@@bonkers5451it stands for Bad Manners. In my experience its specifically used for when one person does something silly or reckless with the attitude that they're so much better than the opponent that they won't lose anyway.
@@ChristmasPterodactyl or, basically, trolling, In other games (like card games/turn based games) it can be things like stall (especially in pokemon) in a way, And in PVZ heroes (relatively forgotten pvz Spinoff that's kept alive by a channel named Fryemup), you can Purposefully do a RNG play when you COULD be able to just defeat the enemy hero then and there, stalling the game even further.
Instadrop actually wears off after long enough. If the user goes 1000 seconds (16 minutes 40 seconds) without being KOd, they lose the instadrop ability for the rest of the match.
13:16 you can actually fully stop this final smash like this, it’s very difficult but it was in a beefy smash dudes video on smash review and they managed to fully stop it with bowser. The final smash never ran out (or at least yeah it’ll take forever to run out) and both players were just stuck until they moved bowsers fire breath
What's the name of the specific video this was in? Don't bother linking it, TH-cam shadowbans links in comments under most circumstances. Just the name.
How did you even find this?? Like even if I was playing in these niche circumstances I doubt I would've noticed the missing hitbox. I just like instadrop for the funny movement
Regarding Instadrop, it kinda treated like a transformation/wearable like giant/Bunny Hood, some of which are removed with Final Smashes. Like transformations/wearables, it runs out over time, it just has an unreasonably long timer of 60000 frames, or 1000 seconds (16m40s). If it runs out, you can no longer Instadrop, even after respawning. Though if you respawn before it runs out, the timer refreshes. Not sure if that is related to Peach/Daisy given the ability to Instadrop still persists without a hitbox.
@@SureyD It is 60000 in the parameter files. Meshima (a data miner) made a spreadsheet a while ago with the values for spirits. I don't think I can link his tweet here, but the tweet ID is 1232660901666254848. In that spreadsheet, the relevant values can be found by searching for mach_stamp in the "spirits" tab. There is another tab with the internal code names, but it is hidden (so you need to make your own copy of the sheet and unhide it) and is not in a very user-friendly format.
@@SureyD It is 60000 in the files. I also tested it a while back and it was about 16m40s (it would be weird for my recording to skip a full minute (64000 frames is 17m46s)). I tried replying yesterday with a source but I think it got filtered, so just trust me (or search for Meshima_'s data).
Possibly not a very obscure fact, but ryu’s position isn’t locked when using either of his final smashes. If you place him on a rolling crate and shinku hadoken, the knock back from the shinku will be applied to the cart, and by extension Ryu.This even lets you combo the opponent during and after your own final smash. This doesn’t work with similar final smashes like Mario’s. If you set the cart already rolling when you shin shoryuken an opponent, you can even lose a stock during the final smash, or have the final smash continue but leave the confines of the camera. It’s fun to mess around with
I have a fact 1. Open stamina mode 2. pick stage (mementos preferred) 3. pick cloud for you 4. pick anyone else (you need 3 controllers btw) and wait for the match to load up. 5. have the player with the lowest hp get final smashed by cloud 6. go up to the high platform and start attacking the player in the FS 7. the player in the FS gets insta KO 'ed and cloud will be attacking nothing. (Also works with Robin, Ike, Greninja, Ommislash ver 5, and Mii Brawlers FS) This is because normally when you lose all of your hp you just get insta killed. Try it out!
‼️Here is a cool thing: If you go in training room with G&W, set the opponent to “stop”, then run up to them and jab once, they might randomly short hop.
The smash meter is so flawed because you lose half of it when you die and the person taking more damage gets more. It also leads to camping. It just feels so stack on rather than intentionally put it to make for a better experience
You don't ALWAYS lose half when you die. First, you only lose meter charge upon death if you died with a full charge. Considering the invincibility most Final Smashes confer, you can just mash FS as a self-rescue maneuver, rather than using it as an attack. Second, the amount you lose depends on position. If you were winning, you lose half. If you were tied, you lose a quarter of it, and if you're losing, you lose an eighth (meaning a couple good hits gives it right back).
