Fred VanVleet's $30K fine gives players the 'green light' to criticize officials 😯 - Windy | Get Up
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- Fred VanVleet's $30K fine gives players the 'green light' to criticize officials 😯 - Windy | Get Up
Get Up weighs in on Fred VanVleet getting heated about officiating and being fined $30K by the NBA.
0:00 VanVleet's comments about officiating
1:31 Brian Windhorst reacts to the NBA fining VanVleet
4:54 Kendrick Perkins' reaction
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We the fans are sick of the refs ruining the game we love
i thought KD ruined the league,
i thought LBJ ruined the league,
i thought MJ ruined the league, truth is no one ruins the league.
also in the NFL
Nba doesn’t care about fans lol it’s just a business to them
@@KobeLoverTatum I thought u was smart
I'm more sick of seeing players whine to the refs every time they dont get a call they want. Nobody likes a complainer. You dont speak for all the fans.
VanVleet is a real one for this. Start making these refs have some accountability we’re tired of their bs
Imagine being a ref and the players whine and complain every time they dont get the call they want. You'd get sick of it too.
@@buddhamaster322 it’s part of the job, players get heckled by 30,000 fans all night and ref can’t take a couple players voicing there frustrations and for the most part are right lol
I hope the Raptors pay his fine.
Man they gon be on Fred azz🥲
Exactly!
He was smart to single out the ref and not generalize them all together.
He was. But that didn’t stop ESPN from posting a video with a caption that says “he attacked the integrity of the ENTIRE system”. Smfh.
@@cnryt5239 I mean ESPN also aired a segment of Stephen A agreeing with FVV so I think it balances out
@@jeshanjesuratnam2817 SAS the only one coherent
He absolutely should have called out all of them
@@cnryt5239 FVCK espn
Perhaps the reason for a less than normal fine was the league knows Fred was correct in this particular case.
It has something to do with the incident at the end of Lakers Celtics game not long ago. League doesn't want the image of overprotecting its referees after the backlash but has to fine Fred out of principal hence the minimum fine.
🎯GOOD POINT! They definitely don’t want another Tim Donaghy situation, because he was quick with the whistle and we eventually found out why.
Agreed. “We have to fine him, buuuuuut… ref, you do suck.”
Definitely was expecting the 50000 fine.
If the league don’t want mitigate the human errors by using technology to officiate, they should ask every team to list out maybe 3 or 5 officials that they don’t want in their games. If almost every team put the same official in their lists, he’s out.
Freddy a legend now. Took his fine and said his piece
Hopefully, refs don’t carry a personal vendetta against the Raptors.
Street credit or respect from an NBA ref… 😂
@@1933MB lol you must not watch the Raps… Ref’s been scheming against them for decades.
He's makes 800k every 2 weeks. 🤷🏾♂️
@@1933MB can't be any worst than what we have experienced for yrs especially this season.
“Only fined 30k” smh
The media sure knows how to gas light a situation don’t they
Like what? Talking about suspending a dude just for speaking up?
30k compared to 50k. It’s all relative.
Ikr
You just wanted to use “ gaslight “ in a sentence Lmao
It's ridiculous that they even fined him whatever happened to freedom of speech
Fred should not get fined for telling the truth 😂
Dictators in the US. These sports leaders should send to China.
fr, the league now is too soft.
The NBA only fined Van Fleet 30k because they knew he had a point!!🤔🤔🤔
Facts!
Talking about only lol they kill me , they want players to shut up nd dribble real life
Drop in the bucket for a guy like him.
This fine SUCKS.
He's just speaking FACTS.
It's been 3 years with the senseless techs/ejections being thrown here and there.
Way longer than that
TWolves fan here. Solidarity.
I don't pay hella money to buy tickets to a game for a ref to have his feelings hurt...
Big facts
You probably coming from Section 8 with that Hella money 😂
Windhorst just doesn’t get it
He's paid by the nba he has to take the nbas side just puppet behavior
He’s just thinking about his next meal
Horrible take how you gonna say he cussed at the ref no windy he just cussed wasnt toward anybody
Windhorst is a tool and just a giant bussy
He’s a stupid analyst
5 out of 8 of his technicals (team high) has been given by 1 ref. Out of 70 refs !! Do you know how insane that is. Ben Taylor can’t deny it’s personal for him.
