Plato's Symposium: The Dialectic of Reason, Love, and Wisdom

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  • @ok-kk3ic
    @ok-kk3ic ปีที่แล้ว +380

    KEEP. THEM. COMING.

  • @user-pm3ic4sm7l
    @user-pm3ic4sm7l 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    Rest In Peace Dr. Thank you for your helpful lectures.

    • @petersantospago1966
      @petersantospago1966 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I just discovered him a couple weeks ago👍👍 he's great .. The way he breaks things down into simple terms and ideas that I can understand.... Boy I wish I'd have found him years ago... The teaching and philosophical world is one great mind less!

    • @ryanskynet6423
      @ryanskynet6423 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I didn’t even know he was sick??

    • @petersantospago1966
      @petersantospago1966 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ryanskynet6423 yeah... Sad.... He was a natural born teacher. Well we still have his great lectures.

    • @Mai-Gninwod
      @Mai-Gninwod 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ryanskynet6423Aristophanes... this guy sounds like a real jerk!

  • @christopherl4806
    @christopherl4806 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    I just found out that Dr Sugrue died yesterday. I'm very sad; it's as if I lost a friend.
    I only discovered him about six or seven months ago. And it's only been a week or so since I found his recently-produced videos.
    I had so much more to learn from him.
    It would have been phenomenal to have sat down and had a talk with him (though my knowledge of history and philosophy are vastly inferior to his).

  • @amanni7636
    @amanni7636 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    "Love is the yearning for eternity;
    It is the longing for immortality."
    The line.

  • @historicusjoe121
    @historicusjoe121 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Wow! "...That's why you can still love someone who isn't around anymore. You are in love with their soul.." Sugrue, YOU SINK ME!

  • @ChillsWithSloths
    @ChillsWithSloths ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Man getting these uploads is really like the youtube version of finding out your Saturday morning cartoons are all new as a kid. It's gonna be lamentable when these run out.

    • @historicusjoe121
      @historicusjoe121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I LOVE that analogy! Well done, sir!!!

    • @dna6496
      @dna6496 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sugrue still lives and loves
      he is going on forever lecturing to the demos

  • @jasonavant7470
    @jasonavant7470 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Such a wonderful quote: "We've made divinities of our vices but we've also created art to justify them."

  • @tinfoilhatscholar
    @tinfoilhatscholar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Michael Sugrue: one of the greatest orator's of our time. A man who changed people's lives with his passion for philosophy and his dedication to education. 1957-2014, the lifetime of a remarkable man.

  • @itsawonderfullife4802
    @itsawonderfullife4802 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    One of his best lectures ever, IMHO. Along with the famous and passionate one on Marcus Aurelius, of course.

    • @Gabingus69
      @Gabingus69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nietzsche ones go off for me

  • @username1235400
    @username1235400 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Did the 5 min chat with Dr. Sugrue yesterday. Highly recommend it. Show your appreciation for this awesome professor. TY Dr. Sugrue for the great content.

    • @BadGameanhilator
      @BadGameanhilator ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What did you ask him and what was his answer? favourite quote?

    • @historicusjoe121
      @historicusjoe121 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      How does one acquire the five minutes with Dr Sugrue?

    • @username1235400
      @username1235400 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@BadGameanhilator I asked him about what advice he had for me as a father raising 2 kids. Asked him about his favorite commentary on Plato book. Also asked him about a few other things. But we only had 5 minutes (although he was kind enough to go over even though I can tell he had more calls waiting). It was a treat to get to speak with him and show my appreciation anyway I can for all that he has made available for us.

    • @BadGameanhilator
      @BadGameanhilator ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@username1235400 Oh that is kind of him. What advice did he have for raising 2 kids? What was his favorite commentary on Plato book? Also can you remember what else you asked?

    • @donaldtilley7562
      @donaldtilley7562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@historicusjoe121 How do we arrange the 5 minute chat with Professor Sugrue?

  • @metamurph6784
    @metamurph6784 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "Anytime you fall in love, you'll notice nobody else sees why your lover is as beautiful as you think they are. The reason why is they are looking at the body and you are looking at their soul."
    Beautifully put!

