Six Flags: Over Texas is my home park, and I really don’t know why it isn’t much bigger. Not only is the park in corporate’s backyard, not only is it the original Six Flags park, not only are there a couple rides they could easily tear out and replace, but the DFW area even has population trend lines that should cause management at Six Flags to take notice
Fiesta Texas is my home park, with the current trend of a non-clone, original coaster every 2-3 years since 2013, we are doing very good. But Idk why Over Texas isn’t getting more investment, sorry about that you guys:(
I look at it this way, San Antonio/Austin/The Hill Country is THE tourist destination of Texas. They can talk about their population center all they want but SO many people go to that area for all kinds of other activities. The only major non water park in the state that Six Flags doesn't own is in San Antonio(Sea World) as is the Riverwalk and the Alamo to say nothing of the tourist sights up in Austin. And if you look at that trend line chart it's not just SA that's growing like crazy but Austin is as well. Dallas/Ft Worth is huge and growing too but it's not exactly a tourist destination. I've lived off and on in the Houston area over the last decade and outside of SFOT or HH water park I struggle to think what I might want to see in that area on a vacation. South Fork Ranch maybe? No disrespect intended because Houston is a lot like that too. Houston has the 4th largest metro area in the entire country behind only NY LA and Chicago and it wasn't enough to keep Astroworld open. And yes there are all the usual things a city the size of Houston has like pro sports, museums, ballet and opera venues and what not but people just don't come to the Houston area for a vacation that I can see. There is another factor in play as well IMO. SFOT and SFOG aren't OWNED by Six Flags. They run the parks but the parks are actually owned by investor groups and that has to be a headache. In fact I know it's is because the investor group has sued corporate over under performance at SFOG in the past. Honestly the whole company is kind of this mess of competing interests and managerial styles and identities. I've been to Sea World Orlando, Busch Gardens Tampa and Busch Gardens Williamsburg and those parks are a lot more coherent in their theming and their mission focus to me. They also aren't spreading themselves too thin by trying to run too many parks, expanding too quickly or putting in subpar coasters and flat rides just for the sake of having something new. They have a brand and they stick with it. That whole black fish thing screwed them up for awhile but they seem to be getting that stuff ironed out for the future.
I went to Great Escape last year. I really liked it (Aside from Canyon Blaster and the food options). In fact, I think that it is a mid-tier Six Flags Park (Above St Louis, La Ronde, Frontier City, Darien Lake, Discovery Kingdom, and America), in spite of it not getting investments.
Darien Lake has a nice atmosphere and a far better coaster collection than Great Escape. But both are still great parks. I just don't think Great Escape really beats Darien Lake or even St. Louis. But like I said, still a great place. The only bad Six Flags park is La Ronde.
Great Adventure should be putting in more thrill coasters, they have the potential to be the most attended park in the chain considering they haven’t been adding very exciting additions but still manage to beat out Great America in popularity. I think GAdv is going to be back to coasters again which I’m excited for.
Going over numbers Great Adventure and Magic Mountain are pretty much always neck and neck with yearly guests. They usually pass each other several times during the year.
Having SF St. Louis as a home park is painful. I love the hell out of that park just cause I grew up there but most of the rides are 20+ years old and pretty worn down. Most people I know have given up hope of ever getting anything interesting. It’s been 5 years since we even got a shitty, secondhand boomerang so I think that illustrates just how much interest they have in our park. It’s unfortunate since a lot of people in the area have nothing better to do during the summer months. With even a little bit of effort they could really boost their numbers :/
Yeah, I seriously can't imagine what anyone is ever thinking with that park. Yeah, the Cedar Fair ones not so far away in the state actually get it worse, even if one can compare/contrast the coasters they have now. However. St. Louis. Staffing issues but they just keep shoving in a new flat ride every year? How about removing Ninja (I am literally NEVER for removing those vekoma/arrow loopers, but that thing is horrible for it's own building history and in general)? Stop wasting money and manpower on running it? Replace it with a RMC raptor. There delusional if they don't believe that'll increase attendance. Why doesn't it have a free spin yet? The rides-too many are always closed, or declined incredibly. Remove a few. I loved Exalibur when it was "Evolution" at SFGADV for a couple years, but why do they keep pouring endless amounts of money into it? It's a moneypit, and SFGADV knew it-they experimented and said nope, St. Louis it's like there lovechild they refuse to stop with. I will admit whether it's money or not, I am happy they haven't and probably won't RMC "The Boss" as I think it's great, but they need A WHOLE NEW PLAN and priorities. I feel like the only reason why six flags as a whole still owns it is because they built it ground up.
Hey Cedar Fair is not so great either. My home park is Valley Fair. You would think that the Cedar Fair company would be more considerate towards the first park it acquired and helped create its company name. But we havent gotten a new coaster since Renegade in 2007.
@@kayleg1861 They could also remove that stupid ass tidal wave ride in the corner of the park near sky screamer. It is literally almost never open and its just a far worse version of the log flume except it gets you more wet. The reason the attendance is so low is because people are bored of the park. Add something new and watch how much the numbers go up. Add the raptor and RMC the boss and SFSL would be amazing.
Six Flags America is literally 3 miles from my house but I go to Great Adventure if I want to go to a Six Flags. Also the season pass at Six Flags America is significantly cheaper than if you bought one at Great Adventure AND six flags season pass works at any of their parks
SFA was never the same after the company went bankrupt. It was as if they were going to sell it off, but kept deciding not to last minute with the hopes that they could at least hold on another year.
Dusk Raccoon Six Flags has made some questionable choices in their time, and what they’ve done to America makes no sense. Great Escape and Frontier City should just be small local parks.
Me: Magic mountain and six flags great adventure are the top “The other coaster in the top teir is Great America” Me “WHAT???” I wasnt ready for it lol
GA has a lot of guests for a smaller market compared to the rest of the Top 5, and generally gets much nicer stuff than even GrAv It just has a lot there, and SF likes giving it the good stuff
You should do the seaworld parks next c: Bush gardens Williamsburg Bush gardens Tampa Sesame place Sea world San Diego Sea world Orlando Sea world San Antonio (Idk if there’s more parks in the chain) I love these Vids and look forward to watching them. Also the people who live in an around the Reno NV area call six flags discovery kingdom their home park. ( but this was years ago when I lived there)
From someone in Six Flags America’s area we go to that park because during the summer there isn’t anywhere else to go. The closest ‘chain’ park is Kings Dominion. It gets super packed, and honestly unbearable. I just really wish the company would give it more tlc because if they did we’d support it soo much
So glad to see Great America so high on the list. I grew up going to Great America almost every year and once even ditched school to go with my friends. Many people over look it because we get such a short season due to the Midwest weather but I absolutely love the park and it has so many good coasters I often find myself wishing for 2 days to go to the park
@@harrisonschneider8333 Great America is my home park. This is ridiculous but I think I would like it as a Cedar Fair park. Of course itll never ever happen. I just want quality coasters instead of quantity
NumerousGeo - I have a tendency to be a park purist and even I would LOVE that. AE was such a rough ride last time I braved it, had neck and back pain the rest of the day. Never again.
@@ThoosieJP I'm a retail team member and have been for years! I have no idea where I'll be during fright fest though because retail scheduling is all over the place
Good to see Six Flags Mexico is on the list! The lack of competition in the area (if not the whole country), coupled with the park being in Mexico City, and the recent upgrade to Medusa by RMC that elevated the coaster to a new level really helped to increase the attendance to the park. Hopefully, SFMX will be getting more love in the following years. Something I really want, since I'm becoming a regular to the park despite living in a different state. Cheers from Mexico and excellent job gathering all the info and "crunching" it down into a ranking.
One tricky thing about this is that a great park can get ridiculous crowds, taking away from the experience of visitors. Yes, I'm talking about Great America. What Great America calls a dead day would be an insanely crowded day at Great Adventure. For me, it's things like this that puts Great Adventure, Fiesta Texas, & New England as my top 3 Six Flags parks. Also with Magic Mountain, there are plenty of opportunities to visit on days that aren't crazy. I know that your video is more business related, which helps explain why Six Flags treats the parks the way they do. From that perspective, I agree with your placements. But for the experience we can get out of each park, I would be doing some shuffling.
