Thank you im a uneducated construction worker but love history. Started with american than learned about the enlightenment. In europe and know greek and Roman. Listened go the republic a couple times this really helped me break it down. And the same problems plagued politics for thousands of years simply amazing. But i feel like our politicans in alot of ways were better educated decades ago.
blaze 2019 - You are certainly NOT “uneducated” (MBAs who have no interest in learning anything beyond what will benefit their corporate careers are uneducated) - and I agree with Damian Biondo: I, too, wish half my students had your intellectual curiosity and sense of wonder; I have to brush up on Kardashians trivia just to get them to take their doctoral comprehensive exams...
I could cry....I could just cry.... I am a senior now, not too distant from Prof. Sugrue's age upon his passing, and watching his lectures it is very clear to me that never once in my entire life did I have even ONE teacher as good as Prof. Sugrue. I really wish I could have been his student. Well, I guess I am his student now. R.I.P. dear Prof Sugrue.
@@rafedrafed8396He died approximately 8/9 months ago, he has a substack website, a quick search on Google will direct you there! Rest in Peace Dr. Sugrue
Nonsense; I would not trust a person if he did not have enemies. Having enemies indicates that you have a strong position on moral or political matters.
I thought it was interesting because it seemed to imply that your “enemy” is defined by yourself. The person may not have your best interests in mind, or may be actively working against you, but you have the ability to contextualize their actions in relation to yourself, and it doesn’t have to be adversarial. Easier said than done, though.
that is why i hate ultranacionalistic racist and comunes, bro we are human beings, all of us, even the dumbest of the dumb are highly evolved biological machines, we are in this together all of us.
May you RIP Dr. Sugrue. Your lectures have been a great consolation in my life and I wish more people would yearn to learn at the high level in which you taught.
Professor speaks so eloquently , he truly is the Plato of Story telling. Such rythm such harmony between words. Listening to this I could truly imagine myself there with Socrates.
I think you’d like Pierre grimes’s lectures on Plato. Type his name then type “Parmenides” right after. He has dozens if not hundreds of lectures here. What’s the difference? Pierre is a mystic and thinks Plato was on to something. So, he makes the best argument he can for him. Whereas, as good as he is, sugrue is an academic. I don’t know that he actually bought in to the transcendence of the GOOD-ONE. but I’m just guessing. Regardless, Pierre Grimes is pretty good.
I am a freelance translator and editor. Everytime I am working I listen to one of Professor Sugrue's lectures. These lectures are pure gold. I am truly grateful.
Thanks Dr. Sugrue for all this videos/speeches you left for us, they are so valuable, i could only dream of having a professor like you, Your videos help me, and so many others, teaching us how to be better individuals and by sharing the stories of great men from history that continues to inspire us, Rest in piece Dr. Sugrue.
We really live in an amazing time where anyone can access this kind of lecture. I finished book 1 and came here for a summary to make sure it sunk in. In the first 5 minutes I couldn't believe how much I missed. Thank you for this.
This shit rocks. I’m a woodworker in a furniture woodshop and all I do at work is listen your lectures. Thank you for sharing this information and complete quality lecturing to the unwashed masses like myself.
I have listened to many philosophical talks over many years already but have never listened to a lecture like this ever before in my life. I am ever so grateful to Dr Michael Sugrue. Listening to your speech, I guess, would be more interesting and making sense than, of course, listening to Socrates himself alive. In this lecture, you gave the cream of Socrates' knowledge to listeners like 'the swan that separates milk from water'. I can listen to lectures like this all day long without feeling bored. Thank you, Sir.
