I cannot thank you enough for making this video I have an HDP50 and have been wanting to install the barrel for about a month now and now I can finally do it thank you are awesome though you are awesome brother
awesome man with the magnet, perfect for steel balls, im gonna try this for my 25 rd rifle set up, all i did was use a longer spring with a lil more power for all the extra rds but i believe this is the best way totally genius :)
Thanks for all of your time working out solutions for the HDP50. What exactly do I need to do in order to be able to shoot the 12.7mm steel bearings ? Thank you
Hey My friend, do you know where i can get a small extension barrel for my t4e Glock 17 gen 5 marker or even if they make one? Mag mod has been done... Any info would help thanks and great content keep it up!
I am not aware of any longer barrels. There was a place printing compensators and extended mags but i haven’t heard anyone successfully getting through to them.
Pardon my inability to comprehend, but what is the purpose of the magnet? Is it to pull/lift the steel ball round into the chamber because steel ball bearing rounds are too heavy to flow from the tube magazine into a firing position? I'm all in if that's the case because I am using Amazon ball bearings in all my Umarex markers.
i took valveblock out and it was working great then one shot one day and all the air just shot out the barrel at once. Every new co2, soon as i puncture its shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh and whole co2 emptied. Have you any clue what has happened
That is the small oring at the tip of the air valve. Many refer to it as the heatcore oring. Replace that and you’ll be good to go again. Need to oil every single co2.
Will the Valken O ring work with the factory spring. I’m thinking of preforming this. It’s also cheaper than buying the power kit? Also do you think that same Valken O ring may work on an HDR50?
The Valken oring as a bumper does work with the factory spring as i do use it in my other Hdp 50 and yes it will also fit as a substitute on all the Umarex air chambers. Honestly i didnt detect and notable difference in velocity using the bumper but it is a much more durable material then the soft silicone Umarex one.
I wonder if this is the VIDEO you reccomended lol, I bought this on mcsus along with a bunch of adapters for the 88g 90g and an HPA Tank and a coil line. but the main thing is the HDP 50 The pOWERKIT that claims 15-30j + Tuning barrel that gives 30 to 40J as they claim but you NEED BOTH of these. So I hope it really hits 40J with alumnium .50 balls. I know I watched your other videos your hitting 100 joules with a sniper rifle looking build??? I just need atleast 50 joules with the gun looking like that factory with the tuning barrel so a little long barrel and remove restrictor add the power kit and of course i said the barrel... Also will add the barrel cover so it wont look weird and also....... Thats all I know to mod.. then theres the back of the gun brass thing ZRAM has an extender that goes there and puts +8joules which is crazy I can get 48 joulese without having a crazy looking modded gun, then Ill add an HPA tank then itll look alittle big...... unless I add abuttstock then itll look like a mini SMG I guess thats my goal tho atleat 50-60js with barely any mods and making the gun super LONG.
Just finished video great information and mods how to install ETC, do you know how to get black version? Or should I just remove slide and all components in the slide and spray paint it with paint spray cans? maybe krylon matte? IDK are most guns black matte? even the metal? Is the HDP orange slide METAL? like the T4E markers? I know the T4E .43 MARKERS are metal sliders I think aluminium slides though.
I would skip the power kit it is not necessary. Double deleted using an 88/90g or will send you above 40j no problem if you are running a tuning barrel w/extension. The orange slide is easily permanently colored black using RitDye from the craft store. There are a few videos of Hdp50 being dyed. I think Jon over at Complete Technologies Solutions did a how to vid.
@@lesslethalfordummies Interesting I could of used my 45$ for something else then than the power kit weird, why does everyone buy it? It doesn't do much I guess if your telling me since you got some serious crazy builds damn... well now I got the HDP coming and a VALKEN CQMF, both super moddable im going to have tons of fun but now I need to find the SPRING for the vALKEN17 CQMF to up the joules that everyone talks about I think its on home defense when the website chooses to work they are sellin it for 6$ I think and also the BARREL for either 45$ or 100-200$
I added some washers and still won't cycle the steel balls. Is the anything else i need to do internally? I have removed the valve block, and it's a 7 5 us version with no restrictor. Maybe i need to play around with how many washers i use to reach a certain length ?
