Shockwave Retrospective - The Most Logical Decepticon!

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  • One of the Decepticons most logical and powerful, the one eyed Shockwave has been in many Transformers series since the beginning. Many want to know what happened to the G1 cartoon character. Here we explore all of that!
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  • @_Muzolf
    @_Muzolf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    Small correction, he was the only senator who was not actually corrupt in the Cybertronian senate, he could also not shut up about the reality of the coming energon shortage, and that was exactly the reason why he became a subject of shadowplay, which was a direct cause of him joining the decepticons.

    • @thesymbiotenation.4552
      @thesymbiotenation.4552 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Now that's logical

    • @04killer07
      @04killer07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So basically thanos in a way

    • @Hektols
      @Hektols 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The corrupt senator was Ratbat, who was punished by the Decepticons losing his humanoid form and forced to join them as one of Soundwave's cassettes.

    • @_Muzolf
      @_Muzolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Hektols Well yes, but i don`t think referring to Ratbat as "the corrupt senator" is the best way to put it, because most cybertronian senators were rather corrupt. (or at least assholes who did not give a shit about the rest of the population)

    • @beastmaster0934
      @beastmaster0934 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hektols
      All of them were (Except Shockwave, until they preformed Shadowplay and Impurata on him, which is how he got his trademark cyclops eye.)

  • @KJ-tz7vc
    @KJ-tz7vc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    The fact that the movie didn't depict Shockwave's death, and that he got a later G1 toy (as an Action Master) is enough for me to justify his survival.

    • @Hollyjollytroll
      @Hollyjollytroll 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Actually, a lot of the earlier characters that died got Action Master toys.

  • @themadmattster9647
    @themadmattster9647 6 ปีที่แล้ว +467

    Dude, that's a killer idea for a comic "Shockwave hiding on Cybertron to help Galvatron become Megatron again"

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      That would be awesome right? Back in the day I penned a fan-fic that continued after the Rebirth where Shockwave returned.

    • @halalvatron9917
      @halalvatron9917 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I always prefered Galvatron but I always liked IDW's take on them being different people if I had a fanfic it could go Galvatron is created by Unicron to replace Megatron for his failure to destroy the matrix and the prime, he's much stronger than Megatron and Optimus but Galvatron's problem is he is derranged and cares little for the decepticon cause or those under his command so Shockwave and Soundwave would reconstruct Megatron a new body (if he was severely damaged in battle) or upgrade him and have him and Optimus team up to get rid of the greater threat to both the Autobots and Decepticons. Or if it continued for a bit further he could've killed Optimus but not destroyed the matrix and that's where Rodimus comes in and eventually in a final battle Rodimus and Megatron team up to end Unicron and Galvatron, they succeed but Megatron sacrafices himself to do it, ending the war

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I abhor IDW's non Megatron Galvatron. I'm sorry. The original intent of the character is that he IS Megatron even if he acts differently.

    • @EclipseWarlord
      @EclipseWarlord 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      RodimusPrimal
      A crazy, processor-damaged version of Megatron is still Megatron.

    • @halalvatron9917
      @halalvatron9917 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      RodimusPrimal
      I'm a fan of the concept of them being 2 different characters however some of what IDW did with Galvatron I don't like his origin with Arcee I hated, but I would still have several links between them maybe not being directly said but Galvatron could be like Serpentor in a sense that Galvatron is every previous decepticon leader such as Megatron, The Fallen, Trannis, Deathsaurus and maybe even Unicron himself put in to one perfect leader and that would explain why he is mentally unstable because of the multiple minds being inside his head and since Megatron is still around Galvatron they would be noticeably alike.

  • @robbymanable
    @robbymanable 5 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Discontinuing the original Shockwave toy was most illogical

    • @spookshankaman1038
      @spookshankaman1038 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Soundwave:most inferior

    • @04killer07
      @04killer07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You opinion is most logical

    • @04killer07
      @04killer07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You opinion is most logical

  • @keegancolby136
    @keegancolby136 5 ปีที่แล้ว +383

    Shockwave and Soundwave, two of the best 'Cons.

    • @eur0be4t3r
      @eur0be4t3r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Keegan Colby YEAH just ask Diamondbolt

    • @Green24152
      @Green24152 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Imagine if, for NO REASON, Hasbro made toys of them that could combine.

