February 6th, 2024. 8:10am. I got hit by an SUV on my morning commute to school #mx650 #bikevscar #accident #razorbike #fail #gopro #crash #scary #ebike #ebikelife #ebikeadventures #accident
The amount of smooth brained comments blaming the biker is crazy. R u gonna turn left at a green light when you see someone close to the light going 50 - 60 mph? No. Even though this biker is speeding it's not like hes doing 70 through a neighborhood he was doing like 40. The SUV pulled out in front of him when the biker had the right of way. Just because your house is right there don't mean you can just pull out in front of people lmao
Considering that the speed limit in residential areas is around 15 -20 and, by your own admission, he was going 40 that means he was still going twice as fast as he should have been so he definitely gets part of the blame
@@starchild3215 your right, but even if he was going 40 and that is twice as fast as a residental speed limit, 40 miles an hour isn't fast by any means, thats the normal road speed limit around most of America, people have more than enough time to react to someone thats driving straight at 40 miles an hour. now if the rider was going around 70 - 80 miles an hour then it would be more understandble. and I agree he should've been part of the blame, but defidently not for the most part, maybe more like a 20% biker fault 80% car fault.
@@starchild3215where I live, for streets like the one in this video the speed limit is 25, and usually everyone does 10 over. So going 40 on these types of streets even where i live would still seem a little excessive, but i wonder if the driver was actually going 40 or if the sensation of the speed in the recording just makes it seem like the driver was going that fast.
@@sirmely I just said. To get out of tickets. In states where you need helmets to ride, the helmet does well to avoid you a ticket. Some people just domt want to be uncomfortable is all. Some people feel safer too. It all works out in the end.
I notice that e-bike riders ride like unskilled motorcyclists. They still think they’re on a pedal bike only they’re going much faster and have not advanced their skill to compensate for the additional speed.
@@blipco5 I know that, but aside from trying to impose more awareness on people it seems kind of toxic to just solely blame the rider all the time, and yes I get it, the bottom line is it doesn't matter who's right if you're not alive to be right
Judging by the wind and speed, it looks like 40mph. So yeah, a little too fast for side streets in the rain. Your best bet isn't braking but controlled swerving towards the back of the SUV. Or danger option is to go for the sidewalk or yard. I've had to take the sidewalk a few times to avoid dumb drivers. Also always buckle that helmet. it doesn't do any good lying in the street as you continue to plinko off cars.
@@littlespinnyman I count at least 13 houses. The lots very in size but NONE of them seem to be less than 70ft wide Some even look at least 100ft wide. I will stick to 70. 13 lots x 70 That is 910ft, traveled in 13 seconds. 910 ft / 13 sec = 70 ft per sec. miles per hour = feet per second × 0.681818 47.72 miles per hour = 70 feet per second × 0.681818 That is 47.72 MPG on a 35 MPG residential road. In wet conditions..
how are y’all blaming the biker? Car wasn’t paying attention and didn’t use a blinker. It didn’t look like the biker was going that fast, wide angle lens makes it look like he’s going faster than he is. Definitely not the bikers’s fault.
1.a. Biker is on a illegal dirt bike on the street. Any vehicle that is going to be used on the streets that goes over 20 MPH has to be registered. This bike is clearly not registered. It does not have ANY of the required equipment. Like a proper Headlight, turn signals, Speedometer, tail light and so on. All that matters. Don't start with "It doesn't matter the car fail to yield " BS. Biker is already in the wrong to start. In the sate of california, where this happened, the state requires that any motor vehicle that can go above 20 MPH (this guy is going well over that) has to be registered. For it to be registered it has to pass an inspection. For it to pass that inspection it has to have mirrors, brakes front and back, signals ect and yes a speedometer. How else are you going to obey the speed limit if you can't tell how fast you are going? " According to citydocs cityoforange org, a dirt bike must have a speedometer to be street legal in California. In addition, the speedometer must be accurate to within plus or minus 5 miles per hour (8 km/hour) at a speed of 50 miles per hour (80 km/hour) and indicate the vehicle's speed in miles per hour or kilometers (km) per hour. Other equipment required to make a dirt bike street legal in California includes: Headlights Tail lights or stop lamps Blinkers Speedometer Mirrors Reflectors Horn License plate mount or light DOT approved tires DOT approved exhaust License plate " 1.b. So in order for you drive a legal vehicle you will also need a Drivers License. You know so that you know the rules of the road. 2. Biker was going 40MPH in a 25 mph residential street. 760 ft traveled in 13 seconds. Wide angle lens doen't matter when you know the distance and the time it too to travel that distance. My first calculations. These driveways are mostly 2 car driveways. on the small side that is 20ft more common is 24ft, but I am going with 20. The area beside the drives and in front of house (lawn) look to be on average 50ft. Mine looks to be the same as theirs (most of them). So 20 and 50, that's 70ft. 10 lots that's 700ft. He traveled that distance in 13 seconds, that's 58.46ft per second. miles per hour = feet per second × 0.681818 miles per hour = 58.46 feet per second × 0.681818 39.86 MPH = 58.46 feet per second × 0.681818 Now Go to the video on a PC, slow it down to .25, then count the lots/houses And they are big houses. So it may be worse than I am calculating. (turns Out I was very close. Not one of the lots is smaller than 72.6 ft. 3. Biker should have be driving lower than the 25 mph in wet conditions. 4. BIKER failed to yield the right of way. Car had the complete right of way. Forget all the left turn BS LOL. In California (where this happened), when passing parked cars on a two-lane road with no shoulder, oncoming traffic has the right of way if the parked cars are on your side of the road. If the parked cars are on the opposite side, you have priority. So the biker has a vehicle parked on his side/lane. The oncoming traffic (the car) does NOT. THE BIKER MUST YEILD THE RIGHT OF WAY. Right when the car comes into view the biker should have been slowing down because there is a car in his lane and he needed to give the right of way to the car. And THAT supersedes the car giving the right of way to the biker to make a left hand turn BECAUSE the biker should have ALREADY been giving the right of way to the car. 5. Last Clear Chance Doctrine The law says you have the obligation do everything you can to avoid the accident. In his speeding, on wet roads, he is negligent and should be held liable. If he was NOT speeding he could have avoided the accident. law dot cornell dot edu " last clear chance The last clear chance doctrine is used in tort law for cases involving negligence and is applied when both the plaintiff and defendant are responsible for an accident that resulted in harm. When applied in states with contributory negligence laws, it is often seen as a type of exception or limitation to those laws. The doctrine considers which party had the last opportunity to avoid the accident that caused the harm. Therefore, a negligent plaintiff may recover damages if they can show that the defendant had the last clear chance to avoid the accident. A defendant may also use the doctrine as a defense by showing that the plaintiff had the last clear chance to avoid the accident. " BIKER should have known all of this. So no matter what, bike is illegal to be on the roads, Speeding in wet conditions, failed to yield the right of way and failed to avoid the accident.. Biker 100% at fault. Last, if you slow the video down (to .25), when the car comes into view, you can see the car had ALREADY decided to make the turn. How can you tell? Because the car is already swinging wide BECAUSE of the grey car that was RIGHT before the driveway they were turning into. What does that mean? Well it means that if the biker could not see the car yet, that also means the car could NOT see the biker either. And because the car did not see the biker they started to make the turn. If it wasn't for the biker speeding so fast that, the distance was closed very fast the car had but a split second to stop and they did. Why because they were already slowing down to turn into the driveway. Seriously. Car decides to turn. There is no one there 312.2 feet away. And in less than 4 seconds there is a bike slamming into you. It takes NINE (9) seconds to travel 312.2 ft at 25 MPH. Car was already at the driveway when the biker hit them. In 7 seconds the car could have been completely in the driveway. Given the whole 9 secs, this would have never happened. Now if the biker was going the 5 miles under for wet conditions, that would have been 11 seconds.
@@tornado_dude2039 just admit you are a MORE ON and you don't understand. That all you have to do. I know you are going to have a hard time reading it since it requires intelligence, but it completely shows the biker was at fault. Bot ok. Running away from the truth is always easier than backing what you say.
@@tornado_dude2039 You should read it. Everything thing Aztec said makes a lot of sense. The part of the car having the right of way is a bit catch 22 but it does make a very good case against the biker.
@NortheastRailroadFanner going probably 10-15 over the speed limit the suv would have hit anyone coming around a bend. This guy should have known better driving a barely street legal vehicle. Both parties are at fault but the minibike driver is more at fault
Very avoidable, your speed was a factor and you weren’t looking ahead far enough, you could tell in plenty of time the vehicle was committed to turning. You need more experience. Hope you’re better.
