Sir Nick Faldo: The End Of Golf As We Know It | PG Podcast #5
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- With 65 million golfers worldwide, the game of golf is growing faster than ever… and with the rise of social media, Gen Z’s growing interest in the sport and LIV GOLF entering the scene.. the traditional golfing experience and dynamics of professional golf are evolving in real time.
So we sat down with 6-time major champion & 28-year CBS commentator Sir Nick Faldo, Eric Cogorno, Rick Smith and Donnie from Performance Golf to discuss what is on every golfer’s mind in 2024… what is the future of professional golf?
….will the PGA Tour SURVIVE the rise of LIV GOLF…
…and is there any hope the rivals will unite for the good of the game?
What are your thoughts? Join the conversation, leave us a comment below.
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World Tour! Exactly! But we wouldn’t be having this conversation without Liv! WT is end game!
Nick Faldo just described Liv golf thanks Greg
Your so right that's exactly what Greg wanted .When he first suggested it Arnold Palmer blew it out of the water . The PGA tour only have themselves to blame golf is huge in Japan and South Korea , did they try to incorporate the Japanese open or the Korea open within the PGA schedule ? NO ! Have the PGA tour tried to grown the game outside America ? NO
The PGA tours mission statement should be to grown the game , that's it in a nutshell GROWN THE GAME !!! How can the PGA tour grow the game if it only holds tournaments in America .
Look at the LPGA schedule, they travel all over the world and don't get as much recognition as they deserve.
Playing in Thailand and Singapore in Usa winter period hardly a hardship!
But the LPGA in Singapore is horrible with a bunch of nobodies. Unwatchable
Whether they choose to admit it or not, the PGAT needs to find a way to attract a new generation of audiences . LIV, love it or hate it, is the first to recognize that golf has to evolve to appeal to a modern audience. Moving the sport to digital and interactive feature to keep the new audience immersed in the game and no longer just a visual entertainment.
So in your opinion golf has to throw away everything great about the game in order to please the younger generation that has the attention span of a gnat?
I didn't know the game was broken for the last 90+ years and the courses were empty. Thank God someone is gonna save it and pull it from obscurity and obsolescence.
@@EnTitledTownexactly. If the ADD kids want bright colors and noises, watch LIV. EVERYBODY is replaceable. Rahm, Koepka, Phil, Bryson were nobody’s at some point. All the kids are good and hit it far, just need to win the trophies
Yes all the great players played all over the world....back in day...but that was shut down by the PGAT.
Excellent. Thank you.
New subscriber. Enjoyed this! I watch Liv, PGAT, DPW etc.
As a loyal fan of golf for over 27 years I am disgusted with what is occurring! No, the PGA no longer has the top players in the game! Half the players I followed are now in LIV and it’s now only about business and money. Furthermore, the PGA says they want to grow the game worldwide….however, now that I live overseas I cannot watch the PGA tour online, but I have the option to watch golf on TH-cam either live or recorded (as I live in an odd timezone) thanks to LIV Golf. I have become more and more disillusioned by golf and those who lead it!!
The only reason players left was the money. You are not making too much sense IMO. If someone came along and offered Rham $10Billion to play pickle ball, he'd quit golf. It's really that simple. These guys quit competitive golf most of the year, and are making buckets in exhibitions. I don't blame them.
The PGAT never had the top players in the world...back in the day thee were very healthy global tours, and, like Euro tour many players stayed in Europe
Even worse is the Saudi blood money. Won't watch😡
@@wreckimnot everyone is motivated by money though. If you offered Scottie Schoeffle 10 billion or nothing, hed say nothing and raise his family and build his own golf course. Not everyone is greedy
if LIV buys the DP world tour the PGA is done with
And the Asian tour
If the golf organizations or even multi millionaire players wanted to grow the game they would come up with initiatives to make the game more affordable and accessible to those with median and lower incomes.
No worries, right after Biden forgives students loan debt he’s gonna buy each immigrant and inner-city kid a brand new set of clubs, a yearly membership, and free bus rides to the nearest golf course. But the best part is the working class gets to pay for it all👏👏👏
How many regular golfers. Not the odd ones that are rare occasional golf. 65 million is a high number. Expensive sport. How many in tennis, pickleball, baseball, running?