Try loading a couple of steel balls with no co2. Pull the trigger but at the same time use your other hand to pull back on the spring follower slightly. Does the round cycle?
@@lesslethalfordummies yes if I load 2 balls and pull back on follower a few millimeters, the trigger will cycle. If I put 3 balls in, I have to pull follower back a little further and most of the time trigger will get stuck back and not travel forward to rest position without giggling follower back and forth. I have tried a few different combinations of stacks of nylon washers ranging from 2.5mm to 4mm's and all do same thing. I am using PGN 12.7mm 8.4 gram steel ball bearings sold on Amazon. I currently have 3 - HDP50'S I purchased for myself and a couple friends. All have valve blocks removed, all have no restrictors in C02 grip frame, all have stock detents and stock battles. I am waiting for home defense 24 to come off of inventory and processing orders again to order 3 bartels. Should I add a neodymium magnet even though they have stock detents still ? I have made PEX detents for when tuning barrel's get delivered.
Not loading steel balls has a lot to do with the thickness of the factory detent. Try the magnet with the factory detent you may be able to hold the following ball in s better position for the loading gate to close. That silver half moon shaped gate is where the larger steel balls jam. You can also reprofile the loading gate if you are handy with a dremel. I found 12.5mm balls cycle without any of the 12.7 issues they just arent as readily available. Add washers to the follower spring is done to prevent the follower from latching during a firing cycle. If it latches all your balls fall out the bottom. You can test your pex with the factory barrel and see how they perform with the magnets of course.
No man you are not mistaken. My camera totally crapped the bed during the original video of how to remove the block i do apologize that i was never able to do a video myself. There are lots of videos on how to do it already but the jyst of it you must remove the brass cap at the rear of the valve and pluck the block out or knock it out from the front with a thin screwdriver or the like.
@@lesslethalfordummies ITS THE SAME FOR BLOWGUNS ALSO ,THE LONGER THE BARREL ,THE MORE POWER ! THATS WHY THOSE 10 OR 12 FT BLOWGUNS USED IN THE JUNGLES ARE SO POWERFUL TO TAKE GAME OUT OF HIGH TREES !
QUESTION ,,,,,,, IF YOU WENT TO HARBOR FRIGHT LOL AND GOT A TAP AND DYE TO FIT THESE BARRELS , TECHNICALLY ,COULD YOU PUT THREADS ON THE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF THESE BARREL SO YOU CAN JOIN 2,3,4 SECTIONS TOGETHER ? SOMETHING LIKE THE ONES FROM HOME DEFENSE 24 DOES ? . I HAVE INVENTED SO MANY THINGS FOR AIRGUN ,FISHING AND ARCHERY , IM ALWAYS THINKING LOL . I JUST HAD 2 IDEAS COME IN ,1., YOU CAN MAKE SABOTS OUT OD SOLID PLASTIC RODS , ALUMINUM,COPPER EVEN WOODEN DOWELS AS LONG AS THEY ARE .500 1/2 INCH DIAMETER . NOW ONCE CUT TO LENTH , USE A 1,2 OR SO SOCKET TO PLACE ON TOP ,YOU WILL NOTICE SQUARE HOLD ,ROUND IT OUT ,THAT WAY YOU HAVE A JIG TO START DRILLING INTO YOUR RODS A PERFECTLY CENTERED HOLE , THEN DROP IN THE PERFECT WHAT EVER SIZED STEEL BALL IN CENTER AND WAH LAH , YOU GOT HOMEMADE SLUGS ... NOW SECOND IDEA , GET YOU A MAG YOU CAN USE FOR MAKING SLUGS/AMMO WITH . GREASE ALL THE HOLES WITH SILICONE GREASE , NOW FILL THE HOLES JUST RIGHT WITH SILICONE CAULK , JB WELD ,PLASTIC OR SOME OTHER FAST DRYING SUBSTANCE ,EVEN