About Pokemon's Terrains

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  • I discuss about how Pokemon's Terrain mechanic has been expanded on overtime before talking about similar mechanics in other games or the lack thereof before discussing my own ongoing project.
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  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +849

    Terrains were so unimpactful in Gen 6, that I legitimately thought they were added in Gen 7.

    • @Escence-w6f
      @Escence-w6f 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Same bro

    • @sleeplessnarcolept6541
      @sleeplessnarcolept6541 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      Oh I was in the same boat. Ot wasnt until the Tapus forced you to confront them that I realized they exist

    • @user-AADZ
      @user-AADZ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      The "I thought Magcargo was a gen 3 Pokemon" effect

    • @gavingrawrock9589
      @gavingrawrock9589 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Is it weird that I used to think Magcargo was Gen 1? I had only seen the anime as a child, and it was mainly the gen 5 and 6 anime.

    • @lasercraft32
      @lasercraft32 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@gavingrawrock9589 That's so strange lol! XD
      Usually people assume Magcargo was Gen 3, because that's when it was most accessible. In reality its from Gen 2. I've never heard of anyone mistaking it for Gen 1 before. XD

  • @SuperUmizoomi
    @SuperUmizoomi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +506

    i need to acknowledge how absurd f a sentence "pokemon made a sequel to weather" is without context

    • @paperfishstudios3144
      @paperfishstudios3144 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      weather 2 is that one time it rained fish or somethin

    • @SuperUmizoomi
      @SuperUmizoomi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@paperfishstudios3144 it has 'rained' fish or other small animals like spiders and frogs many times across the world, what happens is basically a tornado picks them up and carries them for several miles and then drops them

    • @MegafanX123
      @MegafanX123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@paperfishstudios3144 You could even make two movies about that

    • @Techy404
      @Techy404 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MegafanX123 we need the tornado to be more dangerous, how about sharks?

    • @usernametaken017
      @usernametaken017 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Techy404you could make several movies about that. Maybe don't though

  • @Bawktee
    @Bawktee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

    As someone who has been keeping up to date with all of the zodiac mons, I love the bit of having the horoscope being “have a good day today” every time

  • @Spearmint4
    @Spearmint4 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +370

    I like how one person and possibly more are confused because of why galarian weezing is there, assuming they only have neutralizing gas, but meanwhile they have misty surge as an ability as well.

    • @Mrdonjuliothewicked
      @Mrdonjuliothewicked 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      "some people"
      * Checks comments and sees literally one person being confused about it *

    • @Spearmint4
      @Spearmint4 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@Mrdonjuliothewicked I fixed it.

    • @BbBot64
      @BbBot64 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I too was confused… and I know a lotttttt about Pokémon. Neutralizing gas too good

    • @Druid-T
      @Druid-T 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Yeah, Misty is probably the worst terrain, and Neutralizing Gas's potential is so strong, so it's not surprising that people forget Weezing is one of the terrain setters

    • @bigmonke3348
      @bigmonke3348 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      thats why I think they should just remove it and give it to musharna plus make musharna psychic/fairy

  • @N1ghtL1ght64
    @N1ghtL1ght64 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +227

    nortist animating iron hands twerking is something i would never expect

    • @hedgehogpower194
      @hedgehogpower194 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Wha

    • @SakhotGamer
      @SakhotGamer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      I don't think he animated that, I can see it being a meme someone else made beforehand

    • @N1ghtL1ght64
      @N1ghtL1ght64 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SakhotGamer oh oki

    • @hellofellowbotsss
      @hellofellowbotsss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Timestamp?
      Nvm i found it 24:15

  • @djarian_alpharadical
    @djarian_alpharadical 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    I don’t know if anyone else has mentioned this, but Electric Terrain’s sleep prevention is different from Misty Terrain’s status prevention.
    Electric Terrain stops any Pokémon touching the ground from being asleep. For example, if a Pokémon uses Rest then, it’s another Pokémon uses Electric Terrain, then that Pokémon will immediately wake up. That also includes flying sleeping Pokémon forced onto the ground by Gravity or Smack Down.
    Misty Terrain does not remove status, it prevents it. So if a Pokémon is already statused and Misty Terrain goes up, it will still be statused.

