Six Flags' Biggest Mistakes
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- Six Flags has a long tumultuous history. These are their biggest mistakes, plus some of the things I think they've done well.
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Biggest mistake for Six Flags: closing Astroworld and leveling it hoping to get a lot of money from the sale and demolition of the park only getting less than what they expected
Last I checked, that plot of land is STILL empty. They sold Splashtown in the Houston area, but they ended up buying it back because they realized they were stupid not to have a toehold in one of the nation's largest metropolitan areas.
They literally forfeited a monopoly in one of the most populous greater metros in the US… to sell land in a state where land is notoriously cheap. Big oof.
That was the biggest mistake ever! They only got back what it took to tear it down.
I feel like if any other person was in charge of six flags besides Kieran burke Astroworld probably would’ve stayed open
@@CEWThree It is. I drive by it to go to Hobby frequently and while a few small parcels on the edge have sold most of it sits there vacant.
Reusing coaster names across parks and ride types is a big mistake. GP knows what iconic rides are with unique names, like Top Thrill Dragster or Velocicoaster. Having 20 Goliaths just confuses people and diminishes the value of the original.
Like Space Mountain an Big Thunder Mountain
GPs don't care :/ this is just a spoiled coaster enthusiast thing (I actually thought it was cool they had clones when I was a GP I thought "oh they have the same ride like the one at home!"
They also have unique rides like twisted collosus x2 and many unique woody coasters like the boss
Six Flags and Cedar Fairs shared mistake: Geagua Lake.
I feel like Six Flags is a missed opportunity. Instead of embracing their budget park status, they tried to be something they are not. Walmart doesn't try to be Target. You are the discount park, offer discount experiences. Give a better bang for your buck. Make the food reasonably priced. I eat before I go because I am not spending $13 for a slice of pizza. I am cheap, you are cheap, we are a match made in heaven. Sia loves cheap thrills and so do I.
As disastrous as its been for them recently, it wasnt that good before either while they were embracing the discount chain status. I dont know if theres any good answers for them, maybe just try to emulate cedar fair as much as possible
They rlly do need to stop trying to be like Cedar Fair cuz if I’m gonna spend that kinda money I’m gonna go to a nice ass park with a great atmosphere, great quality services (rides, games, food etc) and friendly staff. In my experience, Six Flags parks don’t have any of that plus they’re prices are even more outrageous especially considering, like I said, their quality compared to Cedar Fair parks😭
This thread is wild to read given recent events
@@domenichughes7792 LOL True
I will never forgive Six Flags for demolishing Astroworld and its weird collection of coasters. A Coney Island Cyclone clone, the first working Arrow swinging coaster, the first Intamin standing coaster, the only US Togo Ultratwister, a trio of Schwarzkopf loopers, an indoor coaster… and the park had outdoor AC units to cool down the wait lines.
Their best decision in my opinion, is keeping classic (even if aging) coasters around. Viper at SFMM is still my favorite, and I'm always happy to see an old-school coaster still going after all these years.
I really love viper. To me that's what a coaster looks like. Big, prominent, and full of loops. ITs so classic,
@studio732jrl2 I seriously hope not. They Replaced the Scream Machine with a seriously inferior stand up ride called the green lantern. That ride just kind of bangs me around and makes me feel like I have a hangover
I love viper too. I hate how much people hate on it lol
Viper's still my # 3 at the park, behind X2 & Twisted Colossus
@@Stalemarshmallow Same
We gotta get a sequel with cedar fair. The done made there fair share as well.
Yeah number one is building Intimidator 305 that's it
number one being selling cga 😭
@@woody72691 shoot the rapids was way worse.
Buying Geauga Lake just to close it without warning!
@@woody72691 hey.... I305 is without a doubt, the best giga coaster out there. Maybe not the most GP friendly, but it is the best giga.
How do you keep pumping out so many great videos so often
Lack of sleep for sure
Don’t get burned out my man
That's what we wonder too! It's hard enough getting one video out a week! And we are two single people!