    • @lgww1940
      @lgww1940 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keegan Colby no doubt

    • @joeysopinion4463
      @joeysopinion4463 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @gurt1973
      @gurt1973 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unknown Legend YES

  • @willtheshyguy
    @willtheshyguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I have always viewed Shockwave as one of the most terrifying decepticons. Mainly due to the fact that he only views things logically and will betray Megatron if it serves Cybertron to rise and that he views the autobots as nothing more than a puny rebellion that he will uses as lab rats. Whether you are his ally or his foe you are just a variable to him. The fact that he can look so emotionless as he blasts anyone just for the sake of "it is only logical that you die. For Cybertron to live." To me makes him one of the most terrifying foes the autobots will face. That is why to me personally he died in the original movie, a fitting end, he spent his entire life to bring the best out of Cybertron, to bring it to it's peak through logic, only to see his work crumble around him by something entirely illogical, chaos in carnet.

    • @UToobUsername01
      @UToobUsername01 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only thing really stopping him is people who don't act based on logic. That's why characters like Prowl (also logical) can't realy crack every case. They assume people act based only on logic alone. We don't. Sometimes people experience feelings which guide their action and that is why autists like Shockwave can't really be leaders imo. They fail to understand the motivations of other people to be able to predict what they will do. When something isn't logical, it causes them to faulter because they don't understand other people properly. This is today referred to as "emotional intelligence" (yes I know it's a dumb term and I myself don't use it) and important for charismatic people who are leaders of large groups to control their followers. (politicians)
      Without any charisma nobody is going to follow you. That is why Megatron is superior because he has the logic too, but understand why Autobots fight to protect fleshlings out of heroic virtue. Shockwave probably just sees it as autobots wanting energon from humans to use against decepticons which is NOT true. (that is the bonus for helping other people - the government donates it to them for saving human lives) The truth is Optimus Prime actually loves other living beings and that is enough reason to sacrifice yourself to protect others. (knights virtues) Megatron knows that and often uses it to his advantage in hostage situations. But shockwave if he was leader would fail to see the reason to use human fleshling people that are worthless to him as part of a plan to control Optimus Prime.
      So although Shockwave can be quite scary, he is not sociopathic the way Megatron is to be able to manipulate people's emotions like politicians and get whole groups of people on his side while understand the weakness of heroic and virtuous people who act like knights that must follow a code. This is why the Joker in the Dark Knight was so interesting because he took advantage of Batman's "no killing" rule to piss him off so much. lol (knights have codes you see?) By understanding emotions and others you can win battles with less losses. Logical people who don't understand other people's motivations have a smaller playbook of plans to use. They will just look at everything as math. It's not how the world works. We have spiritual values, beliefs, and emotions and this is what seperates us from machines which just see the world a objects around us. It can be used to empower people (such as using anger to fight harder) or as a weakness (optimus prime sacrificing his own men to protect humans or going easy on megatron after he could have captured or killed him to end the war faster).
      Shockwave being ONLY logical is less capable as Megatron since Megatron has more "emotional intelligence" which lets him use political tactics to build strong army that looks up to powerful and charismatic leaders who also can instill fear to stop bullies from defying them. (bullies are cowards that only target people weaker than them) Strong leaders can police the local bully of the area and swoop in as a "hero" to bring order. You don't have this unless you are good at fighting and combat which Megatron is clearly superior at compared to all the decepticons around him. (he got good from fighting in gladiatorial arenas under quintesson rulers prior to the war)
      Without the local thugs have genuine fear/respect of the leader, you don't have order. Without order, you don't have stability. Without stability you get in-fighting and that only weakens the army and gives enemy an opportunity to take advantage of the chaos. So strength, charisma and intelligence (both emotional and war tactics) are needed as well as respect (Megatron is clearly stronger than all the other decepticons save for Devastor who is still not highly-skilled when combined due to bad co-ordination - but after megatron died in the 1986 movie Devastator quickly came in to declare himself the most worthy replacement due to low ranking and low intelligence decepticons favouring strength and brute power over other qualities)
      Shockwave if he ever fought Megatron wouldn't be as good at actual fighting since he is more of a scientist type. Similar to Tony Stark being good with tech but not being as skilled as Captain America in combat since Captain America is a soldier with warrior mindset. Shockwave may also lack power to kill megatron. Without power you can't beat someone in a fight only survive against them. For example you never see any car robot take on the dinobots in a one vs one duel accept for Optimus Prime who fights them in the cartoon. (Optimus Prime has high strength to actually beat a dinobot in one vs one fight) The dinobots only respect people who are stronger than them or at least on par with them. If Optimus Prime was weak the autobots may not have them as allies in battles since they respect only strong warriors. Shockwave being too nerdy to kill Megatron, means nobody in the ranks of the decepticons would listen to his orders unless they came from Megatron himself. Being weaker puts you lower in the pecking order in military since you don't have the power to pull off daring mission yourself. Tough guys don't take shit from nerds even if they are right. It's about respect. "Beat me in a fight then I will obey" is how many decepticons probably think. That is how Megatron got control of them probably because they tried to kill him and lost the fight and the proof of his power is in how he can beat you in combat. This is why Starscream always addresses him as "Mighty Megatron" to stroke his ego so he has his guard down. He knows megatron prides himself on being the best pure warrior in the group. If you want respect: beat megatron in one vs one then you get to replace him as leader.