  • @Galarticuno
    @Galarticuno 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    Unmentioned, and probably less important
    Genesis Supernova was an additional way to add Psychic Terrain, but it was a Z-move exclusive to Mew.
    Galarian Stunfisk got Mimicry, which basically acts like a terrain version of Castform’s Forecast ability.
    The DLC added two other terrain related moves, Terrain Pulse acted somewhat like a terrain version of Weather Ball.
    The other move, Steel Roller, was a new way to remove terrain, other than Defog, GMax Wind Rage, or Splintered Stormshards.
    Terrain Extender is an item that would extend the effects of terrain
    Psyblade, even though it’s a Psychic move, has an additional effect where it could also be powered up by 50% in Electric Terrain

    • @memelurd7341
      @memelurd7341 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the case of psyblade, it can be effectively 70 percent of attack is the highest stat.

  • @eyezalone2591
    @eyezalone2591 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +400

    The fact that you picked Rillaboom for a Gorillaz parody is just amazing 😂

    • @shrimplyfire
      @shrimplyfire 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      when was the reference

    • @MitchellNeville
      @MitchellNeville 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      @@shrimplyfireThumbnail. The thumbnail is reminiscent of the Gorillaz cover image, specifically Demon Days.

    • @seanwilson5753
      @seanwilson5753 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I'm just focused on how he managed to mix up the colors for the two Weezing forms.

    • @xapa_
      @xapa_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I really want that image from the thumbnail

    • @devil_summoner
      @devil_summoner 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HOY

  • @DyxoXinoro
    @DyxoXinoro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    I legit forgot terrains were introduced in XY. I thought they were introduced in SuMo as a unique mechanic of the Tapus that got later given to other pokemon in SwSh.

    • @Raegoer
      @Raegoer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I only kinda do, because of Dr. Pikachu from ORAS getting E.Terrain

    • @DyxoXinoro
      @DyxoXinoro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Raegoer I completely forgot the cosplay pikas existed as well

    • @ErisCalamitasButFR
      @ErisCalamitasButFR 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Love how Kalos remains the most forgettable generation of pokemon, as exemplified here

    • @Heyn_17
      @Heyn_17 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ErisCalamitasButFR love?

  • @KVO723
    @KVO723 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Komala on Electric Terrain: 🫤

    • @vez3834
      @vez3834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Komala: -.-
      Komala on Electric terrain: O.O

  • @turtle10141
    @turtle10141 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    "if the floor is covered in ourple-" was definitely not what i expected to hear but i love it

  • @Pikadude31451
    @Pikadude31451 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    LOVED the video! I'd like to note that "Pokemon Masters Ex" sorta explored terrains more with "Zones"; They exist as power boost for each type that does not have a respective weather or terrain (or in the case of ground and fairy, receive an actual power boost). Its wacky seeing all three conditions running at once.

    • @typemasters2871
      @typemasters2871 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Indeed, it’s fun seeing how some of these can combine
      Rain + Electric Terrain + Flying Zone: Storm Combo
      Sun + Grassy Terrain: Solar Beam/Blade Combo
      And then Zones matching up with hail (ice) and sandstorm (rock and ground) with Misty Terrain being replaced with Fairy Zone in Masters
      I do think Zones were added so that there aren’t only 5 types with a higher damage cap, would be hard to sell a strong ice type if players don’t see it as good as a unit that gets buffed in weather or terrain

    • @oniricfantasy6687
      @oniricfantasy6687 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      While zones are interesting, I think it would be way too much to add a field change for every type, tho, it could be interesting to see more of them, I think adding one terrain and one weather could already make a big change
      Windy weather, as mega Rayquaza lost ability, it would buff flying moves 50% or boost flying types speed
      Smog Terrain, this terrain would have an effect to reduce damage from fairy type moves and as secondary effect it would reduce in -1 any positive stat boost, so sword dance would once boost 1 level attack, and dragon dance wouldn't boost anything

    • @typemasters2871
      @typemasters2871 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@oniricfantasy6687
      Speaking of field effects for other types, I think some type of field effect that benefits bug types would be good, not necessarily weather or terrain but something like trick room or stealth rocks

    • @oniricfantasy6687
      @oniricfantasy6687 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@typemasters2871 There is already sticky web, it would be cooled if bug types weren't affected by it, and make big type moves that benefit from grassy terrain

    • @typemasters2871
      @typemasters2871 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@oniricfantasy6687 Sticky Web getting a big buff like that would be cool
      But if they want to add a new move, they could add bug type stealth rocks, or a move that damages/weakens non bug types whilst also healing/buffing bug types

  • @luccabibar7033
    @luccabibar7033 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    oh that thumbnail is FIRE

    • @BlitzGaming654
      @BlitzGaming654 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I caught the reference too

    • @yungdahl9620
      @yungdahl9620 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Feh goo

  • @BrilliantBro
    @BrilliantBro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I’ve always been interested in the terrain mechanic, so I’m super excited that made a video about it, because I love to try and make teams centred around this mechanic!😄

    • @turkoositerapsidi
      @turkoositerapsidi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sea urchin needs stats increase.

