Eugen Weber was a historian of Modern Europe but he was also a brilliant student of the Greek and Latin Classics. He belonged to a generation that learned to read before taking a Ph.D. Absolutely wonderful-thank you for posting.
Thank you so much! You're right, these classic academic videos have such a unique and captivating vibe. The depth and style really give them a distinctive charm!
Wisom is achieved with Conscious Thought - "with a Standard of Truths and Ethics" - When one ponders this - the alternative being Human Ego Mind - the Adolescent Mind - regardless that this appears among Adults - one can recognize the Judgemental Ego in a plague across Public Comment Venues - Mature Mind is of Conscious Thought and when education is applied - Wisdom grows Roots... 💫
Humility represents (intended or not) a strategy to prevent yourself from making foolish mistakes. By delineating your own ignorance, limitations or motivation (etc.) you nip any criticism against your position in the bud, by cutting off the possibility that your own arrogance can spin a web of morally indignant self-delusions, to which errors you yourself are blind. Pride goeth before a fall, as it says in the Bible.
2:09 "Many sophists were considered too clever by half, and critical, and subversive because they were willing to follow an argument wherever it might lead them. When you go all out after truth you cannot tell in advance whether the truth will be something that society would like it to be."-Eugene Weber
Greek language due to its etymological base,it promotes the analytical thinking,it has no accent and almost all words actually mean something that can be etymologically proved.Philosophy and Medical Science are applications of that function. I recommend to anyone who seeks answers,learn Greek and study the words
learn study etymologi and all this word that u think are greece in Albanian u can understand the mean of the word and decoding the word. remember there was no greek in bc. if u know history
@@lovetrancemusic6859 If it was that way,Albanian would be as popular as the Hellenic..I think your motivations are nationalistic..sorry but I'm not convinced
@@barkmatter4389 ok in history thieves win. can u try with Google translate? Albanian to English and try: Aphrodite but in Albanian PH=F so try Afro (the verb Afron is better)and Dite. Paride, try Pari. De in Albanian is interjection for: SO HIM google dont translate this. Priam or Prijam try Prij try Jam. but the bigest Helene He in albaia is just E = of try LENE. google dont translate 100% means leave of or she was left. i can explain hundreds words that u think are greece in Albanian today, only prob is Google translate and u dont know Albanian, if u know Iliad and Odise was translatet in Germany by an Albanian and Odise look the statue he have a 'PLIS' in his head try PLIS in google images
We need more men like him who are willing to spread his teachings out side of the four wall of a University. At the present the masses are living in a great ignorance just worried in satisfying the hunger of the body and materialistic demands.
I'm kind of stunned by how many of Plato's ideas have made it whole cloth into modern Christian teaching.... Thank you for posting this. Going to flag it for rewatch.
Love Eugen Weber!! Been watching this guy for 50 years, and I remember the first time I walked into the den where my father, if not reading, had PBS on and was watching one of Weber's shows, and my first thought was, "Why is dad watching Harvey Korman do one of his German accent comedy routines?".......then I realized this was a REAL professor.
The brilliance of men in an era where technology was none existent, customs, culture and sharing of research among intellects around the world was not an option.
Racist and sexist MEN, yes highly likely given their "inbred brilliance" (= lack of outside CRITICISM and pursuing a closed type select agenda (= Greek males favoured in Greek education and cultural authority ; the Environment of closed technical and socially selective knowledge.. no wonder what was left stymied acritical peoples everywhere since)..
15:01 Thales of Miletus (german: Thales von Milet) 16:00 Geometry as a memory of ideal World - eternal World of Ideas - prototypes of the Real World 17:20 out of their (the Ideas) shadow 17:40 "Physicists" - Thales, Anaximander (his Prime Mover of Life), 19:12 Plato tried to produce a more accessible version of the eternal G. 19:20 ideal reality is perfect, because unchangeable=immutable, the objects all around are inferior, because they change all the time 20:00 the divine mind that moves the heaven 21:16 We come from the stars (Timaeus) and go to "the celestial city" 22:05 ivory tower 22:25 Roman fresco: Aristotle and his school + Human body? 23:50 Paidea
I love the argument of Socrates about the credibility of God and most importantly, I appreciate his timely intervention on the importance of reason. If we apply this today I am sure the brainwashing we suffer from our societies might as well be dealt with. Thanks for this video and I need many more on the different teachings of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle.