Tough in a number of areas to get on course due to numbers and cost.
So how is it in trouble?
From day DOT, Greg Norman & LIV wanted both tours to co exist & they wanted to give players a choice to play on both tours. It was the greedy PGA that got all defensive. It doesn't have to be this way the PGA needs to come to the table & let both tours prosper.
Norman never wanted the PGAT to exist. He has had a vendetta against them since 1996.
He finally came across an entity that wants to buy a sport and gave him the vehicle to try and do just that.
Actually I believe if the PGA would've come to the table and let guys play both tours, LIV would've burned out by now. It's too goofy for a sport that is so intertwined with its own history.
The PGA Executives run by Jay M messed it up for golffans
I love the TV production!
It’s easy to not worry about how much money you have when you have a lot of it
Maybe they earned it?
What do the fans want? They want to be able to watch LIVE golf as it happens. The issue with a "global" tour is that if you are in the USA, events that occur on the other side of the world are over by the time you wake up in the morning. The difference between thirty years ago and now is social media. No matter how much you try to avoid seeing the winner, it is impossible to not see it before you've had a chance to watch a rerun. Therefore, most people do not watch it once they know who won. Probably one of the reasons F1 is not that popular in the US. LIV Golf is great when they're in the US but otherwise, they are not watched that much. Each geographical area of the world needs its own tour so people can watch in real time.
And you know golf fans in the rest of the world have had to put up with US time to watch 3 of 4 majors and any US tour event...so suck it up
i'm getting the impression that Sir Nick rally hasn't watched much of LIV - apologies if I'm wrong on that.
Ok, so I now watch a lot more golf across multiple tours, because of LiV - which I have become a pretty big fan of - and it is streets ahead of conventional tour golf in terms of viewer experience imo - with a few exceptions - majors etc.
Bottom line, the PGAT as was is toast - nobody on LIV is grovelling to go back, the PGAT simply does not have the players it needs without those from LIV, and so here we are - start of a golf revolution. Sit back and enjoy the ride...
It does appear that golf is going the way of boxing, where you have different champions from different entities....but there appears to be no unification unless you count only the Majors. But then again, I don't think that's going to work because I don't see anyone winning more than 4--5 Majors in their lifetime anymore. Heck, that's been the case since the Jack/Watson/Player era...and then still you had Trevino in there. Had it not been for Tiger, Phil would be the biggest winner of Majors since Jack with six. Yet, Phil never really looked like a dominating player, more like a player that never went away. Now, it's much worse. We might never see the best players together even once a year, as many are not qualifying for Majors to boot....and they don't really care, with $4M for winning some LIV event with music, shorts and three rounds....who knew this would happen?
And what happens if the Saudis pull out? There's no other entity that can fund Liv. It's not profitable and it remains to be seen how long the Saudis will throw money at it.
That being said, hundreds of millions to play no cut golf? I don't blame Rahm and Co for grabbing the cash.
Greg Norman proposed a World Tour back in 1994 and was shut down by the PGA Tour by Tim Finchem and Norman cast aside. Even back them he recognised a world tour was better for "growing the game" then being soley based in the US. The Saudi's put their money where there mouth is an backed LIV and bought marquee players with wads of cash, furthermore 3 of the 4 majors are based in America, giving the PGA Tour the monopoly back in the day as the place to make some serious money. The PGA business model is now threatened by the Saudi Public Investment Fund and they know they cannot compete financially, hence the possible merger. The whole "sports washing" premise is a smoke screen IMO, yes, the Saudi's have a non exemplary record with regard to human rights but lets face it not many countries do. I love all tours but all I can see at this stage is they are all growing the bank accounts and golf is not readily accessible to the average person given the outrageous cost of golf hardware (over $1000 for one club, seriously). COVID did more for growing the game down under than any tour...
180s ville.
Phil joined LIV because hes desperate for money as his gambling is out of control
Golf is a world sport, not an American sport. More golfers and golf fans in the rest of the world than in America!