I was thinking the same!
For Six Flags Great Adventure, The Chiller would have fit in.
Your point is very valid. I actually love six flags. They take major risks. Intamin nuit American eagle , rmc new Texas giant etc so yes there are failures with risks but look without six flags we may have never had an rmc.
I like how you focused on the positives at the end! I just love the fact they gave some of the best manufacturers today their first chance
The six flags, rmc relationship is probably one of the strongest in the industry.It’s awesome these two have and will keep doing business, which is good for all parties.
I dont see the bitter part of it
@@AirtimeThrills my bad, wrong wording.
The closure of AstroWorld +neglect of of it that prompted its closure is another. There was also AutoWorld 1984 & Power Plant (no rides at all) both Disney entertainment inspired parks. AutoWorld lasted a bit longer & had planned on adding coasters etc. PP might have lasted If they a few rides (even Gary Goddard Prod. suggested Intamin freefall having track surpass smoke stacks interior to entice guests) Even a carousel. One of the effects made it to AstroWorld. Condor tower was a ride rotation, Adventure Rivers as well. I agree, Selim should NOT put cart b4 horse & raised prices. Paint stuff 1st & improve food + cleanliness of the parks. Don't alienate your older core fans. Improve the "legacy" rides. Speelunker's was great. Nostalgia merch. would have worked for that ride as well. Lots of other touches to older attractions & more family rides would round out experience. Even w/ nearly 50 parks, they were STILL 2nd to Disney.
Demolishing Astroworld was their biggest mistake ever
6:01 Finally! Someone else gets it! They also didn't invest enough in maintaining what was already there.
Personally speaking from a person who went to six flags great adventure as a guest from age 0 to 17 and then working there from age 18 to 29, one thing I’d say about six flags and even most amusement parks need to bring back for a family aspect is shows. Like when I was a kid, SFGAd had amazing shows like the Batman stunt show and the Lethal Weapon Water Stunt Spectacular. As a kid, I didn’t go door the roses, I wanted to go and see the amazing shows. And I feel like that’s something Six Flags has lost as a whole. Like yes, you can ride the newest, craziest ride, but if you’re at a park for a day and you need to eat and can’t go on rides until your food settles, what is there to do? A show can be just as impactful as a ride. That’s why I worked for the entertainment department of Great Adventure while I worked there. Because those shows I saw as a kid made me want to be a part of that and try (if anything) to be a part of bringing that back (which they didn’t).
You are right about that. They had great shows back then. Now parks for the most part don’t have good shows. Or even venues leveled or vacant. How come parks don’t have good shows anymore? Why level the grandstand and have nothing?
I agree. I think SFGAd also used to have a diving show. It’s pretty dumb they removed them all.
Not to mention it was a show park from the beginning. The Great Arena had a great stunt-style show and the water ski shows and the Showcase Theatre shows were very high quality.
100% agree. Remember when Fiesta Texas was known as a Show Park? And won multiple golden tickets for it
Just saying that Raging Bull never got VR for the exact reason you mentioned. It’s too popular and the hyper twister layout was too difficult to make VR for. It ultimately ended up going on Demon as it was easier for VR and was an attraction with low ridership initially.
Ah ok, i just specifically remember it advertised and thinking it was stupid.
Fun fact. Great adventure had a chance rides built scrambler esc ride. Another fun fact. Sfno originally bought a slc but that deal fell thru. That ride is now gauntlet at magic springs
"Based off my experiences at Magic Mountain the last few months of the year, I honestly have never seen the park that dysfunctional"
WOW that is saying A LOT!!!
One mistake for Six Flags Great Adventure is not building double sided lockers for their coasters that don't allow any loose articles.
Not Their Fault Its The New Jersey Law Being Very Strict
What do you mean by double sided lockers?