The reason why Philosophy was held in such esteem IMO is that it provided them with a problem solving toolkit for tackling their day to day issues. Edward De Bono makes much use of these tools in his creative thinking books. Even today Project Management skills are held in high regards and utilise the very same processes.
Pedro, you may want to look at the painting 'The School of Athens' in the Vatican, used by the Church to discredit reason, where Aristotle ( Plato's student) is pointing downward to the Earth and Plato (Socrates student) is pointing upwards to the Heavens !
1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God. As the Scriptures say, “He traps the wise in the snare of their own cleverness.”
Don't go off on a psychic trip though good friend - that's important. Plato says Life is an Illusion for practical - not spiritual - reasons. It is a matter of fact; he says: that we accept much common opinion without testing its validity, meaning that baloney gets through to be taken for reality with the consequence that what we take for reality is false making our World unreal. To live in the real world requires elimination of baloney - that's all. He also points out that everything in the world is imperfect compared to the forms we use to educate ourselves about what our senses tell us. Popularisation of the false idea that he is some kind of mystic is how the powerful put us off the scent - just another shadow on the cave wall - of what he was really getting at. To reach for “The Good” - Plato’s conclusion as to our human meaning and purpose entails identification of the oppressors - being the ones who cast the shadows on the cave wall - and revealing them for what they really are. It is summarised in The Wizard of Oz when Toto pulls the curtain aside to cause a revolution by revelation not violence.
I know Thrasymachus; he works at my uncle Aristotle’s souvlaki joint (whenever he decides to come in). That guy’s a big grouch: he’s always picking on the other waiters and the kitchen staff, and he shouts at the customers. Uncle Ari and his business partner Pericles have been firing and re-hiring ‘Mac’ a couple of times a week for the past twenty-five years - the customers call it ‘the Peloponnesian Wars’...
Oh how I LOVE Socrates! Ever since I read my first book him when I was 14.. I wish this lecture was 3 hours long, I'd listen happily!! But thanks for these glorious 24 minutes anyhow!
Hi dear, lovely video. Could you please let me know the Aristotle statue location in Athens, I am planning to go in November, found on internet Socrotes and Plato statues location at Academy of Athens. Please help if anyone knows. Regards
L-GUN , some won't cut it. Lemme tell you why: #23:19, God brings them out of Egypt as He has strength like a wild ox. In Joel'3 .5 already are gone, because you have taken it away and carried beyond. Also the people of Judah and the people of Jerusalem, you have sold to the Greeks, and no one realize that 2:21 days of Hosea has become a proverb of 31:10, that no one can buy or sell except One who has the 3nity of Mark the name and the # of his name. Because wisdom is translated BG: malko da imash za da Vi idva na vreme as a command.
For anyone who’s interested in the rest of these lectures, this is part of the course “The Western Tradition” produced by WGBH for the Annenberg Foundation. Other episodes can be easily found online.
@@tham4378 yes but when he describes forms for example pyramid or πυραμις in Greek which means fire he describe it through a perfect triangle and fire was of the first forces of the creator,those are in Τιμαιος he even said about οπή which means hole and about oscillations.
@@ΜιχΛαζ the image you display on your profile explains everything regarding sense/perception and this encompasses the whole philosophy, not only of Plato. But to enter into the dialogue with him O Aristos kai Telios mentions that in the case of plane figures is the definition of their form. As without geometry none can enter the school of Athens. So when you say a sphere(drop of water) it is the same as saying circle, when you say a cube it is the same as a square. So all forms originate from the sphere, as it is the most perfect of them all. Now, a point without magnitude but with rythm, occupying no space(as perception does) but is only volume(sensation, feeling, unchanging, common to all beings, constants).O Pythagoras used to explain Mathematics into four branches, arithmetics, music, astronomy and the spherics. The square when divided by the side, as modern science measures, the division arrives at the infinitely small unit, without an objective, no center just according to necessity. On the other hand if divided by the diagonal as commanded by the diameter you can find to find the center or Atomo( the undivisible), where man is the model of the world as depicted geometrically by superimposing two images, one upon the other on the Vitruvius Man of Leonardo Da Vinci. So the challenge of squaring the circle is dogma(meaning one method) or kanonas epi nous, how to find the atom has eternally been solved by the great Philosophers and it is something that can never be achieved by the physicians nowdays. Atomo being the point with rythm can be measured by word through cuneiform script, it’s properties are dual as a raport between the diagonal and the side of the square as depicted in Thales theorem. All raports represent elements precisely measured geometrically by a2=b2+c2 and physically e=mc2.
