TITLEIST TSi STOCK SHAFT TESTING - What's The Difference
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In this video I test the 4 stock shafts from Titleist in their new TSi3 Driver to see what the differences are in performance.
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Great insight. Need more content like this.
love all this data Mike thanks some good things to think about!
Awesome video! Hopefully, you will continue this series of video with the new drivers.
Love these shafts comparison video Michael, this and the wedge video some of the best!!!!! Would love to also see this in irons
Most useful video I've watched in a long time... top class Michael
Thank you
Really wanted this test. 👏
Thank you -- great video -- very helpful.
Great job!
Just got a TSi3. At 67 years, the Tensei S is just perfect for me.
BTW it’s:
TensEi as in “say,” not
TensAi as in “sigh.”
Proves how good that BB21 is for your swing. Great video.
Excellent comparison vid! Thank you!
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I do love how all of your videos start off with a great hit. I’m not so fortunate that way … 😂🤣😭
Great video. After wading through Tons of data from multiple sources, it seems like the only thing that really matters in shafts is flex, torque, weight and length of shaft. All of these other mid/high/low launch and spin claims don’t seem to hold a lot of water when you look at the numbers.
Been fitted for my TS3 2 years ago and gaming the Tensei Blue also in my 4 wood and hybrid. Been gaming Aldila shafts up to this point but they seem to have disappeared now - there are still some tour player with their older shafts. My speed is around 95 (trending towards 100) so feel that is best fit for me at this moment
Great video. I’m evaluating buying a used TSI3 and having this video really helps since I can no longer get fit for these.
GREAT investment. I got a used TSi3 and it’s an absolute gamer. So accurate and forgiving, and not that much different than the TSR3 which is much more expensive
I got fitted with the standard tensei standard on R flex on TSI 3 , thanks
Great video, I got fitted into the Tensei White, and had a feeling that maybe there was a better shaft for me but after looking at this video and great analysis makes me feel so comfortable about my shift.
Great video, need more reviews on shafts Michael - engine of the club after all.
Gearbox....
Was fit into the TSi2, had almost the exact same experience as you did here. RDX was really good until I hit the raw white. Its a tight shaft, great combo.
I was fitted with the HAZ smoke RDX in 70gr for the TSi2 at the end of the fitting. Every individual swing needs a different shaft/head match based on their own swing. The wonderful thing of a personalized fitting. Most can't take the same shaft to another head and have it perform the same. My swing at 105 and yours, even if the same speed, could require a different shaft due to swing variables...
what a great comparison
TENSEI WHITE!!! Coming back to this video, as I am a cheapo & buy things on sale.
Anyways, I bought a Tsi3 3W with the Tensei White Stiff shaft last year & I've honestly never loved a shaft / head more; so stable! My current driver is a Sim 2 Max with a Kuro Kage 60g Stiff (67g IRL, spins a ton with my gained speed & better swing changes). I recently went to a demo for Cobra & got fitted into the new HZRDUS Gen 4 Black X-Stiff 60g (true weight), which seems very similar spec-wise to the Tensei White (other than weight, which is fine, as I play 67g anyways & the HZRDUS did feel lighter).
I'm looking at getting a Tsi3 driver used or on sale & I'm going to my local shop to try out their final stock to see which shaft is better, but man, the Tensei White feel so smooth & stable, it's most likely going to be an easy choice. Great video as usual!
What length were you fitted for on the HZRDUS Michael? Did you add weight in the head to bring swing weight up?
Just bought tsi2 3 metal. The only reason I went over the big bertha was the shaft options. Ended up hzrds smoke
Great video! I think Titleist is partnering up with AD GD to some degree. Love to see you test the premium AD GD shafts as well.
they have been doing it for a long long time in Korea and Japan.
Nice review
When I ordered mine I had it shipped with the 65 Tensei Blue Stiff. I expected to just put my trusty AD IZ6S in. But after testing it I honestly might like the Tensei better than my Graphite Design!