Rideshare and delivery driver here, grew up poor, but always been intellectually voracious. First of all I want to say that the people in this comment section ARE AMAZING🤩🤓. Secondly I want to say that these lectures are invigorating and helpful in grappling with the current social and political status quo. Just downloaded “The Republic” on my Kindle and cannot wait to dig into these dialogues. Thanks for this wonderful introduction/guide to its major concepts and to interpreting the text. I believe this will actually help me be better at spotting themes and values in literary and philosophical texts in the future. Thank you prof. Sugrue!!!😇
Here's the thing. Philosophy and other social sciences can be percieved by a beginner. For some bizarre reason it's considered like "high class", like something you need a lot of degrees to understand. Natural science ok, a beginner will only be able to get a "popular science lecture for non scientists". But social science? You can walk into a pholosophy course in an Ivy League university and be as good as the other students. You'll have a problem in a low grade level college if you try to understand what Calculus II is about of course. But philosophy? History? It can be done. If you have the time (and money?) try to get into a university for such a degree. I assure you, you'll be among the best of the class.
Breeze into a class on Wittgenstein's Tractatus at any of the Ivies with which you are so well acquainted and let me know how close to the top you breeze out.
"Socrates' conception of benefit is tied up with his conception of virtue. Since virtue is knowledge for Socrates, the benefit that you owe to those who like you and to those who don't like you... the benefit you owe to all men.... Is education. So the point of Socratic interaction, of Socratic dialogue is the improvement of the people he is speaking to..." Professor Sugrue, thank you for literally practicing what you preach. It is not lost on me that you are being Socratic by posting your lectures so that we can all learn to be better thinkers and better people. Much respect. 🙏
Once, philosophy, is in you heart, you don't need lecture notes. As eloquently demonstrated by this professor. If only all ' professors', were equally inclined.
The Mister Rogers of college professors. Warm, intelligent and engaging. I feel a strange sense of belonging when listening to your lectures. Thank you.
@@FarazAhmed-jc4cc just pay for the subscription! It’s like 10 dollars a month now and it’s all steamable. I used to buy the DVDs and CDs years ago, but now for 10 bucks I can watch any of the great courses on my device or TV. 👍🏼
We are all so fortunate to live in a time that we can receive this information with the click of a few buttons!!!! Thank you so much for your work Michael.
Wow. I’ve read the republic twice and studied it in higher education and just seven minutes in, you’ve hit me with something I’ve never heard before. Excellent.
Dr. Micheal, we are truly blessed to have such a man of integrity, and genius to learn from. From the depths of my soul; thank you! And i wish you well!
13:28 I literally was pondering over this for a few days and I am so much happier now that i have made space for thoughts other than those of women. I can actually study now ,talk to people and take care of my future!
Amazing lecture and extremely articulated and profound explanation. I have watched it three times and moire and never get tired of this lecture and all the other lectures uploaded by professor Surgrue.
My friends and I have begun reading The Republic together. Returning to these videos after having finally read Book 1 has provided invaluable insight. Thank you for the timeless wisdom.
Fell asleep listening to this last night. Not because it's boring but because it's so enjoyable to listen to his voice. So I'm watching again now this evening. One of the best lecturers I've ever had the measure of hearing. And I really like the other lecturer he has uploaded. They have kind of the same way of speaking, and I don't know if that intentional somehow, but he's enjoyable to listen to as well.
Rest in piece micheal sugrue This video taught me a principle of philosophy that i can apply very often The macro-micro connection Thanks to this video i found clues to creating a method of artistic viewpoint that would be more efficient for me to study philosophy and more or less everything I am very grateful for the presence of this video That at the time i thought would be complicated and excruciatingly difficult to incorporate academic philosophy But i was wrong and to this day i still use the micro-macro connection Rest in peace dr sugrue You'll helped countless people And believe me your legacy will go on even posthumously 🙏
Like the Republic, these lectures should be heard repeatedly ( and at 0,75x playback speed...). Excellent and inspiring to 'get' things that were formerly opaque. Thank you.
You killed this bro. Damn. If any of my lecturers possessed a fraction of your teaching ability (knowledge, charisma, performance, oration...), I would have become a career student.