11:39 What if you had a second Ridley use a final smash? I imagine it would just get rid of the first crashing ship; all cutscene final smashes probably would actually
Beefy Smash Dudes got the Pacman thing to work by angling Pacman's final smash down by one and doing the fire breath. It's infinite, that is until Bowser lets go because the final smash won't finish until it gets through the whole thing.
I like the recaps and “remasters” of old facts! Regrettably I wasn’t around when you first started the channel, so there’s many facts that I’ve never heard. Love your videos, man! Keep it up and have fun with it!
I definitely wouldn't have thought of the fact that Cloud's final smash is more situational and the AI might not have used it as much. That was a really clever catch
Whenever the game first came out, Alpharad did a Final Smash Tier list, but ig it wouldn't hurt to make a Final Smash Tier list to see how they fare nowadays. Ye, Zelda's Final Smash is still top tier. Peach/Daisy's follows close behind
if you do that tier-list, do it based on how cool it is rather than how good they are, more than half of them would be in the position and yes i would watch that. i like hearing you talk about things
Whenever I play smash I play a 20-stock 8 player free for all with final smashes on so I am well acquainted with cutscene final smashes bringing you out of free fall, it's even saved me a stock a couple times
Should've also mentioned that Pac-Man is immune to Daisy/Peach's final smash. He can place his hydrant and it'll blow water on him and wake up. Well, I assume you haven't said it before.
The intangibility definitely comes into play. The "success" animation playing is what's super unique about it to me. But really, yeah, it is like a dodge with benefits lmao, that's a funny way to put it
Another very notable “effect” that gets cleared by cutscene final smashes is ledge grabbing. You just fall off ledge and need to pay attention and recover.
Personally I enjoy these videos a lot, because even if I already know/remember the facts I’m really here for the commentary and delivery of the facts which is enjoyable and fun each time, I’m here for PKBeats more than smash facts tbh
I think the pacman final smash thing works better if pacman is going slightly downward, but I haven't tested it myself so take that with a grain of salt.
I'd be down to see a "Ranking all final smashes based on visuals". I really enjoyed your stage appearence ranking video, so it'd be cool to see it for final smashes too.
3:20 so I guess this means that the optimal way to play ice climbers with smash meter on must be to just kill nana at the beginning of the stock, right?
Hey, follower from 4 years ago here! I honestly didn't mind re-learning about facts you already mentioned in past videos at all, it remained on the topic of final smashes so it's less "random", in that it's encased into one category, even if some of the facts in it did show up at some point :)
10:11 i think that Incineroar's FS is an actual command grab, while othe FS have both grab-like proprieties and normal hit ones. Think about it, Incineroar's FS doesn't damage the opponent when it grabs them. Other FS that you tested do.
@@toastr1255 that's exactly what I was thinking about too! Other FS are pseudo grabs, probably sharing some code with grabs but not actually full-on grabs. While Incineroar's FS is just a command grab with a cutscene attached to it.
Based on what I know from programming, my based on nothing total speculation theory to why Peach's final smash cancels that hitbox is maybe the hitbox asset that checks to see if someone is in range of peach's fall asleep range is named the same thing as that hitbox that's attached to Mario. So when the final smash happens it rewrites what that hitbox is supposed to do, and then goes away with her fs ending. Which would explain why it comes back when losing a stock, as it gets reloaded. Sounds like a stretch but you'd be surprised by the amount of times assets that you can't see end up having wrong names. Again just speculation, what a weird specific quirk.
7:34 since everyone's state "resets" does this mean that a whack or thwack'd opponent will be saved if a cutscene final smash happens before they explode?
