The Ego Is an Activity, Not an Entity
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.พ. 2022
- Is the ego the same as the separate self? And what is the difference between the ego, separate self and finite mind? The finite mind is the character or clothing that infinite consciousness assumes in order to have objective experience. It can not have objective experience without doing so, without the agency of the finite mind.
However, identification with that finite mind is not necessary. That identification is the activity referred to as ego or separate self. It is not an entity, it is the activity of thinking and feeling that I am separate, temporary and finite.
The ego is a belief, not simply the functioning of the finite mind. We can have finite experience, as we all do every day, without the belief that I am a finite or separate being. Without the belief in the ego we see and feel that we share the same being.
So it is not finite experience that is problematic. It is beliefs that are problematic.
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The relief Rupert has brought into my life with his clarity is beyond measure.
Rupert's a treasure! He's been a touchstone for me over the years and I never get tired of his guidance..
He talks about things so clearly.
Then you missed everything he said.
The egoic or personal mind is not going to be a willing participant in what it sees as its own destruction. The mind knowing everything about us will strike at the soft underbelly that we all have. For the mind this is a fight to the death.
Thanks Rupert, I loved the clarification about the difference between the separate self and the finite mind:
“It is true that in order to have objective experience, it is necessary for infinite awareness to know experience through the agency of a finite mind; (but) it is not necessary to believe that I am that finite mind.
So the ego, or the apparently separate self, is a belief, it is not simply the functioning of the finite mind.”
almost 10 years of struggle just for me to understand this haha
When you're willing to question and challenge ALL of your beliefs, and ALL beliefs are false, they begin to disintegrate before your very eyes. However, it is not an easy or comfortable process.
Interesting. I had a feeling one of our conversations would appear on here one day! Deep love and gratitude as always Rupert 🙏
Thinking is wonderfully beautiful thing we do as finite selves. A great tool, too. Thank you, Rupert for these clear, concrete explanations. They help so much.
Excellent clarification! I was also getting these concepts confused. Thank you Rupert!
Amazing in every way...so clearly answered and explained by Rupert
Hi Rupert, Absolutely love how susinctly you put it : "The Ego is an activity..." knowing how words are often not the thing and are often misconstrued depending on who hears or reads them. I feel like the way you put that said phrase has a child like clarity that is nearly important not to 'get' which is exciting when I consider how many people you are capable of reaching on your channel here. Fantastic my friend!🙏
I sooo believe we are reflections of one another, and that what we see in another we see in ourself. Thank you 🙏
The ego as a different individual that cons you into believing that he is you. But in reality, your true self is better off without the ego.
"Revolver" 2005
this is one of his best in a long time
Ego is a dynamic, not an Entity. That's correct. Thank you.
A conditioned mechanism
@@23bramble Yes, it's a mental conditioning. As Sri Ranjit Maharaj said: "Ego exists and it's unreal". He's talking about the mind. Rupert explains It in terms of King Lear and John Smith. We are all going in the same direction. The mind is like the sea, always in movement by nature; the ego is the wave, up and down trying to dominate the Self. But the Self just surfs, never affected.
Really clearly put !!
Great wisdom. The late Lester Levenson talked about dropping the mind altogether and going on intuition. To do this apparently you have to let go of ALL negative emotions and eventually thoughts. As you progress in your development, abilities open up for you. These include some psychic skills and being able to tune into any person or place and know what's happening. His autobiography is amazing. He said when he drove down the streets of New York, every single light went green. People would give up their parking places to let him in without knowing why. When he sent into a store, the shop assistants went out of their way to help him. Apparently he radiated love to the highest degree. I wander if these abilities are open for anyone who develops to a certain level.
" It may appear very paradoxical, but this is true - before you can lose your ego, you must attain it. Only a ripe fruit falls to the ground. Ripeness is all. An unripe ego cannot be thrown, cannot be destroyed. And if you struggle with an unripe ego to destroy and dissolve it, the whole effort is going to be a failure. Rather than destroying it, you will find it more strengthened, in new and subtle ways.
