The throwing the ball off the stanchion being an auto-tech is STUPID... The techs being given to ppl passing the ball normally to refs has been bizarre
@@ConspiracytardHunter420 do all players 'lightly toss'? How do you enable 'lightly tossing' but ban 'forcefully throwing'? How do you define 'lightly' vs 'forcefully'? If a VIP is hit by a ball, will the NBA defend the player because it was 'lightly tossed' and not 'forcefully thrown'? How do you navigate how a player interprets 'lightly' vs 'forcefully', ie someone like Embiid vs a small PG?
@@engerlandt based on that logic, the nba needs to push the courtside seats back a good 20-30 feet. who sits around the court? No more running fast, gentlemen!
Clapping is not 'incessant complaining.' It's a fine way to get frustration out without crossing a line. This is a clear example of a ref being overly sensitive and turning the attention away from the players and the game. Whatever lead up to it is irrelevant. It was the wrong call. We're all getting really sick of ref ball in the NBA. It's not a problem at any other level of basketball.
yea they act like players cant have a harmless outlet for their frustrations. it's def an ego crap from the refs, almost like cops going "respect my authoritah!"
Besides that, he could easily argue he was clapping to show support for the aggressive defense. I’ve seen my teammates react like that for this exact reason. If you feel like the ‘incessant complaining’ deserves a tech, hand it over on something that is undeniably a complaint. And even better: warn the players their complaining has reached its limit. Like @ThaDream_13_ said in another comment, the rules benefit the refs, allowing for mood swing decisions like that, and punish players for having feelings and getting frustrated.
Same with throwing the ball against the stanchion. I wonder what the NBA’s justification is for such aggressive technical fouls. Are they afraid if they don’t call them more fighting will ensue?
The classic my uneducated opinion with no basis means the same as your opinion that has well researched and documented evidence. I think every single player could complain without evidence, and I would still side with Coach Nick here since hes the ONLY one in this imaginary scenario that has brought evidence to the table.
@@kingjaydex7464 it wouldn't matter but we'll never know because the refs have giant egos and consistently make bad calls. A lot are fine but certain ones should just be fired for sucking ass at their job like foster
Absolutely, Coach looked right past a lot of calls, none calls that others pointed out for him, not sure why. No comment of the impact of timing either. Throwing the most impactful player out with 30ish seconds left in a one possession game because he can, forgetting that he shouldn’t.
Exactly. I mean human make mistakes, but the evidence of referee's failures are mounting. Fred VanVleet just exposed the NBA's biggest problem, watch it here: th-cam.com/video/AFs4QKmwpYA/w-d-xo.html
Literally not. He points out that refs miss calls numerous times. He's just stating the facts. And if the players have a problem with the rules they should complain towards the NBA and not the refs.
When someone is putting things into context to make a statement you disagree with, and your reaction to accuse him of being bias with bringing up your own contexts for that logic, then honestly maybe your bias and/or stretching the point he's tryna make
Naw that's crazy dawg and what's crazier is the people who clearly don't care about human lives always defending that shit 😂😂 like bruh we get it you don't value humans but we human and we do go back to your lonely bedroom
@@viktorgrabovski520 knee to nuts can be an offensive foul independent of restricted area... there are exceptions to the no offensive foul rule, otherwise I could slap people in the restricted area... i agree though, that a no call is fine, however no way in hell is that a defensive foul like coach claims
did this dude really sit hear and say fred is complaining out of frustration of the raptors losing record?? coach have you not been watching the calls this years season at all for any game besides the ones fred's complaining about?
You should try it too sometime. I promise if you were more familiar with the rules, you’d understand NBA Refs don’t miss near as many calls as you think they do.
When you take your time and look at what actually happens you get the full story. Just because it doesn’t validate VanVleet’s complaints doesn’t mean its prop.
For once, I disagree with your analysis. You picked Vanvleet on the last games, because he singled out one ref. But refing is really getting bad throughout the NBA. The number of errors, missed calls, ... is getting really out of hand. It's not against one player or even one team, they just can't do it as well as they used too. I guess players and lovers of the game (not of the show) have to get used to it. I thought it was nice that one player speak up for once.
I don’t think this is true dude. You have no context of how reffing was in the 80’s, 90’s or even 2000’s. Now with social media every bad call gets blown out of proportion. I would wager that NBA refs are right probably 80~90% of the time. Don’t forget basketball is a naturally hard sport to officiate because there’s so many 50/50 situations
@@thecanmanification Well, I'm old enough to remember really well 80s NBA and the following years unfortunatly. But I agree 100% with your social media stance and on the fact that they are mostly right (I even would say more than 90% of the time). I'm just thinking that the game is getting faster and faster and refs are just overcomed by the pace and the athleticism of the players. As I said, or we have to get used to it or they might want to add help for refs in order to remove those errors.
You lost me when you blamed FVV for clapping. I mean, seriously, do you REALLY think calling techs for that is good for the game? That clapping of all things is worth that punishment? That anyone wants to actually see that being called?
He wasn’t defending the RULE on clapping being a Tech. He was stating that is the rule (whether we like it or not), and players who do it can expect a Tech. Refs on the court don’t make the rules. Their job is to enforce the rules. That’s literally why they are there. Can’t get mad at them for enforcing a rule you don’t like.
@@jcclark1515 if we’re going to be THAT stringent then it should be called every time, and we know that’s not the case. As was said in the video, there’s a level of judgment required in these calls, so it’s not entirely just a matter of following the rules. There IS room for refs to NOT make these calls.
You know what’s interesting? Most of the people I know, who have actually taken the time to read basketball rulebooks for themselves, and/or speak directly with refs about officiating systems, tend to have a much less negative opinion of refs than those who haven’t. Weird huh? They tend to realize that refs miss way less calls than most players or fans think (bc they know the rules). As a result, they get labeled as ref sympathizers by people who don’t know what they don’t know.
@@jcclark1515 that’s not my point. I actually watch pages on instagram dedicated to highlighting the rules and showing that refs don’t miss as many calls as people say. But he CLEARLY has ref bias. The temperament of these refs nowadays is ridiculous. They are power hungry and move like dictators. We’ve ALL seen the refs be ridiculous over the past 5-10 years with technicals and ejections. They don’t let players show any true emotion and at the same time they show too much emotion with quick techs and unreasonable ejections bc their ego gets hurt.
I think he's going through pragmatically looking at what's a good call, what's questionable, and what's a bad call. He favors the ref because he isn't being an emotional child? Did we watch the same video?
@@bballbreakdown Thanks for the reply coach Nick. I like your content especially with Ronnie Nunn - I would LOVE to hear his opinion. I stand with you - any other day.
