The 00 and 01 lakers is def killin the 15 and 16 warriors. The 17 and 18 warriors tho with steph and kd are different animals. I dont think no team is beatin them warriors in a 7 game series.
Ima say 17 warriors in 6 vs 01 lakers. Steph FMVP. Shaq and kob can avg 60-70 combined and it still wouldnt be enough. 01 lakers in 5 tho against 15 or 16 warriors tho. Shaq FMVP.
Gary Payton said it best “ fuck the play give it to Shaq he will score or get double teamed and make the right pass” no one could ever stop prime Shaq in a 7 game series
Shaq is gonna be gassed constantly getting pick n rolled then offensively just get one guy to guard shaq and let him score. After the half he is gonna look like ant against kyrie needing oxygen
@@lilshaan6252He got swept 5 times in the Playoffs in 6 years. '94, '95', '96, '98 and '99. Lost in 5 in '97 and '04. I know he played well in some of those series but in 3 of them he shot under 50% from the floor, which is absolutely pathetic for a big man. I love Shaq but let's not act like he never had bad series.
@@AndrewMolinaro-cr4mk Even when they were winning, they were still vulnerable. 2000: Blazers were up 13 going into the 4th of game 7 and choked. 2002: Kings were up 3-2, lost game 6 by 4 and game 7 in OT. 2003: Spurs beat them 4-2. 2004: As you said, Pistons got a gentleman sweep if not for some Kobe heroics in game 2 to send it to OT. 2001 was the only dominant year.
The game may have developed past ( it's questionable for me tho )the old guard,but,nba ratings have been down for the last 4/5 years.I don't even watch todays nba games,so boring watching guys go to the hoop and defenders get out their way.
The laker wouldn’t know what to do. They would be amazed cuz they would have never seen anything like it. They’ll be leaving Steph and klay open for three until like game 3 and then it’ll be too late
the spacing and ball movement alone from the warriors would sweep the lakers. Steph, Klay, and KD gonna be taking turns running the score up to 150-85.
-- KD GSW should beat the 2000 Lakers. HOWEVER, play under 2000 rules (not 2020), it might be quite different. Shaq employed big defenders b/c team needed bodies to throw at Shaq. So sure, Curry and Klay be reigning down 3s but they would also be in foul trouble. It's just a mismatch for both teams. KD-GSW should prevail but they going need some icy-hot for all 'dem bruises.
Could Shaq stay on the floor for 35 minutes against stretch bigs and offensive switches? Free throws? Spacing? I’m a Laker but I think we could definitely lose that series.
@@idothisforfun1300 that's another team with spacing, free throws, 3pt shooters, etc. The lakers aren't having a chance against that houston team either, steph changed the game to where teams almost have to live or die by the 3ball. Make no 3's? Lose the game.
@@whitebwoi you REALLY think that? Kobe is going OFF on the Rockets and Shaq can literally score on any given possession vs them. The Lakers perimeter defense (Fox, Fisher, Kobe etc) would be a handful for that rockets team
@@idothisforfun1300 do math even though nobody is stopping kd and shaq, they're going for 2's. steph, klay, and kd are going for 3's and nobody is stopping them from getting buckets either especially with what i stated before, ball movement and spacing.
@@HemiBoyJeff_HMB that’s cool but once draymond and looney foul out who settin them screens ? And they runnin the triangle curry and Klay have to guard too 😂
@@JerichoCastille tweakin, its happened in every era. The game hasn’t been played the exact same or officiated the exact same in any era. So what makes the so called old rules the right ones or the so called new ones right? End of the day the game is what it is. Great players will shine regardless
@@FLN_NELL Whatever. Please explain why the NBA is the only level of basketball that has had to completely overhaul basic rules and ignore the application of common rules violations for players to excel?
@@JerichoCastille its not 💀if you look at people who shined towards the end of the "old era" and in the start of the "new era" they still found the exact same success apart from a few people who were on a garbage team and going against like lebron and the cavs in round 1 or smthin. the rules changed because the FANS wanted more shots to go in so hand checking was made illegal. players still shined equally as much 😭 they all just made more baskets. the only people who shined less are the guys who relied on being 50 pounds heavier thahn their opponent and giving their opponents wrist indian burn and tried to hold them still as if basketball was ever meant to be wrestling...everyone who relied on actual SKILL still shined 100000% as much as they did before. go ahead and look at lebron for that if you want. 32+ PPG scorer in '06 and now is 38 putting up 28PPG and 7 and 7. look at kobe. look at dwade. look at dirk. so many all time greats and they played in both era's and did equally as good. sorry that it may be less interesting for you to watch because a random sumo wrestler cant come on the court and lock someone down by grabbing their hands and taking a nap 😭
@@ironflyellis3817 This. Like why tf they gotta worry about Shaq? They got three of the greatest 3-point shooters and KD who’s one of, if not the most talented scorer oat. Lakers got more to worry about than the warriors do
Those KD Warriors still struggled vs the 2018 Rockets and Kawhi-led teams... not sure they would've fared too well vs Shaq and Kobe tbh. You're counting on Draymond to hold it down in the post vs Shaq, and that's not gonna happen. If you can't handle Kawhi, then wtf do you think Kobe's gonna do?
