The TRUTH About Training To Failure 🤯
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I've been training to failure my whole life. I remember the first time I skipped school and got an F.
Same happened to me, I remember that first year of middle school I didn’t skip school like u did but I was playing video games and avoided doing homework/classwork and studying for tests and quizzes and got a D- in 6th grade math which is technically close to failure 😂
Couldn’t agree more with this. Many people say they train to failure, but actually have never been to true failure.
They only fail
That’s right but there’s many interesting ways to bring them to true F like going partials for as many reps possible and pushing them doing more the next time, or holding isometric for as long as possible and pushing them holding longer the next time. Basically, going (progressively) HTLT!
I mean just add more weight and people fold like an omelette.
@@busbear6899 yeah, that's the case for literally everyone who's training close enough to their 1RM or already fatigued enough - what exactly is it that you're trying to say??
As a novice I'm glad I know what if feels like I went up in weight on bench I hit fialure on the first set of 5😂 that happened twice last week and I felt so fucked I was fighting for my life to get it up and I feel like shit since and binged last night cus of the fatigue 😂
Training to failure is the only way I know when the set is done.
Training to failure is good, ONLY if you are going to get enough recovery time.
The problem is that if you're injured like me, training to failure it's f*cking hard. It's always a risk of injury (again). I don't know what failure is anymore since my shoulder injury tbh. The line between failure and injury is so damn thin.
Additional comment: some say if you are injured you are not supossed to train at all, cause you have to recover first. And I agree, but in my specific case, the rest face is over. I did rehab and all that stuff for one entire year, and I still do it.
Not true. Train to failure with good form.
@@SomeWhiteGuy_ Impossible for me at least. When I try to train to failure I experience fear. Not joking.
@@JuanCruzFabi I feel you. Try failure with high high reps my man. Like 20-30 reps. It’s hard. You can do it. Don’t put limitations on yourself brother. Happy new year 🎆
@@SomeWhiteGuy_ Thanks for the kind words, friend! Keep grinding and happy new year to you too.
My older brother wonders why I have bigger and more defined muscles than him while he’s been working out longer than me and lifts heavier. I told him to work out like regular and I’d watch him. I saw that he picked heavy weight for example something like 100 pound curl bar or a 250 pound leg extension, he would then use momentum to help him lift the weight and would let gravity drop it back down he would do this multiple times and call them reps. This may feed your ego but it’s defiantly not ideal and it’s not working the muscles optimally at all to grow them. I told him if he wants to see improvement he has to lower the weight drastically. I told him nobody cares about what you can lift with bad form. So for example on leg extensions I had him drop from 250 pounds where he would use momentum to help him lift it and had only partial range of motion to 130 pounds. I had him make sure to firmly plant his whole body down to isolate the quads and active them until you feel a squeeze and they tighten, then control the weight very slowly on the way down with a lock and squeeze at the bottom then explosively push the weigh up until it’s locked fully and squeeze again at the top the reps should move smoothly into on another and after only 6 reps he started to really feel it, he kept pushing them out with good form until he reached 14 reps, then he had a 10second break before another 4 reps, he had another 10second break while I dropped the weight down to 70 pounds, he then repeated the motion with this weight until failure, he said it was the hardest set he ever had, I think ego effects people to much and they refuse to use light weights like 70 pounds leg extensions but it’s sets like that that build large legs not using momentum to swing a heavy weight up
Ego definitely does play a role a lot. Many people go to the gym and see guys in there moving all sorts of heavy weights and don't want to seem weak so they just pack on the weight and use all sorts of crazy momentum to throw the weights around. Great way to get hurt is all that is.
I see the same people in the gym for months, and they don't look any different than they did 6, 8 months ago.
Was your bro able to walk the next day? 🤣
Great advice.
I would also like to add, that by following this advice you gradually raise your standards about what true failure is.
Is like as time goes by and you keep working hard you acquire the ability to "dive" deeper and deeper into failure.
training to failure will always give great results. its important to take adequate rest periods too like Mike Mentzer used to say when he was alive.
So true. My lifting partner and I push one another to failure. Also, as you have always said, get a nice controlled movement with a pause. This will get you to failure for sure.
I've done DB benches where my tricep failed and one time clocked myself in the face 😭🤣
A little context: I got injured and pinched my c7 (group of nerves that control pec, lat, and triceps.) When I got back into the gym my triceps especially was incredibly weak and gave out before my chest did.
I’m there now!
Tore both my triceps off the elbow. There sooooooo weak!
@@Buddy330 is there ways to avoid this so this wont happen to me?
@@fire-ue3du Use lighter weights and keep the form in check and if you are/were injured, just take it easy for a few days.
But keep in mind that injuries do happen (minor or major) and are unavoidable if you train hard (and sometimes due to other things outside the gym). Don't let that stop you, keep up the grind.
@@halfrave thanks for the advice bro i just gotten into the gym yesterday
Always giving good advice thank you for all of this man. Keep up your good work!
This day in age where you hear a lot of people talking about training short of failure mr. Tell it like it is gives us the truth. I've always trained to failure
Regardless of whether reps until failure actually improves your gains or not, I absolutely believe that a person should experience the failure every now and again just for the emotional and psychological aspect. It helps build up one's resilience and perseverance. It develops inner strength.
Going to failure has benefits, but plateaus come very quickly. It’s not a good idea to train to failure very often. Especially when form gets compromised. THAT should be considered failure. My $.02.
98% of people have no idea what training to true failure is, the pussed out way before it
Natural bodybuilders who train 3 to 4 times a week, 6 exercises of 3 sets with 8 to 12 reps cannot recover from this. It will drive you into the ground. Drug enhanced BB can do it.
