The Electric Outboard We've Been Waiting For | ALL NEW EPROPULSION X-40
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- The newest high output / high horsepower electric outboard! Testing the all new electric outboard on a pontoon boat.
The EPROPULSION X-40 ⚡️⚡️⚡️
The HIGH HORSEPOWER electric outboard motor we've been waiting for.
Hey guys, I am grateful to have had the opportunity to get invited down to Ft. Lauderdale Florida to get exclusive access to the new EPROPULSION X-40 electric outboard before they released it at the Ft Lauderdale International Boat Show! I had the chance to try it out in person on a 22ft Northstar pontoon boat and get a hands-on experience with EPROPULSIONs' newest electric outboard.
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In this video, I'm going to cover EVERYTHING I learned about the outboard. Soecs and details, battery, speed, runtime, cost, what we know so far, what we don't know yet, and much, much more! I'll show my on the water experience and even get a chance to sit down with the Cofounder and CEO of EPROPULSION, Danny Tao, for a quick interview. This new 40 kilowatt (50+ horsepower) electric outboard has some interesting technology, performance, and features!!! I hope you enjoy and learn something new about the future of boating.
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:41 - X-40 Specs
2:55 - Noise Test
3:30 - X-40 Battery Specs
4:43 - X-40 Battery Cost and Comparison
5:38 - Runtime and Speed
7:04 - Charging
7:24 - Cost and Realease Date
8:50 - Demo Boat Used
9:23 - On the Water Testing
11:07 - Final Thoughts
12:07 - Danny Tao Interview
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The battery technology has been the limiting factor for electric outboards, inboards and cars since about 1910. They are still very heavy and expensive per kilowatt hour of capacity compared to gasoline and diesel. The current crop of motors are plenty good in themselves, but the power cells still hold them back. Most of my power tools and my lawn mower are battery electric. I really like them. And prefer them over the older corded electric and gas power. A 30 to 50 kWh outboard would be great on my 14 foot classic fiberglass outboard runabout, but a 400 to 800 pound battery pack to run it is still to heavy for the weight capacity of the boat. 45 to 95 pounds for 1 or 2 individual 6 gallon gas tanks remains the go to configuration and provides plenty of range for the day or two of use between fill ups (or recharges). 1 gallon of gasoline is about the equivalent of 33 kWh of electric battery capacity.
800lbs of batteries is kinda nuts. That really limits what setup you can put this on. It's a catch 22 of needing more batteries to get range, the. You have so much weight you can't plane and need a bigger motor. I bet that x40 would push a small boat fast, but you'd almost have to pick between speed and range. Even half those batteries would make it so I could only take myself and limited to 1 passenger.
How fun is that, I think the spot lock will be a game changer being built into this motor. I have some experience with a smaller kayak electric motor and enjoyed it for most of last year. Thanks for taking the time to share this with us all and congrats on this unique invite to be there for the reveal of this motor. Fun times, I agree, you will see a lot of interest if they can produce something for the smaller boats, I think there is probably more of us with the Jon boats then the larger boats, but then again, that is just me, I have not factual idea of that being the case.
Again, great video and have a. blessed weekend my friend.
Dale
The battery bank is setup according to the need.. that type hull has major drag not efficient a all. Put that motor on an efficient hull and you longer need as many batteries.
Or put a third pontoon on
Well done! Neat stuff
You're in my neighborhood. I live one canal to the east. The house with the Whaler on the lift are friends of mine. I'm surprised I haven't seen this electric boat yet.
not sure if i missed it in the video. but do these new motors have regen?
Great video. I'm probably in the market for an X20 or X25, preferably running at 48V, though it seems everything will be based around the 96V packs. 96V is probably a good mid-point, though 48V is favoured because of the number of solar inverters / inverters that can then power the house electrics of modern yachts and catamarans. Having the steering capabilities via a motor on the outboard and a communications cable seems so simple an idea, I'm not sure why other outboards (especially petrol ones) haven't come up with it before.
