Reacting To Women On Steroids w/ Dr. Mike Israetel
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ม.ค. 2024
- Join us for an enlightening discussion as we dive into the controversial topic of whether Women should use steroids or not? And what happens if they do... with none other than Dr. Mike Israetel! 🤔💉
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I always wondered who thought pro bodybuilder women look attractive. Now I know it's dr. Mike.
Years ago at the Arnold, I saw some gals I thought were hot in their pics. Big nope...
30-40 years ago they were hot
@@Ease54 - Same here. In person it's a totally different person.
yeah I know a girl who used to be quite pretty and had great genetics for lifting after a couple of years she started using roids. I saw her last week after like two years we talked a little but I literally almost vomited seen her like that lol
I dated a lady on roids
And I do like the look
What I dont like is the smell (male like)
And what a shock going down it actually looked like a tiny cock even the end looked like a bell end lol I love the muscle esp arse and legs just not sure it's worth the pitfalls: (
Jonni just sitting there letting Mike get himself into trouble.
The wise man knows when to stay quiet 😂
Jonni just sitting there and trying to control his side-eye😂😂😂
Johnny, sweet Johnny, sweet little innocent Johnny saying all the right things, because he's really just emasculated... Does he DATE guys?
he just needs to hear Mike’s opinion so he can repeat after him paraphrasing. Jonni talking in the end of the video is the most useless part
Mike is a NEANDRATHAL CLOWN
When he touched him I was like “oh, this is not going in the right direction”
Dr Mike is really educating us while cracking inappropriate jokes, and i'm all here for it.
😂😂😂😂 shit was funny AF
He killed me with the “you’re black so you have nice skin, I’m Jewish so my skin is an abomination” 😂😂
That's the best part😊😂😂😊
They are no Jokes :D
He just exposed the reality of it
Mike is a man who has come to terms with things other people can't handle lol
The dangers of wanting man butt after spending most of your life looking at other men
I love how extremely non-judgemental Mike is in this. Just putting out info, being positive.
Yes i cant even go into a gym but i love learning new things and i like that he is just really honest, thats amazing.
@@michaw.2168 I hope it’s not any physical hindrance if it is hope you can get in there and it’s something you can heal from 🤲 . With that said Dr.Mike is hilarious and informative
Mike's oversharing is always awesome and hilarious.
Goddamn Jonni nailed the voice, now tell me you've not been practicing.
Lmaoo seriously he nailed it he’s definitely practiced 😂
😂😂
When you do something too well...
I feel sorry for someone like Caroline, who is beautiful and feminine ❤❤❤, yet she sounds like Vin Deisel 😮
I think it's his Greg voice too.....
mike is just a mood....he always gets me cracking up
You're always in a mood to cheat on your wife?
@@noahtheg451 yes
@@noahtheg451 You mean when he specifically said "I'm married but if I wasn't" in what he was saying? Doesn't seem like a guy willing to cheat, but ya know, some of us are capable of critical thinking and some aren't.
U sound like a doormat
@@noahtheg451
Haha, yes exactly! Some of us are capable of critical thinking and some aren't.@@terrys.2342
Mike likes a woman who sounds like Sylvester Stallone whispering in his ear 😂
EyyyyeEeeyyee yuh.
Ayoooo😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣 bro that's fuked
Aye dree Yen
You say thst like it's weird.
What I notice with women and (long term) steroid use is it seems to age them incredibly, in addition to cutting fat excessively, making them look dry and shrively. It is the elephant in the room to me. If that's what someone wants to do, I get it. I personally think men and women look better with a little more fat than those who are cutting the most. Regardless of your gender, being on the extreme ends of lean has got to really mess up your hormones; you probably don't feel that good in addition to not looking your best.
So true folks.. those last 15 lbs to cut are for instagram models
Not just women age faster on steroids, men on steroids also look significantly older.
Steroids age everyone faster. About your last point, on the cuts, competitors feel like shit A LOT. Your body hates what you are doing, and is fighting against dying. So... You won't feel great.
And then they get spherical implants that look like two grapefruits taped to their pecs
@@shinobi-no-bueno Yeah, unless it's rather small implants, even on regular women with normal amounts of body fat, it looks artificial, but FBB with sub 10%, it looks really weird. Probably they did it when they started their fitness journey and saw that they lose the fat tissue and their breasts got smaller and didn't realize how weird it will look when they go pro with super low BF. But as Mike says, as long as they are happy with it...