  • @lazarus30001
    @lazarus30001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +231

    I don't believe Shockwave died, Cybertron didn't take that much damage overall during Unicron's attack.

    • @williamt.sherman9841
      @williamt.sherman9841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      personally I would like to think he was crushed by Unicron. It would even up the death count between autobots and decepticons a little.

    • @skullgrinsreviews6829
      @skullgrinsreviews6829 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I like the idea that Unicron crushed the tower but he survived, maybe presumed dead wen’t underground? I mean he wasn’t present on char. Maybe, he chose to fully follow logic and pursue a more secretive agenda.

    • @williamt.sherman9841
      @williamt.sherman9841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@skullgrinsreviews6829 I prefer that he died there. We need a greater Decpeticon body count.

    • @eastcoastshine2009
      @eastcoastshine2009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You don’t have to believe it ....in fact you should believe whatever makes you sleep well but reality is Shockwave was killed towards the end of the 1986 film by Unicron hand. It’s in the freakin movie script FFS

    • @XiahouJoe
      @XiahouJoe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@eastcoastshine2009 it was cut, therefore isn't canon. www.google.com/search?safe=active&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS819US819&ei=Tfd6XJG9Aqi_jwTPkLrgAQ&q=is+something+cut+from+script+non+canon&oq=is+something+cut+from+script+non+canon&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i160.8561.13280..13536...0.0..0.143.4114.12j26......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0j0i131j0i67j0i3j0i22i30j33i22i29i30j33i299.6Bf_XRhJ9BM so many references to this. The irony of using the word reality...

  • @Speedyeep
    @Speedyeep 5 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Transformers prime shockwave was genuinely really well done, a cold hearted scientist believing in logic, rarely felt the need to rush anything, and powerful, with an excellent voice

  • @clarity2199
    @clarity2199 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Wow, I like that concept.....Shockwave hiding out in hopes to revert the insane Galvatron back to Megatron. I would love to see that!

  • @baron_von_brunk
    @baron_von_brunk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    Shockwave 2020 MGMA: Make Galvatron Megatron Again.

  • @yh132
    @yh132 6 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    This video is only logical

  • @dutch5945
    @dutch5945 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Shockwave was a badass in the marvel comics

  • @ocinnico2608
    @ocinnico2608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    "He follows logic, as if he was Spock"
    Shockwave and the Vulcan agree that this is logical

  • @notsoalex
    @notsoalex 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Another great video!
    I say he didn't die in G1, he just disappeared like many other characters.

  • @DCMarvel2009
    @DCMarvel2009 6 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Making him an Onyx Prime impostor totally undid all of his character development...

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I agree.

    • @yh132
      @yh132 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah I hate it

    • @halalvatron9917
      @halalvatron9917 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Same here it was basically just I've realized what I've done wrong, but fuck it I like being a cunt

    • @meep1998
      @meep1998 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Didn't expect to find another biotuber here, and I agree, they ruined his character

    • @disneyboy3030
      @disneyboy3030 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Perhaps that maybe they were trying to make him like his Transtech counterpart morally ambiguous. Lets find one of the writers and find out.

  • @legoawcstopmotioner9435
    @legoawcstopmotioner9435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:33 Aww. Shockwave has a son. (Gun in his right hand.)

  • @ninjadanny628
    @ninjadanny628 6 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    The remaking of this episode was..... Logical.

  • @octipuscrime
    @octipuscrime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Gets distracted by parachutes". I shouldn't have laughed, I'm sorry.

  • @absolutezero7174
    @absolutezero7174 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I too also want to be believe Shockwave is alive and well helping restoring Galvatron back to Megatron. I think Shockwave will look good if he has a female decepticon companion such as Slip Stream

  • @richaquilastokes
    @richaquilastokes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Shockwave getting merc'd by Death's Head is one of the nastiest things I saw in comics as a kid. Trying to hold his innards in and making weird incoherent noises. Awesome and haunting at the same time!