  • @Purpletisc
    @Purpletisc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Iron Fazbear getting a bit freaky like that caught me off guard lmao

  • @lilharm
    @lilharm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

    I felt like it was really unfair that Miraidon’s signature move got both STAB and Terrain boost, but because they gave Koraidon the fighting type, they had to pick between giving the signature weather boost with fire type, or STAB boost with fighting

    • @Escence-w6f
      @Escence-w6f 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Doesnt the move get boosted in harsh sun

    • @El_Neon_20180
      @El_Neon_20180 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Koraidon should have been a Fire type

    • @MEISMUDKIPS
      @MEISMUDKIPS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Considering both stab and weather boost is 50% for fire, at the cost of having the "weaker" stab between the two legendaries, it sort of gets a 3rd stab because of sun

    • @MEISMUDKIPS
      @MEISMUDKIPS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@Escence-w6fnope, collision course gets a boost if it is super effective against the target. Koraidon itself gets a buff in sun

    • @lilharm
      @lilharm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@MEISMUDKIPS yeah true, I probably would’ve given Collision Corse a bonus effect of being boosted by sunlight (by the same amount as terrains), so the 2 legendaries get equivalent boosts for their moves

  • @NowiRiley
    @NowiRiley 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    To be fair to the oddity of Terrains, there are also very niche things that the weathers have that are also not super symmetrical with each other, such as being unable to become Frozen in Harsh Sunlight having no counterpart condition with Rain.

    • @puppd7428
      @puppd7428 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It would be crazy if you couldent be burned in the snow

  • @Ojamamon67
    @Ojamamon67 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    This is so interesting! One of my favorite reams uses both terrain and weather. Ninetales-a sets up 8 turns of aurora veil thanks to its snow warning, then bulky Pincurchin sets up electric terrain for 8 turns with its terrain extender item and its ability. Then Iron Hands comes in activating its Quark Drive and taking diminished damage and proceeds to Belly Drum. At 2000+ atk it can now ohko even resists with a combination of Drain Punch, thinder punch and tera normal facade. Its not the best strategy but its super fun to pull off

  • @thisbox
    @thisbox 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    1. Neat to see you using Firefox
    2. meet the spy jumpscare

  • @breakfastwawa
    @breakfastwawa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Terrainz - Feel Boost Inc.

  • @SkadingleMadongle
    @SkadingleMadongle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like to think that psychic terrain makes the pokemon able to telepathically read each other's thoughts (since psychic is like the 'mind-type'). So they cant plan a sneaky priority move, therefore it fails.

  • @zinzolin14
    @zinzolin14 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Honestly, getting to see those incredible backgrounds was enough for me to try and make terrain builds. Which is why I was so devastated with Gen 8.
    I think terrains can be a world encounter, to better introduce them to the player. Areas like Chargestone Cave, or those with heavy fog would be great places for naturally occurring special terrain. As for Grassy and Psychic, maybe a deep forest grove and mysterious ruins respectively?
    Overall I think terrain are an interesting mechanic, and I hope GF will keep expanding it.

  • @tealightjay7020
    @tealightjay7020 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    i am among the many who did not know terrains were added in gen 6. also i really dig the mention of competitive meta most likely influencing their design, i’ve always wondered about the thought process behind balance changes since I don’t keep up with the series incredibly closely

  • @Muchinger
    @Muchinger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    fact about how rising voltage works. It's power gets doubled if the opponent is touching the ground, BUT does not gain the 30% boost when doing so. It will get the 30% boost however if the opponent is flying type or has levitate. Sadly not as broken, but still pretty good.

  • @aydep3363
    @aydep3363 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    S+ tier thumbnail

  • @NIMPAK1
    @NIMPAK1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I personally like the idea of different types of locations having different battle effects like say caves could increase the power of sound-based moves or allow ground types to hit flying types since the ground is also on the ceiling. You could also have some kind of terra-forming mechanic which potentially even be permanent at the cost of a turn to use.