The intro to this has me crying. The way Jonni sinks into his chair. Mike "ladies hit me up!" hahahahahhahahahahaha
OMG, forget it!!! my coach asked me to take clen to lose some fat......just clen to start out with I'm sure becuz I wanted to compete in the 50+, but after hearing all this great info, I think not. I like my female voice, I already have lots of hair I have to remove when I shower (Im Hispanic) and I like my healthy boobs and I don't need anymore aggression. So, I guess, competing is not for me. I'll just keep working out and looking beautifully muscular, naturally. Lots of consistency, clean eating and plenty of sleep. Thanks for this informative vid.
Stay female don't become a he she she he creature this was eye opening and highly disturbing
Just to be clear all these side effects do not come with clen, clen is not a muscle builder or huge hormone changer
Well, thanks for that... As that is now Hispanic ladies crossed off my list, if they are naturally like hairy yetties. The list of races I can pursue has dwindled further 😲
Thankfully there are always Filipino and Japanese ladies (among the least hairy), albeit very few of them in Scotland lol #firstworldproblems
@@undiscoveredstars1002while clen doesn't cause voice deepening, body hair etc. it has a long list of its own side effects, so it's far from harmless.
Great video! Also, the voice thing is real. Back in the 80s, I knew a woman who competed at the state level. And after winning her class in every state/regional show, she decided that she wanted to be nationally ranked, so she hopped on a small cycle of Anavar. At the time, she lived with her sister, and when I would call her, it always took a few seconds for me to figure out who picked up the phone (remember, land-line days). After she was on for under a month, I could instantly tell from "hello" who answered the phone! It can happen that fast.
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What happened to her all these years later? Did she have to stop and now just live with all the bad side-effects without the good? How did she turn out?
@@mikemac1298 She did qualify and competed in national shows and did fairly well but never got a pro card. She’s now in her mid 60s and still looks good for her age. Her voice is still like that, but it’s now similar to some women her age who’ve never been on gear.
The bigger issue is some bone density concerns. That could be due to the gear or the fact that she went literally years with amenorrhea, or maybe a combination of multiple factors. Many strongly competitive athletes, distance runners and ballet dancers for example, have similar issues as they age. Also, quite a few high level athletes, not just women, can develop problems with age. However, if you ask them now, most will say that it was worth it. They’re just wired different.
@@mikemac1298She now owns a channel on TH-cam called renaissance periodization.
Wow, under a month.
"You look like up and down" 🤣 Im weak but this is so accurate and amazing points to take into consideration for those thinking about taking drugs.
You're weak.. Must be hard to face that fact 😂
Agree or disagree??? I'm just happy to hear these blokes speak plainly.
These days everyone uses a ton of words to say NOTHING. Great vid!!
Thank you so much for this. I personally loved the conversation and the honesty. And of course..I appreciated the lack of judgements towards women who choose to juice.
Women who do juice are nothing more than women who have the desire to be men but can't.. They're weak and want to be strong.. But unfortunately for them even on juice the average guy is much stronger.. They're pathetic wannabes 😂
Youre taking male hormone lol this guy thinks its a fetish
Do you juice? How do you get it?
Okay this was funny, but also a great, very honest video. I hope any women that are considering steroids finds this video first. I think before taking anything like that, people need to hear the brutally honest truth. And the fact that some of those side effects will affect the body afterwards is important to know.
They gave extreme examples though. I’ve never seen 10mg of var effect a woman to the extremes they are saying. Male doses of test and tren will but if a woman is doing that then she already has made her decision and that’s the only kind of cycle that’s gonna make these woman giants like the ones competing pro.
I watched the Arnold Strongwoman Classic recently, and these women had taken massive hits to their feminity. I mean it's unfortunate, but if a woman wants the strength of an NCAA Div I linebacker, there is no other way.
@@kurtwpg the 80s were so much better bc it wasnt that extreme, bit over the top still ofc, but not too mcuh u know? they were still "feminine" and outside of working out, they just looks rly athletic. now its just...on another level i cant even form words for. the standards and the expectations are too much, for both genders.
@@popes446 Rachel McLish was sick hot. Especially offseason when she wasn't super lean.
