I received all 3 Seekers from the original line on Christmas Eve 1984! My cousin received Prime and Jazz...the war of Grandma's house that night was legendary!
I got Skywarp at my dad’s on Christmas Eve and then my cousin and I both got the Lamborghini twins one Christmas Day from my grandparents. I think my mom got me a few of the mini-auto bots.
If you pause slowly and repeatedly during the battle of Unicron and the decepticons, some of the jets are are in other colors and when Unicron eats some of the Decepticon jets, he actually destroys 4 of them and two are in Ramjet colors, suggesting that it was an animation mistake and they were just unnamed seekers.
The seekers unicron eats were in the colors of the conehead indicating he ate them But they apeared in season 3 and 4 alive and having a prominent role in some episodes
"...Starscream resembled a hulking dorito with chicken legs and a beak-like face." That was beautiful. I think I laughed for a solid minute. Michael Bay, I gotta hand it to you, live-action Transformers with all the details and all the action was a great idea, but you had such poor, poor execution.
Better boring LEGO blocky at least he look more realistic in bot mode in bumble movie prime look very cartoony non realistic in truck mode I never saw red semi truck driving on road
I wanted a more g1 accurate shape. But I read that the reason for his odd shape was that the F-22 was a bulkier jet then the F-15 so he had to be chunkier.
14:32 "And what do you make of all this Starscream/Blitzwing thing?" **Shows Transformers Cloud Starscream, which uses Generations Blitzwing's molding** Clever Edit: That heart came mere _seconds_ after posting this comment!
I believe that Slipstream is Starscream's logical personality, how else would she come to the realization that Starscream's Armada is core aspects of his personality, or how she and the other clones betrayed Starscream by joining Megatron after seeing how easily defeated Starscream was, and how she told Megatron's army to aim for Omega Supreme's legs after seeing that they were his weak spot. Rodimus Primal, I love your videos and how you obviously tell you put so much effort into them! You are AMAZING! I too believe it was a foolish idea to call an obvious Starscream decepticon model and call it Blitzwing instead of Starscream. The reason the film director did it is because he did not want the same cast of transformers from Michael Bay's movies and instead use new transformers, but call Starscream Blitzwing really?! I hope you enjoy the film and till' all are one!
I like the theory that the female starscream is starscream's self-loathing That's why she always seems to hold this anger towards starscream and why she's so different because she intentionally made herself as different as she could from starscream by giving her self a different voice. Also, for the bumblebee movie, it actually makes sense that it's it'snot starscream because fans would be really mad if they killed star scream at the end of the movie without even a single attempt to betray Megatron 😂🤣
Michael bay's designs doesn't look like it transforms. It looks more like they took the model and disassemble it and reassemble again into a different thing with added parts to look like it's a robot.
@@novustalks7525 They’re all grey, overly detailed, always moving, and the camera’s almost always pulled way the fuck back so you can see the action. Add it all up and you get a mess of metal shards beating the crap out of another mess of metal shards. G1 can be forgiven because it was made on a shit budget to sell imported toys to ten year olds. Michael Bay has no excuse. He had all the money in Hollywood to work with and he gave us an all-spectacle, zero-substance, juvenile farce. You can get the same experience by running a blender full of scrap metal while someone tells you dick and fart jokes in a series of racist accents.
@@pyzzabox6574 Michael Bay's Transformers look what would actually happen if you split a car into 1,000 pieces the G1 Transformers don't look like they're going to transform now I say they're both kind of meh because one I can't tell the difference between the background and the other I can't tell if that's a character or a animation error
In a recent tv spot, its revealed that the seeker has been redesigned. He has a new face and a colour scheme which makes him look more like starscream.
"...resembles a hulking Dorito with chicken legs and a beak-like face." That is the most accurate description of Bayformer Starscream I've ever heard!! 😂😂😂
lol, a dorito. It's dumb to color Blitzwing like Starscream and not even apparently realize it. However, the rest still looks good for that new film and they have tetrajets in the Cybertron clips. The Cybertron stuff actually looks to be the best part. I wish they'd do a whole animated movie with just that. But then, we can't relate to the humans, or something...
I am fascinated of the seekers. Jet troops which some of them are characters while other ones are just generic. My favorite ones would have to be Skywarp, Slipstream, and Acid Storm. Skywarp recently seems to be missing in the gang. I don't know why he isn't in cyberverse with Thundercracker like in G1. Him not in the promotional art of siege tells me that he won't be part of the toyline. I hope we see him again.
I believe the decepticon seekers are a symbol to show their faction is built for war, which is why they have fighter jet modes, and it was shown in the g1 cartoon that the decepticons were originally built specifically for war by the quintessons. As for the Starscream/blitzwing confusion, I think there may have been a confusion when researching Transformers during production. They probably thought all seekers(minus the Coneheads) have the same head shape. That’s the only the explanation I can think of
Actually it has to do with the original intention of this being a prequel to the Bay films so they made the jet someone else. Unless he is a Triple Changer like he should be.
@@lel0uchvibritannia981 It was originally intended to be a prequel to Bayformers. Now it's not so clear if it's an original story or still a prequel. Regardless, it is looking rather promising
13:02 My respect for Travis Knight has just increased again. He clearly is aware of the fan expectations and tried to soften the blow. This seems to be something from either Bay or Hasbro itself.
That’s very true. He’s a real diplomat. When someone was asking him about the latest Star Wars films he said “Ah, an ambush!” He did say he’d have done things differently. But did say that he felt Star Wars was in a very bad place with the studio and creative types saying that those disliking the films are bad people. He said that isn’t just bad for business it’s just plain wrong and offensive. He said “those are your most loyal supporters.”
Nacelle is pronounced na-cell the last e is silent (a nacelle in Star Trek is the cylindrical parts of a starship on the outside which hold the warp coils).