  • @TheMrdangles16
    @TheMrdangles16 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    People don’t understand the paradigm shift of the Information Age. I am a giraffe and I am learning from the wisest person in the world...how magnificent

    • @Dino_Medici
      @Dino_Medici ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s incredible. I got into philosophy in 2010. It was a living hell trying to learn the fundamentals before stuff like this started on TH-cam

  • @bathcat3759
    @bathcat3759 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I swear it feels like there’s an infinite amount of these lectures. And I’m reaping all the benefits

  • @radtrad1401
    @radtrad1401 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dr. Sugrue is one of the few people that I legitimately get sad when I remember is no longer with us.

  • @user-lz6dm5lk9y
    @user-lz6dm5lk9y หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bravo! What a wonderful exposition! We are all the poorer for Prof. Sugrue's passing. Such a scholar, such a great teacher. Too bad the academy is not filled with Prof. Sugrues.
    What a wonderful legacy to the world is this channel. I hope it remains for many, many, many years.

  • @thattimestampguy
    @thattimestampguy ปีที่แล้ว +104

    0:27 Profound, Poetic, Real, Virtuous.
    1:28 Great Art & Philosophy in 1 Work. HARD to do, only Geniuses could produce this.
    2:26 Symposium: A Philosophical Drunkeness.
    3:23 Athenien aristocrats get together at [Tragedy Prize Winning Author] Agathon's House
    7:08 Vice, The Anti-Virtue. Aristophanes, The Anti-Socrates.
    8:19 Aristophanes uses comedy to mock Socrates.
    9:36 Irony - The Comedian is The Punchline, not the Punch
    11:22 Speeches leading to Socrates answer
    11:59 Alcebiedes
    13:32 The Dialects form a Ring of connection and comprehension.
    15:40 Overindulgence is bad for the human body.
    17:57 Love explains the Marrow
    18:27 Speech 1: Love inspires man to be Virtuous,
    20:08 Speech 2: Love is a God, Love helps us reconcile emotion, unifying harmony in the Soul. Connected with Freedom, Autonomy, Virtue.
    22:03 Speech 3: Unity of Bodies
    23:47 Speech 4: Love is the Origin of Ought
    32:18 Speech 5: Love is The Source of Virtue
    33:33 Speech 6: Love is not a God, Love is a Spirit which connects. 34:41 Union of Souls in an attempt to yearn for Eternity
    37:57 The Ladder of Beauty
    • If the marriage lasts into old bodies, Love cared more than for Bodily Beauty. Fall in Love with the Soul, which is Eternal, not the body, which perished in a very short 100 years.
    39:48 The Path to Knowledge and Virtue is paved with Love
    40:24 Speech 7
    41:15 DRINK TILL WERE DRUNK
    42:07 Be my lover Socrates
    True attractiveness is found in the Soul
    43:22 Can’t argue with that.
    ATTACK SYRACUSE
    …. F
    44:51 Drunk Rowdy Noise.You can’t talk reason to these people.
    46:20 Art & Literature
    Tragic Poet writes Comedy
    Comic Poet writes Tragedy
    47:35 Organize one’s soul. Upgrade from bronze to Soul Silver & Gold

    • @mjolninja9358
      @mjolninja9358 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Omg thanks

    • @Dino_Medici
      @Dino_Medici 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ur a legend tysm

  • @jphanson
    @jphanson ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The music at the beginning of these lectures always puts me in the mood to learn.

    • @historicusjoe121
      @historicusjoe121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right! It's the perfect intro. Chamber music, like Mozart.

    • @whitecrow20XX
      @whitecrow20XX ปีที่แล้ว +2

      brandenburg concerto no. 2 in f major, bwv 1047- i.

    • @jphanson
      @jphanson ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Raditya Rasyid Thank you!

  • @shakespearaamina9117
    @shakespearaamina9117 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Rest in Peace 🕊️

  • @haimbenavraham1502
    @haimbenavraham1502 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    A rare gem of a teacher.

  • @samosmond2375
    @samosmond2375 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    RIP Doc

  • @skyfathersound
    @skyfathersound ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sugrue on the Symposium?! The gods have blessed us again!