Correction: 3 directly from him. 2 in a game he also officiated. Fred was ejected once by him too.
And he’s only reffed 6 raptors games this season.
Wow Fred has every right to feel that way.
So.. proof of nothing??
@akz
And Fred's been an a-hole in each game...
No wait... he's a basketball player thus a saint??
Referees in basketball suck the most ..
These refs are horrible
Ben Taylor has refed in 6 Raptors games this season, in 6 of those games, he's called at least 1 tech on Fred in 4/6 games, 2 techs in 1 of those games. Fred has a total of 8 techs this season, 5 of them were called by Ben Taylor.
3 were called by Taylor. Get your facts right before you spew your rant
@@buddhamaster322 related to Taylor?
Is this surprising? It's obvious the relationship is strained, so this isn't shocking.
@@aliciacolinjones5670 maybe FVV cries too much when he doesn't get the call he wants. I'd get sick of it too if I was a ref.
@@buddhamaster322 bruh shut up lol
Ben Taylor also shoved Fred during that inbound.. Windy you should be talking about that too.
FVV crawled so that the rest of the NBA players can walk. Go get'em players!
Ben Taylor needs to be investigated.. He called a silly Tech not too long ago too on Fred.
Windhorst says briefly in this video that he agrees that “we aren’t at the peak of officiating at the moment” but thinks the NBA should have cracked down harder on Fred. He has the worst opinions on a regular basis. These refs have been out of hand this season it’s clearly the truth. Soft, technical fouls and no/bad calls across the board
@@sorbeteskimo Nobody did and your stupid take is the reason why.
Windbag not only takes the refs side but he also offers his unfounded opinion that Fred was probably laughing about the size of the fine. Pretty sure VanVleet is not only not happy about the fine but also pissed off that he had to deal with this corrupt pos who clearly has screwed him around all season long. Could be Windy is in the same betting pool as this guy and Scott Foster.
hate windy
as a living couch potato he needed to 🤫 on this
These officials need to be fined and suspended
Perk is right. Fred is a stand-up guy. Legendary action.
Perkins is a racist goof!!
Brian windhorst must have not watched both the clippers, and nuggets games to not defend fred on this.
Brian doesn't watch games, just highlights.
😂 right
@@NBABY-J Never trust Windhorst.
He’s a company man
Brian....anyway....this dude is special...that's all I am going to say
Good. Officials need to face criticism too from more than just fans
I’m proud of Fred and proud to be a Canadian, this was a very intelligent move that only a true leader can and has to make! My Toronto Raptors have been getting bullied by the NBA and it’s officials for years now I’m glad somebody stood up for us.
Your raptors? Do you own them? And what does being Canadian have to do with anything? Lmao
@@KieranHunter 💀
@@KieranHunter BETA, that's what!!
Little Country can't handle losing
The refs aren’t just making bad calls, they’re actually dictating games and that’s where it becomes unacceptable. That Lakers vs Celtics game was their chance for a wake up call and it’s just business as usual.
lets be real here, that one was way overblown. They missed a foul on Davis that wouldve negated the basket by Beverly. There was also an egregious travelling by Lebron that was missed by the refs.
They need to start holding officials accountable
Fred was in the right. Refs are outta hand. Have been forever
because they know they've been doin us dirty
Us? Bruh you play for the Buffalo Wild Wings. Relax
Whos us lmao
Wow....what an L take for Windy
We all stand with the players.
If Perk isn’t allowed a opinion because he was a complaining player than Windy isn’t allowed an opinion because he was never even a player soft
It’s just a joke I think windy a good dude but in that same breath their is also truth in jokes I stand with perk on this one
100% agree with you. Windy's never played ball professionally, by the looks of it, not casually either, so his opinion on this matter is more biased imo. We, the fans, don't buy tickets to see the refs
He's right tho
This segment literally just proved why sports analysts should only be people who played the sport.