For six flags New England you forgot to mention the Wicked Cyclone which released in 2015 and is easily the second best ride at the park behind Superman
Another really well edited and researched video! You've quickly become one of my favorite coaster channels. Even though Six Flags America is closer to me, I usually just bite the bullet and make the three and a half hour drive to Great Adventure because it's so much better. XD
Been to Six Flags over Texas years ago - like 1978. Been to Six Flags Magic Mountain - last time 1-2 years ago. They used to own Wild Waves Enchanted Village near Tacoma, Washington until about 5-6 years ago. Need to visit some more of the them. :)
Air Time Thrills. I have watched this video at least a half dozen times and I came to realize, that it must have taken quite some to put this put this together. This and the Cedar Fair video are very well done. This kind of more in depth information is fascinating to me. Please keep up the great work!These kind of videos and all your others videos will help get this New Englander get through our cold winters, thinking about the sunny days on a great coaster.
I suppose it's a reminder that parks don't primarily cater to the little coaster-freak subculture, for whom this is basically the international symbol for "yeah, we got nuthin'." But to the average person it's just a cool-looking roller coaster. (I just noticed that La Ronde's current logo is a more cropped version of the same image.)
if you find that funny, the entire six flags chain sells magnets with a vekoma inverted boomerang, WITH THE COLORS from "Stinger" now removed from Dorney. THe chain only owned one of those at six flags america "Two-Face: The Flip Side" and never got another until the disastrous three pack "giant inverted boomerang." In other words, they sell magnets based on a coaster that never existed in any of there parks, or couldn't even photoshop it to be orange like the one they did once have and ditched.
Home Park is Over Texas. It’s not a bad park but not the best. They need to renovate the bathrooms and add a major original coaster. Yes I am aware that we are getting a Mack Power Splash.
According to a manger at Six Flags I am a good friend with, Six Flags does in fact actually class their parks into tiers. However, there are only THREE tiers.
Sfgadv needs to do what Hershey is doing Hershey is drawing from philly Harrisburg allentown and even NYC six flags does only philly and NYC and with both cities growing fast they should take advantage of this and add more bigger and better rides like hersheypark has been going for years
@John Lorton I know that what I'm saying is they should take advantage of the growth of the two cities nj as itself yes has a lot of people but im.focusing on the growth of the major cities in the area like Philadelphia and nyc hersheypark sees this and has been taking advantage that's why they always add bigger rides and if it's not a big ride its multiple small ones cause they will always get more profit then the total price of the ride
Six Flags Over Texas is in a position where if they want to add badass new coasters, they're gonna have to look at getting rid of some stuff. This works out, because they've got a handful of coasters that are either nearing the end of their life expectancy, or flat out running on life support. A perfect candidate would be Judge Roy Scream. It's 40+ years old now, and it's got its own little plot of land with a potentially badass tunnel to queue for a new coaster. Another move, that would be pretty bittersweet, would be Shock Wave that, while it's still a really great coaster, it's also 40+ years old and tucked away in its own little section of park. Removing that, the bumper cars next to it, and even the unused amphitheater could free up a pretty huge footprint and make way for a MASSIVE new flagship coaster for the park. It sucks watchin all these flat rides come in when the park is new-coaster-starved, but there are definitely options for the foreseeable future for some really cool coasters.
I hope the retracting and other changes made to the the relocated green later work out.. la ronde needs it. La ronde is my home park but Over the years I've been buying season passes to visit Canada's wonderland. Leviathan and Yukon striker alone make la ronde sad
He also noted it draws it's attendance from buffalo, which is not accurate. It is half way between Rochester and buffalo and draws from both major cities.
Love your videos! Thoughtful analysis. I found myself getting ready to question the placement of SFGAdv in Tier 2 before you broke it down. No argument!
Makes me glad that I live right in between great adventure and New England on LI, and thanks for pointing out that New England might get a new coaster! I had no idea with all the great adventure news rn, if both get a new coaster I’m gonna freak 😁
Well, COVID had other ideas and the new ride turned out to be a flat anyway. But the buzz now is speculation about what they might replace the defunct Giant Inverted Boomerang with.
Over Georgia is unique in that it is the only park in that area. They also had a gap in flat rides that needed to be filled. Same deal with St. Louis. Also, it is a little known fact that from 2005-2010, Six Flags America was up for sale.
@@SiebayPlays Because Six Flags didn't make it a public fact that Six Flags America was up for sale. They would have sold it if they got the right offer.
Six Flags St. Louis is my home park and is a really strange situation. It was the 3rd park built by the original Six Flags company and I think I read it's the only park that is still wholly owned and operated by the company. I could be wrong though. The park has a lot of potential. I remember a time when I would have to wait hours to get on rides but as time went on, six flags just seemed to not care anymore and as quality slipped, so did attendance. Six Flags is more worried about sure things and have kinda given up on the "if they build it, they will come!" Mentality. It could truly be a destination park, especially with the tourism numbers that St. Louis draws.
SFStLo is suffering from a low population base and strong competition IMO. You've got Silver Dollar City and Wonderland pulling in people on the other edges of the state and Missouri is not exactly a hot bed of growth. It's also unfortunately not a tourist destination outside of maybe Branson and the Ozarks area. And Branson is a big problem for any competing attraction in KC or StLo.
The best thing about was how the seat shifted and when they were empty it created an extra level of fear that something was wrong. If I remember it right
Tips to help Great Adventure back to #1: Green Lantern: Kill it with fire and put something much better/less leg and nut killing (see entry 3) The Dark Knight: Revamp/Remodel Add a single rail raptor coaster plz Never ever get rid of El Toro or Nitro.
SiebayRoo I would have too but Magic Springs isn’t really close to a large population center (the Little Rock metro has about 800,000 people) and Magic Springs itself only gets about 300,000 - 400,000 a year in annual attendance. It’s a nice little amusement park but I’m afraid that it’ll never be able to grow into something larger. But ya never know...
...I was confused when you called Six Flags a Discount chain, but it only took 6 minutes into the video to realize why...Growing up in Chicago and now living in Los Angeles...my home Six Flags have been treated very nicely hahaha.
When you start looking at what it cost to go to Universal or Disney and you look at the way those companies run their park it becomes pretty apparent why he calls it a discount chain. Busch Gardens W was my home park growing up and I still think it's a great park but Universal and the Mouse are on a whole different level in price and in theming/operations.
As someone who has been to Great Escape numerous times; six flags ran that park into the ground. It used to be this quirky family owned park with the extremely underrated Comet, but now it’s that six flags park that no one goes to with ads everywhere and it’s just unfortunate. Although, I think just one new coaster addition would be nice. The park has room for a B&M hyper, I’ll settle for a small scale RMC or a Bermuda blitz
The biggest problem Six Flags Great Escape has is that Six Flags New England is 90 miles away from Albany, NY. If you want thrills and a decent Six Flags park and you live in the Capital District area, of New York State,, Six Flags New England is between 90 minutes and about 2 hours away (your travel time could be shorter, depending on how much speeding you are willing to do on the MassPike... but beware of the Lee barracks Staties. They're pricks.) I think Six Flags owns the Great Escape as a defensive position... it does not want Cedar Fair or another company with deep pockets to enter the market that they have successfully sewn up. The other amusement parks are small and geared towards locals. Six Flags appears to have decided that the Great Escape is for families with children under 12 and that's that. Overall, Lake George is tired looking; it has certainly seen better days. It's worthwhile for Six Flags to maintain it, to occasionally put a New to You attraction there, but more than that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
I see hope in Six Flags America. They have a huge hurricane harbor compared to other six flags. They had the new sleek Firebird added this year, and are about to add the Harley Quinn Spinsanity. They also have alot of undeveloped land. Yes it is pretty bad now, but the future is looking good for it.