  • @adamdulloo3840
    @adamdulloo3840 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Rest in Peace Michael. I loved all your talks and lectures.

  • @ericivy9979
    @ericivy9979 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bright lights, impersonal, no podium to hide behind, and your ideas, your conversation, your logos, your willingness to engage in/with(?) the logos shines forth. I dig it.

  • @cheri238
    @cheri238 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Dr. Sugre, love this one. I listened several times. I love all your philosophy lectures. I hope you are feeling well. Thank you sir. ❤️

  • @BogdanLiviu7
    @BogdanLiviu7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Michael Sugrue is that teacher we all wished to have when we were in school. Such a joy! After each course I feel to read the author he speaks of in Complete Works. This is a divine gift. Thank you so much for these lectures!!!

    • @Dino_Medici
      @Dino_Medici ปีที่แล้ว

      I hear you brother. I only had one professor on his level in 8 years of college. If I had 2 or 3 I would be a very different man, for the better lmao

  • @RNCM_Philosophy
    @RNCM_Philosophy ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Looking forward to this one! Best regards from us at the RNCM 😊

  • @lukepipa2570
    @lukepipa2570 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ahhh. The symposium and Sugrue. An match made in Heaven

  • @antoniomachado1808
    @antoniomachado1808 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Sugrue's lectures made me re read pretty much all the platonic dialogues. Many thanks for these amazing lectures and insights

    • @Blunttalker
      @Blunttalker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you feel smarter having read them? How has it changed you?

    • @antoniomachado1808
      @antoniomachado1808 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Blunttalker am god now

  • @MohorMom
    @MohorMom ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow, all afternoon I was listening to the Republic-I and all Plato's Republic lectures again and suddenly this appeared in my TH-cam feed. Just when I wondered why I didn't see this video ever before, I noticed the date! A BIG THANKS TO YOU FOR UPLOADING THESE GEMS

  • @eldastan
    @eldastan ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Such an inspiring teacher.

    • @Dino_Medici
      @Dino_Medici ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Incredibly. No illustrious intellectual confusing jargon, he’s truly a master of his craft

  • @historicusjoe121
    @historicusjoe121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To quote an old radio phrase; "And the hits just keep on comin'!" Thank you Dr. Sugrue.

  • @bbiii.
    @bbiii. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you Dr. Sugrue

  • @anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858
    @anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    _Pretty down to earth presentation of Platonism. Not perfect, but nothing in the world is._
    _the authentic teacher of platonism, of course, helps awaken what is a desire in the listener to resolve the questions that arise in their mind; God, the paradox!_

  • @PhilosoFeed
    @PhilosoFeed ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ooooo one of my favourite Socrates dialogues of all time. This helped me understand a lot about how the Greeks viewed their gods.

  • @neo1559
    @neo1559 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes!!! What a gift to wake up to!!!!

  • @landonboone7332
    @landonboone7332 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dr Sugrue, thank you so much for all these lectures and all your time and talent given to this field. I have learned immensely from you and hope you know how much you are appreciated. God bless.

  • @timothypulliam2177
    @timothypulliam2177 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Amazing speaker. Love these lectures. Thank you for sharing

  • @phlovejoy
    @phlovejoy ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you, Professor.

  • @cesardaia4912
    @cesardaia4912 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr. Sugrue, you are the "Sun Speaker". Thank you!

  • @BraMike-uh9lf
    @BraMike-uh9lf หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    May the Legend Rest In Power!

  • @Rongoulet
    @Rongoulet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr. Sugrue was a great, great teacher. This is a brilliant lecture. He will be missed.

  • @ifgwelf
    @ifgwelf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these lectures. They don't even feel like lectures.

  • @OldMovieRob
    @OldMovieRob ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dr. Sugrue's storytelling is fantastic.

  • @leahturner6993
    @leahturner6993 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr Sugrue you are so incredibly inspiring. if you are listening from your new life in spirit, thank you from my heart, my soul.

  • @michaelgunther6039
    @michaelgunther6039 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I get so excited and happy when a new video comes back to light!!!