What I don't understand is when you equip a very OP spirits and attack an opponent with a very low spirit (I like doing this in with HP to do crazy huge dmg combos lol) your attacks can deal up to 300 damage but your final smash barely deals the double amount than a normal one. It's weird, maybe it's a nerf so it's not like a one shot or something but I hate this
This is something about ICs' CPU in general, but even at lvl 9 as cpu they simply do not perform at the same level as a human ICs player, most notably due to the uniquely human requirements for pulling off any of their desyncs in any intentional capacity. This means that they are designed in such a way that makes them _only_ truly viable in human hands, as they are clearly intended to be able to desync. This, alongside the fact that only the primary climber is considered a fighter by the game (which affects everything from spirits to items to final smashes), makes their amiibo among the hardest, if not _the_ hardest, if not *simply impossible* to train up to a viably competitive level
This reminded me of that one video where a person tests all Final Smashes vs Bayonetta to see which ones she can Witch Time. (The Zelda portion was my favorite.) I wonder if they ever made an update with all the DLC.
a weird thing i found out on complete accident, if you leave the game running for extremely long periods of time on sephiroth's win screen, the fire effects will start glitching and rendering weirdly (we accidentally left the switch on for 2 weeks) i actually got a recording of it since it was weird, i think i still have it somewhere
I'm not sure how viable it is for me to leave my switch running for that long without using it for work, so if you have footage of that, I'd love to see it!
Dark Pit's Final Smash isn't a projectile. The hitbox is only there to stun and then the knockback is a grabless throw for some reason. That's how Light Arrow worked too even in Brawl.
Fun Fact about Bayonetta's Witch Time counter is that it can completely invalidate Zelda's ultimate. I say "can" because if you mess up the timing, the shockwaves can send you flying into the ultimate if you're too close. The shockwaves can be countered by Bayonetta's witch time, which gives her enough time to run away a bit and counter again and repeat the process.
@@elijahallen2310 The wind is to push Charizard backward so Pac-Man doesn’t catch up. The teleporters would be there to move Charizard across the map to the beginning before Pac-Man gets him. Then Pac-Man can presumably Pac-Man around the stage to continue eating fire.
11:40 fun fact: opposite to what most people probably expect, this does NOT apply to incineroar's revenge (down b) buff. incineroar will not get a damage buff on his final smash even with full revenge stacks................................ sort of. to preface, incineroars final smash actually has an initial, small, physical hitbox that comes out when its first activated. you have to be pretty close to your enemy to hit this. normally this adds a grand total of 6% to your final smash, bringing it from the usual 63% to 69% (nice). if incineroar hits somebody with JUST the GRAB portion of his final smash, it will NOT benefit from the revenge damage boost, dealing the usual 63%. however... IF incineorar has revenge and hits somebody with the initial physical hitbox, that 6% damage actually DOES appear to be revenge boosted! it goes from 6% to a whopping... 10%!! however, it is not that simple. for reasons i am completely naive to, in my own testing, sometimes, seemingly randomly, ONLY when you have revenge stacks, hitting ONLY the grab portion of the final smash WILL apply that small, additional damage prior to the cut-scene. the even more bizarre thing is that when that random pre-damage application happens from the grab alone, it deals... 7%. not the normal 6, not the normal revenge-boosted 10, but a random third amount. if anyone can divine the consistency behind this mechanic, i believe it is you, youtube micro-celebrity PKBeats. please. put my soul to rest. i died due this this by the way i forgot to say that
Olimar’s Final Smash just completely does not work on the training stage. Due to the funky camera the bulborbs won’t actually chomp anything and the stars get super close together in the middle of the screen
f smash meter was a nice way to make them less random, but it didnt rly make them competitive because theyre still too strong and too unbalanced, bc theyre prolly balanced around 4 player smash, not 1v1 comp rules also for certain characters that have a harder time hitting their final smash, theyll get camped tf out, and we dont need any more camping balancing would be rly off too, like peach is already top 10, then you give her a top 3 final smash in the game, she would be the best character without question itd be mad cool if final smash could be viable competitively in smash 6, but i highly double it, bc if it was competitively viable itd prolly feel weak in 4v4 or higher
13:40 could you have a custom stage set up with platforms 1 block above and have multiple charzards so all charzards are firing into Pac Man? The hit should push zard back into the other zards so they’re all lined up on the edge of their platforms
Actually there is a way to make the pac man's final smash glitch endless pac man needs to jump and angle his final smash as Bowser/Charizard are using neutral B that would actually make the final smash endless as long as the Bowser/Charizard hold B
Its more entertaining then the like 7 stages with no harzards like the cloud in melee, no cool clips bc of anything like that, more fair, less entertaining
Personally, I don't want any old facts to simply be reused without any meaningful additions. I've watched through your whole catalog and I think I'll at least vaguely remember everything youve covered before. I think it could risk your videos becoming a bit stale and slightly confusing for longtime viewers.