The Greeks Thales, Hippocrates, Pythagoras, Socrates,and Plato all traveled to (Africa), they studied at the temple-universities Waset and Ipet Isut te. Each stayed 20 years or more to complete their training.
Finding the truth doesn't just set you free it sets everyone free - except those who are happier with the comfort blanket of what they've been told to think - most people alas!
Salam and Greetings. It was an interesting and academic lecture about philosophy, as well as, there are some criticisms about Aristotle, Socrates and Plato's philosophy. Design and structure of modern democracy also have come from political ideas of Aristotle and Socrates' philosophy. When you listen and to read their books about political philosophy, they started their journey from point A and ended to point A, but not point B. Geometrically their philosophy and political ideas were designed like a circle 🔵 shape. That's why they had many gods, but not One True God. The modern democracy is also inspired by Aristotle and Socrates' philosophy. Their philosophy about Wisdom is academic but in some places their wisdom was based on materials.
No sir. Apologies for the down-vote, but the whole point is that Socrates is completely human, he is just not; and never could be: the psychological colony of another. He lives in reality because he does not accept anything as true unless he can authenticate it through reasoned examination - the dielectic - whereas everyone else, or nearly everyone else, accepts commonly held belief as being true precisely because they tell each other it is. The Socrateses who know we are believing lies try to tell us, but we resent them for making waves, for stopping the show, for going against the grain, for being deliberately disruptive and all these things in the mind of the many kill off Socrates's revelations and we continue to be brainwashed and determined to say so - this is why Plato says "The unexamined life is not worth living." We are psychological creatures of another in that case, which is unnatural, whilst dead Socrates - who we psychologically worthless others killed - was possessed of himself, thus fulfilling himself for our benefit which is the thing that is the most natural and good goal of all.
@@lmwaters9617 I'd love to take credit but it's not a word I came up with. But I like it too, its basically just phrases that sound deep but have no thought put into them.
Hey look, it's Hedley Lamarr, ( blazing saddles) used to watch, Eugene Weber, on PBS, ( years ago) simply becasue he looked like ,Harvey Korman... Glad i did.
Thanks for sharing. I really did enjoy that. More than I expected. He cleared up a few things I had been wondering about concerning the ancient Greeks and also showed where the Genesis for some central Christian ideas come from such as the heavenly perfect city.
The celestial realm is not to be confused with Religion - some kind of heaven - it is a postulation on why it might be that perfect forms - such as the triangle - appear in the mind alone and not in the sensory world. He thinks the same about the complex forms - such as justice - and that by understanding and approximating the form of it in the sensory world we get pursuit of the good. Because the body and this fully equipped mind in which perfected forms appear come together from these seemingly different realms at birth he wonders if they separate at death, and due to the unchangingness of the forms that there is no decaying of them so the mind could be thought of as continuing to exist. Should his speculation be true the psyche would abide somewhere - maybe not a material somewhere - so lets call it the celestial city, but he doesn't claim this as truth, just an image. There is no "Heaven" about it because there is no epistemology that helps establish the existence of heaven, the idea of which is no more than the doxa in Platonic parlance - opnion not truth.
*Eugen Joseph Weber (1925 - 2007) was a great U.C.L.A. professor: ¡3:23 am Pacific Daylight Savings Time on Wednesday, 3 November 2021 Common Era or CE formerly known as Ano Domini or AD!*
Misleading title. There was very, very little Aristotle. In fact, he was mentioned only, nothing more. But the presentation of Platonic ideas was good. I'd be interested in finding the rest of this (whole, without the choppy cutting-down for Generation Dim-wit).
1:20 did he mean the 6th century BC? cause the 5th century BC ended in 401 BC and that was the year before socrates died, obviously after the sophists...
Does anybody know what this lecture series is? I'm sure I saw it on TV ages ago and really want to try and get a copy. It's a long series on the history of western civilisation I'm pretty sure. Anyone know the title? Lecturer?