Great vid. I have the tsi3 8degree with hazardous rdx shaft and I love it so much. My swing speed is around 112-117mph. My last driver was 10.5 degree but I told the fitter I want low loft so I am forced to hit up on the ball. Seen a vid about it and it worked I no longer hit down on the ball and no longer spin the ball in the 5000 range. Spin now at 2200-2500 my angle of attack went from -4 to +2.8. Massive increase in distance and funny enough I hit it straighter. Don't get me wrong I still hit it into trouble but Its easier to get out of trouble close to the green
Really, really useful test. The shaft is perhaps more important than the head. It is the engine. If you like the look and sound of a head, that may be a good choice for you. But then the absolute key factor to test and settle on is what is the best shaft for that head and your swing. Thank you Michael.
You are incorrect, the head is the most important. If it were the other way around, then most heads would perform similarly on the same shaft. The shaft is not the engine, this saying was created by someone just to sell shafts. You are the engine; the shaft is the transmission.
Just ordered my tsi2 absolutely loved the feel and sound
Got fitted for the tensi white x stiff was a great experience
Can’t wait to get it out on the green stuff
Nice one!
I'm a fan of the Tensei Blue 55 S in a TS2 along with a Ping 410+ with the stock red S shaft. Long and straight!
Great video ! I got fitted for a TSi2 with HS Rad stiff and just couldn’t keep the ball in the fairways . Switched to the std HS regular and was able to keep the ball middle of the fairways. Another fitter then gave me a demo Kura Kahe Reg saying I would swing faster and further. Dispersion was similar but did not get the extra distance and that surprised me! There’s so much to getting it right.
About to get fitted. Great video on the shafts available for the TSi2 and 3. But also considering the Ping G425 and the TM Sim. More info I have, the better. Thanks for video!
Wish I had that swing. Cheers
Hi
I like your swing, smooth and effortless power/speed.. 👍👍👍
Great reviews.. 👍
What do you do to Keep up your swingspeed..?
I have lost some speed and need to jump out of my Shoes to get over 110mph😂😂
But can swing smooth with 106mph, Im just wondering If you have some tips for getting a little speed back.
The juniors are haulin in on me, need my Daddy power to Keep bully Them on the course.. 😁😁
More videos on shafts!
I purchased tsi2 with tensei av blue 55s, and am waiting it to deliver. However, my swing speed is 91 mph so I am not sure that shaft is fit on me or not. For last 4 years I used ping tour 65s but it was little heavy.
I got fitted for the tsi3 with the hzrdus smoke shaft as a higher handicapper which was a bit concerning but was advised my misses were high and low not toe and heel. I was always a high spinner of the driver (3800 plus) and this club got me down to 2500 and much higher ball speed and carry. Can’t wait to get my hands on it!
I suffered from the exact same problems as you, low and high (mostly low) with excessive spin (approaching 5000 in some shots). Got fitted for the hzrdus smoke and found a lot of consistency with it. Club arrived this week and I’m anxious to give it a go on the course
@@amancuso07 I hope it works for you! I love mine. My misses are still right but not excessive balloon slices like they were before. And when I get it right, it goes a mile.
@@tonyfrese287 I hope so too, taking it to the range tomorrow, and I have high hopes based on the results during my fitting. I suffer from the exact same balloon slices with my current driver. I’m glad to hear it’s working out for you!
@@tonyfrese287 this driver and shaft combo absolutely shattered my expectations! I gained a good 10 or 15 yards of distance, and incredible consistency with my ball flight (no longer have that balloon slice on my misses). I’m more than impressed with the results, and my buddies were all shocked too!
@@amancuso07 that’s awesome man. The club really is a rocket ship! Good luck with it!