Agreed on the speed factor, but his reaction time was good, you can hear that as soon as the SUV started turning he applied brakes. The deciding factor was that the road was wet and therefore more stopping distance was needed. In dry conditions it would've been a bit close but possible to stop.
@@_DB.COOPER so I can get lectured from some more certed riders lol ya thanks I'd rather be road pizza than listen to you experts spout your supreme knowledge
@@low225 I’m not saying the SUV was not wrong. I’m saying people on the road need to be held to same standard as cars as well. They can’t pick and choose which laws they want to follow and claim to have same protection of pedestrians when they clearly are motorized vehicles
@huckfin1598 california law "E-bikes are to be operated like conventional bicycles in California and are not considered motor vehicles under the California Vehicle Code. As such, e-bikes in California are exempted from various laws and requirements that apply to motorcycles and automobiles." So what law was he picking and choosing? Had he been on a mountain bike there would've been the same outcome...
@@low225 human-powered bicycles must comply with all traffic laws. E-bikes must do the same. The “exemptions” you quote below does not apply to traffic laws. Common sense says to ride ANY 2 wheeled vehicle as safely as possible because the rider always loses in a battle with a 2,000 - 5,000 pound vehicle. The only victory the 2 wheeler might have is in court, years after the long hospital stay, or rehabilitation, or worse - the funeral & burial are completed. If you ride in the rain on 2 wheels, all the rider does is add risk to an already risky endeavor.
Although the biker went way too fast, I fail to see how this is anything but the SUV drivers fault. Bro literally turned in without acknowledging oncoming traffic at all
as a biker it is his fault, going that fast on wet ground in a neighborhood is already bad and for some reason he didn't brake when the car was pulling in which is kinda weird
@abatall I disagree, I felt like they braked as soon as he could. It's also possible for both parties to be at falt. No matter what speed the biker was moving the suv should have not turned. But also the biker should have been going slower.
I’d say that’s totally the SUV fault. As a fellow rider, it can be scary, the lack of common sense people have. Bright red and yellow bike is very easy to see, especially in the daytime. Hope your doing alright
You do realize when riding on a bike you see shit the same speed you’d see it normally right? And breaking on a bike takes a minute especially in rain. SUV is at fault here
Road w plenty of turns(driveways), rain, residential road possible pedestrians, no roads markings, so many reasons to slow down, riding is not reacting it’s anticipating mostly
Driving around a neighborhood at the time Children are headed to school and on bikes should be enough reason to pay attention to what you're doing while driving your SUV...
you were speeding in the rain, but then the suv did not wait or put any blinker. they saw you and they couldve waited but didnt, both at fault in my opinion, glad your okay though!
"law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
No actaully i think its the cars fault, Thats how the street works Your not supposed To turn On the opposite dirrection Where other vechiles are gonna come lol, Theres 2 lanes for a reason
@@Zion-t3i Yes they do. Biker is on a illegal dirt bike on the street. Any vehicle that is going to be used on the streets that goes over 20 MPH has to be registered. This bike is clearly not registered. It does not have ANY of the required equipment. Like a proper Headlight, turn signals, Speedometer, tail light and so on. All that matters. Don't start with "It doesn't matter the car fail to yield " BS. Biker is already in the wrong to start. In the sate of california, where this happened, the state requires that any motor vehicle that can go above 20 MPH (this guy is going well over that) has to be registered. For it to be registered it has to pass an inspection. For it to pass that inspection it has to have mirrors, brakes front and back, signals ect and yes a speedometer. How else are you going to obey the speed limit if you can't tell how fast you are going? " According to citydocs cityoforange org, a dirt bike must have a speedometer to be street legal in California. In addition, the speedometer must be accurate to within plus or minus 5 miles per hour (8 km/hour) at a speed of 50 miles per hour (80 km/hour) and indicate the vehicle's speed in miles per hour or kilometers (km) per hour. Other equipment required to make a dirt bike street legal in California includes: Headlights Tail lights or stop lamps Blinkers Speedometer Mirrors Reflectors Horn License plate mount or light DOT approved tires DOT approved exhaust License plate " So yes they do if they are going to be ridden on the streets like this one is.
Always have your fingers on the brake, and too fast for the conditions and maybe for the location. Buckle that helmet. The SUV didn't indicate too. Basically both are at fault.
Anyone saying it’s his fault is trippin, the SUV straight up turned into him, no matter his speed or where he is looking it’s 100% the SUV fault for not noticing him and he probably should never drive again if he can’t notice an entire human on a bike.
yeah i dont ride in the rain its just common sense. save it for the sunny days or risk this happening rain = floor wet = bakes not working as well. your lucky your not in the hospital right now. looks like you had some type of slope going down as well so that added too your speed i think
The biggest issue with your bike is that little light. Drivers are not going to be able to see that, and you can be certain they won't be looking for it either. You need a light that is very bright and with a wide cast. The light you have on your bike is about the same as a bicycle, and people will look at your bike the same way. They won't be expecting you to be travelling that fast...if they see you. Personally, I ride electric bikes the same way I ride bicycles...with extreme caution and not in the rain.
Just an idea : when operating your suv in a neighborhood at the time that children are out and headed to school you should actually pay attention to what you're doing. Law puts the suv 100% at fault failed to yield. "law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
No one can say you can't take a hit. Dayum, that was brutal. I hope you're ok and the bike is good too. This is exactly why I go slow in neighborhoods and especially slow when it's raining. People just aren't looking for you and they'll turn right in front of you. When you get your driver's license and a bigger bike it doesn't change except you're going faster when they pull in front of you. Stay safe and try to keep the shiny side up!
Legality of the electric bike does not negate the fact the driver had their head up their ass. The car turned into an on coming pedestrian in broad day light. Doesn't matter if it was a cyclist a mom pushing a stroller or an ebike. The car failed to yield.
"Law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
Maybe learn some actual facts and ride on a dirt bike at least 5 times. Then comment on this. SUV driver shouldn’t have turned when he knew there was a dirt bike
@@Zion-t3i DUDE I just gave you a lesson on your other comment. But this one. DuDe what does riding a dirt bike have anything to do with common sense and the law? Biker shouldn't have been on the road at all and should have yielded the right of way to the SUV. Period.
@@AztecWarrior69_69 the car was coming down, stopped. The biker was riding down the road and didn’t stop. The SUV didn’t have the right of way, you don’t deserve a drivers license tbh
y’all know the person that got hit was a lil kid which is even the crazier part don’t know if the lil kid is dead hopefully not but that somethin crazy to happen to a lil kid fr
SUV’s fault. As said in US law, any car about to turn with a car or bike coming towards it, must NOT turn or else the driver who turned will be found guilty
@@Zion-t3iAnd ? The guy was doing 50 down a slow lane road where no driver expects someone to speed. Therefore he hardly notices him as is cause it’s raining.
@@Zion-t3i "show me exactly where he’s going 50 or did you pull it out of your ass" It is not hard to calculate speed. Biker was going 40MPH in a 25 mph residential street. 760 ft traveled in 13 seconds. Wide angle lens doesn't matter when you know the distance and the time it too to travel that distance. My first calculations. These driveways are mostly 2 car driveways. on the small side that is 20ft more common is 24ft, but I am going with 20. The area beside the drives and in front of house (lawn) look to be on average 50ft. Mine looks to be the same as theirs (most of them). So 20 and 50, that's 70ft. 10 lots that's 700ft. He traveled that distance in 13 seconds, that's 58.46ft per second. miles per hour = feet per second × 0.681818 miles per hour = 58.46 feet per second × 0.681818 39.86 MPH = 58.46 feet per second × 0.681818 Now Go to the video on a PC, slow it down to .25, then count the lots/houses And they are big houses. So it may be worse than I am calculating. (turns out I was very close. Not one of the lots is smaller than 72.6 ft.)
@@AztecWarrior69_69 damn someone seems to have went to college to take math, or used an ai generator to make that shit up. Either way, ain’t the bikers fault. Say the biker died, who’s at fault here? The biker or the SUV driver?