Oh yeah, I'm definitely with you on the Starscream/Blitzwing debacle. That Bumblebee trailer had so much going for it, and even if they give that Starscream-lookin' jet a third tank mode, just freakin' LOOK at him. Dollars to doughnuts, that was a late-game decision, and depending on the quality of the film, I might well just invoke Death of the Author and wonder aloud where Starscream got his tank mode.
From the toy perspective for sure what better way to recycle the same molds. When I first saw G1 I hoped we would of saw more of some of the other seekers but it was cool too hear in the extended universe they did flesh these lesser known seekers out. If they a going with Blitzwing I do hope we will see his three forms. It is kinda eh when the colors say Starscream but its like they haven't used different color schemes on characters anyway. I do think it is very cool to see Starscream finally get a release with his Cybertonian alt mode hope they do the same for Thuindercracker and Skywarp. Honestly it would be cool if they gave Wheeljack, Bumblebee, and Jazz in their Cybertronian alt modes as well.
Great video again Rodimus. Personally I like the names that were given to the variously colored seekers from G1. Mindless clones don't work for me and lets face it we all like the different personalities that our Transformers characters have. That is why we watch in the 1st place....besides the fact that Transformers are still the greatest toy concept ever!!
because its easier to repaint old characters then make new ones XD. for me i like to think one of two things. 1. they are a special team that have the same design so bots can know who they are. or 2. they were cloned from one bot to make an army. this was a fun vid RP
Thanks for sharing this video on the Seekers. Great info! I always liked the design of the G1 Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp Seekers. Weren't as fond of the coneheads, but got used to them. The old 'Prowl Pants' website (if I remember correctly), had models of numerous Seekers - Snowcap, Garnet, Ghost, are the ones I remember, while the old 'Iacon City' website had numerous Seekers, such as the Rainmakers, and others such as Apache and Osprey, female Seekers like Jadewind and Nightraven, and additional coneheads too. Iacon City also listed further Sweeps. I've always visualised some Seekers as being Autobots, mainly because I like to think all of them can't be totally Decepticon-aligned, and because the UK G1 comic at times referred to the Autobot 'Elite Flying Corps', which Swoop (formerly known as Divebomb), before the Predacon Divebomb stole Swoop's name. I liked to assume that some of the Elite Flying Corps, would have originated from the Seeker mould. I think I remember the Iacon City website profiling one such Autobot Seekers, named Slipsteam, who had a distinctive visor in place, which made him stand out from the other Deceps. Great stuff, and thanks again 👍🏾👍🏾
This was a fantastic video Rodimus, don't worry, when you were talking about the seekers in the Bumblebee trailer, you can actually see Starscream, and he does look like his G1 counter-part in the background with the picture of Shockwave and the seekers
His name is pronounced Nay Cell It is the same name used for the Star Trek: The Next Generation engine components that the warp special effect comes from. Love the video series and I am shocked by how many seekers were in the show. Also the Insecticons were in the beginning of Season 4 Part 1 of "The Rebirth" trilogy. They are eating the door to the Autobots base and get a good couple of minutes of screen time. You have even used the clip a bunch of times. So not all of the Insecticons were reformatted by Unicron. Also would love a TF discussion about the 2 Kid Stuff See & Read Transformers tapes that were produced. Both volumes are on TH-cam and the 2nd one is the only media appearance in the 80's of Venom that I can find.
Never Mind. I retract my statement about the Insecticons. Blasted footage and the bases look too much alike. Just double checked the scene to refresh my memory and completely mixed the 2 episodes up.
@@RodimusPrimal It's interesting that Seeker is called Nacelle. Cause technically, it doesn't have one. A Nacelle is a streamlined housing on the outside of an aircraft, so technically not built into the inner frame. Like how the B-52's engines hang from the wings, or engines that are sticking outside of Airships, or like how the one guy said the engines for the enterprise are seperated from the main hull by nacelles.. F-15's and the seeker cybertron form engines are built into the design.
Love the video, Rodimus. Hate to think that seekers are clones of Starscream (especially given Starscream backstory with Skyfire). I rather think that Starscream was rebuilt to be like the seekers. I think that Dirge, Thrust, Ramjet, are rebuilt background transformers from the pilot episodes as are Astrotrain and Blitzwing. Love to know what your opinion on how the original Decepticon triple-changers including Octane, came to be?
One of my biggest complaints about G1 (and keep in mind that G1 is the only franchise I really care about) is that Starscream's backstory involved him and Skyfire being scientists, but for some reason is presented as completely dim-witted from that point on. I always rather liked the idea, and played with my toys accordingly, that Starscream was low-key brilliant and acted otherwise to hide it until the time was right.
Seekers are the best! But Blitzwing is..... is a one great disappointment, because: 1. all others in Bumblebee were very nice and lovely made with the G1 design, and he's not! Why can't they make a new character like Shatter and Dropkick?! this guy was for one shot for a God's sake! He was great, but whyyyy?!!! 2. Blitzwing has super wonderful original G1 design! Why can't they do him like he was?! WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But btw - great video, thank you very much!
I saw the movie last night and I have to say Acidstorm is that green seeker plus he's not a conehead it's just his jet parts on his back he also transforms to a Tetra Jet
I used to watch the oriogonal cartoons but I don't remember any mention of the term Seekers. What does Seekers mean? Is it just all the robots that transformed into Jets among the Decepticons?
@D Gray that's not it bro, it's called a troll, it's there to hype you then decieve your expextations with brio, just like starscream. and i personally love the idea of blitzwing being the grey and red boi for once.
