Based on your test the $25 pin actually dropped the power of first shot and didn't give you any more shots. Basically a waste of $35. Thanks for the experiment. I bought one haven't put it in cuz my hdp50 doesn't hold the air at all. Basically a brand new hdp50 on the 21st shot blew out the seal I replaced it and it doesn't work at all anymore . Wasted about $2"0 after ammo and co2. Thanks mated. Power is in the barrel. Cool thanks for done quality I do. I bought a pin from the advertisement says plus 25joules. It also says no returns now I know why. Cuz it doesn't do jack shit but make you less lethal pistol r en more less lethal
Vidéo très Intéressante … Run a fait le même midifications sur un HDP50 mais avec un canon plus long et il atteint près de 30j pendant 5 shoot !! Bizarre que ce soit le canon seulement qui donne autant de puissance !!! Bizarre Bizarre !
So with the HomeDefence-24 Modify Pin the thing has less power? That doesn't speak well of this product, especially when his web page for it uses words like: improvement; extreme power; and achieve maximum performance. Turns out it is NOT an improvement, there's NOT extreme power, and it does NOT achieve maximum performance. Frankly, I don't see with these dismal results how he can advertise this product. P.S. Thanks for the tip on Less Lethal 777.
If i honestly had to describe it i wouldnt call it a loss but also not improvement on the hdp 50. The numbers were so close that its almost negligible but ppl only ever focus on the highest numbers.
power in the 💥barel!! i think sometimes they wear out faster from full deletes. i have an 11j hdR _intact block_ but a performance barel & i get over 25j w/ skirted ammo. (homemade devastator type 3.6 g)
Interessante video...🎉 complimenti... però la differenza è minima,forse migliorerà la precisione e sicuramente lavora meglio con un buon restrittore magari allargato ...in grado di fare più di 12 scatti😊
Awesome shooting test bro! I just ordered an HDP-50 with extra pepper balls and powder balls for practice and I already have an HDR-50 HDR-68 and HDS-68.
some say that umarex cart.s are a milly longer. it looks like it might work if everything is perfect but cart.s will vary. the other thing is the 2nd run started lower & it could have been the crosman cart. as they have been reported under filled lately- i have some. i would try again w/ an Ux cart.
I've been looking at this but if you read all the comments on Amazon and wherever else they all say at jams on the 2nd or 3rd shot. Something to do with the spring not being strong enough
I have been informed this was specific to the hdr and that this pin resolves that issue but only for hdr soni am waiting for some others to test it out.
Sean was thinking of putting a small washer in front of firing pin on the tpx! So bigger build up of pressure has less co3 is lost out of the front maybe making the bolt hit harder!! What you think!! Still watching not touching yet till I think I understand how the platform operates 👍
In a Tipx there is no pressure against the firing pin until the internal spool valve opens. The Tipx is different than how most blow forward markers work. Similar principle but the way the air moves through the valve is whats different.
I originally tried steel bearing in the factory barrel in an earlier video and it tore the seal and deformed the barrel so you wont see that test again unless its a diy barrel. Previously with factory barrel i only got 16j with 8.35g ball bearings.
@@lesslethalfordummies did you use as Iron balls the "VOLV precision balls" as LL777 has mentioned (in the comments)? I guess maybe getting more power, or otherwise just catastrophic barrel damages (😢), could be due to tinny differences in prejectile diameters.
@@rafael.frigori i am using those exact balls. They just dont play nice with the factory detent/barrel. They do however work fine with an aftermarket barrel such as 777s
I noticed my HDP 50 recocks very slowly. Takes about 5-10 seconds for it. I used some very heavy silicone grease when assembled it, that's the only thing I can think of causing it. It seems like it doesn't desolves either using silicone spray. Guessing I have to take it apart AGAIN using some brake cleaner or something on every part. What do you think? Experienced something similar?
@@H-M-78i would clean all the old grease off and redo it. Be sure to put a drop of silicone oil on each co2. Do not use brake clean to clean it out. That will damage orings. Just a rag is sufficient.
@lesslethalfordummies I tried wiping off the valve and outside of that "black anodised thing" but I think there's some grease left on the valve pin etc. This CRC grease is like I said very sticky and probably not good for airguns at all. You recommended silicone oil didn't you? But not aerosols/spray cannister?