Law puts the suv 100% at fault . Failure to yield "law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
@@low225 Already corrected you on this several times but.... @low225 "Just an idea : when operating your suv in a neighborhood at the time that children are out and headed to school you should actually pay attention to what you're doing. Law puts the suv 100% at fault failed to yield. "law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable." " That doesn't matter. The car had the right of way. In California (where this happened), when passing parked cars on a two-lane road with no shoulder, oncoming traffic has the right of way if the parked cars are on your side of the road. If the parked cars are on the opposite side, you have priority. So the biker has a vehicle parked on his side/lane. The oncoming traffic (the car) does NOT. THE BIKER MUST YEILD THE RIGHT OF WAY. Right when the car comes into view the biker should have been slowing down because there is a car in his lane and he needed to give the right of way to the car. And THAT supersedes the car giving the right of way to the biker to make a left hand turn BECAUSE the biker should have ALREADY been giving the right of way to the car. Biker seeing the car in his lane should have already been slowing down to give the right of way to the car, and the car had already started making the turn. Again the car was already swinging wide to go around the grey/silver car, (slow video down .25. 0:21). A 0:22 the grey car is clearly in view, in his lane. Directly from the california driver handbook page 68 " Choose Between Hazards Sometimes dangers will be on both sides of the road at the same time. For example, PARKED CARS TO THE RIGHT and ONCOMING CARS TO THE LEFT. If one danger is greater than the other, give more space to the most dangerous situation. Suppose you are on a two-lane road with an oncoming vehicle to the left and a bicyclist ahead to your right. Instead of driving between the vehicle and the bicyclist, take one danger at a time. SLOW DOWN AND LET THE ONCOMING VEHICLE PASS. When the vehicle has passed, move to the left to allow plenty of space (at least three feet) to pass the bicyclist. If there is a steady flow of oncoming vehicles, use as much of the left lane as you safely can to pass the bicyclist. "
You're riding a bike that isn't street legal (no lights) on street, in the rain, without a helmet which actually stays on your head. This ain't all your fault, but you didn't do much to help the situation.
Failed to use their signal too. Probably willingly ignoring it and trying to get this guy to slow the hell down in residential areas. What if it was a dumb kid/animal that ran into the street or had their toy roll out into the road instead of this SUV? They were in no way, shape, or form prepared to brake and were carelessly flying down a hill. Don't defend this guy.
@joshuashackleford739 most flawed logic ever🤣 The SUV driver is a hero in your eyes for possibly intentionally turning in front of a KID on an electric bike? The suv driver was OBVIOUSLY not paying attention while driving through a neighborhood at a time when children are heading to school. The kid on the electric bike could have just as well been a kid on a regular bicycle who also would've panicked and not been able to stop in time to avoid a collision with an suv operated by a negligent driver.
It would all depend on the speed of the biker. Driving 10mph or more over the speed limit is considered reckless driving, which means he played a significant factor in the accident. Probably 50/50 blame.
No as in US laws it’s the SUV’s fault. As when he turned there’s no way to miss him, by law he had to wait for the rider to pass, no other way around it
Dam lil dude was flying! He took it like a champ tho!!! I would have been whining and bitching. Always have your helmet strapped and drive appropriately for weather and road conditions, i.e. speed limits. I believe residential is 25. He had to at least be going 35/40. A few bruises but hopefully he’s good. 90% driver fault, how do you not see him.
1. you're going ab 40, assuming this is the US considering those are i think california plates, i believe unless posted other the speed limit is 25, you're going 15 over. 2. yes the car could have slowed down but it was still doing well under the speed limit, and you were going well over 3. you're helmet wouldn't have came off if it was actually strapped correctly (or at all, can't tell) to all the people saying "the car could see him" yea the car could, the car was also driving perfectly legal and just turning into their driveway while someone decides to rip past going 15 over. i'm not saying i don't go above the speed limit but i'm sure as hell not complaining about it if i were to get hit when it's 100% my fault with yalls logic, if someone ran out in the middle of the road and purposefully got hit by a car, it would be cars fault even tho the person was putting themselves in unsafe conditions on purpose
California law puts it 100% on the suv. Failure to yeild. "law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
@@low225 legally liable doesn't means it was your fault legally, not actually. if i get brake-checked in florida they're gonna find me legally liable for the accident even tho it wasn't my fault or caused by me
@whiskeys250 if you get brake checked and hit the car in front of you it's your fault for following to close🤣 the suv didn't have the right of way but turned anyway causing the collision there would have been no accident if the suv had yielded to the oncoming bike. Unless you have a green arow oncoming traffic and pedestrians have the right of way. There is no way to twist this so that you are right🤣
Hope you're ok and that you learned your lesson. And the lesson is to never assume. Never assume they see you. Never assume they care. Never assume they aren't turning. Never assume they'll stay in their lane. See where im going with this? Just dont ever assume is the best way I can put it. Stay safe 🤘🏼
Hello, Rider! Wonderful clip! Would it be OK if we used it in a youtube video we're making and maybe share it on our social media? We'll credit you in the video and all descriptions. Thank you! :)
Man that was a nasty hit. Glad you came out of it fairly ok. Do you mind elaborating on what the outcome was after the crash? Injuries? Police involvement? Insurance?
Shouldn’t even be commuting with this. How is it different than communing on like a 125cc dirt bike. Get a dual sport with insurance, plate, lights, signals
@@low225 Are you ever right? Biker is on a illegal dirt bike on the street. Any vehicle that is going to be used on the streets that goes over 20 MPH has to be registered. This bike is clearly not registered. It does not have ANY of the required equipment. Like a proper Headlight, turn signals, Speedometer, tail light and so on. All that matters. Don't start with "It doesn't matter the car fail to yield " BS. Biker is already in the wrong to start. In the sate of california, where this happened, the state requires that any motor vehicle that can go above 20 MPH (this guy is going well over that) has to be registered. For it to be registered it has to pass an inspection. For it to pass that inspection it has to have mirrors, brakes front and back, signals ect and yes a speedometer. How else are you going to obey the speed limit if you can't tell how fast you are going? " According to citydocs cityoforange org, a dirt bike must have a speedometer to be street legal in California. In addition, the speedometer must be accurate to within plus or minus 5 miles per hour (8 km/hour) at a speed of 50 miles per hour (80 km/hour) and indicate the vehicle's speed in miles per hour or kilometers (km) per hour. Other equipment required to make a dirt bike street legal in California includes: Headlights Tail lights or stop lamps Blinkers Speedometer Mirrors Reflectors Horn License plate mount or light DOT approved tires DOT approved exhaust License plate "
WRONG suv is 100% at fault according to the law "law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
@raphaelG_ speeding alot? 🤣 what does that even mean? He's going 30 tops. Doesn't change the fact that the suv failed to yield. A friend hit a truck that made an unprotected left turn in front of him. It was determined my friend was going 10 over the speed limit. The truck was still found 100% at fault. My friend was not cited. Your logic is flawed.
@@low225 "how are you determining speed? Are you an expert?" Hey smooth brain. It doesn't take an expert to estimate speed. You tool. Biker was going 40MPH in a 25 mph residential street. 760 ft traveled in 13 seconds. Wide angle lens doesn't matter when you know the distance and the time it too to travel that distance. My first calculations. These driveways are mostly 2 car driveways. on the small side that is 20ft more common is 24ft, but I am going with 20. The area beside the drives and in front of house (lawn) look to be on average 50ft. Mine looks to be the same as theirs (most of them). So 20 and 50, that's 70ft. 10 lots that's 700ft. He traveled that distance in 13 seconds, that's 58.46ft per second. miles per hour = feet per second × 0.681818 miles per hour = 58.46 feet per second × 0.681818 39.86 MPH = 58.46 feet per second × 0.681818 Now Go to the video on a PC, slow it down to .25, then count the lots/houses And they are big houses. So it may be worse than I am calculating. (turns out I was very close. Not one of the lots is smaller than 72.6 ft.) f
One is a child on his way to schoolthe other is a licensed (hopefully) adult driving carelessly through a neighborhood at a time while children are out and headed to school on foot or riding skateboards scooters and bikes. Who is the actual idiot?