^This^ They all can say whatever they want... There ARE color schemes, a palette and personality for each one...What is SO hard? Why is this even a debate? Why aren't the Colorists following it? Don't let any of the new fans (or old fans) play you like these things don't matter. Because they do. smh @D Gray
I'm addicted to your channel. I grew up in the 80s and Transformers was everything. Please consider doing a video on the artwork of Transformers from the toy art cards to the comics. The various animation art can also be a video discussion, "for another day". Thanks for the great channel!
Nice video man, love the conversation. I love seekers, I love army builders (the dudes that can die, because they have no personality) I LOVE Bumblebee (movie) and really hope it does well. They didn't plan for the Cybertron part (Hasbro) I think because there aren't any toys of Cybertron. Cool video
Dude great videos man. As an 80s baby and huge transformers fan all this mythology is amazing best channel for information about transformers on TH-cam
I believe you are mispronouncing Nacelle. I believe (educated guess) It would be pronounced like Warp nacelle in Star Trek. Looking forward to the discussion on G1 Triple Changers. I loved Blitzwing. In G1, I thought he was the Deception with the most common sense. One of the few toys (Though missing limbs and his turret). Though based on the little footage from trailers I'm not happy that he has Starscream's Red. Still hoping this will reboot the live action transformers to a new universe and we can get rid of the damn Bayverse
THANK YOU FOR AN INCREDIBLE VIDEO RODIMUSPRIMAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have always believed that Sunstorm and Nova Storm were separate characters, and your video confirms it. :D Great look at the Decepticon Jets, it was a real thrill seeker. ;D
Great video & I'm not trying to be nit-picky but Nacelle is pronounced like (Na-cell) which is a stream lined housing for something outside of an aircraft.
Great history lesson. Seems we have to keep evolving our understanding of Transformers as new writers and directors take inspiration from the past and rewrite it...a lot. Still not as bad as the unnamable one.
Another great video. I always wondered what have happened if Galvatron never came into existence and Starscream stayed leader. But that is a discussion for another day.
First of all I want to touch base on slipstream. I know this is going to sound corny but this is a new millennium and having more female or feminine base characters in transformers is a must so congrats on that 2 Hasbro for finally growing a brain. Next while I know it's difficult and manufacturing to produce multiple multiple multiple molds it's way past time to do away with the cloning thing and just create a busload of individuals thank you for breaking this down for us
I love the Seekers! Especialy when you take the idea from IDW (which Travis seems tho have done in Bumblebee) The perfect form for the Decepticon armada! Now here's a question! (I know I've recently asked the same question on a different video but I also wanted to ask it on the video more related to the subject) What do you think is the Autobot's version to the Seekers? We have some obvious candidates in Bumblebee, Ironhide but also in Sideswipe! What do you think?
It's really a tough call. If I had to say, a similar mold to Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen probably because of how many times his body type has been used. Just the basic layout of his body too even with a different car like Jazz or Movie Bumblebee with the door wings and car hood on the chest.
I thought about this one a while back, and came up with a theory that I think explains the Seeker mold, at least for G1. First, looking at the "Five Faces of Darkness" arc, we see that the ancestors of the Transformers were mass produced, and even after achieving sentience and independence, individual color and form were somewhat slow to arise. In the episode War Dawn, where the Arielbots are sent back in time, it is revealed that a new kind of robot has arisen on Cybertron, one that can fly in its robot mode. It is also shown that many of Megatron's troops are in fact drones, i.e. robots without independent thought. Why is this important? First, because these new Decepticons were in fact so new, they were probably far fewer in number than the older land bound Transformers. This explains why much of the raiding party was mindless drones, and why there were always so many more Autobots than Deceptions. Second, much like their ancestors, the initial robot form was most likely uniform until the line was "improved" or "perfected". Starscream, Skywarp, and the other first wave seekers were of this first line. The Coneheads were a second line or were experiments into creating more powerful or unique Seekers. As to why they were all jets, that is the easiest question to answer. The answer is, to maximize their flight power. Few Autobots had any flight capabilities, in robot or vehicle mode. Even those who had aircraft forms, such as Powerglide and the Arielbots, often needed to have a running start or a runway to take off. The Decepticons could take off in robot mode, and instantly transform into jet mode, which was often faster and maneuverable. The Seeker design was simply a means to enhance their inherent flight ability. Sorry for the length, but please do respond. I would love to hear feedback on this. Love the video and keep up the good work.
As everyone (who has watched g1) knows, the seekers are the first Decepticons to appear on a television, but if you look closely, Thundercracker is the first of the 3 to appear, making him the first ever Decepticon to appear in a show/movie that bears the name "Transformers" (I'm not sure if the comics came first, which is why I have decided to confuse readers by at least putting a point out
I believe bumblebee is a reboot because in the trailer the transformers on cybertron resemble their G1 selves but in the 2007 movie before they got to earth they looked totally different and they spoke cybertronian in the first film before getting to earth and in bumblebee they are speaking perfect English on cybertron Reboot alert reboot alert
DEATHSTROKE yeah there’s sector 7 but anything can be a reboot I in the trailer unlike the bay films it seems to have heart to the point where honestly it’s not suggesting a prequel it’s suggesting a reboot
I think what they're going for is a soft reboot. If things don't work out, call it a prequel, but the designs bring in moviegoers and fans after the debacle that was Last Knight, venture off into its own thing. Considering how many problems I have with the Bayverse, I'm happy to let them do just that. At least Soundwave and Shockwave look like Soundwave and Shockwave this time, so that gives me hope I never expected to have when this film was first announced.
@@jakeproven5931 screw it yeah this is a reboot. Travis knight should stop saying that this movie is still in bayverse cuz if this connect with last knight and 2007 transformers this is too weird
Ever since Transformers Animated, like the idea of the Seekers like Thundercracker, Skywarp, Ramjet and other from the Transformers franchise that share Starscream's body type being his clones.