  • @captainfantastic9158
    @captainfantastic9158 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Thing about Shockwave which I always hated was, in both the U.S. and the U.K. comics, he always, ALWAYS got the best of Megatron. Every time he plotted against him, he got his way. Heck, he wound up using the Predacons against Megatron TWICE!! (On both sides of the Atlantic!) I suppose that's a testament to his cunning and, indeed, logic, but, hey, this is freaking MEGATRON we're talkin' about. Megatron OWNS the Decepticons, each and every one of 'em, from chassis to spark. That's why I loved in issue 9 of the Dreamwave comic, Megs FINALLY put one-eye in his place! In issue 10's letter column, even the editors said it was an overdue, well-deserved smackdown! And I still lament Dreamwave's demise because we never got to witness the fruits of Megatron's plans for Shockwave (and Starscream) firmly under his thumb module. Ah, well. That's what fanfictions are for!

  • @frankmarzig1972
    @frankmarzig1972 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    i had the original shockwave toy from Radio Shack. it was a good toy but way out of scale. but scale didnt matter back then either, lol

    • @WarReport.
      @WarReport. 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love how he starts off as a megatron rip off

    • @dja-troit6608
      @dja-troit6608 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂... I thought I was the only one that bought that cheap radio shack shockwave.... I totally forgot all about it until the narrator mentioned it in this video.... unfortunately I was late buying transformers and I was living in a small town where the toys were scarce...we didn't get a toys r us until after I graduated which of course I was done with toys.....but I do remember buying a real Shockwave about a year after that cheap radio shack one got busted up

  • @nickstuetelberg1164
    @nickstuetelberg1164 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I like to think that Shockwave survived The Movie (1986). And just didn't appear in 3rd season of G1 Transformers.

  • @rustkarl
    @rustkarl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I started with Prime, yeah I’m a latecomer so that will always be the definitive version of Shockwave to me.
    I also find it has the best combination of his varying portrayals nicely.

    • @saagabragi6938
      @saagabragi6938 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also started with Tfp, and i loved Shockwave from his first scene. He shoukd've showed up more.
      Well, technically i started with Armada, but i was _very_ little back then and i _still_ haven't seen all the episodes. I used to have toys of Armada Megatron and somebody else, but my brother broke them and mom took them and threw them away by force because she had something against fixing things.

  • @rickjames2.0
    @rickjames2.0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Shockwave has always been one of the best to me. He looks sounds and is cool as hell

  • @she-venom9842
    @she-venom9842 6 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Hey you got new sub love your video! Shockwave is one of my favorite Decpeticon

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks! This was a worthwhile update to the original version.

    • @nicholasdickens2801
      @nicholasdickens2801 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shockwave is one of mine too, along with Megatron. I just wished as a child that they were both a similar size.

    • @thesymbiotenation.4552
      @thesymbiotenation.4552 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shockwave: It's only Logical that I'm your favorite.

    • @darliskawhitaker1979
      @darliskawhitaker1979 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mines Too

  • @justinthomas7222
    @justinthomas7222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The live action movies leave a sore spot for EVERYone.

  • @battlebroz562
    @battlebroz562 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    G1 is, and always will be, the best wave of transformers

    • @joshuaromerogonzalez945
      @joshuaromerogonzalez945 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If we're talking about the original Marvel Comics one, then yeah

    • @mwizachihana9551
      @mwizachihana9551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also "Transformers Prime" version.

    • @AngelMartinez-tx5ll
      @AngelMartinez-tx5ll ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@mwizachihana9551 and the Fall Of Cybertron one.

  • @mcpics4448
    @mcpics4448 6 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    In retrospective shockwave is always an awesome addition for any transformers media expect the movie 😒😒😒

    • @crustypaladin
      @crustypaladin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I know right, it was so dissapointing

    • @EclipseWarlord
      @EclipseWarlord 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I choose to think of the movie version as Shockblasted the Drillbeast Tamer.

    • @deepfry4173
      @deepfry4173 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. Dotm shockwave was hyped up and then did literally nothing except be disappointing.

    • @deepfry4173
      @deepfry4173 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Straight Busta and then I’m pretty sure that shot missed.

    • @filthygaming265
      @filthygaming265 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deepfry4173 Only good thing about DoTM Shockwave is that he had one of the best toys in the entire dotm line.

  • @diegos7337
    @diegos7337 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My Favorite Decepticon By Far!!! Defeated Megatron twice, the only decepticon who made megatron call him "Commander", Defeated Optimus, Scorpnok, and the Dinobots, three OMEGA Units (Omega Supreme sized Bots) with one blast. Excelent military strategist and scientist, and also became a Prime!
    It is good to remember he was the Military commander of the decepticons and Megatron True second in command of the decepticons. Starscream tried to usurp Megatron´s place because Shockwave wasn´t there... In Dreamwave´s "War Within" after Sarscream thought he had killed Megatron after blowing the place where he was... He tells Shockwave he is the Leader now... But Shockwave makes Starscream undestand he will return after he finishes the battle on Iacon to take leadership, and starscream was clearly afraid of this...
    And I personaly think Shockwave didn´t die on G1.