Only biker at fault here. You wat the full rundown, I can give it but the main thing is this.... Only biker was at fault here. SUV had already started to make the turn, way before the biker was even in sight. If you slow the video down to .25 @ 0:21 You can see the SUV was already swinging wide to clear the silver car parked next to the driveway. If it wasn't for the EXCESSIVE speed of the biker, the car would have had all the time in the world to make it. One second the road was clear and the next you have a SPEEDING bike coming around the bend at you. Now here it the thing that makes it the bikers fault no matter what. Car had the complete right of way. Forget all the left turn BS LOL. In California (where this happened), when passing parked cars on a two-lane road with no shoulder, oncoming traffic has the right of way if the parked cars are on your side of the road. If the parked cars are on the opposite side, you have priority. So the biker has a vehicle parked on his side/lane. The oncoming traffic (the car) does NOT. THE BIKER MUST YEILD THE RIGHT OF WAY. Right when the car comes into view the biker should have been slowing down because there is a car in his lane and he needed to give the right of way to the car. And THAT supersedes the car giving the right of way to the biker to make a left hand turn BECAUSE the biker should have ALREADY been giving the right of way to the car. Biker seeing the car in his lane should have already been slowing down to give the right of way to the car, and the car had already started making the turn. Again the car was already swinging wide to go around the grey/silver car, (slow video down .25. 0:21). A 0:22 the grey car is clearly in view, in his lane. Directly from the california driver handbook page 68 " Choose Between Hazards Sometimes dangers will be on both sides of the road at the same time. For example, PARKED CARS TO THE RIGHT and ONCOMING CARS TO THE LEFT. If one danger is greater than the other, give more space to the most dangerous situation. Suppose you are on a two-lane road with an oncoming vehicle to the left and a bicyclist ahead to your right. Instead of driving between the vehicle and the bicyclist, take one danger at a time. SLOW DOWN AND LET THE ONCOMING VEHICLE PASS. When the vehicle has passed, move to the left to allow plenty of space (at least three feet) to pass the bicyclist. If there is a steady flow of oncoming vehicles, use as much of the left lane as you safely can to pass the bicyclist. "
WRONG requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
@@low225 WRONG once again LOL. @low225 Here you are again. LOL wow you keep going with wrong info. You are smooth brained. @low225 Here you are again.... LOL @low225 Already corrected you on this several times but.... @low225 "Just an idea : when operating your suv in a neighborhood at the time that children are out and headed to school you should actually pay attention to what you're doing. Law puts the suv 100% at fault failed to yield. "law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable." " That doesn't matter. The car had the right of way. In California (where this happened), when passing parked cars on a two-lane road with no shoulder, oncoming traffic has the right of way if the parked cars are on your side of the road. If the parked cars are on the opposite side, you have priority. So the biker has a vehicle parked on his side/lane. The oncoming traffic (the car) does NOT. THE BIKER MUST YEILD THE RIGHT OF WAY. Right when the car comes into view the biker should have been slowing down because there is a car in his lane and he needed to give the right of way to the car. And THAT supersedes the car giving the right of way to the biker to make a left hand turn BECAUSE the biker should have ALREADY been giving the right of way to the car. Biker seeing the car in his lane should have already been slowing down to give the right of way to the car, and the car had already started making the turn. Again the car was already swinging wide to go around the grey/silver car, (slow video down .25. 0:21). A 0:22 the grey car is clearly in view, in his lane. Directly from the california driver handbook page 68 " Choose Between Hazards Sometimes dangers will be on both sides of the road at the same time. For example, PARKED CARS TO THE RIGHT and ONCOMING CARS TO THE LEFT. If one danger is greater than the other, give more space to the most dangerous situation. Suppose you are on a two-lane road with an oncoming vehicle to the left and a bicyclist ahead to your right. Instead of driving between the vehicle and the bicyclist, take one danger at a time. SLOW DOWN AND LET THE ONCOMING VEHICLE PASS. When the vehicle has passed, move to the left to allow plenty of space (at least three feet) to pass the bicyclist. If there is a steady flow of oncoming vehicles, use as much of the left lane as you safely can to pass the bicyclist. "
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The amount of smooth brained comments blaming the biker is crazy.
R u gonna turn left at a green light when you see someone close to the light going 50 - 60 mph? No. Even though this biker is speeding it's not like hes doing 70 through a neighborhood he was doing like 40. The SUV pulled out in front of him when the biker had the right of way. Just because your house is right there don't mean you can just pull out in front of people lmao
Hey look someone with a brain
Considering that the speed limit in residential areas is around 15 -20 and, by your own admission, he was going 40 that means he was still going twice as fast as he should have been so he definitely gets part of the blame
@@starchild3215 your right, but even if he was going 40 and that is twice as fast as a residental speed limit, 40 miles an hour isn't fast by any means, thats the normal road speed limit around most of America, people have more than enough time to react to someone thats driving straight at 40 miles an hour. now if the rider was going around 70 - 80 miles an hour then it would be more understandble.
and I agree he should've been part of the blame, but defidently not for the most part, maybe more like a 20% biker fault 80% car fault.
@@starchild3215where I live, for streets like the one in this video the speed limit is 25, and usually everyone does 10 over. So going 40 on these types of streets even where i live would still seem a little excessive, but i wonder if the driver was actually going 40 or if the sensation of the speed in the recording just makes it seem like the driver was going that fast.
@ufork I'm just going off of what OP said and he claimed the biker was going 40
Tisk tisk was that helmet buckled? No point if it aint buckled mate.
Yes there is. It gets you out of tickets
@@esallgoodmanDoesn’t save you from brain damage which is the entire point of the helmet 😭😭
bruh you sound like a facebook mom with that "tisk tisk" 😭
@@sirmely I just said. To get out of tickets. In states where you need helmets to ride, the helmet does well to avoid you a ticket. Some people just domt want to be uncomfortable is all. Some people feel safer too. It all works out in the end.
Two careless assholes meeting; this is how most accidents happen. Slow the hell down in residential.
He's doing probably like 25. The camera makes it look faster.
Agreed
@@axialpad99u could hear the speed increasing bro!
@@FUTURPILOT But that doesn't tell you how fast he's going.
@@axialpad99 Ik that but You can kinda assume the speed. IK not really but kinda.
I notice that e-bike riders ride like unskilled motorcyclists. They still think they’re on a pedal bike only they’re going much faster and have not advanced their skill to compensate for the additional speed.
This was not the fault of the biker. It was clearly the fault of the driver. The camera makes it seem much further than it actually is.
Not the biker's fault at all. Go pro effect is a big factor and he yanked both of his brakes.
i like how none of these comments give a shit about this lobotomized lexus driver who's a danger to everyone being that blind
@@callmenose That would be MOST drivers.
@@blipco5 I know that, but aside from trying to impose more awareness on people it seems kind of toxic to just solely blame the rider all the time, and yes I get it, the bottom line is it doesn't matter who's right if you're not alive to be right
Judging by the wind and speed, it looks like 40mph. So yeah, a little too fast for side streets in the rain. Your best bet isn't braking but controlled swerving towards the back of the SUV. Or danger option is to go for the sidewalk or yard. I've had to take the sidewalk a few times to avoid dumb drivers. Also always buckle that helmet. it doesn't do any good lying in the street as you continue to plinko off cars.
that was no where near 40mph
@@littlespinnyman I count at least 13 houses. The lots very in size but NONE of them seem to be less than 70ft wide Some even look at least 100ft wide.
I will stick to 70. 13 lots x 70 That is 910ft, traveled in 13 seconds. 910 ft / 13 sec = 70 ft per sec.
miles per hour = feet per second × 0.681818
47.72 miles per hour = 70 feet per second × 0.681818
That is 47.72 MPG on a 35 MPG residential road. In wet conditions..
how are y’all blaming the biker? Car wasn’t paying attention and didn’t use a blinker. It didn’t look like the biker was going that fast, wide angle lens makes it look like he’s going faster than he is. Definitely not the bikers’s fault.
1.a. Biker is on a illegal dirt bike on the street. Any vehicle that is going to be used on the streets that goes over 20 MPH has to be registered. This bike is clearly not registered. It does not have ANY of the required equipment. Like a proper Headlight, turn signals, Speedometer, tail light and so on. All that matters. Don't start with "It doesn't matter the car fail to yield " BS. Biker is already in the wrong to start.
In the sate of california, where this happened, the state requires that any motor vehicle that can go above 20 MPH (this guy is going well over that) has to be registered.
For it to be registered it has to pass an inspection.
For it to pass that inspection it has to have mirrors, brakes front and back, signals ect and yes a speedometer. How else are you going to obey the speed limit if you can't tell how fast you are going?
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According to citydocs cityoforange org, a dirt bike must have a speedometer to be street legal in California. In addition, the speedometer must be accurate to within plus or minus 5 miles per hour (8 km/hour) at a speed of 50 miles per hour (80 km/hour) and indicate the vehicle's speed in miles per hour or kilometers (km) per hour.
Other equipment required to make a dirt bike street legal in California includes:
Headlights
Tail lights or stop lamps
Blinkers
Speedometer
Mirrors
Reflectors
Horn
License plate mount or light
DOT approved tires
DOT approved exhaust
License plate
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1.b. So in order for you drive a legal vehicle you will also need a Drivers License. You know so that you know the rules of the road.
2. Biker was going 40MPH in a 25 mph residential street. 760 ft traveled in 13 seconds. Wide angle lens doen't matter when you know the distance and the time it too to travel that distance.