It's ok, I worked it out, "The Western Tradition" by Eugene Weber (if you wanted to know). Aired on PBS 1989 apparently. th-cam.com/video/kAxqva6Ofj4/w-d-xo.html
What a wonderful and insightful lecture. I just wish it had not that distraction of mindless cacophony in the background, pushing itself too far into the foreground at times.
This is one of the most interesting discussions I have ever been witness to. Thank You to all involved.
Being a Assistant Professor of Political Science this 24 min Video is like precious treasure.
Because your education didn't bring you any "education" at all?
is there many left leaning/democrats taking that class?
@Mike Hansen 👀
@Mike Hansen alrighty then go on and define the word.
Nobody else can.
Surprise me.
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@Mike Hansen whas the holdup? English your second language¿
("educated" guess.... from your sentence structure😂)
Eugen Weber was a historian of Modern Europe but he was also a brilliant student of the Greek and Latin Classics. He belonged to a generation that learned to read before taking a Ph.D. Absolutely wonderful-thank you for posting.
Dorian Philotheates 😄funny!
Marcos 989 - Yes. (1925-2007).
Thank you for identifying the speaker, Eugene Weber.
Lokman Merican - Eugen Weber (pronounced, ‘Oi’- gehn Vay’- bah). You’re welcome.
no actually this dude is crap.
Used to run into Eugene Weber on PBS and would stop whatever I was doing to listen with rapt enthusiasm. Thanks... please sir, may we have another!
What a great lecture/documentary, these old academic videos got a vibe which i love.
Thank you so much! You're right, these classic academic videos have such a unique and captivating vibe. The depth and style really give them a distinctive charm!
..wisdom could be taught even to the poorest or the humblest..
If there's anything I've learnt is that the humblest are humble for a reason.. wisdom
Wisom is achieved with Conscious Thought - "with a Standard of Truths and Ethics" -
When one ponders this - the alternative being Human Ego Mind - the Adolescent Mind - regardless that this appears among Adults - one can recognize the Judgemental Ego in a plague across Public Comment Venues -
Mature Mind is of Conscious Thought and when education is applied - Wisdom grows Roots...
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Humility represents (intended or not) a strategy to prevent yourself from making foolish mistakes. By delineating your own ignorance, limitations or motivation (etc.) you nip any criticism against your position in the bud, by cutting off the possibility that your own arrogance can spin a web of morally indignant self-delusions, to which errors you yourself are blind. Pride goeth before a fall, as it says in the Bible.
I truly believe this
Deep
Why do people have this idea that the more profound something sounds, the more profound it is.
2:09 "Many sophists were considered too clever by half, and critical, and subversive because they were willing to follow an argument wherever it might lead them. When you go all out after truth you cannot tell in advance whether the truth will be something that society would like it to be."-Eugene Weber
Following ideas is not the summom bonum of life, nor of a good life or society. There is wisdom in the body, cells, instincts, tradition, etc.
I throughly enjoyed this short lecture. I should like to see and hear more from this Professor.
I have been looking for this. Watched it decades ago and am very glad to find it again!😊😎
do you happen to know the name of the lecturer?
@@cookie-dough-fox69 Eugene Weber. Know it's been a while but still. Cheers!
Dittos
Brilliant!
Presented the core ideas so well.
Helped me a lot.
Thank you so much!
Dude that was amazing!!! I wish we had another 3hours of this, my gosh this just explained so much!
Greek language due to its etymological base,it promotes the analytical thinking,it has no accent and almost all words actually mean something that can be etymologically proved.Philosophy and Medical Science are applications of that function.
I recommend to anyone who seeks answers,learn Greek and study the words
Greek language has accent. ( this is why there came 5 accents in the koine years to show the way to accent)
learn study etymologi and all this word that u think are greece in Albanian u can understand the mean of the word and decoding the word. remember there was no greek in bc. if u know history
Love Trance correct
@@lovetrancemusic6859 If it was that way,Albanian would be as popular as the Hellenic..I think your motivations are nationalistic..sorry but I'm not convinced
@@barkmatter4389 ok in history thieves win. can u try with Google translate? Albanian to English and try: Aphrodite but in Albanian PH=F so try Afro (the verb Afron is better)and Dite. Paride, try Pari. De in Albanian is interjection for: SO HIM google dont translate this. Priam or Prijam try Prij try Jam. but the bigest Helene He in albaia is just E = of try LENE. google dont translate 100% means leave of or she was left. i can explain hundreds words that u think are greece in Albanian today, only prob is Google translate and u dont know Albanian, if u know Iliad and Odise was translatet in Germany by an Albanian and Odise look the statue he have a 'PLIS' in his head try PLIS in google images
What an amazing lecturer.