  • @michaelkowal3230
    @michaelkowal3230 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    In the weather wars, slower mons had the advantage as their weather setting ability would activate later, overriding the weather that the faster pokemon set up, its why when I use a weather team, I set up sandstorm with Hippowdon's sand stream

  • @CyberKirby
    @CyberKirby 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One of my favorite terrain-adjacent ideas was for a G-Max Sudowoodo. As it's a rock that mimics a tree, I gave it a G-Max move that mimics the Grass-type Max Move. G-Max Overstone would set up a Rocky Terrain that basically was Sandstorm as a Terrain.

  • @harvgilbert3
    @harvgilbert3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Bit random, but during the discussion about the lack of terrain mechanics in games, I couldn’t stop thinking about divinity original sin 2 as I’m just finishing a playthrough. Not only can “weather” and “terrains” exist at the same time, but these systems are inherently interlinked, wet floors can be electrified, oily floors can be detonated. Maybe you could look into this kind of system of interactions for your game

  • @pearyn
    @pearyn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    HOLY iron hands was caked up

  • @erinkarp
    @erinkarp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Always excited to see a new video!

  • @TheloyalArcanine
    @TheloyalArcanine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In Gen 6, I used a Male Meowstic with Prankster which had Misty Terrain, Reflect, and Light Screen. I sent it out in double battles with my Typhlosion, which had Nature Power. That Typhlosion was a beast, it would destroy Darkrai in 1 hit, nullify dark void, and use Eruption. It had extrasensory and solar beam but i never used those, always nature power and eruption. Typhlosion can use thunderbolt and energy bsll through terrain powered nature powers, which made me happy. I loved that Meowstic and Typhlosion combo, no one saw it coming at the time.

  • @oniricfantasy6687
    @oniricfantasy6687 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think with the entry of terrains, is moment to make actually good climatic/terrain moves
    Movements that not only create a terrain/weather but create both, example
    Storm Dance, it would call electric terrain and rain
    Garden Day, it would call grassy terrain and harsh sun
    Fogscape, it would call misty terrain and snowstorm
    Brainstorm, it would call psychic terrain and Sandstorm
    These moves would allow to activate both terrain and sandstorm, which can be very useful in determinate pokemon, for example fire types which already use sunny day to propulse solar beam would get the extra 50% damage from grassy terrain, this would make people actually consider sacrifice a turn to call unto two environments or use a pokemon ability to call one
    Also this would justify giving normal terrain/weather moves 10 pp

  • @fernandodurier8332
    @fernandodurier8332 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As fan of terrain mechanics and a Taurus, I couldn't love this video more. Really looking forward to your game being released 😊

  • @typemasters2871
    @typemasters2871 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Kyogre and Miraidon, legendaries that set weather/terrain that boost their own stab
    Tapu Koko and Tapu Lele, strong sub-legendaries that set terrain that boost their own stab
    Rillaboom, Indeedee, and Charizard Y, strongest regular Pokemon that set weather/terrain that boost their own stab
    It is unfortunate that Groudon and Koraidon both set sun but both physical focused and neither part fire in base form, thus even if both knew eruption the move wouldn’t be considered “optimal” unlike Kyogre and Water Spout combo

  • @shelmet5
    @shelmet5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    the heatwave and twilight in coromon were changed, now twilight reverses positive stat changes to negative (except ghost types), heatwave grants a 25% boost to every fire mon's highest stat, the stamina thing is still here but it changes stamina usage a lot less now

  • @bleebobloop3175
    @bleebobloop3175 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    i think when it comes to a terrain-like mechanic, they dont need to be warring the same way that weathers are. Cause when you really think about it, theres nothing about grassy terrain that exactly overrides electric terrain
    so what you metioned about electromagnetic and gravitational fields could work perfectly fine if they dont have to clash

  • @erinkarp
    @erinkarp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I really like the pattern to your weather system!

  • @yaayitshope
    @yaayitshope 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i’m always so excited whenever you show those clips of your gameplay and something new is there. the grass is so nice! i like the way the characters are paper mario like but the setting isn’t really

  • @katrinamarsh8691
    @katrinamarsh8691 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    0:35 no it’s raining outside. I will not touch grass.

    • @sharkyboss3d
      @sharkyboss3d 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Seems like you’re experiencing a downpour there

  • @aliciahuang6329
    @aliciahuang6329 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You know what I don't see is a weather and Terrain mix team.
    A stab thunder in rain with electric terrain.
    Solar beam in sunny day with grassy terrain.