MAKING WAX BULLETS ETC. IF YOURE MAKING WAX BULLETS ,JUST MELT WAX IN HOLES , LET COOL AND PUT IN GUN AND SHOOT , ALSO PUT SOME # 6,7 1/2 , 8 OR # 9 SHOOT LEAD BB'S FROM SHELLS IN THE WAX FOR ADDED WEIGHT AND EFFECTIVENESS !!! MAKE SURE TO PUT AS MANY BB'S AS YOU CAN ,THE MORE THE MERRIER !!! , YOU WILL THEN HAVE AMMO THAT COMES OUT IN MANY PIECES . NOW IDEA NUMBER 3 . , USE 1/2 INCH SOCKETS TO MAKE AMMO , POUR WAX,PLASTICS ,GLUES , LEAD IN THEM ,YOU CAN USE 6,8,OR 12 SIDED SOCKETS FOR THAT RIPPLING RIFLED LOOK . SO I HAVE NOT DONE THESE IDEAS YET , BUT PLAN ON TO SOON , IT WILL BE TRIAL AND ERRA BUT EVENTUALLY I WILL COME UP WITH SOME SUPERIOR AMMO . OH ONE MORE IDEA ,EXPLODING SLUGS ??? LOL SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHATDOYOUTHINK ? ITS WORTH LOOKING INTO OR NOT ???
😂 geez. You are as crazy as me. In short my idea was using the magnet and just filling the tube with bbs much like many airsoft or bb full autos. The magnet would gather a certain number of bbs based on its strength and then just launch them not unlike bird shot from 18ga shotty.
@@lesslethalfordummies IT STARTED WITH 2 ,THEN 3,4,NOW WITH YOU ADDED TO THE MIX OF ALL TIME GREATS ,MY 5 GOTO GUYS ,I ASK YOU TO RE-READ THAT LONG COMMENT AND TELL ME IF YOU LIKE SOME OF MY IDEAS MY BROTHER .YOUR OPINION MATTERS TO ME BRO !!!
Thanks for the headsup. That factory slider is some seriously shoddy Horde craftsmanship. It keeps jamming when I go to shoot it. "OPEN THE GATES" Me when trying to fire the hdp50
I experimented with many wraps of electrical tape first and it did work very well i might add but was just temporary until pex came along. Its some trial and error to get it to fit right but its damn durable.
I cannot thank you enough for making this video I have an HDP50 and have been wanting to install the barrel for about a month now and now I can finally do it thank you are awesome though you are awesome brother
Welcome!
Great videos! Just what I want to know and no butchering working on the gun. Just bought two of these. (7,5J EU model, black slide,)
New subscriber 👍
Welcome! Lucky you get the black versions. We get stuck using dye to get them black.
awesome man with the magnet, perfect for steel balls, im gonna try this for my 25 rd rifle set up, all i did was use a longer spring with a lil more power for all the extra rds but i believe this is the best way totally genius :)
Thanks took a page from your book.
Very smart and educational tutorial Sir Fox 👏😘
Thanks for all of your time working out solutions for the HDP50. What exactly do I need to do in order to be able to shoot the 12.7mm steel bearings ? Thank you
"It just works." Well sorta but not that well.
Hey My friend, do you know where i can get a small extension barrel for my t4e Glock 17 gen 5 marker or even if they make one? Mag mod has been done... Any info would help thanks and great content keep it up!
I am not aware of any longer barrels. There was a place printing compensators and extended mags but i haven’t heard anyone successfully getting through to them.
You can see one end of the lock pins is smaller. The right is smaller than the left.
Pardon my inability to comprehend, but what is the purpose of the magnet? Is it to pull/lift the steel ball round into the chamber because steel ball bearing rounds are too heavy to flow from the tube magazine into a firing position? I'm all in if that's the case because I am using Amazon ball bearings in all my Umarex markers.