@@mosstwig3591can you imagine Rus coming out and being like "Yeah they were kinda hoeing FVV ngl" ? No because they won. Eventually the clippers will likely also be getting hit with something similar In terms of fouls
I mean free throw attempts should never be a scale of how terrible the game was being officiated. Fred VanVleet just exposed the NBA's biggest problem, watch it here: th-cam.com/video/AFs4QKmwpYA/w-d-xo.html
I think broadcasts and analysts more clearly communicating why fouls are fouls would help a lot. A lot of crews have too much homerism and gripe as well, which creates bad perception.
Oh, definitely. In my hypothetical, they would bother to learn the rule. That’s the problem right now. They see their player go through contact and it always should be a foul. They see their player complain and it should never be a foul. That poisons the well with fans.
Their analysis are 80% biased for their teams. Fred VanVleet just exposed the NBA's biggest problem, watch it here: th-cam.com/video/AFs4QKmwpYA/w-d-xo.html
The Raptors broadcast team is usually pretty decent with that (as far as I can see compared to other "home" commentaries), namingly Jack Armstrong who won't hesitate to say "that's a good call" when they show slo-mo replays on a hard-to-see play.
What was bad about it? He did research, broke down plays and talked about what was happening in the game. Isn't this the type of thing he usually does? Or are you made because he doesn't get emotional talking about refs like everyone else?
The logic of this video was very poor. If Ben Taylor is receptive to other players and coaches but not to Fred then he is correct in saying the ref has it out for him. The lack of consistency of calls in context is an issue. I don't typically leave comments on basketball videos but this one is pretty egregious in defending one of the worst refs in the league as far as personally going after players goes.
@@bballbreakdown Yes, I saw at 8 minutes he didn't give him an instant T for once, while you justified the other techs based on the "continuous criticism" rule. I don't disagree that refs are able to give technicals based on their interpretation of the rules, the question is whether or not they are abusing this ability to target certain players. Which statistically and based on what I see during games seems to be the case for Ben Taylor with Fred.
@@darrengordon-hill Lol Punches in the face deserves ejection, not whispering under your breathe or privately acknowledging teammates. Are we pretending superstars and players share fair calls? What’s your team LA? You must be from a privileged franchise and have no clue what everyone else is sayin? So we’re gonna arrest random shoppers for being suspicious? Smarten up, you know what’s up, it’s no secret.
I see the rules, and the calls are fair. But rules-wise, why should players be punished for situational awareness when refs aren’t. The rules give refs discretion to make calls based on getting fed up (emotions) but not players the same leniency for clapping or (rarely) making a face.
Good luck grounding your parents... Customers are free to complain... But when they start cursing at the staff, managers are more inclined to side with their employees... weird how that works... Ref misses call - You accuse him of "having money on the game". NOT JUST "human error" but calling into question the integrity of the game A company selling you a faulty appliance =/= them scamming you. Sometimes accidents happen - quality companies do right by their customers. You shout at the delivery guy - it might have arrived to him faulty; that's why you don't address it with emotion.
@Sports Entertainer "IF" "feel" Foster hasn't given FVV 3 techs. How is this proof "He hates him"? Video details calls going know his favour too... Video shoes him complaining DESPITE his team getting the call...
@@raymondpei1227 Does the crew chief manipulate the other refs like dolls on strings? What is delusional about coach Nick said? Please share ideas instead of trying to put people down.
One major thing to point out. FVV said that a majority of his technicals came in games that Ben Taylor refereed in, not from Ben Taylor. Which is true. 5/8 came in a game with Ben Taylor officiating. Ben Taylor has also referred 6 raptors games and FVV has had at least one tech in 4 of them. So 4/6 (67%) rate of a getting a tech in a Ben Taylor game versus 3/50 (6%) in non-Ben Taylor officiated games. If you don't see a clear statistical bias you're either not looking at the facts or being purposefully misleading.
Bro your clearly gaslighting probably subconsciously, your not taking into account that it is fvv's fault for all of those techs and that the NBA rules even supports it as coach said in the video. Coach even shown us that Ben Taylor is one of the fair refs... What fvv's said was right however that's mostly his own doing and he can't get mad at them for that. And the fact that you are spreading that false narrative shows that you not only didn't listen to coach at all but definitely had this thought already made and kept it
In this video, Coach Nick even showed examples of Ben being very receptive & reasonable with FVV. Refs don’t have it out for players like so many fans misguidedly think they do. If players are reasonable & respectful with refs, that will be returned to them. Pretty simple.
I think the anger comes from constant tikitac calls being made against the raptors in critical moments especially when other teams that do the same things go uncalled because they have star players.
nah kawhi clearly knee’d him on that dunk like marbury used too.. they would call offensive foul on marbury sometimes. that wasnt a defensive foul forsure
@@bballbreakdown yet you called it an obvious defensive foul… I don’t know man this video seemed a little biased and you saying this but then saying what u said in the video makes it seem even more so
Very disappointed. 9:41 ben taylor clearly elbowed fred. Tony brothers is absolutely notorious in raps game. This has been going on for years and has accumulated since. I don't blame the raps and freddy.
I realize you probably won’t be receptive to this, but nevertheless I’ll give it a try… FVV was arguing with Ben during that dead ball when the ball was being thrown to Ben. Ben was trying to catch the ball to get ready to administer the ensuing throw-in, and FVV reached in front of Ben to intercept the ball. It wasn’t Ben elbowing FVV. It was him trying to keep FVV from interfering with the ball.
Tony Brothers is notorious for getting bad calls on both teams. Man is just a stupid ref. Fred VanVleet just exposed the NBA's biggest problem, watch it here: th-cam.com/video/AFs4QKmwpYA/w-d-xo.html
@@jcclark1515 nah, he threw an elbow. The onus is on the ref to make sure doesn't make contact with a player in that particular situation. Nice contradicting story, tho.
yea dame defo fouled siakam on that play first you cant yank on someone's arm like that and pass it off as "two players scrumming for the ball" and give a flagrant for siakam doing the same thing to dame's leg and its not reasonable to ignore a clear foul
This video is just shameless Ref propaganda. It really discredits your integrity. Fred is right. Refs are too delicate these days and of course there is an element of bias…they are human after all. Additionally players should be able to express frustrations or the game turns stale and devoid of emotion. They are competitors after all.
He may be wrong on the officiating of this particular game, but his points are very valid, and a lot of the players and fans have been complaining about soft techs this year. The rules may allow it, but that doesn't mean ANYONE is gonna be happy to see one of the best players on the court leave the game because he did something emotional while playing sports. It actually sucks to see players not reacting to stuff on court. Not to talk about the plain out bogus techs, like Tatum clapping out of frustration about himself. At that point, the rule need some level of change.