If I recall correctly, Joker's final smash can only grab a maximum of three players (though I could be wrong on that) I wonder whether, if you have 7 frozen players all right next to each other and Joker hit the group with his final smash, they'd all unfreeze or just the ones that got pulled in. Or would it not matter because the cutscene would unfreze them anyway?
timing out pac-man's final smash with fire breath in a final gambit situation sounds like the most BM thing possible in casual smash lmao
Ok I'm really stupid what does BM stand for. I've seen it before but I'm again, really stupid
@@bonkers5451it stands for Bad Manners. In my experience its specifically used for when one person does something silly or reckless with the attitude that they're so much better than the opponent that they won't lose anyway.
@@ChristmasPterodactyl or, basically, trolling, In other games (like card games/turn based games) it can be things like stall (especially in pokemon) in a way, And in PVZ heroes (relatively forgotten pvz Spinoff that's kept alive by a channel named Fryemup), you can Purposefully do a RNG play when you COULD be able to just defeat the enemy hero then and there, stalling the game even further.
@@ChristmasPterodactyl ah ok cool thanks so much
Instadrop actually wears off after long enough. If the user goes 1000 seconds (16 minutes 40 seconds) without being KOd, they lose the instadrop ability for the rest of the match.
So this final smash somehow sets this value to run out. Also weird to have it run out after such long time.
Well, would you look at that, you're in the next video
13:16 you can actually fully stop this final smash like this, it’s very difficult but it was in a beefy smash dudes video on smash review and they managed to fully stop it with bowser. The final smash never ran out (or at least yeah it’ll take forever to run out) and both players were just stuck until they moved bowsers fire breath
Thank you. I was just about to comment this 😅
You were about to comment this? I WAS about to comment this
you two were about to comment this?
me too!
You three were about to comment this? No way, me too!
What's the name of the specific video this was in? Don't bother linking it, TH-cam shadowbans links in comments under most circumstances. Just the name.
14:15 After watching your Random Smash Facts for four years, it's surreal to finally be able to appear in one!
How did you even find this?? Like even if I was playing in these niche circumstances I doubt I would've noticed the missing hitbox. I just like instadrop for the funny movement
Congrats
Regarding Instadrop, it kinda treated like a transformation/wearable like giant/Bunny Hood, some of which are removed with Final Smashes. Like transformations/wearables, it runs out over time, it just has an unreasonably long timer of 60000 frames, or 1000 seconds (16m40s). If it runs out, you can no longer Instadrop, even after respawning. Though if you respawn before it runs out, the timer refreshes. Not sure if that is related to Peach/Daisy given the ability to Instadrop still persists without a hitbox.
Wait, do you know if it is exactly 60 000 ? Or closer to 64 000 ? The latter would make more sense computationally.
@@SureyD It is 60000 in the parameter files. Meshima (a data miner) made a spreadsheet a while ago with the values for spirits. I don't think I can link his tweet here, but the tweet ID is 1232660901666254848. In that spreadsheet, the relevant values can be found by searching for mach_stamp in the "spirits" tab. There is another tab with the internal code names, but it is hidden (so you need to make your own copy of the sheet and unhide it) and is not in a very user-friendly format.
@@SureyD It is 60000 in the files. I also tested it a while back and it was about 16m40s (it would be weird for my recording to skip a full minute (64000 frames is 17m46s)). I tried replying yesterday with a source but I think it got filtered, so just trust me (or search for Meshima_'s data).
