But why? You get the worst of both worlds. You don’t get the awesome CRT and you have to still deal with the giant size of it. If you want a crt get a crt but if you want an oled get a thin nice oled.
I ordered the number pad in the Nintendo inspired version and I absolutely love it! I work on spreadsheets a good bit but like you said, just having that lone calculator function is great and gets used often.
I’m doing the same thing here, except I’m actually using vintage equipment, a compaq mouse with no scroller wheel, a Windows 95 keyboard, a pair of speakers, and a Sony trinitron monitor, all beige tech. The only non vintage thing would be the tower because it’s custom built and runs on Windows 11.
I actually thought about it but I realized I really like everything wireless on the desk. Also this video was not sponsored by 8BitDo, I actually pre ordered this keyboard a few months ago because I thought it looked cool lol.
1:47 That is the C64 edition, a tribute to the Commodore 64, which was a home computer, not a console. Yes, a lot of people bought them for games, but they did a lot more than that.
Another way to improve this set up, get Linux and XFCE, then install the "Chicago95" theme. A pixel perfect complete make over of a Linux desktop to look exactly like Windows 95. I always laugh when I am playing some modern game and I stop it and I am greeted with Windows 95's lovely background and icon set. Can Win95 run Doom 2016? With Chicago95 you can.
The IBM Model M this keyboard/numpad combo is styled after is from 1984, designed for high-wear office use. Home computer keyboards of the 90s were generally much worse, due to value engineering. The average household had a Compaq rubber dome 104-key with single-color ABS, stamped keycaps. Mac users had it better, as many Apple keyboards still used discrete Alps switches.
@@stephen_b Nope, I'm just a computer history enthusiast with a technical writing background. I'm the kind of writer/editor OpenAI steals from to generate their syntactically-correct, fact-free slop.
This is absolutely amazing and has inspired me to transform my office. Any update coming on this setup? 90s inspired decor, going with any retro themed speakers?
This is the vibe I am going for with my setup. I got this keyboard and number pad a few weeks ago, and I will likely buy some of these other items for my setup. The number not working as a macro pad is mad frustrating, however. I am trying to decide if I would replace my mx master for that mouse to complete the look.
Popped into my recommended feed... and I get why. I do love that mouse, and am considering it for my beige sleeper PC build (with CRT battlestation, because, yeah, retrogeek) that is deep in progress currently. I have nothing that I would consider using with that system that isn't either disappointing or black (even my damn trackball mouse is black). That is EXACTLY what I was looking for - so, um, thanks. And if I didn't have a num-pad for that system I would so embrace it. I love the Model M touch and feel - but my holy grail is the Apple Extended II from the very early 90s; the adapters are weird - and were very expensive for a bit - but it has a very pleasing clickity-clackity that doesn't keep everyone awake across the house... Cool stuff, I'll keep checking in with your channel.
I use the Lofree at my job (with one of the Epomaker keyboards with the little monitor-style screens on it), and you are correct, the mouse is too small to be truly comfortable. The style is great, the buttons are nice enough, but it causes my hand to cramp as the day goes on. If they ever introduce a larger one, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I also have that 8BitDo keyboard in the Commodore style at my home desk. It's really pleasant to use, as is the NumPad.
I recognized the 8bitdo keyboard from the intro and got really hyped about the video. Then you said lofree and I freaked out 😅 Both of those have been on my wish list for a while. I don't have an apple watch but I really liked the dock! Love your videos, this might be my favorite! Keep up the good work! (sorry if my English aren't that good)
a little confused, the mouse and keyboard are more 80's inspired than 90's inspired. the 90's was MS dos 3.1. the 80's was the age of commodore 64, IBM, and the texas instruments computers.
nice review! can you kindly tell me if the buttons mapping is saved within the devices? any installation to my office laptop is restricted by the IT department (need admin pass etc). so I plan to map the buttons on my own laptop, then bring the keyboard and dualbuttons to office laptop. (i've done this method with my razer macro mouse).
