did you name your website purposefully in order to make it seem like moviesluts coz I totally thought you were called moviesluts for like a minute straight
The director said they chose this color because it makes the brass instruments pop and you can definitely see the difference. They almost look dull without color grading. Its amazing how much a single color can change a movie.
@Rorschach 0007 whether or not it's intended or not isn't relevant, it still creates the effect.warm colour are more welcoming and inviting and the purpose of the scene is to make the club seem welcoming at first then it subverts your expectations
single color changes life, if you think about it and look at the photos of everyday life across the planet, you will notice different places on earth have different "tint", due to slightly different sun position in those areas... this later on have insane inpact on us, or the people living in different places around the globe
@@user-xj2sm3xd5l It's actually not, but I can't go into detail about who the characters are based on because of multiple NDA's I had to sign. It's all very hush hush to say the least.
Cause it subverts your expectations even more. Initially everything is nice and the lights are this warm yellow, makes you feel comfortable in a way. Then that is completely ripped from you when the chair is thrown.
I like to think of the alternate version where he doesn't see the chair coming and it just annihilates him. Everyone is freaking out at Fletcher, like "what are you doing?" "I dont know, trying to push him! Is he ok?" "Ahhhh, so much blood! I can't feel my legs!!" Fletcher goes to prison for Assualt and Battery, and Andrew spends the rest of his life in a chair, utterly confused and traumatized by his first day in class.
I think the yellow increases the jazz vibe. Often i associate yellow or orange lighting with calm and classy environments, combine that with a wooden room and you have the whole jazz package.
Certainly, numerous former band members have noted that the film's yellow tint evokes feelings of practicing once again. This is due to the keen understanding of the music conservatory environment by the film's director, Damien Chazelle, who himself was a former drummer. The yellow color serves to perfectly capture the intense, chaotic and high-pressure atmosphere of a music school.
No, you're wrong. I am going to a film school to be a colorist/editor. Now watch my hands. The yellow is a BOLD color almost like J.K. Simmons' head is BALD. You see?. Most of these people talking really don't understand film language and why things are colored the way they are
That's how they reel you in for maximum impact. I've worked with these toxic type personalities before, they'd be shouting at you if you make a mistake and then pretend to be your friend the next day
That's one of the scariest things a manipulator or narcissist can do to you. First, they'll put you into the comfortable zone by being nice to them, and once they have your trust, then they'll immediately switch into psycho mode.
@@xxbrkdwnxx The guy is a gate way for people looking to succeed. Each of them want something bad enough to endure the psychological and physical abuse to obtain it. This literally happens every day in real life.
The yelling and psychological stuff is decently realistic imo but the slapping and throwing of the chair warrants an assault charge. Fletcher would 100% be investigated at that point.
I think the director nailed it with the lighting. It really feels like the whole movie takes place in old academia, with practice spaces that haven't had a lighting update since 1945 and use extremely warm-color lightbulbs.
Does it not feel like it portrays the room as hot and stuffy to anyone else? With how much sweating is in this movie, I've always felt like it had to do with this never ending sense of stress and heat. The kind of heat that feels like pins and needles when it starts to build up on your skin.
The yellow can be that, along with triumph and happienss, but also can be related to sensations like dizziness, tiredness and, more or less in general, to being upset/annoyed, so it's useful in both ways the positive and the negative, specially in this scene where at the beggining is the warm and inviting and then feel like the tension and uneasiness as it progresses.
@@gabrieleporru4443 You’re right. That’s the word I was looking for, drowsiness, as well as stuffiness and mild discomfort. Uncomfortably warm and claustrophobic.
They purpously filmed it with low light, kind of dark, and everything with the filter on mind. If it wasn't like that then any movie with a yellow filter would be better.
This isn’t a color grade, just adjusted the white balance of the video is all. A room lit by tungsten lights should look yellow, no point correcting it to look natural, defeats the whole purpose
@@gowtham12349they did use a color grade? i’m not sure what you’re saying here. they didn’t just want yellow lights, they wanted the entire movie tinted over,
Yeah, this really sums up why I hate this movie so much. Everyone just acts like a robot about seeing their bandmates abused, physically and verbally, on a daily basis. No one in this movie seems human except for the main character and his father.
@@GlitzPixie I'm sure it is, but it robs the movie, IMO, of a lot of authenticity, and what we're left with is just kind of a morality play or even just a fairy tale.
It's actually not entirely yellow - scenes where Andrew is under the thumb of Fletcher and in the pursuit of musical greatness are heavily tinted yellow, which is the majority - scenes where andrew is dejected and defeated, or straying from his pursuit, are tinted blue - and finally scenes where Andrew is in connection with his family, namely his dad, are tinted green.
@@pootytang69ya the scenes are only ever yellow when they’re in the classroom which is in the basement, like hell is underground. Fletcher is the devil.
Without the yellow it feels like a normal film and the movie would probably have the same reception from its writing. The yellow gives the movie a very luxurious vibe like fine art
Right off the bat, the cymbals, the brass instruments and even the chrome hardware (stands, nuts, drum hoops) on the drum set _really_ pop in the original.
The whole movie is constructed on two atmospheres. A yellow tone is used when he is in the "music" world, and a blue tone in the "outer" world. There’s one or two times in the movie where the colours swap or get mixed, and it always means something. I can’t fully detail it cause it’s been quite a while since I’ve seen Whiplash, but it was really interesting to study
There's also a small handful of green scenes, typically whenever Andrew's focus is on his father - yellow means his focus is on music/fletcher - blue is turning his focus away from music (the love interest) and scenes where he is wanting to give up.
The yellow tone was used to show when Andrew was stepping into hell which was the classroom in the underground in the basement and the devil would orchestrate his students 😅
Honestly I love how the warm color of the movie not only contrasts with its dark story and characters, but also pairs so nicely with jazz as a music genre
Actually, the yellow conveys a sense of stuffiness, claustrophobia, drowsiness, stress, and uncomfortable heat. Those feelings go quite nicely with the theme of the movie.