The European Tour of the 80's/90's were more global and on same level than the PGA, but because of the PGA allowed to create a monopoly, all was centralized in America and golf around the world suffered...just looked at how weak the tour in Europe (DP Tour...lol) became.
And the Americans (PGA) don't want to loose their grip on their monopoly...specially with Jay making more money than 98% of the golfers on the Tour he is supposed to look after and lead!
I hope the tours stay separate...it is up to every tour to make their tour more attractive and better to keep golfers and to attract new golfers to their tour...not by using the influence you have to force partners to penalize golfers that chose other tours to play on, cause that way you drive fans away.
And every tour should have their own ranking system...OWGR is obviously a PGA ranking system. And if the Majors only use the fake and irrelevant OWGR to invite golfers and they keep ignoring LIV golfers, they run the risk of fading into just 4 more PGA Elevated Events....
Nick is a legendary player... his views are obsolete now... golf has always been a global game, but controlled by the American marketplace... no more... LIV has been a God send to the world of golf!
Professional sportsmen with maybe 12 to 20 year window to earn. You got to take the money. PGA tour was loyal to nobody.
It gives the fans variety. It gives the fans options. Par is par. The pro golfers average 69.3 on par 3. The top guys are on average only a little better. But the top ones who win can get occasional low scores around 62-65. Do it 3 (54 holes liv) or 4 (73 holes pga) rounds in a row is harder and what evens out almost all the golfers.
It’s our measure of ourselves.
There are lots of ways to enjoy the game. It isn’t all LIV, PGA, DP world tour or any other tour. It’s just fun.
The marketing by manufacturers is what pushes this divide.
No-one likes change. Exactly Pga tour don’t want a world tour they don’t want to make any deal with PIF they have hinted as much Spieth, Woods. This deal with John Henry’s group. Scheffler dominant world number 1 is on pga tour even if Rory joins LIV they will survive. Rory is playing crap at the moment it’ll be a decade since he’s won a major he will fall down the rankings this year might even slip outside the top 10. The PGA tour don’t need the Saudi money and I don’t think any more top players will leave this year. So no deal will be done. No-one watches LIV. I think Rahm joined LIV fully expecting a deal to be done he’s probably already regretting going once his 5 year exception runs out he’ll be back on pga tour same with Koepka.
i only watch youtube golf.
far more entertaining.
Totally agree I'm watching TH-cam golf now instead of the players. I mean there's some great players involved but they've no personality or anything that makes me want to watch them.
LIV is different....and thats its attraction. PGAT does nothing for global golf except maim all other global tours to the direct benefit of PGAT....
Gulfers.
Sim golf is when we can’t play outside in inclement weather, winter late fall, early spring for half the world’s population. Just blame Jay M. and Tim F. For this mess by giving the players the bird and ignoring their concerns. Otherwise we would not even be here. LIV is the future, PGA is the past.
Saudi blood money. Screw em
@@alexkalafjr.4880 most blood money is actually from the US kickbacks from running perpetual wars, thank Trump for highlighting that fact.
Faldo basically just admitted LIV is doing it right and PGA messed it up so just fess up to the obvious?
It's always easy to say money doesn't mean anything its the trophies when you're wealthy. If Nick had a stack of trophies and was living only on social security, I'd bet he'd be singing a different tune.
The old pros saying they never played for the money is total BS
L1V IS NOT THE FORMAT FOR A WORLD TOUR ITS JUST A CIRCUS
No it’s not! It’s an alternative, but a World Tour wouldn’t be shotgun start though! Thanks to Liv the World Tour is going to be back on the table.
Sir Nick… another bloke who canned the whole LIV concept and bagged Greg and now like Rory… he sees the plan and pretends he’s all in now. HYPOCRYTE!
Let’s grow the game PGA let’s keep doing exactly what we’ve been doing for 100 years. LIV lets do something different.
💩🤡🎪ALWAYS
If they ban the liv golfers from the majors they'll come back but them being able to play they can eat their cake and keep it
Pga dont control.the majors
@@neilcameron3021 yeah I understand but they got a lot of pull on them and I'm sure some good allies. I seriously doubt it will happen through but liv isn't making any money I don't think they've made enough back to cover one of those players.