I just think it’s crazy how the refs get to do whatever they want with no consequences
Because they’re there to make sure NFL’s desired game outcomes happen.
@@newagain9964 you drunk kid
The way the league protects them so much it’s almost like there is something to hide
because it’s like the wwe
feels like somebodies are gambling in vegas
It’s not gambling it’s manufacturing thrill and story lines. The nba controls the narrative
The League office definitely told ESPN to be on their side, or else - surprised by Windy's take.
I am not surprise. He is a Raptors hater. I have lots of receipts to prove it.
Windy is a sheep
Massive respect for Vanvleet. He got his money's worth
he didnt call the ref out of his name, didnt say anything about the ref personally, just his ability to referee
Did you even watch the video.... 😐
If ref’s did media and were held accountable like players stuff like this wouldn’t happen
Windy sounding crazy.
Didn't Chris Paul and Scott Foster have beef and Paul called him out during press conference ?
Yes. But Windy want to go after FVV. He is not the only one. There a couple here in Toronto media as well. One who host a morning show telling audience if they bet to bet Lakers tonight b/c Raps won't get any calls.
When you have a rule saying you can’t critize a ref for a f**k up ;you have a bigger problem than the f**k up
Fred Vanvleet has 100% support of the NBA fans around the world for calling out the referee. Fred is 100% right!
2 minute report does nothing for the accountability of refs
It keeps showing they make major mistakes.
@lexis4490 Yea but they arent being reprimanded for falling short constantly
Ik greeny would call the cops on his neighbors lol
He said what the fans BEEN saying 🤷🏽♂️
I prefer and think it's better what VanVleet said. Be specific. Don't say all refs because it is not true. Call out the specific ref.
Come on Windy, you know how some of these refs feel entitled to do whatever they wanted without any repercussions. FVV is usually one of these easiest going guy’s and not afraid to be accountable to himself when the time comes. So the fact he felt this strongly to come out, and he didn’t generalize all the refs, goes to show, that some of these refs need to be called out.
He is a Raptors hater. He want nithing more than seeing us sink. I have receipts even from his own podcast
Players need to be called out too for their incessant whining to the refs every time they dont get the call they want. As a fan, im sick of seeing that. Refs must get tired of it too.
@@mollyweir9350 you’re right, he is. I like Windy take on other things but in this case he missed the mark. It almost sounded like he was on the refs payroll lol.
"30k is a lot of lettuce"
-Kendrick Perkins
Kendrick still sitting there thinking about JJ😂😂😂😂
Bring back the NBA of the 80s, 90s
Windy is trippin
That passive elbow by the ref 😂
What's the timestamp?
@@kulvirkang7953 I believe at 6:30
@@lawrenceramirez6067 thanks. But looked like he was grabbing the ball
@@kulvirkang7953 probably lol just looked like it for a sec
Freddy was so calm and composed while absolutely shitting on Ben Taylor.
I'm waiting for the 'we can't sleep at night' tweet from the ref association...
C'mon Windy, the NBA needs to fix the officiating. It's been utterly atrocious.
He is right, he should get a 30k bonus
Never forget that Windhorst sided with the police in Golden State Warriors state trooper vs Masai.
The only way to fix the officials is too change the rules. Take it back to 90s style and let the players play. U won’t have to worry about calls as much
Yes please!
So by 90's play, do you mean where a player had to put his/her arm up, to acknowledge the foul call? It put some accountability into the game, I feel. Also, I remember working the scorer's table at basketball games in high school, and that act of raising one's arm also really helped with the book-keeping.
He is smart in directing it to one ref specifically…otherwise it wouldn’t be just $30K.
Thats all it Takes a Strong Voice , someone who isn't. Easily threatened. 💪 🔥
The two second report is a cop-out. There's nothing about that report that actually effects the reffs in general. It's not holding them accountable because there's literally no repercussions.