This man is one of the best lecturers I can conceive of. I cannot thank you enough for making this content available and I will be watching every single video you’ve uploaded.
I've been watching these lectures like crazy for the last 2 weeks, this man is pure gold. Just picked up the Plato, Socrates, and the Dialogues course on The Great Courses, really appreciate you uploading these for free here and now I have 16 more amazing lectures to listen to while I draw. Thank you Dr. Sugrue
I have found that these lectures make excellent building blocks for furthering one’s journey through not the realm of Philosophy and the Social sciences. Thank you for your brilliant lectures professor.
1. Plato republich... balance knowleage and power 2. Good man who has virtue, have no enemies, no harm 3. Nature of justice, nature of virtue Grateful ❤
Watching your videos makes me think "I wish I could have been there in a room with these great man" again and again. Because I almost feel, like I am while listening. So thank you for uploading your lectures, Professor Sugrue!
@@alabhyadwivedi2768 Nah. The Vedas are Primarily Mythological texts. Hardly anything of Philosophical Value in them. The Upanishads are Ok, but even they are NOT as good as Greek Philosophy. Later Indian texts are like Greek Philosophy ...
When I re-read the republic, and right there in the beginning, it’s there; I realized that what Plato thought to be the ideal city-state, was a simple one, wherein everyone had just enough for their needs. And so worked hard enough and long enough to supply those needs, and no more. Meaning he described the Just city early on. But this was called a city only good enough for pigs. The whole bit on the 3 parts of the city, comes when you remove justice from it; to an extent removed. Where lies and force and misinformation are needed to “make it work”. Make what work? “A luxurious city” Then I realized that there are a lot of people who give me shit about my liking plato, because Plato does talk about some tyrannical tendencies. But now I see, that’s only “needed”, if I can say it’s needed, when Justice is removed. In other words, when the proper arrangements of the parts, and relations of each to each other are removed, and replaced with relations that are incommensurate and disproportionate or unsuited for the members of the whole.
Thank You Prof Sugrue.. Would love to meet u someday. Brilliant & phenomenal. There is no dearth of talent in India, however you are an exception. I wish every teacher had the same zeal and devotedness.
@@dr.michaelsugrue please tell Dr Sugrue about our appreciation of his depth and simlicity about all these philosophical material. Best wishes from Turkey
I binge read the Republic and all the Socratic dialogues over Covid and honestly it’s some of the best stuff ever put to paper. I briefly touched upon them in PHL101 25 years ago in college but didn’t pay much attention. Can’t wait to have the chance to read them again and digest them fully!!!
The good man has no enemies of his own making is a better statement. After all, there are men who are enemies of goodness and therefore the natural enemy of the good man. We do not always play an active role in creating enemies.
The mind is a garden, you gotta cultivate the good things Which is a long winded way of saying thanks, mike, and whoever is uploading, for replacing true crime in my earbuds at work
Warm greetings from Australia 🦘 Thank you Michael. You are amazing! Really enjoying the very accessible lectures. I've become a fan girl. Educating one's mind is absolutely liberating and thrilling.
I'm an English teacher in Christian School in the remotest region of India. As a result, it's tough for me to understand the fluency of westerners speaking English. But nevertheless, I listen every explanation on Philosophy.
I'm not a philosophy student but my perspective listening to this is there's nothing more just than the well being of all men. We have many ideas of fairness in law but generally if you're not working to provide security and wellness to man than you aren't doing justice. I've interpreted Socrates perspective to be that there's no better way to provide security to a nation than to educate them.
I loved this lecture. I wish they play this video in all schools. I made my high school nephews watch . They lost interest very fast . But I had alot of fun picking thier brains the socratic way lol they were pissed .I dont know alot about philosophy but I enjoy a good lecture.
Rest in Peace, Dr. Sugrue. You sparked my interest in Plato and made the experience much more enjoyable.