With the diy barrel you loose the factory detent/seal so yes the magnet pulls and holds the ball in the firing position.
i took valveblock out and it was working great then one shot one day and all the air just shot out the barrel at once. Every new co2, soon as i puncture its shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh and whole co2 emptied. Have you any clue what has happened
That is the small oring at the tip of the air valve. Many refer to it as the heatcore oring. Replace that and you’ll be good to go again. Need to oil every single co2.
Can this loader work well without upgrading to the high power first? I would assume so, but I figure it's worth checking first
The magnets?
Will the Valken O ring work with the factory spring. I’m thinking of preforming this. It’s also cheaper than buying the power kit?
Also do you think that same Valken O ring may work on an HDR50?
The Valken oring as a bumper does work with the factory spring as i do use it in my other Hdp 50 and yes it will also fit as a substitute on all the Umarex air chambers. Honestly i didnt detect and notable difference in velocity using the bumper but it is a much more durable material then the soft silicone Umarex one.
@@lesslethalfordummies thank you I appreciate it.
You get that pen halfway through and then you're like gosh s*** I'm going the wrong way
Many times 😂
Great video 😃👍
Thank you sir.
I wonder if this is the VIDEO you reccomended lol, I bought this on mcsus along with a bunch of adapters for the 88g 90g and an HPA Tank and a coil line. but the main thing is the HDP 50 The pOWERKIT that claims 15-30j + Tuning barrel that gives 30 to 40J as they claim but you NEED BOTH of these. So I hope it really hits 40J with alumnium .50 balls. I know I watched your other videos your hitting 100 joules with a sniper rifle looking build??? I just need atleast 50 joules with the gun looking like that factory with the tuning barrel so a little long barrel and remove restrictor add the power kit and of course i said the barrel... Also will add the barrel cover so it wont look weird and also....... Thats all I know to mod.. then theres the back of the gun brass thing ZRAM has an extender that goes there and puts +8joules which is crazy I can get 48 joulese without having a crazy looking modded gun, then Ill add an HPA tank then itll look alittle big...... unless I add abuttstock then itll look like a mini SMG I guess thats my goal tho atleat 50-60js with barely any mods and making the gun super LONG.
Just finished video great information and mods how to install ETC, do you know how to get black version? Or should I just remove slide and all components in the slide and spray paint it with paint spray cans? maybe krylon matte? IDK are most guns black matte? even the metal? Is the HDP orange slide METAL? like the T4E markers? I know the T4E .43 MARKERS are metal sliders I think aluminium slides though.
I would skip the power kit it is not necessary. Double deleted using an 88/90g or will send you above 40j no problem if you are running a tuning barrel w/extension.
The orange slide is easily permanently colored black using RitDye from the craft store. There are a few videos of Hdp50 being dyed. I think Jon over at Complete Technologies Solutions did a how to vid.
@@lesslethalfordummies Interesting I could of used my 45$ for something else then than the power kit weird, why does everyone buy it? It doesn't do much I guess if your telling me since you got some serious crazy builds damn... well now I got the HDP coming and a VALKEN CQMF, both super moddable im going to have tons of fun but now I need to find the SPRING for the vALKEN17 CQMF to up the joules that everyone talks about I think its on home defense when the website chooses to work they are sellin it for 6$ I think and also the BARREL for either 45$ or 100-200$
Thanks
Very welcome sir.
I added some washers and still won't cycle the steel balls. Is the anything else i need to do internally? I have removed the valve block, and it's a 7 5 us version with no restrictor. Maybe i need to play around with how many washers i use to reach a certain length ?
Try loading a couple of steel balls with no co2. Pull the trigger but at the same time use your other hand to pull back on the spring follower slightly.
Does the round cycle?