  • @yourhighness927
    @yourhighness927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Shockwave surviving and killing onyx prime and becoming him totally ruined his character in the comics the dark Cybertron ending for him was good enough

  • @ThatBrownBat777
    @ThatBrownBat777 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I too have always had "head-cannon" that Shockwave was in hiding, trying to find a way to convert Galvatron back to Megatron...However, in my story, when the conversion process commenced, something went wrong and Megs & Galvs became 2 separate entities, dividing the Decepticon factions (because they hated each other)...
    On a side note, why wasn't the Diaclone gun, 'Browning' ever used in any of the TF series? All the guns could be combiners: Megatron, Galvatron(if used as a separate entity), Browning, Sixshot, and Shockwave, except they wouldn't turn into a giant robot, but a huge cannon (like the booms on the SDF-1)..but they would all hate each other, therefore making it difficult to utilize that firepower.

  • @nicholasdickens2801
    @nicholasdickens2801 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ah another updated “Revisit” I love it. Thank you!

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I actually did 5 of them. Who Became Cyclonus, Skyfire/Jetfire, Shockwave, Dion, and Ultra Magnus. Glad you enjoy them.

  • @dannyvestal299
    @dannyvestal299 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Yeah Roddy, I tend to believe that our one eyed G1 friend is still around. There's a reason why that script did not make it to the movie! Great retrospective bro! Hope your move is going smooth. Till all r one!!

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Still getting the house ready for the big move. It's stressful trying to get it all done in addition to working on these videos. Thanks for the support.

    • @dannyvestal299
      @dannyvestal299 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Man hang in there, know exactly what your going through, doing it now as well..My mom died, left us her house, Well it's lots easier to do some things before you move in, floors,painting,general remodeling etc. Know you'renot alone..we are about 2 months out..Good luck!

    • @EuReeka23
      @EuReeka23 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Danny Vestal very sorry for your loss! :( Hope your move & remodel stays smooth too!

    • @nicholasdickens2801
      @nicholasdickens2801 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RodimusPrimal Your dedication to us TF junkies is very much appreciated.

  • @shariqhasan6220
    @shariqhasan6220 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I always wondered why Soundwave and Shockwave are so loyal to Megatron?

    • @shawndashno6022
      @shawndashno6022 ปีที่แล้ว

      It actually has to do with the beginning of the war. Megatron wanted to stop the caste system. When cybertronian's are brought online, their given a job for life. Even if it's a garbage job and your better suited for something else, too bad, your a digger. Megatron wanted to end this, so he became a gladiator, and a damn good one. Eventually he had the minds of the people, especially the lower classes, and created the Deceptions to rise up and fight the wealthy and lazy classes they were toiling away for. And you guessed it, the higher caste were mostly the Autobots, as they dubbed themselves when the war began. Well needless to say, the deceptions were winning the war, forcing the Autobots off world, but to answer your question completely, Megatron ALWAYS, put Cybertron itself ahead of everything, at first anyway. And while he still does, his aspirations became tyrannical after a time, but by then they were already so loyal to Megatron that it would take a complete betrayal of their beliefs to change them, but Megatron truly liked both Soundwave and Shockwave as they were super loyal, super useful and super dependable. Hope this (short) explanation helps. I recommend checking out the IDW comics, and other media, TF Prime is also good for the Aligned continuity, which is the best storyline imo, and alot of TF fans. Have fun, it's a rabbit hole lol, but an awesome ride.

  • @staubachcowboy12
    @staubachcowboy12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love shockwave....but going by the original script and his official absence from season 3 of G 1 transformers.....I think he died when unicron attacked cybertron.....it can theoretically be retconned....but I think he died....of screen....at the end of the movie.....

  • @Abitharssh
    @Abitharssh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Micheal Bays live action movies didn't portray the original characters correctly

    • @mwizachihana9551
      @mwizachihana9551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those movies should be tossed to the scrap-heap

    • @solbadguy9025
      @solbadguy9025 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He was going to be the original villain in the movie. But was later dropped in favor of the twist villain Sentinel Prime.

    • @amitabhkumar6718
      @amitabhkumar6718 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes☹

  • @darrojo1973
    @darrojo1973 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I do believe that Shockwave fate was that like in Transformers Prime where he escaped in a escape shuttle or pod until time is right for his return back to Cybertron.

  • @negativeindustrial
    @negativeindustrial 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shockwave should have been portrayed as Megatron’s brother given his very similar gun mode. In fact, Megatron should have had an identical gun mode before his reformat on Earth.