Thank you im a uneducated construction worker but love history. Started with american than learned about the enlightenment. In europe and know greek and Roman. Listened go the republic a couple times this really helped me break it down. And the same problems plagued politics for thousands of years simply amazing. But i feel like our politicans in alot of ways were better educated decades ago.
i'm a law professor. I wish half my students had your curiousity. Keep it up!
Professor D'Blond-O
blaze 2019 - You are certainly NOT “uneducated” (MBAs who have no interest in learning anything beyond what will benefit their corporate careers are uneducated) - and I agree with Damian Biondo: I, too, wish half my students had your intellectual curiosity and sense of wonder; I have to brush up on Kardashians trivia just to get them to take their doctoral comprehensive exams...
I'm in construction as well! Ditch-Digger Laborer!
Travis Cooper - Me, too! Archaeologist, excavator.
I could cry....I could just cry.... I am a senior now, not too distant from Prof. Sugrue's age upon his passing, and watching his lectures it is very clear to me that never once in my entire life did I have even ONE teacher as good as Prof. Sugrue. I really wish I could have been his student. Well, I guess I am his student now. R.I.P. dear Prof Sugrue.
متى ولد ومتى مات الفيلسوف sugrue
I agree with you 100%. Michael has been the best teacher, a gift. His dearh has been such a pain, such a loss.
I'm 38 sir! I feel the same 🎉
@@rafedrafed8396He died approximately 8/9 months ago, he has a substack website, a quick search on Google will direct you there! Rest in Peace Dr. Sugrue
❤❤😢
“The good man has no enemies, the good man is devoted to the idea if improving all human beings” wow, this hit deep
Nonsense; I would not trust a person if he did not have enemies. Having enemies indicates that you have a strong position on moral or political matters.
I thought it was interesting because it seemed to imply that your “enemy” is defined by yourself. The person may not have your best interests in mind, or may be actively working against you, but you have the ability to contextualize their actions in relation to yourself, and it doesn’t have to be adversarial.
Easier said than done, though.
@@michaellangan4450 this is a real philosophy moment here
Back in high school I remember a saying if u have haters your doing something right
that is why i hate ultranacionalistic racist and comunes, bro we are human beings, all of us, even the dumbest of the dumb are highly evolved biological machines, we are in this together all of us.
Rip professor, one of the most valuable educators that philosophy has ever had the honor of having at its service.
the amount of data in this mans mind and the way he transfers it into the minds of his listeners is next level
Yup. Why do you have Buddha as your DP ? Wouldn't it be better to have Socrates ?
@@DipayanPyne94 why not have Buddha and Socrates at the same time? DP in his ass. You did mean Double Penetration, right???
@@common_sense2022 Jesus. The f is wrong with you 🤦🏽♂️
@@DipayanPyne94 No, the Buddha is far better
@@madallas_mons Good joke. I used to believe that too. Then, I read Plato and he changed my life. He SAVED me.
May you RIP Dr. Sugrue. Your lectures have been a great consolation in my life and I wish more people would yearn to learn at the high level in which you taught.
He died!? Of what?
@@bakshev Yes, He died Jan 16, 2024 from prostate cancer.
@@bosteye
Yes, and I cried also.
🙏❤️
Professor speaks so eloquently , he truly is the Plato of Story telling. Such rythm such harmony between words. Listening to this I could truly imagine myself there with Socrates.
Two minutes in and I had the same thought. Like I'm sitting on some marble stairs.
That’s 2000% true mahn💯😂😂
You got it, Sahil.
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Socrates speech at his trial for impiety and corruption, is in Greek but that’s how he’d sound.
He talks way too fast. He doesn't give the listener a moment to process.
Thank you for uploading this... People pay top dollar for this kind of lecture
I think you’d like Pierre grimes’s lectures on Plato. Type his name then type “Parmenides” right after. He has dozens if not hundreds of lectures here.