    • @vez3834
      @vez3834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably just not great to be so conditional, but fun idea

    • @oniricfantasy6687
      @oniricfantasy6687 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What about a "Telekinetic Debris" move that shoots debris to the enemy, in psychic terrain it gets 50% buff and it have 50% chance to confuse in sandstorm
      Or a move that boost speed 3 levels but needs snowstorm to work, in fairy terrain this would also... I dont know, work as a protection move that turn? Reducing half damage you get

    • @tavvviaiavia
      @tavvviaiavia 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      no i see koko on rain sometimes in natdex

  • @cellP8
    @cellP8 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That thumbnail is 🔥

  • @eeveebrosstudios
    @eeveebrosstudios 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your note about Cryo, Pyro, and Hydro… I’d suggest the Pyro increases Attack in some form, and not moves themselves, maybe chemical attack types to give more contrast between pyro and cryo

  • @CastafioreOnYoutube
    @CastafioreOnYoutube 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    About Misty Explosion's lower BP, note that most users of it will likely also have STAB on it. This, combined with the boost it gets from terrain (from it's own effect, not the terrain's) to 150 BP makes it a 225 BP move in total, very much in line with Explosion and Self Destruct; which most relevant users of those moves will not get STAB on (besides Galvanize Alolan Golem, I guess).

    • @vez3834
      @vez3834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So something like
      100 x1.5 from move effect x1.5 from stab x1.3 from terrain (x2 or x4 from potentially being super effective)
      = 292.5 (doubled almost 600)

    • @CastafioreOnYoutube
      @CastafioreOnYoutube 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vez3834 Unfortunately nope! Remember Misty Terrain doesn't give a boost to Fairy type moves, only Misty Explosion gets a boost due to it's own effect 🙃

    • @vez3834
      @vez3834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CastafioreOnTH-cam Ah! Yes, my bad.

  • @pixelfire86
    @pixelfire86 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    13:37 And dark types became immune to prankster priority moves.

  • @erinkarp
    @erinkarp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    honestly surprised more games don't have a 2-system type thing like pokemon's Weather and Terrains, I think a pretty obvious one would be Weather & Day/Night cycle, or temperature

  • @TheEnlightenedOne..
    @TheEnlightenedOne.. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i’ve never seen a thumbnail go this hard before

  • @ThePika78
    @ThePika78 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wait for n0r to hear out about Zone effects not clashing with Terrain nor Weather and boosting its corresponding Type's Zone.
    (It's a Pokemon Masters Mechanic, so I don't consider it fully canon, but TPC/GF had to seen it in action and approve it so it could be added sooooo theyare partially canon to me)

  • @MarshPoketrainer
    @MarshPoketrainer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I found out about Terrain from Pokemon Masters where WTZ (weather, zone, terrain) are much more important, with abilities such as 50-90% damage reduction with any WTZ, damage boost and damage reduction with on type WTZ where you deal almost no damage to enemies but they would deal a million damage in one attack.

    • @vez3834
      @vez3834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      WTZ is a cool acronym! I know nothing about Pokemon Masters. Thanks for this comment :)

  • @fntthesmth423
    @fntthesmth423 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I find it hilarious that my first thought was about the fact that in Gen 3, they also added a "field effect" that 1) changed the status that one move could inflict and 2) made it so the little circle under your guys looked different depending on where the battle was initiated and 3) uhh actually i think thats it...
    I have now looked it up, and I was wrong! There were 3 moves introduced in Gen 3 that had in-battle effects that changed depending on the environment--Nature Power, Camouflage, and Secret Power. It seems like the effects of these moves were actually kind of extensive even before the whole 'terrains' stuff came into being. Especially since Camouflage was the signature move of the Staryu line in Gen 3...
    ...it's like Terrain's been bumbled multiple times lol

  • @PipS03
    @PipS03 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    please tell me I wasn't the only person who thought that psychic terrain was also added in gen 6

  • @jansolo4628
    @jansolo4628 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There is one pokemon fangame I know of that does Weather and Terrains separately: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance.
    There are 5 weathers and 5 terrains, each with a setting-move, a few boosted abilities, and weather (but not terrain) setting abilities. Granted, the effects of weather are generally different but terrains are even more different because that's where things like Trick Room, Wonder Room, Gravity, etc. can be found. Weather and terrain can co-exist and there's even a few rare moves that set a weather AND terrain.
    Here's a brief overview of the different weathers and terrains in that game made by an active member of the community: th-cam.com/video/3iTcDpZyCqI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pl_iphq0IhBAyHkl

  • @InsertFunnyThingHere
    @InsertFunnyThingHere 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    XY in general was shockingly terrible at showcasing everything actually new it added. Like i get the whole game was made to be as safe as possible after gen 5 angered half the playerbase but like you'd think they'd want to showcase them in-game.