@@ym5180 You know, it’s possible for there to be multiple causes of something. Sure, the main reason they used yellow was to enhance the instruments, but it’s likely that the skilled creative team also used the lighting and color grading to enhance the mood/tone of the story.
Out of curiosity, I recorded the teacher's count in at about 2:10 to establish his tempo. His tempo is about 0.338 s between claps. After the drummer plays about a bar, the teacher says "dragging-just a hair". But when I extended this count in and played it over the band, the drummer is actually rushing significantly. To be specific, the drummer _is_ a tad late on the first beat (maybe 15 ms; the trumpet comes in a little earlier, which is closer to on time), but then the drummer lurches forward to catch up and rushes from then on out. At 338 ms per beat, 4 beats should take the drummer 1.352 s to finish, but he manages to get through 4 beats in only ~1.225 s, so he was not dragging like the teacher suggested. JK Simmons is just repeating script dialog here, not reacting on the fly to what the music is doing. FYI, I only checked that one spot because I thought it was interesting that the drummer supposedly changed from rushing to dragging. From a story perspective, of course, it could be that the teacher was intentionally trolling the drummer just to mess with him.
@@angeljj2129 haha. It works either way and I love it. I mean, a normal person wouldn’t recognize it anyhow, but it doesn’t matter if he’s lying or not, it all fits his characyer
Something I find really impressive about this movie is how accurately it captures-albeit with absurdly over-the-top theatrics and chair-throwing-the terrifying dynamic between perfectionist conductors and student musicians. I played in several ensembles in middle school, high school, and college, including out of school and at the regional level, and the fits of outrage, and attempts of the students who weren’t the subjects of that outrage to avoid drawing any attention to themselves, is spot on. Karl’s actor (who is a professional drummer in real life!) absolutely NAILS his unspoken role in this scene with the look of serious concentration on his face as he looks sideways at Nieman’s sheet music while Fletcher ratchets up the intensity of his criticism. Be neither seen nor heard but pretend you are sympathetic to the conductor’s point.
I experienced this too, but i finished my studies in the 80's. There is no way a professor could behave that way in todays music schools, or even when the film is supposedly set without being fired and then sued. I find that quite incongruous.
Thing I love most about the yellow tint is how good the drum kit looks. Seeing the drops of sweat literally being moved by the symbols, the bass drum just pounding, the whole set moving. I think the color grading is great. Gave the film a personality. Fantastic film! Made me wanna pick up Sax again from high school.
I actually love the yellow. A live band or orchestra in the pit is also usually under a warm light to be less invasive so it feels thematically appropriate.
@@AlchemistOfNirnroot reverse engineering the color grade in Premiere Pro and Davinci Resolve, this will be covered in our course and we will upload some TH-cam videos about it.
One thing I love about this scene is that it shows the headspace a musician is in when they get flustered during a rehearsal. The biggest thing I noticed was how when Fletcher started focusing on Andrew individually, he eventually tried to come in on the downbeat of Fletcher's count-off rather than actually using the count-off for what it is. I think most musicians have dealt with an instructor that has been inconsistent in the way they count off which can lead to confusion in the future, even when a student is presented with an instructor who is extremely consistent with their count-offs. The huge thing here is how generally when something like this happens, a good instructor will recognize that the student is getting flustered and either let them cool off or change up the approach they're taking when giving individual instruction. The thing is, despite Fletcher's impressive resume he is *not* a good instructor and either fails to recognize that his method of hyper-fixating on something that no audience member or fictional jazz judge would ever notice is detrimental to his student's progress or even worse he recognizes this and chooses to continue anyways. I personally think the latter of the options is most likely, as I think it's pretty clear throughout the film that Fletcher's primary motivation is producing one of the greats and he thinks that this hyper-fixation and ignoring of reasonable teaching practices is the way to do so.
He's absolutely fucking with Nieman deliberately - he play-acted nice to get Nieman to tell him his insecurity about his parents, and then used it against him - the only thing I'd take issue with is Fletcher's core motivation. Fletcher may tell himself he's trying to produce one of the greats, but I believe he has a deep need to abuse his students to feel powerful, possibly because he feels inadequate for not being one of the greats himself, and "producing great musicians" is just a flimsy justification for conducting psychological warfare on teenagers.
@@LeoTheMonts I think it's fair to say that Fletcher most likely has some kind of deeper motivation behind the way he acts, I just didn't notice anything in the film which would indicate that he took pleasure in the way he treats his students. For example with the trombone player it almost seems like genuine disgust, which obviously isn't okay but I don't think the film was trying to show Fletcher as someone with any deeper motivation for the way he acts.
Ooh, just JK Simmons' performance makes me think he takes pleasure in it. Especially the at the end, when he lures Nieman back into the band just to get his revenge by making him learn the wrong song. That's not about making anyone a better musician, that's about power. @@sebastianrasor
@@LeoTheMonts Honestly I think it's possible to take pleasure in revenge but not take pleasure in the other parts. The revenge, for Fletcher, is satisfying because he feels like Nieman has wronged him and is "getting what he deserves." That's just a generally satisfying state of mind for any individual.
@@sebastianrasor Sure, it just seems to me that Fletcher gets a lot of satisfaction out of abusing the students throughout the entire film too. In my mind, Fletcher wouldn't have that kind of force of emotion behind berating Nieman if it weren't personal in some way. When someone is that committed to something, they've got to have a deeper, more personal motivation, and I think Fletcher's is a need to abuse others to feel powerful. Your viewpoint on it isn't wrong though; I just like talking about these things because I'm a writer and director :)
This movie is so intense lol at times I couldn’t wait for a scene to be over because it felt like I was actually there watching someone keep screwing up. Amazing job by all actors and writers.