If you wanna show emotions, go and be an actor, play in movies. I support the no emotion policy of NBA. When it comes to expressing, all players say they are tough. But in reality, almost all of them are emotionally soft. Emotional weakness should not be tolerated.
@@Viqtor anything about emotions should be penalized and not tolerated. Think it like a doctor getting emotional when he is doing an operation. Would you want his emotions to affect his profession? No, right? The same thing applies to NBA. They are professional players. They have responsibilities and obligations. They can control their urges. If they can’t, NBA will find other players who can.
damn, i concorde, you obviously don't watch many raptor games, must be frustrating for sure to loose, but he is happy with the situation in toronto, this stuff have been happening for years, and in comparation with more "popular" teams it's just obnoxious to watch
The refs are not the biggest problem, it's the rules. It is almost impossible to officiate an NBA game as the rules are favoring the offensive players and the players are using it every single possesion. I watched Luka against the suns, every fucking possesion he was either drawing a foul or complaining to the refs he should get one. In my opinion it is ugly to watch a superstar behave like that and it ruins the game. But it works because of the rules...
omg the third quarter too much for me. Started hating Luka as a mavs fan after that one. But I agree. The Refs are taking too much of the spotlight because the rules are too tight. That puts them under pressure.
Your ref slurping is getting out of control. Scott foster is so mad about it because its true, maybe not everyone but tht scumbag was definitely involved with donaghy and has an extensive history of awful calls and bias against teams and players
@BBALLBREAKDOWN haha well you are right about that, I wouldn't expect him not get t'd but I just find it ironic and hilarious that it occurred with Scott of all people. There's tons of receipts on foster.
I agree with coach on his explanation but I also agree with VanVleet that some of the technicals being called are ridiculous I strongly believe that if the NBA is going to fine players for criticizing the officials then they need to start holding the officials accountable as well for their actions
@@remydon2391 I understand that. But the obvious calls that get reviewed and they still get it wrong affects the game. There should be a fine for that. This happened in an NBA game and NBA apologized but nothing was done to the refs
@5:50 Rare BBALLBREAKDOWN L, "But more importantly, Barnes cannot be talking like this in such a crucial part of the game. Should it have been a technical foul and not an ejection? Maybe." NAH bro it should have been a technical foul AT MOST. Barnes is talking like what? he wasn't even "excessively complaining"
How come Lebron James didn’t get a tech for the way he reacted on the court after Jason Tatum fouled him? And what about Scottie Barnes being thrown out after one tech and for what reason? NBA has double standards.
Love the little shoutout to Jack Armstrong. He's one of the very best, doesn't hold back and has a wealth of basketball experience. Learned a lot about the game from him!
Bball do you have any relationship with anyone close or refs in the nba. Because it sure seems you like taking their sides all the time no matter what.
7:38 FVV maybe have had his hand on Kawhi but DEFINITELY not enough for to push him. Kawhi moved forward and then tried to pull back when FVV was there making him off balance because his upper body was leaning backward but on his toes. Then moved the ball the other side to avoid the swipe completing him falling backwards.
@@bballbreakdownThe Kawhi dunk on Poeltl is clearly an offensive foul. He knees him in the groin. I have seen that called flagrant 1 multiple times this year. I get your perspective but when 3 of your examples are bad you lose credibility. Fred on Kawhi, Kawhi dunk, and Dame fouling Siakam are bad examples. Do better!
@@wentman @Wentworth Willock guy... Poetls foot was in the restricted area. Meaning he's not allowed to be there. You lose all credibility. That's basketball basics. Do better.
The challenge system shows how incompetent a lot of these referees are. That's why the NBA keeps Challenges limit to only one despite coaches getting their challenge correct
wait there is far more context to that really annoying denver game for Toronto. We have been fk over many times by refs cuz we aren't one of the fave teams to win the chip. other fans of other teams can also agree to this and no mention of Tony Brothers? who is notorious for ruining raptors games for YEARS
The NBA has become an increasingly unwatchable ref's league. Bounce the ball off the stanchion, get a tech. Clap, get a tech. Look at a ref wrong, get a tech. Bounce the ball to the ref wrong, get a tech. Wave your arms, get a tech. Raise your voice, get a tech. For years, the NFL has been jokingly referred to as the "No Fun League" but it seems more and more like the the NBA are determined to claim that title. Whether Coach likes it or not, FVV is simply saying what increasing numbers of NBA fans have already started to call out: NBA officiating has become more about the refs than the players.
You're really stretching on alot of these clips, if you watched the clippers and nuggets game you would've seen the plays that really triggered these reactions. Yall got to see the gilbert arenas podcast these refs are so sensitive.
As gilbert arenas said, refs are supposed to be emotionless and impartial. The second they show emotion or become butthurt because of something a player says they should stop reffing. but no way should they ref and tell players they should not be emotional.
I don't think you're on either side of an argument of players vs refs, but trying to make a whole video playing devils advocate for these terrible ref crews is a pretty rare miss for this channel. looking forward to the next vid still but I wouldn't sit through another one of these lame ref pity parties
Yes, it's a big L because it doesn't conform perfectly to your world views. Let's just ignore that he put a lot of time and research figuring what made Fred angry, his history with Ben Taylor, and breaking down plays, and say it's an L because emotional fans like to bash refs and they can't stand when someone says they are fine.
I love how every time a Raptors player “makes contact” its an obvious foul but whenever our opponents “make contact” theres some bullshit explanation why its not a foul. “Theres no evidence to say that the Raptors are being penalized more than the Clippers” yeah man a 31-14 FT disparity when its a 6 point game with under 2 min left yeah Im sure that didn’t play a role. And people wonder why we hate on refs and media so much. Lmao. Such an insane double standard. If were letting every marginal thing go cool. If were calling everything like its 2023 cool. Just let it go both ways. Its kinda hard not to complain when in 49 min of game time your opponents shoot 40 FTs and you shoot 18 then you give us techs for complaining about an absolutely ridiculous disparity? Nah we aint gonna sit down and just take it were gonna say something about it. The games where Fred got techs that you referenced in this video our opponents shot 95 FTs to our 70 and the Hawks game we lost by 2 in OT with a -10 disparity. We have a right to complain
@@milktank8338 and the fact that the ref gets that mad because Barnes said the word "cheating" makes me laugh. They are really that sensitive even when everybody in the world knew the refs were dirty. Besides, Barnes might not even be referring to the scandal.
This statement makes no sense. He made a video breaking down various calls throughout the Raptors season, what Fred was made about and whether or gave his analysis of the call. Do you know what "narrative" means? It doesn't mean "story I don't like". Please learn how some vocabulary and quit mimicking things athletes say in press conferences.
you can't target vanfleet and rag on his reactions then casually bring up "he's one my favorite players" lol when clearly there's an issue w/ the reffing in games across the league. also, 6:05 is a BS take imo, what you mean you can't be talking like that? you really expect players (humans) not be at a higher emotional state towards the end of a game?