@@CanvasK Thank you for going the extra steps. That's good to know! I guess they just kind of set a big number.
Possibly not a very obscure fact, but ryu’s position isn’t locked when using either of his final smashes. If you place him on a rolling crate and shinku hadoken, the knock back from the shinku will be applied to the cart, and by extension Ryu.This even lets you combo the opponent during and after your own final smash. This doesn’t work with similar final smashes like Mario’s. If you set the cart already rolling when you shin shoryuken an opponent, you can even lose a stock during the final smash, or have the final smash continue but leave the confines of the camera. It’s fun to mess around with
I have a fact
1. Open stamina mode
2. pick stage (mementos preferred)
3. pick cloud for you
4. pick anyone else (you need 3 controllers btw) and wait for the match to load up.
5. have the player with the lowest hp get final smashed by cloud
6. go up to the high platform and start attacking the player in the FS
7. the player in the FS gets insta KO 'ed and cloud will be attacking nothing. (Also works with Robin, Ike, Greninja, Ommislash ver 5, and Mii Brawlers FS)
This is because normally when you lose all of your hp you just get insta killed. Try it out!
I've did this myself and you and the cloud player need to be on the same team, if it's a ffa it won't work. You have to be on the same team.
11:40 I actually watched a video where a Shulk activates the Shield art during a final smash. And the Monado art wheel shows up in it
In mega metal smash, wario up b will be abnormally strong for some reason. I’m talking stronger than waft and probably most final smashes.
‼️Here is a cool thing: If you go in training room with G&W, set the opponent to “stop”, then run up to them and jab once, they might randomly short hop.
12:19 rip alphs yellow pikmin I guess
Saw the thumbnail and thought it would be about NaNa's CPU level being 77 when the player doesn't have control
I think it’s 7 *point* 7, 77 is higher than the max trained amiibos can reach
The smash meter is so flawed because you lose half of it when you die and the person taking more damage gets more. It also leads to camping. It just feels so stack on rather than intentionally put it to make for a better experience
You don't ALWAYS lose half when you die.
First, you only lose meter charge upon death if you died with a full charge. Considering the invincibility most Final Smashes confer, you can just mash FS as a self-rescue maneuver, rather than using it as an attack.
Second, the amount you lose depends on position. If you were winning, you lose half. If you were tied, you lose a quarter of it, and if you're losing, you lose an eighth (meaning a couple good hits gives it right back).
Soo, Lucario?
Brent: I hope they fine-tune it more in the next game
11:39
What if you had a second Ridley use a final smash? I imagine it would just get rid of the first crashing ship; all cutscene final smashes probably would actually
Beefy Smash Dudes got the Pacman thing to work by angling Pacman's final smash down by one and doing the fire breath. It's infinite, that is until Bowser lets go because the final smash won't finish until it gets through the whole thing.
I like the recaps and “remasters” of old facts! Regrettably I wasn’t around when you first started the channel, so there’s many facts that I’ve never heard. Love your videos, man! Keep it up and have fun with it!
Looking at the opening: Here’s something to remember about final smashes, a lot of them can be dodged if you time it just right
I definitely wouldn't have thought of the fact that Cloud's final smash is more situational and the AI might not have used it as much. That was a really clever catch
revisiting old facts in new topic specific videos is a great idea. i enjoyed this video
the marth one reminded me that joker can get a second attempt by turning around, he'll do another dash in the opposite direction
Whenever the game first came out, Alpharad did a Final Smash Tier list, but ig it wouldn't hurt to make a Final Smash Tier list to see how they fare nowadays.
Ye, Zelda's Final Smash is still top tier. Peach/Daisy's follows close behind
if you do that tier-list, do it based on how cool it is rather than how good they are, more than half of them would be in the position
and yes i would watch that. i like hearing you talk about things
I've personally found that Dark Pit's back throw combos into final smash and kills very early
Yeah alpharad used that a lot
Meter griffin
Whenever I play smash I play a 20-stock 8 player free for all with final smashes on so I am well acquainted with cutscene final smashes bringing you out of free fall, it's even saved me a stock a couple times
Damn that sounds like torture
What about a team of 7 Charizard or Bowsers against one Pac Man final smash? 👀
Should've also mentioned that Pac-Man is immune to Daisy/Peach's final smash. He can place his hydrant and it'll blow water on him and wake up. Well, I assume you haven't said it before.