Welp, that's a nice reminder to re-watch this movie. Haven't seen it in years, and thanks to this video I'll be able to appreciate it even more. Thank you for your work ❤️
3:25 what's the most impressionable thing on thatscene is how much people are willing to take and drag themselves in the mud for a long term goal in which they feel are in the middle of.
Apparently, yellow can sometimes be used to portray jealousy and fear, and I think the yellow in this scene really shows that. It really presents Andrew's fear of Fletcher's incredibly violent and ruthless methods which he uses to force the potential of perfection out of him - that fear eventually bubbles into jealousy which drives him over the edge and causes him to burn all his bridges just to become the very thing Fletcher wanted him to be. Perfection.
@@legendoda5218 In this instance, yes. However, that doesn’t mean it was the only reason, nor does it invalidate other examples of broad themes being physically represented.
Breaking Bad has all the Mexico scenes in yellow because yellow was used as a visual que that anything could happen. Most of the most transformative scenes utilized yellow in a way to show the grim reaper was hovering very close. Walter White's basement scene involved a dozen yellow prompts, especially his shirt and the plate that led to his first kill. In this movie, it appears yellow is to show Andrew is in the "frying pan" and things are heating up. Instead of going red or orange, however, it's an almost unsettlingly sick yellow. It's just a little to overpowering, which is why I think so many people have attempted to color correct it to see the difference. You're supposed to think it's an uncomfortable and overbearing color grade, because that's the point. We feel like we want it gone, just like Andrew wants the feeling of anxiety when dealing with the madman gone.
Jesus, I forgot how powerful was this scene to me, I had a teacher that used this exact technique when I was new at school, and the pressure didn’t stop for a whole year. She really put me on another level, above everyone in every school aspect, but is kind of the reason I have so much anxiety, trouble with authority, and depression lol
Yeah everyone always claims that this is the kind of necessary abuse to make a great artist. And that may be the case!... Except for the other complications from the abuse.
@@kingwrightdev Do we? It's much like the philosophy that Militaries use to harden and focus their soldiers, and it's a time tested method. Now, the intensity here is not nearly as high as say, USMC boot camp or British Military, but it's that philosophy.
I like the warm lighting, it makes you feel as comfortable as Neiman is before a chair gets hurled at him. When you take that away, you're instinctually anticipating something sinister is about to happen with Fletcher's pale face floating in the background. Without that warmth and misdirection, whether intentional or not, it's as though there's less deception.
@@josephrusso4828 I feel like we only tap into this idea that it's used negatively after we've seen the movie and know what's about to happen, in this scene we don't really know what's about to happen yet. And foreboding the impending deceptiveness of an abusive teacher could certainly be described as negative. But I'm not trying to objectively say that the lighting is going to get the same subjective emotional response from the viewer either, I was mostly just making a joke at how it could be used to build the scene up for a an even better climax when we are shown the real Fletcher.
@@wsigned1323 Its not really subjective, though. Yes, it feels warm, but uncomfortably warm, suffocating or even claustrophobic. It also feels a bit drowsy. Also, the context of the film influences our view of the colors but the grading itself does indicate an odd, warm sensation.
I didn't notice how much of a difference the yellow made. It makes it feel a lot more intense for some reason. I found myself about half way through just watching the scene on the left side and ignoring the right lol
I always acknowledged the yellow but never noticed just how strong it was until I saw it side-by-side with this kind of edit. Super great work! Although I will say, like many others here I much prefer the yellow as it sort of sets the mood and makes it much more visually interesting. The edit feels much less vibrant --- dull. It's so crazy how colors can do that
The original made it feel like the whole movie took place late at night. It made it feel very detached from the grey blue of the early Nassau band scenes
The yellow version is crazy because when things are happy and the drummer even receives a compliment, it feels like a warm and nice ambience. But after things get -very- tense, it turns into intensity, fever and even a liver illness. The acting of these artists give the illusion that the color saturation is increasing throughout the song. The exaggeration on the orange tones of the skin and the contrast between a warm color and a stressful situation works excelente. It could also be look like The Simpson's live action. The ungraded version on the right. With beautiful cold colors and whites that are white, looks more what it would look like if it really happened. So it makes more sense, so there is less tension between that that the high stress level argument on an intense bright color. Like not just warm but HOT. The cold tones cool it down. It is very interesting to see, thanks for taking the hours in and sharing eventough it might be demonitaized but you've got a new sub for sure. Thanks for reading too, I smoked the hell out of Hulk's finger.
When I think of ensemble practice I think of a light blue/the lighting on the right side, because that’s mostly what band/orchestra rooms are. When I think of performances, the lighting in the movie is EXACTLY what I think of. It is the EXACT hue and tone of lighting every performance I’ve ever given has had. And anxiety is higher when you’re given a yellow tint that makes you pop out and makes your instruments pop out - which is the intention, I’d bet. I saw the comments joking about breaking bad’s Mexico filter, but it is that color for a very similar reason I’d bet - it’s an anxiety raising color palette
Love the yellow. I think it’s to interpret all recordings of jazz now and early on. There’s an interaction with brass when in contact with light that makes it sort of ‘shimmer’ this shimmer was usually the color of the light. This is why people like Dexter Gordon, Coltrane, Charlie Parker, Grover Washington and so many more Saxophonists love to play in yellow light.
the warm lighting is reminiscent of a concert hall, which is really cool and adds to the vibe of it, not sure if that’s intentionally what they were going for but it makes the movie feel more sophisticated and “big”
If you want to color grade your videos and photos like Whiplash and other movies - check out www.movieluts.com
did you name your website purposefully in order to make it seem like moviesluts
coz I totally thought you were called moviesluts for like a minute straight
Not quite my color, it’s all good. 1 2 3 and ….
I thought it said movie sluts
I read this as "moviesluts" lol
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the og is yellow to let the audience know that the movie actually takes place in mexico
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Underrated
Or middle east.