@@lesslethalfordummies yes if I load 2 balls and pull back on follower a few millimeters, the trigger will cycle. If I put 3 balls in, I have to pull follower back a little further and most of the time trigger will get stuck back and not travel forward to rest position without giggling follower back and forth. I have tried a few different combinations of stacks of nylon washers ranging from 2.5mm to 4mm's and all do same thing. I am using PGN 12.7mm 8.4 gram steel ball bearings sold on Amazon. I currently have 3 - HDP50'S I purchased for myself and a couple friends. All have valve blocks removed, all have no restrictors in C02 grip frame, all have stock detents and stock battles. I am waiting for home defense 24 to come off of inventory and processing orders again to order 3 bartels. Should I add a neodymium magnet even though they have stock detents still ? I have made PEX detents for when tuning barrel's get delivered.
Thank you for responding to my question!!
Not loading steel balls has a lot to do with the thickness of the factory detent.
Try the magnet with the factory detent you may be able to hold the following ball in s better position for the loading gate to close. That silver half moon shaped gate is where the larger steel balls jam.
You can also reprofile the loading gate if you are handy with a dremel.
I found 12.5mm balls cycle without any of the 12.7 issues they just arent as readily available.
Add washers to the follower spring is done to prevent the follower from latching during a firing cycle. If it latches all your balls fall out the bottom.
You can test your pex with the factory barrel and see how they perform with the magnets of course.
I ordered some 12.5mm ball bearings, should be delivered Tuesday. Should I shim the follower spring with the 12.5mm also ?
Thank you
All that and we still don't know how to remove the valve block I don't get it did I miss something did he actually say how to do that
No man you are not mistaken. My camera totally crapped the bed during the original video of how to remove the block i do apologize that i was never able to do a video myself. There are lots of videos on how to do it already but the jyst of it you must remove the brass cap at the rear of the valve and pluck the block out or knock it out from the front with a thin screwdriver or the like.
@@lesslethalfordummies right on bro I appreciate that by the way I must admit I like the video and I did give a like
@@James-tb8mj Awesome thank you.
You know I took that pin out every time every damn time I've opened that gun I've took that pin out LOL
Very cool very cool video man pretty cool magnet
You ever forget the follower LOL I forget it all the damn time and I'll be like oh s*** got to take all the screws back out
I got a steel barrel I don't know if I can do the magnet thing
I'll be waiting man I'll cut mine
Plenty of times and it super annoying
thank you sir
genious
Most welcome
What size is this magnet, length and thickness? I was about to buy some but still not sure wich size.
Sorry I didn’t mention the size. I found a 3mm x 10mm magnet was about as big as i could fit without interfere with the fitment of the upper.
@@lesslethalfordummiesI HAVE SEEN THESE MAGNETS AT HOME DEPOT AND LOWES ALSO !
@@rick31869 just search neodymium on Amazon or use pillage your magnet car phone mount they are full of magnets.
@@lesslethalfordummies AWEMOME MY BROTHER , THANKS !
With an Extended barrel, Do you get more joules?
Barrel length is probably the number one contributor to an increase in fps in all markers.
@@lesslethalfordummies ITS THE SAME FOR BLOWGUNS ALSO ,THE LONGER THE BARREL ,THE MORE POWER ! THATS WHY THOSE 10 OR 12 FT BLOWGUNS USED IN THE JUNGLES ARE SO POWERFUL TO TAKE GAME OUT OF HIGH TREES !
You could put an 8 foot barrel for maximum power.
😂 some people do.
Not to quibble, but what you are calling the "upper receiver" in gun nomenclature is called the "slide."
I realized that mistakes were made after but no one cares. This is your brain after 20 hour work days.
QUESTION ,,,,,,, IF YOU WENT TO HARBOR FRIGHT LOL AND GOT A TAP AND DYE TO FIT THESE BARRELS , TECHNICALLY ,COULD YOU PUT THREADS ON THE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF THESE BARREL SO YOU CAN JOIN 2,3,4 SECTIONS TOGETHER ? SOMETHING LIKE THE ONES FROM HOME DEFENSE 24 DOES ? .