This is something basic to be understood - the ego must come to a peak, it must be strong, it must have attained an integrity - only then can you dissolve it. A weak ego cannot be dissolved. And this becomes a problem.
In the East all the religions preach egolessness. So in the East everybody is against the ego from the very beginning. Because of this anti attitude, ego never becomes strong, never comes to a point of integration from where it can be thrown. It is never ripe. So in the East it is very difficult to dissolve the ego, almost impossible.
In the West the whole Western tradition of religion and psychology propounds, preaches, persuades people to have strong egos - because unless you have a strong ego, how can you survive? Life is a struggle; if you are egoless you will be destroyed. Then who will resist? Who will fight? Who will compete? And life is a continuous competition. Western psychology says: Attain to the ego, be strong in it.
But in the West it is very easy to dissolve the ego. So whenever a Western seeker reaches an understanding that ego is the problem he can easily dissolve it, more easily than any Eastern seeker. This is the paradox - in the West ego is taught, in the East egolessness is taught. But in the West it is easy to dissolve the ego, in the East it is very difficult.
This is going to be a hard task for you, first to attain and then to lose - because you can lose only something which you possess. If you don’t possess it, how can you lose it? "
Rupert is a testimony that true teaching which is The Self is appearing as Rupert to help the apparent other ( me and you) ....in reality it's The Self helping the Self itself by knowing itself in the play of teacher and student.
Lovely explanation. Thank you both. Love, Light, Luck; Health, Wealth, Elf
Thank you! Nicely articulated as always you do!
I love your videos super helpful to me and my family much love from the Midwestern United States. Years ago i stumbled into plants and sages and had a divine experience I could never interpret until I discovered spirituality.
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"⁷The ego is quite literally a fearful thought." ~ A Course in Miracles T-5.V.3:7
The Absolute, in order to experience, experiences through you
Anything that one can refer to; is the Ego
Interesting way of putting it ....Rupert has a way of simplifying things for sure
Thank you!
The ego is just a belief... Just the thumbnail says it all... On point.
I must says if you really wants to peace and happiness permanently in your life, then please spend your sometime with the guidance of the Rupert Spira.
Thanks Rupert and your team.
@DJ KarameloKaramelo KarameloKaramelo its your own choice. You're completely open to choose anything. After all eachone are unique.
Thinking is my sport! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wonderful.
The ego is much more than the belief to be a finite mind, otherwise we would just have to stop believing in order to get rid of it. Ego is attachment to everything that confirms separate existence. Attachment is much stronger than belief. Even if we have on the inner journey very convincing transpersonal experiences of regions of consciousness beyond the finite mind, the ego is back very fast in the driver seat after the experience. Only the annihilation of all levels of self-perception can end the reign of the ego.
Beliefs are attachments to thought patterns. Attachments are an addiction to identifying with the idea that one is the thinker of thoughts.
But how will I know what bathroom to go in to? How will I know if someone is talking to me? Is this my jacket when I leave the studio? The ego is part of your conscious thought. You can not annihilate the ego, good luck, the ego loves a good fight. I can just find amusement when it tries to control my inner world. Oh, you again. :) As I integrate it and smile at it, it loses its power.
@@littlewing2357 That's the ego talking. The Self is Eternal Silence. Enjoy you dream, but you're going to have to wake up at some point.
@@highvibefreqzshow5967 The self is eternal silence is BS. Who wrote your words? Who came up with a name High Vibe Feqqz show? Are you familiar with the term egoic spirituality?
@@littlewing2357 Not only that, but what is it that wants to annihilate the ego? Wouldn't that represent a desire?
Reading others' comments gives me a sense of community. Being a bit of a friendly loner
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Great analogy ❤
But the issue always is, what happens to the richness of contexts created by the multitude of King Lears. In this matter I think Iain McGlchrist is correct: infinite consciousness generates individuality and diversity for precisely that reason. Individuality and the creation of it is critical to both the function and purpose of being. The purpose of being is not to negate individuality or to dissolve or lose it. Quite the opposite: it is to generate it in the first place, and having generated it, to reap the fruit of that process in eternity. This doesn't mean that one needs to sustain a limited, egoic view of oneself. But it does mean that King Lear ias "added unto" John Smith as a result of having been King Lear.