8:21 Ken and does something line this, but they have to become invincible after the final smash starts
Yes make a final smash list. but make sure you do research about each one. Not just a gut feeling
8:58 Witch Time DOES have intangibility, that could be the reason it works against final smashes.
It seems kinda like a dodge with benefits to me.
The intangibility definitely comes into play. The "success" animation playing is what's super unique about it to me. But really, yeah, it is like a dodge with benefits lmao, that's a funny way to put it
Another very notable “effect” that gets cleared by cutscene final smashes is ledge grabbing. You just fall off ledge and need to pay attention and recover.
make a tierlist based on how good a characters final smash is for recovering
gotta love you teaching the demoman how to climb a ladder
Personally I enjoy these videos a lot, because even if I already know/remember the facts I’m really here for the commentary and delivery of the facts which is enjoyable and fun each time, I’m here for PKBeats more than smash facts tbh
I think the pacman final smash thing works better if pacman is going slightly downward, but I haven't tested it myself so take that with a grain of salt.
I'd be down to see a "Ranking all final smashes based on visuals". I really enjoyed your stage appearence ranking video, so it'd be cool to see it for final smashes too.
3:20 so I guess this means that the optimal way to play ice climbers with smash meter on must be to just kill nana at the beginning of the stock, right?
Hey, follower from 4 years ago here! I honestly didn't mind re-learning about facts you already mentioned in past videos at all, it remained on the topic of final smashes so it's less "random", in that it's encased into one category, even if some of the facts in it did show up at some point :)
sick airshot in the outro btw
10:11 i think that Incineroar's FS is an actual command grab, while othe FS have both grab-like proprieties and normal hit ones. Think about it, Incineroar's FS doesn't damage the opponent when it grabs them. Other FS that you tested do.
It even has the grab graphic (the orange circle thing), so that's not very surprising
@@toastr1255 that's exactly what I was thinking about too!
Other FS are pseudo grabs, probably sharing some code with grabs but not actually full-on grabs. While Incineroar's FS is just a command grab with a cutscene attached to it.
I'd watch a FS Tier List video, i doubt something like that has been done since near launch and we've had tons of new characters since
I would actually like a final smash tier list that would be pretty cool :)
6:08
SANS!?
6:07 lmao hbox made one a few days ago. It’d still be cool to see you doing one though
I love how Bayonetta's WT can counter some final smashes, it's fun to do that playing with friends and watch their surprised faces 😂
Based on what I know from programming, my based on nothing total speculation theory to why Peach's final smash cancels that hitbox is maybe the hitbox asset that checks to see if someone is in range of peach's fall asleep range is named the same thing as that hitbox that's attached to Mario. So when the final smash happens it rewrites what that hitbox is supposed to do, and then goes away with her fs ending. Which would explain why it comes back when losing a stock, as it gets reloaded. Sounds like a stretch but you'd be surprised by the amount of times assets that you can't see end up having wrong names. Again just speculation, what a weird specific quirk.
7:34 since everyone's state "resets" does this mean that a whack or thwack'd opponent will be saved if a cutscene final smash happens before they explode?
The effect is practically instant and has the dramatic zoom so it would be incredibly hard to time properly to check
@@toastr1255frame by frame (in training mode) exists
If you hold a direction on the C-stick when you start moving the left stick on the CSS you skip the acceleration period and reach top speed instantly
If you hit someone with a cutscene final smash while someone is holding an item, that item will disappear.
What I don't understand is when you equip a very OP spirits and attack an opponent with a very low spirit (I like doing this in with HP to do crazy huge dmg combos lol) your attacks can deal up to 300 damage but your final smash barely deals the double amount than a normal one.