I can literally buy a mercury 250 for the cost of something that is only 50 hp rating 😂😂😂 . I think ill stick with the gas motor. But dont get me wrong im sure it has its place for some people just not for me . Not only that but if you are full throttle it you might get a couple of hours on the lake . When i fish we are out for 5 or 6 hours easy and thats not counting tournaments that are 8 hours easy.
I totally get it man. Definitely not for everyone and costly at that.
Seems like the added weight will reduce seating capacity and negatively effect handling dynamics, the cost is high, lithium ion doesn’t work well with salt water the run times are horrible. Then there’s the where to charge issues?
Yeah man I don't make or sell them, just covering them in content. It's pretty cool from an engineering and technical stance but definitely not cost effective enough yet. Time will tell if they can get weight down, run time up, and cost down. There's definitely a lot to criticize, and true at that, but everyone has to start somewhere. It will be interesting to see where they are in 10 years, win or lose.
What I like: heading hold, position hold, steering range which appears to reach 45 deg. left and right, integration, torque, noise level. What I'm concerned about: cost of batteries, weight of batteries, relative low energy density of batteries, outboard motor and electronics below the waterline which could make them vulnerable to leaks and damage, cost of the batteries...
We've been making submarines for a long time now, I would have thought there must be a way to really minimise the risk of leaks but I get your point. With everything electric, it's a balance between capital cost versus the savings of fuel.
I know pricing isn't available yet, but what would you guesstimate the price of the X40 or X20 package (no batteries)?
For the price of this you could buy 3 or 4 50hp gas engines that run longer and are way more reliable
Give the technology around another 5-10 years and by then you'll have solid state batteries with 2-3 times the capacity with less weight and volume and much faster charging. Throw in a Sharrow propeller and you'll have some serious range and even less noise.
How is this even remotely competitive in terms of cost 😂
Has it got enough power to push through the Surf Zone? 1hr of riding is not Safe.
Bring a portable generator with you just in case.
Awesome video Anthony. If you end up getting one to test here in Georgia I would love to meet up with you to test it out. Keep up the great work you are the one channel that helped me make my decision to buy an epropulsion motor for my current boat.
I am currently pushing a 24’ pontoon boat with a single spirit evo. I can get up to 5.5mph on the boat by myself on a calm lake here in Georgia. I would love to see what the X series can do. It would also be great if epropulsion released the screen and the electric steering for their other lines. I love my spirit evo and top mount throttle but the new screen and the electric steering have me stoked.
Electricity and water. What could POSSIBLY go wrong? LOL! 😂😂😂
Batteries on boats are nothing new. Bass fishermen have been using electric trolling motors since 1934, the year Minn Kota was created.
I have an ePropulsion Spirit for my jon boat. It’s great but I wish they made a model like it with about twice the power, that could still use portable batteries.
The “Navy” series covers that pretty well.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Navy series are nice, but don't use those portable batteries on the Spirit.
A total of 43000$ here in sweden 😅😅
Wink. Wink 😊
Still not ready for prime time.
Y cuanto vale el motor?
I want to know what happens when the boat capsizes? Do the batteries turn the boat into a huge tiki torch like the Tesla’s that burst into flames after flooding with salt water?
Man I honestly have no idea at all. Great question though. I know most batteries are ip67 rated. I even have one lithium that can be submerged. Not sure the specs on the ones in the video.
What’s the range?
It seems like maintenance should be much easier than an ICE outboard.
I would run this on my reservoir boat I don’t think I’d do it on anything else.
96v at at 40kw would be 400+ amps. How do they make that work? Anybody have insight? (Google says the Power Delivery cables would need to be 3/4 inch thick for just a 2 meter run)
So stoked for this motor.
Let me guess, lithium batteries that explode when lithium is exposed to water.