Shoot let me know if you wanna borrow my model F keyboard remake. Different from the Model M since there’s no membrane, it’s direct paddle on circuit board action 😫👌
I considered getting the number pad / calculator. They are very useful for CAD software, but the fact that this does not have a "send" function to send the result to the computer is a deal breaker for me.
Looks very nice indeed! Except I don’t really spot a CRT (OK given that CRT TVs and PVM/BVMs are now very expensive and don’t fit on many modern desks.
LED refers to the backlighting, and LCD refers to the panel that produces color. Basically any and all modern displays that aren't an OLED are both an LED and an LCD. There was a time when LEDs were new to the scene for LCD backlighting, so having LED backlighting was something worth advertising.
I have a really specific question (its not but, honestly you'd know) .. (dont have to answer btw) i was using 2 desks to make an L shape, one a cheap drafting table, and the other, a 350 pound goliath from the 90s that is stronger than a bus. That desk had my PC on it, but i got a large glass L shaped desk... glass... meaning PC can't... be on it (hefty fugger') ... but its just tall enough that under the desk (on a platform) it wouldn't fit.... i'm at a damn loss... idk what my question even is at this point damn. "Interior crocodile alligator, i am an office decorator." -Faye⚓
Three options as far as I can see. 1. Get longer cables for the monitor and go wireless for your mouse and keyboard and put the computer beside the desk instead of under. 2. Get a new computer, maybe mini atx or an actual mini desktop they sell. Those tiny cubes lol. 3. Measure things and buy a practical desk that you know will work before buying it. Plenty of L shaped ones have computer bays or at least have room to have the pc on the floor under it. Or an actual computer desk and have another table perpendicular for whatever you needed the L part for.
@lord_haven1114 Thank you for the reply! ⚓ the new computer is an absolute need, but I have figured out a temporary until it isn't solution. Which is to put this giant PC on this IKEA table which is the same size as it and sturdy. I have fit my entire couch with inches to spare as a result and it's great. I still need to upgrade literally the everything though. Was better than shattering a perfectly good glass desk 😂 -Faye ⚓
Totally off topic for the video content. But. I have been wondering: are you related to John Moe (from the podcast Wits)? From your excellent scripts and great setup for filming I feel like it’s talent that runs in the family. Your voice too, very similar. I listened to his podcast Wits from day one and it is still one of my favorites.
Yeah I agree with you on the size issue. I mention it in the video, but the mouse has some great features, but the product is far from perfect due to ergonomics and some software quirks on the circuit board within the mouse. Hopefully they follow it up with a more feature rich model.
I highly recommend you turn down the music and maybe invest into a better microphone, just some constructive criticism, other than that great video man im really interested in this keyboard although its not very customisable
"gimick" is a silly word... it's a useful feature that's nice to have but typically wouldn't make or break a product's value. Will everyone find it useful? No, but not everyone will find my trackball useful either... but with my desk space and wrist problems, I do.
Everything is great… but the mouse 😅 that mouse has no 90’s design philosophy ingrained in it. Should not have a scroll wheel and the bottom should be a ball inside
Yeah. I was counting on the macro functionality of the 8bitdo numpad, too. I have 3 colorways. And no a single macro. :( I had to get another numpads for macroing. That's a sh@me. Though the keyboard is cool, anyways.
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nothing screams retro tech like a mouse wearing a keyboard as a skinsuit
Glad I'm not the only one who appreciates this 80s/90s aesthetic.
I really miss the 90's aesthetic, for the most part.
pairing this with a sleeper PC build would look awesome
sorry this is way too low effort for this
didnt even bother skinning windows
Okay, I would totally mount the big buttons under my desk to switch between audio sources or desk light configs.
Dang I did not think of that.. that actually sounds useful 🤔
All that is left is to fit an OLED monitor into a CRT like frame.
I want that so bad
I’ve been thinking about a way to do it basically I just wanna way to clip the crt frame to a regular monitor
But why? You get the worst of both worlds. You don’t get the awesome CRT and you have to still deal with the giant size of it. If you want a crt get a crt but if you want an oled get a thin nice oled.