Ur logic is off this video. Always defending the refs and ignoring obvious signs, and saying 50/50 calls are obvious calls, always defending the refs. Yes not every call Fred complained about was a bad call but many were and you also failed to include many of those and cherry picked some videos
The throwing the ball off the stanchion being an auto-tech is STUPID... The techs being given to ppl passing the ball normally to refs has been bizarre
Ever consider the consequences if a player throws a ball at the stanchion and misses? Who sits around a stanchion?
@@engerlandt bro lightly tossed it lol, pls
@@ConspiracytardHunter420 do all players 'lightly toss'? How do you enable 'lightly tossing' but ban 'forcefully throwing'? How do you define 'lightly' vs 'forcefully'? If a VIP is hit by a ball, will the NBA defend the player because it was 'lightly tossed' and not 'forcefully thrown'? How do you navigate how a player interprets 'lightly' vs 'forcefully', ie someone like Embiid vs a small PG?
@@engerlandt based on that logic, the nba needs to push the courtside seats back a good 20-30 feet. who sits around the court? No more running fast, gentlemen!
@@engerlandt Also, how do you define "lightly" vs "forcefully"? With your eyes, dingus
Clapping is not 'incessant complaining.' It's a fine way to get frustration out without crossing a line. This is a clear example of a ref being overly sensitive and turning the attention away from the players and the game. Whatever lead up to it is irrelevant. It was the wrong call. We're all getting really sick of ref ball in the NBA. It's not a problem at any other level of basketball.
yea they act like players cant have a harmless outlet for their frustrations. it's def an ego crap from the refs, almost like cops going "respect my authoritah!"
In fact there's a lot of players complaining this year even bets
Besides that, he could easily argue he was clapping to show support for the aggressive defense. I’ve seen my teammates react like that for this exact reason. If you feel like the ‘incessant complaining’ deserves a tech, hand it over on something that is undeniably a complaint.
And even better: warn the players their complaining has reached its limit. Like @ThaDream_13_ said in another comment, the rules benefit the refs, allowing for mood swing decisions like that, and punish players for having feelings and getting frustrated.
It’s not a problem because high school and college players aren’t spoiled privileged divas like NBA players aren’t nowadays
Same with throwing the ball against the stanchion. I wonder what the NBA’s justification is for such aggressive technical fouls. Are they afraid if they don’t call them more fighting will ensue?
Coach, blink twice if you’re being held against your will.
LOL
Blink twice if you’ve never played basketball at any level higher than church league.
@@keithtorrence2487 *Blinks four times*
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@@youtubewatcher4955 you do not miss 🤣🤣common Keith L
What’s about all the players supporting what he said? He’s not just complaining about nonsense he’s saying what everyone else wasn’t
It's always the same players complaining about the refs. Just keep it moving.
Because players are whiny. The truth is that no matter how good the refereeing is players are always going to complain when it doesn't go their way
People tend to agree with anything that pushes their agenda whether if it is right or wrong
The classic my uneducated opinion with no basis means the same as your opinion that has well researched and documented evidence. I think every single player could complain without evidence, and I would still side with Coach Nick here since hes the ONLY one in this imaginary scenario that has brought evidence to the table.
@@kingjaydex7464 it wouldn't matter but we'll never know because the refs have giant egos and consistently make bad calls. A lot are fine but certain ones should just be fired for sucking ass at their job like foster
Coach is shilling for the refs hard with this video. It's easy to cherry pick clips that will support your opinion and ignore the ones that don't.
Absolutely, Coach looked right past a lot of calls, none calls that others pointed out for him, not sure why. No comment of the impact of timing either. Throwing the most impactful player out with 30ish seconds left in a one possession game because he can, forgetting that he shouldn’t.
Exactly. I mean human make mistakes, but the evidence of referee's failures are mounting. Fred VanVleet just exposed the NBA's biggest problem, watch it here: th-cam.com/video/AFs4QKmwpYA/w-d-xo.html
100% agree. Unsubscribed after watching this
He was just tiring to show examples on why FVV thought he was terrible
I also thought an ad for gambling for this video was kind of funny... lol
Oh coach, this is a mistake
It's trendy to hate the refs. Maybe someday you'll grow out of it and just watch the game without getting emotional.
Adam Silver must be sponsoring this channel.
Tbh this video kinda seems like ref propaganda. Giving the refs the benefit of the doubt every time.
Coach Nick does get a spotlight from the NBA. Probably got a call from the NBA to put out a "3rd party" perspective.
It is absolutely a propaganda video. A cheap one at that.
Literally not. He points out that refs miss calls numerous times.
He's just stating the facts. And if the players have a problem with the rules they should complain towards the NBA and not the refs.
When someone is putting things into context to make a statement you disagree with, and your reaction to accuse him of being bias with bringing up your own contexts for that logic, then honestly maybe your bias and/or stretching the point he's tryna make
Yeah definitely could of found a lot of questionable calls but only picked out clear fouls he argued about (probably because of the last call)
I am being gaslit this entire video
10:01 How Poeltl is supposed to defend with Leonard knee in his nuts?
i really don't understand how this isn't an offensive foul.
Don't stand in the restricted zone and set a screen instead of going up on a dunk you can't contest?
@@viktorgrabovski520 offensive foul regardless
Naw that's crazy dawg and what's crazier is the people who clearly don't care about human lives always defending that shit 😂😂 like bruh we get it you don't value humans but we human and we do go back to your lonely bedroom
@@viktorgrabovski520 knee to nuts can be an offensive foul independent of restricted area... there are exceptions to the no offensive foul rule, otherwise I could slap people in the restricted area... i agree though, that a no call is fine, however no way in hell is that a defensive foul like coach claims
did this dude really sit hear and say fred is complaining out of frustration of the raptors losing record?? coach have you not been watching the calls this years season at all for any game besides the ones fred's complaining about?
Nothing but positive things to say about the refs from Coach Nick as per usual. Disappointing.
He’s an agent obviously
You should try it too sometime. I promise if you were more familiar with the rules, you’d understand NBA Refs don’t miss near as many calls as you think they do.
what if the refs are just trying their best?
He’s on payroll
Yeah because he's wrong for trying to put their context into perspective
Damn, coach Nick. You the head of the referees union?
He isn’t but he always Ronnie nun on so he might be biased
He gave a logical analysis, its pretty clear it wasnt on the refs
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@@linooo8137 YES! He was objective, so props to him. He explained the rules well.