@@mossbergshockwave623 saudis oil revenue in one day could buy the pga tour.If no agreement what happens if say Rory scottie zander etc follow
@@neilcameron3021 it will be very sad indeed. It just really sucks I don't know how they're going to make money on their investment in this clown tour which isn't competitive golf. Nobody plays golf in the middle east only in Asia Europe and America is golf popular and they're loaded with tours so I don't know. I guess they'll just keep throwing money at it.
Late stage capitalism - plain and simple
LIV teams are not going anywhere....
SO STUPID
If they break up the pga and do a world tour I'm done with pro golf
Bye Felicia
Please let Sir Nick give you what golfing was always about, in his playing time. And don’t try to make this a POD cast about you. I think you understand, who should listen more 😂😂😂
I really think the LIV haters are snobs who don’t understand that the PGA is run by the people who gatekeep golf from the casual fan. Boring to watch for the casual fan, no growth of the game with the stale old format.
BEST FORMAT
Trying to 'sex up' Golf with loud music, etc., and attempts to make it easier are doomed to failure.
The reason why Golf has persisted for 400 years or so, is that, it IS difficult and requires self discipline and self evaluation, all the traits, that the people they are trying to attract, DON'T have.
The short attention span, dopamine addicted, modern generation are never going to take to the game in large numbers, no matter what they try to do to appease them.
So, why alter or mess with a game that has been so successful for so many centuries?
Much better off leaving it as is, and the right sort of people will always fall in love with Golf, who cares if it can't compete with the NFL, or the NBA.
I'd rather let it die than have the 16th at the Phoenix Open at every Tournament.
Tiger, the great hero is finished..get over it
WOW
Tiger would get more exposure AND future in LIV golf , even without pay !
LIV can have concerts and loud music on the driving range because the events -- I refuse to call them tournaments -- mean absolutely nothing in the history of the game. Nothing.
Go away old man they'll be serving you lunch at the nursing home anytime soon😅😅😅
I have a lot of respect for Sir Nick Faldo, but he is way off in his observation of LIV. Their presentation of golf has room for improvement, but it is still heads and shoulders above the PGA tour. PGA has too many commercials because they have sponsors that need to have representation. I’ll take Fehrety over Tirico and Immelmann combined. The fact that CBS replaced Nick with that snot head was one of the reasons I stopped watching Golf. And now they are using Smiley Kaufman in place of the Zinger.
Paul Azinger nauseated me.
Ugh, this is just going on. I’m all for a 72 hole tourney with a 36 hole cut. The ‘music’ sucks and is completely unnecessary. It isn’t going to grow the game. The money is obscene, the love of the game is on the line. I’ll fight for the tradition of the game, that won’t change.
LIVE is trash it will always be a sideshow.
You are a🤡🤡🤡🤡
but when Tiger joins LIV you will watch
There's real golf, traditional golf, golf that actually means something in the history of the game called the PGA Tour and then there's LIV: the clown golf, the Harlem Globetrotters of golf, the meaningless golf played by guys over the hill and greedy guys who care only about money. I don't see any way, or any reason, why those two forms of golf need to merge or could possibly merge.
Thank god you're not running the game so single-minded you sound stupid every big sport gets guaranteed money it's the 2000s not the 60s wake up😮😮😮
Screw Saudi blood money. Pro golf sucks in its current state
you can not compare F1 drivers with Golf players, the injurys and strains are different, there is some comparison in the Business Model, and then is all lot to talk about... next time
Golf is finished
greed,greed I no longer watch Golf it's sickening shame on the players,
who is going to pay for this world tour ? it isn't going to be MBS . the local commerce does not support golf around the world , like they do in the usa . yes you can go play around the world , even if you win , you barely cover your expenses . and liv and DP tour show that these foreign country's do not support golf . the galleries are essentiality non existent . liv stacks everyone at the first hole to make the turn out look big , but it is only in the few hundreds . liv by every metric is a dismal failure .
Screen Golf is the future of golf. In Korea the men drive into these SG facilities with their girl friends or #2s and rent a room after work. They play golf in a comfortable private room, some of which have private bathrooms, and party with their gfs. Because of climate change this type of entertainment is going to take off everywhere, especially in the south where summer daytime heat index temps are going to become potentially lethal.