@@VenusTemple Lockers which can be accessed while you are in line for a ride (usually close to the point when you board the ride) to store your items securely in them. Then, after riding, the exit path will take you to the opposite side of that same locker so you can get your stuff out. Every individual locker has 2 doors, facing in opposite directions from each other.
Prominent examples of rides with double-sided lockers include Velocicoaster, Steel Vengeance, and Twisted Timbers. In all of these instances, the lockers are both mandatory to use, but also free to use. This way, virtually all objects in people's pockets and bags end up in the lockers and aren't at risk of falling out during the ride.
@@CoasterCrest oooooo I see. I really wish Great Adventure had something like that. They only have cubby holes for your drinks. Some rides have little bins for your glasses and hats. But most rides require you to pay for a locker that's right outside the ride.
For once, I'm glad that great america didn't get mentioned much
Great America's biggest mistake: De-Theming the park just for a rollercoaster and retheming Yankee Harbor for DC universe
I still get a yearly check for like $12 from that class action biometrics suit LOL I remember how long those lines were
To this day I ask myself how things would have been if Premier had been smarter about acquiring every park they could find. Keeping themselves and Six Flags separate might’ve been better in the long run, even if they had the smaller parks.
But hey, I’ve always known my home park personally as Six Flags and it’s hard to imagine it any other way, though my parents might say otherwise.
Their biggest mistake is hiring this new CEO who seems to hate the current customers. In a year he has ruined magic mountain.
Another mistake for Great Adventure was deferring maintenance on Rolling Thunder to the point where they had no choice but to tear it down. It's a big empty hole that still hasn't been filled in yet. Closing Astroworld was also mentioned as a big chain wide mistake, which I agree with.
7:18 That's an interesting point: Six Flags also bought or invested in several parks here in Europe, e.g. Six Flags Belgium (ex Walibi Wavre, now Walibi Belgium), Six Flags Holland (ex. Walibi Flevo, now Walibi Holland), Warner Bros. Movie World Germany (now Movie Park) and Warner Bros. World Madrid (opened in 2002, now Parque Warner), which is the most Six Flags-like Park in Europe including the continent's only Batman clone. Long story short: There's no Six Flags park in Europe anymore.
I made the mistake of riding Demon with VR. My brother’s headset didn’t work, the dispatches were just as slow as you said, and even though I can say I got the experience and it’s one that not many people do have I still regret it to this day as an hour or 2 wasted. If I knew Raging Bull had it I would have totally done that instead.
Good decision: Letting Jeffrey Seibert have full control of Fiesta Texas.
Facts. Though i still think he needs to run ideas up the flagpole
@@AirtimeThrills Probably, but it's clear they trust him. If only the whole chain as like Fiesta Texas.
I do agree with the biometric scan. I had never done it at any of the Six Flags parks but I have done it at Disney World in both 2015 and 2022 and every time I had gone to Universal Studios Hollywood since becoming a passholder there since 2012 and 2014 (didn't have one in 2013 but I have been a passholder there for the last 9 years). It is a pain. If the machine has a hard time reading your fingerprint, you will need to take out your ID card (or some other form of identification) to prove that you are the owner of the annual pass. And at the Disney parks, you may also have to reset your fingerprint ID.
My home park is six flags St. Louis. I remember the vr storm coming through, and they decided to put it on the least popular attraction in the park, Ninja. It was the middle of summer, very hot, and very crowded. The once inexistent line for Ninja was hours long because of constant vr malfunctions from the heat and the sun. It was not fun.
Mistake: Only retracking one section of Predator instead of the whole thing. Hopefully they do more soon.
If it needs it I bet it's coming
I think Six Flag is making a mistake by not buying Darien Lake from EPR properties, that park has so much potential to be a good park and I think EPR is holding Six Flags back from doing what they really want to do.
Being the closest Six Flags to us, us being in the Eastern Panhandle of WV, 60 miles away; I feel as though ignoring Six Flags America's potential is a mistake. I've heard stories of people who have had a horrible time there and people who have had a great time there. We are of the latter and had a great time, both times we've been. Granted, it is a smaller park, but it seems it has room to grow. I feel with the competition to the south with Kings Dominion and Busch Gardens, as well as to the North with Hershey and Dorney, this Six Flags location could be a hard hitter if they did a few big investments over the next few years.