@@jdapaul1351 he ignores so much, and even defends Scott foster who's arguably the shittiest and most blatantly biased ref in the league
This channel is pure referee propaganda
it's the main amount of guests he gets on the channel and get bash reds
When you take your time and look at what actually happens you get the full story. Just because it doesn’t validate VanVleet’s complaints doesn’t mean its prop.
@@oldthug2309 no this channel is ref propaganda
@@arnoldjacob5711 Nope
@@oldthug2309 yup 🤡🤡
For once, I disagree with your analysis. You picked Vanvleet on the last games, because he singled out one ref. But refing is really getting bad throughout the NBA. The number of errors, missed calls, ... is getting really out of hand. It's not against one player or even one team, they just can't do it as well as they used too. I guess players and lovers of the game (not of the show) have to get used to it. I thought it was nice that one player speak up for once.
I don’t think this is true dude. You have no context of how reffing was in the 80’s, 90’s or even 2000’s. Now with social media every bad call gets blown out of proportion. I would wager that NBA refs are right probably 80~90% of the time.
Don’t forget basketball is a naturally hard sport to officiate because there’s so many 50/50 situations
@@thecanmanification Well, I'm old enough to remember really well 80s NBA and the following years unfortunatly. But I agree 100% with your social media stance and on the fact that they are mostly right (I even would say more than 90% of the time). I'm just thinking that the game is getting faster and faster and refs are just overcomed by the pace and the athleticism of the players. As I said, or we have to get used to it or they might want to add help for refs in order to remove those errors.
@@thecanmanification well REMEMBER THE CELTIC BOSTON AND LAKERS MISS CALL FROM LEBRON AND YOU KNOW THERE IDIOT CALLS FROM REF !!
Dead fucking ass
If any season feels rigged it’s this one. It’s like they want every game to be close offensively
You lost me when you blamed FVV for clapping. I mean, seriously, do you REALLY think calling techs for that is good for the game? That clapping of all things is worth that punishment? That anyone wants to actually see that being called?
He wasn’t defending the RULE on clapping being a Tech. He was stating that is the rule (whether we like it or not), and players who do it can expect a Tech. Refs on the court don’t make the rules. Their job is to enforce the rules. That’s literally why they are there. Can’t get mad at them for enforcing a rule you don’t like.
@@jcclark1515 if we’re going to be THAT stringent then it should be called every time, and we know that’s not the case. As was said in the video, there’s a level of judgment required in these calls, so it’s not entirely just a matter of following the rules. There IS room for refs to NOT make these calls.
Nah you trippin coach
I appreciated what he said. He was being real. Obviously it won’t help but it’s authentic.
Refs are becoming part of the game. No one pay to see them.
how u watch all this and still say that? authentically wrong maybe 🤣
@@chardrive I think he talking about Fred
Why is it only cursing is called "authentic/real"?
Why is it only (half) blacks are described this way?
@@darrengordon-hill bruh shut up I think we all had enough of people like you babbling on the internet
I like your channel usually but you ALWAYS favor the ref! You’re very bias when it comes to referee conversations.
Exactly! All those ridiculous calls in all the games, he picked these few calls to make his case.
You know what’s interesting? Most of the people I know, who have actually taken the time to read basketball rulebooks for themselves, and/or speak directly with refs about officiating systems, tend to have a much less negative opinion of refs than those who haven’t. Weird huh? They tend to realize that refs miss way less calls than most players or fans think (bc they know the rules). As a result, they get labeled as ref sympathizers by people who don’t know what they don’t know.
@@jcclark1515 that’s not my point. I actually watch pages on instagram dedicated to highlighting the rules and showing that refs don’t miss as many calls as people say. But he CLEARLY has ref bias. The temperament of these refs nowadays is ridiculous. They are power hungry and move like dictators. We’ve ALL seen the refs be ridiculous over the past 5-10 years with technicals and ejections. They don’t let players show any true emotion and at the same time they show too much emotion with quick techs and unreasonable ejections bc their ego gets hurt.
I think he's going through pragmatically looking at what's a good call, what's questionable, and what's a bad call. He favors the ref because he isn't being an emotional child? Did we watch the same video?
Its why i stopped taking this page serious over a year ago. He weirdly caters
We stand with FVV.
I mean, he’s on my favorite players list so I’m with you
@@bballbreakdown no u not u throating the refs meat LOL
@@bballbreakdown Thanks for the reply coach Nick. I like your content especially with Ronnie Nunn - I would LOVE to hear his opinion. I stand with you - any other day.
@@bballbreakdown nah you were sucking the refs off on this one
No disrespect but it sounds like you'd do that regardless
The clippers shot 31 free throws this game while the raptors shot 14. There is some credibility to what Fred was saying.
Wasn't bitching when they had 34 free throws to Pistons 14 back in February.
@@mosstwig3591 at least it adds to list of games with queationable ref's judgement
@@mosstwig3591No one will call out the refs If theyre getting double the free throws
@@mosstwig3591can you imagine Rus coming out and being like "Yeah they were kinda hoeing FVV ngl" ? No because they won. Eventually the clippers will likely also be getting hit with something similar In terms of fouls
I mean free throw attempts should never be a scale of how terrible the game was being officiated. Fred VanVleet just exposed the NBA's biggest problem, watch it here: th-cam.com/video/AFs4QKmwpYA/w-d-xo.html
He literally passed over all the calls in question and just showed the obvious fouls lmfao😂😂
Which plays? I obviously can’t cover every single possession of each game but I went thru as much as I could that was directly relatedn
@@bballbreakdown I legit started to question your bball iq watching this video
@@bballbreakdown Big L.
That's funny. I swear Coach asked "which plays?" But none of the mouth-breathers seem able to provide any examples 🤷♂️
@@benfrank1564 I think the foul against Poeltl against Gordon that got Barnes ejected was sketchy.
I think broadcasts and analysts more clearly communicating why fouls are fouls would help a lot. A lot of crews have too much homerism and gripe as well, which creates bad perception.
I would not trust 90% of commentators and analysts regarding the rules of basketball. They couldn't be bothered to learn them.
Oh, definitely. In my hypothetical, they would bother to learn the rule. That’s the problem right now. They see their player go through contact and it always should be a foul. They see their player complain and it should never be a foul. That poisons the well with fans.
Their analysis are 80% biased for their teams. Fred VanVleet just exposed the NBA's biggest problem, watch it here: th-cam.com/video/AFs4QKmwpYA/w-d-xo.html
some of them are pretty fair like the former players. but for the most part there may be a little home team bias from the announcers
The Raptors broadcast team is usually pretty decent with that (as far as I can see compared to other "home" commentaries), namingly Jack Armstrong who won't hesitate to say "that's a good call" when they show slo-mo replays on a hard-to-see play.
ive been watching this channel for 7 years now, and this has to be the worst video ever made by coach
You spelled “the best” wrong
What was bad about it? He did research, broke down plays and talked about what was happening in the game. Isn't this the type of thing he usually does? Or are you made because he doesn't get emotional talking about refs like everyone else?