@@damofyetv1293 the 00 Lakers went 15-1 and the 01 Lakers went 15-4. The Warriors couldn't beat Kyrie and LeBron you really think they'd beat Shaq and Kobe? 😂
u instantly gotta double team shaq so kobe gets his ones and shaq kicks out to open shooters so lakers are getting open looks just as much as warriors would due to shaq playing drop coverage…. once lakers hitting 3s too shaq gets his ones and that’s bbq now it comes down to stops and closers …. and if we relying on iggy to contain bean remember he won mvp for containing bron to damn near 40 , not a flex and kai and klove was hurt .. the only chance dubs got to win is the kd warriors run and that’s a toss up imo
its actually kinda funny because the other 3 starters for the lakers average less than 10 points 3 assist and 5 rebounds. none of them break any of those numbers. im pretty sure all 3 combined dont even get to klays numbers alone besides with assist but when you got 2 top 15 players all time then 2 5PPG scorers and you're also a 5PPG scorer then you're obviously just tossing the ball to the 2 top 15 players who are obviously getting the bucket cause they're top 15 players all time 😭not impressive that they average twice klays assist all 3 combined.
i think it comes down to 2s vs 3s. no doubt Shaq gonna dominate but they are going to put Big Diesel in so much action his legs will fall off lol. warriors in 6
To say Jay Z is MJ and not once since he’s been on the scene has he been considered the best rapper is crazy. Think about it his first album dropped in 96.
the 2017 warriors didn't turn the ball over lile crazy. in the playoffs, the 2017 warriors had fewer turnovers per game than the 2001 lakers did. and of course 2017 warriors pace was much higher than the 2001 lakers, so obviously their tov% was lower than the lakers as well.
What u mean just switch shaq off the roller, the lakers game plan is to stop momentum and fastbreaks and let kd do iso ball cause u know kd likes to iso more than team
Ima a casual basketball watcher but Shaq keeps saying sendem to the hole and hes gon get physical with them.But why would GS even bother if thats their plan.Wouldnt GS just keep shooting threes or deep mid-rangers to where Shaq dosent have a big impact?
If that warriors team was in the 01 season, they woild get bullied because nobody on that team besides dremond will be able to deal with the defense back then. But if its todays game, warrios got it fr. But no team has been able to consistently atop the triangle offense so the warriors will be in for a rough night
I’m a Kobe fan and tht 01 season was weak warriors would succeed in any era 💀the Shaq and Kobe lakers weren’t even tht good in taking 08-10 lakers over any Kobe shaq team let’s be real shaq and Kobe was just shaq and Kobe ..08 lakers had Ariza Sasha Lamar Pau meta fisher ..they had better role players to keep up with the warriors the 01 lakers would jus rely on kobe and Shaq
@marekboldin4386 im a kobe fan too but only 1 of those teams 3peated and that's the shaq and kobe lakers. The west was not weak back then. The west was the most dominant conference for years even back then because they had many of the better teams. Do some research. The west just couldn't deal with that shaq and kobe duo. Yes the kobe and gasol lakers was well built but that shaq and kobe lakers also had fisher and solid role players. Most of those players was already on the team when kobe came into the league don't forget he didn't start right away
@@stevenbrown1762 Kobe number 8 doesn’t compare one bit to Kobe number 24 Kobe’s best years came in 2005 - and ahead he didn’t play his full best w shaq his shot wasn’t as effective his threes wasn’t all there his inside game was crayz when shaq was there but he adapted more to shooting after he left,shaq and Kobe comp in the finals was weak tho they outnumbered ai in the finals w help they played and old Reggie who retired right after ..then they beat nets which arguably should’ve been the kings championships and im a lakers Kobe fan ,when he was with pau they beat Dwight Howard’s Orlando team who was basically the first three point shooting team we ever seen and they beat the super team Celtics all better comp then what Shaq and Kobe played ,I think Kobe and pau teams chemistry could beat the warriors jus cause pau can move all around the court but shaq and Kobe is difficult to say cause the ball would be in Shaqs hands more and if u want to win the balls going to have to be in Kobe’s hands
probably. KD will be at 45 with steph at 60 and klay at 40 tho. im also confused why people think draymond potentially getting fouled out is something worth mentioning. the 3 warrior scorers cant be guarded by the lakers. kobe (the 2nd best defender here) literally said he couldnt do shit to KD and we've seen him fail to lockup steph. the other 3 starting lakers are 5PPG scorers on 2 assist a game. theres no world where the warriors even need draymond here 😭 per 100 possessions shaq kobe steph and KD all average about 36. then you got klays + 32. the lakers are simply out scored and the warriors have MUCH better defense. not that they need it cause once again the lakers have 5PPG scorers as their 3rd 4th and 5th men against teams that arent the 2nd best defense in the league while still being the best offense like the warriors were that season 😭shaq and kobe could drop career highs at the same time each of the 4 straight games they lose and its not saving the lakers.
