Let's Build a Budget Bass Pedalboard! - Everything You Need to Know for Your First Bass Pedalboard!
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- Let's build a budget bass pedalboard! Today we have given ourselves a budget of £300 to build a full pedalboard. We go over everything you need to get started, and pick a few of our favourite budget pedals, like the Landlord Chorus & Behringer BDI21! | tinyurl.com/yadufywy
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» 0:00 What are We Doing Today?
» 1:02 First Thing You Will Need is a Case & Power Supply!
» 3:20 Firstly, Let's Get a Tuner!
» 4:45 Up Next, We Need a Compressor
» 6:10 Let's Add a Preamp Pedal
» 7:36 Let's Add a Chorus Pedal
» 8:21 Finally, We Need Some Fuzz!
» 9:13 Let's See What Each Pedals Sounds Like!
» 19:15 How Much Did We Spend?
» 20:55 Outro Jam on the Pedalboard
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trinity of bass pedals
- Tuner
- Compressor
- Preamp/DI
This is great, but I'd put a bit more into a propper power supply. Don't skip on stuff that makes noise you don't want.
What power supply would you suggest (keeping in the budget theme)?
@@markharrison1884 From Andertons I would go for the Trutone CS6(£129 atm). If that breaks your budget I'd go for the Tone City Sub 1(£75 atm). You'd at least want to try to get a switch-style power supply(SMPS) as the linear style uses magnets to convert power.
@@markharrison1884 Check out Harley Benton ISO series from Thomann. I have it on my PB, 0 noise, powering HX Stomp and few other things. Cheap and well made.
Group lift for the win!
I agree. I switched from a daisy chain to a proper power supply when I showed up to practice and one of my new pedals was making so much noise I had to remove it from the chain. Added a real power supply and there was 0 noise. Daisy chains are a horrible idea if you have more than a couple pedals.
I put a "budget" effects chain together for my kid recently.
For a few more bucks, you can put together a pretty badass practice/ budget board, that will work fine in a jam band.
Everything listed below is the cheapest I could find, that still works satisfactorily.
When it gets to the octave pedal, it's the cheapest I could find WITH AN UP-OCTAVER.
(Optional) Behringer Wireless
$69
Behringer Tuner $35
Behringer Compressor/
Limiter $29
Behringer EQ $29
Into
EHX Switchblade +
Line Selector $56.30
Channel B out:
Straight to straight to
Fifine 4 Channel
Line Mixer $26.99
Channel A out (line selector)
to
Donner Octave Pedal $55.99
Behringer OD/Distortion $29
Behringer Noise Reducer $29
Into line mixer
Line mixer out to
Behringer Chorus $29
EHX volume/
Expression pedal $60.80
Total, w/o Wireless system= $380.08
I don't think I've ever made a pedal board that was not modified as my needs changed. Most times I've just bought the basic to get the sound I wanted, then added as the need arose.
Another informative video from the bass boys. Good job. 👍
Awesome video. Great info on how to setup a pedal board for a bassist and at an affordable price. Well done. We need more bass videos
pretty amazing sounds you get out of this board! the behringer pedals do the job I guess. everything you need to get started. nice entertaining project!
The lads do bring the best Bass content. Thanks for remembering your brothers in the rhythm section Lee!
Greetings from Dallas, Texas! Always enjoy Anderton’s YT content; especially the affordable gear reviews. This is the first bass pedal video I’ve seen anywhere, super interesting. Thanks!
Howdy from Funky Town !! For those who don't live in N Texas,FT WORTH. 🤘🤠🤘
This was super helpful, putting together my first board right now on a small budget and the biggest takeaways were the case and the power supply.
I have had that Behringer DI/Amp modeller for years and never let me down and with great drive tone through my Mark and Eden bass amps.Retired it for a Sansamp but it’s there as a back up.
Love the outro jam! Lee is a cracking bass player.
At that budget I'd just be tempted to go the extra £30 and get something like a TC Plethora or maybe a Bass Fly Rig. You'd get way better build quality, much smaller size, more fx and less faff. That said, your beginner with limited funds would probably not buy everything all at once.
Nice vid! I currently have the EHX Bass Big Muff and the Behringer BDI21 on my board!