I bet you 1000% coach got sponsored by the NBA for this episode hahahaha
Here comes another interview with former ref video.
Nah this aint it.
Big L from coach. You simp the refs so hard
The logic of this video was very poor. If Ben Taylor is receptive to other players and coaches but not to Fred then he is correct in saying the ref has it out for him. The lack of consistency of calls in context is an issue. I don't typically leave comments on basketball videos but this one is pretty egregious in defending one of the worst refs in the league as far as personally going after players goes.
But I showed how he patiently discussed calls with FVV. Did u miss that part of the video??
@@bballbreakdown Yes, I saw at 8 minutes he didn't give him an instant T for once, while you justified the other techs based on the "continuous criticism" rule. I don't disagree that refs are able to give technicals based on their interpretation of the rules, the question is whether or not they are abusing this ability to target certain players. Which statistically and based on what I see during games seems to be the case for Ben Taylor with Fred.
@@bballbreakdown We’ve seen players complain in a more egregious way without getting techs which makes it obvious to fans reputation matters.
@JackFancy
So... you want ZERO techs til a ref is punched in the face??
I can't arrest a shop lifter cos not all bank robbers have been caught???
@@darrengordon-hill Lol Punches in the face deserves ejection, not whispering under your breathe or privately acknowledging teammates. Are we pretending superstars and players share fair calls? What’s your team LA? You must be from a privileged franchise and have no clue what everyone else is sayin? So we’re gonna arrest random shoppers for being suspicious? Smarten up, you know what’s up, it’s no secret.
this might be your worst video
I see the rules, and the calls are fair.
But rules-wise, why should players be punished for situational awareness when refs aren’t. The rules give refs discretion to make calls based on getting fed up (emotions) but not players the same leniency for clapping or (rarely) making a face.
Exactly
Well said. Very interesting point
Good luck grounding your parents...
Customers are free to complain...
But when they start cursing at the staff, managers are more inclined to side with their employees... weird how that works...
Ref misses call - You accuse him of "having money on the game".
NOT JUST "human error" but calling into question the integrity of the game
A company selling you a faulty appliance =/= them scamming you.
Sometimes accidents happen - quality companies do right by their customers.
You shout at the delivery guy - it might have arrived to him faulty; that's why you don't address it with emotion.
@Sports Entertainer
"IF"
"feel"
Foster hasn't given FVV 3 techs.
How is this proof "He hates him"?
Video details calls going know his favour too...
Video shoes him complaining DESPITE his team getting the call...
@@darrengordon-hill One of the worst takes on anything ever. Would never want to meet you in person
Taylor gave him 3 personally the other 3 were from refs where Taylor was the lead ref.
It might seem like Taylor gave him a tech if he was the crew chief but that really has zero bearing on receiving one. Each ref is their own person
@@bballbreakdown lol don't know if you are naive or delusional
@@bballbreakdown either way Fred has 8 techs all year and Taylor has officiated only 6 raptors games; people can do the math.
@@raymondpei1227 Does the crew chief manipulate the other refs like dolls on strings? What is delusional about coach Nick said? Please share ideas instead of trying to put people down.
the refs are in your throat
Saying Fred flopping was obvious but the entire league does it and you put it on Fred
I don’t know if you knew this, but this whole video was about Fred & the Raptors, not the rest of the league. Haha
Just because the entire league does it (in your opinion) doesn’t mean that Van Vleet didn’t obviously flop.
1:09 That's Dyson Daniels, not Jaxon Hayes
😂I peeped that too
Now I want you to cherry pick ref bad calls
I'll be waiting
completely disagree with this video
One major thing to point out. FVV said that a majority of his technicals came in games that Ben Taylor refereed in, not from Ben Taylor. Which is true. 5/8 came in a game with Ben Taylor officiating. Ben Taylor has also referred 6 raptors games and FVV has had at least one tech in 4 of them. So 4/6 (67%) rate of a getting a tech in a Ben Taylor game versus 3/50 (6%) in non-Ben Taylor officiated games. If you don't see a clear statistical bias you're either not looking at the facts or being purposefully misleading.
Bro your clearly gaslighting probably subconsciously, your not taking into account that it is fvv's fault for all of those techs and that the NBA rules even supports it as coach said in the video. Coach even shown us that Ben Taylor is one of the fair refs... What fvv's said was right however that's mostly his own doing and he can't get mad at them for that. And the fact that you are spreading that false narrative shows that you not only didn't listen to coach at all but definitely had this thought already made and kept it
@@akkoismydaughter3573 Ben Taylor just got demoted by the nba…
how much did the nba pay you, to publish this video?
The thing is that Taylor can be very receptive to other players and still have it out for VanVleet. So I don't really follow Coach's logic there.
If you were in Taylor's shoes, would you react the same thing? Coach Nick explained that complaining about obvious fouls could get you in trouble.
In this video, Coach Nick even showed examples of Ben being very receptive & reasonable with FVV. Refs don’t have it out for players like so many fans misguidedly think they do. If players are reasonable & respectful with refs, that will be returned to them. Pretty simple.
There is a footage in the clip of Ben Taylor patiently talking to Fred, so to me, it's very obvious what coach is talking about.
because he has no logic and has been clearly paid to do this by the nba
So the 31 14 free throw disparity had nothing to do with why the Raptors lost huh? This ain't it chief.
It’s almost like all these sports betting sites and fantasy team sites being involved in the game is making this muddier and more questionable.
I think the anger comes from constant tikitac calls being made against the raptors in critical moments especially when other teams that do the same things go uncalled because they have star players.
Nah man i think your take and this video was terrible. Obviously you haven't watched too many Raptors game. Fred is 100% right.
exacly , was about the write similar, and been years, not even the championship run fixed that
nah kawhi clearly knee’d him on that dunk like marbury used too.. they would call offensive foul on marbury sometimes. that wasnt a defensive foul forsure
I stared at that clip 10 times and went back and forth on that. It’s a very natural move for a player to lift the non jumping leg up
@@bballbreakdown half the time, they call that same play an offensive foul when OG goes up for a dunk like that
ikr so refs r bias
@@bballbreakdown yet you called it an obvious defensive foul… I don’t know man this video seemed a little biased and you saying this but then saying what u said in the video makes it seem even more so
@BBALLBREAKDOWN so why didn't you say that.
Very disappointed. 9:41 ben taylor clearly elbowed fred. Tony brothers is absolutely notorious in raps game. This has been going on for years and has accumulated since. I don't blame the raps and freddy.