We need more men like him who are willing to spread his teachings out side of the four wall of a University.
At the present the masses are living in a great ignorance just worried in satisfying the hunger of the body and materialistic demands.
Beautifully explained and delivered! Thank You Sir.
This was great !
I'm kind of stunned by how many of Plato's ideas have made it whole cloth into modern Christian teaching.... Thank you for posting this. Going to flag it for rewatch.
Plato is a infj
Simply Because Philosophy is Mother Of All Sciences and Theology (religion).
man this was awesome! really enjoyed this.
This man deserves a beer
Maybe 2 beers !
Brilliant narrator! Such a straight face and his emphasis on pronouncing a certain word...oh my it almost kill me
I propose that ALL men deserve a beer ..
Love Eugen Weber!!
Been watching this guy for 50 years, and I remember the first time I walked into the den where my father, if not reading, had PBS on and was watching one of Weber's shows, and my first thought was, "Why is dad watching Harvey Korman do one of his German accent comedy routines?".......then I realized this was a REAL professor.
So far about 6 people mentioned the resemblance. Welcome to the club.
The brilliance of men in an era where technology was none existent, customs, culture and sharing of research among intellects around the world was not an option.
Racist and sexist MEN, yes highly likely given their "inbred brilliance" (= lack of outside CRITICISM and pursuing a closed type select agenda (= Greek males favoured in Greek education and cultural authority ; the Environment
of closed technical and socially selective knowledge.. no wonder what was left stymied acritical peoples everywhere since)..
Why are you mad?
I love this video, thank you for posting.
15:01 Thales of Miletus (german: Thales von Milet)
16:00 Geometry as a memory of ideal World -
eternal World of Ideas - prototypes of the Real World
17:20 out of their (the Ideas) shadow
17:40 "Physicists" - Thales, Anaximander (his Prime Mover of Life),
19:12 Plato tried to produce a more accessible version of the eternal G.
19:20 ideal reality is perfect, because unchangeable=immutable, the objects all around are inferior, because they change all the time
20:00 the divine mind that moves the heaven
21:16 We come from the stars (Timaeus) and go to "the celestial city"
22:05 ivory tower
22:25 Roman fresco: Aristotle and his school + Human body?
23:50 Paidea
God damn are you a philosopher, knowing all of this, love it
You do not know your history it is so old, going back... Egyptian priest to .... Timaios by plato
Anyone with a perm like the Plato in that bust who can get away with telling people they need to use their brains must of had some serious charisma.
Thank you for much for posting this. It was great!
Excellent lecture! You enlightened my mind in so many things about ancient Greek history and philosophy. Thanks
I have ALWAYS loved this guys lectures.
This was really good. Thank you for this 💎
Loved the Documentary, also love the Art and colours, and Thanks to the above illustration I now know how to do Greek Key Boarder's. Merci
I love the argument of Socrates about the credibility of God and most importantly, I appreciate his timely intervention on the importance of reason. If we apply this today I am sure the brainwashing we suffer from our societies might as well be dealt with. Thanks for this video and I need many more on the different teachings of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle.
The reason why Philosophy was held in such esteem IMO is that it provided them with a problem solving toolkit for tackling their day to day issues. Edward De Bono makes much use of these tools in his creative thinking books. Even today Project Management skills are held in high regards and utilise the very same processes.
Thank you. Loved it beyond measure. So wonderful.
I wish this wasn't broken apart. I love this video.
Very lucid and well-knit presentation.
Thank you Sir.
I'm enjoying to this lectures😊
Short and intense. Thank you very much. This is so great.
Beautiful ❤️❣️ video.
Must be screened in every school on earth
Thank you for sharing. One cannot get enough philosophy from our ancestors. Sadly most modern leaders apply poor applications that aren’t sustainable.
Now we just need a love button on youtube...
i agree with you bro
Solomon Chriqui so they think 💭 lol
Bældæg Tijuana.
You are a complete moron.
Hahahah surely.
Aristotle and Socrates two of the greatest men ever
2 of many, the contribution of philosophers from Asia South Asia cannot be mentioned enough either.