Ramjet: I crash, I take an Autobot with me!
Crash into Megatron
Megatron: I got morons on my team!
Why can I see myself as ramjet in that scene?
@@Raymonster_1 I can not really find that freaking seeker is this guy blitz wing I can't
I relate to ramjet.
@@Raymonster_1 yes
Megatron: I am not a Autobot this is not earthspark!
I received all 3 Seekers from the original line on Christmas Eve 1984! My cousin received Prime and Jazz...the war of Grandma's house that night was legendary!
Well La Di Da!!!!😁😉
Must've been a fun night
You lucky bastard.
I got Skywarp at my dad’s on Christmas Eve and then my cousin and I both got the Lamborghini twins one Christmas Day from my grandparents. I think my mom got me a few of the mini-auto bots.
If you pause slowly and repeatedly during the battle of Unicron and the decepticons, some of the jets are are in other colors and when Unicron eats some of the Decepticon jets, he actually destroys 4 of them and two are in Ramjet colors, suggesting that it was an animation mistake and they were just unnamed seekers.
That film was just a harrowing experience for a kid. Will have to keep an eye out next time I rewatch it.
@@GingerNorseman hi dude how are you
The seekers unicron eats were in the colors of the conehead indicating he ate them
But they apeared in season 3 and 4 alive and having a prominent role in some episodes
@@michelcoolguy1701 hi dude how are you
@@thesadistor-hl7lw I have never met you in my life
Megatron had a limited budget?
LMAO!
@@RodimusPrimal in the Airmech game series, the striker Airmech, looks like the seekers.
Very low budget
When starscream got his new paintjob in armada he exclaimed that he looked like thundercracker which i found interesting
"...Starscream resembled a hulking dorito with chicken legs and a beak-like face."
That was beautiful. I think I laughed for a solid minute. Michael Bay, I gotta hand it to you, live-action Transformers with all the details and all the action was a great idea, but you had such poor, poor execution.
Better boring LEGO blocky at least he look more realistic in bot mode in bumble movie prime look very cartoony non realistic in truck mode I never saw red semi truck driving on road
LMAO
@@florsalas3540 LMAO, I read his comment again with waspinator's voice in my head. So true.
I wanted a more g1 accurate shape. But I read that the reason for his odd shape was that the F-22 was a bulkier jet then the F-15 so he had to be chunkier.
I couldn't agree more with him.
14:32
"And what do you make of all this Starscream/Blitzwing thing?"
**Shows Transformers Cloud Starscream, which uses Generations Blitzwing's molding**
Clever
Edit: That heart came mere _seconds_ after posting this comment!
Sean T and we can see from both if you put a blitzwing in a starscream suit he looks mighty fine
I just happened to be looking at the comments when reading that!
Nice.
And while the whole Starscream/Blitzwing this was odd, glad they actually still put him in the film on Cybertron.
hi
They should have just made him ramjet
They really should have. I mean I’d be pretty bummed it’s not Starscream but at least the colors would match
Yeah I don't know why the seeker bumblebe killed wasn't just a random seeker. I mean he could be red wing.
@@HMSBreadnought I had that thought in my head after I remembered Ramjet's colors and I thought it was him, until I heard it was Blitzing.
(Skywarp to Thundercracker): you ever notice how all these puny flesh creatures look the same?
Thundercracker: I know, right? And they say WE look alike!
The Autobots seem don't have problems to reconize him, so yeah.
That's racist! Lol
@@jinkwon8410 sky warp:yeah were totally different colors
Starscream: Skywarp, you can't say that, That's Racist!
I believe that Slipstream is Starscream's logical personality, how else would she come to the realization that Starscream's Armada is core aspects of his personality, or how she and the other clones betrayed Starscream by joining Megatron after seeing how easily defeated Starscream was, and how she told Megatron's army to aim for Omega Supreme's legs after seeing that they were his weak spot. Rodimus Primal, I love your videos and how you obviously tell you put so much effort into them! You are AMAZING! I too believe it was a foolish idea to call an obvious Starscream decepticon model and call it Blitzwing instead of Starscream. The reason the film director did it is because he did not want the same cast of transformers from Michael Bay's movies and instead use new transformers, but call Starscream Blitzwing really?! I hope you enjoy the film and till' all are one!
Slipstream is starscream's feminine side
Could've at least had Blitzwing also turn into a tank. Then we could let it slide. Or better yet, make it Jetfire.
I like the theory that the female starscream is starscream's self-loathing That's why she always seems to hold this anger towards starscream and why she's so different because she intentionally made herself as different as she could from starscream by giving her self a different voice.
Also, for the bumblebee movie, it actually makes sense that it's it'snot starscream because fans would be really mad if they killed star scream at the end of the movie without even a single attempt to betray Megatron 😂🤣
@@klaykid117More like at the start of the movie
Thanks for having me be part of this my dude, good video!
Comodin Cam I just found out that the bumblebee prequel comic isn't even canon anymore
@@punchline1279 WHAT?!
Chevy234 Gaming yep
lisa ortiz who said that
The Darth Knight I looked it up on transformers wiki. it took a LOT of reading
This video was “THE WOW FACTOR.” Awesome Video Rodimus! Honored to be apart of it.
Thanks for joining in bro! Honored to have you!
One, debatable, omission would be that Rampage (Beast Wars) was also a Starscream clone.
Could you explain further?
@@GrimmSpectre18 Watch Beast Wars, the character of Rampage is a failed attempt to clone the spark of Starscream.
@@AdamKoralik Rampage is more of a twisted homage than a true clone.
At least they are going for the G1 look as apposed to the Michael Bay junk yard metal sculptures.
How can you say that against my crosshairs!