Loved this vid. Wasnt screaming or farming for interaction. Just spoke calmly and talked to me like my dad and gave realistic expectations from a place of experience. Really enjoyed
Dr.Mike and Jonni at it again. Love to see it. Hope there's more collabs.
And this is just mainly aesthetic changes. Women need to think about the kidney disease and possible dialysis needed after long term use, cardiomegaly and heart failure to accompany, increase risk of heart attack and stroke, loss of fertility. Is it really worth all that?
Sure. But those things will come later and aren't as visible. They focused on things that will appear quickly for a reason.
Most women are going to not get married, not have kids, and be miserable by 2030 in the US.
I'm investing in box wine.
They focused on the female specific side effects. Those you mentioned are for every PEDs users regardless of gender.
@@bobjohnson1633 Add cat and dog food to that list of investing.
@@bobjohnson1633the sad truth. The elite and media are brainwashing the masses to destroy the strong family unit making us easier to control. 😔
You guys are crazy. Keep the colab videos coming guys. Two of the very best IMO.
Absolute best video about this! Really nicely executed ;) Thank you x
Great collab thanks Jonnie love your work 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Just like with anyone, which effects you see is going to vary based on your genetics. Some will get the jaw and the voice but no hair loss or facial hair, some will grow a straight beard but maintain a feminine face and voice, some will get all of the masculinizing features. Its VERY unlikely that you won't get any of them though.
Great video. You and Dr. Mike are a great combo.
2 minutes in and Mike is not disappointing me
Honest thank you for this. In this generation it's often not embraced to define femininity anymore and talking about losing my femininity because of bodybuilding only gets comments like "voice/curves/hair/attitude don't define femininity!!" But in the end, these just is a biological compound to it and steroids mess with it a lot. I was even considering taking hormones as mine are off anyways, but this video made me think again, not even because I want to be feminine, but because of the impact it has on the body and health.
Femininity only exists in the narcist female autoerotic delusion. For us Ten men all we see is a hive of early arrested minds in a second tier body following a hormonal curve.
Female hormones are much more complicated than men. Women can still go to an endocrinologist or a HRT clinic and have their hormones brought up to a healthy young woman level. Women don’t need much testosterone in their system but they still need some. Many women are low T and the clinics can help them. Some are low estrogen or a number of hormones can be low or high. Only bloodwork can tell. Once they level you out you can feel a lot better.
@@fivebooks8498very true. I have adrenal insufficiency and it affects a hormone called dhea that the body converts to estrogen and testosterone. By having low dhea that doesn’t convert to test, I have low test for a woman. I use a 1 percent compounded testosterone cream which just brings me to normal levels. It helps with mood, muscle retention and a several other things and I still look like myself.
Always enjoy seeing these two on a video together
Jonni!!!! Bro!! I died when you did the female competitor voice, I died! I remember the first time I heard a female competitor speak.. I was at the Arnold classic, I remember thinking to myself these dudes behind me sound weird and I turned around and it was two female competitors.. SHOCKED and caught off guard.. lol! But you nailed it! Lol!
Best true guy interviewed , good work Johnny 👍,,, this professional guy has perfect knowledge.
Jonni nails it again! Great video man!
Love the absolute 💯% honesty, stay real. 🙏🏼 Thank you
I love this, I don't think people discuss women and steroids enough. Ty
I know, so many women take them and lie about it now .
Very Informative, and on a tough subject no less. Bravo.
I wonder if there could be an analog to this interview which features gals on the lifestyle yinz are speaking of and they themselves dispell and level-set some of these myths of mindset. You two clearly know such types; though it seems part and parcel that using these substances to 'enhance' one's training as a female also comes with the often convoluted task of denying or softening (publicly) evidence of said use. But it could be interesting to hear about straight from the horse(s), so to speak.
And Dr. Mike is a freakydeek like whoa. All respect - but wow, bruv.
Thanks for the absolute honesty that you have put out here. It’s everyone’s choice, but most 99% of gym people I know are just going for broke, and most have no idea how splippery the slope can be.
I appreciate the candid info!!!
My friend is mtf trans and asked a female bodybuilder how long she had been transitioning 😅
😂😂😂
My son is trans and worried that by the time he needs to take them it might be illegal. I said, not to worry. I'd scout the gym for the biggest dudes and he'd be set.