You utter, utter tube.
Just waiting for charlie to show up and kick some tiger ass !!!
The reason why there is liv and the golfers money.uspga.european tour, qualifying to play in majors that's the main aim
I really like the show but someone needs to tell the amateur in the blue hat to pipe down a bit. He's super passionate about golf which is great, but I'd like to hear Faldo's opinion without all the interruptions.
To me this all kicked off when Greg Norman wanted to create a true world tour. From what I understand, he thought it was a bit of a joke, when to be the World number one all you had to do was play and win in the USA. Sure golfers went and played in the British Open and Saint Andrews, but most just stayed in the USA.
If you don't play all over the world then you should be called the USA number one. If you play in Australia, South Africa, Singapore, Japan, Spain and Europe and North and South America, then you would be able to be the number one golfer in the world.
All the current world tours, plus LIV and the PGA should attempt to create a world tour consisting of 32 to 40 events world wide. This is the best result for the game of golf. Use the world rankings to create the feild and play the 72 hole events. Perhaps there should be some 3 day teams events like the Ryder Cup or the Presidents Cup.
LIV and the PGA needs to look at what happened to Indy Car and learn what is the best for the sport.
World tour for sure. I think the pga is us centred and golf isnt its very much global, liv has tapped into that. Pga have held on so tight they have choked themselves
Faldo ..evolution of a philosopher . Excellent.,
PGA Tour commissioner is to blame. He should have prioritized paying players instead of himself. He built a 60 million headquarter building. These bad decisions gave LIV an opening.
Liv has crupted golf with money.
Can't see the forest for the trees
Not interested in rock n roll golf. Sorry. Notice how some of the biggest jerks who share that mentality went to liv: reed,bubba,sergio,pat perez,even koeopka and poulter to a lesser extent.
Yeah . .have a band playing on each tee and a few dancers with pom poms. PGA should stick to its competitive principles. Sir Nick is an asshole
golf was ruined by the introduction of novelty equipment as professional gear sanctioned for tournament play. those clubs were designed for high handicap golfers and seniors to AID the unskilled players with EASIER to control equipment...
the result is that MISHIT drives now go 300 yards in play, instead of have consequences as has been the case with professional golf since it's inception. this provided UNFAIR advantage to the longest hitters, and the criminal pga acting as pimp for the industry, simply lengthened all the courses so that ONLY the longest hitters could be the most competitive...which is why the game today is measured by meaningless metrics like 'club head speed', something that never mattered to a game where PRECISION was the necessary component rather than speed, and SHOT MAKING the imperative rather than distance.
the net result is that professional 'novelty golf' is now for gorillas who measure their entire games by how far they can hit the drive...having now wedges into every par 4, and mid irons into par 5's, another offense to the traditional game.
all in order to sell expensive novelty gear that was never meant for professional golf!!
it's offensive, obscene, and absurd.
in addition, the Q school is the biggest joke in professional sports, practically gauranteeing that NO real competition will easily emerge to unsettle their limited hangout sport.
no more ben hogans...no more lee trevinos...no more tom watson or gary player...
i wonder if faldo believes we actually have the 'best golfers in the world' today?
i say we only have NOVELTY golfers today, since the best shot makers have been eliminated from the sport.
proof is the 2020 open where 'bomb and gouge' tactics of modern novelty golf allow a 'champion' who missed the most fairways, but coincidentally mishits drives the furthest!!
modern golf is DEAD because it was changed from the traditional game that rewarded skill to a novelty game that only rewards length that comes from novelty equipment.
i wonder how bryson would fair with a persimmon wood?
the real answer it to SHORTEN and TIGHTEN the courses...let them play olympic club or spyglass at traditional length...then we see who the shot makers are.
they have even ruined most or the courses today...who ever heard of 500 yard par 4 after 500 yard par 4!! who is that 'testing' but the tiny group of modern novelty golfers that the industry has created to sell their overpriced plastic novelty gear?
the leadership of professional golf should all be run out of town, some put in jail!
it's nothing but racketeering and fraud to force undeserved profits.