  • @busterfriendly6305
    @busterfriendly6305 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First love - what a change it makes in a lad! What a magnificent secret it is that he carries about with him! The tender passion gushes instinctively out of a man’s heart. He loves as a bird sings or a rose blooms, from nature.
    - Stanley Kubrick, Barry Lyndon

  • @havefunbesafe
    @havefunbesafe ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Contrast the element of storytelling that Michael does compared to a dry academic format. I actually retain this information because it’s interesting!

  • @philippabarr4602
    @philippabarr4602 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    New Sugrue just dropped. Love these lectures - they are an inspiration for my own teaching. The fan based community is amazing too. Thank you so much!

  • @basilvasiliu
    @basilvasiliu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This lecture just blew me away, driving to the essence of Socrates' infinite wisdom, amazingly articulated by the professor.

  • @wxwaxone
    @wxwaxone 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good lecture about my favorite work of literature. Prof. S’s take on Aristophanes as playing the villain of the piece is fascinating.

  • @cdb3847
    @cdb3847 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a beautiful lecture. This has tremendous value.

  • @tobetrayafriend
    @tobetrayafriend ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Read the Symposium recently, looking forward to the good professor's view on the work. Thanks Michael

  • @jl8217
    @jl8217 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So many insights and such infectious enthusiasm. Thanks so much!

  • @bicrehan
    @bicrehan ปีที่แล้ว

    Your lectures are gifts. Thank you so much, Professor Sugrue.

  • @NorrisSaiyan
    @NorrisSaiyan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this lecture, one of Sugrue's best!

  • @freethinker79
    @freethinker79 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolute gold from beginning to end! Thank you for sharing your incredible knowledge with the world.

  • @HCadrenaline
    @HCadrenaline ปีที่แล้ว

    i was waiting for this one for a long time, so glad I could hear it again. Merry Christmas

  • @cameroneiting8746
    @cameroneiting8746 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has gotta be the best one yet. You can really see the Platonist in him in this one.

  • @thisffinguy
    @thisffinguy ปีที่แล้ว

    You have to talk about this in your -unplugged talks - Dude - this is Gold right here.

  • @erwindouwes7043
    @erwindouwes7043 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is so wonderful, thank you so much for your contribution to society.

  • @yasojithgamage143
    @yasojithgamage143 ปีที่แล้ว

    We are deeply Gratitude and Thankful for your lectures.

  • @ethansadberry6069
    @ethansadberry6069 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was the first work of Plato’s I was introduced to back in college and when I say it changed my life I mean it

  • @rogerparada4995
    @rogerparada4995 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good quote at 35:30
    “Love is the yearning for eternity”

  • @rockycomet4587
    @rockycomet4587 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My ears got through this like champs!

  • @DBSpeakers
    @DBSpeakers ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for another wonderful lecture.

  • @Invadix-fs4zr
    @Invadix-fs4zr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you ad infinitum for uploading your lectures. I saw your lecture on Marcus Aurelius and fell in love. Thanks for adding more!

  • @tinfoilhatscholar
    @tinfoilhatscholar ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent. Just excellent. Thank you for enlightening us professor!

  • @khondokerishrak3561
    @khondokerishrak3561 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another fantastic lecture. Michael Sugrue is brilliant. God bless him.

  • @IuliaDrabikmcdrjuly
    @IuliaDrabikmcdrjuly ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great content, always a pleasure to listen to him

  • @walkerzupp8393
    @walkerzupp8393 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm due to teach a seminar on writing about love; this will be an excellent resource. God bless.

  • @caselbravo
    @caselbravo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank You 🕊️☮️

  • @kushluk777
    @kushluk777 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I read this several months ago, as well as reading The Clouds, The Republic, Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics, etc., and I could not have a more divergent interpretation. To me it feels as if this work represents the polyphony of love and art, each one brings with them some aspect of love that cannot be suppressed or remade, and Plato's attempt to impress one meaning on it is in a way upstaged by Alcibiades cry of raw emotion, connexion, physicality, belonging, need, and devotion. Neither he, nor Aristophanes, who discusses the beautiful doctrine of the other half, can be conclusively defeated. Their love, is also love, too - they are reflections of the complex and beautiful crystal of human harmony.
    EDIT: Unfortunately, it seems like Dr. Michael Sugrue recently passed away, may he rest in peace. I mean no disrespect in my comment, merely noting I have a very different interpretation than he seems to have.