  • @dennisboekema2065
    @dennisboekema2065 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Loved the part when Shockwave was actually used as a gun by Bruticus...powerfull combination

  • @GhostFox728
    @GhostFox728 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Okay let's just pause for a sec @0:10 like just how badass Optimus was back then! Unpause

  • @superginrai8036
    @superginrai8036 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Since Shockwave was never seen definitively dying on screen in _Transformers: The Movie,_ I assume he survived Unicron’s attack. However, I prefer his characterization in the Marvel Comics as a cold, calculating and powerful contender for Megatron’s role as Decepticon leader.

  • @javiersantanaaviles5885
    @javiersantanaaviles5885 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    No I trully believe Shockwave die by the hand of Unicron, theres no way he wouldn´t give everything to defend Cybertron to the very end

    • @shockwavethewarlock
      @shockwavethewarlock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But he did he literally told all the decepticons on cybertron to attack unicron in the movie. And may i remind you that shockwave is the guardian of cybertron

  • @GregLionProductions
    @GregLionProductions 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Till all are one!

  • @TheSmart-CasualGamer
    @TheSmart-CasualGamer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The only way he could be more "Evil Spock" is of he had a beard.
    (Yes I know Rodimus Unicronus has that beard, but it makes sense here too.)

  • @marioobsessed03
    @marioobsessed03 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice remaster :)
    Does the original video still exist though?

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does. It's currently unlisted but it's there.

  • @HouseholdWheel
    @HouseholdWheel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    how...
    analytical? is that the word?

  • @AE-jo2fy
    @AE-jo2fy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like that his discriptions of all the other versions of the character are faily tame but he goes savage on the lame bayformer one.

  • @javiersantanaaviles5885
    @javiersantanaaviles5885 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Honestly after the stupid twist IDW played with Shockwave in their comics, making him the damn Onyx Prime, the damn Onyx Prime who was supposed to be the greatest villain of the contuinity, Im glad they are going to reboot the IDW continuity

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      When I read it I was very much annoyed too.

    • @javiersantanaaviles5885
      @javiersantanaaviles5885 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes I mean after his redemption in Dark Cybertron why the hell IDW ruined him that way?, he had finally acepted his sins and just that, they destroy their entire story of the Primes

    • @skywarpwaver1833
      @skywarpwaver1833 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Javier Santana Avilés at least idw did a good job in other comics

    • @disneyboy3030
      @disneyboy3030 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly..... I think since he was at the beginning.... they wanted him and Bumblebee to be there at the end.... plus they made him morally ambiguous.... like in transtech... also it also kind of made Diamond Bolt's dream about him coming back and becoming a prime a reality... so i feel indifferent about it but let me know what do you think about it OK good.

    • @javiersantanaaviles5885
      @javiersantanaaviles5885 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To be honest Dark Cybertron end in aperfect way, reshaping the very Transformers mithos forever, villains redeem themselves and changes their ways, so the very fact that Shockwave became a villain just because IDW could´n make a true villain of Onyx Prime simply ruin everything, all for what Shockwave had passed mean nothing, and for what?

  • @ryankz1177
    @ryankz1177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember having a DVD of
    “The Transformers Generation One Season 2 Volume One” and The Episode: “Autobot Run” was on it, and I swear to god, I never noticed Shockwave was in that episode at all, and ever since I saw this video, I would suddenly notice him in that episode now, when I re-watched the DVD.

  • @luissevilla4597
    @luissevilla4597 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Shockwave is a cool decepticon but I love soundwave fav decepticon

  • @ArcTrooperRod-269
    @ArcTrooperRod-269 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *1. COREY BURTON*
    *2. DAVID SOBOLOV*
    *3. STEVE BLUM*

  • @jotarogaming4626
    @jotarogaming4626 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I have have a feeling you should do a collab video with Chris Mcfeely

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm more than happy to do so if he's willing.

    • @jotarogaming4626
      @jotarogaming4626 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      RodimusPrimal it would be a dream come true if it happen

    • @ninjadanny628
      @ninjadanny628 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bring all the transformers gods in one video

  • @tacoma171
    @tacoma171 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always considered Shockwave as having survived the film. Like you said it was never technically shown that he didn’t and I always chalked it up as to him being pushed to the background because of the reasons you suggested

  • @spellbinderart
    @spellbinderart 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember seeing the Astro Magnum toy in Radio Shack which would become Shock Wave later.

  • @nicholasdickens2801
    @nicholasdickens2801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always thought any Decepticon holding Megatron would just crush him up. Let’s face it, it was a huge amount of trust Megatron placed in characters like Starscream.