One teacher distinguished between feelings and emotions so that people who had never been in the role of observer of their thoughts could start to see the difference. Feelings come from presence (various expressions of love, such as compassion) and emotions from the ego - are intense and you would most likely put a photo on FB to share them with everyone, or you would like to call your mother and complain about your fate. In this sense, the feelings are deep and silent, and the emotions are loud and explosive. There is no judgment of what is right or wrong - the difference just exists but it is difficult to express in language.
Wow. I get this.❤🙏🏼
The speaker is such an interesting guy
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Yes 🙌
Ego is the reflection of Supreme Consciousness.
But, are you saying I cannot feel compassion unless I view the other person's sorrow as my own? I would say that compassion from the perspective of oneness is the recognition and remembrance of needless sorrow, of recognizing that the other person is caught in the illusion of being a separate self and therefore is able to suffer. I guess I am saying that the sadness or compassion I feel is for a different reason than that of the person whose sadness can only exist due to being a separate self.
Compassion is caring, affection and empathy combined. You care how the person feels and you can feel or sense their pain or distress to some degree/extent. That doesn't mean you suffer too but you can sense/feel what they are feeling without suffering. It is a natural response to another being's suffering when our hearts are open enough. Otherwise the empathy is very limited or non-existent. Disliking someone closes down our ability to feel compassion or empathy for them because they are opposites.
There’s the me, myself and I
Then there’s the psyche, spirit and soul
And of course the mighty ego
With its hiding shadow
There’s also that other trio
The person with a personality
And its pretender
Known as the persona
How do you know which of these
Is the true one and only you
the one who is watching the whole dance
Ohhh I can not seem to grasp this….
Ego is more of a local time/space/duality operating system. From birth, concensus and environmental expectations shape the egoic attachments and propensities. This is a transitional process, more or less congruent with formative law.
You can analyze something to death to where it doesn’t make any sense and it’s convoluted and twisted
This is important information he is giving. However the information is not going to bring about any short term spiritual changes. What is more likely as a person assimilated it the egoic mind will attack which could last days or months.
Ego,
The father and the son,
The moon and the sun,
The good and bad,
Morning and night, etc
I hear people say you are not the ego, get rid of the ego, etc,
The understanding is that I and the father is one, this is the understanding that Jesus said in the bible,
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The collective opinion of everyone you ever met is mistakenly taken as being who we really are. The nature of ego is to do anything and everything to keep you from knowing it is a lie. It wants you to believe it's eternal but it dies with the body.
As much as I like Rupert, I think its interesting how much one has to pay for such teaching, especially since it derives from non duality "teachers" that were giving it away for free.
Northern.. To truly ‘know’ this realm it must be directly experienced. Probably as I assume Rupert has during meditation or something similar. For example to actually know the taste of a strawberry it must be tasted. You could never get that from a book. 🙏
@Northern Soul While I agree that there is plenty of free TH-cam videos and books, and there's plenty to be gained from them, I don't really understand the price tag that comes with going to actually see and learn from such teachers directly.
@@jeremygreenwood8127 It is reasonable to charge money for anything of value in life. Spiritual teachings and spiritual guidance and healing work that healers do is very valuable. Therefore it is logical and reasonable to charge a large amount of money a lot of the time for your work. It is also good to offer it free or very cheap to those who cannot afford some of the time.
X-Files
Opposite of a humans heart (light and warmth) is a vampires giant a**hole in space called "ego" filled with ignorance (hate).
One part I'd like to understand is when Rupert is talking about the characters in the dream, near the end of the video. He says that the one character who is being very mean and aggressive to the other must be seeing the other as separate from himself, because he would never treat himself that way. I know a number of people who are, in fact, really mean and abusive toward themselves. So if someone like that is mean with another person, they might actually be just treating the other as they treat themselves?
Any thoughts?
Great question.
Thanks! 🙂
Suppose the situation you describe would be a dream. Once awake anyone could realize that the person being abusive and mean to both himself and others acted from a wrong, mistaken perspective. The change of perspective, also called awakening, does the job. It does awakening from any dream.