I HAVE INVENTED SO MANY THINGS FOR AIRGUN ,FISHING AND ARCHERY , IM ALWAYS THINKING LOL . I JUST HAD 2 IDEAS COME IN ,1., YOU CAN MAKE SABOTS OUT OD SOLID PLASTIC RODS , ALUMINUM,COPPER EVEN WOODEN DOWELS AS LONG AS THEY ARE .500 1/2 INCH DIAMETER .
NOW ONCE CUT TO LENTH , USE A 1,2 OR SO SOCKET TO PLACE ON TOP ,YOU WILL NOTICE SQUARE HOLD ,ROUND IT OUT ,THAT WAY YOU HAVE A JIG TO START DRILLING INTO YOUR RODS A PERFECTLY CENTERED HOLE , THEN DROP IN THE PERFECT WHAT EVER SIZED STEEL BALL IN CENTER AND WAH LAH , YOU GOT HOMEMADE SLUGS ...
NOW SECOND IDEA , GET YOU A MAG YOU CAN USE FOR MAKING SLUGS/AMMO WITH . GREASE ALL THE HOLES WITH SILICONE GREASE , NOW FILL THE HOLES JUST RIGHT WITH SILICONE CAULK , JB WELD ,PLASTIC OR SOME OTHER FAST DRYING SUBSTANCE ,EVEN MAKING WAX BULLETS ETC. IF YOURE MAKING WAX BULLETS ,JUST MELT WAX IN HOLES , LET COOL AND PUT IN GUN AND SHOOT , ALSO PUT SOME # 6,7 1/2 , 8 OR # 9 SHOOT LEAD BB'S FROM SHELLS IN THE WAX FOR ADDED WEIGHT AND EFFECTIVENESS !!!
MAKE SURE TO PUT AS MANY BB'S AS YOU CAN ,THE MORE THE MERRIER !!! , YOU WILL THEN HAVE AMMO THAT COMES OUT IN MANY PIECES .
NOW IDEA NUMBER 3 . , USE 1/2 INCH SOCKETS TO MAKE AMMO , POUR WAX,PLASTICS ,GLUES , LEAD IN THEM ,YOU CAN USE 6,8,OR 12 SIDED SOCKETS FOR THAT RIPPLING RIFLED LOOK .
SO I HAVE NOT DONE THESE IDEAS YET , BUT PLAN ON TO SOON , IT WILL BE TRIAL AND ERRA BUT EVENTUALLY I WILL COME UP WITH SOME SUPERIOR AMMO .
OH ONE MORE IDEA ,EXPLODING SLUGS ??? LOL
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHATDOYOUTHINK ? ITS WORTH LOOKING INTO OR NOT ???
😂 geez. You are as crazy as me. In short my idea was using the magnet and just filling the tube with bbs much like many airsoft or bb full autos. The magnet would gather a certain number of bbs based on its strength and then just launch them not unlike bird shot from 18ga shotty.
@@lesslethalfordummies NICE IDEA !
@@lesslethalfordummies IT STARTED WITH 2 ,THEN 3,4,NOW WITH YOU ADDED TO THE MIX OF ALL TIME GREATS ,MY 5 GOTO GUYS ,I ASK YOU TO RE-READ THAT LONG COMMENT AND TELL ME IF YOU LIKE SOME OF MY IDEAS MY BROTHER .YOUR OPINION MATTERS TO ME BRO !!!
I was referring to the auto loader that you sell for $25. I must have responded to the wrong video
Wouldnt be me as i do not sell anything. 👍🏼
Thanks for the headsup. That factory slider is some seriously shoddy Horde craftsmanship. It keeps jamming when I go to shoot it.
"OPEN THE GATES"
Me when trying to fire the hdp50
Glad it helped some. Best course of action is to pick a projectile and stick with it sorting out the little glitches as they happen.
Add an adapter them hpa air tank
I did just that later on in some videos and oh boy! The little marker that could.
u dont have to curse ill do it for u wtfuuuuuuuuugg lol
Oh man I can't keep my 50 the seal I can't keep it sealed LOL
I experimented with many wraps of electrical tape first and it did work very well i might add but was just temporary until pex came along. Its some trial and error to get it to fit right but its damn durable.