Saw someone on twitter say it takes place in the breaking bad universe
Whiplashing Bad directed by Vince Gilligan
The director said they chose this color because it makes the brass instruments pop and you can definitely see the difference. They almost look dull without color grading. Its amazing how much a single color can change a movie.
@Rorschach 0007 ikr, I was so confused reading the other comments.
@Rorschach 0007 whether or not it's intended or not isn't relevant, it still creates the effect.warm colour are more welcoming and inviting and the purpose of the scene is to make the club seem welcoming at first then it subverts your expectations
single color changes life, if you think about it and look at the photos of everyday life across the planet, you will notice different places on earth have different "tint", due to slightly different sun position in those areas... this later on have insane inpact on us, or the people living in different places around the globe
@Rorschach 0007 how is it contradictory to say it’s meant to subvert expectations?
@Rorschach 0007 relax it’s an opinion
They had to warm the picture to downplay the horror
Really
They had to put a filter cause it's so unrealistic already
@@user-xj2sm3xd5l It's actually not, but I can't go into detail about who the characters are based on because of multiple NDA's I had to sign. It's all very hush hush to say the least.
@@c4kefrosty862 yeah so believable 😂
@@c4kefrosty862 it actually is. That's a fun story you're trying to involve yourself in, but no dude.
I think the yellow makes it feel so much more surreal, Just like the scene is.
True, makes it more intense.
"chaotic" oh stop
Cause it subverts your expectations even more. Initially everything is nice and the lights are this warm yellow, makes you feel comfortable in a way. Then that is completely ripped from you when the chair is thrown.
@@Cc-bh3ye for me, I have a harder time processing what’s going on when it’s yellow. That makes everything more chaotic in my eyes.
It’s awful, any movie like that in opinion is unwatchable I can’t get past how utterly distracting it is.
The yellow is perfect. It's a bright, happy, and easy going/no stress color. Exactly what the movie is about
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Lmaooo
hahah
Whiplash is the most relaxing film I’ve ever watched. I usually put it on whilst I’m taking a nap
@@planeguy95 “Are you sleeping or are you napping or are you CLOSING YOUR FUCKING EYES?!”
I like to think of the alternate version where he doesn't see the chair coming and it just annihilates him. Everyone is freaking out at Fletcher, like
"what are you doing?"
"I dont know, trying to push him! Is he ok?"
"Ahhhh, so much blood! I can't feel my legs!!"
Fletcher goes to prison for Assualt and Battery, and Andrew spends the rest of his life in a chair, utterly confused and traumatized by his first day in class.
Lmao😂
lmfao
underrated comment, ty fore the laugh
i feel like easily that could be considered attempted assault.
@@Phil9874 are you being his hypothetical lawyer? Lol, already gonna get the cased dismissed 😂
This is like doing homework with your dad.
SO TRUE ☠💀☠💀
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Oh Jesus lmao
*DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT TWO TIMES TWO IS?*
Oh God, this comment awakened long-supressed memories within me. ☠️
When you were supposed to judge the color gradding but you got sucked in by the acting and the story.
So true! Got completely absorbed even in this video, even though I wanted to compare both the sides.This movie is a masterpiece.
Lmfao so true, just listening to Omni Man yell at another mark.💀
I did too. And waddya know, I was drawn towards the yellow side to watch lol.
Their in an old college building with no windows being lit by 2700k WARM incandescent light... this is how it's actually supposed to look.
i fucking know right
Not quite my color grade
I’m upset 😢
Top tier comment 😂
@@turn-me-laterSAY IT LOUDER!
@@jllh8197 IM UPSET!
@@turn-me-later LOUDER!!!
I think the yellow increases the jazz vibe. Often i associate yellow or orange lighting with calm and classy environments, combine that with a wooden room and you have the whole jazz package.
Certainly, numerous former band members have noted that the film's yellow tint evokes feelings of practicing once again. This is due to the keen understanding of the music conservatory environment by the film's director, Damien Chazelle, who himself was a former drummer. The yellow color serves to perfectly capture the intense, chaotic and high-pressure atmosphere of a music school.
Jazz is cool colors to me (I have synesthesia idk)
That Yellow Bastard, by Frank Miller.
Does no one else associate it with a dim blue?
Contrasted to the drama of the action; it creates a mesmerizing contrast.
The edited version makes it look like a short film.
I mean, the movie (specifically this scene) is based on a short film and it definitely didn’t have the yellow color grade lol
@@CharlieTooHuman What short film?
@@Shockkings0714 it's got the same name
@@DarKoGameplaysyMas Thanks
Yeah, we made a shorts comparison between the feature film and short film Whiplash, as many people were saying that.
as a horn player, I can tell you that 2:35 is 100% accurate when we start getting annoyed lol, totally done that before.
Clearly the yellow is meant to highlight Simmons insane forearms
Bro was jacked
And his bald head
His bald head gleamed in the amber light like a golden egg under the sun. It was poetic
No, you're wrong. I am going to a film school to be a colorist/editor. Now watch my hands. The yellow is a BOLD color almost like J.K. Simmons' head is BALD. You see?. Most of these people talking really don't understand film language and why things are colored the way they are
@@АлександрШтраух-ю5б don't use a joke as an excuse to brag that you're going to film school and are superior to us
I love how he starts off as such a nice teacher before the man becomes psycho
You can imagine any strict people with the same attitude
That's how they reel you in for maximum impact. I've worked with these toxic type personalities before, they'd be shouting at you if you make a mistake and then pretend to be your friend the next day
@@AC-iz7eh exactly it was done perfectly
You never really know what is going through someone's head, it's the stupid arrogance that people have that think others can mind read
That's one of the scariest things a manipulator or narcissist can do to you. First, they'll put you into the comfortable zone by being nice to them, and once they have your trust, then they'll immediately switch into psycho mode.
Didn't know *Omni-man* was chill like that
he is definitely not chill here
@jakebrown1066 still more chill than invincible though lol
Bro just say he chill ?!!