Thank you Vanvleet... signed NBA fans
I've been refereeing basketball for over 16 years and I admit that there are good referees and they are not so good referees. We don't care who win or lose, but what we do care about is our ability to control the game and allowing the players to play. Keep in mind as much as we are trained to stay professional, we are human and we can get emotional because the game is so fast. We have to deal with attitudes from players, coaches, and fans. I use to tell parents to train to become referees if they felt they could do a better job than we could lol. A few did. Now they have a much broader respect for what we do 😂
I agree...I think Freddie generally has great respect for the majority of the refs.I agree with u that ref needs to control the game and the best way to do that is thru communication with the players so they understand what ur seeing. REFS and technical calls should not be the highlights of the games that fans pay BIG $$$ to see.Freddie knows how to play thru the calls and have chats with refs along the way.Thats what good floor generals do.These techs are overthe top.Ejecting Scottie Barnes for showing passion in a playoff like game was excessive for that moment and completely altered the closing of the game.if that was a playoff game it would have been horrific.
Respect your perspective. There is a line here and we can understand refs are not perfect. We can also see when refs are doing bad officiating.
So how do you feel about vanvliets comments singling out a couple of officials and not others
@@lovetosing1657 he literally said that he respects most refs
Thank goodness for this post. I too have been referring basketball for 20 plus years and definitely agree with everything on this comment. It's easy to call it from the stands. Be out there on the floor when you're trying to account for all the players while still hearing it from coaches and also players.
FVV is a LEGEND!! Only NBA player with an ACUTAL pair of NUTS!
He gotta go into his next press conference and go “wanna see me do it again?”
Can we fine referees for bad calls?
Fred venvleet Is absolutely right about the referees And he took that on the chin
Can't believe Perk actually made a good point lol
Windy sounding like the biggest narc 😭😭
Refs need to be held accountable, and pay fines, simple as that.
That sounded so hilarious when he used the word "premeditated" as if he went and attacked the ref physically 🤣. League office must have called ESPN and told them to do a segment to show that they feel this is unacceptable accept the fans have no problem with it
Maybe it's not right, but being calm and rational (despite the profanity which helped demonstrate how serious he was), well dressed post game and based on his overall character and reputation, Fred got off pretty lightly.
The issue is an important one, now what is the NBA and Silver going to do to correct the situation.
This doesn't give Players a 'green light'... This is an admission by the NBA that the REFS got this VERY WRONG.
Referees NEED to be held ACCOUNTABLE too!
He called our one ref. Not them all
Windy really was set on the fact that it’s sooooo easy to throw $30K away! 😅
He’s on good dope. Gotta be
There's Perk! Haha! Finally came back on TV after getting destroyed by JJ Redick.
He was on 1st take last week WITH JJ, after they had both said what they did
KP should not be allowed to come back, Perkins is a prime example that not all players can be analyst
KP needs to go back to school
@@CassandraBC school for what? Analysts always have good and bad takes. You lose a debate and debate another day.
@@CassandraBCYou are so right! I agree. Plus, his takes are horrible.
The issue not only affects players but coaching staff's jobs & others. Especially now with teams crunched in the West, every win matters.
Wish he said more. Good for Vanvleet. Ref should be investigated
Freddy is well respected league wide ... he is well spoken and thoughtful with his answers ...Greenie making him out to be the villain here
The refs should be like mimes. Definitely hard to make calls now a days but the techs now are ridiculous. In the 90's you would have to punch someone out for a tech lmao.
That's the NBA you want??
Recently saw video of a HS game in which a girl's mom told her to hit an opponent after being "disrespected" (scored on).
Scene was like a linebacker punching a tomato....
But sure, "people come to see the players, so why even have rules, just worship players".
Fred was premeditated? What about the ref? So what I’m getting from this is it’s always ok for a ref to target a player, do it multiple times- enough to where it causes issues but as soon as that player responds to defend himself and clarify how it’s an issue then there’s a repercussion and the league simply needs to “back its refs” regardless.
Apt analysis there guys
Genuine question: What if players were to be extremely sarcastic about how great a ref was? Would they still get fined? Like what if Fred said, "I thought Ben Taylor was the greatest ref ever tonight, he deserves so much praise for how good he was"
It is time for A.i. refs in the major leagues. They can be programmed to make the proper call every time. Machines don't have feelings so emotions are eliminated out of officiating.