I live in Albany, I'm basically right in the middle of NE SF. TGE is 45 mins from me, New England is 2 hours, SFGADV is 3-4 hours depending on NYC traffic, La Ronde is 3 hours away as long as the border cooperates, and Darien Lake is 4 hours away. That's alot of parks within a days drive that I can get into with my SF membership.
Used to go to Great Escape as a kid for Oktoberfest with the extended family. Major nostalgia; I see the facts here but I hope it doesn't go away. And I hope it still has the rides I remember... I should get out there this summer
@Airtime Thrills As a life-long OKC resident I can tell you reasons why I feel SF chose to aquire Frontier City. There are a number of likely contributing factors: 1.) Frontier City has been a permanent fixture since it's opening in 1958. 2.) With the introduction of an NBA in OKC, the population and commercial growth has been insane. The stats may say 13%, but they may not account for people moving within the state, to OKC, which we see often. 3.) In addition to Frontier City, they also acquired White Water Bay, a large Waterpark in OKC as well. 4.) SF over Texas is a short 3.5 hr drive from it, making it a nice trip straight down 1-35 for touring park-goers. 5.) While it is in the city, it's on the rural outskirts, surrounded by a lot of underdeveloped land, making future expansion a big possibility! 6.) The ODOT approved and completed a new Turnpike that makes access to OKC possible from every surrounding highway. It gives direct access to the park from many rural areas, cutting driving time nearly in half, thus adding thousands more to daily and seasonal guest potential.
I've been to Great Escape and Great Adventure. While the two times I went to GA were field trips, I remember driving up to Lake George/Queensbury with my family every summer as a kid to go to GE, and loving it every time we went. It's definitely more diverse/family oriented in terms of the rides it has, but it's still a fun and pretty park that doesn't deserve the lack of attention it gets.
Continuing the idea from a comment in the Cedar Fair Business Model video, Six Flags Parks Portrayed By SpongeBob. •Magic Mountain ~"Life's as extreme as YOU WANNA MAKE IIIIIIIIIIT!!!!! WOO!!!" •Great America ~"Time for a well-balanced breakfast. (Busts through fridge with food on head) This isn't what I had in mind!" •Great Adventure ~"(Holds up dime) There she is!" ~"Wow! That's more than I make in a year!" •Fiesta Texas ~"Fiery Fist O' Pain, here we come!" ~"Yeah, dudes! We're _all_ riding the Fist O' Pain!" ~"I heard someone rode it and his _spine_ fell out." ~"Du-u-ude! I hope _my_ spins falls out." ~"Ye-heah, me too!" •New England ~"Where are we going? Fancy Springs?" _~"Noooo!"_ ~"Pamper Island?" ~"Try again!" ~"Oh, oh-oh! Old Bikini Bottom Folk Village?" ~"Better than that!" •Discovery Kingdom ~"Not only do they have the largest oyster held in captivity; it also does tricks! _He spits a giant pearl 100 feet in the air! Like a cannonball!"_ •Mexico ~"Who's number 46,853!? (Crowd cheering)" _~"I've_ never had 46,853 customers!" •Over Georgia ~"He makes me sick, just look at him! Those big, _bulging_ eyes, that _square_ body, those two buckteeth, and its _stupid_ tie!" •Over Texas (Continuing from Over Georgia) ~"Uh... Ahem." ~"Oh, but it looks good on _you,_ SpongeBob! (Giggles)" •St. Louis ~"Aaahh! It's the Flying Dutchman!" ~"Aaahh! It's some guy that I've never seen before!" •La Ronde ~"I give you... KRABBY LAND!!!" ~"YAAAY! (Shock; run-down dump of a park)" •America ~"I've got a ton of awards for SpongeBob Squarepants!" ~"(Steaming) WHY CAN'T I DO ANYTHING RIGHT!? (Smashes broom; customers cough)" •Great Escape ~"Hey, look everybody! It's cousin Plankton! YEEEE-HAW!!!" ~"...I've been away from home longer than I thought." •Darien Lake ~"Why, everyone in town has benefited from Sandy's scientific knowledge! Before Sandy showed up, I _used_ to be a scrawny weakling!" •Frontier City ~"Oh, come on! How many times does the carnival come to town? (Sign says Carnival Always Here)"
Great Adventure is my home park! (One of two actually since I'm also nearby Hersheypark) I think it would become great again if Jersey Devil comes out great; though I am glad and do agree that it belongs in a high tier level. (I'm a beginner coaster enthusiast and still learning lol)
Yup...I remember when six flags New England was still “riverside”. He’s absolutely not kidding, by the way. This is my home park and to get there, you’re basically riding through a small town of locals yelling “yo, go get the CAHHHH, Joey!”
YEAH! SIX FLAGS NEW ENGLAND! 2ND TIER! WOOO! LET'S GO! I hope they announce a new coaster for 2022 considering how they're probably going to replace Goliath (it's closed for 2021 and all signs show it's being removed)
My home park is over Texas and it's sad but true how there is literally no where to expand. It's especially sad bc it's the first six flags and it's low on the list. I feel like it needs another coaster or something but idk if it has room. :(
Talking about the size of the parks, my home park is 42 acres with no space for expansion. But it does have an Arrow hyper and got a Mack multi launch a couple of years ago.
Omg you used a peice of my six flags Darien lake commercial 2019 video! But don’t worry I’m not upset I’m actually happy my intended purpose was to show others this commercial and maybe help them when looking for videos to use regarding six flags😄
You pronounced Canobie Lake Wrong 11:43... It’s pronounced Can - A - Bie, Can like soup can, O sounds like an A and Bie like Bee 🐝. Just thought you should know cause it’s my home park😁
Next video: How the Owners of Canobie Lake Park Choose Their Winners and Losers Winner: Canobie Lake Park Loser: Canobie Lake Park (Meanwhile, Story Land and Lake Compounce are actually owned by a vast European chain with huge parks over there.)
Ah Parques Reunidos... known here in Europe as Worse Compagnie De Alpes... Parques Reunidos is a big chain but really doesnt add tons of rides to their parks, and really favors some parks over some others. Although its not a bad chain, ill admit that. They do add 1 or 2 coasters per year, This year Fury at Bobbejaanland and Steel Curtain, last year a quiet year with only Merlins Mayhem i think, and the year before Gold Rush and Star Trek: Operation Enterprise.
I haven’t watched the whole video, but did you mention that it was the owners of tiny Frontier City that bought the entire Six Flags chain in 1998? They (Premier Parks) took the Six Flags name and the offices of FC became the Six Flags Corp. HQ for many years.
SFOTexas needs to replace shockwave with a new "record breaking height" of some kind coaster. it being right there next to the interstate it would look amazing driving by, and also its a great location at the back of the park away from most of the smaller rides
FYI TGE draws from more places than just Albany, Lake George is a major tourist spot as it's the gateway to the Adirondacks. Many people from NYC come up to visit in the summer. It's still bottom tier but it's not as bad as you think.
My home park was a Six flags park. It was called Six flags Kentucky Kingdom. But closed in 2010 now reopened. During it time with six flags they added some good rides. Like the Pequin blizzard river and other. Before it closed they added Deludge. Mega weggie and that about it. But also took out Chang. The park big name stand up coaster. Now the park is doing as good as it was
Six Flags Great America is my home park, and I always considered Great Adventure as a higher tier park in the chain, with El Toro, Kingda Ka, Nitro, and Medusa/Bizarro in their lineup. After watching your video, I can see why you ranked SFGAM in the Top 2. Goliath, Maxx Force, and X-Flight are really strong additions in the past 10 years. The Joker 4D and Justice League ride are solid clones, plus the Mardi Gras Hangover Larson Loop seems to be a general public crowd pleaser. I am a bit disappointed that they removed Ragin Cajun, as it was a really strong spinning coaster that I greatly preferred to that Larson Loop. If things are going the way you say, I think the online rumors of a RMC American Eagle might actually happen in 2021. Sure, I'd love Great America to be the first Six Flags park to get a Giga, but I think a RMC Eagle could easily be a Top 10, if not Top 5 ranked coaster if done right. I just hope they find a way to keep that epic helix somehow.