@@itachikamui966 dude you saw end of his career Kobe not be able to lockdown Steph. We’re talking 2001 peak athleticism in his prime Kobe. The Kobe that would guard guys like prime Allen Iverson, Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter. Honestly they wouldn’t even put Kobe on Steph. They would have Kobe lockdown Klay and he totally could, Klay’s not a playmaker, he’s a catch a shoot guy and Kobe would make sure he never got a chance to catch the ball. They would but 6’10 Robert Horry on KD and let someone with just as much length as KD challenge his shots. They wouldn’t double Steph, they would let him get his points but make sure he didn’t get everyone else going. 2017 Warriors Defensive stats are irrelevant! Shaq averaged almost 30 points and 14 rebounds in 2001. The 2017 warriors NEVER had to face a low post player like Shaq. The best center they faced during the playoffs that year was Rudy Gobert and nobody considers Rudy a good offensive player. Shaq was a great offensive player! Not one person on that 2017 Warriors roster could handle him. His advantage over the opposing teams player at his position would be greater then anyone else on the court. In a 7 game series 7’1 300 lbs Shaq would easily average 40 points and 20 rebounds against a 6’8 Draymond and 6’9 Kevon Looney.
@@terrencenewman5580Kobe is a very good on ball defender off ball, off ball he isn't elite. Phil Jackson has publicly bashed Kobes defense. He's not "locking up" klay unless he just stays glued 100% of the time. That takes a lot of energy and would likely affect his offense, no one is denying Klay all game, and chasing him off screens and also getting a efficient 30 on the other end. They lost in 04 and a big part was Kobe forcing shots. The warriors run a motion offense, not 1v1, the Warriors use screens to get the matchups they want. Shaq is getting attacked in a high sceen and roll they HAVE TO double. If not steph gonna have 40 in 3 quarters.
Dudes in the comments be like "shaq could destroy KD, Steph, Klay, Dray, and Iggy by himself! Not even gonna mention Kobe..." You need more than 2 all time greats to keep up with them GS boys. KD is a better all around scorer than Kobe, and Steph/Klay are 2 of the best shooters ever. Shaq is among the worst free throw shooters. Who else gonna be an option for Shaq and Kobe if they dont each score 50 every game? Certainly those guys aint locking up all 5 positions at once on defense either. They are one-two screens away from having no impact defensively. Warriors beat Lakers in a 7 game series on simple math. Thats all there is to it. Expecting 2 players to score more than 80 points by themselves is a tough ask... but asking 5 players to score 100 is much easier.
@@KzmotivoLike how KD went down and Steph closed them out in Game 5 after KD went down, and the dropped a 33 pierce in one half, to send a fully healthy Rockets team home…….Don’t leave that part out
Bruh that 03 laker team was disfunctional that's why Detroit won and Carl and Gary were old and had nothing left... But that 01 team was a different beast
You gotta remember they did not have the hack ah Shaq rule in, you put a 3rd stringer foul Shag in the back court, he proceeds to miss both free throws, on defense you isolated in the pick n roll for 3 a few trips up and down the floor and you are down 20, Kobe is not a factor if Shaq is on the line and you cannot run your offense.
There is no team in the history of the NBA beating the KD Warriors. Nostalgia be damned. By the way Jeff ain’t wrong, Shaq’s defense got exposed versus Detroit. He couldn’t defend more than 3 feet from the basket.
Shaq is punishing GS small ball line up and would avg 35-40pts. I say hed punish the small ball lineup bc the starting C getting in foul trouble instantly. I nvr have to mention kobe bc shaq is killing them
The Lakers is beating the 15 16 warriors but the 17 18 warriors beating the Lakers they don't have anyone to guard Curry Klay and KD kobe is just one man they can potentially put iggy on kobe and he'll do a decent job of slowing him down by 5% - or 10% on a good day and no one can guard shaq but that's only shooting twos and I'm pretty sure the warriors can still outshoot them
That's wild... the 00-01 Lakers defense is too elite. No answer for Shaq or Kobe. They'd be another sacramento kings type team at best and we know what happened to them. The warriors with KD shoulda never happened and shoulda been vetoed (like when the league blocked CP3 to the Lakers). But it is what it is.
The same Sacramento team that was robbed by the officials? U clearly don't know wat u talking about. Ur compared a trade veto (which was bs) to a free agent signing (which was weak). They aren't the same at all
@j_quan2594 Robbed by officials!? 😂😂😂 You must be one one of those bitter sacramento fans... Ya'll still having trouble getting into the playoffs. And, yes they are the same! CP3 at that time was an elite PG and woulda def helped make the Lakers a Championship team AGAIN. It don't matter how he got there. The league still hated and blocked it.
Refs are part of the game so that angle is invalid. Thats why hes in jail and we still have 17 Chips. That team couldnt beat the Lakers anyway! Carry On.
It’s not like the warriors were destroying Lebron in the finals. If it weren’t for injuries that finals would’ve been different. And if Lebron can keep it close then there’s no doubt that Shaq and Kobe could beat those warriors.
Teams lost to the Warriors playing their game the lakers had size/defense and players who made timely 3's Whoever guarding Shaq instantly getting in foul trouble first 3 minutes of the game
Kobe used to torch klay lol….he average like 30 damn near against klay ….they got nobody to guard shaq …saying the warriors winning because they going be jacking 3s is wild lol
@@guruj8827 klay was always a hell of a defender he got torched for 44 in 2014 lol u think a younger more athletic Kobe wouldn’t have cooked him come on now lol
@@deeswagg21context matters .. in 2014 the warriors was blowing out the lakers the whole game and Kobe was 15/34 and the lakers lost by 21 even tho they outscored the Warriors by 15 in the 4th quarter.. he didn’t torch Klay lol .. probably “torched” someone off the bench
Lakers would do what they wanted. Wouldn't be stopped. Shaq and kobe eat bbq chicken all day long. And warriors win by 10pts. I don't underestimate the old players. Nor do I underestimate the evolution.