@@lord_haven1114 why? cause it looks cool. and yeah you dont get that crt black but you get really close. why are you so bitter?
And a retro PC case, and a retro inspired OS.
I hated beige in the 90's because it was so common, and I really wanted black color. Now, PCs are usually all black, and I kinda miss the beige again.
I use the super buttons as foot pedals for streaming! it was just about the only practical use I found for them.
I ordered the number pad in the Nintendo inspired version and I absolutely love it! I work on spreadsheets a good bit but like you said, just having that lone calculator function is great and gets used often.
I’m doing the same thing here, except I’m actually using vintage equipment, a compaq mouse with no scroller wheel, a Windows 95 keyboard, a pair of speakers, and a Sony trinitron monitor, all beige tech. The only non vintage thing would be the tower because it’s custom built and runs on Windows 11.
Man, that 90s 42" OLED is on point.
You can just buy a new Model M. They are still made. Granted it's unlikely they would sponsor you them for free.
I actually thought about it but I realized I really like everything wireless on the desk. Also this video was not sponsored by 8BitDo, I actually pre ordered this keyboard a few months ago because I thought it looked cool lol.
@@WorkFromHype Fair enough. Your right I was assuming based on the timing. They seem to be giving away a gazillion of them at the moment.
1:47 That is the C64 edition, a tribute to the Commodore 64, which was a home computer, not a console. Yes, a lot of people bought them for games, but they did a lot more than that.
Another way to improve this set up, get Linux and XFCE, then install the "Chicago95" theme. A pixel perfect complete make over of a Linux desktop to look exactly like Windows 95. I always laugh when I am playing some modern game and I stop it and I am greeted with Windows 95's lovely background and icon set. Can Win95 run Doom 2016? With Chicago95 you can.
The IBM Model M this keyboard/numpad combo is styled after is from 1984, designed for high-wear office use. Home computer keyboards of the 90s were generally much worse, due to value engineering. The average household had a Compaq rubber dome 104-key with single-color ABS, stamped keycaps. Mac users had it better, as many Apple keyboards still used discrete Alps switches.
Thanks, ChatGPT!
@@stephen_b Nope, I'm just a computer history enthusiast with a technical writing background. I'm the kind of writer/editor OpenAI steals from to generate their syntactically-correct, fact-free slop.
@@Jergling haha I was joking but that's cool. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
This is absolutely amazing and has inspired me to transform my office. Any update coming on this setup? 90s inspired decor, going with any retro themed speakers?
How hard would it be to find similar things but wired instead?
Evertime he says “The 90s” take a drink
This is the vibe I am going for with my setup. I got this keyboard and number pad a few weeks ago, and I will likely buy some of these other items for my setup. The number not working as a macro pad is mad frustrating, however. I am trying to decide if I would replace my mx master for that mouse to complete the look.
I just got rhe C63 version of the keyboard, and I swapped the switches out for Epomaker Zebras... Amazing!
Are those large A / B buttons sturdy enough to be used as foot switches? I feel like that would be a useful addition to my gaming setup.
Popped into my recommended feed... and I get why.
I do love that mouse, and am considering it for my beige sleeper PC build (with CRT battlestation, because, yeah, retrogeek) that is deep in progress currently. I have nothing that I would consider using with that system that isn't either disappointing or black (even my damn trackball mouse is black). That is EXACTLY what I was looking for - so, um, thanks.
And if I didn't have a num-pad for that system I would so embrace it. I love the Model M touch and feel - but my holy grail is the Apple Extended II from the very early 90s; the adapters are weird - and were very expensive for a bit - but it has a very pleasing clickity-clackity that doesn't keep everyone awake across the house...
Cool stuff, I'll keep checking in with your channel.
I love 8bitdo
I use the Lofree at my job (with one of the Epomaker keyboards with the little monitor-style screens on it), and you are correct, the mouse is too small to be truly comfortable. The style is great, the buttons are nice enough, but it causes my hand to cramp as the day goes on.
If they ever introduce a larger one, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
I also have that 8BitDo keyboard in the Commodore style at my home desk. It's really pleasant to use, as is the NumPad.