Muchas gracias Andertons!
En muchos eventos no contamos con amplificador de bajo, por lo que tenía que ir directo al mixer. El Behringer BDI salvó muchos conciertos gracias a que hacía un acople de inpedancia (como cualquier caja directa) y me ofrecía una simulación de cabina y un drive bastante decentes.
Ya no es mi preamp/DI de cabecera, pero es un pedal que aprecio mucho y sobretodo por su bajo costo, lo recomiendo sin dudarlo.
The chorus pedal really sounds great.
Great video! It would be nice to do another episode of "best rock pedalboard" but with no limits in price!
Great episode! You should do a synthy bass pedalboard, including fuzz, envelope, octave…
You'll only need one pedal for all that.. Source Audio C4...
@@patrickr6505 The capabilities of that thing are astonishing.
This is the exact video I've been waiting to see, fellows.
great tones :)
Chorus was great
Chorus is the cornflour of the music world... haha love it!
I'd always put the compression on the end of the chain. Found it was better at dealing with noise gathering.
It depends. Compression at the start makes sure it won’t react much to higher levels of certain effects.
The bass jam is like 60% JPJ-influenced, about 15% Jamerson-influenced, and 25% miscellaneous. Great stuff.
Definitely add an envelope filter or a phaser/flange after that.
+1 on the preamp pedal/DI. Lesson learned hard... especially when the venue needs to change the bass amp. TWICE!! Their DI doesnt help too.. LOL.
I would love to see you guys tackle a modern hard rock bass rig.
Well you could look atva multi-effects Bass pedal like the Vox Stomplab 1B and 2B. And other brands too.
I bought a B-stock Headrush Gigboard for £349 from Andertons. I keep wondering, since I only use one patch, with my core tone plus three effects, would I be better off with a dedicated pedal board? I think this answers my question! The Headrush sounds better, is more convenient, and does a lot more should I ever need to.
BDI and it looks like an eye where the switch is!
That Bass preamp/DI is a great choice it really earns its keep when going direct. The guitar version is awesome as well, the V-Tone. It's basically a SansAmp.
The Dr. J Sparrow is another good affordable Bass DI/Pre.
My path. Tuner-compressor-fuzz-overdrive. Seems to work fine
Currently run with Iset Lemon Compressor, Boss MT-2 , and the CryBaby Bass Wah . I'll probably add a delay pedal and a fuzz pedal at some point. Should never have gotten rid of the Boss Fuzz pedal
Ace vid. Let's have one for us disco/funk and dance players please.
Great video! I'd like to see the same thing but with a budget of £1000, on pedals alone.
Yikes
I have the same Muff Pedal.
i think you can have the behringer pre amp and tuner as the most basic setup but i hope you make the most budget friendly bass rig with a multi effects included, for a more versatile sound (multi genre rig) along with other essential pedals.
Nicely under budget and you could add some reverb/ delay with the extra cash.👍 Would like to see what you make of the zoom multi-stomp stuff. Bit old now but essentially a pedal board in one box. Presets look a bit fiddly to set up but i imagine great for a one sto(m)p shop once figured out.
Sssshhhh don't ever tell anyone this, but all the zooms from B1ON/G1ON, multistomp and above share effects, you can pick and choose from all zooms effects and reload/ reconfigure any of these units via usb. They also accept midi program change messages via usb. None of which is advertised by zoom, if you tell anyone, I'll kill you.
@@bassedtaz Nice! Thanks, good to know. I've got a cdr70 but haven't done anything other than reverb with it. Seems like they're incredibly versatile for the money!👍
Great video, is the an updated version as I couldn't find the pedal board on your website?
Excellent episode. A
Suggestion for a future one : compressor pedals. In addition to info on the ones you stock, maybe why you would use one; why not leave it to the sound engineer and anything else that you think is useful to tell us.
Great affordaboard! I have the Bass Big Muff and love it, but tend to rotate it with the [cheaper] EHX Bass Soul Food (which maybe gets used slightly more often, actually.)
I really love my big muff but ever since I played one at the music store a month ago I really want to upgrade to a Darkglass alpha omega.