What’s the difference? Pierre is a mystic and thinks Plato was on to something. So, he makes the best argument he can for him. Whereas, as good as he is, sugrue is an academic. I don’t know that he actually bought in to the transcendence of the GOOD-ONE. but I’m just guessing. Regardless, Pierre Grimes is pretty good.
_10 clicks for one penny_
If my professors were like this in college, I'd forever be a college student.
I'm selling bootleg copies in the alley for a third of the price.
@@tatsumakisempyukaku thank you for the tip on finding other lectures from this man. I really enjoy his lectures.
Thanks! When I’m not broke I’ll donate more. Loved it!
I am a freelance translator and editor. Everytime I am working I listen to one of Professor Sugrue's lectures. These lectures are pure gold. I am truly grateful.
same here, using his lectures as 'study music' while working on databases.
Thanks Dr. Sugrue for all this videos/speeches you left for us, they are so valuable, i could only dream of having a professor like you,
Your videos help me, and so many others, teaching us how to be better individuals and by sharing the stories of great men from history that continues to inspire us,
Rest in piece Dr. Sugrue.
"The benefit that you owe to all men is education."
The purpose of a life well lived.
Thank you professor Sugrue!
We really live in an amazing time where anyone can access this kind of lecture. I finished book 1 and came here for a summary to make sure it sunk in. In the first 5 minutes I couldn't believe how much I missed. Thank you for this.
We're living in wonderful time aren't we?
@@alonsofrancescutti4956 1. He said that already. 2. In some ways, yes; in some ways, no.
Never went to college but I bet this guy was the highlight of everyone's semester. And here I am.
He was one of my teachers at Columbia in the Fall of 1985.
Dad said, the days pass slowly but the years are gone all too soon.
This shit rocks. I’m a woodworker in a furniture woodshop and all I do at work is listen your lectures. Thank you for sharing this information and complete quality lecturing to the unwashed masses like myself.
Mate, what do you mean by unwashed ?
I have listened to many philosophical talks over many years already but have never listened to a lecture like this ever before in my life. I am ever so grateful to Dr Michael Sugrue. Listening to your speech, I guess, would be more interesting and making sense than, of course, listening to Socrates himself alive. In this lecture, you gave the cream of Socrates' knowledge to listeners like 'the swan that separates milk from water'. I can listen to lectures like this all day long without feeling bored. Thank you, Sir.
Rideshare and delivery driver here, grew up poor, but always been intellectually voracious. First of all I want to say that the people in this comment section ARE AMAZING🤩🤓. Secondly I want to say that these lectures are invigorating and helpful in grappling with the current social and political status quo. Just downloaded “The Republic” on my Kindle and cannot wait to dig into these dialogues. Thanks for this wonderful introduction/guide to its major concepts and to interpreting the text. I believe this will actually help me be better at spotting themes and values in literary and philosophical texts in the future. Thank you prof. Sugrue!!!😇
Here's the thing. Philosophy and other social sciences can be percieved by a beginner. For some bizarre reason it's considered like "high class", like something you need a lot of degrees to understand. Natural science ok, a beginner will only be able to get a "popular science lecture for non scientists". But social science? You can walk into a pholosophy course in an Ivy League university and be as good as the other students. You'll have a problem in a low grade level college if you try to understand what Calculus II is about of course. But philosophy? History? It can be done. If you have the time (and money?) try to get into a university for such a degree. I assure you, you'll be among the best of the class.
Breeze into a class on Wittgenstein's Tractatus at any of the Ivies with which you are so well acquainted and let me know how close to the top you breeze out.
"Socrates' conception of benefit is tied up with his conception of virtue. Since virtue is knowledge for Socrates, the benefit that you owe to those who like you and to those who don't like you... the benefit you owe to all men.... Is education. So the point of Socratic interaction, of Socratic dialogue is the improvement of the people he is speaking to..."