“The problem was, it wasn’t a restaurant, it was a cafeteria” 😂
THAT WAS CRAZY
On god my jaw hit the floor when he said that 😂😂
They gotta chill lmaoo
I just spit up my drink when he said that.
B Henn with, “Don’t speak too much on my life,” is crazy.
The 00 and 01 lakers is def killin the 15 and 16 warriors. The 17 and 18 warriors tho with steph and kd are different animals. I dont think no team is beatin them warriors in a 7 game series.
16 warriors cooking those lakers
Ima say 17 warriors in 6 vs 01 lakers. Steph FMVP. Shaq and kob can avg 60-70 combined and it still wouldnt be enough. 01 lakers in 5 tho against 15 or 16 warriors tho. Shaq FMVP.
16 warriors blew a 3-1 lead they couldn't even cook the cavs wtf is u talking about
@@flackojr8159 Youre crazy lol if kd never came they woudnt even beat bron again. How you think they beatin a prime diesel and and frobe 4/7 times😂
@@dreamchaser1419 Steph definitely not fmvp with Kobe guarding him he barely got fmvp against the Celtics
We need Teague to speak on that clip of kyrie putting him on the floor😂😂
“It’s Kyrie” Jeff Teague probably..
Playing R Kelly Honey Love in your boy's driveway is crazy.
Bruh I thought I was the only one to catch that 😂😂
Not really! Us old heads from the R&B era! We didn't have to worry about the rainbow kids saying everything was gay
@@ricojustrealtampaflorida1986facts
😭😭😭
Leading the league in steals is insane 😭
Nasty work
MJ laughing at this comment
I didn't get it at first but now I can't stop laughing
HAHAHHAHAHHAAH THIS trio the funniest ever podcasters
That was hilarious
“It won’t the restaurant it was the cafeteria” 😭😭😭😭
Lmao "hands on the table on ya tippy toes" 😂😂
The song is a BANGER!
Gary Payton said it best “ fuck the play give it to Shaq he will score or get double teamed and make the right pass” no one could ever stop prime Shaq in a 7 game series
The Pistons did lol.
@@prometheus3498shaq literally threw that series 😂😂
Shaq is gonna be gassed constantly getting pick n rolled then offensively just get one guy to guard shaq and let him score. After the half he is gonna look like ant against kyrie needing oxygen
@@lilshaan6252He got swept 5 times in the Playoffs in 6 years. '94, '95', '96, '98 and '99. Lost in 5 in '97 and '04. I know he played well in some of those series but in 3 of them he shot under 50% from the floor, which is absolutely pathetic for a big man. I love Shaq but let's not act like he never had bad series.
@@AndrewMolinaro-cr4mk Even when they were winning, they were still vulnerable. 2000: Blazers were up 13 going into the 4th of game 7 and choked. 2002: Kings were up 3-2, lost game 6 by 4 and game 7 in OT. 2003: Spurs beat them 4-2. 2004: As you said, Pistons got a gentleman sweep if not for some Kobe heroics in game 2 to send it to OT. 2001 was the only dominant year.
I don't know how well Jeff could edit himself for network television, but I'd love to see him as a guest with Shaq, Chuck, Kenny, and Ernie on TNT.
If KG on tv, EVERYONE is allowed
I always look back and watch old games. Personally, I think the game has developed past the old guard. I think Curry and them have it every time
The game may have developed past ( it's questionable for me tho )the old guard,but,nba ratings have been down for the last 4/5 years.I don't even watch todays nba games,so boring watching guys go to the hoop and defenders get out their way.
from a historical standpoint curry kinda broke basketball.. he did the impossible and kept doin it
Drake isn't the LeBron of rap, he's the Karl Malone of rap.
Josh giddy of rap
It not bein a restaurant but a cafeteria is craaaaaaaazzzzzzyyyyyyy 😭
Derek Fischer being a cone got me weak asf 😂😂😂😂
Urdu would absolutely COOK that MF. 😂😂
The laker wouldn’t know what to do. They would be amazed cuz they would have never seen anything like it. They’ll be leaving Steph and klay open for three until like game 3 and then it’ll be too late
the spacing and ball movement alone from the warriors would sweep the lakers. Steph, Klay, and KD gonna be taking turns running the score up to 150-85.
-- KD GSW should beat the 2000 Lakers. HOWEVER, play under 2000 rules (not 2020), it might be quite different.
Shaq employed big defenders b/c team needed bodies to throw at Shaq. So sure, Curry and Klay be reigning down 3s but they would also be in foul trouble. It's just a mismatch for both teams. KD-GSW should prevail but they going need some icy-hot for all 'dem bruises.