Michael bay's designs doesn't look like it transforms. It looks more like they took the model and disassemble it and reassemble again into a different thing with added parts to look like it's a robot.
@@novustalks7525 i cant tell if they're distinct when they're all gray
@@novustalks7525 They’re all grey, overly detailed, always moving, and the camera’s almost always pulled way the fuck back so you can see the action. Add it all up and you get a mess of metal shards beating the crap out of another mess of metal shards.
G1 can be forgiven because it was made on a shit budget to sell imported toys to ten year olds. Michael Bay has no excuse. He had all the money in Hollywood to work with and he gave us an all-spectacle, zero-substance, juvenile farce. You can get the same experience by running a blender full of scrap metal while someone tells you dick and fart jokes in a series of racist accents.
@@pyzzabox6574 Michael Bay's Transformers look what would actually happen if you split a car into 1,000 pieces the G1 Transformers don't look like they're going to transform now I say they're both kind of meh because one I can't tell the difference between the background and the other I can't tell if that's a character or a animation error
"Movie Starscream looks like a hulking Darito with chicken legs and a bird like beak."
Lmfao I'm dying! 😂😂😂
I'd like to see you do a video on all the cassette transformers.
It's on my list of videos to do!
RodimusPrimal Great! I always wondered why Blaster never called any in season 2 and if Ravage and some of the original ones didn't survive the movie.
Ok I know your mad but here is some good news. The red and white seeker on cybertron is the real starscream and not blitzwing
Lol. I've heard. I hope it's a reboot now at this point.
Edward Quezada that’s what I’ve been saying!!!!
In a recent tv spot, its revealed that the seeker has been redesigned. He has a new face and a colour scheme which makes him look more like starscream.
RodimusPrimal bombshell was cyclonus
@@RodimusPrimal it is
Now we know why Megatron kept Starscream around. Clones.
Always impressed with your encyclopedic knowledge of Transformers.
"...resembles a hulking Dorito with chicken legs and a beak-like face."
That is the most accurate description of Bayformer Starscream I've ever heard!! 😂😂😂
lol, a dorito.
It's dumb to color Blitzwing like Starscream and not even apparently realize it. However, the rest still looks good for that new film and they have tetrajets in the Cybertron clips. The Cybertron stuff actually looks to be the best part. I wish they'd do a whole animated movie with just that.
But then, we can't relate to the humans, or something...
I loved the first movie when it came out (look, my tastes weren’t as refined as they are today) but even then all I saw was the classic Dorito shape!
Fuck humans, the focus should be on the Transformers themselves!
He doesn’t have blue on him.........idiot
an animated transformers movie would be too expensive for paramount
* Angry smol green Peridorito sounds *
I am fascinated of the seekers. Jet troops which some of them are characters while other ones are just generic. My favorite ones would have to be Skywarp, Slipstream, and Acid Storm. Skywarp recently seems to be missing in the gang. I don't know why he isn't in cyberverse with Thundercracker like in G1. Him not in the promotional art of siege tells me that he won't be part of the toyline. I hope we see him again.
He is a the she/female purple seeker with thundercracker in the 1st episode. It is a gender crisis
@@lordstopmotionstudios5626 No I'm pretty sure that's just a different character.
@@endersage3514 yeah that's another character called Nova Storm
I think skywarp looks the best in colors
Tbh it's a shame he got eaten alive by Gnaw in the Aligned continuity(I'm pretty sure)
I believe the decepticon seekers are a symbol to show their faction is built for war, which is why they have fighter jet modes, and it was shown in the g1 cartoon that the decepticons were originally built specifically for war by the quintessons.
As for the Starscream/blitzwing confusion, I think there may have been a confusion when researching Transformers during production. They probably thought all seekers(minus the Coneheads) have the same head shape. That’s the only the explanation I can think of
Actually it has to do with the original intention of this being a prequel to the Bay films so they made the jet someone else. Unless he is a Triple Changer like he should be.
RodimusPrimal This is a prequel to Bayformers? Oh great, that really ruins it for me
@@lel0uchvibritannia981 It was originally intended to be a prequel to Bayformers. Now it's not so clear if it's an original story or still a prequel. Regardless, it is looking rather promising
But I like that idea of the Seekers representing the Decepticons being built for war, since it kind of gives them a military uniform feel.
@@OptimusPhillip well in the bayverse the decepticons were mostly military vehicles
Cant stop nodding my head to your intro cause its sick
13:02 My respect for Travis Knight has just increased again. He clearly is aware of the fan expectations and tried to soften the blow. This seems to be something from either Bay or Hasbro itself.
This is something all show creators can learn as many modern remakes tend to attack fans lately.
That’s very true. He’s a real diplomat. When someone was asking him about the latest Star Wars films he said “Ah, an ambush!” He did say he’d have done things differently. But did say that he felt Star Wars was in a very bad place with the studio and creative types saying that those disliking the films are bad people. He said that isn’t just bad for business it’s just plain wrong and offensive. He said “those are your most loyal supporters.”
Guess hes not a prima donna creator who cant stand any criticism.
@@RodimusPrimal *COUGH* Teen Titans Go *COUGH*
*MICHAEL BAY*
lol I always expect Rodimus to show us Starscream's dance in TFP.
F*** you Michael Bay f***you
Thundercracker is the best of the seekers, I will fight anyone on this.
At least you have a favorite. Three apparently do not!
Starscream is the best no question asked
PaperPlane eh starscream better
Sorry but skywarp is the best seeker
sorry but starscream is the best
Nacelle is pronounced na-cell the last e is silent (a nacelle in Star Trek is the cylindrical parts of a starship on the outside which hold the warp coils).
Nacelle sounds like a girl's name.