@@BobMocarski Everyone else in the comments section are raging how it would be the worst if RMC comes in because its a classic. I dont know I think RMC would be perfect for AE
I live near DC and I’ve never been to Six Flags America...as a kid my mom always said it was sketchy and we preferred Hershey Park, Kings Dominion, and Busch Gardens. Now that I’m older, I’d still rather go to those three quality parks full of nostalgia, good rides, and decent theming.
Yeah I friends that went to JMU and they always preferred BGW, so much so that when I mentioned SFA they had completely forgotten that it existed. LOL BGW was my home park growing up and I definitely have a soft spot for it.
i will always love six flags america no matter what anybody says. i used to go there with my grandma all the time in the summer and i have so many nostalgiac memories with it
Happy to hear your thoughts on it. I was surprised when you said great America as the top tier, but thinking about it, it makes total sense. I wish my home park could have squeezed into too tier, but your right, SF seems to be loosing some interest in GADV
Maybe you should look at a European chain, maybe one thats across both continents, like Parques Reunidos, who owns parks like Movie Park Germany, Slagharen, Bobbejaanland, Parque De Attraciones, Parque Warner, Lake Compounce, Kennywood, Story Land, Idlewild and a few others.
Thanks for the video! I agree with the rankings for the most part! Any thoughts on the teasers for Fiesta Texas? New coaster? New flat ride? They seem to be hyping it up a bit. There's hints of one or two rides being removed/relocated to make room too. I can easily see them relocating pandemonium to Darien Lake to clear space for something larger. There's a fair amount of room around where Pandemonium currently sits there.
A GCI would be great! I miss the original Rattler (as rough as it may have been!) so it'd be great to get a new woodie! Would the fact that Seaworld San Antonio is getting what appears to be a GCI effect the odds of Fiesta Texas getting one? Of course, the hype campaign that SFFT is going through claims that the new 2020 ride will be the only of its kind west of the Mississippi river as well as a ride not in various states east of the river (I don't remember the exact list)- so I think that rules out a GCI for 2020 anyway. The hints dropped suggest it's not a common ride type in the US, will have a steampunk theme, and will replace an older ride or building (Boomerang, the sky slinger, Pandemonium, and a few of the theatre buildings were shown as possible ones to be removed).
Six flags: you get a S&S free spin! You get an S&S free spin! You all get an S&S free spin!
Have all the S&S Free Spins in the woooorld!
It is good and doesn’t take up much space. Ride one at Great America. I loved it. Hope we get one at SFSL instead of another flat ride.
Just like the boomerang and pendulum ride
David Baines Also Six Flags: Wait Not you Magic Mountain. :)
Or,
S&S: How many freespins do you want?
Six Flags: YES
Six Flags: Over Texas is my home park, and I really don’t know why it isn’t much bigger. Not only is the park in corporate’s backyard, not only is it the original Six Flags park, not only are there a couple rides they could easily tear out and replace, but the DFW area even has population trend lines that should cause management at Six Flags to take notice
Just move the focus from Fiesta Texas to Over Texas
Thank you! We need a good coaster man. When I think TITAN is my favorite coaster out of the... 2 parks I've been to lately... there's a problem!
Fiesta Texas is my home park, with the current trend of a non-clone, original coaster every 2-3 years since 2013, we are doing very good. But Idk why Over Texas isn’t getting more investment, sorry about that you guys:(
I look at it this way, San Antonio/Austin/The Hill Country is THE tourist destination of Texas. They can talk about their population center all they want but SO many people go to that area for all kinds of other activities. The only major non water park in the state that Six Flags doesn't own is in San Antonio(Sea World) as is the Riverwalk and the Alamo to say nothing of the tourist sights up in Austin. And if you look at that trend line chart it's not just SA that's growing like crazy but Austin is as well. Dallas/Ft Worth is huge and growing too but it's not exactly a tourist destination. I've lived off and on in the Houston area over the last decade and outside of SFOT or HH water park I struggle to think what I might want to see in that area on a vacation. South Fork Ranch maybe? No disrespect intended because Houston is a lot like that too. Houston has the 4th largest metro area in the entire country behind only NY LA and Chicago and it wasn't enough to keep Astroworld open. And yes there are all the usual things a city the size of Houston has like pro sports, museums, ballet and opera venues and what not but people just don't come to the Houston area for a vacation that I can see.
There is another factor in play as well IMO. SFOT and SFOG aren't OWNED by Six Flags. They run the parks but the parks are actually owned by investor groups and that has to be a headache. In fact I know it's is because the investor group has sued corporate over under performance at SFOG in the past.
Honestly the whole company is kind of this mess of competing interests and managerial styles and identities. I've been to Sea World Orlando, Busch Gardens Tampa and Busch Gardens Williamsburg and those parks are a lot more coherent in their theming and their mission focus to me. They also aren't spreading themselves too thin by trying to run too many parks, expanding too quickly or putting in subpar coasters and flat rides just for the sake of having something new. They have a brand and they stick with it. That whole black fish thing screwed them up for awhile but they seem to be getting that stuff ironed out for the future.
They could take titan out and add a b&m hyper because it’s been having problems ppl would say why not a giga but no giga because their not ceader fair
When your park is ranked the lowest of lowest, of the lows...
_sad coaster noises_
I went to Great Escape last year. I really liked it (Aside from Canyon Blaster and the food options). In fact, I think that it is a mid-tier Six Flags Park (Above St Louis, La Ronde, Frontier City, Darien Lake, Discovery Kingdom, and America), in spite of it not getting investments.
Darien Lake has a nice atmosphere and a far better coaster collection than Great Escape. But both are still great parks. I just don't think Great Escape really beats Darien Lake or even St. Louis. But like I said, still a great place. The only bad Six Flags park is La Ronde.
Great Escape looks like a great park. It's just not in an area that'd justify development on par with a park like Great Adventure.
@@reillywalker195 I believe that in terms of rankings, Great Escape is extremely underrated.
Great Escape is fine. This guy bandwagons. Easy to tell.
Great Adventure should be putting in more thrill coasters, they have the potential to be the most attended park in the chain considering they haven’t been adding very exciting additions but still manage to beat out Great America in popularity. I think GAdv is going to be back to coasters again which I’m excited for.
I agree. Great adventure a great park but there issue is they keep putting in small rides or rides U see at other parks
I wish this video was made after the six flags announcement video cause sfga is getting the jersey devil.
Going over numbers Great Adventure and Magic Mountain are pretty much always neck and neck with yearly guests. They usually pass each other several times during the year.
Having SF St. Louis as a home park is painful. I love the hell out of that park just cause I grew up there but most of the rides are 20+ years old and pretty worn down. Most people I know have given up hope of ever getting anything interesting. It’s been 5 years since we even got a shitty, secondhand boomerang so I think that illustrates just how much interest they have in our park. It’s unfortunate since a lot of people in the area have nothing better to do during the summer months. With even a little bit of effort they could really boost their numbers :/
Yeah, I seriously can't imagine what anyone is ever thinking with that park. Yeah, the Cedar Fair ones not so far away in the state actually get it worse, even if one can compare/contrast the coasters they have now. However. St. Louis. Staffing issues but they just keep shoving in a new flat ride every year? How about removing Ninja (I am literally NEVER for removing those vekoma/arrow loopers, but that thing is horrible for it's own building history and in general)? Stop wasting money and manpower on running it? Replace it with a RMC raptor. There delusional if they don't believe that'll increase attendance. Why doesn't it have a free spin yet? The rides-too many are always closed, or declined incredibly. Remove a few. I loved Exalibur when it was "Evolution" at SFGADV for a couple years, but why do they keep pouring endless amounts of money into it? It's a moneypit, and SFGADV knew it-they experimented and said nope, St. Louis it's like there lovechild they refuse to stop with.