It would seem they are neck and neck and really boils down to the finer details on which marker is more powerful but you cant forget the large 68cal dumps alot of energy before penetration could occur compared to a smaller 50cal.
@@lesslethalfordummies I must try that balls, because i have problem with the aluminium balls. They get stuck and dont want to roll in the mag. I think it are the surface..realy weird. They weight 2.9gram..that first bullit its not a problem, real good power. The only balls with the right surface, is the Polyballs 1.78gram. Fire all 6, without problem.
@@antisocialsecret7584 i dont think they are enough for the factory barrel but they work good with the tuning barrel which is a little smaller. I bought these from riot balls USA. Which country are you located?
I think the winner was Home defense 24 Lol I wish I had Sean Money 😎 I live on the cheap because you take the time for all of us THANK YOU
Work hard, play hard. I am glad it helps you guys out….also keeps me entertained.
Based on your test the $25 pin actually dropped the power of first shot and didn't give you any more shots. Basically a waste of $35. Thanks for the experiment. I bought one haven't put it in cuz my hdp50 doesn't hold the air at all. Basically a brand new hdp50 on the 21st shot blew out the seal I replaced it and it doesn't work at all anymore . Wasted about $2"0 after ammo and co2. Thanks mated. Power is in the barrel. Cool thanks for done quality I do. I bought a pin from the advertisement says plus 25joules. It also says no returns now I know why. Cuz it doesn't do jack shit but make you less lethal pistol r en more less lethal
Some swear by them. My tests showed it does zilch zero nada.
Vidéo très Intéressante …
Run a fait le même midifications sur un HDP50 mais avec un canon plus long et il atteint près de 30j pendant 5 shoot !!
Bizarre que ce soit le canon seulement qui donne autant de puissance !!!
Bizarre Bizarre !
Every marker can behave a little differently especially when using co2.
So with the HomeDefence-24 Modify Pin the thing has less power? That doesn't speak well of this product, especially when his web page for it uses words like: improvement; extreme power; and achieve maximum performance. Turns out it is NOT an improvement, there's NOT extreme power, and it does NOT achieve maximum performance.
Frankly, I don't see with these dismal results how he can advertise this product.
P.S. Thanks for the tip on Less Lethal 777.
If i honestly had to describe it i wouldnt call it a loss but also not improvement on the hdp 50. The numbers were so close that its almost negligible but ppl only ever focus on the highest numbers.
power in the 💥barel!! i think sometimes they wear out faster from full deletes. i have an 11j hdR _intact block_ but a performance barel & i get over 25j w/ skirted ammo. (homemade devastator type 3.6 g)
Skirted ammo is definetly another animal when searching for higher power but only roundball for the hdp.
I know. I meant to just say how much a barrel can help :-)
I will recommend your channel to my friends
Thank you!
Interessante video...🎉 complimenti... però la differenza è minima,forse migliorerà la precisione e sicuramente lavora meglio con un buon restrittore magari allargato ...in grado di fare più di 12 scatti😊
Yes the difference if any was not detectable. If anything i have an extra pin now.
Awesome shooting test bro! I just ordered an HDP-50 with extra pepper balls and powder balls for practice and I already have an HDR-50 HDR-68 and HDS-68.
You will enjoy it it’s actually quite small.
@@lesslethalfordummies awesome bro
Very entertaining demo.
👍🏼
Nice video. Great test 😃👍
Thanks Rune!
some say that umarex cart.s are a milly longer. it looks like it might work if everything is perfect but cart.s will vary. the other thing is the 2nd run started lower & it could have been the crosman cart. as they have been reported under filled lately- i have some. i would try again w/ an Ux cart.
Hmmmm cart length could definetly play a part never thought about that.
As suspected no particular improvement in consistency or power. Great test though 👍
Thanks Anna!
I've been looking at this but if you read all the comments on Amazon and wherever else they all say at jams on the 2nd or 3rd shot. Something to do with the spring not being strong enough
I have been informed this was specific to the hdr and that this pin resolves that issue but only for hdr soni am waiting for some others to test it out.
Sean was thinking of putting a small washer in front of firing pin on the tpx! So bigger build up of pressure has less co3 is lost out of the front maybe making the bolt hit harder!! What you think!! Still watching not touching yet till I think I understand how the platform operates 👍
In a Tipx there is no pressure against the firing pin until the internal spool valve opens. The Tipx is different than how most blow forward markers work. Similar principle but the way the air moves through the valve is whats different.