I have been to the park a few times over the past couple of year (minus the covid thing) and the last 2 times i went, half the rides were down, there were no food shops open, only the big restaurants, I could go to the bar to get Adult beverages, but no drinks stands were open either, so had to go to shops to buy bottle water. The good thing was the park was empty (it was a tuesday) and we had the ability to ride all the open rides as often as we wanted, but the main rides we went to ride were closed, so in all not a good experience and I am debating going back again, had a much better time at Kings Dominion, they only had Flight of Fear closed.
Mistake tearing down Rolling Thunder at GAdv instead of RMCing it.
For six flags to become a family park they need to seriously beef up the non thrill experiences. Shows, parades, dark rides, and better food. You can’t be set up for thrill rides then be surprises when thrill seekers are your primary demographic.
The Zac Spin is one of the worst things I have ever seen at a six flags park
It's really hard to top the Haunted Castle fire. Purchasing bad rides and too many parks is one thing, but those typically don't kill anyone.
This feels like a video that will garner a lot of attention, and I believe there’s a whole lot more that could’ve been covered but the video would’ve taken too long.
Six Flags has such an interesting history when it comes to Darien Lake since they acquired it, sold it off and then came back a decade later without adding as much as some of their other properties. It seems like Darien Lake has never been more relevant on a national level than when Six Flags has been involved, but I don’t think it’s ever been capable of reaching another level for reasons that may likely be out of the control of Six Flags. Someone who has followed the park closely for years said that they considered giving Darien Lake the Geauga Lake treatment at a point in time but decided not to and that may have been for the better. At this rate, I don’t know what would happen if Six Flags left a second time but I believe some big investments need to made to the park soon in order to thrive in the future.
DL is huge and has a lot of potential. Just not sure six flags would want to invest in the smallish city of buffalo
@@AirtimeThrillsI can understand that. Without Niagara Falls and the local teams there’s not as much of an incentive to get people to come to that area. It wold be nice if there was an indoor water park to go along with the lodge so that there’d be an attraction that’s open all year.
I enjoyed VR on their drop tower at Great America. it also made it less scary height wise.
@studio732jrl2 It was actually a pretty unique experience... you can still feel the forces. I'd say try it before you knock it.
Big agree on the international program being a positive. Not only is it a massive reason for the parks being able to operate at all, but as a former Six Flags employee myself it was an amazing experience getting to meet people from all over the world.
Do a video about the top 10 Inhouse coasters
Viper at SFGA better be on there
Or the beast and don't forget about or canibal
Or coaster that had elements added later on in its life such as Phantom Revenge or Doduumpa with a vertical loop
Biggest mistake for Six Flags: (at least SFGrAm) is not investing enough money in preventative maintenance. I feel the the SF chain could have much better older rides if they had invested more money in maintaining them like CF does.
A lot of misshaps? A lot? I would use a well, BIGGER word
Buy or sell cedar fair will by a six flags park and make it a top tier replacing Carowinds in the top 4
Six Flags Great America was not specifically mentioned, but their biggest mistake was The Edge.
While I agree that it's a mistake for SF to go "premium," I also think they need to do more to appeal to families if they want to remain competitive, as the teen/young adult market isn't profitable in the long run. They can stay the "discount" chain while investing in family rides/areas to give families a cheaper alternative to CF. Unfortunately, this would require long-term planning, which doesn't seem to be SF's strong suit.
Gotta say closing Astroworld was one of their biggest mistakes. To this day that land is still seating there vacant and undeveloped. And Houston is the 4th largest metro in the entire US. The fact that Fiesta Texas and SFOT are close enough to make a multipark season pass even more tempting than it would be to the average consumer also worked against that decision as well.