The real danger is that Saudi money will determine the future of golf, because who ever controls the money will control the game, the tournaments, and ultimately the rules and players, including national bodies. This has already happened in professional boxing, where the crown prince dictates who will fight who,. I for one think that this trend towards "carnival" atmosphere golf also detracts from the heritage and spirit of the game. It lacks class. What's next? Naked dancing ladies on every tee box? For all my detractors who say I'm a "stick in the mud", let me ask you this question. Would you still go to LIV golf even if they didn't pay as much as a normal tour event? If your answer is NO, then you are playing purely for money.
right said, but then again... why do these players lose the 'prestige' thing... lets face it , pga was just not legendary or prestigious enough anymore !
Dudes, take your hats off. Great guests of high status and stature and two bros' with their lids on. What is this, a BW3?
A bit extreme the end of golf, golf will continue no matter what, the PGA tour is a very good tour, liv adds a little spice to the professional game, theres so much room for all tours, I watch liv to see the best players, the PGA unfortunately is full of wingers like McIlroy etc, which turns me off.
Hey, who runs things can do what they want to take money from people. I don’t think paying 75$ to watch pros play with music blaring is worth my time. LIV is ruining golf for me as I love the beauty and quiet of a course. I’m playing now and young people are blaring their Bluetooth speakers on their carts. Yes, I’m old and I prefer select clubs that keep the tradition. Anything new and different is not for me. Luckily I’m finishing my journey. Enjoy yours where it’s all fluff and no substance.
Nippy thinks they should ban golf until 2056 and then start again. If anyone is seen playing golf or practising they should be immediately arrested until April 7th 2056. I think that is very fair.They can have cake to eat whilst in prison but that's it. It's a great game! The best game ever! They should also ban bunkers and make the hole 6 inches in diameter. There shouldn't be any cuts when it comes back and no one should be allowed to fly the ball through the air, only along the ground. There should also be a spaghetti eating competition at the end of each hole. There should be minimum of 46 clubs in your bag. No umbrella to be taken on the course in case it rains. Thank you. I feel that I have imparted some of my wisdom on you all. I won't charge you for it. I think I am being very fair here. Thank you.
So much money being thrown around..... Why are there so many golf courses shutting down and replaced by housing. Golfs turning back into an Elitist sport, Very sad.
Eric!!!!!!!! Great to see him on, so underrated. Oh and sir Nick knows a lot
Appreciate it!!
Nick is the real deal, ..Shark could buy and sell him 10X over, but will never be the man Nick is!
Just remember Norman is the Major Loser! A well earned nickname.
nope, sir Nick looks very ordinary
Yes globally people love golf Nick....what we do not like is the damage that the people running golf are doing to the game.
Golf administrators number1 priority should be to promote golf for all.
Instead of stoking division.
Shame on all the golfers and ex golfers who fed into that division including you Nick Faldo....you sir were once a hero of mine not any more after the stuff you spouted about LIV.
LIV is to golf what The Harlem Globetrotters are to hoops. Made-for-tv reality show starring has-been washed up celebs.
Yeah Rahm, Koepka, Cam Smith, DJ- all washed up
The reason why Sir Nick had to play “global golf” is because he HAD TO. He had to travel in order to make as much money as possible playing golf.
Today’s pro golfers don’t have to. Win 1 tournament and you make $4m. In 2023, 139 golfers earned $1m on the PGA Tour and 87 golfers earned $2m.
In 1990, Wayne Levi won 4 times on the PGA tour, finished 2nd on the money list & was named PGA Tour Player of the Year.
He earned $1m.
Today’s players don’t have to travel around the globe. 😎
Leave LIV golf where it's at and forget those players. I like the PGA tour. Those LIV golfers left on their own. They don't deserve to be put in the hall. The pga will make new stars. There's a reason that the pga had been in existence for decades, it works. I hate LIV golf and don't watch it. Don't change a thing, I like that it's hard to play. I don't need team play. Don't listen to Faldo
Exactly!!!!!