  • @RNCM_Philosophy
    @RNCM_Philosophy ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Off topic question for Dr Sugrue, what was it like to study with Mircea Eliade at the University of Chicago? What was the most important thing you learned from him?

    • @BogdanLiviu7
      @BogdanLiviu7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      woah, I didn't know that! I'm from Romania and I love Eliade and Cioran. It would be so awesome so hear Michael Sugrue talk about Eliade in a Q&a. One of my favourite teachers was studying with one of my favourite authors! Thank you for your question, Chris!

    • @RNCM_Philosophy
      @RNCM_Philosophy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BogdanLiviu7 Pretty sure he mentioned it in a podcast seminar, not sure which one

    • @BogdanLiviu7
      @BogdanLiviu7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RNCM_Philosophy if you remember please let me know (I ll rewatch them all 😁)

  • @arghyachakraborty
    @arghyachakraborty ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally, Symposium! ❤️

  • @antkcuck
    @antkcuck ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for uploading this

  • @rushikeshhiray03
    @rushikeshhiray03 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And now my day is better.

  • @mmiv37
    @mmiv37 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    106K subscribers! Awesome. I hope it keeps growing.

  • @888leilani
    @888leilani 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just stumbled on this after reading the text my God what a wonderful lecture

  • @coolguydavid7138
    @coolguydavid7138 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for letting me see this

  • @charlesedwardandrewlincoln8181
    @charlesedwardandrewlincoln8181 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these so much!

  • @ianmcgee9850
    @ianmcgee9850 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love you so damn much. 😊 I’m serious. You are an amazing teacher

  • @Secular-Republic
    @Secular-Republic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please , put year of lecture too . Thank you for your hard work and shared knowledge 🗽🗽🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍

  • @n8utrera260
    @n8utrera260 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heck yeah bro 👏👏👏 i love these

  • @jojomathew3408
    @jojomathew3408 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you sir

  • @The.Nasty.
    @The.Nasty. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you 🙏🏼

  • @omarhassan7627
    @omarhassan7627 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Prof. Dr. Sugrue for all these interesting, mind blowing and fantastic lectures. I have discovered your lectures before s year, since then I have watched all of them, and recommended some of my best friends to watch. We agreed all of us, that you are one of the most amazing, intelligent and articulate Professors of the world.
    Here I have a very personal question to you . Can you tell us how could you read all these works of these pioneering Philosophers? What had motivated to you to learn and teach Philosophy?
    Please tell us about you and your biography... bcs i find it very interesting and inspiring ...

  • @mouadlahjiri1400
    @mouadlahjiri1400 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this

  • @Charmagh110
    @Charmagh110 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really good

  • @goudafeta2165
    @goudafeta2165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love is the longing for eternity.

  • @AmberSoleil1
    @AmberSoleil1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “The symposium isn’t really over and there’s still a seat at it for you”

  • @Dino_Medici
    @Dino_Medici ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVVVEEEEE SUGRUE

  • @jeremycole9754
    @jeremycole9754 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing

  • @NikephorosAer54
    @NikephorosAer54 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Teacher Michael, Great respect. Yet, forget about love, they talk about ΕΡΩΣ.(and the name is Αγάθων, not Άγαθων but never mind that) You inspire and move ! A Greek friend,
    Demetrios.

  • @johnaugsburger6192
    @johnaugsburger6192 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @Slabagool
    @Slabagool ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it

  • @anthenehbeze.
    @anthenehbeze. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The greates gem. Rest In peace dear.

  • @EbayUsedGoods
    @EbayUsedGoods ปีที่แล้ว

    17:35 "encomia" is the spelling that the subtitles gives. Sounds like a standard speech of praise. Gotta respect that perspective

  • @robn7777777
    @robn7777777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wonderful, makes me want to return to university

    • @nolanmcsheridan9959
      @nolanmcsheridan9959 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They don't make them like Dr. Sugrue anymore

  • @javadsiavashi7879
    @javadsiavashi7879 ปีที่แล้ว

    No words...

  • @jaspertogononjr3765
    @jaspertogononjr3765 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is QUALITY