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I didn’t think it would be by park for the first half, I thought it would be for the company the whole way through.
Great vid, Airtime. I’m new to this coaster enthusiast thing and it was you who introduced me to this.
can’t believe airtime himself hearted this
I'm still receiving compensation from Six Flags for that fingerprint lawsuit. 😂
Must be nice 😂
Frankly, a bigger mistake involving Six Flags WoA was selling the park to Cedar Fair, giving them a de-facto monopoly over that area of Ohio. You're telling me no other buyers could suffice?
I got a CF version of this video which concludes the Geauga mistakes. Six flags selling it to a company that would axe the park was probably a good thing for their bottom line
Would you consider Batman and Robin at Great Adventure a mistake?
My family made the mistake of going to six flags great adventure when it was understaffed. We vow not to go back there ever again.
I’d like a deeper dive into the financial mistakes and leadership changes!
Its a really old video and the quality aint great but my 2019 "when did six flags become the discount chain" video goes into all that
I remember going to discovery kingdom and Harley Quinn crazy coaster was always closed we had session passes and I never saw it open
The price increase made me wanna spend less money in the park. And wait to eat after it just eat before.
I think another Mistake is Astroworld which caused them money
For six flags great adventure removing the great American scream machine was a big mistake
their biggest mistake was when they went bankrupt instead of just getting more money, kind of a financial L
As someone who knew Marine World when it was originally Marine World Africa USA - their biggest mistake at that park (other than some of the coasters) is changing the name to Discovery Kingdom. Still possibly the worst park name ever.
I absolutely agree
Do Disney and Universal, as well as Seaworld/Hershen
This is a great idea! Will you do the same for the other chains? (Cedar Fair, SeaWorld, etc)
CF video is already done, others i will have to see what i can come up with. Also i just used one of your ideas for a video, that will come out next month with a shoutout (extinct models we want to come back)
@Airtime Thrills Oh, thank you so much! You helped me get over my fear of roller coasters. You telling me that roller coasters could be bad or boring helped me see them as nothing to be afraid of! Next time I go to Orlando with my family, I am making up for years of lost credits!
I can think of some for my home park of La Ronde. The main one I can think of is cheaping out on Monstre's new trains in 2013. When it came time to replace the old Morgan trains, Six Flags cheaped out and bought the cheapest trains, which were PTC's. Unfortunately, those trains are too heavy and the structure was not designed to handle their weight. As a result, the trains were shortened from 7 cars to 5 cars, are not allowed to duel on the track, and (I've heard differing reasons for this one though) the coaster went from running two trains per side to one (the other reason I heard for that change was a distracted ride op causing a collision in the station). Even with these changes, the trains are still too heavy. As a result, they accelerated the coaster's wear, contributing to it becoming even more rough and expensive to maintain, while completely annihilating its throughput.
but for La Ronde's biggest mistake ever, this one doesn't count for Six Flags as this came before they took over the park, was in regards to their dolphins. La Ronde used to have dolphins. Another detail about La Ronde is that its blue collar workers are unionized (this is still true to this day). One day, Montreal's blue collar union went on strike, and La Ronde's employees went with it. During that span of time, the dolphins were left without their handlers, and they refused to eat from anyone else. As a result, they starved to death. Montreal has since received a lifetime ban on owning dolphins ever again.
How about all the advertisements throughout the parks? It made it feel like those cheap diners that plaster the tables with photos of real estate agents and car salesmen.
For some reason they decided to make there first ever vr coaster dare devil dive. That ride has terrible capacity for no reason even without vr. They should have added vr to blue hawk. It would have been torcher but better
i got 7 bucks from that class action lawsuit lmao
I went in the SF Great Adventure Haunted House when I was like 10.
The finger scan makes sense if you can make it work because it's fast and secure, which is why Disney uses it, but when it doesn't work it simply is a disaster. Six Flags doesn't have that type of money to justify it.