Pedro, you may want to look at the painting 'The School of Athens' in the Vatican, used by the Church to discredit reason, where Aristotle ( Plato's student) is pointing downward to the Earth and Plato (Socrates student) is pointing upwards to the Heavens !
No shit, Sherlock...
"Platon !" ….(Plato)…..the final Third Portion of Western Philosophy! simply Heavenly Genius! My Bloodline Speaks!
@@nicoangel690 Genetically, modern Greeks are Slavic and bear no genetic descent from those whom we call Greek ancients.
1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God. As the Scriptures say, “He traps the wise in the snare of their own cleverness.”
Great stuff, really enjoyed this.
I'm still learning something new from the minds of 5th century sophists
Life is an Illusion... Enjoy your spiritual journey, my beYOUtiful fellow travelers!
That's really cool. "Row, row, row your boat / Gently down the stream. / Merrily, merrily, , merrily, merrily / Life is but a dream. 😎
Don't go off on a psychic trip though good friend - that's important. Plato says Life is an Illusion for practical - not spiritual - reasons. It is a matter of fact; he says: that we accept much common opinion without testing its validity, meaning that baloney gets through to be taken for reality with the consequence that what we take for reality is false making our World unreal. To live in the real world requires elimination of baloney - that's all. He also points out that everything in the world is imperfect compared to the forms we use to educate ourselves about what our senses tell us. Popularisation of the false idea that he is some kind of mystic is how the powerful put us off the scent - just another shadow on the cave wall - of what he was really getting at. To reach for “The Good” - Plato’s conclusion as to our human meaning and purpose entails identification of the oppressors - being the ones who cast the shadows on the cave wall - and revealing them for what they really are. It is summarised in The Wizard of Oz when Toto pulls the curtain aside to cause a revolution by revelation not violence.
This is how you communicate ideas to an audience. Surprising how many speakers rush their words......
I know Thrasymachus; he works at my uncle Aristotle’s souvlaki joint (whenever he decides to come in). That guy’s a big grouch: he’s always picking on the other waiters and the kitchen staff, and he shouts at the customers. Uncle Ari and his business partner Pericles have been firing and re-hiring ‘Mac’ a couple of times a week for the past twenty-five years - the customers call it ‘the Peloponnesian Wars’...
Just ran into this video…I was a History major at UCLA while Prof Weber was there, so this brings back many fine memories.
Oh how I LOVE Socrates! Ever since I read my first book him when I was 14..
I wish this lecture was 3 hours long, I'd listen happily!! But thanks for these glorious 24 minutes anyhow!
Great documentary!
Very nice documentary
I'm 14. I have no business watching this and yet I'm here.
Plato was correct about quota the eternal world of ideas...he also said that if there was not beauty in the body there most be beauty in the soul...
He said it was no good to sit & stare at the ceiling
Who is this guy? He is amazing, I need more documentaries by him.
The cradle of Western civilization
Right on. Thanks for sharing.
Hi dear, lovely video. Could you please let me know the Aristotle statue location in Athens, I am planning to go in November, found on internet Socrotes and Plato statues location at Academy of Athens. Please help if anyone knows. Regards
I've been thinking this all my life. Its good to know some ancient philosopher also thought in that direction.
L-GUN , some won't cut it. Lemme tell you why:
#23:19, God brings them out of Egypt as He has strength like a wild ox. In Joel'3 .5 already are gone, because you have taken it away and carried beyond. Also the people of Judah and the people of Jerusalem, you have sold to the Greeks, and no one realize that 2:21 days of Hosea has become a proverb of 31:10, that no one can buy or sell except One who has the 3nity of Mark the name and the # of his name. Because wisdom is translated BG: malko da imash za da Vi idva na vreme as a command.
There's nothing new under the sun.
What a wonderful lecture, thank you 🙏 kindly
Am I the only one finding this documentary funny yet interesting at the same time?
For anyone who’s interested in the rest of these lectures, this is part of the course “The Western Tradition” produced by WGBH for the Annenberg Foundation. Other episodes can be easily found online.
Plato spoke of singularities,perfect form of energy spheres of energy and so many thinks that today physics test.
For Plato energy means nothing, forms do.
@@tham4378 yes but when he describes forms for example pyramid or πυραμις in Greek which means fire he describe it through a perfect triangle and fire was of the first forces of the creator,those are in Τιμαιος he even said about οπή which means hole and about oscillations.