I will admit whether it's money or not, I am happy they haven't and probably won't RMC "The Boss" as I think it's great,
but they need A WHOLE NEW PLAN and priorities. I feel like the only reason why six flags as a whole still owns it is because they built it ground up.
At least it's not the great Escape
OneAndOnlySound they could easily remove Excalibur, Ninja, and Boomerang, and I don’t think anyone would be sad about it. They all suck
Hey Cedar Fair is not so great either. My home park is Valley Fair. You would think that the Cedar Fair company would be more considerate towards the first park it acquired and helped create its company name. But we havent gotten a new coaster since Renegade in 2007.
@@kayleg1861 They could also remove that stupid ass tidal wave ride in the corner of the park near sky screamer. It is literally almost never open and its just a far worse version of the log flume except it gets you more wet. The reason the attendance is so low is because people are bored of the park. Add something new and watch how much the numbers go up. Add the raptor and RMC the boss and SFSL would be amazing.
Six Flags America is literally 3 miles from my house but I go to Great Adventure if I want to go to a Six Flags. Also the season pass at Six Flags America is significantly cheaper than if you bought one at Great Adventure AND six flags season pass works at any of their parks
@ColdplayFan360 RollerCoasterFreak they really need to work on their customer service and roller coasters. They always get neglected
SFA was never the same after the company went bankrupt. It was as if they were going to sell it off, but kept deciding not to last minute with the hopes that they could at least hold on another year.
It’s my closest six flags park but I consider Kings Dominion to be my home park.
Dusk Raccoon Six Flags has made some questionable choices in their time, and what they’ve done to America makes no sense.
Great Escape and Frontier City should just be small local parks.
We only have three good coasters joker and Superman and the wild one
“Next is one that is one that has recently fallen out of the top, and that’s great adventure”
Six flags: Not for long
First ground up coaster since 2007 besides the free spin. Doubt we will get anything else
@@thegeniusman8757and now they have the first new gen vekoma thrill coaster in the country
Me: Magic mountain and six flags great adventure are the top
“The other coaster in the top teir is Great America”
Me “WHAT???”
I wasnt ready for it lol
Dylan Perry This was exactly what was going through my mind. And I was at Great America less than a week ago.
GA has a lot of guests for a smaller market compared to the rest of the Top 5, and generally gets much nicer stuff than even GrAv
It just has a lot there, and SF likes giving it the good stuff
Before Jersey devil we have one good the rest our sucky or just okay
I was thinking the same
great america is definitely in the top 3
7:14 that is an absolutely monstrous amount of parking lot.
New England should be back on its game soon cause they’re probably getting a coaster either next year or 2021 cause it’s their 150th anniversary
Infinite Coasters nope
@@Starlit43 they have a special announcement date this year, so uh yes
alex-i no it’s getting announced on the 29th with all the other six flags parks
I thought theyd get a coaster for 2021 but it looks like it really could happen in 2020
There isn’t that much room for more coasters I swear the park has used all its room imo. Joker barley fit even. Get rid of the slc then
You should do the seaworld parks next c:
Bush gardens Williamsburg
Bush gardens Tampa
Sesame place
Sea world San Diego
Sea world Orlando
Sea world San Antonio
(Idk if there’s more parks in the chain)
I love these Vids and look forward to watching them.
Also the people who live in an around the Reno NV area call six flags discovery kingdom their home park. ( but this was years ago when I lived there)
i agree
From someone in Six Flags America’s area we go to that park because during the summer there isn’t anywhere else to go. The closest ‘chain’ park is Kings Dominion. It gets super packed, and honestly unbearable. I just really wish the company would give it more tlc because if they did we’d support it soo much
35x25x40x52 = 1.8 mil p/y and the paint is peeling ....... sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
I don't know what my home park is. It's Blackpool Pleasure Beach, Drayton Manor or Alton Towers
So glad to see Great America so high on the list. I grew up going to Great America almost every year and once even ditched school to go with my friends. Many people over look it because we get such a short season due to the Midwest weather but I absolutely love the park and it has so many good coasters I often find myself wishing for 2 days to go to the park
I’ve been waiting for this video for a couple weeks! Finally it’s here, and it’s amazing!! Keep up more content like this
Now do Busch Gardens/Sea World Parks
All winners. Every park chooses quality over quantity and they really balance out their rides
Storm GD agreed
Storm GD they I do hate sea world for how they treat there orcas but there rides are good
I have a video in mind but its not really a winners losers video
@@AirtimeThrills I hope to see it soon!
Yesss. Six Flags Great America is amazing! I literally just got back from a visit
Great America needs to slow down (And this is coming from someone who's home park is Great America.
@@harrisonschneider8333 Great America is my home park. This is ridiculous but I think I would like it as a Cedar Fair park. Of course itll never ever happen. I just want quality coasters instead of quantity
The best thing great america could do is slow down for 2-4 years and then RMC american eagle
NumerousGeo - I have a tendency to be a park purist and even I would LOVE that. AE was such a rough ride last time I braved it, had neck and back pain the rest of the day. Never again.
Last time I was at Great America was when they had shock wave and iron wolf. It's been a while. Going next year though for a week.
This fits because Great Adventure just closed because they lost all their power
Patrick Drum sludged all the way there and didn’t post anything on twitter like they always do. The traffic on the e way back was horrendous.
Umm... how long will they be closed, do you know?
@@andrewmiller7108 I work in he park, and as soon as I went to leave everything turned on again yesterday
@@woahcelestial What ride or thing do you work? Will stop by and say Hi next time I'm there in a few weeks for Fright Fest!
@@ThoosieJP I'm a retail team member and have been for years! I have no idea where I'll be during fright fest though because retail scheduling is all over the place
Good to see Six Flags Mexico is on the list! The lack of competition in the area (if not the whole country), coupled with the park being in Mexico City, and the recent upgrade to Medusa by RMC that elevated the coaster to a new level really helped to increase the attendance to the park. Hopefully, SFMX will be getting more love in the following years. Something I really want, since I'm becoming a regular to the park despite living in a different state.
Cheers from Mexico and excellent job gathering all the info and "crunching" it down into a ranking.
Zahriel What would you like to see come next to SFMx?
@@seanlewis1148 Besides, a RMC Raptor would be great for the park considering the small footprint needed, perfect for the limited space SFMX has
I got a Disney World holiday ad on New England
One tricky thing about this is that a great park can get ridiculous crowds, taking away from the experience of visitors. Yes, I'm talking about Great America. What Great America calls a dead day would be an insanely crowded day at Great Adventure. For me, it's things like this that puts Great Adventure, Fiesta Texas, & New England as my top 3 Six Flags parks. Also with Magic Mountain, there are plenty of opportunities to visit on days that aren't crazy. I know that your video is more business related, which helps explain why Six Flags treats the parks the way they do. From that perspective, I agree with your placements. But for the experience we can get out of each park, I would be doing some shuffling.
Dude I don’t know why but I just can’t stop rewatching this video. I love it
4:21 the girls in the front were legit having a full conversation on Full Throttle. XD
Anyone else remember when the Vallejo one was Marine World Africa USA? I went there a few times as a kid.
I wasn't alive for that but It is my home park
For six flags New England you forgot to mention the Wicked Cyclone which released in 2015 and is easily the second best ride at the park behind Superman
17:20 That Batman: The Ride logo looks familiar 🤔 lol
Another really well edited and researched video! You've quickly become one of my favorite coaster channels. Even though Six Flags America is closer to me, I usually just bite the bullet and make the three and a half hour drive to Great Adventure because it's so much better. XD
Lol, that's ridiculous
Great america? Ah that sucks lol I live next to great adventure which is amazing! I rode kingda ka 4 times lol :D
@@shadowwall6495 u mean great adventure?
Shadow WALL You mean America, not Great America.