When the form is compromised you have reached failure
Cramps, vomiting, shaking and crying for my mom - that's where the gains are at 🙂
If you can't get it up = failure
This is good advice
Do not lift to failure on every set.
"Tips on how to train to failure without a spotter"
Arnold once said, "you haven't had a good workout until you have puked and done 2 more sets."
Yeah thats just nonsense. Lol
@@carlodonn8983 criticizing the oak? 🤡
Thx
I've been to that point, but I prefer the technical failure where you can't complete the rep w correct form. As soon as my form fails, I stop counting. I'd rather rest and finish the set w perfect form to target the weakest muscles in the movement pattern.
I train close to failure but I do full body and only 1 to 2 sets. I cant burn myself out like you. My job requires heavy lifting so I get a decent workout while at work too
Jonni isn't even telling people to train to failure all the time - he's telling people to do it a bunch so they learn what it FEELS like and adjust their workload accordingly.
Everyone wants to shout off the top of buildings that they train to failure, but not many natural lifters can truly train to failure on compounds every workout and properly recover from it. Even those who can, I doubt it's optimal. Juiced is a different story, but that's not something I know much about, or care much about.
I remember when I was in the army we trained to failure alot..
Doing military press with nothing in your hands and you still couldn't lift them up or push ups pushing as hard as you could and not even moving....that's true failure
But if you follow the research and listen to the god of exercise science Brad shoenfield (I think that spelling is right) 1-2 reps short of failure is just as effective if not more so (for strength) than going to failure in multiple studies!!
I used to train to failure but now I stop a few reps short
he's only saying that most people dont know where failure is, so stopping 2 reps short is probably 5 reps short
So many beginners don’t go to failure and never experience it because all this RIR and accumulated systemic fatigue information going around. It’s sad they constantly leave 3-6 reps in reserve because they want to save energy for a different yet redundant movement
Question. Does training to failure allow for micro breaks like 5-10 seconds to steady yourself and then get back to busting out reps?
I find when I have a micro break during a set it allows me to push put more reps but usually I get to that point where either grips giving or muscles burning and I either need a micro break or to call my set there
Good question, I've done this myself and asked myself if that counts lol
True
Great advice. How much blood can you get into the target muscle… failure means maximum blood 🩸 into the muscle.
I would love to train to failure, but I've have 3 strokes and a brain hemorrhage in the last 18 years. When I go to failure I honestly start to get scared my brain is going to hemorrhage again. So I go 1 rep less than failure and no longer go less than 15 reps . I was one of those guys that would stay in the 8-12 rep for the last 20 years.
Of course I know what failure is, I'm that.
*eccentrically, not "essentially"
I do the failure at the second rep 😎
Can I do this for 1 set for every exercise if not then how often should I train to failure?
so if im doing 2 sets till failure should i increase the weight after my first set or keep it the same
Absolutely, always go to failure or beyond like any where from 0-2 reps in reserve which is mechanical tension
Lol just consider the next day cause your not going to be able to use that muscle much the next day
I don’t think everybody is capable of training till failure, back in my previous life I used to love doing sprints on my bike. But I would do an aerobic work capacity training, which is one minute . “HAM” 15 to 20 second full sprint. Everything you got then sit down and tried to hold that amount of power for the whole minute. I remember a couple of times crashing on the grass in my legs physically stopped working. I saw God on those days. Lol training partner could not hit the same intensity no matter how hard he tried.
Is it good for beginners though ? Like
Yes. Newbies don't really know what actual failure is. So they should pretty much always go there until they understand what it means to get close to it. Until then, go straight to actual failure.
If anyone wants to know true failure and what it feels like just get your max, do 1 rep with that then keep going down by 2.5 or 5 depending on what the exercise allows you to go to, make sure on each weight you go to failure with that weight as well, keep going down until you reach the lowest possible weight, the 5’s on a dumbbell for example should feel like you can’t even do another rep with them anymore, make sure to not have any rest between each different weight, now that is true failure.
that is exhaustion not failure.
You're depleted, which isnt a bad thing if you can recover.
If you don't go for that last rep you'll never really know if you could have done it or not until you have experience and can actually access your RPE.
Also it's a mental challenge : "how much can I push myself with good form?".
If I leave 1 or 2 reps in the tank I feel like I'm training half ass and I don't have fun
Idk it feels like now I build up lactic acid so easily I can mentally still push out more reps and deal with the pain but physically my limbs don't allow me to move the weight past a certain range of motion after however many reps. So I just let the weight sit there in exertion
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I do this but it doesn't hurt while doing it and I'm never sore the days after. I workout out very hard for 8 months and barely failed a few lbs of muscle
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Alot just fail
How long should one rest between these true failure sets? 3-5 minutes is what I do.
For me it depends on the exercice. On a big compound movement like a squat I'll take 3-4 min (I don't even count it, I just go when I feel ready), and on a small isolation exercice like a lateral raise it will be more like 1-2 min
It's depends on the load. The heavier the load, the longer rest you'll need.
Age also plays a big factor in this as younger people typically won't need as much rest.
What about i am the failure🤔
Hmmmmm
I would say that for nattys only train to failure on one set and not even every training session. It put too much stress on your CNS to recover.
Central Nervous System?
@@coolgainz9307 yes
Agreed. I focus on controlled, full range of motion reps.
@@Gokutrump Ok 👍🏾
unless its a warm up, every set is to failure. i shoot for 15 reps but i dont stop at 15 if i can squeeze out 16 or 17. go up in weight and shoot for 15 again but probably die at 14. go up again get 10-12.
i dont CHOOSE to stop. i cannot continue.