No. Your confusing Li-Ion w/ LiFePo4, the marine gold standard. Some cheaper ones run nickel manganese internally and are subject to thermal runaway.
Y’all go try that I wouldn’t get out on the water with just an electric motor You better have a backup
These new gas alternative outboards are a welcome option to the boat conversion market! The new world of eco friendly, quiet, low maintenance outboard electric motors has arrived. Kudos on this excellent review.
Thank you. Much appreciated. The X-40 is an awesome addition to the electric outboard world.
Couldn't have said it better ourselves!
Motor - very cool technology
Battery - same old same old heavy, expensive, sucky crap that can play the thermal runaway game when you least expect or want it.
Who is this WE you speak of?
Put a Sharrow toroidal prop on it and make the hole shot much better....i
Nice gimmick, but I never will change over from gas. Salt water and long distance travel is common for us. Cute for a little CA liberal lake… Real men use gas or diesel. I run 3 twin 454’s. Nothing will ever replace that in my lifetime…
That's great, Dr. Ed. It's not a gimmick. It is, in fact, an outboard. Nobody asked you to change over from gas. Don't make it political because I live in Georgia, not a liberal state, and we have TONS of electric only lakes and reservoirs. Real men aren't closed-minded. They can understand there are tons of different vessels out there and different ways to power them. There's not a one size fits all. Whether you like it or not, there is a very large market for electric outboards. These companies are doing well. It's just a different market, man. Nobody is coming for your gas outboards. No need to flex and feel triggered enough to comment that you're a real man 🤣 In fact, why are you even watching this video? Shouldn't you be tuning in to some twin 454 content opposed to a first look video of a pre launch electric outboard???
I know, right. That's why I'm still using my horse and buggy.
@@jprobillard EV’s are so 1900’s and failed…
@@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats nobody coming for gas outboards? wow, blind. Ask anyone from california if they can still run their two strokes...
you do realize right? it takes earth movers and heavy equipment to mine even one battery. The environmental cost in pollution to mine ONE battery makes more pollution than my ram 3500 dually truck spits out in its entire lifetime. Go green? you also realize right? the electricity to recharge these comes from coal fired plants..... but sure lol. pretend its healthy alternative. not to mention what happens to these batteries when a pinhole happens and air hits that lithium and starts it on fire.... or the cost to then replace them every 5 to 10 years or less.
With longer range I’d be afraid of running off the edge of the earth!
They need Micro Nuclear Cells in order for electric to be viable. Electric stuff is ok for short range stuff. BUT is prone to overheat very easily and once battery fires start you are not putting it out and they're toxic asF.
sure hope they work on the price 🥴🥴
Ahhh poo! I would have loved to have a tiller model
You and I both
Battery tech just not there yet
yah man, true
It never will be. As an engineer, we call it Physics…. 😀
Man, if you can't charge with solar it is no good in the Dakotas on the Missouri River. We have Electrical outlets every where. NOT! I would build a 30' plus barge stile aluminum hull houseboat "less than 12" draft" and put 2 of these on it and do the Great Loop to prove how good it is. But if you have to use shore based recharging it is a no go.
Any lithium battery system can be charged with solar. That's no issue. The issue is how many panels you'd need to efficiently charge and the cost of said panels.
What are the enviromental risks with a boat going under maybe lost following a hurricane. On a confined lake even.
The other thing is California has rolling blackouts and are already asking people during hot months not to charge their cars. We simply don't have enough electricity in many places to support electric cars let alone adding boats to the equation.
More nuclear, more of the eye soar wind and solar???
How much for 5 electric 450 hp units on the boat……lol
No tiller? No way
They released a tiller on the smaller units but not on the x40
Technology not there yet to make it economical and dependable. I'll stick with my gas Merc.
They have to start somewhere though. My small electric outboards are much more dependable than my 4 stroke but I definitely get what your saying and don't disagree
It had 2.5 hours charge time left at 85% charge!
Not good!