This is one of the few park tier lists that have great America over great adventure I’m so honored😭😭😭
Comet is an airtime machine, not just any relocated woodie, it's better than most rmcs
reelfishing sorry but rmc is the boss
Bruh. Hwve you even been on an RMC. All Comet is is a wooden coaster. If it was known for being amazing, Great Escape would clearly have more guests
@@andrewpennell7920 I've done 12 rmcs, I'd take Comey over 6 of them
@@reelfishing2263 what RMCs does Comet beat?
@@andrewpennell7920 twisted colossus
Iron rattler
Storm chaser
Twisted timbers
Twisted cyclone
New Texas giant
Joker
(Hey look I miscounted that's 7)
Been to Six Flags over Texas years ago - like 1978. Been to Six Flags Magic Mountain - last time 1-2 years ago. They used to own Wild Waves Enchanted Village near Tacoma, Washington until about 5-6 years ago. Need to visit some more of the them. :)
What's the acreage for Over Georgia? Also I remember hearing awhile back that the rides have a height limit due to the nearby airport.
Goliath is over 200 feet tall. And much as we all love gigas, hypers still make for an excellent park.
goose6413 The acreage for Over Georgia is 290, and if I'm not mistaken, 250 ft. is the height barrier.
@@seanlewis1148 Thanks for the info! That height barrier is a little higher than I thought
@@kevinmeyer1583 Indeed they do. I'm glad my home park has it especially with all of that sweet sweet floater air time that Goliath provides!
SFOG ranks 7th with 283 acres
Air Time Thrills. I have watched this video at least a half dozen times and I came to realize, that it must have taken quite some to put this put this together. This and the Cedar Fair video are very well done. This kind of more in depth information is fascinating to me. Please keep up the great work!These kind of videos and all your others videos will help get this New Englander get through our cold winters, thinking about the sunny days on a great coaster.
Thank you! And yes these research type projects do take a long time but theyre worth it
I've always been amused by how Great Escape's logo is literally a Vekoma Boomerang.
Yeah that made me laugh too
I suppose it's a reminder that parks don't primarily cater to the little coaster-freak subculture, for whom this is basically the international symbol for "yeah, we got nuthin'." But to the average person it's just a cool-looking roller coaster.
(I just noticed that La Ronde's current logo is a more cropped version of the same image.)
if you find that funny, the entire six flags chain sells magnets with a vekoma inverted boomerang, WITH THE COLORS from "Stinger" now removed from Dorney. THe chain only owned one of those at six flags america "Two-Face: The Flip Side" and never got another until the disastrous three pack "giant inverted boomerang." In other words, they sell magnets based on a coaster that never existed in any of there parks, or couldn't even photoshop it to be orange like the one they did once have and ditched.
You'd think they'd use lake George for the logo
Great video , just the the Cedar Fair one. Lots of great info and so entertaining, I didn't want the video to end.
Home Park is Over Texas. It’s not a bad park but not the best. They need to renovate the bathrooms and add a major original coaster. Yes I am aware that we are getting a Mack Power Splash.
Texas Mayhem preach brother! Also repaint the coasters!
@@respawnop4519 Judge and Titan are the only ones that need a repainting or a replacement of wood
Doctor Whooves Titan just needs an upgrade
Doctor Whooves Judge Roy got retracked recently but a paint job would help
Will Jones they need to ease up on the breaks on the mcbr. Look up early 2000s footage of Titan/Goliath. That sucker flew
Magic Mountain is my home park and favorite park to go to for Xtreme Screamz!
XTREME SCREAMZ Same here.
Were you able to ride West Coast Racers over the weekend?
@@seanlewis1148 No! I left for home (Arizona) the day before it opened! 😪
According to a manger at Six Flags I am a good friend with, Six Flags does in fact actually class their parks into tiers. However, there are only THREE tiers.
Does he have any specifics (i.e. parks within the tiers?)
Can you do this with Seaworld parks
Sfgadv needs to do what Hershey is doing Hershey is drawing from philly Harrisburg allentown and even NYC six flags does only philly and NYC and with both cities growing fast they should take advantage of this and add more bigger and better rides like hersheypark has been going for years
NYC should have its own local park apart from Coney Island. It actually used to have loads, namely Freedomland USA
@John Lorton I know that what I'm saying is they should take advantage of the growth of the two cities nj as itself yes has a lot of people but im.focusing on the growth of the major cities in the area like Philadelphia and nyc hersheypark sees this and has been taking advantage that's why they always add bigger rides and if it's not a big ride its multiple small ones cause they will always get more profit then the total price of the ride
@@arkitect156 dude Hershey builds coasters every 4 years it seems.
Six Flags Over Texas is in a position where if they want to add badass new coasters, they're gonna have to look at getting rid of some stuff. This works out, because they've got a handful of coasters that are either nearing the end of their life expectancy, or flat out running on life support.
A perfect candidate would be Judge Roy Scream. It's 40+ years old now, and it's got its own little plot of land with a potentially badass tunnel to queue for a new coaster.
Another move, that would be pretty bittersweet, would be Shock Wave that, while it's still a really great coaster, it's also 40+ years old and tucked away in its own little section of park. Removing that, the bumper cars next to it, and even the unused amphitheater could free up a pretty huge footprint and make way for a MASSIVE new flagship coaster for the park.
It sucks watchin all these flat rides come in when the park is new-coaster-starved, but there are definitely options for the foreseeable future for some really cool coasters.
I really enjoyed this video. Would be cool if we could see more of this.
2019: "Great Adventure has fallen out of the top tier)
2020: *Laughs in Jersey Devil*
19:05 my home park is la ronde and I really don't mind getting green lantern if it gets retracked and becomes as good as the european ones:)
Honestly sad to see it go from SFMM. I had great rides and never got hurt on it.
I hope the retracting and other changes made to the the relocated green later work out.. la ronde needs it. La ronde is my home park but Over the years I've been buying season passes to visit Canada's wonderland. Leviathan and Yukon striker alone make la ronde sad
I now have Vengabus stuck in my head. I hope you're happy.
(actually this video was really fascinating, but I do have Vengabus stuck in my head.)
Darein lake brings in alot of Canadians six flags would be wise to invest in this park
Rob Swan Yeah...RMC Predator.
He also noted it draws it's attendance from buffalo, which is not accurate. It is half way between Rochester and buffalo and draws from both major cities.
Love your videos! Thoughtful analysis. I found myself getting ready to question the placement of SFGAdv in Tier 2 before you broke it down. No argument!
Makes me glad that I live right in between great adventure and New England on LI, and thanks for pointing out that New England might get a new coaster! I had no idea with all the great adventure news rn, if both get a new coaster I’m gonna freak 😁
Long Island needs a big amusement park.
I live 28 minutes from six flags great adventure, three hours from Six Flags New England , and three hours for Six Flags America
Well, COVID had other ideas and the new ride turned out to be a flat anyway. But the buzz now is speculation about what they might replace the defunct Giant Inverted Boomerang with.
I surprised myself with how excited I got upon seeing this vid uploaded. I love this series!
“Great America is higher than Great Adventure”
Great Adventure: Have you seen my RMC Raptor?
Jersey Devil certainly helps its case. When I made this video we didn't know that was coming and Great Adventure had been suffering for a long time
Over Georgia is unique in that it is the only park in that area. They also had a gap in flat rides that needed to be filled. Same deal with St. Louis. Also, it is a little known fact that from 2005-2010, Six Flags America was up for sale.
That one I haven’t heard being mentioned to be sold, but I can see it.
@@SiebayPlays Because Six Flags didn't make it a public fact that Six Flags America was up for sale. They would have sold it if they got the right offer.
Six Flags St. Louis is my home park and is a really strange situation. It was the 3rd park built by the original Six Flags company and I think I read it's the only park that is still wholly owned and operated by the company. I could be wrong though. The park has a lot of potential. I remember a time when I would have to wait hours to get on rides but as time went on, six flags just seemed to not care anymore and as quality slipped, so did attendance. Six Flags is more worried about sure things and have kinda given up on the "if they build it, they will come!" Mentality. It could truly be a destination park, especially with the tourism numbers that St. Louis draws.