I realize you probably won’t be receptive to this, but nevertheless I’ll give it a try…
FVV was arguing with Ben during that dead ball when the ball was being thrown to Ben. Ben was trying to catch the ball to get ready to administer the ensuing throw-in, and FVV reached in front of Ben to intercept the ball. It wasn’t Ben elbowing FVV. It was him trying to keep FVV from interfering with the ball.
Tony Brothers is notorious for getting bad calls on both teams. Man is just a stupid ref. Fred VanVleet just exposed the NBA's biggest problem, watch it here: th-cam.com/video/AFs4QKmwpYA/w-d-xo.html
@@jcclark1515 nah, he threw an elbow. The onus is on the ref to make sure doesn't make contact with a player in that particular situation. Nice contradicting story, tho.
@@steve--o I respect your opinion. I disagree though.
ha ha ha! thats an elbow? wowwww. do you even lift bro?
Refs sponsored this video
yea dame defo fouled siakam on that play first you cant yank on someone's arm like that and pass it off as "two players scrumming for the ball" and give a flagrant for siakam doing the same thing to dame's leg and its not reasonable to ignore a clear foul
Yea that comment was when I realized the insane bias in this video. It’s disappointing tbh
This guys an agent
Feels like an attempt to protect the Refs
Usually like your vids coach but I can't agree with you here.
This video is just shameless Ref propaganda. It really discredits your integrity. Fred is right. Refs are too delicate these days and of course there is an element of bias…they are human after all. Additionally players should be able to express frustrations or the game turns stale and devoid of emotion. They are competitors after all.
Pretty sure Draymond Green got a tech for looking at a ref this season
He may be wrong on the officiating of this particular game, but his points are very valid, and a lot of the players and fans have been complaining about soft techs this year. The rules may allow it, but that doesn't mean ANYONE is gonna be happy to see one of the best players on the court leave the game because he did something emotional while playing sports. It actually sucks to see players not reacting to stuff on court. Not to talk about the plain out bogus techs, like Tatum clapping out of frustration about himself. At that point, the rule need some level of change.
The Refs on the court don’t make the rules. You can’t get mad at them when they enforce them. It’s literally their job.
If you wanna show emotions, go and be an actor, play in movies. I support the no emotion policy of NBA. When it comes to expressing, all players say they are tough. But in reality, almost all of them are emotionally soft. Emotional weakness should not be tolerated.
@@berryesseen emotional weakness shouldnt, but normal human emotion should, what a stupid comment you made 💀
@@Viqtor anything about emotions should be penalized and not tolerated. Think it like a doctor getting emotional when he is doing an operation. Would you want his emotions to affect his profession? No, right? The same thing applies to NBA. They are professional players. They have responsibilities and obligations. They can control their urges. If they can’t, NBA will find other players who can.
@@berryesseen these arent doctors so stay on topic, these are athletes whos job is to entertain, you cannot entertain without emotion.
NOW SHOW US SOME OF THOSE TONY BROTHERS GAMES
I LoLed at this.
Coach, how does them boot taste?!
I disagree with nick in this video
damn, i concorde, you obviously don't watch many raptor games, must be frustrating for sure to loose, but he is happy with the situation in toronto, this stuff have been happening for years, and in comparation with more "popular" teams it's just obnoxious to watch
Bleh, this video is grossly biased. Stuff like this is why the unlike button should still be around
How was it biased?
The refs are not the biggest problem, it's the rules. It is almost impossible to officiate an NBA game as the rules are favoring the offensive players and the players are using it every single possesion. I watched Luka against the suns, every fucking possesion he was either drawing a foul or complaining to the refs he should get one. In my opinion it is ugly to watch a superstar behave like that and it ruins the game. But it works because of the rules...
omg the third quarter too much for me. Started hating Luka as a mavs fan after that one. But I agree. The Refs are taking too much of the spotlight because the rules are too tight. That puts them under pressure.
Your ref slurping is getting out of control. Scott foster is so mad about it because its true, maybe not everyone but tht scumbag was definitely involved with donaghy and has an extensive history of awful calls and bias against teams and players
Come on. Do u think a player would ever get away with accusing a ref of cheating like that? Any player would get a tech for doing that
@BBALLBREAKDOWN haha well you are right about that, I wouldn't expect him not get t'd but I just find it ironic and hilarious that it occurred with Scott of all people. There's tons of receipts on foster.
I agree with coach on his explanation but I also agree with VanVleet that some of the technicals being called are ridiculous I strongly believe that if the NBA is going to fine players for criticizing the officials then they need to start holding the officials accountable as well for their actions
Yes. Fine these refs that make bad calls that affect the outcome of games. If players get fined they should get fined also
@@Ace21playr fine them for what exactly? you want to fine a ref for missing a call? they're human bruh do you realize how difficult their job is...
@@remydon2391 I understand that. But the obvious calls that get reviewed and they still get it wrong affects the game. There should be a fine for that. This happened in an NBA game and NBA apologized but nothing was done to the refs
Damn the refs paying you or sum
You should not be taking the refs side here smh so much nitpicking to defend the refs instead of defending the players
This a paid hit piece by the NBA.
rare L from coach. controversial videos make for good engagement i guess. enjoy the adsense. get that bag king.
Elaborate
@5:50 Rare BBALLBREAKDOWN L, "But more importantly, Barnes cannot be talking like this in such a crucial part of the game. Should it have been a technical foul and not an ejection? Maybe." NAH bro it should have been a technical foul AT MOST. Barnes is talking like what? he wasn't even "excessively complaining"
Refs nowadays are simply ruining the game.
The ball went off Hayes? or Dyson Daniels
How come Lebron James didn’t get a tech for the way he reacted on the court after Jason Tatum fouled him? And what about Scottie Barnes being thrown out after one tech and for what reason? NBA has double standards.
Love the little shoutout to Jack Armstrong. He's one of the very best, doesn't hold back and has a wealth of basketball experience. Learned a lot about the game from him!
Bball do you have any relationship with anyone close or refs in the nba. Because it sure seems you like taking their sides all the time no matter what.
7:38 FVV maybe have had his hand on Kawhi but DEFINITELY not enough for to push him. Kawhi moved forward and then tried to pull back when FVV was there making him off balance because his upper body was leaning backward but on his toes. Then moved the ball the other side to avoid the swipe completing him falling backwards.
Not FVF bro. its FVV Fred VanVleet. great comment nonetheless
on top of that we literally have seen kawhi completely body players like giannis moving with massive momentum and not move at all.