I think one mistake especially at Magic Mountain was their removal of everything but roller coasters. They went on a tear removing the train, shows, monorail, Sky Ride, and many others. Another one is they didn't make MM a resort, I think that was an opportunity missed. I think the ride rotation program could have worked if they put more thought into it. I think what they should have done is take flat part of the parks involved and poured footers in a predetermined size, like a grid in roller coaster tycoon. Then have manufactures build within those guidelines, so they could have just bolted and unbolted rides. Similar to Schwarzkopf traveling coasters but of course being more semi permanent. You mentioned Goliath, it might just be me but Premier seems to never be able to rehab a coaster. They messed that one up, Texas Tornado, and the NYNY coaster. Premier makes good rides ground up but I wouldn't call them for a rehab.
9:30 I ended up being part of the settlement for great America. $41.08 spread over 5 years 😂, the first check I received was for $2.58
That's awesome. I was part of a class action suit as a Six Flags employee in the mid/late-2000s and I got something like 2 grand
Imagine how much better of an experience Magic Mountain would be if Six Flags poured millions into the park instead of buying parks they didn't need.
Premier Parks is the one for you to take the issue up with....their the guilty ones.
Great video! And LOL at the start when you say "These are Six Flags biggest mistakes" and zoom in on Six Flags Magic Mountain. As if the entire park is one giant mistake. It was nice to see Colossus mentioned. It's sad how the coaster was reprofiled back in the day. After El Toro, I always wanted Intamin to come in and reprofile it back to something with airtime. The Gravity Group could have done a good job too. Revolution getting over-the-shoulder restraints was a mistake too. But I don't believe it was for the reason given. That's the first time I've ever heard the bit about people standing up. From my understanding, there was a change in California regulation where rides needed a secondary restraint. Either over-the-shoulder restraints or a seatbelt. Six Flags went with over-the-shoulder for Revolution. And Knott's did seatbelts for Montezooma's Revenge. Insurance purposes could have also played a role. Anyway, once the change was made, Six Flags couldn't just simply remove the restraints and give the coaster seatbelts. The workaround was getting new trains built off the spec of the originals. Which takes me to VR... which I wasn't a fan of. However, if it wasn't for VR, I don't think the changes would have come to Revolution. They needed to be able to have a return on investment for the new trains and paint. Being able to market it as a new ride was the answer.
3:59 KEKW
13:27 High-capacity? Debatable. Small footprint? Hardly. More thrilling than a lot of coasters? I mean, depends on what you compare it to (definitely not a very high bar set for many though..) And their long line isn't due to their poor capacity? I mean, when the ride only loads 32(?) every 5 minutes or something, that's also hardly the case..
As a born Houstonian I agree with most of the Astrosworld remarks. Besides all the miniscule minutiae thats been mentioned such as parking ,corporate strugling etc. The fact of the matter is its the 4th most populated city in the United States with a climate similar to South Florida , yet nothing theme park wise? On a postive note was at Fiesta Texas this weekend and I would add food options to that list. Even though its stil pretty overpriced we had gumbo and etouffee for the mardi gras party both were 9 bux a piece and pretty tasty.
Six flags biggest mistake is being broke
it still would have been so weird if the Koch Family would have kept Kentucky Kingdom
0:01 Disney is NOT perfect. They have made a ton of mistakes with their theme parks. Just go watch season 2 of Defunctland and you'll see what I mean.
Airtime Thrills, I recently watched a TH-cam video that ACN did and looks to be a month ago. It's concerning Demolition of Golden Bear Theatre for a Giga Coaster.
I'd Love for a Giga, like a Bigger/TALLER version of RAGING BULL from SFGA to come to Magic Mountain, but if that's a strong possibility, I was hoping Samurai Summit can be spared and that the Coaster could be built along the most SW Border from De ja vus Location stretching to as far as Viper instead.
As it stands, Magic Mountain has had a hard enough time as it is running their Biggest Coasters, let Alone wanting to add another.