I recognized the 8bitdo keyboard from the intro and got really hyped about the video. Then you said lofree and I freaked out 😅 Both of those have been on my wish list for a while. I don't have an apple watch but I really liked the dock! Love your videos, this might be my favorite! Keep up the good work!
(sorry if my English aren't that good)
I like how this doesnt really resemble a 90s setup even in aesthetic
This. The irony is that you can probably still get authentic 2000's stuff today.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that.
@@esparda07 you can. Its in the thrift stores for like $10.
a little confused, the mouse and keyboard are more 80's inspired than 90's inspired. the 90's was MS dos 3.1. the 80's was the age of commodore 64, IBM, and the texas instruments computers.
And he called the Commodore 64 version of the keyboard "gaming console" inspired. Safe to say he doesn't really know what hes talking about.
nice review! can you kindly tell me if the buttons mapping is saved within the devices? any installation to my office laptop is restricted by the IT department (need admin pass etc). so I plan to map the buttons on my own laptop, then bring the keyboard and dualbuttons to office laptop. (i've done this method with my razer macro mouse).
Shoot let me know if you wanna borrow my model F keyboard remake. Different from the Model M since there’s no membrane, it’s direct paddle on circuit board action 😫👌
I love my Model F. Absolutely unique from the Model M, although that'd be for an '80s video rather than '90s.
New Model F project? I have a couple along with an original Model F AT
Thisguy's desk is worht more than my house 🤣 this looks great! as a '95 guy, I approve it!
Cidoo also make retro color ways for their keyboards
now do a 2000s setup with modern tech
I considered getting the number pad / calculator. They are very useful for CAD software, but the fact that this does not have a "send" function to send the result to the computer is a deal breaker for me.
That clock is sleek!
we need a beige monitor bezel kit!
Saw your 3 slot mat on the web site. Do you have the exact measurements?
could setup up an landline to bluetooth with your phone and get like big ceo phone that has tons of buttons or any 90s line would work too
Yesss i love this
excellent video, thank you
Your missing a crt monitor BTW and make a sleeper pc with a 90s pc lol
You know what you should do? 3d print a bege monitor frame to look like a CRT.
This is fantastic! I think I might have to pick up that keyboard!
6:50 heh nice
Where’s the crt ?
In the other room with my N64 hooked up lol. I couldn't give up my OLED monitor, I've become too attached to it.
@@WorkFromHype Modern tech should go back to beige instead of everything black for desktop
Maaaan! You have to check Retron Print!
this company casually just made a much better mouse than anyone ever...
Ah yes, the retro setup to play Space Marine 2.
Looks very nice indeed! Except I don’t really spot a CRT (OK given that CRT TVs and PVM/BVMs are now very expensive and don’t fit on many modern desks.
The additional two big buttons could be the cat keyboard 😺
I have the mouse .
Love it .
Wish it had faster refresh rate and the side buttons need work the feel is horrible .
the clock does not have an "LCD display". it is clearly an LED display and says so on the amazon page. words mean things!
LED refers to the backlighting, and LCD refers to the panel that produces color. Basically any and all modern displays that aren't an OLED are both an LED and an LCD. There was a time when LEDs were new to the scene for LCD backlighting, so having LED backlighting was something worth advertising.
go for crt for 90's
I have a really specific question (its not but, honestly you'd know) .. (dont have to answer btw) i was using 2 desks to make an L shape, one a cheap drafting table, and the other, a 350 pound goliath from the 90s that is stronger than a bus. That desk had my PC on it, but i got a large glass L shaped desk... glass... meaning PC can't... be on it (hefty fugger') ... but its just tall enough that under the desk (on a platform) it wouldn't fit.... i'm at a damn loss... idk what my question even is at this point damn.
"Interior crocodile alligator, i am an office decorator." -Faye⚓
Three options as far as I can see. 1. Get longer cables for the monitor and go wireless for your mouse and keyboard and put the computer beside the desk instead of under.