I love everything electric and I already support the electric idea let’s make the planet green
you do realize right? it takes earth movers and heavy equipment to mine even one battery. The environmental cost in pollution to mine ONE battery makes more pollution than my ram 3500 dually truck spits out in its entire lifetime. Go green? you also realize right? the electricity to recharge these comes from coal fired plants..... but sure lol. pretend its healthy alternative. not to mention what happens to these batteries when a pinhole happens and air hits that lithium and starts it on fire.... or the cost to then replace them every 5 to 10 years or less.
And where do you think the electricity comes from that charges the battery, little fella? 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
1000 lbs is a lot of weight
I mean it is but ive seen guys put 1,000 pds in a jon boat. A gas 50hp is about 275 pds, plus 25 gallon tank times 6 pds per gallon. So about 425 pds not including steering cable or hydraulic. Let's call it 450. So yes, this package is about 500 pds more. It is what it is, it needs batteries. Good news is as time and technology increase hopefully that weight can be cut down. Pros and cons to everything though.
No way this is economically feasible……😂
The electric blender is good for making cream
I recommend this one-
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Waaay too much weight for only 50hp
50hp Mercury outboard with 100 gallons of fuel - 880 pounds.
EPropulsion X-40 with 4 electric batteries 1,098 pounds. Not including additional electronics required to charge and operate.
The last time that I checked.... A pontoon boat would only hold an average of 35 gallons of fuel. 100 gallons of fuel is a lot of wide open all day trips on the lake. With tons less weight.
If you people are considering this electric motor option... You need your heads examined!
People have different needs and not all do what you do.
@@chechnya Sounds like an excuse to me. An excuse to still be able to sleep at night. After grossly overspending on a boat that won't be out on a body of water but just a fraction of the time that a conventional boat will be.
Sounds like a perfect way to get rid of excess money to me. While staying on the bank. Watching other boaters passing by. You're not a financial manager are you? God, I hope not. But, you do you. Your money... Not mine.
Shane, don't let electric outboards live rent-free in your head, man. Don't be so triggered to leave responses like this. Keep in mind, there are many electric only lakes with houses on them that these boats are going to. Just like the man told you, not everyone is using their boat the same way you use yours. You are making a bunch of assumptions. And your right, it's their money, not yours. I've been in the marine industry long enough to know this- People that have the money to buy expensive boats and parts are never the ones in the TH-cam comments section complaining about the cost and functionality of things. And I'm not just talking electric outboards, anything in general. But, if it makes YOU sleep better at night by taking the time to leave your opinion on here, I'm glad I can provide the content for you to hate on.
@@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats The only two things that live rent-free in my head are common sense and the innate ability to trigger self righteous "marine industry folk". You know, the ones who over value themselves after they've built/customized just a handful of Jon Boats.
Those garbage cans that I couldn't possibly afford. Since I've lived on, and owned lakefront property, for 43 years. How many years did you say that you've you been in the "marine industry" again? Lmao! I've worn-out more boats than you've ever laid eyes on punk!
Now! You go to sleep tonight knowing that nobody was talking to you. Or, asked for your inept opinion of mine. You really aren't that important. On here. Or, in real life.
Oh no more fires breaking out on boats now. 😮😮😮
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Something about electricity and salt water just doesn't seem right 😀
Too expensive for the lack of speed and run time. Batteries are way too high. Good luck selling that.
It's definitely expensive. It's a small market aimed at a particular use, not necessarily for everyone or a replacement for gas at this point. Only time will tell.
Yeah….lets mix water with lithium Batteries ….especially salt water
Almost every new boat on the market comes with lithium batteries for accessory, starting, and trolling motor batteries. I've thrown lithium batteries in the lake on my channel. There are many types of lithiums from Lithium Ion , to Lithium Iron Phosphate, to Nickel Manganese, to Cobalt. Also different rating on environment. That's like saying good luck driving a car because gas is flammable. lol. No difference here.