Professor Sugrue, thank you for literally practicing what you preach. It is not lost on me that you are being Socratic by posting your lectures so that we can all learn to be better thinkers and better people. Much respect. 🙏
I think it is FANTASTIC that there are so many people like me that want to keep learning. There is hope! Let's start a revolution 😊
Once, philosophy, is in you heart, you don't need lecture notes. As eloquently demonstrated by this professor. If only all ' professors', were equally inclined.
Your usage of punctuation gave me cancer.
The Mister Rogers of college professors. Warm, intelligent and engaging. I feel a strange sense of belonging when listening to your lectures. Thank you.
I have tons of “The Great Courses”, and I love them all, but Dr. Sugrue’s are my favorites.
Can you share them with us sir
@@FarazAhmed-jc4cc just pay for the subscription! It’s like 10 dollars a month now and it’s all steamable. I used to buy the DVDs and CDs years ago, but now for 10 bucks I can watch any of the great courses on my device or TV. 👍🏼
@@slashtrio lol
Share it mann
He talks way too fast. He doesn't give the listener a moment to process.
We are all so fortunate to live in a time that we can receive this information with the click of a few buttons!!!! Thank you so much for your work Michael.
Rest well good doctor. You’ll be sorely missed.
Wow. I’ve read the republic twice and studied it in higher education and just seven minutes in, you’ve hit me with something I’ve never heard before. Excellent.
Dr. Micheal, we are truly blessed to have such a man of integrity, and genius to learn from. From the depths of my soul; thank you! And i wish you well!
13:28 I literally was pondering over this for a few days and I am so much happier now that i have made space for thoughts other than those of women. I can actually study now ,talk to people and take care of my future!
Love listening to your lectures on my walks. Thank you for making them available here 🙏🏽
We are two.
@@blairhakamies4132 we are three
We are four
Amazing lecture and extremely articulated and profound explanation. I have watched it three times and moire and never get tired of this lecture and all the other lectures uploaded by professor Surgrue.
My friends and I have begun reading The Republic together. Returning to these videos after having finally read Book 1 has provided invaluable insight. Thank you for the timeless wisdom.
People need more Plato in their lives.
"the republic to a great extent is about the organization and direction of human desire" - found that to be quite profound
Fell asleep listening to this last night. Not because it's boring but because it's so enjoyable to listen to his voice. So I'm watching again now this evening. One of the best lecturers I've ever had the measure of hearing. And I really like the other lecturer he has uploaded. They have kind of the same way of speaking, and I don't know if that intentional somehow, but he's enjoyable to listen to as well.
Rest in piece micheal sugrue
This video taught me a principle of philosophy that i can apply very often
The macro-micro connection
Thanks to this video i found clues to creating a method of artistic viewpoint that would be more efficient for me to study philosophy and more or less everything
I am very grateful for the presence of this video
That at the time i thought would be complicated and excruciatingly difficult to incorporate academic philosophy
But i was wrong and to this day i still use the micro-macro connection
Rest in peace dr sugrue
You'll helped countless people
And believe me your legacy will go on even posthumously
🙏
Professor Sugrue is awesome -- I have listened to him for years.
Like the Republic, these lectures should be heard repeatedly ( and at 0,75x playback speed...). Excellent and inspiring to 'get' things that were formerly opaque. Thank you.
Great tip with the speed.
Having heard this lecture, I must definitely reread book one. This additional guidance has opened an entirely new perspective on Plato for me.
I thoroughly enjoyed the content and delivery of this talk, it smacked of genuine intellectual quality and depth. A real gem.
This is the best Mr. Bean disguise I’ve ever seen
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You killed this bro. Damn. If any of my lecturers possessed a fraction of your teaching ability (knowledge, charisma, performance, oration...), I would have become a career student.
This man is one of the best lecturers I can conceive of. I cannot thank you enough for making this content available and I will be watching every single video you’ve uploaded.
This guy is absolutely brilliant in presentation and knowledge!!!
Thank you Dr. Sugrue, these symposiums are extremely important for me. The gift that you are giving away for free is very generous.