"Were you rush or dragging?! Think, Neiman! Think!"
@@MrShahrozzz if he was a viltrumite here and so was neiman i bet he would have been just as chill as he was in invincible
Completely forgot how hillariously psychopathic Fletcher was in this movie.
i liked this movie but like literally this would never happen IRL. this dude would have died in prison. lmao.
@@xxbrkdwnxx huh?
@@xxbrkdwnxx The guy is a gate way for people looking to succeed. Each of them want something bad enough to endure the psychological and physical abuse to obtain it. This literally happens every day in real life.
The yelling and psychological stuff is decently realistic imo but the slapping and throwing of the chair warrants an assault charge. Fletcher would 100% be investigated at that point.
@@xxbrkdwnxx lol ... uhh what? He did die in prison. Didn't you see the TV sequel OZ?
I must admit, Jeff Bezos did an incredible job portraying that character.
lmao.
that's bruce willis
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Man that was Vin Diesel he even did his famous arms out pose like he did in The Fast and The Furious. Drumming is drumming!
Hes just playing himself
as a musician, the warm yellow tone really invokes feelings of practicing/performing.
Watching this movie felt like one of those dreams you get where you feel helpless and everything’s going wrong
And then you're naked and your teeth fall out while you trip down an endless flight of stairs
not the movie for me
A dream? More like real life
Nightmare is the word
not really nothing went wrong its just this kid such an idiot
The importance of coloring, completely changes the atmosphere of how you perceive the film
Indeed!
Yeah especially in avp2.
yea, perceive it as yellow lol
@@thepoonhound3003
Found him.
Since I just watched it with natural color scheme, I can't stand the piss-yellow screen.
Not quite my yellow
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@@apamay did you just respond to an 8 month old comment
@@RenéSotoPenalba yes because i just saw it and thought it was funny. is that an issue.
You're a man of culture?
not quite my tint, neiman.
I think the director nailed it with the lighting. It really feels like the whole movie takes place in old academia, with practice spaces that haven't had a lighting update since 1945 and use extremely warm-color lightbulbs.
Agree!
and creaky floors
Warm colour lights are better
That would be the DP but I agree
jaundice jeff vs non jaundic jeff
The warm lighting greatly contrasts with the attitude of Fletcher. It seems warm and inviting, but it absolutely not. It is a cold cold environment.
That's a great analogy!
Does it not feel like it portrays the room as hot and stuffy to anyone else? With how much sweating is in this movie, I've always felt like it had to do with this never ending sense of stress and heat. The kind of heat that feels like pins and needles when it starts to build up on your skin.
The yellow can be that, along with triumph and happienss, but also can be related to sensations like dizziness, tiredness and, more or less in general, to being upset/annoyed, so it's useful in both ways the positive and the negative, specially in this scene where at the beggining is the warm and inviting and then feel like the tension and uneasiness as it progresses.
@@TheSpooky130
You nailed it. It’s not comforting at all, it’s suffocating.
Honestly it just makes me feel like I'm in an oven. Which is perfect.
If only studios that filmed in Mexico knew how to get rid of the yellow filter...
The school environment matches with yellow perfectly to me
True
You know what I think thats because of schoolbusses haha. Honestly
It’s the drowsiness that the colour conveys, being crushed by the psychological coils of an abusive, dread-inducing teaching environment
@@gabrieleporru4443
You’re right. That’s the word I was looking for, drowsiness, as well as stuffiness and mild discomfort. Uncomfortably warm and claustrophobic.
The yellow makes it look like there's a spotlight constantly shining on them.
Like every time they get on stage.
That's a nice analogy.
That's how it felt for me.
Doing this without the Raw footage takes a lot of skill. Respect to the editors.
Yeah how did they even do this lol?
One of the examples in film where color grading COMPLETELY improved the scene.
Agree!
They purpously filmed it with low light, kind of dark, and everything with the filter on mind. If it wasn't like that then any movie with a yellow filter would be better.
This isn’t a color grade, just adjusted the white balance of the video is all. A room lit by tungsten lights should look yellow, no point correcting it to look natural, defeats the whole purpose
@@gowtham12349they did use a color grade? i’m not sure what you’re saying here. they didn’t just want yellow lights, they wanted the entire movie tinted over,
@Dr. Merchant the scene is great. You blind?
"Why'd you suppose I hurled a chair at your head Neiman?
Neiman: "Cause you are fucking insane!?!?"
valid response 😂
Yeah, this really sums up why I hate this movie so much. Everyone just acts like a robot about seeing their bandmates abused, physically and verbally, on a daily basis. No one in this movie seems human except for the main character and his father.
@@JoeyJojoJrJr that's very intentional?
@@GlitzPixie I'm sure it is, but it robs the movie, IMO, of a lot of authenticity, and what we're left with is just kind of a morality play or even just a fairy tale.
@@JoeyJojoJrJr I don't think it's unrealistic and I personally find the movie interesting
I got anxious just waiting for "Not quite my tempo"
The contrast made me realize how yellow the movie actually is, it's surprisingly something you get used to I guess
Right? You dont think about it its like what color was the movie idk movie!?!
It's actually not entirely yellow - scenes where Andrew is under the thumb of Fletcher and in the pursuit of musical greatness are heavily tinted yellow, which is the majority - scenes where andrew is dejected and defeated, or straying from his pursuit, are tinted blue - and finally scenes where Andrew is in connection with his family, namely his dad, are tinted green.
@@pootytang69ya the scenes are only ever yellow when they’re in the classroom which is in the basement, like hell is underground. Fletcher is the devil.
Yup, me too. The difference is pretty significant.
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Probably
The yellow grading makes it look "jazzy" which is fitting for a movie about jazz.
True
3:36 he sounds exactly like Bryan Cranston with this line
lol yes
That’s what I said
Too high
“I am the danger!”
"I ask you to be on tempo, and you think youre on tempo? No,Neiman, you are not on my tempo, Neiman, YOU'RE NOT ON MY TEMPO!"