@@o_o-037 Kinda i think they probably would be a girl along with ion storm and nova storm
A hulking Dorito with chicken legs i found that very funny
He didn’t hold back for bayverse starscream
Recently found this channel and I’m glad I did. Great work and will be watching all videos from here on.
Thanks! Glad you enjoy it!
Oh yeah, I'm definitely with you on the Starscream/Blitzwing debacle. That Bumblebee trailer had so much going for it, and even if they give that Starscream-lookin' jet a third tank mode, just freakin' LOOK at him. Dollars to doughnuts, that was a late-game decision, and depending on the quality of the film, I might well just invoke Death of the Author and wonder aloud where Starscream got his tank mode.
From the toy perspective for sure what better way to recycle the same molds. When I first saw G1 I hoped we would of saw more of some of the other seekers but it was cool too hear in the extended universe they did flesh these lesser known seekers out. If they a going with Blitzwing I do hope we will see his three forms. It is kinda eh when the colors say Starscream but its like they haven't used different color schemes on characters anyway. I do think it is very cool to see Starscream finally get a release with his Cybertonian alt mode hope they do the same for Thuindercracker and Skywarp. Honestly it would be cool if they gave Wheeljack, Bumblebee, and Jazz in their Cybertronian alt modes as well.
Great video again Rodimus. Personally I like the names that were given to the variously colored seekers from G1. Mindless clones don't work for me and lets face it we all like the different personalities that our Transformers characters have. That is why we watch in the 1st place....besides the fact that Transformers are still the greatest toy concept ever!!
because its easier to repaint old characters then make new ones XD.
for me i like to think one of two things.
1. they are a special team that have the same design so bots can know who they are.
or 2. they were cloned from one bot to make an army.
this was a fun vid RP
Thanks for sharing this video on the Seekers. Great info! I always liked the design of the G1 Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp Seekers. Weren't as fond of the coneheads, but got used to them. The old 'Prowl Pants' website (if I remember correctly), had models of numerous Seekers - Snowcap, Garnet, Ghost, are the ones I remember, while the old 'Iacon City' website had numerous Seekers, such as the Rainmakers, and others such as Apache and Osprey, female Seekers like Jadewind and Nightraven, and additional coneheads too. Iacon City also listed further Sweeps.
I've always visualised some Seekers as being Autobots, mainly because I like to think all of them can't be totally Decepticon-aligned, and because the UK G1 comic at times referred to the Autobot 'Elite Flying Corps', which Swoop (formerly known as Divebomb), before the Predacon Divebomb stole Swoop's name. I liked to assume that some of the Elite Flying Corps, would have originated from the Seeker mould. I think I remember the Iacon City website profiling one such Autobot Seekers, named Slipsteam, who had a distinctive visor in place, which made him stand out from the other Deceps. Great stuff, and thanks again 👍🏾👍🏾
This was a fantastic video Rodimus, don't worry, when you were talking about the seekers in the Bumblebee trailer, you can actually see Starscream, and he does look like his G1 counter-part in the background with the picture of Shockwave and the seekers
Why would Michael Bay rename Starscream as Blitzwing?
@@michaelalameda2002 he never did
@@OutOfIdeas9977 who dunnit then?
@@michaelalameda2002 nobody, Starscream and Blitzwing are different characters.
LPS is a great TF channel, so is Comodin Cam, glad to see you guy collaborate
His name is pronounced
Nay Cell
It is the same name used for the Star Trek: The Next Generation engine components that the warp special effect comes from.
Love the video series and I am shocked by how many seekers were in the show.
Also the Insecticons were in the beginning of Season 4 Part 1 of "The Rebirth" trilogy. They are eating the door to the Autobots base and get a good couple of minutes of screen time. You have even used the clip a bunch of times. So not all of the Insecticons were reformatted by Unicron.
Also would love a TF discussion about the 2 Kid Stuff See & Read Transformers tapes that were produced. Both volumes are on TH-cam and the 2nd one is the only media appearance in the 80's of Venom that I can find.
Thanks for the help in pronunciation. Are you referring to the Decepticons attacking Autobot City in Five Faces of Darkness?
Never Mind. I retract my statement about the Insecticons. Blasted footage and the bases look too much alike. Just double checked the scene to refresh my memory and completely mixed the 2 episodes up.
I was going to state how it was pronounced but then I was all, "I'm sure someone beat me to it" :p
@@RodimusPrimal yeah Nacelle is pronounced nay cell or nuh cell.
@@RodimusPrimal It's interesting that Seeker is called Nacelle. Cause technically, it doesn't have one. A Nacelle is a streamlined housing on the outside of an aircraft, so technically not built into the inner frame. Like how the B-52's engines hang from the wings, or engines that are sticking outside of Airships, or like how the one guy said the engines for the enterprise are seperated from the main hull by nacelles.. F-15's and the seeker cybertron form engines are built into the design.
Jesus. $14.99 is the equivalent to over $35.00 today. That's a lot of money for a single action figure that's actually designed to be played with.
I totally agree. And people were flipping out about the price of the reissues!
an army of seekers are in the opening of Bumblebee
I always liked skywarp my favorite seeker
Love the video, Rodimus. Hate to think that seekers are clones of Starscream (especially given Starscream backstory with Skyfire). I rather think that Starscream was rebuilt to be like the seekers. I think that Dirge, Thrust, Ramjet, are rebuilt background transformers from the pilot episodes as are Astrotrain and Blitzwing. Love to know what your opinion on how the original Decepticon triple-changers including Octane, came to be?
One of my biggest complaints about G1 (and keep in mind that G1 is the only franchise I really care about) is that Starscream's backstory involved him and Skyfire being scientists, but for some reason is presented as completely dim-witted from that point on. I always rather liked the idea, and played with my toys accordingly, that Starscream was low-key brilliant and acted otherwise to hide it until the time was right.