My first calculations.
These driveways are mostly 2 car driveways. on the small side that is 20ft more common is 24ft, but I am going with 20.
The area beside the drives and in front of house (lawn) look to be on average 50ft. Mine looks to be the same as theirs (most of them).
So 20 and 50, that's 70ft. 10 lots that's 700ft. He traveled that distance in 13 seconds, that's 58.46ft per second.
miles per hour = feet per second × 0.681818
miles per hour = 58.46 feet per second × 0.681818
39.86 MPH = 58.46 feet per second × 0.681818
Now Go to the video on a PC, slow it down to .25, then count the lots/houses
And they are big houses. So it may be worse than I am calculating. (turns Out I was very close. Not one of the lots is smaller than 72.6 ft.
3. Biker should have be driving lower than the 25 mph in wet conditions.
4. BIKER failed to yield the right of way.
Car had the complete right of way. Forget all the left turn BS LOL.
In California (where this happened), when passing parked cars on a two-lane road with no shoulder, oncoming traffic has the right of way if the parked cars are on your side of the road. If the parked cars are on the opposite side, you have priority.
So the biker has a vehicle parked on his side/lane. The oncoming traffic (the car) does NOT. THE BIKER MUST YEILD THE RIGHT OF WAY. Right when the car comes into view the biker should have been slowing down because there is a car in his lane and he needed to give the right of way to the car.
And THAT supersedes the car giving the right of way to the biker to make a left hand turn BECAUSE the biker should have ALREADY been giving the right of way to the car.
5. Last Clear Chance Doctrine
The law says you have the obligation do everything you can to avoid the accident. In his speeding, on wet roads, he is negligent and should be held liable. If he was NOT speeding he could have avoided the accident.
law dot cornell dot edu
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last clear chance
The last clear chance doctrine is used in tort law for cases involving negligence and is applied when both the plaintiff and defendant are responsible for an accident that resulted in harm. When applied in states with contributory negligence laws, it is often seen as a type of exception or limitation to those laws. The doctrine considers which party had the last opportunity to avoid the accident that caused the harm.
Therefore, a negligent plaintiff may recover damages if they can show that the defendant had the last clear chance to avoid the accident. A defendant may also use the doctrine as a defense by showing that the plaintiff had the last clear chance to avoid the accident.
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BIKER should have known all of this.
So no matter what, bike is illegal to be on the roads, Speeding in wet conditions, failed to yield the right of way and failed to avoid the accident..
Biker 100% at fault.
Last, if you slow the video down (to .25), when the car comes into view, you can see the car had ALREADY decided to make the turn. How can you tell? Because the car is already swinging wide BECAUSE of the grey car that was RIGHT before the driveway they were turning into.
What does that mean? Well it means that if the biker could not see the car yet, that also means the car could NOT see the biker either. And because the car did not see the biker they started to make the turn.
If it wasn't for the biker speeding so fast that, the distance was closed very fast the car had but a split second to stop and they did. Why because they were already slowing down to turn into the driveway.
Seriously. Car decides to turn. There is no one there 312.2 feet away. And in less than 4 seconds there is a bike slamming into you. It takes NINE (9) seconds to travel 312.2 ft at 25 MPH. Car was already at the driveway when the biker hit them. In 7 seconds the car could have been completely in the driveway. Given the whole 9 secs, this would have never happened. Now if the biker was going the 5 miles under for wet conditions, that would have been 11 seconds.
@@AztecWarrior69_69 i ain’t reading all that 🤣
@tornado_dude2039 just admit you are too stupid to understand. That all you have to do.
@@tornado_dude2039 just admit you are a MORE ON and you don't understand. That all you have to do. I know you are going to have a hard time reading it since it requires intelligence, but it completely shows the biker was at fault. Bot ok. Running away from the truth is always easier than backing what you say.
@@tornado_dude2039 You should read it. Everything thing Aztec said makes a lot of sense. The part of the car having the right of way is a bit catch 22 but it does make a very good case against the biker.
That’s called driving too fast for conditions.
you just don't know how to drive, do you?
Probably doesn’t even have lights for the thing but expects to be seen and treated like a vehicle while speeding 🙄
@@huckfin1598 I get that too, but the car seen him no doubt.
@@NortheastRailroadFanneryou are just mad
@NortheastRailroadFanner going probably 10-15 over the speed limit the suv would have hit anyone coming around a bend. This guy should have known better driving a barely street legal vehicle. Both parties are at fault but the minibike driver is more at fault
“I was speeding on wet ground through a residential district and rode full speed into an SUV”
"... that neglently made a left turn in front of me while I had the right of way"
Fixed it for you
@low225
Lol. Keep crying about how right you are when laid up in a hospital. Being right is shit compared to being alive and healthy. 🤷♂️
@mattkaiser8984 I agree being "dead right" is worse than being wrong and living. But that's completely different than your original statement.
@@low225 with no signal light.
he was no where near speeding, you guys forget how slow an e-bike actually goes
Very avoidable, your speed was a factor and you weren’t looking ahead far enough, you could tell in plenty of time the vehicle was committed to turning. You need more experience. Hope you’re better.
Agreed
Were was he supposed to vector fs?that sub took away 95%of his options in 2 seconds, more like suv owners
@@ferrallderrall6588 you must be new to riding. I suggest you take a course.
Agreed on the speed factor, but his reaction time was good, you can hear that as soon as the SUV started turning he applied brakes. The deciding factor was that the road was wet and therefore more stopping distance was needed. In dry conditions it would've been a bit close but possible to stop.
@@_DB.COOPER so I can get lectured from some more certed riders lol ya thanks I'd rather be road pizza than listen to you experts spout your supreme knowledge
Slow down in the rain…….and expect that cars do not see you. You might live longer.
Probably doesn’t even have lights for the thing but expects to be seen and treated like a vehicle while speeding 🙄
@huckfin1598 you can clearly see a headlight on his number plate in the video. He was going like 20mph tops
@@low225 I’m not saying the SUV was not wrong. I’m saying people on the road need to be held to same standard as cars as well. They can’t pick and choose which laws they want to follow and claim to have same protection of pedestrians when they clearly are motorized vehicles
@huckfin1598 california law "E-bikes are to be operated like conventional bicycles in California and are not considered motor vehicles under the California Vehicle Code. As such, e-bikes in California are exempted from various laws and requirements that apply to motorcycles and automobiles."
So what law was he picking and choosing? Had he been on a mountain bike there would've been the same outcome...
@@low225 human-powered bicycles must comply with all traffic laws. E-bikes must do the same. The “exemptions” you quote below does not apply to traffic laws. Common sense says to ride ANY 2 wheeled vehicle as safely as possible because the rider always loses in a battle with a 2,000 - 5,000 pound vehicle. The only victory the 2 wheeler might have is in court, years after the long hospital stay, or rehabilitation, or worse - the funeral & burial are completed. If you ride in the rain on 2 wheels, all the rider does is add risk to an already risky endeavor.
I have a stock version of this bike, those brakes need to be upgraded asap
Upgraded brakes don't matter if he's already skidding
Hope you're ok after that, but visibility is the reason real motorcycles burn headlamps at all times.
Did you seriously forget to buckle your helmet??? make sure you slow down, wear appropriate PPE, and ALWAYS EXPECT OTHERS TO DO THE WRONG THING!!!
Mans was flyyying im the residental thank god you
Didnt hurt anyone else
Although the biker went way too fast, I fail to see how this is anything but the SUV drivers fault. Bro literally turned in without acknowledging oncoming traffic at all
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Yes, you can use it!
@@LVNTV-TH-cam Thanks a lot :)
@@LVNTV-TH-camYO I JUST WATCHED THE VIDEO ITS SO GOOD
Yo I watch you
So glad you’re ok! That was scary.
" i turn now, good luck everybody else"
Just here to see comments of people blaming the biker after a car blatantly pulled out in front of this guy
as a biker it is his fault, going that fast on wet ground in a neighborhood is already bad and for some reason he didn't brake when the car was pulling in which is kinda weird
@@abatall he using a gopro they have a really high fov so he's only going maybe 20 25
@abatall I disagree, I felt like they braked as soon as he could. It's also possible for both parties to be at falt. No matter what speed the biker was moving the suv should have not turned. But also the biker should have been going slower.