  • @ratbat1072
    @ratbat1072 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Its weird to me how there are 2 normal retail wreck gar toys in the prime wars trilogy but only one shockwave toy

  • @FNAFEDITS171
    @FNAFEDITS171 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome info in this! Huge Shockwave fan, thanks for this

  • @jdpragmatic8644
    @jdpragmatic8644 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I find your assessments to be...logical 👍🏻

  • @MoskHotel
    @MoskHotel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’d love to see a story where Shockwave becomes the Decepticon Leader after Megatron’s defeat from the Autobots. In his calculating logic, Shockwave would make Soundwave his second-in command. The two would become two cold, heartless machines with the goal of conquering planets, including Earth, and have the inhabitants into slaves or “the Human Decepticons”.
    It would be both awesome and logical to have it happen.

  • @lukegeekwalker2689
    @lukegeekwalker2689 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I must admit Shockwave was pretty scary in Bayverse and look really good .....I dont think Prime could have beaten him without help from those humans

  • @bartdman95
    @bartdman95 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Talking about Decepticon leaders, I really enjoyed the time when Shockwave lead the Decepticons in the MARVEL COMICS.
    I like to think, after the G1 movie, he was hiding on Cybertron. Coz with the Autobots on Cybertron, it is Logical to just hide and wait for the right time. Or he could be doing something like he did in TF Animated, where he disguises himself as a random Autobot.
    I still hope Hasbro would re-release G1 Shockwave and G1 Megatron toys. But If Hasbro can't sell Megatron coz he becomes a realistic looking gun, maybe they should sell him as a non-transforming toy locked in his robot mode. I remember in grade school, some of my classmates claimed that Megatron didn't transform, because we only had access to the cartoon and only a few people in my grade level had seen a catalog. The toys here were hard to come by back then in my area..

  • @justinpayne4734
    @justinpayne4734 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shockwave is one of my favorite Decepticon, and this video does him justice. Once again, well done! 🤖🔫💜💜💜💜

  • @934ist
    @934ist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gen 1 comics were so much edgier than the gen 1 TV series, and one of the reasons is the characterization of Shockwave in the comics. Shockwave dominated. Made me nervous as a kid reading the comics. Like holy shit he just took out Megatron like he was nothing.

  • @greyofpta5305
    @greyofpta5305 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And then Dr. Smoov made him famous again on the internets.
    Great vid sir!

  • @dan200tf6
    @dan200tf6 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of my most fav decepticons

  • @EclipseWarlord
    @EclipseWarlord 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another great video Rodimus Primal. Keep the updates going. Would love to see a mention of "Shattered Glass" versions in the videos if you can squeeze them in.

  • @Andulvar
    @Andulvar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any character who didn't appear as a new toy died. It's common knowledge.

  • @drextube3841
    @drextube3841 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Shockwave is very sly and smart. I think he managed to escape, and has been hiding somewhere secret, and coming and going onto the screen from time to time.

  • @jay-quinthunder7967
    @jay-quinthunder7967 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He was damaged and he figured the logical thing to do was conserve energy High and wait for the appropriate moment to re-emerge

  • @johnosbourn4312
    @johnosbourn4312 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think that, some how, good ol' Shocky found a way to survive Unicron's assault on Cybertron.

  • @concupiscent1
    @concupiscent1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Transformers Prime Shockwave...the BEST incarnation!

  • @murphyand
    @murphyand 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Think he was only not in future seasons after the movie because of the toy or lack of toy made available by Hasbro. Agree about Michael Bays interpretation of shockwave being poor, his lack of voice articulation as well annoyed me. We didn’t even really get to see him fight properly either.

    • @iamtheomnimonkey
      @iamtheomnimonkey 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      When they revealed Shockwave in the Bayverse the Autobots were afraid of him, but then Optimus killed him way to easily.

  • @Vincente_Guerrero
    @Vincente_Guerrero 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Michael Bay's version of Shockwave was cringeworthy

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To say the least!

    • @Vincente_Guerrero
      @Vincente_Guerrero 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RodimusPrimal It should be illegal for Michael Bay to direct transformers movies ever again. What he did with Galvatron almost looked like he was trolling the Transformers fanbase. Ppl like you and I who have been watching the franchise since the 80s

    • @CayeDaws
      @CayeDaws 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel shockblast was equally as trash

  • @nightjaw2233
    @nightjaw2233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i honestly loved the dreamwave version, for me that was the first time being introduced to the character when i was beginning to get into transformers when i was younger
    just how he did something that even (throughout the comics and books i read at the time) the leader of the decepticons AND autobots couldnt do, restore cybertron and end the war

  • @Blaster_Shock
    @Blaster_Shock 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    *Insert logic quote here*