Seekers are the best! But Blitzwing is..... is a one great disappointment, because: 1. all others in Bumblebee were very nice and lovely made with the G1 design, and he's not! Why can't they make a new character like Shatter and Dropkick?! this guy was for one shot for a God's sake! He was great, but whyyyy?!!! 2. Blitzwing has super wonderful original G1 design! Why can't they do him like he was?! WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But btw - great video, thank you very much!
Thanks for the compliments. I look at Movie Blitzwing as the character in name only. The real Triple Changer is out there somewhere.
Why would the character design be so accurate, yet give him the wrong name?
Thankyou! I've been trying to understand the seekers/coneheads thing for a while now!
I have never heard of a better description of bayverse starscream than a "hulking doritos"
This was a great video !!!! I loved it ! Can’t wait for more ! Never stop your channel please !
The problem with bumblebee blitzwing, why wasn't he purple to avoid starscream confusion?
Better yet, why give him the Jazz treatment? Dies in the first battle he's in. Should've made it just an unnamed generic decepticon
That would be even worse because then people would think blitzwing is skywarp or something like that
This channel should be more popular since the videos are good
great video!!!! shoutout to last prime speculator!!! i will be seeing this movie next saturday
"But that's a discussion for another day" is like your catchphrase
Great vid! Seekers are my favorite
Nice vid Rodimus. Agreed on your frustration with starscream/blitzwing.
11:52 you can see the real star scream standing behind shockwave on the right, ahead of what might be skywarp and acid storm
That acid storm looking guy is also a conehead
Ramjet: "What? I'm the original starscream!"
I saw the movie last night and I have to say Acidstorm is that green seeker plus he's not a conehead it's just his jet parts on his back he also transforms to a Tetra Jet
And a blue seeker with stripes (Thundercracker )was throwed by Optimus
And in the second trailer the design was changed to more resemble G1 starscream
I used to watch the oriogonal cartoons but I don't remember any mention of the term Seekers. What does Seekers mean? Is it just all the robots that transformed into Jets among the Decepticons?
The sky warped then the thunder cracked and the star's began to scream
Axen 5150 and the jets rammed and the....thrusts dirged....um...
Hi Rodimus Primal, love all your videos and can’t wait to see more discussions.
Thanks! A lot more to come!
I call blasphemy on the Blitzwing/Starscream situatio for the Bumblebee movie
@D Gray that's not it bro, it's called a troll, it's there to hype you then decieve your expextations with brio, just like starscream. and i personally love the idea of blitzwing being the grey and red boi for once.
i don't. i call this going new on something old. like animated did in it's time. chill bruh.
^This^ They all can say whatever they want... There ARE color schemes, a palette and personality for each one...What is SO hard? Why is this even a debate? Why aren't the Colorists following it? Don't let any of the new fans (or old fans) play you like these things don't matter. Because they do. smh @D Gray
I'm addicted to your channel. I grew up in the 80s and Transformers was everything.
Please consider doing a video on the artwork of Transformers from the toy art cards to the comics. The various animation art can also be a video discussion, "for another day".
Thanks for the great channel!
I think everyone will call him starscream
"All hail Starscream!" haha
@@TheHylden Oh yeeeaaahhh!😎
@@TheHylden the hylden I know everyone is really upset on this reprotective on starscream and blitz wing
Great discussion as always!
Awesome to see Slipstream and Sunstorm along side the original trio of seekers in the Transformers Trading Card Game!
Nice video man, love the conversation.
I love seekers, I love army builders (the dudes that can die, because they have no personality)
I LOVE Bumblebee (movie) and really hope it does well. They didn't plan for the Cybertron part (Hasbro) I think because there aren't any toys of Cybertron. Cool video
Dude great videos man. As an 80s baby and huge transformers fan all this mythology is amazing best channel for information about transformers on TH-cam
The G1 seekers are the best looking. And my favorite seeker is and will always be Thundercracker.
Oh my God, oh my God !!!! This is your best video forever !!!! I love the Transformers Jets .... greetings from Córdoba, Argentina
I believe you are mispronouncing Nacelle. I believe (educated guess) It would be pronounced like Warp nacelle in Star Trek. Looking forward to the discussion on G1 Triple Changers.
I loved Blitzwing. In G1, I thought he was the Deception with the most common sense. One of the few toys (Though missing limbs and his turret). Though based on the little footage from trailers I'm not happy that he has Starscream's Red.
Still hoping this will reboot the live action transformers to a new universe and we can get rid of the damn Bayverse
THANK YOU FOR AN INCREDIBLE VIDEO RODIMUSPRIMAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have always believed that Sunstorm and Nova Storm were separate characters, and your video confirms it. :D Great look at the Decepticon Jets, it was a real thrill seeker. ;D
Great video & I'm not trying to be nit-picky but Nacelle is pronounced like (Na-cell) which is a stream lined housing for something outside of an aircraft.
Thanks. Yeah, I found out after I released the video how it is pronounced.
@@RodimusPrimal oh cool, you're welcome, really enjoyed this video thank you.
No bullshit, I'm bout to be on ya channel for most of the day....such a great channel
9:25, I think Starscream had a little feminine side to his personality lol
A bunch of seeker clones: THEY WONT BEAT US
Dies 2 seconds later*
Megtron: *Why must I do everything myself*
Great history lesson. Seems we have to keep evolving our understanding of Transformers as new writers and directors take inspiration from the past and rewrite it...a lot. Still not as bad as the unnamable one.
Another great video. I always wondered what have happened if Galvatron never came into existence and Starscream stayed leader. But that is a discussion for another day.
Great video, Rodimus.
