the problem is you only know the snippets of "hate". if you actually attend any nifb church, theyre pretty normal. i'd take "hate" rather than fake love any day.
It's not snippets of out of context hate it's a core doctrine of the NIFB it's called the hate doctrine and it's what the NIFB is all about to its core.
I still disagree with you first 5 points. That's just me. However, after watching you video in full. I'm glad you are not in the same vein as some of the NIFB. I have seen some real heartbreaking preaching that teaches pure hate. Yours is not that kind of message. Yours does warm my heart and gives hope. I wish you well in all you do. Peace.
I read this comment a week or two and it's been on my mind. Here's why I think the abusers of themselves with mankind isn't referring to "them"(I won't spell the word out because TH-cam autodeletes my comments) so we shouldn't be preaching to "them". Many prisoners would fit the definition perfectly, I think we all know what goes on in those showers and it's usually a dominance or punishment, as disgusting as it is. But that doesn't make them one of "them", as they lead normal lives outside of prison with family and children of their own. Another example is drug addicts. Some drug addicts will do unspeakable things for their next hit. I'm sure the list goes on and on. The big big difference between the two is that "they" have an unnatural lust towards one another, to me that is the defining difference, this is where the reprobate doctrine comes in, they are irredeemable. We should consider carefully that 1 Cor 6:9-11 likely isn't describing "them" as we have plenty of examples of normal men abusing themselves with mankind under different circumstances.
This is a good analysis of the situation. I don’t have complete agreement with everything said in response to some verses, but there’s no doubt that love needs to be the defining attribute of a Christian. I don’t even agree with what Jimenez said at the end of the video. Confrontations can and should be done even with new people you meet. I’m not saying in every circumstance you need to call out everything. But if a woman walks into church dressed inappropriately, there’s no harm in a man confronting her about that in the right spirit. People need to be confronted on their sin. If they get offended, so be it. Being a disciple of Christ requires “hatred” of the things of this life in order to please God.
You're just witnessing a modern day reformation only this time in the IFBC instead of Catholics. In 15 years they NIFB churches will dominate & the old IFB will be only a fraction of what it was
@@blackfam972 I don't have a dog in the fight but hide & watch the NIFB is going to consume the IFB. I mean the IFB covered for Hyles molesting his daughter so what's worse?
I don't think Kate is really going to Bible says God is love and that Jesus loves everybody. Oh I'm speaking this I don't know how it came out Kate that should have been hate. Has Christians I don't believe it was supposed to hate anybody. we can hate certain actions and so forth but not people. Peter the fisher of men and not Kate,haha.
You don't know what you don't know. The Bible abounds with non truth you just don't want to accept that fact because it would put your faith foundation in trouble. I am a Christian and if you believe In a God that created all than you would not judge a homosexual as a person put in the same category as Hitler.
Your 5 rules are wrong. A contridiction is just that. A contridiction. If the Bible said the sky is green. But you look up and see blue. Don't lie to yourself and believe it's green. It's blue. I thought I was going to hear something good about how hatred is bad, harmful to others. But the legal maze you went thru in the first minute is the same stuff people like Rev Anderson does to boaster his hate speech. The Bible is a manual of teaching, a good one. But it's does have its flaws being written by flawed men seeking God. In their words, their journey, is our journey. It is not a magic text as the rules you put forth seem to imply.
@@blackfam972 Did you read what you just wrote. If "I found one".?? If it's there, then it's there. I study the Bible when I can. But a litilist I am not.
@@ronaldec7 You don't even believe the bible please don't counsel others on how to interpret the bible as a nonbeliever because you can't understand it. it's blocked from you. You literally lack the ability to understand it. Its like someone color blind trying to comprehend color as you simply will not understand or a pyschopath trying to understand love. Its beyond your ability. .
@@blackfam972 I believe a lot of the Bible. Stuff like young earth creation or the flood has too much evidence against. You can not use a verse to suggest or know the mind of another. The Bible was written by 1st century men at the latest. The Bible has many truths. But I have a 21st century mind.
The Bible doesn't contradict itself, but you need dispensationalism to get rid of every "contradiction". The vers in Luke tacks about discipleship in Jesus's day, not for today.
@@blackfam972 You need dispensationalism to put the text in it's proper historical context, to see whom was Jesus talking to and at what time. You need to rightly divide, otherwise you are going to apply the Bible as a whole to yourself and come up with major contradictions like: you need to build an ark, to keep the Law, at the same time being saved by Grace through Faith, also to be careful not to take the mark of the beast. On the other hand if you have dispensationalism and know to put the Bible verses in their proper context: both biblical and historical you'll find that it's very easy to understand the Bible. God Bless.
the problem is you only know the snippets of "hate". if you actually attend any nifb church, theyre pretty normal. i'd take "hate" rather than fake love any day.
I've attended FWBC and the one in LA several times and no they ain't normal. They are a cult
It's not snippets of out of context hate it's a core doctrine of the NIFB it's called the hate doctrine and it's what the NIFB is all about to its core.
I still disagree with you first 5 points. That's just me. However, after watching you video in full. I'm glad you are not in the same vein as some of the NIFB. I have seen some real heartbreaking preaching that teaches pure hate. Yours is not that kind of message. Yours does warm my heart and gives hope. I wish you well in all you do.
Peace.