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 yea both parties are at fault i guess that makes sense
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 after rewatching i realized he did brake mb
I’d say that’s totally the SUV fault. As a fellow rider, it can be scary, the lack of common sense people have. Bright red and yellow bike is very easy to see, especially in the daytime. Hope your doing alright
Thanks Sherlock Holmes
@@glideslope6845 Your welcome! 😂
@@camsofficial 🤣🤣
Yes, the car is kinda of retarted, but why the hell are u going so fast in a residental area
”He came out of nowhere”
You do realize when riding on a bike you see shit the same speed you’d see it normally right? And breaking on a bike takes a minute especially in rain. SUV is at fault here
30mph on two wheels while its raining , i mean surely nothing can go wrong right ?
Road w plenty of turns(driveways), rain, residential road possible pedestrians, no roads markings, so many reasons to slow down, riding is not reacting it’s anticipating mostly
Driving around a neighborhood at the time Children are headed to school and on bikes should be enough reason to pay attention to what you're doing while driving your SUV...
0:25 locked brakes
you were speeding in the rain, but then the suv did not wait or put any blinker. they saw you and they couldve waited but didnt, both at fault in my opinion, glad your okay though!
Speeding? I doubt he was going over 30. Car swerved so always the car's fault in this case! Don't ever go on the road and drive pls.
Disagree, Cars have more responsibility. If this was a normal bike it would have played out the same. 100% fault on driver of the van
Probably doesn’t even have lights for the thing but expects to be seen and treated like a vehicle while speeding 🙄
"law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
No actaully i think its the cars fault, Thats how the street works Your not supposed To turn On the opposite dirrection Where other vechiles are gonna come lol, Theres 2 lanes
for a reason
I don't understand how this is street legal, is there even a speedometer? Seems excessively fast for the conditions
Dirt bikes don’t need speedometers
@@Zion-t3i Yes they do.
Biker is on a illegal dirt bike on the street. Any vehicle that is going to be used on the streets that goes over 20 MPH has to be registered. This bike is clearly not registered. It does not have ANY of the required equipment. Like a proper Headlight, turn signals, Speedometer, tail light and so on. All that matters. Don't start with "It doesn't matter the car fail to yield " BS. Biker is already in the wrong to start.
In the sate of california, where this happened, the state requires that any motor vehicle that can go above 20 MPH (this guy is going well over that) has to be registered.
For it to be registered it has to pass an inspection.
For it to pass that inspection it has to have mirrors, brakes front and back, signals ect and yes a speedometer. How else are you going to obey the speed limit if you can't tell how fast you are going?
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According to citydocs cityoforange org, a dirt bike must have a speedometer to be street legal in California. In addition, the speedometer must be accurate to within plus or minus 5 miles per hour (8 km/hour) at a speed of 50 miles per hour (80 km/hour) and indicate the vehicle's speed in miles per hour or kilometers (km) per hour.
Other equipment required to make a dirt bike street legal in California includes:
Headlights
Tail lights or stop lamps
Blinkers
Speedometer
Mirrors
Reflectors
Horn
License plate mount or light
DOT approved tires
DOT approved exhaust
License plate
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So yes they do if they are going to be ridden on the streets like this one is.
Everyone already said it kid. Hope you learned better.
Hell yea! Nice flip man!
Welcome to experience the hard way. The school of hard knocks doesn't offer diplomas but a person willing to learn can miss some classes.
Always have your fingers on the brake, and too fast for the conditions and maybe for the location. Buckle that helmet. The SUV didn't indicate too. Basically both are at fault.
Anyone saying it’s his fault is trippin, the SUV straight up turned into him, no matter his speed or where he is looking it’s 100% the SUV fault for not noticing him and he probably should never drive again if he can’t notice an entire human on a bike.
yeah i dont ride in the rain its just common sense. save it for the sunny days or risk this happening rain = floor wet = bakes not working as well. your lucky your not in the hospital right now. looks like you had some type of slope going down as well so that added too your speed i think
The biggest issue with your bike is that little light. Drivers are not going to be able to see that, and you can be certain they won't be looking for it either. You need a light that is very bright and with a wide cast. The light you have on your bike is about the same as a bicycle, and people will look at your bike the same way. They won't be expecting you to be travelling that fast...if they see you. Personally, I ride electric bikes the same way I ride bicycles...with extreme caution and not in the rain.
Love how the helmet goes flying, pointless to even wear without the strap smh
…you do realize this was on his way to highschool right? Which means he probably forgot to buckle it. It’s something you easily forget
@@Zion-t3imonths later I still stand by what I said lol
@@MBhykes as I said it’s an easy mistake to forget to buckle your helmet especially if it’s early morning
Just an idea: don’t go 50 mph in a suburban neighborhood where the Speed limit is probably 20
He is probably riding the Razor MX650 witch has a top of of 17 mph
Just an idea : when operating your suv in a neighborhood at the time that children are out and headed to school you should actually pay attention to what you're doing.
Law puts the suv 100% at fault failed to yield.
"law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
@@stickman9185 open your eyes that is NOT 17 mph😭
He's doing 25 at best. Look how slowly he approaches the silver car right before the accident.
@@lmao8656 gopros have a high fov just like in cod for comparison 90 fov feels slow af and 120 fov feels fast af same for cameras
Can you post the rest of the video and bleep out any of the personal info? I like seeing/hearing the aftermath of crashes
He’s definitely gonna’ win that Darwin Award he’s chasing…
Yooo that was wild bro
You really should start buckling your helmet.
Driving excessively fast on wet pavement. This was the bikers fault and totally avoidable.
The suv didn't notice him, but this wouldn't have happened if he drove like he should've on wet road
No one can say you can't take a hit. Dayum, that was brutal. I hope you're ok and the bike is good too. This is exactly why I go slow in neighborhoods and especially slow when it's raining. People just aren't looking for you and they'll turn right in front of you. When you get your driver's license and a bigger bike it doesn't change except you're going faster when they pull in front of you. Stay safe and try to keep the shiny side up!
Do you have a longer version bcs I'm curious if you went to court or how this conversation went
hopefully that taught you not to speed especially in wet weather
People are asking the wrong questions. Did you have lights on? Is it street legal? If not then you’re in the wrong.
You cant crash into someone even if it is not street legal vehicular homicide is still a thing
@@FattyOn2Wheels no one disagrees with you
Legality of the electric bike does not negate the fact the driver had their head up their ass. The car turned into an on coming pedestrian in broad day light. Doesn't matter if it was a cyclist a mom pushing a stroller or an ebike. The car failed to yield.
"Law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
thats on the suv they saw u coming and still didnt stop
Got hit? You hit someone, not you 😂
Maybe learn some actual facts and ride on a dirt bike at least 5 times. Then comment on this. SUV driver shouldn’t have turned when he knew there was a dirt bike
@@Zion-t3i DUDE I just gave you a lesson on your other comment. But this one. DuDe what does riding a dirt bike have anything to do with common sense and the law?
Biker shouldn't have been on the road at all and should have yielded the right of way to the SUV. Period.
@@AztecWarrior69_69 the car was coming down, stopped. The biker was riding down the road and didn’t stop. The SUV didn’t have the right of way, you don’t deserve a drivers license tbh
@@AztecWarrior69_69 where was the yield sign? Kid on bike had right of way 100%. If we are in the realm of should, the SUV should have yielded.
y’all know the person that got hit was a lil kid which is even the crazier part don’t know if the lil kid is dead hopefully not but that somethin crazy to happen to a lil kid fr
To fast for wet weather .learn the lesson
Probably doesn’t even have lights for the thing but expects to be seen and treated like a vehicle while speeding 🙄
very deadly since the unstrapped or broken helmet
How would the car driver survive on the roads of mumbai if he can crash into someone at an empty street 😂
Mumbai isn’t empty and he wouldn’t be able to build enough speed
Doing close to 50mph in the rain in a residential... that's on you (and your parents)... also, sweet helmet strap my dude. smh
he was not going 50 maybe 20-25 its on a really hight fov so it seems really fast
Especially in rain motorcycle brakes are useless
Stop speeding in the suburbs. Problem solved.
SUV’s fault. As said in US law, any car about to turn with a car or bike coming towards it, must NOT turn or else the driver who turned will be found guilty
@@Zion-t3iAnd ? The guy was doing 50 down a slow lane road where no driver expects someone to speed. Therefore he hardly notices him as is cause it’s raining.
@@JohnKExp show me exactly where he’s going 50 or did you pull it out of your ass
@@Zion-t3i "show me exactly where he’s going 50 or did you pull it out of your ass"
It is not hard to calculate speed.
Biker was going 40MPH in a 25 mph residential street. 760 ft traveled in 13 seconds. Wide angle lens doesn't matter when you know the distance and the time it too to travel that distance.
My first calculations.