I never thought I would say this to anyone, but you smoke entirely too much weed to even think this shit is true 😂
I NEED WHAT TEAGUE IS SMOKIN
My grandmother played R.Kelly at a cookout and I tackled the speakers 😅
Yall got me at home playing SF6 while bumping a Kels playlist 😂
No cafeteria at my crib tho 😅
Jeff screaming METROOOO took me out 😹😹😹 6:22
Malone and Payton were older at that point 3:18
Jeff Teague has talent for singing bruh
There’s an old saying… “Threes are always more than Twos”
3>2
They gotta get them shits off don’t they? lol Kobe would’ve shut Steph ass down as he did before better go look up the footage
@@michaelrodriguez73802 top 10 players of all time > none
@@moneymitch952you crazy af 😂
how many threee do you
rly think they’re gonna make? threes are better than twos unless i make a lot more twos than you make threes
Don’t forget Phil Jackson is coaching circles around Steve Kerr!
You mean the ways he coached the knicks?
don't matter kd warriors were more lethal than the 01 lakers ✌️
Bro really glazing the shit out of Drake 😂😂😂😂
You either glazing drake or Kendrick no in between w you people
Glazing a pdf file is WILD bro 😂
Giving a nigga flowers is glazing now I hate the internet 😂
@@ChristopherR236shvt up wit dat corny azz joke
@@DLoD3f1niT3 not a joke bro
Could Shaq stay on the floor for 35 minutes against stretch bigs and offensive switches? Free throws? Spacing? I’m a Laker but I think we could definitely lose that series.
The Rockets with cp3 and Harden almost sent them home
STOP IT WE WAS DIFFERENT
@@idothisforfun1300 that's another team with spacing, free throws, 3pt shooters, etc. The lakers aren't having a chance against that houston team either, steph changed the game to where teams almost have to live or die by the 3ball. Make no 3's? Lose the game.
@@whitebwoi you REALLY think that? Kobe is going OFF on the Rockets and Shaq can literally score on any given possession vs them. The Lakers perimeter defense (Fox, Fisher, Kobe etc) would be a handful for that rockets team
@@idothisforfun1300 do math even though nobody is stopping kd and shaq, they're going for 2's. steph, klay, and kd are going for 3's and nobody is stopping them from getting buckets either especially with what i stated before, ball movement and spacing.
Kobe. That is all.
This episode is crazy 😂
OVA BY THE STOVE 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bruh it’s straight like this … Shaq is fouling out every big they have 😂 looney , McGee , draymond , bogut whoever .
And they'd still lose.
They'd put Shaq in the spin cycle
Kobe shutting down curry all series guarenteed. Most of yall nyggas was swimming in y’all daddy nuts when Kobe shut Iverson down in the finals
Shaq gotta guard too
@@HemiBoyJeff_HMB that’s cool but once draymond and looney foul out who settin them screens ? And they runnin the triangle curry and Klay have to guard too 😂
This episode insane.
17 warriors and 04 Pistons beating majority of all the NBA champs in league history.
These the same dudes who said the Wolves would beat the Mavs lmao
Damn thought the Tony Parker affair with teammates wife was cap but these dudes straight confirming it’s real lmao. Holy fuck
If they playing the old school rules, lakers would win. Current rules it'd be the Dubs.
The so called old rules are the real rules. No other level of basketball has had to change the rules for players to excel.
@@JerichoCastille Preach
@@JerichoCastille tweakin, its happened in every era. The game hasn’t been played the exact same or officiated the exact same in any era. So what makes the so called old rules the right ones or the so called new ones right? End of the day the game is what it is. Great players will shine regardless
@@FLN_NELL Whatever. Please explain why the NBA is the only level of basketball that has had to completely overhaul basic rules and ignore the application of common rules violations for players to excel?
@@JerichoCastille its not 💀if you look at people who shined towards the end of the "old era" and in the start of the "new era" they still found the exact same success apart from a few people who were on a garbage team and going against like lebron and the cavs in round 1 or smthin. the rules changed because the FANS wanted more shots to go in so hand checking was made illegal. players still shined equally as much 😭 they all just made more baskets. the only people who shined less are the guys who relied on being 50 pounds heavier thahn their opponent and giving their opponents wrist indian burn and tried to hold them still as if basketball was ever meant to be wrestling...everyone who relied on actual SKILL still shined 100000% as much as they did before. go ahead and look at lebron for that if you want. 32+ PPG scorer in '06 and now is 38 putting up 28PPG and 7 and 7. look at kobe. look at dwade. look at dirk. so many all time greats and they played in both era's and did equally as good. sorry that it may be less interesting for you to watch because a random sumo wrestler cant come on the court and lock someone down by grabbing their hands and taking a nap 😭
No way they beat the lakers 😭😭😭 it’s always how they gonna guard Steph but never think how they gonna guard shaq and Kobe 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 just shaq alone
Kobe & Shaq will get a lot of 2's. KD, Curry, and Klay will get a lot of 3's.
@@ironflyellis3817 This. Like why tf they gotta worry about Shaq? They got three of the greatest 3-point shooters and KD who’s one of, if not the most talented scorer oat. Lakers got more to worry about than the warriors do
Golden state have shooters that will make it rain 3 all night and they can Hack-a-Shaq. GSW will destroy LAkers
6 fouls apiece for every player.....so Steph Draymond Klay Iggy & Bogut go foul out 😂😂😂😂 @@booyoohouse
Phil Jackson the key
Put the pipe down Folks😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
This was like 2 minute conversation lol. I wish they talked about it more
“Don’t speak too much on my life” is crazy 💀💀💀
Shaq and Curry both have gravity but Shaq's gravity gets half the team in foul trouble.
saying shit like "karl malone needs to be bunking with r kelly" is why this is the best NBA podcast by far
Ngl 14-16 warriors .. they only had one superstar .. these teams you put them against had 2 superstars minimum
This man said fish would be a "cone"!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🍦
Those KD Warriors still struggled vs the 2018 Rockets and Kawhi-led teams... not sure they would've fared too well vs Shaq and Kobe tbh. You're counting on Draymond to hold it down in the post vs Shaq, and that's not gonna happen. If you can't handle Kawhi, then wtf do you think Kobe's gonna do?