Bro thank you for posting this I was about to say the same thing. Tired of these stupid refs ruining the game of basketball.
Even if it's AI refs, as long as the league is in charge and sports betting is a thing, they will be rigging games to line their pockets.
Brian had such a bad take on this 😭😭 he sound like a ref
They're orchestrating the Lakers comeback season really well
Being an NBA referee is a Job. They should be evaluated and criticized just like a player would be.
As a Raptors fan I truly believe the Clippers deserved that win the other night. They just had it together better. That aside Fred HAD to say this. What happened with Ben Taylor wasn't even the most egregious incident for the team with an official THIS WEEK.
How did they deserve it. They got 31 to 14 more FT. Raptors shot 59 shots they missed and still lost by ONLY 8. They missed shots bc they're getting fked over and demoralized.
@suzie55 Our defense fell apart during some key stretches. I think even despite the BS officiating there were opportunities for us to put them away that we didn't capitalize on. But I see what you're saying, the free throw disparity was pretty significant here, that definitely played a part.
No they didn't Raptors were the aggressor & were pkaying well to start the game then the refs start calling ticky tacky fouks in Q2 which led to 12 fts & Clips back in the game. Raps took 53 FGA in the paint but ended up getting 14FTA . Of the 14 5 came with 2 mins in the game to make it seems like the ifficiaying was fair. Clios had 31 FTA but only 38 FGA in the paint. Typically if you attempt that much FGAin the paint it resulrs in more FTA.
@@mollyweir9350 Just read the above comments, I'm not about to reply to everyone
@@SpaderB13 You are really talking on 2 sides of your mouth. Fans like you are why other team's fan base clown us. Did you watch the entire gm? We have been screwed over thus season in particular more than any team in the league. That's a fact. It was a build up for FVV. Nothing was been done behind the scene to address it & he felt he had no other alternative. Go & listen again to his post game interview as well as the one after practice yesterday.
This is pent up frustration for FVV and the Raptors thanks to Foster’s bang up job in Denver.
Speaking as someone who was watching the league at the time Greenberg insists on referring to, that has nothing to do with anything being discussed right now unless you want to take about superstar calls from that era & how it seems that is no longer a thing
Fred speaking TRUTH!
The point that Windhorse missing is HE DOESN'T HAVE A REPUTATION of doing this or getting altercation with refs, good job Fred!
Windhorse, hahaha
My mind moves slow when KP talks
They definitely told on students in class. They really mad he didn’t get fined more. Not even talking about the bad calls. They be putting lames on the biggest shows smh
Us fans its time to take a stand against the man! Players coaches everyone lets gather together and seize the opportunity!
People dollars are spent on players, teams and the league brand per se. You only need the ref SO THE GAME CAN FLOW and be managed.. they’re only necessary when they’re doing they’re job correctly.
Refs shouldnt be giving this much power at all. If anyone should be giving power its us the fans
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I've never understood players not taking the fine, obviously no one wants to lose money like that, but 30k is nothing to these guys and I'm sure losing .0004% of your contract is well worth getting a tighter whistle
How is a 2 minute report punishment for referees? Where is the fines for them? Where is the suspensions?
I think the refs should be able to criticize the players for the flopping they do
Soft take
I bet you tell on people
Huge L ezee
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@@elliotschendel5211 your mother don’t think I’m soft
My thing is how many time did Perkins say 'my thing is'? 😂 Seriously, good for FVV.
Fred aimed at Ben Taylor who gave him the most T's this season. This is a more effective communication. You don't want to throw every ref under the bus, but if you have an issue with a particular one, BRING IT ON. We all know that general criticisms is the worst in any type of communication. Btw, if a player can be held responsible by speaking his mind (ie. being fined), then let them do it. Why can't players point out how crappy a job some of the refs have been doing? Why is that a bad thing?
Steady Freddy is not-so-steady here! 🤣
my question is how does perkins still have a job
he's a racist pea brain