With SIX Flags not seeming to do so well, and especially during COVID the last few years, is a GIGA even Affordable❓️🤔
Would SIX Flags have been better off Investing in buying more property next to Roaring Rapids, several years ago, rather than building X2 which at the Time was X, Goliath, Scream and so forth❓️🤔
I'm not a believer that Samurai Summit needs a GIGA, and I'm curious why SIX FLAGS didn't go after more Real Estate in the Mid 90's when the Economy was booming❓️🤔
As for myself, I Enjoy X2 very much as well as GOLIATH and other rides, but I'm just curious about the Land on the other side of Roaring Rapids, because a GIGA would fit in much better there than Samurai Summit.
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I kept my membership for the simple reason I want the perks...so I keep it coming out of my bank account for that reason.
I'm planning on visiting sfmm this year but with their horrendous operations, I'm thinking of holding off
It is stupid fir the membership thing because my family has Diamond elite membership and when I tried to go to six flags great America they said “The pass has been canceled” they said that my parents haven’t been paying the bills for the pass to keep it good and not to get it canceled but it got canceled anyway and my parents have been OAYING THE BILLS FOR THE MEMBERSHIP AND SUX FLAGS WAS BEING STUPID
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The ROAR at six flags discovery kingdom didn't need an RMC treatment and it was the only wooden coaster at SFDK. It was the first GCI to use Millennium flyer trains. SFDK could've just added a ground up RMC. It would be awesome if the trains on ROAR at SFA would be replaced with millennium flyer trains. Don't get me wrong GCI woodies cannot be RMCed. Wildcat at Hersheypark could've had a whole titan track upgrade and it was GCI's first coaster in 1996. Why would SFSL add virtual reality on terrible painful coaster the Ninja?
You forgot La Ronde:
- Removed Cobra and didn't replaced it
- Removed La Pitoune and didn't replaced it
- Removed Super Manège and didn't replaced it
- Minirail, Spirale and one Caroussel are leaving in 2023
- Added a Haunted Mansion (Maison Rouge) open year round... only for the first year. It's now open only on Halloween
- And many, many more...
Oh, and sending Green Lantern to La Ronde... Which bring the only good decision: to scrap this plan. They did bring a lot new rides/coaster in the first years, but for the last couple of years, it's been trash.
Deciding to make a bigger version of a coaster that already breaks down all the time. Good job SFGADV, you get more people to spend money on food than whom actually gets to ride the biggest roller coaster which is ridicioulously overrated tbh lol. I'd rather have gotten a Mr. Freeze Reverse Blast or a spaghetti bowl premiere (and yes ik we had chiller what a mess). And THANKYOU they absolutely messed up with Twisted Collosus, when you have to basically ride the same coaster twice you should know you ruined a classic. Could've at least waited and saved up to do the full layout so it was actually long and dueling. I saw a video done with also leaving one side relatively the same and one side RMCed to the max and even that would've been a far better idea. Meanwhile they just up and demolish the non-always broken wooden coaster at GADV and don't even get a replacement like call GCI already gg. The smash bros screen "FAILURE" should be pasted over many of these bad decisions overall, let alone how dumb some of them are (like Kingda Ka, Viper too like they literally bought 1/2 a coaster off a non-ready facility wtf).
I'm not surprised you forgot about Great Escape, seems like Six Flags has also. LOL.
But ill do Great Escape: installing Nightmare and Alpine Bobsled: Nightmare was a mistake because they knew the capacity issues with the coaster and they made it even worse by the brakes being unable to stop 4 guests so it became 2 guests per train and only 1 train on block at a time. It was certainly a nightmare.
BOBSLED: GE is plagued by its annoying neighbors behind Comet. To install a loud thunderous coaster directly next to the water park which is directly next to the neighborhoods that seem to complain every chance they get was just unfathomable. There were so many better options than Bobsled.
The paths: GE has been in the habit of creating bottlenecks lately. First was installing the Alpine Freefall slides then also Pandemonium/Flying Scooters created such a bottleneck at a very popular spot in the park where you have guests coming/going from Comet/Hurricane Harbor.
