Plato was unique, not a typical Greek. It is a big mistake to generalize from the example of Plato to the average Greek, who would have considered Plato an eccentric or even mad nut job.
Thank you for sharing this insightful video on the great Greek philosophers Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle. It's fascinating to learn about the profound thoughts and teachings of these brilliant minds. Your effort in making this knowledge accessible is much appreciated. Keep up the excellent work!
@@mammaboy1Socrates never wrote anything. All of his teachings come to us by way of Plato. So if you read Plato you will also be reading Socrates (assuming you go with the idea that Socrates' teachings perfectly match what Plato describes in his writings)
@@HelloBro-qr4heDiogenes was a student of Socrates. His love of Socrates is actually why he didn't like Plato whom he felt was overcomplicating Socrates' teachings
Many thanks for producing and posting this podcast on TH-cam, which I think is an excellent introduction to these ground breaking thinkers. And thanks for mentioning that "Plato" was a nickname -- which I have shared with some people, whom seem to distinctly disbelieve me! P.S. Unless I missed it, there is no reference to the incidental / background music. Would you mind posting this info on the podcast "Description"?
Time travel is easy and a yet to be invented mechinical time travel machine is not needed. All these ghost folks are freely available as audios on Libravox or as text at Gutenberg. The more you learn about them and their eternal age, the more deeply you can ravel in time.
One is absolutely Honored by such a glowing tone of reminiscence. Good Men worth listening to would be frustrated with these words providing Merit, though be healed by what is meant. How plain and Proud and evermore.” LEv MAB
I hope I make it to the Isles of the Blessed one day so I meet these great men and learn from their wisdom. Plus, I hear Socrates could drink everyone under the table so that'll be fun too!
@@macmel2160The Gods do not die. That being said, when humans die, there are said to be one of several places they go. The best place is Elysium which is for heroes, initiates of the mysteries, and virtuous souls. The Isles of the Blessed are a location in Elysium for the greatest of souls
How about a on the philosopher’s stone aka the sorcerer’s stone? Real myths compared to Harry Potter. And a vid on a pirate 🏴☠ who was known as The Black Cesar?
It's really just called the Philosopher's Stone. It was only ever called the Sorcerer's Stone in the American versions of the first Harry Potter book because they felt that no American kids would know what the Philosopher's Stone was. That being said, the Philosopher's Stone is pretty cool. It's said to be able to turn lead into gold but what most people don't understand is that this is also supposed to affect a change in the soul of the alchemist. Like the dull lead turning into bright gold, the human soul is uplifted when it unites with the divine. That is the true power of the Philosopher's Stone
I disagree. Aristotle was bad for science. Because of his belief that the sun revolves around the earth, many great scientists who disagreed were put on trial and ultimately executed. The church taught the teachings of Aristotle, the church was more powerful than the king so for centuries science was at a stand still. Thanks to Galileos heroism, we have the scientific method. I hate Aristotle and i hate how much credit he gets for being so arrogant.
I believe he said “let nature be thy medicine “either Aristotle or socrates . Pretty sure it was Aristotle. Base on medicine a till this day some college have there image as the father or founder of medicine.
I think you should have focused more on the actual philosophies these people held and described those in more detail. I was more looking for that than a history of the people behind the ideas
It is worth noting that while Socrates was condemned to death, he could have simply left Athens and gone elsewhere. Instead he chose to stay and drink the poison.
For Socrate is nr1 thinker in western societies... " Know your self" or I know I do not know " For the first time in human history he succeed to draw OTHERS ATTENTION to THEMSELVS, INSTED OF LOOKING UP TO THE SKY FOR GODS!
Socrates worshipped the Greek Gods. He described an encounter he had with local Nymphs, one of the dialogues begins with him attending a festival in honor of the Goddess Bendis, he heeded the command of Apollo to begin the work of becoming a philosopher, and his last words were a request for a friend of his to sacrifice a rooster to Asklepios on his behalf. In fact, Plato even says that Socrates taught that the goal of philosophy was so you can purify your soul to spend time with the Gods for all eternity rather than being stuck in the cycle of reincarnation
@@WildMen4444 And they Say his las words were adressed to a FRIEND for paying a rooster whom he took from a neighborow. So Xanthipa his wife not being in debt...