I picked the tsi3 up yesterday from American golf shame i can't use it 😕 opted for the tensei blue 55 stiff which i gamed all this year in my ts3 and love the feel and kick of this shaft. Also tried the hzrdus and tensei white but both felt too heavy and boardy. I swing around 96 / 97 mph so only average speed
Shame about current state of affairs. Have similar swing speed but have the regular Tensei Blue in my TS3 but that was fitted over two years ago now. TSi is a beast so hope you can swing it soon
@@golfendeavor8267 let's hope so i will be like a kid in a sweet shop when i can swing it I'm sure 👍
So, I guess that swing weight is a thing of the past? Do club manufacturers make any changes to allow for different shaft weights? Is the same head weight used regardless of the installed shaft? What about custom lengths?
For fittings yes. When ordered the swing weight is correct
Did didn't did did didn't great work 👍
But I’ve got evenflow hand crafted stiff on my PXG 3 wood and utility ??
Great info, but is a tensei 65g Reg shaft ok for a slower swing speed
yes but also try the 55 option or the kurokage
This video highlights the error in logic that a shaft which is too flexible automatically hooks. Overly flexible shafts always go high right for me, and overly stiff shafts go low left.
I agree. I found that too, in fact it's more common from people I've seen. All the players on my family seem to push or slice with too soft a flex.
A year later. But yep I’m exactly the same. Too soft shaft and the ball spins off to the right. Right stiffness and it goes dead straight
Would you keep the same weight of your shaft of your driver the same as your fairway wood?
Most players tend to go 10 grams higher from driver to fw to hybrid. Ex 60 g driver, 70 g 3w and 80 or 90 g hybrid. But its all up to the player.
My speed is pretty close to yours. Curious why they fitted you to Stiff vs. X-Stiff? I am currently playing Tensei CK Pro orange in stiff.
They fitted me for X.......but in the RDX shaft
Transition and how he sets the clubhead
Yeah... You have to use shafts that are weighted similarly.
I only feel comfy using a 70gr shaft.
Me Newton , can you please do a head to head . Taylormade P790 vs Mizuno JPX 921 forged , just bought the Mizunos wanna know it was a good choice . Cheers.
Very different profiles. 790 are hollow head and more jumpy. For me 921s is the best of all worlds: awesome forged feel and long enough. Great choice.
@@czavala42 thanks I was thinking them using the chromoly metal with their forging process would be the best iron out there right now . For 2000$ they should be lol
Effortless 114 club head speed
Yeah snap hooks are caused by the weight of the shaft ugh! lol
Is the Tensei White Raw the real deal or a "made for" version?
Titleist doesn’t do any “made for” shafts. Any shaft you get from them is exactly the same one you would get from the manufacturer. I emailed Titleist and MCA to confirm.
Thanks a lot. Crystal clear
This is a good point. And I cant for the life of me understand why. Club manufacturers should just sell club heads.
@@kieranhimself3655 this would be a total disaster for 80% of the market.
It won’t force people to get fitted it will make people grab a cheap shaft off the shelf or online and then complain to the club manufacturer when their driver sucks
@@purrly8578 I'm curious now about the Tensei Blue AV 60 stamp on the Sim2? MCA doesn't even have specs or show this on their website. I actually found a Sim2Max with 60 but just assumed it might have been swapped out.
The hazardous smoke label says 3.5 torque on the shaft. Then the chart says 4.1. Confusion. There are not to many smoke models, why not just put the right info in the top label
The biggest con in golf is the shaft. Pick a design you like and that’s it. Shafts are way way way oversold as being important in generating a good strike.
Why not do the testing with the proper shafts for you.
the video was about the stock shafts that typically offers will be trying in testing or fitting environment, not about what perfectly suits myself.
Literally all of those are too light. I play the 85 gram Fujikura speeder in my 917d3. And good god the torque on the hazardous. Who's creating these stats? That's a high launch. The Grafalloy blue was 2.8 degrees of torque. That's low launch.
I PERFER THE TS3 IT LOOKS BETTER
The amount of ads on this video. My god
Sorry, out of my control
@@MichaelNewtonGolf i understand and I appreciate your content, was just this video in particular.
6 yards 18 feet so what