Literally paused the video. Watched the whole movie. Now, back to the video
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@@kalamarkos bro is so insecure, he likes his own comments😢
Without the yellow it feels like a normal film and the movie would probably have the same reception from its writing. The yellow gives the movie a very luxurious vibe like fine art
its jazz colour. the brass of the instruments.
Nope the director did it because it shows mental issues like obsesion etc.@@ZsH85
yellow like a cymbals
Writing was amazing stupidddd Bo boo beaer
It does not.
Right off the bat, the cymbals, the brass instruments and even the chrome hardware (stands, nuts, drum hoops) on the drum set _really_ pop in the original.
2:58 When I asked my dad for help on my Math Homework
The whole movie is constructed on two atmospheres. A yellow tone is used when he is in the "music" world, and a blue tone in the "outer" world. There’s one or two times in the movie where the colours swap or get mixed, and it always means something. I can’t fully detail it cause it’s been quite a while since I’ve seen Whiplash, but it was really interesting to study
Hence the name, whiplash, swinging from one extreme to the other.
There's also a small handful of green scenes, typically whenever Andrew's focus is on his father - yellow means his focus is on music/fletcher - blue is turning his focus away from music (the love interest) and scenes where he is wanting to give up.
The yellow tone was used to show when Andrew was stepping into hell which was the classroom in the underground in the basement and the devil would orchestrate his students 😅
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That room DID feel pretty claustrophobic, now that I think about it.
Where did you get this info? I’d like to look into it further
I have never noticed the yellow filter until now.
Yeah, when it’s in a sequence you don’t notice it as it helps serve the story. Only when you see a comparison like this you notice it.
Honestly I love how the warm color of the movie not only contrasts with its dark story and characters, but also pairs so nicely with jazz as a music genre
Actually, the yellow conveys a sense of stuffiness, claustrophobia, drowsiness, stress, and uncomfortable heat. Those feelings go quite nicely with the theme of the movie.
what is these English literature analysis lol. Everybody has perceptions but the yellow was chosen to enhance the look of the instruments
@@ym5180 You know, it’s possible for there to be multiple causes of something. Sure, the main reason they used yellow was to enhance the instruments, but it’s likely that the skilled creative team also used the lighting and color grading to enhance the mood/tone of the story.
Warm like urine
I think it's incredible that even though JK Simmons has also played a world-conquering genocidal superman, Fletcher is still his scariest role
Out of curiosity, I recorded the teacher's count in at about 2:10 to establish his tempo. His tempo is about 0.338 s between claps. After the drummer plays about a bar, the teacher says "dragging-just a hair". But when I extended this count in and played it over the band, the drummer is actually rushing significantly. To be specific, the drummer _is_ a tad late on the first beat (maybe 15 ms; the trumpet comes in a little earlier, which is closer to on time), but then the drummer lurches forward to catch up and rushes from then on out. At 338 ms per beat, 4 beats should take the drummer 1.352 s to finish, but he manages to get through 4 beats in only ~1.225 s, so he was not dragging like the teacher suggested. JK Simmons is just repeating script dialog here, not reacting on the fly to what the music is doing.
FYI, I only checked that one spot because I thought it was interesting that the drummer supposedly changed from rushing to dragging. From a story perspective, of course, it could be that the teacher was intentionally trolling the drummer just to mess with him.
Yeah, we can say he was purposely lying to prove the drummer, could be on charater
depends if you watched it in NTSC or PAL
@@angeljj2129 haha. It works either way and I love it. I mean, a normal person wouldn’t recognize it anyhow, but it doesn’t matter if he’s lying or not, it all fits his characyer
@@mstyle2006 this is absolutely not a joke I was expecting to see here lmao
@@nickpisoni5057 :-)
not quite my color. here we go.
good lol
J.K. Simmons is extremely good at yelling
Something I find really impressive about this movie is how accurately it captures-albeit with absurdly over-the-top theatrics and chair-throwing-the terrifying dynamic between perfectionist conductors and student musicians. I played in several ensembles in middle school, high school, and college, including out of school and at the regional level, and the fits of outrage, and attempts of the students who weren’t the subjects of that outrage to avoid drawing any attention to themselves, is spot on. Karl’s actor (who is a professional drummer in real life!) absolutely NAILS his unspoken role in this scene with the look of serious concentration on his face as he looks sideways at Nieman’s sheet music while Fletcher ratchets up the intensity of his criticism. Be neither seen nor heard but pretend you are sympathetic to the conductor’s point.
i am better at drums than you either way.
@@christoth2705 alright chris
@@christoth2705 alright chris
@@christoth2705 alright chris
I experienced this too, but i finished my studies in the 80's. There is no way a professor could behave that way in todays music schools, or even when the film is supposedly set without being fired and then sued. I find that quite incongruous.
it makes it feel more like a memory rather than a class session.
The yellow is an embodiment of everyone nearly pissing themselves
daaamn i didnt know this was filmed in mexico!!!! bravo vince
Today I learned
Haha Bravo Vince Gilligan brilliant writing
Original!
Thing I love most about the yellow tint is how good the drum kit looks. Seeing the drops of sweat literally being moved by the symbols, the bass drum just pounding, the whole set moving. I think the color grading is great. Gave the film a personality. Fantastic film! Made me wanna pick up Sax again from high school.
I haven’t watched the movie yet so for me I didn’t even notice the edited one. It's like the yellow colour gave it another power.
I actually love the yellow. A live band or orchestra in the pit is also usually under a warm light to be less invasive so it feels thematically appropriate.
I've never been in a band and I don't play an instrument, but screaming like that is a good way to get a drumstick in the eye.
It's actually such a perfect artistic choice.
Original is so much better, but I appreciate your effort to show how it would look like non-graded.
Agree!
@@movieluts How did you remove the yellow affect anyway?