@@ΜιχΛαζ the image you display on your profile explains everything regarding sense/perception and this encompasses the whole philosophy, not only of Plato. But to enter into the dialogue with him O Aristos kai Telios mentions that in the case of plane figures is the definition of their form. As without geometry none can enter the school of Athens. So when you say a sphere(drop of water) it is the same as saying circle, when you say a cube it is the same as a square. So all forms originate from the sphere, as it is the most perfect of them all. Now, a point without magnitude but with rythm, occupying no space(as perception does) but is only volume(sensation, feeling, unchanging, common to all beings, constants).O Pythagoras used to explain Mathematics into four branches, arithmetics, music, astronomy and the spherics. The square when divided by the side, as modern science measures, the division arrives at the infinitely small unit, without an objective, no center just according to necessity. On the other hand if divided by the diagonal as commanded by the diameter you can find to find the center or Atomo( the undivisible), where man is the model of the world as depicted geometrically by superimposing two images, one upon the other on the Vitruvius Man of Leonardo Da Vinci. So the challenge of squaring the circle is dogma(meaning one method) or kanonas epi nous, how to find the atom has eternally been solved by the great Philosophers and it is something that can never be achieved by the physicians nowdays. Atomo being the point with rythm can be measured by word through cuneiform script, it’s properties are dual as a raport between the diagonal and the side of the square as depicted in Thales theorem. All raports represent elements precisely measured geometrically by a2=b2+c2 and physically e=mc2.
This guy reminds me of Harvey korman- I keep expecting Tim Conway to shuffle up to him lol...
I JUST posted the same thing!
The Greeks Thales, Hippocrates, Pythagoras, Socrates,and Plato all traveled to
(Africa), they studied at the temple-universities Waset and Ipet Isut te. Each stayed 20 years or more to complete their training.
Socrates was able to Think
this is to be striven for always
know the Truth
& the truth will set you free
Finding the truth doesn't just set you free it sets everyone free - except those who are happier with the comfort blanket of what they've been told to think - most people alas!
Know thy self.
What is this mans name? I really like how he presents his ideas. Very articulate yet concise and simple.
what a lecture. where can i get other lectures of this man
it is actually a famous series
Philosophy for ever. A very British lecture. Most interesting.
Romanian American.
Does anyone know the name of this tv series? It is an old program that aired back in the 80's (I think) on public television.
THE WESTERN TRADITION. SEE THE ENTIRE SERIES AT - www.learner.org/resources/series58.html#
Great pronounciation. My English is far from perfect, but I've heard every word.
Excellent. Thank you.
Curious, does anyone have info Speaker's profession?
I see his name (Eugene Weber), but not any detail on his professional credits.
Great video
Salam and Greetings. It was an interesting and academic lecture about philosophy, as well as, there are some criticisms about Aristotle, Socrates and Plato's philosophy. Design and structure of modern democracy also have come from political ideas of Aristotle and Socrates' philosophy. When you listen and to read their books about political philosophy, they started their journey from point A and ended to point A, but not point B. Geometrically their philosophy and political ideas were designed like a circle 🔵 shape. That's why they had many gods, but not One True God. The modern democracy is also inspired by Aristotle and Socrates' philosophy. Their philosophy about Wisdom is academic but in some places their wisdom was based on materials.
Socrates, the unofficial, non-deified demi-god of Philosophy who would've questioned his own Self.
No sir. Apologies for the down-vote, but the whole point is that Socrates is completely human, he is just not; and never could be: the psychological colony of another. He lives in reality because he does not accept anything as true unless he can authenticate it through reasoned examination - the dielectic - whereas everyone else, or nearly everyone else, accepts commonly held belief as being true precisely because they tell each other it is. The Socrateses who know we are believing lies try to tell us, but we resent them for making waves, for stopping the show, for going against the grain, for being deliberately disruptive and all these things in the mind of the many kill off Socrates's revelations and we continue to be brainwashed and determined to say so - this is why Plato says "The unexamined life is not worth living." We are psychological creatures of another in that case, which is unnatural, whilst dead Socrates - who we psychologically worthless others killed - was possessed of himself, thus fulfilling himself for our benefit which is the thing that is the most natural and good goal of all.