@@Mikathedog100he didn't mention vaginal atrophy and the pain and potentially fatal urinary tract infections that come with taking test. You might want to factor those in too.
@@Mikathedog100wtf?
This was a really good video! I don’t know much about steroid usage and it’s interesting to hear about the effects on women. Also your bikini competitor voice is hilarious, yet accurate 😂
This video has been in my recommended for a looong time since I’m going down a steroid/bodybuilding rabbit hole. I’ve been ignoring it despite my interest in the subject because of how disgustingly judgemental people tend to be when they talk about *women* and steroids but my oh my how refreshing was this video. I love dude in the blues approach to this topic, he’s very clear on the effects, not sugar coating anything but still being informative and kind about how he puts it out there. If I was considering taking juice, I would 100% be more deterred by someone who takes this approach rather than just bashing people just because they personally don’t understand/ aren’t attracted to the look they’re going for. Well done man
09:20 lmaooo im dying “please go on”
When we recorded this video, thats how we wanted it to be watched. We both have a lot of experience both as coaches and competitors and i believe its the only real approach one should take IF they want people to listen.
"No more curves...you're looking like UP and DOWN" had me HOLLERING lmfaooo
I absolutely fucking love this specific colab, such funny guys saying serious things
That was good information! I needed to hear this 😅
Thanks.. great topic. Nobody talks about it, instead we should make it known and understood. Well done, very good boys. Thank you love you Mike ❤❤
The algorithm led me here and I’m so glad it did! Mike is just perfect. Secure in his manhood and complimentary of all female forms. I love it! 😂❤
Mike is hilarious on all platforms. He may have scared every female competitor going forward forever 😂
🤣🤣🎯🎯🎯
lol 😮 Jonni wasn't ready for this one...
Good objective analysis! Thank you gentlemen.
Very important stuff, thanks for talking about that!
Top duo ! Wanna see a long long podcast with you 2 please
Excellent video… we need more honesty and transparency.
More of this please! This was great! 💪
Good of you guys to put out the info
Listening to Dr. Mike it’s almost like a meditation. Love this guys video.🙏👍
the reason mike is one of my fav's is because he isnt afraid to tell the truth and does it in a comical way that we all know is true.
Maaaaaad respect for dr mike warning women of the side effects of steroids despite him being into it. Too many dudes deliberately manipulate women into their fetishes.
That's definitely something I've thought about a lot. Because the guys at my gym, I'll overhear them discussing gear and things, they're just cops or teachers. They aren't pro lifting. But I wondered if any women take gear just to get a better physique.
Mike says he likes the look, but I’d bet his wife has never done gear, and he wouldn’t want her to.
Mike is trying to be diplomatic
Might be my fave Dr Mike segment of all time.
Thanks for making the video was interesting hearing the thoughts of Dr Mike
Great video! no judgement on choices just facts!
its fair to say it shoudl be common sense that women running gear has nothing but negative results. Not good for men either but its exponentially worse for women. Stating facts in the 21st century is considering judgement to most people, especially sensitive ass BBers.
This was a phenomenal video!
spilled my coffee two times, thanks :)))
Appreciate this video, none of my favorite TH-camrs talk about steroid use but my husband says they definitely are on something.
I’ve rewatched this video six times since last night just because it’s so funny. I love it. 👍🏽
I’m glad my consideration of drugs was only ever that, consideration. In weighing the pros and cons I was able to make the right decision for me and this video will help others do the same 💪🏼
Another great collaboration! Thanks for having an honest conversation about the side effects of being on gear. Jonni the next time you talk to Dr. Mike can you check how many PhDs he has? It seems like he has 1 in exercise science and another in sex jokes.
Subscribers are jumping!!’ I followed you two days ago and u was in the mid 500,000s.. good shit and yall won’t ever be cancel yall talk to much real shit!!
Omg that intro with Mike and Johnny, especially Johnny just sitting there lmao just have me rolling
Also just because someone else has great results doesn’t mean you will, just like in men, some women can get great results and low side effects, some can get mild results and all the side effects, hormonal Russian roulette.
John really seems to be buying Mike's
" it's a hot look " argument. 🤦🏼♂️😂
idk i dont like the super buff body but i do like fit and buff women there are just levels to that shit
Very insightful. Never thought about it like that.