@@AlchemistOfNirnroot reverse engineering the color grade in Premiere Pro and Davinci Resolve, this will be covered in our course and we will upload some TH-cam videos about it.
Non-graded would probably look a lot less contrasty and less saturated as well.
Great effect for sure, but I think the yellow gives a bit more personality to the scene
Brilliant demonstration, only got half way through and ended up rewatching the whole film
One thing I love about this scene is that it shows the headspace a musician is in when they get flustered during a rehearsal. The biggest thing I noticed was how when Fletcher started focusing on Andrew individually, he eventually tried to come in on the downbeat of Fletcher's count-off rather than actually using the count-off for what it is. I think most musicians have dealt with an instructor that has been inconsistent in the way they count off which can lead to confusion in the future, even when a student is presented with an instructor who is extremely consistent with their count-offs.
The huge thing here is how generally when something like this happens, a good instructor will recognize that the student is getting flustered and either let them cool off or change up the approach they're taking when giving individual instruction. The thing is, despite Fletcher's impressive resume he is *not* a good instructor and either fails to recognize that his method of hyper-fixating on something that no audience member or fictional jazz judge would ever notice is detrimental to his student's progress or even worse he recognizes this and chooses to continue anyways. I personally think the latter of the options is most likely, as I think it's pretty clear throughout the film that Fletcher's primary motivation is producing one of the greats and he thinks that this hyper-fixation and ignoring of reasonable teaching practices is the way to do so.
He's absolutely fucking with Nieman deliberately - he play-acted nice to get Nieman to tell him his insecurity about his parents, and then used it against him - the only thing I'd take issue with is Fletcher's core motivation. Fletcher may tell himself he's trying to produce one of the greats, but I believe he has a deep need to abuse his students to feel powerful, possibly because he feels inadequate for not being one of the greats himself, and "producing great musicians" is just a flimsy justification for conducting psychological warfare on teenagers.
@@LeoTheMonts I think it's fair to say that Fletcher most likely has some kind of deeper motivation behind the way he acts, I just didn't notice anything in the film which would indicate that he took pleasure in the way he treats his students. For example with the trombone player it almost seems like genuine disgust, which obviously isn't okay but I don't think the film was trying to show Fletcher as someone with any deeper motivation for the way he acts.
Ooh, just JK Simmons' performance makes me think he takes pleasure in it. Especially the at the end, when he lures Nieman back into the band just to get his revenge by making him learn the wrong song. That's not about making anyone a better musician, that's about power. @@sebastianrasor
@@LeoTheMonts Honestly I think it's possible to take pleasure in revenge but not take pleasure in the other parts. The revenge, for Fletcher, is satisfying because he feels like Nieman has wronged him and is "getting what he deserves." That's just a generally satisfying state of mind for any individual.
@@sebastianrasor Sure, it just seems to me that Fletcher gets a lot of satisfaction out of abusing the students throughout the entire film too. In my mind, Fletcher wouldn't have that kind of force of emotion behind berating Nieman if it weren't personal in some way. When someone is that committed to something, they've got to have a deeper, more personal motivation, and I think Fletcher's is a need to abuse others to feel powerful. Your viewpoint on it isn't wrong though; I just like talking about these things because I'm a writer and director :)
The yellow adds “jazz” to the movie and makes the shots of symbols more vibrant
3:03 "why do you think i just gooned in your cave Neeman?"
this shit aint relatable bro
@@Eternal_Ten speak for yourself
"I-I don't know"
This movie is so intense lol at times I couldn’t wait for a scene to be over because it felt like I was actually there watching someone keep screwing up. Amazing job by all actors and writers.
Welp, that's a nice reminder to re-watch this movie. Haven't seen it in years, and thanks to this video I'll be able to appreciate it even more. Thank you for your work ❤️
Thanks, it's a great movie!
3:25 what's the most impressionable thing on thatscene is how much people are willing to take and drag themselves in the mud for a long term goal in which they feel are in the middle of.
Not quite my yellow.
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The yellow makes it almost like it's a dream
True, gives a bit of a dreamy feel.
Idk color theory but I think the yellow captures the “sweaty jazz” theme of this movie
I'm not sure why but I never noticed just how yellow it actually is.
Your eyes get used to it while watching the movie.
IKR? It’s literally soaked, drenched, drowned, COVERED in yellow 😂
thats the day in the life of an asian kid
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4:40 That's when you hit him with a sorry your breath smells like you ate a dog out this morning 😂
Apparently, yellow can sometimes be used to portray jealousy and fear, and I think the yellow in this scene really shows that. It really presents Andrew's fear of Fletcher's incredibly violent and ruthless methods which he uses to force the potential of perfection out of him - that fear eventually bubbles into jealousy which drives him over the edge and causes him to burn all his bridges just to become the very thing Fletcher wanted him to be. Perfection.
they chose the color so that they can the brass instruments pop...since the movie is about jazz and all
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In this instance, yes. However, that doesn’t mean it was the only reason, nor does it invalidate other examples of broad themes being physically represented.
Perfection is not achievable by humans. Anyone who says differently is a fool who believes lies without introspection.
Yellow can also mean bile. Because Fletcher is as caustic as bile salts
Breaking Bad has all the Mexico scenes in yellow because yellow was used as a visual que that anything could happen. Most of the most transformative scenes utilized yellow in a way to show the grim reaper was hovering very close. Walter White's basement scene involved a dozen yellow prompts, especially his shirt and the plate that led to his first kill.
In this movie, it appears yellow is to show Andrew is in the "frying pan" and things are heating up. Instead of going red or orange, however, it's an almost unsettlingly sick yellow. It's just a little to overpowering, which is why I think so many people have attempted to color correct it to see the difference. You're supposed to think it's an uncomfortable and overbearing color grade, because that's the point. We feel like we want it gone, just like Andrew wants the feeling of anxiety when dealing with the madman gone.
This looks just like the short film from 2013
Exactly, although the set design and lighting still make a difference.