    • @koperpac4638
      @koperpac4638 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shock Blaster no Patrick mayonnaise is not an instrument

    • @astr0man1ac29
      @astr0man1ac29 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This comment is.........Logical

  • @gravitylul171
    @gravitylul171 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like to believe that shockwave escaped headquarters but was flung off into deep space by unicron’s hand creating a huge rumble

  • @zilvertron
    @zilvertron 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are Shockwave really a Decepticon, or is he a Decepticon because they own his laboratory and equipment? Wondering cause when he was the sole survivor on cybertron, the first robot he rewoke was an Autobot according to the comics.
    If he truly believed in their cause he would have only reawaken Decepticons, and with that ended the war, permanently

  • @frankforttheorangee2produc110
    @frankforttheorangee2produc110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do a headmasters retrospective please and did they appear in any of the marvel comics?

  • @zacimusprime4865
    @zacimusprime4865 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like shockwave he’s a awesome transformers transformer character😄😄😄😄😎😎😎😎😊👍🏻!!! Well this was a little disappointing you told us all about shockwave but didn’t even say what you think about him

  • @theultrasupersaiyan233
    @theultrasupersaiyan233 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    PLEASE DO A VIDEO ABOUT THE STUNTICONS

  • @W0lverine1231
    @W0lverine1231 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:20. Shockwave was a Mazda RX-8? Cool

  • @juliana.lymond2622
    @juliana.lymond2622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I Say That Shockwave Got Crushed To Death By A Falling Tower On Cybertron Off Screen Caused By Unicron.

  • @19zach75
    @19zach75 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My ALL-time favorite Decepticon. I've always said that Shockwave should've led the Decepticons after Megatron. Galvatron should've been a rogue Decepticon with a group of his own squad of reformatted Decepticons.
    #G1 forever

  • @CapnGinyu
    @CapnGinyu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crazy. Shockwave is one of my favorite decepticons and yet I never knew that he was originally a radioshack toy.

  • @JDSMART100
    @JDSMART100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    GREAT VIDEO! keep up the great work.

  • @charleshot25
    @charleshot25 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wait so Shockwave became Onyx Prime? I didnt know that.

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep. It's a shocking twist that I really don't care for.

    • @charleshot25
      @charleshot25 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      RodimusPrimal I thought he was dead cause i just got to the combiner wars part of IDW but at least i can silence anyone who disses my favorite con by saying he's a prime now.

    • @shockwave1o137
      @shockwave1o137 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because I am a logical choice

    • @the_styler1
      @the_styler1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      no he basically killed Onyx Prime and used his remains as undercover

  • @The_Floosh
    @The_Floosh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe that both Shockwave and Reflector survived, but were removed from the show just because they weren’t on the toy shelves anymore

  • @ixadorillcasterthe3rd146
    @ixadorillcasterthe3rd146 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wish Circuit Breaker would show up more.

  • @gamersinacontainer
    @gamersinacontainer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Shockwave is awesome.

  • @ashockingwave
    @ashockingwave 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Forgot about his minor appearence in Transformers the game 2007 where he has 2 alt modes and is destroying the suburbs of tranquility

  • @_KaiTheGamer_
    @_KaiTheGamer_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thankfully live-action Shockwave was changed by the *magnum-opus* that is the first 5 minutes of Bumblebee 2018

  • @camcordernonsense5264
    @camcordernonsense5264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just once shockwave should have said to Megatron, do you want me to keep working or would you like to keep interrupting me?

  • @djstillnice5075
    @djstillnice5075 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I absolutely love your retrospect videos!!!!

  • @mechamadness
    @mechamadness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know how people think the WfC and FoC games are part of the aligned continuity. I mean in FoC Bumblebee dies, and in Prime, he's alive. Explain that!

  • @ljsdcmarvelcollections4152
    @ljsdcmarvelcollections4152 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    shock wave is still alive and hiding

  • @barbw1974
    @barbw1974 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    personally, movie shockwave isn't terrible. Since he didn't have anything close to a personality you can't judge him on that (unless you count the comics where he's awesome) and his design is very accurate, especially for Bay designs.

  • @fishpop
    @fishpop 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Prime Shockwave was dope as hell! Sobolov did an excellent job.

  • @lukech0239
    @lukech0239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I personally do not like Shockwave as a mad scientist.I prefer the logic driven,political guardian of Cybertron.Since that gives him more personality and character depth.As a mad scientis he just seems like a computer on legs.

  • @evol111
    @evol111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shockwave was a way better toy than Megatron. I broke Megatron two days after I got him for Christmas, because his chest was chest/reciever was held in place by a single plastic pin.