I have the Bass Big Muff but I split the Dry out into a separate amp (I got the Darkglass AO 500W head and it's awesome). Wet out from the Big Muff into a Sansamp and a second power amp. Best of both worlds.
I love this video guys. Regarding the power supplier with splitter, I can't find on your website. I need to connect pre amp with compressor and I don't want to use the battery. Can you please send the link for the 5 splitter
nice video!
but isn´t the DI supposed to go at the beginning or at least, to be one of the first on the signal chain?
Not a fan of daisy chains, but everything else is on point. I saw a head to head demo of the Behringer DI vs SansAmp Bass DI and was surprised that in most cases I really couldn't tell the difference listening with my eyes closed. I started off with cheap Zoom multi-effects and now my board is around $1500 worth of pedals. Love you guys' demos! You two are great, but I do miss Rob and the Captain!
I love You happy face went play the bigmuff !
You play amazing 😧
I would have replaced the big muff with an octave pedal. The V-Tone already has plenty of dirt if you need it.
Laney are based in the Black Country (first Cradley Heath, now Halesowen) but were founded in Birmingham, their first factory being in the Digbeth area of central Birmingham…
So since the board you suggested doesn't exist anymore, what would you suggest instead?
Where would you add an Envelope filter and Wah pedal? I also have an Aguilar DB925 preamp. Would that go at the end of the signal chain?
One brand boards would be fun to do I reckon. Some people in remote locations only have stores that carry say boss or behringer etc.
Caline CP 60 bass DI would be a great alternative to the Behringer. Metal case and cheaper!
I'm transitioning from guitar to bass. Can I use my Joyo Gem Box iii with it?
Maybe throw in Behringer Ultra Octaver. I bought one while it was on mega sale and I was very impressed as to how well it tracked with bass. Not bad for less than 25 quid.
I bought that for $14 at Sweetwater too. I also got the CS400 in the video and a SF300 fuzz for $14 a piece. I'm not in love with the compressor yet. It amplifies a lot of hiss to wear I have to turn the presence down on my amp. The BDI21 is good, and it's made far better with the "FrankenP" mod to eliminate the filters. Overall though, the best Behringer pedal I have tried is the DR600 reverb for $25.
Hey boys... an octaver pedal might perhaps be sth to add, what tscha think?
How bout the "intermediate " Level board ?? ...quality power ,isolation ,Sansamp DI , a Dimension C , you can keep the big muff on there , ,that thing is awesome . I would NOT really be into high end ,cuz that's all over the internet anyway ,and to expensive :-) Thanks guys .
Any question buddy.. how about Squence if i make as like this Amplifier-BDi21-choruss-bass guitar
..???
Sometimes it just gets back to the old saying that "less is more" when it comes to bass. I do appreciate your great video's though.
Recently bough a BDI21 and it's incredible for the money. Yeah you get a bit more features and a metal case with MXR's Bass DI but it costs *five* times more. Have to admit it feels weird to run it with other pedals that cost even more than MXR though haha
I gigged with BDI for many years. Broke first one, bought another. I switched to Sansamp programmable just because you can save three different settings. Tone wise, I dont think it was much of an upgrade.
I got almost all these pedals
How much would it cost if you don't want to support Behringer?
I didn't like the Behringer compressor at all and actually passed it off to my band's guitarist, because it sounded great for his guitar frequencies...but I swear by the Behringer bass EQ pedal. I'd get the EQ, ditch the chorus and preamp pedals (if you have an amp), and use that money for the MXR dynacomp instead of the Behringer. So far I've got that EQ and the Behringer tuner and bass overdrive pedals and they're great. The dynacomp is probably next for me and then the big muff.
I thought the same about the Behringer compressor, I play in with an Alpha Omega and the compressor sucked all the low end out. I now use a TC Electronic Forcefield and it's amazing.
@@tgdb4968 I've bought the dynacomp since I wrote this and I got the amp pedal for going straight into the board, and it sounds great 👍
There’s no better fuzz for the price and even not thinking about the price... big muff are really great.
