck for the channel…. That way you still have this little gem in your family. AND you can continue to report on the F-150 as the miles pile up.. You would have a two YES two truck channel…. Can you imagine that??? Do it Tim, just do it…..
Someday the channel will be big enough to support two trucks. The other, real challenge, is putting miles on both trucks as well as all the other vehicles I drive all the time.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Good problem to have Tim.. Keep up the great work.
Can you do this with a prius and a tiny trailer that it can pull?
Theoretically you could if the Prius has a plug. Sorry, I haven’t driven a Prius in about 8 years and don’t recall the hook ups.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Thanks so much for taking the time to respond! Love your channel!!!!
I bought the 30 amp adapter and when I plugged it into my camper I got a grounding default message. Did you ever run into this issue? I looked on the F154 on and there are multiple people that have had this issue.
Never had this issue, sorry.
I just want to point out your amp math. It is correct BUT it's only correct when you are using a 120v system. Like house power. If you go to a 12v system it will be 12v per amp or a 220v system it will be 220w per amp. It's called ohm's law. I would recommend checking it out instead of always using the 120w per amp calculation. Basically Voltage = current (amps) x resistance. So with a little algebra you can calculate it to watts= Amps x Volts.
A typical gas generator and most likely the F150 can produce about 10 kW-h of energy per gallon of gas. 1,700 watts or 1.7kW for 2 hours is 3.4 kW-h. That is the equivalent of 1/3 gallon of gasoline. My guess is that you burned around 1/3 gallon for 2 hours. Or 1/6 gallon per hour. Or 6 hours per gallon. with a 30 gallon tank it should run 180 hours but that assumes AC on all the time. Most likely AC is off 50% of the time. That should handle you for a week of camping. By the way, I believe the Powerboost is a much better option than the Lightning.
My next truck…
can you get this truck with the 7.2 gen and a 36 gallon tank ?
Nope.
Engine running 5-10 times an hour at
Sure, but larger battery = more weight = less payload = less overall towing. Happy medium.
@@Pickuptrucktalk What type of battery does it have NMC or LFP? My only concern is the charge discharge cylces on the battery. I assume they are smart and cycle the battery only to 80% but LFP would handle that cycling much better than NMC. Is there an options to just run the engine straight to not cycle the battery and starter when you have larger consistent loads? Great to have auto mode like shown for intermittent/light loads, but also nice to not wear out the battery and starter for larger loads...
@@oof_Dad From Ford: "1.5 kWh lithium-ion battery and a 41-horsepower motor."
@@Pickuptrucktalk Ya I did some Googling around and have not found the exact chemistry (NMC and LFP are the most common Lithium Ion chemistries but there are others also). LFP is slightly heavier than NMC but have 3-4 times the cycle life.
Did this one have a tow package or standard package?
Tow package.
These tests should be done in half tank. Full tank tends to have better mpgs for some reason.