7:12 "disperses" - but Mihai's "spreads" may be more precise?
Atomizes was the word i was searching for.
Cool! Can you try Iron balls with this factory barrel? Then that would be interesting to cross-check your results with "777"...
I originally tried steel bearing in the factory barrel in an earlier video and it tore the seal and deformed the barrel so you wont see that test again unless its a diy barrel. Previously with factory barrel i only got 16j with 8.35g ball bearings.
@@lesslethalfordummies did you use as Iron balls the "VOLV precision balls" as LL777 has mentioned (in the comments)? I guess maybe getting more power, or otherwise just catastrophic barrel damages (😢), could be due to tinny differences in prejectile diameters.
@@rafael.frigori i am using those exact balls. They just dont play nice with the factory detent/barrel. They do however work fine with an aftermarket barrel such as 777s
I actually broke one with steel balls.
Eager to see if theres any improvement with the pin on the HDR50 or 68. Got a pin on the way 😕
I do not have an Hdr to test but am also looking forward to some testing. Zram did some limited testing in his recent video.
It's possible to modify HDP 50 to more than 20 joules?
It’s quite easy with a ZChamber.
Looks pretty powerfull getting 20J. Seems very loud . What stops the balls in that trap?
This is an older video where i was using Kevlar twill. The newer vids i am using red ballistic nylon.
I noticed my HDP 50 recocks very slowly. Takes about 5-10 seconds for it. I used some very heavy silicone grease when assembled it, that's the only thing I can think of causing it.
It seems like it doesn't desolves either using silicone spray. Guessing I have to take it apart AGAIN using some brake cleaner or something on every part.
What do you think? Experienced something similar?
@@H-M-78i would clean all the old grease off and redo it. Be sure to put a drop of silicone oil on each co2. Do not use brake clean to clean it out. That will damage orings. Just a rag is sufficient.
@lesslethalfordummies I tried wiping off the valve and outside of that "black anodised thing" but I think there's some grease left on the valve pin etc. This CRC grease is like I said very sticky and probably not good for airguns at all.
You recommended silicone oil didn't you? But not aerosols/spray cannister?
If I'm not make it work again it will be a parts gun. I bought two of these and one performance barrel. The other one is untouched...still
My Hdp 50 is more powerful than my hdr68 it seems
It would seem they are neck and neck and really boils down to the finer details on which marker is more powerful but you cant forget the large 68cal dumps alot of energy before penetration could occur compared to a smaller 50cal.
I have one, Originally it held 6. For some reason its only holding 5 rounds know. Would anyone know why? Thanks in advance.
Its possible the gate slipped from the trigger impeding the space. Have you taken it apart yet?
@@lesslethalfordummiesThanks, if I have time this weekend. I'll check into what you mentioned.
@@jrhjrh9372 keep me posted. Helps build a knowledge base for known issues.
@@lesslethalfordummies hi, I finally took it apart today and removed the valve block. I did notice the 6 round. It was almost fully chambered.
@@jrhjrh9372 so you had a round jammed inside?
7:12 is "spreads" the word you're looking for? Also, sad it doesn't give 25+ joules as advertised. Just another scam I guess.
Do not remove restrictor?
My 7.5j Hdp only had a valve block. 11j has no block but had a co2 restrictor.
I have see others videos with hdr50 they remove restrictor for more jules
The hdr50 will likely stutter and fart with the restrictor removed.
What material are the bullets made of and weight ?
50cal 3.5g riot balls are steel bearings pvc coated and measure an actual 12.4mm diameter.
@@lesslethalfordummies
I must try that balls, because i have problem with the aluminium balls.
They get stuck and dont want to roll in the mag.
I think it are the surface..realy weird.
They weight 2.9gram..that first bullit its not a problem, real good power.
The only balls with the right surface, is the Polyballs 1.78gram.
Fire all 6, without problem.
@@antisocialsecret7584 the pvc riot balls have a very slick shiny plastic surface but have a steel ball inside. They have given me no problems.
@@lesslethalfordummies
Where did you buy them ?
Are the 12.4mm enough..I mean that 12.5mm are the std size..
@@antisocialsecret7584 i dont think they are enough for the factory barrel but they work good with the tuning barrel which is a little smaller. I bought these from riot balls USA. Which country are you located?