MOre COllabs with you guys! LOVE IT
Damn Jonnis voice impression of a female bodybuilder was so on point lol
I'm a bit older probably than most people here. When I was growing up, the female Bodybuilders that were popular were:
1. Cory Everson 2. Rachel Mclish 3. Bev Francis
I found Cory and Rachel to maintain their femininity and were hot!
Bev was awesome too but she was more masculine. She had her own gym and her own show on ESPN I believe.
This was during the 80s.
How did Cory look so great compared to the modern women body-builders using gear?
I like these fireside style chats.
Thank you for the honest!!❤❤
Mike is the Sean Strickland of bodybuilding 😂
Like if sean went to college
*if sean could get into college@areichental
Guy is not afraid to admit it! Respect that.
Awesome Jonni 👏👍. I go away for a year and you blew up , haha . Congrats 🎉
I like that dr mike is supportive of women making choices for their appearance based on what they want, not random men, unlike a lot of the commenters.
Of course you do.
You should go look like that too.
Thanks for making something for the ladies 😊
Mike is a great dude. Love the honesty and keeping it real.
Mike's honesty is refreshing man
Ngl how "freaky" Dr Mike is about his tastes gives me hope for meeting a man who will be into me.
We out here just don't lose hope
There’s a man fetish for every type of woman! ❤
I'm dating a lady powerlifter. She loves how I'm into her muscular thiccness
L take bruh men be into anything and everything
alot of us out here
I worked out in a Walnut Creek Golds Gym alongside a female Ms Olympia competitor, finished 7th , During the Cory Everson Era . She was Huge ,Ripped and carried a very Deep voice .
Did she look good or was she way bigger than you?
@@briguy459 she looked Great and she was Jacked .
Dr. Mike Israetel: the right mix of sarcasm and keeping it real!
educational, thanks... I missed the part with the reactions tho😅
Love the videos with dr mike
Fckng Goat
Greatest explanation ever great job Mike
I love you guys. Great video.
Good episode👍🏼
Unfortunately, a lot of these side effects are the same as those of us suffering from PCOS - which we don’t choose. You can’t even imagine being an 11 year old girl going through puberty and instead of turning into a curvy, feminine woman, you seem to be turning into a man. There is treatment, but no cure.
It does make natural bodybuilding easier, though.
* you guys are getting paid meme * you're getting muscle gains? lmao my pcos only gives me acne, body hair and a slightly unfortunate fat distribution, still struggling to build any muscle
@@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaria yes, I build muscle easily. NOT the long, lean muscle that most women want, though; I bulk muscle 💪 like a man. I also get the acne and body hair that you mentioned, as well as thinning hair/receding hair line. I used to take medicine to treat my PCOS, but stopped a couple of years ago.
@@fitfatty211I’m a woman and I want the bulky look 💪🏻 not the lean, long muscle look. That’s what I’m aiming for in the gym and what I find pretty 🌷
Nothing to do with steroids or even this post. But I have just gone back to the gym after 3 weeks off and it's scary how weak I feel. I feel like a complete beginner 😢
Dont worry. Just start your progression from a new baseline. Even if it takes say 6 weeks to get back to your previous strength level it's nothing timewise in the grand scheme of things. There will be ups and downs, its inevitable. You will be back.
Interesting. I took a month off and came back stronger on every movement but pull ups.
I was sick for a month, and ended up with sepsis. When I got back my max was pretty much my warmup weight from before. It took 3 months to get it all back
Just lift harder. More reps. More sets. Then do some more. Then be incapable of moving.
So what? It'll be easier to regain your past form now. In 6 months you'll get back most of the muscle you had. Just keep going.
Amazing and insightful
Amazing info😮
Love how you both talk about the reality and knowledge of bodybuilding but put a hilarious spin to it. You guys are the Ricky Gervais and Dave Chapelle of the fitness industry! Keep up the good work.
BTW, I’ll let you figure out who is who. 🤪
"I don't fucking care, I don't"
Comment just got me in the feels lol. Dave Chappelle i am not worthy lol
dr. mike is way funnier than gervais imo
Dr. Mike is so awesome.
love the video. very informative, very entertaining xDD
Love the Dr mike vids
Yall funny af do more videos together