It's weird, maybe it's a nerf so it's not like a one shot or something but I hate this
This is something about ICs' CPU in general, but even at lvl 9 as cpu they simply do not perform at the same level as a human ICs player, most notably due to the uniquely human requirements for pulling off any of their desyncs in any intentional capacity. This means that they are designed in such a way that makes them _only_ truly viable in human hands, as they are clearly intended to be able to desync. This, alongside the fact that only the primary climber is considered a fighter by the game (which affects everything from spirits to items to final smashes), makes their amiibo among the hardest, if not _the_ hardest, if not *simply impossible* to train up to a viably competitive level
And while the secondary climber isnt considered a "fighter" per say, (s)he interacts with everything else _as if_ (s)he were, kinda like a pet cpu
This reminded me of that one video where a person tests all Final Smashes vs Bayonetta to see which ones she can Witch Time. (The Zelda portion was my favorite.)
I wonder if they ever made an update with all the DLC.
a weird thing i found out on complete accident, if you leave the game running for extremely long periods of time on sephiroth's win screen, the fire effects will start glitching and rendering weirdly (we accidentally left the switch on for 2 weeks)
i actually got a recording of it since it was weird, i think i still have it somewhere
I'm not sure how viable it is for me to leave my switch running for that long without using it for work, so if you have footage of that, I'd love to see it!
@@Casual_PKBeats sure! let me see if i can still find the video on my camera roll
@@Casual_PKBeats th-cam.com/video/GvFRFPb77qk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=nkjzkVYLTc_xaMni
still had it!
We need your minish cap randomizer play through
Final smash tier list would be cool!
Final smash tier list would be hype
I hope that the ice climbers marriage can handle this hardship
one fun fact, the shotos can do a crouching shoryuken
Dark Pit's Final Smash isn't a projectile. The hitbox is only there to stun and then the knockback is a grabless throw for some reason. That's how Light Arrow worked too even in Brawl.
Yay double Lucas mention !!
Fun Fact about Bayonetta's Witch Time counter is that it can completely invalidate Zelda's ultimate.
I say "can" because if you mess up the timing, the shockwaves can send you flying into the ultimate if you're too close.
The shockwaves can be countered by Bayonetta's witch time, which gives her enough time to run away a bit and counter again and repeat the process.
Could custom stage wind (and maybe a teleporter) extend the Pac-Man-eating-flames thing?
Teleporters don't affect Pacman's final smash, the only reason why he stops for fire breath is because he's "eating" the projectiles.
@@elijahallen2310 The wind is to push Charizard backward so Pac-Man doesn’t catch up. The teleporters would be there to move Charizard across the map to the beginning before Pac-Man gets him. Then Pac-Man can presumably Pac-Man around the stage to continue eating fire.
my guess about some final smashes working on banjo wonderwing is that they function like sora's counter and remove them from the animation
11:40 fun fact: opposite to what most people probably expect, this does NOT apply to incineroar's revenge (down b) buff. incineroar will not get a damage buff on his final smash even with full revenge stacks................................ sort of.
to preface, incineroars final smash actually has an initial, small, physical hitbox that comes out when its first activated. you have to be pretty close to your enemy to hit this. normally this adds a grand total of 6% to your final smash, bringing it from the usual 63% to 69% (nice).
if incineroar hits somebody with JUST the GRAB portion of his final smash, it will NOT benefit from the revenge damage boost, dealing the usual 63%. however... IF incineorar has revenge and hits somebody with the initial physical hitbox, that 6% damage actually DOES appear to be revenge boosted! it goes from 6% to a whopping... 10%!!
however, it is not that simple. for reasons i am completely naive to, in my own testing, sometimes, seemingly randomly, ONLY when you have revenge stacks, hitting ONLY the grab portion of the final smash WILL apply that small, additional damage prior to the cut-scene. the even more bizarre thing is that when that random pre-damage application happens from the grab alone, it deals... 7%. not the normal 6, not the normal revenge-boosted 10, but a random third amount.
if anyone can divine the consistency behind this mechanic, i believe it is you, youtube micro-celebrity PKBeats. please. put my soul to rest. i died due this this by the way i forgot to say that
9:09 I found that out when playing Sonic online, annoyed me like heck when it made me lose the game as a result
Did no one else noticed that both Cloud and Bowser got the stocks where Ice Climbers supposedly did a Self-Destruct? Was it just me that noticed it?