SFStLo is suffering from a low population base and strong competition IMO. You've got Silver Dollar City and Wonderland pulling in people on the other edges of the state and Missouri is not exactly a hot bed of growth. It's also unfortunately not a tourist destination outside of maybe Branson and the Ozarks area. And Branson is a big problem for any competing attraction in KC or StLo.
Well it could be worst everyone! My home park was astroworld.
James Morgan I heard that Travis was bringing it back.
I miss Catapult and Splashwater Falls at SFNE, which both were from Astroworld. Sky Swat and Diablo Falls from there.
Sky swat was a lot of fun.
@@jamesmorgan7299 it was my favorite ride when we got it at SFNE, still is. Even though it's been removed. Such a unique ride.
The best thing about was how the seat shifted and when they were empty it created an extra level of fear that something was wrong. If I remember it right
Six flags: You get a joker themed ride. You get a joker themed ride! YOU ALL GET A JOKER THEMED RIDE!!!!!!
Tips to help Great Adventure back to #1:
Green Lantern: Kill it with fire and put something much better/less leg and nut killing (see entry 3)
The Dark Knight: Revamp/Remodel
Add a single rail raptor coaster plz
Never ever get rid of El Toro or Nitro.
Syntania Yeah.....a new Scream Machine by S&S on place of Crap Lantern!!!
I’m just chillin over here with my homepark being Magic Springs...
Our “standout” coaster is an SLC 🥴
I kinda hoped Six Flags would’ve picked that park over Frontier City, but here we are.
SiebayRoo I would have too but Magic Springs isn’t really close to a large population center (the Little Rock metro has about 800,000 people) and Magic Springs itself only gets about 300,000 - 400,000 a year in annual attendance. It’s a nice little amusement park but I’m afraid that it’ll never be able to grow into something larger. But ya never know...
...I was confused when you called Six Flags a Discount chain, but it only took 6 minutes into the video to realize why...Growing up in Chicago and now living in Los Angeles...my home Six Flags have been treated very nicely hahaha.
When you start looking at what it cost to go to Universal or Disney and you look at the way those companies run their park it becomes pretty apparent why he calls it a discount chain. Busch Gardens W was my home park growing up and I still think it's a great park but Universal and the Mouse are on a whole different level in price and in theming/operations.
Over gorgera needs to be at number 5 or 6
As someone who has been to Great Escape numerous times; six flags ran that park into the ground. It used to be this quirky family owned park with the extremely underrated Comet, but now it’s that six flags park that no one goes to with ads everywhere and it’s just unfortunate. Although, I think just one new coaster addition would be nice. The park has room for a B&M hyper, I’ll settle for a small scale RMC or a Bermuda blitz
I always love how much effort you put into your lists and as a european its very informative aswell!
Great stuff
The biggest problem Six Flags Great Escape has is that Six Flags New England is 90 miles away from Albany, NY. If you want thrills and a decent Six Flags park and you live in the Capital District area, of New York State,, Six Flags New England is between 90 minutes and about 2 hours away (your travel time could be shorter, depending on how much speeding you are willing to do on the MassPike... but beware of the Lee barracks Staties. They're pricks.) I think Six Flags owns the Great Escape as a defensive position... it does not want Cedar Fair or another company with deep pockets to enter the market that they have successfully sewn up. The other amusement parks are small and geared towards locals. Six Flags appears to have decided that the Great Escape is for families with children under 12 and that's that. Overall, Lake George is tired looking; it has certainly seen better days. It's worthwhile for Six Flags to maintain it, to occasionally put a New to You attraction there, but more than that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Just 10 more days until announcements
I see hope in Six Flags America. They have a huge hurricane harbor compared to other six flags. They had the new sleek Firebird added this year, and are about to add the Harley Quinn Spinsanity. They also have alot of undeveloped land. Yes it is pretty bad now, but the future is looking good for it.
22:08 Every time man! You are on the short list of favorite video producers. Keep it up dude! :)
I'm okay with this list cuz I do go to New England and I also go to Great Adventure so I'm happy with that awesome video by the way
I live in Albany, I'm basically right in the middle of NE SF. TGE is 45 mins from me, New England is 2 hours, SFGADV is 3-4 hours depending on NYC traffic, La Ronde is 3 hours away as long as the border cooperates, and Darien Lake is 4 hours away. That's alot of parks within a days drive that I can get into with my SF membership.
U don’t know how long I’ve been waiting for this
Used to go to Great Escape as a kid for Oktoberfest with the extended family. Major nostalgia; I see the facts here but I hope it doesn't go away. And I hope it still has the rides I remember... I should get out there this summer
The way he said Canobie lake sent me lmao
Very interesting much better then anything I’ve seen from coaster studios
@Airtime Thrills As a life-long OKC resident I can tell you reasons why I feel SF chose to aquire Frontier City. There are a number of likely contributing factors: 1.) Frontier City has been a permanent fixture since it's opening in 1958.
2.) With the introduction of an NBA in OKC, the population and commercial growth has been insane. The stats may say 13%, but they may not account for people moving within the state, to OKC, which we see often.
3.) In addition to Frontier City, they also acquired White Water Bay, a large Waterpark in OKC as well.
4.) SF over Texas is a short 3.5 hr drive from it, making it a nice trip straight down 1-35 for touring park-goers.
5.) While it is in the city, it's on the rural outskirts, surrounded by a lot of underdeveloped land, making future expansion a big possibility!
6.) The ODOT approved and completed a new Turnpike that makes access to OKC possible from every surrounding highway. It gives direct access to the park from many rural areas, cutting driving time nearly in half, thus adding thousands more to daily and seasonal guest potential.
I've been to Great Escape and Great Adventure. While the two times I went to GA were field trips, I remember driving up to Lake George/Queensbury with my family every summer as a kid to go to GE, and loving it every time we went. It's definitely more diverse/family oriented in terms of the rides it has, but it's still a fun and pretty park that doesn't deserve the lack of attention it gets.
Continuing the idea from a comment in the Cedar Fair Business Model video, Six Flags Parks Portrayed By SpongeBob.
•Magic Mountain
~"Life's as extreme as YOU WANNA MAKE IIIIIIIIIIT!!!!! WOO!!!"
•Great America
~"Time for a well-balanced breakfast. (Busts through fridge with food on head) This isn't what I had in mind!"
•Great Adventure
~"(Holds up dime) There she is!"
~"Wow! That's more than I make in a year!"
•Fiesta Texas
~"Fiery Fist O' Pain, here we come!"
~"Yeah, dudes! We're _all_ riding the Fist O' Pain!"
~"I heard someone rode it and his _spine_ fell out."
~"Du-u-ude! I hope _my_ spins falls out."
~"Ye-heah, me too!"
•New England
~"Where are we going? Fancy Springs?"
_~"Noooo!"_
~"Pamper Island?"
~"Try again!"
~"Oh, oh-oh! Old Bikini Bottom Folk Village?"
~"Better than that!"
•Discovery Kingdom
~"Not only do they have the largest oyster held in captivity; it also does tricks! _He spits a giant pearl 100 feet in the air! Like a cannonball!"_
•Mexico
~"Who's number 46,853!? (Crowd cheering)"
_~"I've_ never had 46,853 customers!"
•Over Georgia
~"He makes me sick, just look at him! Those big, _bulging_ eyes, that _square_ body, those two buckteeth, and its _stupid_ tie!"
•Over Texas (Continuing from Over Georgia)
~"Uh... Ahem."
~"Oh, but it looks good on _you,_ SpongeBob! (Giggles)"
•St. Louis
~"Aaahh! It's the Flying Dutchman!"
~"Aaahh! It's some guy that I've never seen before!"
•La Ronde
~"I give you... KRABBY LAND!!!"
~"YAAAY! (Shock; run-down dump of a park)"
•America
~"I've got a ton of awards for SpongeBob Squarepants!"
~"(Steaming) WHY CAN'T I DO ANYTHING RIGHT!? (Smashes broom; customers cough)"
•Great Escape
~"Hey, look everybody! It's cousin Plankton! YEEEE-HAW!!!"