Lol, loved the office skit you added.
16:44 you should preach to homosexuals too. They aren't necessarily beyond repentance. 1 Cor 6:9-11
I read this comment a week or two and it's been on my mind. Here's why I think the abusers of themselves with mankind isn't referring to "them"(I won't spell the word out because TH-cam autodeletes my comments) so we shouldn't be preaching to "them".
Many prisoners would fit the definition perfectly, I think we all know what goes on in those showers and it's usually a dominance or punishment, as disgusting as it is. But that doesn't make them one of "them", as they lead normal lives outside of prison with family and children of their own.
Another example is drug addicts. Some drug addicts will do unspeakable things for their next hit.
I'm sure the list goes on and on.
The big big difference between the two is that "they" have an unnatural lust towards one another, to me that is the defining difference, this is where the reprobate doctrine comes in, they are irredeemable.
We should consider carefully that 1 Cor 6:9-11 likely isn't describing "them" as we have plenty of examples of normal men abusing themselves with mankind under different circumstances.
Apostle Paul blinded a man for getting in his way of preaching Christ. Why do you think that is?
Great video.
Thanks!!
This is a good analysis of the situation. I don’t have complete agreement with everything said in response to some verses, but there’s no doubt that love needs to be the defining attribute of a Christian.
I don’t even agree with what Jimenez said at the end of the video. Confrontations can and should be done even with new people you meet. I’m not saying in every circumstance you need to call out everything. But if a woman walks into church dressed inappropriately, there’s no harm in a man confronting her about that in the right spirit. People need to be confronted on their sin. If they get offended, so be it. Being a disciple of Christ requires “hatred” of the things of this life in order to please God.
You're just witnessing a modern day reformation only this time in the IFBC instead of Catholics. In 15 years they NIFB churches will dominate & the old IFB will be only a fraction of what it was
Not a change using F bombs from the pulpet in front of children who would take there kids to such a church? No one with any decency.
@@blackfam972 I don't have a dog in the fight but hide & watch the NIFB is going to consume the IFB. I mean the IFB covered for Hyles molesting his daughter so what's worse?
No decent people will go to churches with crazy eyed weirdo pastors cussing in from of there kids. Sorry nope. The NIFB is going to die.
@@blackfam972 which nifb pastor dropped the f bomb and when did he do it?
I don't think Kate is really going to Bible says God is love and that Jesus loves everybody. Oh I'm speaking this I don't know how it came out Kate that should have been hate. Has Christians I don't believe it was supposed to hate anybody. we can hate certain actions and so forth but not people. Peter the fisher of men and not Kate,haha.
You don't know what you don't know. The Bible abounds with non truth you just don't want to accept that fact because it would put your faith foundation in trouble. I am a Christian and if you believe In a God that created all than you would not judge a homosexual as a person put in the same category as Hitler.
I have no idea what you just said.
Good presentation.
It seems like the ideology trumps the words in the Book.
Your 5 rules are wrong.
A contridiction is just that. A contridiction.
If the Bible said the sky is green. But you look up and see blue. Don't lie to yourself and believe it's green. It's blue.
I thought I was going to hear something good about how hatred is bad, harmful to others.
But the legal maze you went thru in the first minute is the same stuff people like Rev Anderson does to boaster his hate speech.
The Bible is a manual of teaching, a good one. But it's does have its flaws being written by flawed men seeking God. In their words, their journey, is our journey.
It is not a magic text as the rules you put forth seem to imply.
False there are no contradictions is the bible. If you think you found one it means you don't fully understand whats being taught.
@@blackfam972 Did you read what you just wrote. If "I found one".??
If it's there, then it's there.
I study the Bible when I can. But a litilist I am not.
@@ronaldec7 You don't even believe the bible please don't counsel others on how to interpret the bible as a nonbeliever because you can't understand it. it's blocked from you. You literally lack the ability to understand it. Its like someone color blind trying to comprehend color as you simply will not understand or a pyschopath trying to understand love. Its beyond your ability. .
@@blackfam972 I believe a lot of the Bible. Stuff like young earth creation or the flood has too much evidence against. You can not use a verse to suggest or know the mind of another. The Bible was written by 1st century men at the latest. The Bible has many truths. But I have a 21st century mind.
@@ronaldec7 You don't believe the bible and therefore you can't understand it period.
The Bible doesn't contradict itself, but you need dispensationalism to get rid of every "contradiction". The vers in Luke tacks about discipleship in Jesus's day, not for today.
No dispensationalism is projected onto the text and is false.
@@blackfam972 You need dispensationalism to put the text in it's proper historical context, to see whom was Jesus talking to and at what time. You need to rightly divide, otherwise you are going to apply the Bible as a whole to yourself and come up with major contradictions like: you need to build an ark, to keep the Law, at the same time being saved by Grace through Faith, also to be careful not to take the mark of the beast. On the other hand if you have dispensationalism and know to put the Bible verses in their proper context: both biblical and historical you'll find that it's very easy to understand the Bible.
God Bless.
@@rafaeliacsity5315 You don't need made up doctrines to understand the bible.
Dispensationalism was introduced by John Darby in the 1830's, and was popularized by C. I. Scofield.
@Free Speech Merchant israel is not an ethnostate but I get your point as scofields false doctrine was certainly used for Zionism