6:33 pk the beat.... when more tea for two.....,..
Olimar’s Final Smash just completely does not work on the training stage. Due to the funky camera the bulborbs won’t actually chomp anything and the stars get super close together in the middle of the screen
I like how I was playing smash ultimate on my steam deck then this came out
FINAL SMASH TIER LIST
I almost wonder if this discrepancy is because of alternate costumes that puts Nana in the lead instead of Popo.
More like PKBeats the Icy's legs with hammers
comeback mechanics werent designed for the "designated bottom tier" characters, of course this exists.
Never been this early to a PKBeats video
what if you have multiple charizard or bowser on a team use fire breath on pacman?
f smash meter was a nice way to make them less random, but it didnt rly make them competitive because theyre still too strong and too unbalanced, bc theyre prolly balanced around 4 player smash, not 1v1 comp rules
also for certain characters that have a harder time hitting their final smash, theyll get camped tf out, and we dont need any more camping
balancing would be rly off too, like peach is already top 10, then you give her a top 3 final smash in the game, she would be the best character without question
itd be mad cool if final smash could be viable competitively in smash 6, but i highly double it, bc if it was competitively viable itd prolly feel weak in 4v4 or higher
this is why hero beats ice climbers so bad. getting double mp back is so huge
Try the fire breath thing with both charizard and bowser on a team
13:40 could you have a custom stage set up with platforms 1 block above and have multiple charzards so all charzards are firing into Pac Man? The hit should push zard back into the other zards so they’re all lined up on the edge of their platforms
Nana appreciation comment
If the Smash community actually played half the game this might have been found and patched years ago
Beefy smash doods had an episode about the Pac-Man thing you should check it out because they did some different testing and got different hypothesis
How easily can Meta Knight avoid final smashes compared to other characters? His down special notably ignores Zelda's final smash.
All teleports are good asf at dodging final smashes
Actually there is a way to make the pac man's final smash glitch endless pac man needs to jump and angle his final smash as Bowser/Charizard are using neutral B that would actually make the final smash endless as long as the Bowser/Charizard hold B
If Ice Climbers did got nerf, will the same nerf happen to Luma with Rosalina with Final Smash Meter ?
With rosalina, does that just mean both meters fill exponentially faster?
Can you test stopping Pac-Man’s final smash with seven charizards/bowsers?
FS video would be nice
Its more entertaining then the like 7 stages with no harzards like the cloud in melee, no cool clips bc of anything like that, more fair, less entertaining
6:32 should’ve put the sfm clip
Final Smashes are too big for Smash to really get to leave them on and the fact that you can camp for meter only exacerbates that problem
12:54 does it stay longer if you get like 3 fire breathers on one team who have curry all blasting pac man?
what if you used a team of charizards with spicy curry against pacmans final smash?
Personally, I don't want any old facts to simply be reused without any meaningful additions. I've watched through your whole catalog and I think I'll at least vaguely remember everything youve covered before. I think it could risk your videos becoming a bit stale and slightly confusing for longtime viewers.
If I recall correctly, Joker's final smash can only grab a maximum of three players (though I could be wrong on that)
I wonder whether, if you have 7 frozen players all right next to each other and Joker hit the group with his final smash, they'd all unfreeze or just the ones that got pulled in. Or would it not matter because the cutscene would unfreze them anyway?
Would fire taste spicy?
Technically yes, since capsaicin, the chemical that makes chillis feel "spicy" causes the same chemical reaction actual burns give
Wait how does the ice climbers thing effect other non-smash meters? Limit or KO punch?
Why cant you use multiple charizards to feed packman for longer
0:21 What Jojo dialogue would you do over this?
"Oh, so you're approaching me?"
Lmao referencing an episode with the supercut is gold 😭