~"...I've been away from home longer than I thought."
•Darien Lake
~"Why, everyone in town has benefited from Sandy's scientific knowledge! Before Sandy showed up, I _used_ to be a scrawny weakling!"
•Frontier City
~"Oh, come on! How many times does the carnival come to town? (Sign says Carnival Always Here)"
I know it would be a short video but what about sea world/Busch?
Next project will be about what Sea World is doing lately
Great Adventure is my home park! (One of two actually since I'm also nearby Hersheypark) I think it would become great again if Jersey Devil comes out great; though I am glad and do agree that it belongs in a high tier level. (I'm a beginner coaster enthusiast and still learning lol)
YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!
Very grateful to have SFMM as my home park
Yup...I remember when six flags New England was still “riverside”. He’s absolutely not kidding, by the way. This is my home park and to get there, you’re basically riding through a small town of locals yelling “yo, go get the CAHHHH, Joey!”
I like how he called canobie “kenobe” I’ll be honest first time I’ve heard that
I go to great America but didn't think it will be 2nd place and I love it.
*Happy coaster noises*
Also love great America
YEAH! SIX FLAGS NEW ENGLAND! 2ND TIER! WOOO! LET'S GO!
I hope they announce a new coaster for 2022 considering how they're probably going to replace Goliath (it's closed for 2021 and all signs show it's being removed)
SAME !
Frontier city is a very charming little park. It felt like a small town Knott's just lacking in stand out coasters but diamondback is awesome.
My home park is over Texas and it's sad but true how there is literally no where to expand. It's especially sad bc it's the first six flags and it's low on the list. I feel like it needs another coaster or something but idk if it has room. :(
From experience at other parks expect noise complaints once that housing opens and then 365 model be done with as well as late openings
Talking about the size of the parks, my home park is 42 acres with no space for expansion. But it does have an Arrow hyper and got a Mack multi launch a couple of years ago.
Omg you used a peice of my six flags Darien lake commercial 2019 video! But don’t worry I’m not upset I’m actually happy my intended purpose was to show others this commercial and maybe help them when looking for videos to use regarding six flags😄
You pronounced Canobie Lake Wrong 11:43... It’s pronounced Can - A - Bie, Can like soup can, O sounds like an A and Bie like Bee 🐝. Just thought you should know cause it’s my home park😁
Next video: How the Owners of Canobie Lake Park Choose Their Winners and Losers
Winner: Canobie Lake Park Loser: Canobie Lake Park
(Meanwhile, Story Land and Lake Compounce are actually owned by a vast European chain with huge parks over there.)
Ah Parques Reunidos... known here in Europe as Worse Compagnie De Alpes...
Parques Reunidos is a big chain but really doesnt add tons of rides to their parks, and really favors some parks over some others. Although its not a bad chain, ill admit that. They do add 1 or 2 coasters per year, This year Fury at Bobbejaanland and Steel Curtain, last year a quiet year with only Merlins Mayhem i think, and the year before Gold Rush and Star Trek: Operation Enterprise.
Is the A pronounced like "ay!" or "uh"?
@@visionist7 uh so like Can-uh-bee
Canobie Lake doesn't go around saying "hello there".
I haven’t watched the whole video, but did you mention that it was the owners of tiny Frontier City that bought the entire Six Flags chain in 1998? They (Premier Parks) took the Six Flags name and the offices of FC became the Six Flags Corp. HQ for many years.
SFOTexas needs to replace shockwave with a new "record breaking height" of some kind coaster. it being right there next to the interstate it would look amazing driving by, and also its a great location at the back of the park away from most of the smaller rides
FYI TGE draws from more places than just Albany, Lake George is a major tourist spot as it's the gateway to the Adirondacks. Many people from NYC come up to visit in the summer. It's still bottom tier but it's not as bad as you think.
In this video, I took the cities right from the Six Flags shareholder report so apparently they were only looking at Albany as the main city
And a lot of people come from places like Vermont. And that relocated woodie was 19th best coaster in 2019.
Wassup great vid
Yessssss
My home park was a Six flags park. It was called Six flags Kentucky Kingdom. But closed in 2010 now reopened. During it time with six flags they added some good rides. Like the Pequin blizzard river and other. Before it closed they added Deludge. Mega weggie and that about it. But also took out Chang. The park big name stand up coaster. Now the park is doing as good as it was
Six Flags Great America is my home park, and I always considered Great Adventure as a higher tier park in the chain, with El Toro, Kingda Ka, Nitro, and Medusa/Bizarro in their lineup. After watching your video, I can see why you ranked SFGAM in the Top 2. Goliath, Maxx Force, and X-Flight are really strong additions in the past 10 years. The Joker 4D and Justice League ride are solid clones, plus the Mardi Gras Hangover Larson Loop seems to be a general public crowd pleaser. I am a bit disappointed that they removed Ragin Cajun, as it was a really strong spinning coaster that I greatly preferred to that Larson Loop. If things are going the way you say, I think the online rumors of a RMC American Eagle might actually happen in 2021. Sure, I'd love Great America to be the first Six Flags park to get a Giga, but I think a RMC Eagle could easily be a Top 10, if not Top 5 ranked coaster if done right. I just hope they find a way to keep that epic helix somehow.
RMC Eagle would be cool. Ride needs it. My knees always hurt after riding it
@@BobMocarski Everyone else in the comments section are raging how it would be the worst if RMC comes in because its a classic. I dont know I think RMC would be perfect for AE
I live near DC and I’ve never been to Six Flags America...as a kid my mom always said it was sketchy and we preferred Hershey Park, Kings Dominion, and Busch Gardens. Now that I’m older, I’d still rather go to those three quality parks full of nostalgia, good rides, and decent theming.
Yeah I friends that went to JMU and they always preferred BGW, so much so that when I mentioned SFA they had completely forgotten that it existed. LOL BGW was my home park growing up and I definitely have a soft spot for it.
I'm curious if "Jersey Devil" bumped Great Adventure back up to Tier 1.
Honestly, I don't know if I can call any parks true winners
Thank Kieran Burke and Gary Story for the roller coaster boom of the late 90s and early 2000's.
i will always love six flags america no matter what anybody says. i used to go there with my grandma all the time in the summer and i have so many nostalgiac memories with it
Happy to hear your thoughts on it. I was surprised when you said great America as the top tier, but thinking about it, it makes total sense. I wish my home park could have squeezed into too tier, but your right, SF seems to be loosing some interest in GADV
This is my favorite video on your channel
Dude, awesome video. I love stuff like this. Super interesting to watch. Thanks!!!
Maybe you should look at a European chain, maybe one thats across both continents, like Parques Reunidos, who owns parks like Movie Park Germany, Slagharen, Bobbejaanland, Parque De Attraciones, Parque Warner, Lake Compounce, Kennywood, Story Land, Idlewild and a few others.
Thanks for the video! I agree with the rankings for the most part! Any thoughts on the teasers for Fiesta Texas? New coaster? New flat ride? They seem to be hyping it up a bit. There's hints of one or two rides being removed/relocated to make room too. I can easily see them relocating pandemonium to Darien Lake to clear space for something larger. There's a fair amount of room around where Pandemonium currently sits there.
My prediction was in a few years they would move Pandemonium to SFOG and replace that and the go karts with a GCI
A GCI would be great! I miss the original Rattler (as rough as it may have been!) so it'd be great to get a new woodie! Would the fact that Seaworld San Antonio is getting what appears to be a GCI effect the odds of Fiesta Texas getting one?
Of course, the hype campaign that SFFT is going through claims that the new 2020 ride will be the only of its kind west of the Mississippi river as well as a ride not in various states east of the river (I don't remember the exact list)- so I think that rules out a GCI for 2020 anyway. The hints dropped suggest it's not a common ride type in the US, will have a steampunk theme, and will replace an older ride or building (Boomerang, the sky slinger, Pandemonium, and a few of the theatre buildings were shown as possible ones to be removed).