@@viorelpiscanu9425Here's the quote from the Phaedo: "Then he uncovered his face, for he had covered himself up, and said-this was the last thing he uttered-“Crito, I owe the sacrifice of a rooster to Asklepios; will you pay that debt and not neglect to do so?” He's clearly asking that someone do a sacrifice on his behalf. Nothing to do with stealing a chicken. It was common to promise the Gods that you would give Them an offering later in exchange for an answered prayer. Clearly Socrates felt that a prayer of his addressed to Asklepios had been answered and he wanted his friend Crito to do the honors on his behalf since he would now be unable to do so. Socrates worshipped the Gods. End of story.
@@jeroldpaquette9068 You may as well be saying you use bloodletting effectively. Or you teach Klingon effectively. The very premise is flawed. It’s nonsense. Asking questions is essential, of course, but answering the questions is infinitely more important. Socrates was a goober. If he even existed.
@Madfox4you experts say you are wrong. Ancient Egyptians are "Sub-Saharan africans " until they were taken over by persains and islam. And no egyptologists are a credible source.
@@zeroworldcraftThat's literally not what your comment says (at the time of this comment). And yes, I have. Every day, in fact. It's why I know so much about these guys.
@@WildMen4444 cool cool. I'll put your comment on a shelf right next to my old scholarship to study philosophy in ancient Greek, on the Greek islands. So, chill a bit. You are correct about my wording. Okay?
@@zeroworldcraftAnd I'll put your "scholarship" on the shelf next to all the things I doubt. Prove to me there is a direct link between Heraclitus and Socrates. What sources indicate this? If your "scholarship" (the word you are looking for is "degree") is worth anything then you should be able to answer that.
@forgottenlorebookshop8645 Athena is a sub Sahara African god, and the greeks honored her by calling the city Athens, where philosophy started to flourish
@@blist14ant She was Akkadian, Mycenaean, Minoan, perhaps Anatolian. But West African? That’s just wildly dubious. Attic, Scythian, but not Sub-Saharan.
I really dislike socrates. The only pupils he had worth anything was aristotle and antisthenes. There was a reason Diogenes pretty much made it his lifes mission to show people how foolish plato was. Socrates had the philosophers sickness.
It's funny that you are praising Diogenes while criticizing Plato when Diogenes was actually a huge fan of Socrates. The big reason why he hated Plato was because he felt he was overcomplicating Socrates' teachings. At the risk of sounding pedantic, I'd like to mention that Aristotle was never Socrates' pupil. He was Plato's pupil. Socrates was long dead by the time Aristotle came on the scene
The Socrates character is one of the most obvious frauds of the past few millennia. Aristotle provided more substance to the world on a Tuesday afternoon than this Socrates goober did ever…regardless of how hard Plato tried.
We've been working with the same voiceover team for years, sorry guys, no robots here. The voice is that of a real person. AIs are trained to copy professionals like him and now everyone thinks that real people's voices are AI. The irony of life
Socrates didn't force his beliefs on others. He didn't contribute anything to "science." He swallowed the hemlock drink. Not at all concerned about what society thought of him. Plato made a mess with his ideologies, the Greek empire soon disappeared.
Democracy can be quite difficult for highly intelligent individuals. Imagine a world in which it seems everyone and everything you come into contact with is seemingly completely at odds with the world as you see it. Everyone you attempt to comiserate with has no idea what you are talking about leading to loneliness as your ideas are so far ahead that it might be generations before they are even understood never mind accepted and normalised. Frustrating but ultimately character building, I don't begrudge him for his criticisms of democracy whether I agree with him or not.
@@WildMen4444 in a way they all matter and in another way Aristotle alone matters. In a way when you consider philosophy with respect to philosophers who are the non-Socratics, the Socratics, i.e. Socrates( who left nothing written), Plato and Aristotle, seem important. Socratics are important as a school. But in an another way when you consider individual philosophers Aristotle seems important. Aristotle is important not as a school but as a individual of a school. The difference is just in the point of view, i.e. which school is important or which philosopher is important.