    • @totokekedile
      @totokekedile 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why? They had much more important things to focus on showcasing. I don't think there's anything wrong with throwing in a minor mechanic, seeing how it plays out, and decide if you want to expand on it later. Pokemon has a bunch of stuff like this, like Gravity.

    • @InsertFunnyThingHere
      @InsertFunnyThingHere 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@totokekedile I was talking about new mechanics in general, not just terrain. They're generally less bad at showcasing new mechanics than I remember in XY, but I feel like the new Pokemon added were mostly overshadowed by the large amount of old pokemon in each route, and megas (despite being made a big deal by the plot) weren't showcased as well as I feel like they should have been.
      There's only like 4 enemy megas in the entire game and most of the megas the player gets to use are relatively hidden, obtained late, and belong to pokemon that exist in like a singular route at a 10% encounter rate. Like it wouldn't surprise me if a player going into XY blind wouldn't even know that half of these guys got megas, let alone what those megas actually looked like.

  • @Ewokpenguin
    @Ewokpenguin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Domain expansion: Psychic Terrain"

  • @edoardospagnolo6252
    @edoardospagnolo6252 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "How were terrains not too confusing?" No no, they were.

  • @arielalejandrodelfabro1740
    @arielalejandrodelfabro1740 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I find so cool the idea of both weather and terrain
    Because they don’t overwrite each other and they help boost some pokemon types and give them new life
    I would actually love to see something like terrains in more games. Not only because it is a bit fun to see so many different effect. But also because not all types can be helped with weather
    At least, not that easily
    Think about the normal type. There is no way a climate can boost it. That’s why Castform changes types. And probably a convergent would do too

    • @vez3834
      @vez3834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What if Normal types took less damage when there is no weather or terrain?

    • @arielalejandrodelfabro1740
      @arielalejandrodelfabro1740 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vez3834 that would make the normal types specially good paired with moves that remove weather/terrain
      That could be interesting, tho… not really sure if is the strategy normal types would use the most

  • @AmberDragonair
    @AmberDragonair 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    7:37 THATS MY GOAT THATS MY BOY WOLFE 🗣️🗣️

  • @daleanabolinaga7749
    @daleanabolinaga7749 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We Love You n0Rtist

  • @evelyie
    @evelyie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    BANGER THUMB

  • @shep4184
    @shep4184 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I genuinely did not know terrains existed until gen 7 lmao

  • @datacorrput2158
    @datacorrput2158 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    my mind is tweakin wondering where psychic terrain was in gen 6

  • @ohmygodtheykilledkenny4887
    @ohmygodtheykilledkenny4887 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a huge Gorillaz fan, that thumbnail goes so hard

  • @tinycandleman
    @tinycandleman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Oh boy, I sure hope I get to watch this live!
    oh

  • @legreatest
    @legreatest 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That thumbnail goes so hard

  • @peekopyro1840
    @peekopyro1840 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Misty Explosion = Explosion but pink

  • @QuantumPhanatic
    @QuantumPhanatic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think your idea for emag and gravitational fields is really cool, and could maybe be extended to an entire weather system just called "Fields." Could be really fun to explore more STEM topics centered around spatial changes. This could include emag, gravitational, dark energy (opposite grav I guess), heck maybe you could even change the "coordinate system" of the field with a "Polar Field" which makes you attack any creatures radially next to you instead of in front of you. Could be fun to explore.

  • @wanderingfoxgod
    @wanderingfoxgod 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In Ragnarok Online there's a terrain spell that's act the same way.
    Volcano boost fire magical and physical damage. Deluge and Violent Gale does the same thing but with water and wind element respectively. There are additional effects to these terrains too. Then there's Magnetic feild, a terrain which boost nothing but it prevents area targeting spell to be casted and it's effect invalid.

  • @jesusaguirre2150
    @jesusaguirre2150 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I didn't even know terrain was a gen 6 mechanic. I didn't hear about them until gen 7 and i didn't even play those games 😅

  • @Darkrai_Y_GX
    @Darkrai_Y_GX 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yay a new video :D

  • @hailthequeenFM
    @hailthequeenFM 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    If you don't know what the terrains do, VGC will teach you, and you will learn. Fun factoid: at least one terrain will be the meta in a Gen, with Electric because Tapu Koko could beat a good chunk of the meta in Gen 7, Grassy because of Grassy Glide Rillaboom in Gen 8, and Psychic because of PsySpam in Gen 9.