I LOST IT AT THAT ONE SCENE WHERE YOU GUYS ARE SCREAMING “MICHEAL BAY!!!” AT 13:53
First of all I want to touch base on slipstream. I know this is going to sound corny but this is a new millennium and having more female or feminine base characters in transformers is a must so congrats on that 2 Hasbro for finally growing a brain. Next while I know it's difficult and manufacturing to produce multiple multiple multiple molds it's way past time to do away with the cloning thing and just create a busload of individuals thank you for breaking this down for us
Lol... it’s *N-O-T* Blitzwing! Lol. Great video gentlemen.
Skywarp is my favourite seeker.
Agreed!
Thank you for everything that you done.
Travis Knight: "That's not Starscream."
Me: 😲Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈
i mean its either this or starscream just exploding
Invader Naj true. Still should have been called Ramjet
Starscream is my favorite Transformers character, and because he's the air commander.
and the seekers are all the same in the color schemes.
I love the Seekers!
Especialy when you take the idea from IDW (which Travis seems tho have done in Bumblebee)
The perfect form for the Decepticon armada!
Now here's a question!
(I know I've recently asked the same question on a different video but I also wanted to ask it on the video more related to the subject) What do you think is the Autobot's version to the Seekers?
We have some obvious candidates in Bumblebee, Ironhide but also in Sideswipe!
What do you think?
It's really a tough call. If I had to say, a similar mold to Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen probably because of how many times his body type has been used. Just the basic layout of his body too even with a different car like Jazz or Movie Bumblebee with the door wings and car hood on the chest.
@@RodimusPrimal Awesome!
Thank you for your insight!
I thought about this one a while back, and came up with a theory that I think explains the Seeker mold, at least for G1. First, looking at the "Five Faces of Darkness" arc, we see that the ancestors of the Transformers were mass produced, and even after achieving sentience and independence, individual color and form were somewhat slow to arise. In the episode War Dawn, where the Arielbots are sent back in time, it is revealed that a new kind of robot has arisen on Cybertron, one that can fly in its robot mode. It is also shown that many of Megatron's troops are in fact drones, i.e. robots without independent thought. Why is this important? First, because these new Decepticons were in fact so new, they were probably far fewer in number than the older land bound Transformers. This explains why much of the raiding party was mindless drones, and why there were always so many more Autobots than Deceptions. Second, much like their ancestors, the initial robot form was most likely uniform until the line was "improved" or "perfected". Starscream, Skywarp, and the other first wave seekers were of this first line. The Coneheads were a second line or were experiments into creating more powerful or unique Seekers. As to why they were all jets, that is the easiest question to answer. The answer is, to maximize their flight power. Few Autobots had any flight capabilities, in robot or vehicle mode. Even those who had aircraft forms, such as Powerglide and the Arielbots, often needed to have a running start or a runway to take off. The Decepticons could take off in robot mode, and instantly transform into jet mode, which was often faster and maneuverable. The Seeker design was simply a means to enhance their inherent flight ability.
Sorry for the length, but please do respond. I would love to hear feedback on this. Love the video and keep up the good work.
6:03 this Trekkie has got you covered
Na sell
Thanks, though I'm sure Star Trek fans like to be called Trekkers.
11:25 I CAN'T, THE DESCRIPTION OF STARSCREAM SO FUNNY YET SO TRUE
13:49 Bay will pay for making blitzing into starscream
Isn’t it Travis Knight tho?
@@SuperZiggyCraft yes Knight is directing the new movie bay is no more
How did I read that in Megatrons voice
@@johnathanrancier2837 BUT Michael Bay is the Producer.
Bunnyboy King that means he has no control
Nice work keep making great content my man!!
As everyone (who has watched g1) knows, the seekers are the first Decepticons to appear on a television, but if you look closely, Thundercracker is the first of the 3 to appear, making him the first ever Decepticon to appear in a show/movie that bears the name "Transformers" (I'm not sure if the comics came first, which is why I have decided to confuse readers by at least putting a point out
"What part of me did you come from?" AAAAAAAAH MY MIND IS GOING CRAZY WITH DIRTY JOKES
11:25
So true!
I actually was literally laughing! No joke!!
Congratulations for 30k subscribers 🎉
Thank you! I just realized that just now!
11:25
Hulking dorito 😂
Great vid bro, I loved the scit at the end :)
Michael: It’s genius
All: MICHAEL BAYYYYYYYYYYYY
10:16 I feel like those two seekers may be named Sandstorm and Sunstorm
I believe bumblebee is a reboot because in the trailer the transformers on cybertron resemble their G1 selves but in the 2007 movie before they got to earth they looked totally different and they spoke cybertronian in the first film before getting to earth and in bumblebee they are speaking perfect English on cybertron Reboot alert reboot alert
I would like to believe that but its like they insisting that this is a prequel
DEATHSTROKE yeah there’s sector 7 but anything can be a reboot I in the trailer unlike the bay films it seems to have heart to the point where honestly it’s not suggesting a prequel it’s suggesting a reboot
I think what they're going for is a soft reboot. If things don't work out, call it a prequel, but the designs bring in moviegoers and fans after the debacle that was Last Knight, venture off into its own thing. Considering how many problems I have with the Bayverse, I'm happy to let them do just that. At least Soundwave and Shockwave look like Soundwave and Shockwave this time, so that gives me hope I never expected to have when this film was first announced.
@@jakeproven5931 screw it yeah this is a reboot. Travis knight should stop saying that this movie is still in bayverse cuz if this connect with last knight and 2007 transformers this is too weird
Ever since Transformers Animated, like the idea of the Seekers like Thundercracker, Skywarp, Ramjet and other from the Transformers franchise that share Starscream's body type being his clones.
Very cool I always loved starscream and his original voice
I love your channel such great information on my favorite cartoon ever as well as toys and comics
Who’s that Pokémon?
It’s Blitzwing!