The allegory of the cave is something everyone should read it’s crazy to think people from back then we’re even smarter than a lot of people of today
Plato was unique, not a typical Greek. It is a big mistake to generalize from the example of Plato to the average Greek, who would have considered Plato an eccentric or even mad nut job.
We have trouble being distracted by our luxuries and devices.
We live in an age of extreme ignorance. Most of what you think you know is wrong.
Why do you think people today should be smarter?
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Thank you for sharing this insightful video on the great Greek philosophers Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle. It's fascinating to learn about the profound thoughts and teachings of these brilliant minds. Your effort in making this knowledge accessible is much appreciated. Keep up the excellent work!
Thanks!
Socrates was a badass
Im going to read the writings of these three philosophers as soon as I can
No diogenes was the badass
@@mammaboy1Socrates never wrote anything. All of his teachings come to us by way of Plato. So if you read Plato you will also be reading Socrates (assuming you go with the idea that Socrates' teachings perfectly match what Plato describes in his writings)
@@HelloBro-qr4heDiogenes was a student of Socrates. His love of Socrates is actually why he didn't like Plato whom he felt was overcomplicating Socrates' teachings
@@WildMen4444to be fair, Plato was founding a new religion.
Thanks for providing great content, been watching for years. Keep killing it 🔥
Thanks!
the crazy thing and unheard of this linearity is that Aristotle was Alexander´s teacher. Crazy if you thing of the probabilities
Alexander sought out Aristotle that’s why
Thank you so much for the video I hope people now know who they really are
Many thanks for producing and posting this podcast on TH-cam, which I think is an excellent introduction to these ground breaking thinkers.
And thanks for mentioning that "Plato" was a nickname -- which I have shared with some people, whom seem to distinctly disbelieve me!
P.S. Unless I missed it, there is no reference to the incidental / background music. Would you mind posting this info on the podcast "Description"?
Three of the all time greats, but after watching this it seems Socrates is the goat.
If only we had a time machine. How I would love to go back in time and have a conversation with Socrates.
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Time travel is easy and a yet to be invented mechinical time travel machine is not needed.
All these ghost folks are freely available as audios on Libravox or as text at Gutenberg.
The more you learn about them and their eternal age, the more deeply you can ravel in time.
AI has a thing for Mel Gibson: Every old Greek philosopher looks like him in the movie "The Professor and the Mad Man," by Simon Winchester.
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Great video. Have an Edu exam tomorrow and this,really helped understand better. Would suggest adding criticism of their ideas ❤❤❤
❤🤍💙 all your video's mate👍
One is absolutely Honored by such a glowing tone of reminiscence. Good Men worth listening to would be frustrated with these words providing Merit, though be healed by what is meant.
How plain and Proud and evermore.” LEv MAB
I thoroughly enjoyed the music in background... So peacefull would really like to know the name of this music piece
I hope I make it to the Isles of the Blessed one day so I meet these great men and learn from their wisdom. Plus, I hear Socrates could drink everyone under the table so that'll be fun too!
Is that what they call Utopia like Greek Underworld where Gods from Greek mythology go when they die? Similar to Valhalla in Norse Mythology?
@@macmel2160The Gods do not die. That being said, when humans die, there are said to be one of several places they go. The best place is Elysium which is for heroes, initiates of the mysteries, and virtuous souls. The Isles of the Blessed are a location in Elysium for the greatest of souls
Thank you!
How about a on the philosopher’s stone aka the sorcerer’s stone? Real myths compared to Harry Potter. And a vid on a pirate 🏴☠ who was known as The Black Cesar?
It's really just called the Philosopher's Stone. It was only ever called the Sorcerer's Stone in the American versions of the first Harry Potter book because they felt that no American kids would know what the Philosopher's Stone was. That being said, the Philosopher's Stone is pretty cool. It's said to be able to turn lead into gold but what most people don't understand is that this is also supposed to affect a change in the soul of the alchemist. Like the dull lead turning into bright gold, the human soul is uplifted when it unites with the divine. That is the true power of the Philosopher's Stone
@@WildMen4444my boy Thoth put Hermes on
ghazali and avesina both were persian(iranian) philosophical personalitis not arab. i hope you search and check this .