16-17 Warriors was 16-1 in the playoffs .. 17-18 Warriors were 16-5 in the play offs
@@damofyetv1293 the 00 Lakers went 15-1 and the 01 Lakers went 15-4. The Warriors couldn't beat Kyrie and LeBron you really think they'd beat Shaq and Kobe? 😂
@@xDreMackthe 2001 Lakers went 15-1 The warriors beat Lebron and Kyrie 4-1 wtf are you talking about the only 16-1 team in NBA history
Shaq and Kobe went 7 games with the Blazers in 2000 and the kings in 2002 and needed the refs to bail them out we can play that game!!
@@randyholliday5626 simply because the first round was the best of five back then.
Granny gumming the ribs is crazy at the BBQ
they maybe touched on the Warriors vs Lakers for like 40 seconds
rest of this clip is just pure jokes lmao
Jeff is phucking hilarious bro 😂😂
u instantly gotta double team shaq so kobe gets his ones and shaq kicks out to open shooters so lakers are getting open looks just as much as warriors would due to shaq playing drop coverage…. once lakers hitting 3s too shaq gets his ones and that’s bbq now it comes down to stops and closers …. and if we relying on iggy to contain bean remember he won mvp for containing bron to damn near 40 , not a flex and kai and klove was hurt .. the only chance dubs got to win is the kd warriors run and that’s a toss up imo
They really thinking these 2 man teams barely averaging 100 points is beating a 4 man team it's crazy
its actually kinda funny because the other 3 starters for the lakers average less than 10 points 3 assist and 5 rebounds. none of them break any of those numbers. im pretty sure all 3 combined dont even get to klays numbers alone besides with assist but when you got 2 top 15 players all time then 2 5PPG scorers and you're also a 5PPG scorer then you're obviously just tossing the ball to the 2 top 15 players who are obviously getting the bucket cause they're top 15 players all time 😭not impressive that they average twice klays assist all 3 combined.
i think it comes down to 2s vs 3s. no doubt Shaq gonna dominate but they are going to put Big Diesel in so much action his legs will fall off lol. warriors in 6
To say Jay Z is MJ and not once since he’s been on the scene has he been considered the best rapper is crazy. Think about it his first album dropped in 96.
Tupac is mj
@@guwapdcfinest5868 Damn right…..the GOAT
I can never take dude on the right seriously after he got bitched twice with the whole leg space thing 😅😂😭
when that happen?
Jadakiss right ??
People forget the Warriors turn the ball over crazy. LA would take advantage of that.
the 2017 warriors didn't turn the ball over lile crazy. in the playoffs, the 2017 warriors had fewer turnovers per game than the 2001 lakers did. and of course 2017 warriors pace was much higher than the 2001 lakers, so obviously their tov% was lower than the lakers as well.
It’s difficult to go against a pdf? Wild 😂
can Jeff speak to how cold Brandon Roy was
I agree. LA 2001 WAS NOT BUILT FOR 2017 NBA STYLE
Three is more then 2 you have as many dunks as you want Steph and Klay performing at their best outscore the lakers
Boys forget about foul trouble for the GSW bigs.
What u mean just switch shaq off the roller, the lakers game plan is to stop momentum and fastbreaks and let kd do iso ball cause u know kd likes to iso more than team
Damn my grandmama was an Estelle too
Ima a casual basketball watcher but Shaq keeps saying sendem to the hole and hes gon get physical with them.But why would GS even bother if thats their plan.Wouldnt GS just keep shooting threes or deep mid-rangers to where Shaq dosent have a big impact?