2. Get a new computer, maybe mini atx or an actual mini desktop they sell. Those tiny cubes lol.
3. Measure things and buy a practical desk that you know will work before buying it. Plenty of L shaped ones have computer bays or at least have room to have the pc on the floor under it. Or an actual computer desk and have another table perpendicular for whatever you needed the L part for.
@lord_haven1114 Thank you for the reply! ⚓ the new computer is an absolute need, but I have figured out a temporary until it isn't solution. Which is to put this giant PC on this IKEA table which is the same size as it and sturdy. I have fit my entire couch with inches to spare as a result and it's great. I still need to upgrade literally the everything though. Was better than shattering a perfectly good glass desk 😂 -Faye ⚓
@@FayeHunterlol well I’m really glad you figured out a solution! Enjoy your setup 😊
How's the mouse versus mx master 3?
nice stuff!
actually Atari ST and Amigas were FAR more popular than PCs in the early to mid 90s. Especially before the internet when we were calling BBS's.
Missing some headphones or speakers! Awesome video
I absolutely like the 8bit keyboard regarding style etc.. But - they don't have ISO layout, so it does not really work for me :(
Totally off topic for the video content. But. I have been wondering: are you related to John Moe (from the podcast Wits)? From your excellent scripts and great setup for filming I feel like it’s talent that runs in the family. Your voice too, very similar. I listened to his podcast Wits from day one and it is still one of my favorites.
That Lofree Mouse is not that good TBH and its small, like travel sized mouse small. Not recommended for gaming or people with large hands
Yeah I agree with you on the size issue. I mention it in the video, but the mouse has some great features, but the product is far from perfect due to ergonomics and some software quirks on the circuit board within the mouse. Hopefully they follow it up with a more feature rich model.
90s mouse? Logitech Pilot mouse was THE mouse. The Nokia 3310 before Nokia got to making its brick.
This doesn’t look anything like a 90s desk setup. I mean I guess the colour is right, but nothing else is.
Now you just need to stop using WASD, and convert back to EDSF like a true 90's PC gamer...
I highly recommend you turn down the music and maybe invest into a better microphone, just some constructive criticism, other than that great video man im really interested in this keyboard although its not very customisable
The desk clock and the numpad were the best.
>It's 90s because it's beige and grey
What is the battery life on the keyboard like? Many on Amazon say its good, but without specifying if it lasts for a few days or a few weeks.
It lasts for 200 hours with 4hrs of charging.
That mouse upside down in the thumbnail though...
Steelseries had a display on one of their lines of mice and no one liked it so no one did it anymore. (or that's my understanding)
I wish that mouse isn’t that expensive
Since when was a C64 a games console?
Noice
"gimick" is a silly word... it's a useful feature that's nice to have but typically wouldn't make or break a product's value. Will everyone find it useful? No, but not everyone will find my trackball useful either... but with my desk space and wrist problems, I do.
Looks more 80’s. Late 90’s was more white and gray.
Nah, if you want truly replica of model m with modern twist (removable switches), get the vortex model m series.
80085? 😂
I knew someone else would have seen it, but I had to scroll for a while before I found this comment
6:35 666 😵
Just label those buttons TURBO & RESET
Everything is great… but the mouse 😅 that mouse has no 90’s design philosophy ingrained in it. Should not have a scroll wheel and the bottom should be a ball inside
Awesome setup and review. but the mouse looks so uncomfortable and I can't imagine working with it for more than 1 hour.. Horrible ergonomics.
RGB or nothing.
80085
…all of this looks like the 80s. Not the 90s.
4:50 Skip ad
>adding the kiche ass desk toys
whhhhhhy
cant believe i gave this ad a view fuck me
Number pad is on the wrong side...
no you didnt. you bought a bunch of shit
Yeah.
I was counting
on the macro functionality
of the 8bitdo numpad, too.
I have 3 colorways.
And no a single macro. :(
I had to get another numpads
for macroing.
That's a sh@me.
Though the keyboard is cool,
anyways.
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Lol a model m without a num pad and that mouse is way too chunky.
This is a bad video with bad ideas
Hurhur 80085