Ok, I can see that
@@bballbreakdownThe Kawhi dunk on Poeltl is clearly an offensive foul. He knees him in the groin. I have seen that called flagrant 1 multiple times this year. I get your perspective but when 3 of your examples are bad you lose credibility. Fred on Kawhi, Kawhi dunk, and Dame fouling Siakam are bad examples. Do better!
@@wentman @Wentworth Willock guy... Poetls foot was in the restricted area. Meaning he's not allowed to be there. You lose all credibility. That's basketball basics. Do better.
The challenge system shows how incompetent a lot of these referees are. That's why the NBA keeps Challenges limit to only one despite coaches getting their challenge correct
wait there is far more context to that really annoying denver game for Toronto.
We have been fk over many times by refs cuz we aren't one of the fave teams to win the chip. other fans of other teams can also agree to this
and no mention of Tony Brothers? who is notorious for ruining raptors games for YEARS
The NBA has become an increasingly unwatchable ref's league. Bounce the ball off the stanchion, get a tech. Clap, get a tech. Look at a ref wrong, get a tech. Bounce the ball to the ref wrong, get a tech. Wave your arms, get a tech. Raise your voice, get a tech.
For years, the NFL has been jokingly referred to as the "No Fun League" but it seems more and more like the the NBA are determined to claim that title. Whether Coach likes it or not, FVV is simply saying what increasing numbers of NBA fans have already started to call out: NBA officiating has become more about the refs than the players.
You're really stretching on alot of these clips, if you watched the clippers and nuggets game you would've seen the plays that really triggered these reactions. Yall got to see the gilbert arenas podcast these refs are so sensitive.
I went thru every play from those games
@@bballbreakdown cmon coach didn’t u just reply to another comment saying u can’t go through every play
Watching this as a fringe NBA follower, the refs give me no motivation to watch more NBA.
As gilbert arenas said, refs are supposed to be emotionless and impartial. The second they show emotion or become butthurt because of something a player says they should stop reffing. but no way should they ref and tell players they should not be emotional.
^^^^ i get that it’s a hard job with all the complaining, but it’s just unrealistic to tell the players to not be frustrated.
Referees aren't your punching bags.
You don't always miss because you were fouled.
"My emotions are more valid than your emotions cos reasons"
*BETA*
Gilbert Arenas - the gun in locker room guy??
*Jesus wept*
@@darrengordon-hill what in the blue fuck are you talking about?
You had good points Coach, but I respectfully disagree. Refs are too soft nowadays. Players are not emotionless robots
that referee is a problem.. he has been terrible in oklahoma .., it’s like he takes it personally
NBA players have it nice, switch out NBA refs with MLB umpires and it would be chaos.
Angel Hernandez in the NBA? I'd want to watch that.
I don't think you're on either side of an argument of players vs refs, but trying to make a whole video playing devils advocate for these terrible ref crews is a pretty rare miss for this channel. looking forward to the next vid still but I wouldn't sit through another one of these lame ref pity parties
Bizarre tale considering how in depth I went to explain what was really happening on the court
Glad we got rid of Captain Picard
usually your videos are incredible. This one was a HUGE L on the other hand
Yes, it's a big L because it doesn't conform perfectly to your world views. Let's just ignore that he put a lot of time and research figuring what made Fred angry, his history with Ben Taylor, and breaking down plays, and say it's an L because emotional fans like to bash refs and they can't stand when someone says they are fine.
I love how every time a Raptors player “makes contact” its an obvious foul but whenever our opponents “make contact” theres some bullshit explanation why its not a foul. “Theres no evidence to say that the Raptors are being penalized more than the Clippers” yeah man a 31-14 FT disparity when its a 6 point game with under 2 min left yeah Im sure that didn’t play a role. And people wonder why we hate on refs and media so much. Lmao. Such an insane double standard. If were letting every marginal thing go cool. If were calling everything like its 2023 cool. Just let it go both ways. Its kinda hard not to complain when in 49 min of game time your opponents shoot 40 FTs and you shoot 18 then you give us techs for complaining about an absolutely ridiculous disparity? Nah we aint gonna sit down and just take it were gonna say something about it. The games where Fred got techs that you referenced in this video our opponents shot 95 FTs to our 70 and the Hawks game we lost by 2 in OT with a -10 disparity. We have a right to complain
Basketball referees are the softest people on this planet.
I'm sure you regularly get screamed by thousands of fans and huge athletes get in your face. Yeah, THEY are the soft ones. 🤣🤣🤣
So funny that lil bro sitting at home thinks he knows what’s going on better than the people in the building.
A misconception that I've seen a lot is the notion that a flagrant foul must be for hard fouls only while the rule covers other actions too
this is kinda awkward after the NBA suspends Taylor. proving vanfleet's voice
can't totally agree with this video. That sentence "refs can give techs for too many criticism" is somehow funny to me.
It's a pain cause it's vague it let's each ref decide how much criticism they want to receive which is opening yourself upto inconsistencies
@@milktank8338 and the fact that the ref gets that mad because Barnes said the word "cheating" makes me laugh. They are really that sensitive even when everybody in the world knew the refs were dirty. Besides, Barnes might not even be referring to the scandal.
At bball breakdown we're not just a channel, we're a selectively edited narrative generator
This statement makes no sense. He made a video breaking down various calls throughout the Raptors season, what Fred was made about and whether or gave his analysis of the call. Do you know what "narrative" means? It doesn't mean "story I don't like". Please learn how some vocabulary and quit mimicking things athletes say in press conferences.
@@Jazzguitar00 "please learn how some vocabulary"....ironic
@@Jazzguitar00 also I don't think you know what "mimicking" means
@@Jazzguitar00mad about*
@@Jazzguitar00 "and whether or gave his call"
8:12 PG was not “using verticality” here. He is leaning into Siakam
My God, these Raptors fans are either blind or dishonest.
Ridiculous and worst take on this matter I have seen. This coach is acting like refereeing hasn’t got worst when in fact it has.
Way to pick and choose clips to help your argument Coach - this video is just you pandering and shilling for the refs.
you can't target vanfleet and rag on his reactions then casually bring up "he's one my favorite players" lol when clearly there's an issue w/ the reffing in games across the league. also, 6:05 is a BS take imo, what you mean you can't be talking like that? you really expect players (humans) not be at a higher emotional state towards the end of a game?
WELL YOU FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT CALL OF THE YEAR THE LEBRON OBVIOUS FOUL WINNING GAME WTF !!
lookin like pre-kawhi days. focused on refs..
Ur logic is off this video. Always defending the refs and ignoring obvious signs, and saying 50/50 calls are obvious calls, always defending the refs. Yes not every call Fred complained about was a bad call but many were and you also failed to include many of those and cherry picked some videos
I see the games, if the refs are not fixing games they are idiots. That's what happens when there's no accountability.