6:22 no wayyyyyy 😂
If that warriors team was in the 01 season, they woild get bullied because nobody on that team besides dremond will be able to deal with the defense back then. But if its todays game, warrios got it fr. But no team has been able to consistently atop the triangle offense so the warriors will be in for a rough night
I’m a Kobe fan and tht 01 season was weak warriors would succeed in any era 💀the Shaq and Kobe lakers weren’t even tht good in taking 08-10 lakers over any Kobe shaq team let’s be real shaq and Kobe was just shaq and Kobe ..08 lakers had Ariza Sasha Lamar Pau meta fisher ..they had better role players to keep up with the warriors the 01 lakers would jus rely on kobe and Shaq
@marekboldin4386 im a kobe fan too but only 1 of those teams 3peated and that's the shaq and kobe lakers. The west was not weak back then. The west was the most dominant conference for years even back then because they had many of the better teams. Do some research. The west just couldn't deal with that shaq and kobe duo. Yes the kobe and gasol lakers was well built but that shaq and kobe lakers also had fisher and solid role players. Most of those players was already on the team when kobe came into the league don't forget he didn't start right away
@@stevenbrown1762 Kobe number 8 doesn’t compare one bit to Kobe number 24 Kobe’s best years came in 2005 - and ahead he didn’t play his full best w shaq his shot wasn’t as effective his threes wasn’t all there his inside game was crayz when shaq was there but he adapted more to shooting after he left,shaq and Kobe comp in the finals was weak tho they outnumbered ai in the finals w help they played and old Reggie who retired right after ..then they beat nets which arguably should’ve been the kings championships and im a lakers Kobe fan ,when he was with pau they beat Dwight Howard’s Orlando team who was basically the first three point shooting team we ever seen and they beat the super team Celtics all better comp then what Shaq and Kobe played ,I think Kobe and pau teams chemistry could beat the warriors jus cause pau can move all around the court but shaq and Kobe is difficult to say cause the ball would be in Shaqs hands more and if u want to win the balls going to have to be in Kobe’s hands
Lakers 3peat‼️ ShaQ & Ko8e Greatest Duo Ever‼️ Put Respect on the Mamba‼️ Teague Yu Buggin
Wait what Tony Parker do?!!🤣🤣
Cheating with other player's wives
@@lukatosic09 yea buddy cold blooded breaking all types of codes sheesh
Shaq would score 50 plus and Draymond would be fouled out by halftime.
probably. KD will be at 45 with steph at 60 and klay at 40 tho. im also confused why people think draymond potentially getting fouled out is something worth mentioning. the 3 warrior scorers cant be guarded by the lakers. kobe (the 2nd best defender here) literally said he couldnt do shit to KD and we've seen him fail to lockup steph. the other 3 starting lakers are 5PPG scorers on 2 assist a game. theres no world where the warriors even need draymond here 😭
per 100 possessions shaq kobe steph and KD all average about 36. then you got klays + 32. the lakers are simply out scored and the warriors have MUCH better defense. not that they need it cause once again the lakers have 5PPG scorers as their 3rd 4th and 5th men against teams that arent the 2nd best defense in the league while still being the best offense like the warriors were that season 😭shaq and kobe could drop career highs at the same time each of the 4 straight games they lose and its not saving the lakers.
@@itachikamui966 dude you saw end of his career Kobe not be able to lockdown Steph. We’re talking 2001 peak athleticism in his prime Kobe. The Kobe that would guard guys like prime Allen Iverson, Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter. Honestly they wouldn’t even put Kobe on Steph. They would have Kobe lockdown Klay and he totally could, Klay’s not a playmaker, he’s a catch a shoot guy and Kobe would make sure he never got a chance to catch the ball. They would but 6’10 Robert Horry on KD and let someone with just as much length as KD challenge his shots. They wouldn’t double Steph, they would let him get his points but make sure he didn’t get everyone else going. 2017 Warriors Defensive stats are irrelevant! Shaq averaged almost 30 points and 14 rebounds in 2001. The 2017 warriors NEVER had to face a low post player like Shaq. The best center they faced during the playoffs that year was Rudy Gobert and nobody considers Rudy a good offensive player. Shaq was a great offensive player! Not one person on that 2017 Warriors roster could handle him. His advantage over the opposing teams player at his position would be greater then anyone else on the court. In a 7 game series 7’1 300 lbs Shaq would easily average 40 points and 20 rebounds against a 6’8 Draymond and 6’9 Kevon Looney.
@@terrencenewman5580Kobe is a very good on ball defender off ball, off ball he isn't elite. Phil Jackson has publicly bashed Kobes defense. He's not "locking up" klay unless he just stays glued 100% of the time. That takes a lot of energy and would likely affect his offense, no one is denying Klay all game, and chasing him off screens and also getting a efficient 30 on the other end. They lost in 04 and a big part was Kobe forcing shots.
The warriors run a motion offense, not 1v1, the Warriors use screens to get the matchups they want. Shaq is getting attacked in a high sceen and roll they HAVE TO double. If not steph gonna have 40 in 3 quarters.
Dudes in the comments be like "shaq could destroy KD, Steph, Klay, Dray, and Iggy by himself! Not even gonna mention Kobe..."
You need more than 2 all time greats to keep up with them GS boys. KD is a better all around scorer than Kobe, and Steph/Klay are 2 of the best shooters ever. Shaq is among the worst free throw shooters.
Who else gonna be an option for Shaq and Kobe if they dont each score 50 every game? Certainly those guys aint locking up all 5 positions at once on defense either. They are one-two screens away from having no impact defensively.
Warriors beat Lakers in a 7 game series on simple math. Thats all there is to it. Expecting 2 players to score more than 80 points by themselves is a tough ask... but asking 5 players to score 100 is much easier.
Lakers were getting cooked by peja stojakovich and the warriors have two shooters better than him
2017/2018 Warriors are cooking any team ever.
Not the 96 Bulls
@@JPHellaHard2800 3 > 2
@@JPHellaHard2800They definitely cooking the 3 pt bulls. The 3pt bulls not even beatin the 3pt lakers
Lol. They lose if Chris Paul doesn’t go down..
@@KzmotivoLike how KD went down and Steph closed them out in Game 5 after KD went down, and the dropped a 33 pierce in one half, to send a fully healthy Rockets team home…….Don’t leave that part out
Jay Z being Michael Jordan is insane
Bruh that 03 laker team was disfunctional that's why Detroit won and Carl and Gary were old and had nothing left... But that 01 team was a different beast
Big question is what style are they playing the new school or old school?