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I disagree. Aristotle was bad for science. Because of his belief that the sun revolves around the earth, many great scientists who disagreed were put on trial and ultimately executed. The church taught the teachings of Aristotle, the church was more powerful than the king so for centuries science was at a stand still. Thanks to Galileos heroism, we have the scientific method. I hate Aristotle and i hate how much credit he gets for being so arrogant.
@@MoreOnPleeezHere's my question to you:
During which period were those scientists killed? Was it under the reign of the church?
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I believe he said “let nature be thy medicine “either Aristotle or socrates . Pretty sure it was Aristotle. Base on medicine a till this day some college have there image as the father or founder of medicine.
I think you should have focused more on the actual philosophies these people held and described those in more detail. I was more looking for that than a history of the people behind the ideas
Why would the allegory of the cave be a myth? That truly mystifies me 😅
4:41 is it possible he had that disease that effects the nerves
It is worth noting that while Socrates was condemned to death, he could have simply left Athens and gone elsewhere.
Instead he chose to stay and drink the poison.
For Socrate is nr1 thinker in western societies... " Know your self" or I know I do not know " For the first time in human history he succeed to draw OTHERS ATTENTION to THEMSELVS, INSTED OF LOOKING UP TO THE SKY FOR GODS!
Socrates worshipped the Greek Gods. He described an encounter he had with local Nymphs, one of the dialogues begins with him attending a festival in honor of the Goddess Bendis, he heeded the command of Apollo to begin the work of becoming a philosopher, and his last words were a request for a friend of his to sacrifice a rooster to Asklepios on his behalf. In fact, Plato even says that Socrates taught that the goal of philosophy was so you can purify your soul to spend time with the Gods for all eternity rather than being stuck in the cycle of reincarnation
@@WildMen4444 And they Say his las words were adressed to a FRIEND for paying a rooster whom he took from a neighborow. So Xanthipa his wife not being in debt...
@@viorelpiscanu9425Here's the quote from the Phaedo:
"Then he uncovered his face, for he had covered himself up, and said-this was the last thing he uttered-“Crito, I owe the sacrifice of a rooster to Asklepios; will you pay that debt and not neglect to do so?”
He's clearly asking that someone do a sacrifice on his behalf. Nothing to do with stealing a chicken. It was common to promise the Gods that you would give Them an offering later in exchange for an answered prayer. Clearly Socrates felt that a prayer of his addressed to Asklepios had been answered and he wanted his friend Crito to do the honors on his behalf since he would now be unable to do so. Socrates worshipped the Gods. End of story.
@@WildMen4444 OK... MY MISTAKE... THANKS FOR THIS ! 👍🤝
i like
Hippocrates was credited as the father of medicine...
Born before Christ yet Hippocrates oath still recited upto date in medicine....
Did you AI all these classical works of art? I'm proud of you.
"I thought Plato was a Greek dishwashing liquid."
The three are interrelated
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I reject Socrates, the absurd Socratic method, and Plato’s nonsense. Team Aristotle here.
The Method is a very effective teaching tool. At 78 I still use it, effectively!😊
@@jeroldpaquette9068 You may as well be saying you use bloodletting effectively. Or you teach Klingon effectively. The very premise is flawed. It’s nonsense. Asking questions is essential, of course, but answering the questions is infinitely more important. Socrates was a goober. If he even existed.
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And all got their knowledge from Africa. But most people do not know that and that was by design.
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@@Madfox4you I do not understand gibberish.
My ancestors created language and writing in Africa. @@Madfox4you
@Madfox4you experts say you are wrong. Ancient Egyptians are "Sub-Saharan africans " until they were taken over by persains and islam. And no egyptologists are a credible source.
Nah.
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Socrates is my goat
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Heraclitus was Socrates predecessor. Alexander was Aristotle's student. The chain is 5 people; not 3.
Heraclitus died ten years before Socrates was born
@@WildMen4444 I said studied. Have you ever studied anyone who died before you were born?
@@zeroworldcraftThat's literally not what your comment says (at the time of this comment). And yes, I have. Every day, in fact. It's why I know so much about these guys.
@@WildMen4444 cool cool. I'll put your comment on a shelf right next to my old scholarship to study philosophy in ancient Greek, on the Greek islands. So, chill a bit. You are correct about my wording. Okay?