    • @ethanvon222
      @ethanvon222 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      cant wait for misty terrain to be meta in gen 10

  • @sethaugustine1182
    @sethaugustine1182 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just for info sake..in Yu-Gi-Oh you can have a field spell, Umiiruka, which boosts water monsters and Starboy which boosts water types and debuffs fire type and the close off with Aquarium Set which tripples down on your water boost coverage and can all be played on the same turn and does not remove or interrupt eachother....😁

  • @IntelN3o
    @IntelN3o 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    add a twister weather that boosts flying moves by 30%, its could also make all core types (grass, fire, water) be less effective in it, with it being dragged into the twister

  • @Deadflower019
    @Deadflower019 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So, this isn't directly relevant to Terrains, but I've always wanted a specialized Trick Room specific attack.
    I call mine Tricky Slide. It's a 60 BP move that gains +2 Priority in Trick Room. I'd give it to Medicham, Hypno, Solrock, Malamar, Lucario, Mienshao, Starmie, and a few others.

  • @Predo180
    @Predo180 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i was just like "dude where is the tatsugiri" and then i noticed thats singles

  • @BulbasaurReyiz
    @BulbasaurReyiz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Freakinng Gorlillaz reference wtf

    • @Your_Local_Italian24
      @Your_Local_Italian24 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Pokemonz

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In addition to the fact that it neatly shows off the four terrain setters that are not the Tapus, Rillaboom is the premier terrain setter overall, so using Demon Days as a reference is also very clever.

    • @あやとり-k6s
      @あやとり-k6s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Monz

  • @The7thLysineinyourDNA
    @The7thLysineinyourDNA 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:04 that gasp tho

  • @BamaMophi
    @BamaMophi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like the Pledge moves that were added in Gen V needed this treatment. The combination effects of the Terrain moves are legitimately game changing, however, the only Pokémon that can learn them being starters severely hampers their viability. Especially since they’re special attack only moves and a large majority of the competitively viable starters are physical attackers with the special attackers often having a signature move of the same type that is better in every way for what that pokemon wants to do. Sylvally (for some reason) is the only exception that can learn Grass Pledge, but it is once again a physical attacker.
    I truly believe that if they opened access to more pokemon, that these moves would see some competitive viability and even success. They did eventually buff the base power of these moves to be a decent damage option, now they just need to offer it as a move option to other mons.
    Imagine an opponent is able to get a taunt off on your Whimsicott attempting to stop you from getting speed priority with tailwind. However you instead went for Grass Pledge to lower the speed of Pokemon on their side of the field while at the same time providing a power boost to your Iron Bundle’s Water Pledge equal to a Helping Hand boost, effectively making it a fully accurate Hydro Pump.
    I have no doubt that pros would find interactions for every move combination that can save them and/or lead them to victory in a competitive match.

  • @MarcosArranzSoriano
    @MarcosArranzSoriano 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    21:03 im pretty sure that it gets mentionedsomewhere in the gen 7's Battle Royale

  • @WooperLeTrooper
    @WooperLeTrooper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No terrain, no gain.
    Thanks for another great video, N0rtist!

  • @lofigalaxy1272
    @lofigalaxy1272 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I ❤ PsySpam Yuri

  • @bathilra5364
    @bathilra5364 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Psyspam is my favorite archetype to use in vgc because smacking both opponents with stupid damage is so fun

  • @phillipanderson7899
    @phillipanderson7899 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey I just thought of something. If you ever want an endgame, you could always have it be about the superstitions people have towards stem topics, where the Zodiac Beasts are something people fear and spread stories about as something insane and impossible, and the end game is to essentially study and show how these Stema are also explainable phenomenon

  • @mrguyyy
    @mrguyyy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The evil goat uses psychic terrain to drain the emotions of all those who walk

  • @first_8_digits_of_Pi
    @first_8_digits_of_Pi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ah yes the tapus, my favourite legendary quartet. koko, fini, rillaboom and lele, they are all unique and fun :)

  • @gypsysprite4824
    @gypsysprite4824 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:44 From what I can tell, Gen 2 as a format was slow paced enough that some pokemon could afford the turn to set the weather (I think atleast one pokemon, maybe Skarm, used Sandstorm?)