One of the best teachers to grace the world!
I've been watching these lectures like crazy for the last 2 weeks, this man is pure gold. Just picked up the Plato, Socrates, and the Dialogues course on The Great Courses, really appreciate you uploading these for free here and now I have 16 more amazing lectures to listen to while I draw. Thank you Dr. Sugrue
Charley A thank you so much for Prof.Michaels lectures..I appreciate the time he put into preperation.Well done and well said.
Thank you for this, Dr Sugrue. Your work is truly a gift to humanity.
Your ability to explain these philosophical concepts is unmatched. Lessons that are so important to the modern world. Thank you for your gift.
This level of passion is rare and satisfying.
That's because Neoliberalism has wiped off passion from this world.
Thank you so much for making these available here on TH-cam Professor.
These are a blessing during these times.
I have found that these lectures make excellent building blocks for furthering one’s journey through not the realm of Philosophy and the Social sciences. Thank you for your brilliant lectures professor.
Absolutely spot on so beautifulfully delivered.
From India. ...
1. Plato republich... balance knowleage and power
2. Good man who has virtue, have no enemies, no harm
3. Nature of justice, nature of virtue
Grateful ❤
Watching your videos makes me think "I wish I could have been there in a room with these great man" again and again.
Because I almost feel, like I am while listening. So thank you for uploading your lectures, Professor Sugrue!
The whole lecture has came to an end...I have spent 47 minutes & it was like just a minute before! It was worth to hear from you professor!
If you read Greek Philosophy and the History of Science, Math and Philosophy, you will find out the solutions to most problems that humans face ...
@@alabhyadwivedi2768 Nah. The Vedas are Primarily Mythological texts. Hardly anything of Philosophical Value in them. The Upanishads are Ok, but even they are NOT as good as Greek Philosophy. Later Indian texts are like Greek Philosophy ...
Rest in peace Mr Sugrue, I am grateful i caught your last few live streams.
I'm so proud of you Michael ❤
Read the first section, and so glad ive found this video to help with a check if my understanding is right
I can not believe how much I missed in the first page. Completely eye opening.
When I re-read the republic, and right there in the beginning, it’s there; I realized that what Plato thought to be the ideal city-state, was a simple one, wherein everyone had just enough for their needs. And so worked hard enough and long enough to supply those needs, and no more. Meaning he described the Just city early on.
But this was called a city only good enough for pigs.
The whole bit on the 3 parts of the city, comes when you remove justice from it; to an extent removed. Where lies and force and misinformation are needed to “make it work”.
Make what work? “A luxurious city”
Then I realized that there are a lot of people who give me shit about my liking plato, because Plato does talk about some tyrannical tendencies. But now I see, that’s only “needed”, if I can say it’s needed, when Justice is removed. In other words, when the proper arrangements of the parts, and relations of each to each other are removed, and replaced with relations that are incommensurate and disproportionate or unsuited for the members of the whole.
Thank You Prof Sugrue.. Would love to meet u someday. Brilliant & phenomenal. There is no dearth of talent in India, however you are an exception. I wish every teacher had the same zeal and devotedness.
How exactly is expressing gratitude to someone who has passed on disrespectful?
@@musawenkositshabalala45 My Dad is sick but alive. I am his daughter.
@@dr.michaelsugrue I hope he gets better, and so glad you uploaded these! I wish I could meet him.
@@dr.michaelsugrue please tell Dr Sugrue about our appreciation of his depth and simlicity about all these philosophical material. Best wishes from Turkey
@@dr.michaelsugrue tell you dad he work is still doing great things for a new generation! Take care and happy holidays to you and your family
Dr. Sugrue is my new philosophy professor!! Grateful for his knowledge sharing.
Sublime lectures that are easily digestible. Great introductions to many great thinkers and books before attempting to plunge into them! Thank you!