@@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats vehicles do catch fire but can be put out if caught early enough….once a lithium battery starts on fires there’s no putting it out….it has to burn out and it’ll take everything with it..
Yes, I'm aware. We ship lithiums. UPS has to put a decal on the side indicating there are lithiums on board. My point is, everything is lithium now. Your phone. Drill batteries. Heck, my new bait aerator from Engel is lithium. Every bass boat on the BASS tour has 5 or 6 lithiums. It's standard regardless of how they can potentially burn. I've never seen a lithium marine battery catch on fire. Not saying it hasn't happened, just never seen it. You'd probably have better odds of getting in a car crash than your lithium catching on fire. But I don't go around telling people driving cars is a bad idea.
Water don’t go well with electricity
Bass boats have been running electric trolling motors for 40 years now, and not one person harmed.
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats do bass boats usually have 900-pound , 96 volt lithium ion batteries to run their trolling motors? LOL! 😂
@brucemitchell5637 what does the weight or voltage matter? The man said water and electricity don't go well. Not water and weight or water and 96v go well. Look at an actual bass boat. 36v (3 lithiums) for trolling motor, 1 lithium for graphs/sonar accessories, sometimes 2 depending in set up, another for starting. Most new bass boats for serious anglers are running 5 or 6 lithiums. It's just crazy how so many guys are jumping on here saying "WaatUr AN EleCtriccIty DoNNT MiX". Well, the electric trolling motor was invented by Minn Kota almost 90 years ago and people have been running electric battery poweredtrolling motors ever since. This is nothing new. Just scaled up for more power and primary source of propolsion. You guys are acting like this thing runs on an extention cord through the water. For the boat in the video, if weight is your issue, it doesn't matter if it weighed 1800lbs so long as the boat it goes on is rated for that weight capacity. I know these outboards live rent free in a lot of heads out there, I'm sure the battery powered drill triggered a lot of dinosaurs that swore by their plug in corded drill. They probably had the same arguments. Not enough power, run time, too expensive. Well go to Home Depot now. I'm not saying electric outboards will replace gas, nor do I care one way or another. I just cover the content and respect the engineering behind new marine equipment. Time will tell if these will ever take root.
That’s nowhere near enough run time.
yes
800 lb battery. Ok
Thanks for watching!
The technology isn’t there yet I see no advantage to this at all.
Ok. Thanks for checking it out and leaving feedback.
Electric is only one option, for powering boats, but there are other options. I seen a total of 3 different options, for powering vehicles, and it might work, for boats as well. Electric is shown on this video, so that is only 1 option.
Yes. This video is about an electric outboard in particular. Interesting to see other options come to market.
@@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats Coming to market might not happen with all of the options that currently exist, but perhaps I could be wrong. I seen 1 option only on the internet, and I never saw it anywhere else to power vehicles. I have yet to see it power boats. I think it can though!
I know there are people who are inspired, and I believe this is the point you would have to become to figure out what all of the options are to power boats.
I understand this video is about electric outboards, and I hope other people can explore other options if they don't like electric outboards.
made me laugh... 11 hours run time LMAO... FORD has that f150 truck with similar claims, so they tested it. In reality that truck with a 350 mile plus range on a full charge... ACTUALLY made it 83 miles before needing recharged for 2 plus hours. THey are all lying. THe sad thing here, the f150 you can get out and walk if you need to./ When this boat dies in the middle of nowhere... you are screwed and if a storm hits like every afternoon in florida.... can be deadly. Maybe 50 years from now something will actually work as claimed but electric is not there. ...cool idea though.
Idk man. I'm not a electric only advocate guy. I appreciate all advancements in the electric world and in technology in general. I can say this- My brother in law has had a lightning f150 for over a year. He drives it from Roswell GA to visit us in Athens GA. About a 150 mile trip. He's never ran out of battery. Always had plenty. As far as this outboard, I'm glad it made you laugh. Everything starts somewhere though. I'm not defending the cost, run time or weight, but I'm smart enough to know these things can't come straight out the gate perfect in every way. Eventually the cost and weight will come down, run time go up. Or not. Then you can still laugh. Thanks for watching though.