@@alanpeterrogers5392 Youve written so much, yet said nothing.
Nothing but deepities.
@@cadkls it is informative, we should remember some points
@@cadkls "deepities", a wonderful word. I'm going to use it whenever and wherever I can. lol For real.
@@lmwaters9617 I'd love to take credit but it's not a word I came up with. But I like it too, its basically just phrases that sound deep but have no thought put into them.
Hey look, it's Hedley Lamarr, ( blazing saddles) used to watch, Eugene Weber, on PBS, ( years ago) simply becasue he looked like ,Harvey Korman... Glad i did.
Thanks for sharing. I really did enjoy that. More than I expected. He cleared up a few things I had been wondering about concerning the ancient Greeks and also showed where the Genesis for some central Christian ideas come from such as the heavenly perfect city.
The celestial realm is not to be confused with Religion - some kind of heaven - it is a postulation on why it might be that perfect forms - such as the triangle - appear in the mind alone and not in the sensory world. He thinks the same about the complex forms - such as justice - and that by understanding and approximating the form of it in the sensory world we get pursuit of the good. Because the body and this fully equipped mind in which perfected forms appear come together from these seemingly different realms at birth he wonders if they separate at death, and due to the unchangingness of the forms that there is no decaying of them so the mind could be thought of as continuing to exist. Should his speculation be true the psyche would abide somewhere - maybe not a material somewhere - so lets call it the celestial city, but he doesn't claim this as truth, just an image. There is no "Heaven" about it because there is no epistemology that helps establish the existence of heaven, the idea of which is no more than the doxa in Platonic parlance - opnion not truth.
My personal favourite was Diogenes the stoic and famously unsophist. ❤
Outstanding lecture❤ thank you..🙏🙏🙏🙏
*Eugen Joseph Weber (1925 - 2007) was a great U.C.L.A. professor: ¡3:23 am Pacific Daylight Savings Time on Wednesday, 3 November 2021 Common Era or CE formerly known as Ano Domini or AD!*
I love his sharing earnest. I feel I would need to argue and debate his assumptions, but would love and relish the sincerity of his misunderstandings.
Great talk!
heyy babes I love aristotle where in the video is the infromation
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Thank you. This video strengthened my faith in God.
Great narrator
Misleading title. There was very, very little Aristotle. In fact, he was mentioned only, nothing more. But the presentation of Platonic ideas was good. I'd be interested in finding the rest of this (whole, without the choppy cutting-down for Generation Dim-wit).
1:20 did he mean the 6th century BC? cause the 5th century BC ended in 401 BC and that was the year before socrates died, obviously after the sophists...
what is the full documentary?
What is the name of this documentary? Who is the man presenting ??
I want to watch this on VHS
Interesting how 'Truth' is no less evasive now than it has eternally been.
Unless, of course, if we pick up the scriptures that have a claim of being sent by the creator HIMSELF.
What is the name of the original documentary? Thanks for sharing the clips
♌🐯☀️💛🫱IM SO GRATEFUL THANKFUL FOR YOUR WISE WISDOM TEACHING MERCI 🙏
when was this filmed?
Sound going a bit wonky halfway
What got the ban ?
Does anybody know what this lecture series is? I'm sure I saw it on TV ages ago and really want to try and get a copy. It's a long series on the history of western civilisation I'm pretty sure. Anyone know the title? Lecturer?
It's ok, I worked it out, "The Western Tradition" by Eugene Weber (if you wanted to know). Aired on PBS 1989 apparently. th-cam.com/video/kAxqva6Ofj4/w-d-xo.html
What a wonderful and insightful lecture. I just wish it had not that distraction of mindless cacophony in the background, pushing itself too far into the foreground at times.
great one
I love philosophy , so i appreciate the father of philosophy!!!
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That would be Pythagoras.
The father had a teacher
Anyone know who the presenter in this documentary is?
Socrates hated Sophists because they accepted money in exchange for wisdom. Sophists were out for themselves. How can this guy just glaze over that>
He touched it, you were blessed to be able to realize that. Dig deeper. I hand you thy divine encrypted shovel!!!
This is all Greek to me
Because he is from the same tribe as the sophists perhaps?
Some ministers don't like to mention the fact that Jesus didn't like to accept money.
so whats School today. we all pay to go to college.. so colleges are pagen. exchange money for wisdom
What is the name of the lecturer?