These driveways are mostly 2 car driveways. on the small side that is 20ft more common is 24ft, but I am going with 20.
The area beside the drives and in front of house (lawn) look to be on average 50ft. Mine looks to be the same as theirs (most of them).
So 20 and 50, that's 70ft. 10 lots that's 700ft. He traveled that distance in 13 seconds, that's 58.46ft per second.
miles per hour = feet per second × 0.681818
miles per hour = 58.46 feet per second × 0.681818
39.86 MPH = 58.46 feet per second × 0.681818
Now Go to the video on a PC, slow it down to .25, then count the lots/houses
And they are big houses. So it may be worse than I am calculating. (turns out I was very close. Not one of the lots is smaller than 72.6 ft.)
@@AztecWarrior69_69 damn someone seems to have went to college to take math, or used an ai generator to make that shit up. Either way, ain’t the bikers fault. Say the biker died, who’s at fault here? The biker or the SUV driver?
maybe you were going too fast but that guy should have seen you ...
As a rider as well that is all the suvs fault but be careful when it’s raining and is your bike electric
Yes my bike is electric
that car didn’t have its blinkers on, if was in that situation I wouldn’t be able to tell, but you were going a bit to fast
You were speeding in the rain. 100% your fault
Law puts the suv 100% at fault . Failure to yield
"law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
@@low225 Already corrected you on this several times but....
@low225 "Just an idea : when operating your suv in a neighborhood at the time that children are out and headed to school you should actually pay attention to what you're doing.
Law puts the suv 100% at fault failed to yield.
"law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
"
That doesn't matter. The car had the right of way.
In California (where this happened), when passing parked cars on a two-lane road with no shoulder, oncoming traffic has the right of way if the parked cars are on your side of the road. If the parked cars are on the opposite side, you have priority.
So the biker has a vehicle parked on his side/lane. The oncoming traffic (the car) does NOT. THE BIKER MUST YEILD THE RIGHT OF WAY. Right when the car comes into view the biker should have been slowing down because there is a car in his lane and he needed to give the right of way to the car.
And THAT supersedes the car giving the right of way to the biker to make a left hand turn BECAUSE the biker should have ALREADY been giving the right of way to the car. Biker seeing the car in his lane should have already been slowing down to give the right of way to the car, and the car had already started making the turn. Again the car was already swinging wide to go around the grey/silver car, (slow video down .25. 0:21). A 0:22 the grey car is clearly in view, in his lane.
Directly from the california driver handbook page 68
"
Choose Between Hazards
Sometimes dangers will be on both sides of the road at the same time. For example, PARKED CARS TO THE RIGHT and ONCOMING CARS TO THE LEFT.
If one danger is greater than the other, give more space to the most dangerous situation. Suppose you are on a two-lane road with an oncoming vehicle to the left and a bicyclist ahead to your right. Instead of driving between the vehicle and the bicyclist, take one danger at a time. SLOW DOWN AND LET THE ONCOMING VEHICLE PASS. When the vehicle has passed, move to the left to allow plenty of space (at least three feet) to pass the bicyclist. If there is a steady flow of oncoming vehicles, use as much of the left lane as you safely can to pass the bicyclist.
"
You hit him, good thing you didn't hit a child.. I hope you are okay though and lesson learned and all..
You're riding a bike that isn't street legal (no lights) on street, in the rain, without a helmet which actually stays on your head. This ain't all your fault, but you didn't do much to help the situation.
You can clearly see a headlight on his number plate in the video
Why is your helmet just coming off like that? A helmet is no good if you aren't going to use the straps correctly.
I see a lot of people blaming you. Nothing you did "wrong" out weighs the fact that an un attentive driver pulled infront of on coming trafic.
Failed to use their signal too. Probably willingly ignoring it and trying to get this guy to slow the hell down in residential areas. What if it was a dumb kid/animal that ran into the street or had their toy roll out into the road instead of this SUV? They were in no way, shape, or form prepared to brake and were carelessly flying down a hill. Don't defend this guy.
@joshuashackleford739 most flawed logic ever🤣 The SUV driver is a hero in your eyes for possibly intentionally turning in front of a KID on an electric bike? The suv driver was OBVIOUSLY not paying attention while driving through a neighborhood at a time when children are heading to school. The kid on the electric bike could have just as well been a kid on a regular bicycle who also would've panicked and not been able to stop in time to avoid a collision with an suv operated by a negligent driver.
bet he flew further than the helmet
That bush to the right was looking prettttty nice actually 😂
Hello man, how are you?
I would like to know if you allow me to use your video in my compilations, I will leave the credits to you. Thank you!
I'm good thanks for asking, yes you may use this video!
Scary bro! Glad you're okay! May I use this video in my next episode? Watermarked and linked to your channel of course.
yeah sure, you can use it
Thank you!@@LVNTV-TH-cam
Thats why you buckle that chin strap, lucky it could have been a lot worse
Completely your fault
you were asking for it
lol you live in sycamore creek too? i’ve been seeing this video all over yt shorts and thought it was the gated community
what did you do to the lexus driver?
Hello brother is it okay to include your video on my channel? Fully credited of course!
Yes, you may use it
It would all depend on the speed of the biker. Driving 10mph or more over the speed limit is considered reckless driving, which means he played a significant factor in the accident. Probably 50/50 blame.
No as in US laws it’s the SUV’s fault. As when he turned there’s no way to miss him, by law he had to wait for the rider to pass, no other way around it
Hi, may I include this in a compilation? It'll be credited and linked back to your channel
Sure!
Dam lil dude was flying! He took it like a champ tho!!! I would have been whining and bitching. Always have your helmet strapped and drive appropriately for weather and road conditions, i.e. speed limits. I believe residential is 25. He had to at least be going 35/40. A few bruises but hopefully he’s good. 90% driver fault, how do you not see him.
my helmet was strapped after the impact on the ground my strap popped off
1. you're going ab 40, assuming this is the US considering those are i think california plates, i believe unless posted other the speed limit is 25, you're going 15 over.
2. yes the car could have slowed down but it was still doing well under the speed limit, and you were going well over
3. you're helmet wouldn't have came off if it was actually strapped correctly (or at all, can't tell)
to all the people saying "the car could see him"
yea the car could, the car was also driving perfectly legal and just turning into their driveway while someone decides to rip past going 15 over.
i'm not saying i don't go above the speed limit but i'm sure as hell not complaining about it if i were to get hit when it's 100% my fault
with yalls logic, if someone ran out in the middle of the road and purposefully got hit by a car, it would be cars fault even tho the person was putting themselves in unsafe conditions on purpose
California law puts it 100% on the suv. Failure to yeild.
"law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
@@low225 just cause it makes the SUV liable doesn't mean it's their fault actually, just legally.
@whiskeys250 being found liable = being responsible for causing the accident. Very cute mental gymnastics there bud🤣
@@low225 legally liable doesn't means it was your fault legally, not actually. if i get brake-checked in florida they're gonna find me legally liable for the accident even tho it wasn't my fault or caused by me
@whiskeys250 if you get brake checked and hit the car in front of you it's your fault for following to close🤣 the suv didn't have the right of way but turned anyway causing the collision there would have been no accident if the suv had yielded to the oncoming bike. Unless you have a green arow oncoming traffic and pedestrians have the right of way. There is no way to twist this so that you are right🤣
Hope you're ok and that you learned your lesson. And the lesson is to never assume. Never assume they see you. Never assume they care. Never assume they aren't turning. Never assume they'll stay in their lane. See where im going with this? Just dont ever assume is the best way I can put it. Stay safe 🤘🏼
Hello, Rider!
Wonderful clip! Would it be OK if we used it in a youtube video we're making and maybe share it on our social media? We'll credit you in the video and all descriptions. Thank you! :)
Sure!
Did your fkn helmet come off?
Suv could of used there blinkers but dont go that fast
Suv could have yielded to his right of way like it is required to by law.
Man that was a nasty hit. Glad you came out of it fairly ok. Do you mind elaborating on what the outcome was after the crash? Injuries? Police involvement? Insurance?
Damn! That was gnarly, hope you and the bike are good!
yo whats the aftermath? who got the blame?
Shouldn’t even be commuting with this. How is it different than communing on like a 125cc dirt bike. Get a dual sport with insurance, plate, lights, signals
Hes a child riding a children's toy to school. I see more kids on electric two wheeled vehicles going to and from school than on bikes or on foot.
The person driving the suv shouldn't be driving a vehicle since they are so careless
@@low225 Are you ever right?