You are so knowledgeable and easy to listen to with the ideas flowing. I wish you were near me at the coffee shop each morning.
Reading Plato's works is life changing!
What a remarkable scholar! It is a joy and honor to be subscribed to his channel! Thank you for such preeminent lectures!
Michael Sugrue is pure genius. There exists no subject more deep, nor more important than that of Western Culture!
I agree.
The east also has some equally great intellectual minds. Honestly most civilizations have cultivated some sense of philosophy.
Really?
These lectures are incredible. He doesn't even refer to notes. thank you for uploading.
thank you so much for posting your lectures, Michael, the way you teach has made learning about philosophy a pleasure
Dear Sir,
All thanks to your discourse!
it’s great now my appetite is finally stimulated and truely being satiated.
I binge read the Republic and all the Socratic dialogues over Covid and honestly it’s some of the best stuff ever put to paper. I briefly touched upon them in PHL101 25 years ago in college but didn’t pay much attention. Can’t wait to have the chance to read them again and digest them fully!!!
I just started college and my course is Philosophy and this helped me so much! Thank you!
This dude is honestly amazing at this.
What a treasure! Thank you so much, sir!
Goodness, this content is extremelyyyyy enriching, thank you
The good man has no enemies of his own making is a better statement. After all, there are men who are enemies of goodness and therefore the natural enemy of the good man. We do not always play an active role in creating enemies.
The mind is a garden, you gotta cultivate the good things
Which is a long winded way of saying thanks, mike, and whoever is uploading, for replacing true crime in my earbuds at work
this dude is a badass. wish I could have studied with him.
Thank you Michael.
Love from Canada
Warm greetings from Australia 🦘 Thank you Michael. You are amazing! Really enjoying the very accessible lectures. I've become a fan girl. Educating one's mind is absolutely liberating and thrilling.
Please keep posting these lectures. I always wanted to learn practical philosophy. These lectures teach me that.
Justice is not a construct. It’s a relationship with nature. Heal your relationship with the earth and healthy community will follow.
Dad said this is not even wrong.
So glad I found this channel !
This right here is what the Internet was meant to offer
Amazing! One of the best lectures I've ever seen.
I'm an English teacher in Christian School in the remotest region of India. As a result, it's tough for me to understand the fluency of westerners speaking English. But nevertheless, I listen every explanation on Philosophy.
Sugrue is the best freestyle rapper of the 20th century
Talented Camerman! Always keep the professor at the center of the frame. Thanks for uploading great lectures honestly!
This is one of the best lectures I have ever seen! Amazing.
I'm not a philosophy student but my perspective listening to this is there's nothing more just than the well being of all men. We have many ideas of fairness in law but generally if you're not working to provide security and wellness to man than you aren't doing justice. I've interpreted Socrates perspective to be that there's no better way to provide security to a nation than to educate them.
You're like the Carl Sagan of philosophy. I wish I studied history instead of chemistry. I loved it in school... Never too late to learn!
Daddy doesn’t like comparison. Daddy is Dr. Sugrue . The one and only.
@@sarooz48 I like the comparison. That helps me assimilate Sugrue's style. Idc what Sugrue thinks on a personal level, not knowing him! :)
I loved this lecture. I wish they play this video in all schools. I made my high school nephews watch . They lost interest very fast . But I had alot of fun picking thier brains the socratic way lol they were pissed .I dont know alot about philosophy but I enjoy a good lecture.
im just 8 minutes into this lecture, but God how awesome you are sir!
Changed my life forever!
Love to listen to your great lectures. Thanks for uploading.
His bit on language being a social enterprise and the way to deal with sophist/nihilists is to silence them, really resonated with me.
Thank you for educating me.
I read The Republic this year, and man, I really missed out. This is extremely valuable.
Thank you Dr Sugrue. Love yours and Dr Sandel and Dr Harari’s videos. Different but all very interesting.
He is captivating. Thank you for uploading this lecture.