More drooling for the climate cult. Features that come also be adapted to standard gas.
Who waits for this junk. I’m still pissed about them forcing two strokes out of the market in the 2000’s. The my couldn’t beat them on merit especially the Japanese motors, so they had to ban the sale of them. It took 10 years for four strokes to even get close to the performance and they’re still much heavier.
you do realize right? it takes earth movers and heavy equipment to mine even one battery. The environmental cost in pollution to mine ONE battery makes more pollution than my ram 3500 dually truck spits out in its entire lifetime. Go green? you also realize right? the electricity to recharge these comes from coal fired plants..... but sure lol. pretend its healthy alternative. not to mention what happens to these batteries when a pinhole happens and air hits that lithium and starts it on fire.... or the cost to then replace them every 5 to 10 years or less.
Thanks for taking the time to leave that. None of that was said or mentioned in the video. I am simply covering a (at the time) yet to be released electric outboard. I'm just a media source, not an advocate one way or the other. I do appreciate technology innovations and understand there is an electric market as well as electric only lakes and reservoirs. Video is strictly outboard thoughts, demo, and performance. I wasn't editing it as an environmental or political piece. I cover marine things. That is it sir.
No tiller? no thanks.
Tiller option on the smaller X series for now
Love your channel. But this is not buyable for me. 1000 lbs 20k for powering it. Plus motor cost?. Sorry not for me
I totally get it man. In that regard, it's not for me either! Maybe an X 15 though! If i was in a different tax bracket and lived on a canal in Florida, the pontoon set up would be sweet. I definitely get the cost and weight though but as things evolve in the scene I will continue to cover products and builds to hopefully educate people and give them informative content. Thanks for following the channel!
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Absolutely brother. You and the TBN guys are awesome! Keep it up !!
God blass brother🙏
Nobody has been waiting for this
Thanks for watching 👍
So why are you here ?
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Nope.... No way I would run to my tuna grounds on electric outboards.... Have enough issues with saltwater n electric.... be well.
wrong
1970 checks in.
ok.....ill.....be well...............thanks.......
why do boomers type.....like......this? wtf is that??
Then don’t buy one and be quiet. Some people have electric only lakes, this is great for them.
We have enough problems with combustion engine in saltwater as well.
This technology will revolutionize the offshore fishing experience. Can't wait to see how it develops.
wow a coal burning boat, isn't that what we had in the beginning!
i think lii just keep my 250 dollar 48hp 2cycle evinrude that lasts and lasts-i can take the money isave and buy t bills @ 5% and have money for gas and beer-i guess if your rich and just like to show everybody your new foolish toy go ahead while this country is still kinda free
Only problem I see here is your investment strategy. T bills interest return depending on the years acquired are currently below the inflation rate. You'd lose money over time. Look into options trading, scalping, or day trading futures. Quadruple that return in a matter of hours. Thanks for watching.
@@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats welp my gold had doubled so i can afford to play it safe-but ill stilll just keep my old trusty cheap evinrude
Gold is good. Silver is rising as well following the gold trend. It's a long play but consistent returns. The Donald J Trump Media stock is up over 50% in 30 day run, imagine putting some money into that 30 days ago. Chip and AI market is overvalued and dropping, I wonder what will pump next?
Electric motors are garbage in a boat or a car anywhere you are they suck
In a train, in a plane, in a box, with a fox, I do not like electric outboards you see, because they suck so drastically
useless, not enough run time
useless would be no runtime
Hard PASS for me!
We will write you down as a "Strong No". Thank you
What, we are not waiting for this rubbish, this is going to cost us all !!! The planet will suffer because of this type of technology!!!!!
Junk lol