  • @escorpiwall
    @escorpiwall 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Then we have Pokemon Masters, with weather, terrains and ZONES, all of which can be active at once, which is just insane
    Funnily enough, the only battlefield condition not in the game is misty terrain. Even they forgot about it

    • @escorpiwall
      @escorpiwall 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh and the zones are all for types whose attacks aren't boosted by weather or terrains, so i guess it makes sense. Still, a lot to keep track of (especially with other stuff like reflect, light screen, move gauge acceleration, damage fields, etc)

  • @wakkaseta8351
    @wakkaseta8351 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yu-Gi-Oh would still fit into you comparison. I forget when exactly, but there was a rule change long ago that made it so that each player can have their own Field Spell active instead of playing the weather wars game, so you can have 2 field effects happening simultaneously like in Pokemon. And that's before getting into Continuous Spell cards.

  • @lynxgirlpaws
    @lynxgirlpaws 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I started the video, paused about one second in, only to hear you say "deers" with xerneas on screen. kino.

  • @av1ucla
    @av1ucla 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video was amazing and I think a lava or glacier or a wetland and finnaly tornado,hirancane and dust devils

  • @oe8502
    @oe8502 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you can have a windy terrain instead of a terrain that is casual, after all these things worked on wind, kind of like deltastream that mega ray had, and also air lock that normal rayquaza has, however air lock can just be reimagined as a windy terrain that blows away the weather, but this isn't essentially a terrain more of a weather condition, still you can work it like a weather condition that negates all other weather conditions but does nothing else, if other weathers are purely defensive, this ability would serve as an offensive ability because it breaks the defenses of other weather setters

  • @Samsungor
    @Samsungor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tbf Weather was introduced in gen 2 and wasn't really meta until Late gen 4 - gen5. Shout out to Hawlucha who used Seeds to set terrain and Acrobatics/ Unburden to get OU

  • @Ice_Kr3em
    @Ice_Kr3em 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Holy karp gorillaz referance

  • @IronVigilante451
    @IronVigilante451 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I HEARD IT! RIGHT BEHIND YOU!

  • @shep4184
    @shep4184 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    LOVE that thumbnail

  • @starsilverinfinity
    @starsilverinfinity 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you do add your terrains in the form of "Fields", perhaps treat them somewhat similarly to how they behave irl (iirc atleast) and allow each Field to overlap in one match - however by attuning your Stema to a specific field you improve your resistance too Stema using the others, abit like how on the more fundamental level each of the fundamental forces have different levels of pull on certain particles, so some dont really care about the others until they are mitigated by distance or strength.
    Say you put down an EM field and your opponent generates a gravimetric one. You could perhaps use a move that gives your Stema a negative or positive charge, making them more attracted to the EM field and thus take less damage (perhaps with a drawback so its not as simple as pick one move to reduce damage and move on). Or perhaps its a trait of certain Stema so they can drop in and move on. Would also mean there could be capabilities based around disabling, stealing, etc your opponents field, attunement, etc.
    The choice for negative and positive in stead of just saying "charge" was also a purposeful choice cause one could perhaps add subdivisions to each field that a few moves/traits/etc could play by for niche but interesting interactions for the Stema that have them (like you could have a positive EM field and negatively charge your STEMA so they're slower but gain defense, or positively charge them so they gain priority but lose speed (due to being shoved towards their opponents attacks, ie harder to dodge or maintain position)

  • @BullyBeetle
    @BullyBeetle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Never clicked so fast to comment on a vid, the thumbnail is straight fire!!!

  • @beanburrito4405
    @beanburrito4405 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    God tier thumbnail

  • @johndoe9343
    @johndoe9343 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    25:18 idk how the scene is now (Smogon formats or VGC), but I'm pretty sure Miraidon saw competitive play once someone innovated Volt Switch over Electro Drift due to Terrain Wars shutting down Electric Terrain frequently.

  • @igormendonca4026
    @igormendonca4026 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You could make it so that Sunny/Rainy weather affects Pyro types Attack or Sp. Attack stat instead of moves to keep the symmetry
    another suggestion is that if you make the weather mechanic about stats, then you can make the field mechanic about moves, example you could make so Gravitational field that allows grounded moves to hit airborne stemas, or you could make so Electromagnetic field boosts Electric and or Steel type moves (sorry forgot the names you gave them in Stema), or you could have Electric field and Magnetic field as two separate fields that boost each move types, or you could lean into this "fields don't override each other" to make some mechanic were multiple different fields can stack, or make it so only some fields can stack, but others don't, or if you could make so stacking different fields change their properties like maybe Electic and Magnetic fields give a 50% boost to Electric and Steel types respectively, but when they stack, it turns into an Electromagnetic field that boost moves of both types by 30%

  • @gameyfirebro9645
    @gameyfirebro9645 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What about Water Sport and Mud Sport, they're another weather-adjacent effect that's even more underrated!