This leads me to a mistake from even earlier: Why did they make the path for Comet directly in the middle of the water park? They could have used the path where the picnic facilities are or made the water park connected where Black Cobra is.
LAST MISTAKE: Why remove the bucket tipping attraction to save the 3 kiddie slides when you completely removed a path to install waterslides next to Comet. If there were issues with the bucket attraction it should have been removed when they wanted to install the new slides.
Love this video, only wish you did all the parks, not just the big guys.
RIP Geauga Lake 😢
I think having Daniel Snyder in charge was a mistake, just like his ownership of the Commanders.
Meanwhile, I don't understand why Six Flags St. Louis still has Ninja. Does anyone like this ride? Also, Silver Dollar City has raised the bar so high for the state's rollercoasters so why wouldn't you want to build a ride on the level of Outlaw Run or Time Traveler?
it kinda sucks sitting in hours of LA traffic to get to Magic Mountain only to find 4-5 major coasters closed
Yeah this winter has been a disaster with major closed rides. Not sure what happened there during HITP
@@AirtimeThrills twisted colossus was down on Saturday, really disappointed they don’t have a website tab like knotts. I coulda saved a bunch of gas money… and time.
@@ducksfan_1149 Do you have a Six Flags app on your phone?
It usually tells you which rides are open as opposed to the ones that are not.
@@seanlewis1148 the app only shows closed rides during operating hours, I have to leave hours before park opening to get there on time and by that point it’s just an awful game of chance bc six flag’s consistently has many coasters closed. It’s like, what’s the point of having 20 coasters if you only ever operate 15 of them
Another huge mistake regarding their acquisition of Walibi in the Netherlands, and seemingly Europe more broadly: they wrongly assumed that their "coasters in a parking lot" approach would appeal to people in Europe as much as it would to those in the US, and massively expanded their coaster line-up without any real attempt at themeing. They couldn't have been more wrong. Turns out that over here, you actually have to compete with the already-existent level of themeing in the other (plentiful) parks, or else you'll end up with a moderately-performing park instead of a cash cow that pays back its acquisition cost...
Huge mistake was not purchasing the land around SFMM with the park. It was all owned by Newhall Land and Farming Company. They could have gotten it cheap & could of developed it or sold some of it off for a ridiculous prices, land would fetch over 1M per acre in that area.
Biggest Six Flags mistake anyone can make? Stepping foot inside of Six Flags America! 😂
I kid, of course. It’s just very easy to make fun of that park for being sketchy AF.
I WISH my home park would get a giga discovery, but we already have a mondial revolution - we can't count on hurricanes or tornadoes and it won't burn down because it's made of metal...asteroid strike maybe? Lol
Green lantern whould have worked if they installed new brakes i believe (probably works better for the small versions such as Kirnu) which is sad since Intamin Zacspins are criminally underrated, i have one at my home park and its my favorite coaster ever
Another big mistake was taking away monthly payments for the meal passes. Most people can't afford the $100 or $150 payment at once. They would sell more of the $150 two meal passes if they added the snack to it.
You know I like six flags because they take risks. They make a lot of mistakes but look we have rmc because of six flags. When they are good they are really good like intamin lol
Ruining their season pass as number 1 ?
To make a move for families, copy holiday world. I won't spend money at six flags. I only go when it's free as a gift
Biggest mistake is coming to Montreal, I Live Here.. its a run down park, half the rides and restaurant mostly close. please avoid..
Sixflags has it's problems but folks love to talk bad about sixflags when we know what they are. But all these other companies y'all put on a high horse but they have problems too. Sixflags is for us the people. And I love sixflags for what they are
Viper was TRASH. I rode it one time and it slammed my head around so much I had no idea where I was on the track and couldn’t wait for it to be over. Glad they got rid of it and added a world class coaster in its place. Though it was sad they removed Rolling Thunder as well to accommodate it.