Yeah, I have a Big Muff Pi and it's definitely one of my favourite pedals
Behringer. Got mine for $10, best fuzz I've ever heard. All the muffs are muddy. The behringer is "a clone" of the boss, never heard the boss tho. Retail for $30 in Oz, thats like under $20 US. No brainer. Buy seven if you're concerned about reliability, they sound killer.
Nice
Can anyone tell me why compressors are run before pedals ? I was under the assumption you want all the effects and distortion before the compression , so the compressor will smooth all those tones out at the very end .
I've been reading around this recently and my understanding is: theres no set rule. You might want more expression out of your FX before compressing it so the compressor would go after the FX. Conversely, you might want a more regulated level going in to your FX therefore compress it first.
@@markharrison1884 ^ This. ^
How many amps should that 9V power supply have?
A funk setup yyyeaah please.
I know this videos old and prices have gone up since.. but ya save about 15 quid getting two landlord fx pedals and get that particular power supply and daisy chain free!
How about a 100% MXR board?
That case seems to have a lot of flex when pressing things with just your hand.
Yep - needs a decent power supply and an octave pedal. Otherwise good shout gents :-)
A funk board sounds like a great idea or increase the budget by 200 pounds/dollars
I didn’t know Kreese had left Cobra Kai to work at Anderton’s!!!
Is that a good idea putting the chorus before the muff? :D
that's what i was thinking, i thought modulation effects always come after distortion/fuzz.
I may be weird but as a live bassist I have never felt the want or need for a compressor pedal. I just taught myself to pluck the strings consistently from the word go.
Personally I would have gone tuner, chorus, delay, overdrive and fuzz. Most people with an amp already have a DI that they can send to the front of house built in which invalidates the pre-amp. As such it makes more sense to use that slot in the line-up to add a bit more flexibility in terms of the sounds you can get. You could also go for something like an EQ pedal or a compressor rather than an overdrive if that is what you like. Also, where it comes to the fuzz/overdrive and I was limited to just the single unit, I would go for something like a Rat pedal which offers a mix of overdrive and fuzz sounds. Having said that I still believe you would get better value for money spending the same cash on a multi-fx unit.
That's the way to go. But if you slap the bass it's more or less a must have IMO
So it's the power supply that's hissing like mad?
I thought daisy chains are a no go under any circumstances ;)
personally i'd like a fuzz with a blend control.
The Bass Big Muff does have a "dry" mode that blends the dry signal with the fuzz. I personally almost never use the "normal" mode.
If you're thinking this way, you may as well have multiple channels. Most basic is one clean bottom end channel and one "guitar channel" with your fuzz and drives. Because if you play the genres of music that would fuzz a bass, then you also need ODs and distortions right? And they need wet dry blend too, so put em all on the "guitar channel" just straight through, and have a normal, clean, comped or whatever bass channel.
I split the signal on my helix. Low end goes to a comp, high end goes to the b7k model before both paths get mixed back in to the amp and cab.
@@AndrewStonerock You have a helix. You have unimaginable capabilities, use them. My rig is centred around the X3 live, but I've milked it for every possible advantage I can get. So you've got same ins and outs as me, but way more processing power, you can do bigass complex multi channel parallel stereo madness, all in the helix. Then you can put stuff on the front end, or in the loop. I split before even going in to the line 6, so its two separate ins, and I can 'stereo' them right up front with a slight delay, a stereo chorus, or double tracker type effects, as well as comps, eqs, octaves even harmonizer and send that (now 'widened') signal into the line 6, then go bannanas in there, a stereo loop on either channel....Its mind bogglingly fun.
@@bassedtaz i primarily a guitarist. ive played guitar for 20 years. bass to me just needs to sit around the guitar and fill out the lows. so i just made a patch to do that. i did however make my own IRs for it, and they are pretty much ket to making the thing sound as big as it should.
Isn’t there a way just to subscribe ‘ All about the bass’ ??? I love watching it but I’m only interested in bass….
First:I don't like ditsorted bass. not at the Ebass neither at the double bass.I played about 3 years. country cash, elvis...My pedal board included the bass preacher.I had to change the instrument between two songs. That meantPut the double bass in the double bass Stand, take the E Bass and play. Next song with double bass EQ on,because the double bass Pickup had a smaller input.I kept it as easy as possible.