I'M UPSET
Jesus, I forgot how powerful was this scene to me, I had a teacher that used this exact technique when I was new at school, and the pressure didn’t stop for a whole year. She really put me on another level, above everyone in every school aspect, but is kind of the reason I have so much anxiety, trouble with authority, and depression lol
Yeah everyone always claims that this is the kind of necessary abuse to make a great artist. And that may be the case!... Except for the other complications from the abuse.
@@SlothAndKami If this shit is what is needed to make a great artist, we need to lower our standards of a what a great artist is.
So is it worth it?
@@kingwrightdev Do we? It's much like the philosophy that Militaries use to harden and focus their soldiers, and it's a time tested method. Now, the intensity here is not nearly as high as say, USMC boot camp or British Military, but it's that philosophy.
@@AlyssMa7rin For making music? no. we do not. It makes sense in a military situation because they'll be under even higher stress in the battlefield.
Wow didn't know the colour could change scenes so much ,these two offer such different emotions
Had a dream to join a band. Now i dont.
This guy woke up and said "fuck it" *unmexicans your whiplash
i would like to see this with a blue-ish grade to it. I think that'd change alot
Hmm, that would be interesting
@@movieluts plss
Dude his forearms look crazy, this dude ripped
It still looks really good when not yellow, which is a testament to the lighting quality. The color grading makes it phenomenal.
The drums cymbals look so much more vibrant and golden in the original (reference, pause at 1:57)
A good demonstration on how color grading can totally change the tone and feel of the film by nurturing emotions.
I like the warm lighting, it makes you feel as comfortable as Neiman is before a chair gets hurled at him. When you take that away, you're instinctually anticipating something sinister is about to happen with Fletcher's pale face floating in the background. Without that warmth and misdirection, whether intentional or not, it's as though there's less deception.
Not really. The yellow induces mainly negative emotions in this scene.
@@josephrusso4828 I feel like we only tap into this idea that it's used negatively after we've seen the movie and know what's about to happen, in this scene we don't really know what's about to happen yet. And foreboding the impending deceptiveness of an abusive teacher could certainly be described as negative. But I'm not trying to objectively say that the lighting is going to get the same subjective emotional response from the viewer either, I was mostly just making a joke at how it could be used to build the scene up for a an even better climax when we are shown the real Fletcher.
@@wsigned1323 Its not really subjective, though. Yes, it feels warm, but uncomfortably warm, suffocating or even claustrophobic. It also feels a bit drowsy. Also, the context of the film influences our view of the colors but the grading itself does indicate an odd, warm sensation.
"WHAT ARE YOU, IN A FUCKING ACAPELLA GROUP?! PLAY THE GODDAMN KIT!!!"
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I only now realized that they used yellow in this scene because it symbolizes fear, it took me a while to realize the use of this color.
The yellow for some reason makes it more intense.
totally agree
I didn't notice how much of a difference the yellow made. It makes it feel a lot more intense for some reason. I found myself about half way through just watching the scene on the left side and ignoring the right lol
Same 😂
The one of the left is a nod to simmons’s work as the yellow M&M
4:00 Oh no it’s Omni-Man! 😟
I always acknowledged the yellow but never noticed just how strong it was until I saw it side-by-side with this kind of edit. Super great work! Although I will say, like many others here I much prefer the yellow as it sort of sets the mood and makes it much more visually interesting. The edit feels much less vibrant --- dull. It's so crazy how colors can do that
The yellow is kind of overwhelming, though. It’s a bit too much when compared to a regular background. On its own, however, it works pretty well.
The color of jazz, it's beautiful
Yellow makes it feel chaotic and almost like a sweaty fever.
The original made it feel like the whole movie took place late at night. It made it feel very detached from the grey blue of the early Nassau band scenes
The edited feels like an apple commercial
The yellow version is crazy because when things are happy and the drummer even receives a compliment, it feels like a warm and nice ambience. But after things get -very- tense, it turns into intensity, fever and even a liver illness. The acting of these artists give the illusion that the color saturation is increasing throughout the song. The exaggeration on the orange tones of the skin and the contrast between a warm color and a stressful situation works excelente. It could also be look like The Simpson's live action.
The ungraded version on the right. With beautiful cold colors and whites that are white, looks more what it would look like if it really happened. So it makes more sense, so there is less tension between that that the high stress level argument on an intense bright color. Like not just warm but HOT. The cold tones cool it down.
It is very interesting to see, thanks for taking the hours in and sharing eventough it might be demonitaized but you've got a new sub for sure.
Thanks for reading too, I smoked the hell out of Hulk's finger.
When I think of ensemble practice I think of a light blue/the lighting on the right side, because that’s mostly what band/orchestra rooms are.
When I think of performances, the lighting in the movie is EXACTLY what I think of. It is the EXACT hue and tone of lighting every performance I’ve ever given has had. And anxiety is higher when you’re given a yellow tint that makes you pop out and makes your instruments pop out - which is the intention, I’d bet.
I saw the comments joking about breaking bad’s Mexico filter, but it is that color for a very similar reason I’d bet - it’s an anxiety raising color palette
Love the yellow. I think it’s to interpret all recordings of jazz now and early on. There’s an interaction with brass when in contact with light that makes it sort of ‘shimmer’ this shimmer was usually the color of the light. This is why people like Dexter Gordon, Coltrane, Charlie Parker, Grover Washington and so many more Saxophonists love to play in yellow light.
yellow's a warm colour, raises the temperature of the already stressful scene, making it worse.
5:22 *Drake chimes in* “fifty thousand on my head its disrespect”
This aged well
Whiplash isn't yellow anymore? I'M UPSET!!!
the warm lighting is reminiscent of a concert hall, which is really cool and adds to the vibe of it, not sure if that’s intentionally what they were going for but it makes the movie feel more sophisticated and “big”
Holy shit. I'm so glad my conductor is a nice person. This is like a nightmare 💀💀