They playing basketball yall act like ball is a whole new sport
That Drake take was nasty work 😩
Wassup wit my guy Jordan 4s lol that back looking kinda off
D fish was a lock stick ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
Bogut wasn't on that team with KD
2019
It’s crazy how Kobe is so forgotten he would have destroyed every matchup who guarded him in that series shit he did it at 38/39 years old
Derrick fisher gone be a cone is crazy😂😂😂😂
drake is clearly the karl malone of rap wym
Jeff the real one here y’all too caught up in nostalgia steph is him when his team was worth a damn
You gotta remember they did not have the hack ah Shaq rule in, you put a 3rd stringer foul Shag in the back court, he proceeds to miss both free throws, on defense you isolated in the pick n roll for 3 a few trips up and down the floor and you are down 20, Kobe is not a factor if Shaq is on the line and you cannot run your offense.
Everyone saying he is wrong is 100% definitely right. They 100% know more than actual ballers 😂
Until you actually guard a monster like shaq you have no idea how dominant he was. He was pretty much fat the entire 2002 season and still took mvp
Thank you Jeff
I like how y’all called Karl Malone out..f brandon Jennings and his feelings
There is no team in the history of the NBA beating the KD Warriors. Nostalgia be damned.
By the way Jeff ain’t wrong, Shaq’s defense got exposed versus Detroit. He couldn’t defend more than 3 feet from the basket.
15’ Warriors < 01’ Lakers
16’ Warriors < 01’ Lakers
17’ Warriors >>>>> 01’ Lakers
18’ Warriors >>>>> 01’ Lakers
Shaq is punishing GS small ball line up and would avg 35-40pts. I say hed punish the small ball lineup bc the starting C getting in foul trouble instantly. I nvr have to mention kobe bc shaq is killing them
Facts!!! 🔥🔥
The Lakers is beating the 15 16 warriors but the 17 18 warriors beating the Lakers they don't have anyone to guard Curry Klay and KD kobe is just one man they can potentially put iggy on kobe and he'll do a decent job of slowing him down by 5% - or 10% on a good day and no one can guard shaq but that's only shooting twos and I'm pretty sure the warriors can still outshoot them
That's wild... the 00-01 Lakers defense is too elite. No answer for Shaq or Kobe. They'd be another sacramento kings type team at best and we know what happened to them. The warriors with KD shoulda never happened and shoulda been vetoed (like when the league blocked CP3 to the Lakers). But it is what it is.
The same Sacramento team that was robbed by the officials? U clearly don't know wat u talking about. Ur compared a trade veto (which was bs) to a free agent signing (which was weak). They aren't the same at all
@j_quan2594 Robbed by officials!? 😂😂😂 You must be one one of those bitter sacramento fans... Ya'll still having trouble getting into the playoffs. And, yes they are the same! CP3 at that time was an elite PG and woulda def helped make the Lakers a Championship team AGAIN. It don't matter how he got there. The league still hated and blocked it.
@@jumgarcia50 Far from a Sacramento fan🤡 go back and watch the series, there's also a ref that admitted it and was jailed.
🤡?? Lol... why are you even replying then punk mf!? How you getting your feelings hurt over a team you're not even a fan of, weirdo.
Refs are part of the game so that angle is invalid. Thats why hes in jail and we still have 17 Chips. That team couldnt beat the Lakers anyway! Carry On.
Shaq unguardable, Curry off the ball offense underrated tho, he would give fisher & t lue problems 😂
It’s not like the warriors were destroying Lebron in the finals. If it weren’t for injuries that finals would’ve been different. And if Lebron can keep it close then there’s no doubt that Shaq and Kobe could beat those warriors.
Its funny that the only players that say the new players are better than the old ones are the ones that was getting cooked by them😂😂😂😂
Teams lost to the Warriors playing their game the lakers had size/defense and players who made timely 3's Whoever guarding Shaq instantly getting in foul trouble first 3 minutes of the game
Why is there a club shay shay logo in the corner
Kobe used to torch klay lol….he average like 30 damn near against klay ….they got nobody to guard shaq …saying the warriors winning because they going be jacking 3s is wild lol
That was before he was prime klay 2015-18,
@@guruj8827 klay was always a hell of a defender he got torched for 44 in 2014 lol u think a younger more athletic Kobe wouldn’t have cooked him come on now lol
No he did not stop fucking lying. Kobe did not average no fucking 30 points against Klay. 😭😭😭😭
@@deeswagg21context matters .. in 2014 the warriors was blowing out the lakers the whole game and Kobe was 15/34 and the lakers lost by 21 even tho they outscored the Warriors by 15 in the 4th quarter.. he didn’t torch Klay lol .. probably “torched” someone off the bench
@@jovahnshelton5141 my bad it’s 28 😂 foh
Lakers would do what they wanted. Wouldn't be stopped. Shaq and kobe eat bbq chicken all day long.
And warriors win by 10pts.
I don't underestimate the old players. Nor do I underestimate the evolution.
I don’t think yall appreciate how great Kobe and Shaq was doing that time man lol that same warriors team should have lost to Houston
Jeff be on percs
Drake = bron
Wayne = Kobe same time frame of primes too fr