@@zeroworldcraftAnd I'll put your "scholarship" on the shelf next to all the things I doubt. Prove to me there is a direct link between Heraclitus and Socrates. What sources indicate this? If your "scholarship" (the word you are looking for is "degree") is worth anything then you should be able to answer that.
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They learned from the Egyptians and west africans.
Nah.
@forgottenlorebookshop8645 Athena is a sub Sahara African god, and the greeks honored her by calling the city Athens, where philosophy started to flourish
@@blist14ant She was Akkadian, Mycenaean, Minoan, perhaps Anatolian. But West African? That’s just wildly dubious. Attic, Scythian, but not Sub-Saharan.
While African and Egyptian influences were no doubt present, to say they learned their theories from them is absurd
@@MostafaElSakari doctor Rebecca futo published papers on this subject. and im right that Athena was a west African goddess.
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I really dislike socrates. The only pupils he had worth anything was aristotle and antisthenes. There was a reason Diogenes pretty much made it his lifes mission to show people how foolish plato was. Socrates had the philosophers sickness.
It's funny that you are praising Diogenes while criticizing Plato when Diogenes was actually a huge fan of Socrates. The big reason why he hated Plato was because he felt he was overcomplicating Socrates' teachings.
At the risk of sounding pedantic, I'd like to mention that Aristotle was never Socrates' pupil. He was Plato's pupil. Socrates was long dead by the time Aristotle came on the scene
Can you elaborate further.. I am curious as to why you have such a low opinion of Socrates and Plato
Who would be some examples of philosophers who do not have the “philosopher’s sickness”? What is the “philosopher’s sickness” in your definition?
The Socrates character is one of the most obvious frauds of the past few millennia. Aristotle provided more substance to the world on a Tuesday afternoon than this Socrates goober did ever…regardless of how hard Plato tried.
Your pronunciation of many of these Greek names is positively villainous. Or are you a computer?
Hum.. now I'm questioning the nature of my reality. I wonder, what if I am a computer? 🧐
Computer for sure. We must put up w/ these mechanical voices, forever. I guess we must get used to it!
We've been working with the same voiceover team for years, sorry guys, no robots here.
The voice is that of a real person. AIs are trained to copy professionals like him and now everyone thinks that real people's voices are AI. The irony of life
Socrates didn't force his beliefs on others. He didn't contribute anything to "science." He swallowed the hemlock drink. Not at all concerned about what society thought of him. Plato made a mess with his ideologies, the Greek empire soon disappeared.
Greeks concentrated on philosophy and discoveries not giving much on sustaining empire until Rome conquered it with alot of ease...
@@PeterEwoton-tj1wn as a society. I'm referring to Socrates only.
How many are mentally pronouncing it as Socrates from Bill and Ted?
What a load of waffle
Fun fact Socrates hated democracy.
Democracy can be quite difficult for highly intelligent individuals. Imagine a world in which it seems everyone and everything you come into contact with is seemingly completely at odds with the world as you see it. Everyone you attempt to comiserate with has no idea what you are talking about leading to loneliness as your ideas are so far ahead that it might be generations before they are even understood never mind accepted and normalised. Frustrating but ultimately character building, I don't begrudge him for his criticisms of democracy whether I agree with him or not.
THEY WERE EDUCATED BY THE EGYPTIAN.
What makes you think this? They seem to have very few similarities from my understanding.
Aristotelian is pronounced ar-uh-stuh-TEEL-yuhn.
Only Aristotle matters
Aristotle was Plato's student and Plato was Socrates' student. They all matter
@@WildMen4444 in a way they all matter and in another way Aristotle alone matters. In a way when you consider philosophy with respect to philosophers who are the non-Socratics, the Socratics, i.e. Socrates( who left nothing written), Plato and Aristotle, seem important. Socratics are important as a school. But in an another way when you consider individual philosophers
Aristotle seems important. Aristotle is important not as a school but as a individual of a school. The difference is just in the point of view, i.e. which school is important or which philosopher is important.
All learned from studying in Africa for decades
They study under my pants
Go back further, to their teachers. Don’t be afraid to go to Africa.
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Boring 😔🪴
There was only one truly great Greek philosopher..Diogenes..
Diogenes wouldn't have agreed with you