At first the annoying hiss only appeared when the BDI was on, but then it continued at all times. I would be interested in the source of it.
Daisy chain power supply, probably.
This is a nice video and I get people are often on a budget but that power supply is absolutely garbage, if you have to cheap out on a power supply and can’t go isolated, at least get a filtered one
cool vid, thanks
For me i'd also have a phaser.
FX are very subjective. Great example of what a budget board could sound like. Sound & function should always trump brand name & cost. Just because something costs $$$$ doesn't necessarily mean it's better.
@1:20 my next bands' name "Magical Detachment" lol
Thought he was boutta pull out some Jaco on us 👀
guys, I dont know what you were hearing, but in my highly dialed in EQ headphones (noting that I am also half deaf), the Behringer BDI21 added a high end squeel along with the depth of bass... That pedal defeats itself and ruins the recorded audio terribly.
Think that was because the cheap daisy chain power supply they chose was overloaded. Behringer stuff is cheaply constructed but they generally sound excellent.
Am i the only one noticing the horrible fret buzz 😂😂 otherwise awesome video ❤
I have never understood Compressors, it just seems like a different style of EQ.
I’m sure you’ve found out but it just levels out the peaks, making the levels more consistent.
I got some Roger Waters vibes during the compressor demo.
(:
Forget the distortion. Put a delay pedal in there!
The green tshirt dude is the uncliest uncle to ever uncle
Wow. OK.
As soon as you pulled out that power supply I thought, "They're going waaaaaaaaaaay looooooow budget. Like really cheap shit that will cause more problems than solves."
I'd like to see a bass pedal board for touring musicians that willing to put some investment into their craft. Easily done with some MXR or TC Electronics etc stuff...
There's a million of those pro level boards that cost more than a car on YT. These guys have made a world class tone for peanuts. You may think it isn't tour worthy, or gig worthy, but thiis is what will inspire young grommets to keep practising bro. And these behringer units do hold up so long as you don't stomp on them like TRex.
A humble suggestion: I'd put the BDI21 last in the chain... or else if I go straight to the P.A. or the recording interface with the pedalboard using the BDI21 as a D.I. box, what happens to the Chorus and the Muff? They're out of the game... cheers! 👋🏼
Yeah my son has fuzz first, then tuner, then drive then preamp in his chain. Some fuzzes are a bit precious about the input
Isn’t that Nathan King from level 42?
Yep.. on tour again in the Autumn. 👍
"...room for ya sausage rowes...packet a'crisps..."
The noise / hiss off the BDI seemed unacceptable to me ...
That BDI introduced some horrible electric hiss. I'm thinking a better power supply might fix that
Or not, it's a cheep pedal. Could be an interesting follow-up short
@@RealGengarTV my son has the BDI and it is totally silent powered by a Fuel Tank Jr. They are a nice bit of kit
I run a caline power supply and a bunch of these cheapo style pedals...Its the cheap plastic shell pedals causing the noise, regardless of power in my experience. 9v DC simply isnt noisy. Its the AC power that can cause grief. The old 60 cycle hum they call it. But on this rig, its the poorly grounded design of the pedals. There are remedies, open it, line it with copper foil, or fukn tin foil, ground the pcb, then ground that whole ground to whatever metal chassis is on your board. Plz correct me if wrong, I'm no electrical engineer.
@@bassedtaz you are not wrong. Powers supplies often get blamed for poorly grounded pedals.
@@bryantwalley Cheers mate, I'm only informed by my personal experience.
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really wish they recorded the bass different. It sounds so unimpressive with their set up lol
Maybe it's just me (and judging by the other comments it probably is) - but that sounded like £235 to make your bass sound worse.
Agree
Daisy chain power supplies. Yeah, they're cheap, but best avoided.
@@davidburnsmusicI used to have a daisy chain on my 5 pedal pedalboard. It worked fine, but all of the pedals were analog too. The only reason I got a power supply was because I was tired of connecting it and unconnecting it 😂
Fuzz (big muff) is really nonsense. Ruining a good sounding Bass tone. A bit of distortion can make sense, but is hard to find for the bass.
I think these pedals do make sense. A lot of music does not have a bass with a clean signal.