I argue that there are a number of aspects that affect the Core Self which then mutates over time-based on nurturing. So, it's like food feeding an interior beast (potential). I theorize there are always 2 All the Time, no matter what. From there; who knows? "Good Ego" "Bad Ego", "confidence", "arrogance". *and so on...It's not just "THE" (Ego). That is horrible to spread around to where ego=negative or just being an asshole.
@Northern Soul definitely the ego.
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Pretty sure that was Jeff Foster talking.
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The phrase "The ego is an Activity, Not an entity" is a description that Adi Da Samraj first used during his early teaching years. and during his later talks. Whether this phrase has been plagiarized by Andrew, who knows? But I haven't heard this phrase used by any spiritual/religious teacher other than Adi Da Samraj before this talk.
so we are all John Smith
You can feel separate from others yet be kind and compassionate toward them. Ego is not just a belief in separation - it is a negative belief system, a negative mind. Thinking by itself is not a bad thing - the problem is in the negative and discordant thinking that the ego represents. The nature of The Self consists only of good, but since man doesn’t know The Self, he thinks that ego is himself, at least an inseparable part of him, which is not true. When people hear that they must stop thinking to reach enlightenment, they are afraid that they are going to become like vegetables. But they forget that true infinite intelligence belongs to The Self and not the mind, which is some sort of a very limited artificial intelligence. Just The Self uses a nonverbal way to process the information, not thoughts but understanding.
There's a saying in Conversations with God by Neale Donald Walsch "Feelings are the language of the soul."
Does Rupert know anything about the chakras and Kundalini ?
I feel he's only focused on the mind and not much on the spirit , or physical body . All 3 are one !
No, he is focused on the spirit, since the conscient spirit brings transformation in body and mind. That's the direct path.
Rupert uses the term "infinite awareness" synonymously with what most people refer to as a "spirit." And his teacher Francis Lucille studied Kashmir Shaivism intensely and passed on that knowledge of chakras and kundalini to Rupert. So yes, Rupert is well familiar with the reality that mind, spirit, and body are all one. :)
I could perceive that I have no body, no arms and no legs, but I couldn't see myself. I was also able to see the Mental Field of Consciousness, which contained all the frames, Holograms, images, letters, numbers, etc. themselves which are pasted as frames on the screen. Then I saw how a screen approached and adjusted, then I no longer knew what happened. From there I understood that anything I see, perceive or feel is not real. So the kundalini, the chakras belong to the illusion, because without that screen you cannot see, feel or perceive anything at all.That includes all teaching, teachers, books, videos, sounds, gurus, etc.
In that screen the movie or the "personal story" is being projected by the Light of Consciousness.
So the animals are separate, is why we eat them?
Consciousness when It identifies with something, believes itself to be that thing. Now It identifies itself with body mind complex, it believes itself to be body mind.
Can you perceive something without it expression i.e living activity, wheither it is visible or invisible ?
Thus, isn't making discrimination between the so called entity and activity a dualit perspective ?
A belief, an Entity, an Activity....what is the ultimate seek ?
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Sometimes I feel like Rupert cuts people off because his tolerance for simple emotions is very low, lol.
" Awareness Cannot have expeience except through finite mind"
Says who? To think the creator doesnt already know and understand all, experience or otherwise, is absurd.
He doesnt need us to experience anything
@Nomad. How exactly do you know this? Personal experience?
Can someone help me understand what he asks at 1:06? I mean, literally! My english is not perfect and the sound was difficult to understand for me
He starts by saying 'as I was in this process of thinking' and then he falters and asks the question regarding ego and separate self - so it is nothing, just a stumble in his speech as he changes his mind about what he's saying.
He asks "Do you use the words 'separate self' and 'ego' synonymously?"
A veces activo los subtitulos en inglés y así puedo leer algo que no logré entender.
6:49- - emotion such as ___ what? math, noth moth ??
(...) Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. (1 Corinthians 15:3-5)
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A wise man has no beliefs.
He looks so annoyed listening to the speaker. I am too.
These people are so screwed up they just don’t get it
The dude talking is so lost.