Biker is on a illegal dirt bike on the street. Any vehicle that is going to be used on the streets that goes over 20 MPH has to be registered. This bike is clearly not registered. It does not have ANY of the required equipment. Like a proper Headlight, turn signals, Speedometer, tail light and so on. All that matters. Don't start with "It doesn't matter the car fail to yield " BS. Biker is already in the wrong to start.
In the sate of california, where this happened, the state requires that any motor vehicle that can go above 20 MPH (this guy is going well over that) has to be registered.
For it to be registered it has to pass an inspection.
For it to pass that inspection it has to have mirrors, brakes front and back, signals ect and yes a speedometer. How else are you going to obey the speed limit if you can't tell how fast you are going?
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According to citydocs cityoforange org, a dirt bike must have a speedometer to be street legal in California. In addition, the speedometer must be accurate to within plus or minus 5 miles per hour (8 km/hour) at a speed of 50 miles per hour (80 km/hour) and indicate the vehicle's speed in miles per hour or kilometers (km) per hour.
Other equipment required to make a dirt bike street legal in California includes:
Headlights
Tail lights or stop lamps
Blinkers
Speedometer
Mirrors
Reflectors
Horn
License plate mount or light
DOT approved tires
DOT approved exhaust
License plate
"
so what was the aftermath?
Strap your helmet
make an update video pls
damn i wonder why you couldnt stop in time. criminal.
bro helmets are not supposed to fly off like that incase of a crash, did you not have the strap connected to your neck?
Yeah man both of you are wrong but ur the most wrong here
WRONG
suv is 100% at fault according to the law
"law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
@@low225 Biker was speeding A LOT, that's just a fact we can all see
@raphaelG_ how are you determining speed? Are you an expert?
@raphaelG_ speeding alot? 🤣 what does that even mean? He's going 30 tops. Doesn't change the fact that the suv failed to yield. A friend hit a truck that made an unprotected left turn in front of him. It was determined my friend was going 10 over the speed limit. The truck was still found 100% at fault. My friend was not cited. Your logic is flawed.
@@low225 "how are you determining speed? Are you an expert?"
Hey smooth brain. It doesn't take an expert to estimate speed. You tool.
Biker was going 40MPH in a 25 mph residential street. 760 ft traveled in 13 seconds. Wide angle lens doesn't matter when you know the distance and the time it too to travel that distance.
My first calculations.
These driveways are mostly 2 car driveways. on the small side that is 20ft more common is 24ft, but I am going with 20.
The area beside the drives and in front of house (lawn) look to be on average 50ft. Mine looks to be the same as theirs (most of them).
So 20 and 50, that's 70ft. 10 lots that's 700ft. He traveled that distance in 13 seconds, that's 58.46ft per second.
miles per hour = feet per second × 0.681818
miles per hour = 58.46 feet per second × 0.681818
39.86 MPH = 58.46 feet per second × 0.681818
Now Go to the video on a PC, slow it down to .25, then count the lots/houses
And they are big houses. So it may be worse than I am calculating. (turns out I was very close. Not one of the lots is smaller than 72.6 ft.)
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SUV failed to yield, motorcyclist failed to consider raining conditions
Conclusion, both are idiots and at fault
One is a child on his way to schoolthe other is a licensed (hopefully) adult driving carelessly through a neighborhood at a time while children are out and headed to school on foot or riding skateboards scooters and bikes. Who is the actual idiot?
@@low225 " Who is the actual idiot?"
You are.
Only biker at fault here. You wat the full rundown, I can give it but the main thing is this....
Only biker was at fault here. SUV had already started to make the turn, way before the biker was even in sight. If you slow the video down to .25 @ 0:21 You can see the SUV was already swinging wide to clear the silver car parked next to the driveway. If it wasn't for the EXCESSIVE speed of the biker, the car would have had all the time in the world to make it. One second the road was clear and the next you have a SPEEDING bike coming around the bend at you.
Now here it the thing that makes it the bikers fault no matter what.
Car had the complete right of way. Forget all the left turn BS LOL.
In California (where this happened), when passing parked cars on a two-lane road with no shoulder, oncoming traffic has the right of way if the parked cars are on your side of the road. If the parked cars are on the opposite side, you have priority.
So the biker has a vehicle parked on his side/lane. The oncoming traffic (the car) does NOT. THE BIKER MUST YEILD THE RIGHT OF WAY. Right when the car comes into view the biker should have been slowing down because there is a car in his lane and he needed to give the right of way to the car.
And THAT supersedes the car giving the right of way to the biker to make a left hand turn BECAUSE the biker should have ALREADY been giving the right of way to the car. Biker seeing the car in his lane should have already been slowing down to give the right of way to the car, and the car had already started making the turn. Again the car was already swinging wide to go around the grey/silver car, (slow video down .25. 0:21). A 0:22 the grey car is clearly in view, in his lane.
Directly from the california driver handbook page 68
"
Choose Between Hazards
Sometimes dangers will be on both sides of the road at the same time. For example, PARKED CARS TO THE RIGHT and ONCOMING CARS TO THE LEFT.
If one danger is greater than the other, give more space to the most dangerous situation. Suppose you are on a two-lane road with an oncoming vehicle to the left and a bicyclist ahead to your right. Instead of driving between the vehicle and the bicyclist, take one danger at a time. SLOW DOWN AND LET THE ONCOMING VEHICLE PASS. When the vehicle has passed, move to the left to allow plenty of space (at least three feet) to pass the bicyclist. If there is a steady flow of oncoming vehicles, use as much of the left lane as you safely can to pass the bicyclist.
"
but the car didnt even use its turn signal either
Your bike is Will and Grace gay.
Hey mate, is it OK to feature your clip in a moto edit some time soon? We will credit you in all the descriptions. :)
Sure!
100% your fault here.
WRONG
requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
Suv didn't use a blinker, didn't see the biker, didn't wait for him, didn't avoid the crash
@@axialpad99 Well the biker doesn't even have blinkers so....
@@low225 WRONG once again LOL.
@low225 Here you are again. LOL wow you keep going with wrong info. You are smooth brained.
@low225 Here you are again.... LOL
@low225 Already corrected you on this several times but....
@low225 "Just an idea : when operating your suv in a neighborhood at the time that children are out and headed to school you should actually pay attention to what you're doing.
Law puts the suv 100% at fault failed to yield.
"law requires that vehicles intending to make a left-hand turn yield the right of way to vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, and wait until it's safe to make their turn. As a result, when left-turn crashes occur, the driver making the left-hand turn is almost always found liable."
"
That doesn't matter. The car had the right of way.
In California (where this happened), when passing parked cars on a two-lane road with no shoulder, oncoming traffic has the right of way if the parked cars are on your side of the road. If the parked cars are on the opposite side, you have priority.
So the biker has a vehicle parked on his side/lane. The oncoming traffic (the car) does NOT. THE BIKER MUST YEILD THE RIGHT OF WAY. Right when the car comes into view the biker should have been slowing down because there is a car in his lane and he needed to give the right of way to the car.
And THAT supersedes the car giving the right of way to the biker to make a left hand turn BECAUSE the biker should have ALREADY been giving the right of way to the car. Biker seeing the car in his lane should have already been slowing down to give the right of way to the car, and the car had already started making the turn. Again the car was already swinging wide to go around the grey/silver car, (slow video down .25. 0:21). A 0:22 the grey car is clearly in view, in his lane.
Directly from the california driver handbook page 68
"
Choose Between Hazards
Sometimes dangers will be on both sides of the road at the same time. For example, PARKED CARS TO THE RIGHT and ONCOMING CARS TO THE LEFT.
If one danger is greater than the other, give more space to the most dangerous situation. Suppose you are on a two-lane road with an oncoming vehicle to the left and a bicyclist ahead to your right. Instead of driving between the vehicle and the bicyclist, take one danger at a time. SLOW DOWN AND LET THE ONCOMING VEHICLE PASS. When the vehicle has passed, move to the left to allow plenty of space (at least three feet) to pass the bicyclist. If there is a steady flow of oncoming vehicles, use as much of the left lane as you safely can to pass the bicyclist.
"
@@AztecWarrior69_69 neither do almost any bikes on the road?
Hey mate! Would it be okay to use it in compilation? Full credited ofc!
Yes?
Sure!
Lol reminds me of the NES VIDEO game " PAPER BOY" LOL
Do you have more video of after the crash
Yes i do i just said some personal info
Heyy there would you be cool with me featuring you in my next video? I'll definitely give you full credit. Thanks a bunch!
Yes you may use it
my klx 300 is whisper quiet. this nearly happens to me anytime i ride in a neighborhood bc of it.