Why did the Saudi assassins have to pick our sport to wash their dirty hands? I wonder what Rahm’s motivation is to even hit a fairway after pocketing a cheque like that. Without competition the concept is doomed to fail, and the standard of play will fall. As the PGA Tour’s slogan was “These guys are good”, LIV should go with “These guys are loaded”. History repeats itself: Norman was draped with multi million-dollar sponsors back in the day (Reebok, McD’s etc.) but couldn’t close out a major. If Faldo stood within six feet of him, his heart rate went thru 200.
Liv money has not been given to nobody’s sir nick, look at the amount of majors won by the Liv players. I wonder who sir nick voted for when Greg tried to get a world tour going 30 yrs ago, lm betting he stuck with pga tour because tour players were threatened back then if they voted with Greg.
When asked who's going to go to LIV next, Nick goes "big rumors are Tony Finau and Tyrell Hatton". I can only hope for his sake this was recorded last year, but if this was recorded this year, and he just stated that, this one comment, along with many other things i can point out he gets wrong, shows how little he knows about LIV and yet talks like he town know it all. Absolute buffoon!
And a few more minutes in, they confirm this was recorded this year by their talk of events on the PGAT this season.
what's the point ? eventually even Tiger may go to LIV Golf
6 majors or a 100m? If winning 6 majors does not equal generational wealth for my family, which is way more important than any god damn trophy, i know which one i'll be picking. It's not even close the decision.
He admitted it himself in the video “i’m not smart enough to come up with a solution”. Yes we know Nick, your comments the last two years shows that. He has no self awareness.
Live is a good thing, they have rattled the cage of the PGA and taken them out of their comfort zone in my opinion is needed, there are millions of junior golfers out there,and the fact is There isn't enough room out there for them to rise,I wish there were a few more Liv's, to level up the field,I don't want to just see Rory and friends for the next 30 years, let's have new faces,🙏
I would say Formula 2 is absolutely considered to be a feeder series for Formula 1! Great analogy Sir Nick 😂😂
as events they can be compared, but the physical strains of the drivers and golfers are completely diffrent
BS you are full of it
"I honestly haven't a clue how much money I have but I sure know how many freaking tournaments I've won." - Outstanding.
Will just stick to playing it ,and forget about watching it
The US television interest dictates the PGA direction. TV provides the money & sponsorship of players follows the TV ratings and a players appeal & performance.
US PGA need to work through the current TV contract & then make a deal with LIV.
A professional global circuit across all continents is the future for world professional golf.
The remaining 99% of golfers will continue to enjoy their club & social golf and watch the majors on television or attend in person.
The US cannot continue to take the best from every tour around the world & expect there not to be a well funded competitive alternate that LIV has become. I agree with Sir Nick, LIV needs to become a little more serious for it to gain some traditional credibility.
There are plenty of golf content providers on TH-cam and they do a great job at providing golf entertainment. World professional golf needs to be serious or it risks being seen as a novelty & the tubers are doing that content day in day out without the billions in staging costs.
Amalgamate the elite from all the tours, have a professional circuit (tennis can do it, why not golf?) & let TV cover it not dictate golf’s direction.
So the four of you are all in favor of turning golf into a circus as long as you get more viewers, forget the history, tradition, and serenity of the game, PATHETIC.
What the hrll is the matter with you goons crowds are busting at the seams. The only mess is LIV$$$$$$
nobody mentioned why the saudis are puttin so much money into LIV. what is in it for them ?
I went to the LIV Golf event at Valderama last year to see what all the fuss is about. I’ve been to numerous Open championships, also regular tour events. And for the last 10 years attended the Scottish Open. There is no comparison between the two events. The atmosphere at the LIV event was completely flat. Phil Mickleson’s group teed off at the 14th where I decided to watch the 1pm shotgun start. The group around the consisted of about 8 stewards and about a dozen spectators. At Valderama’s iconic 17th It was sparceley populated , which compared to the Spanish Open where it is normal packed with spectators. The LIV players in my estimation are overpaid prema donas. The PGA & DP tours have nothing to worry about.
This world is being pulled apart by the greed of some for absurd amounts of money. To be driven by money is a self destruct mechanism. It leads to elitism which leads to resentment. No one begrudges someone who works hard and doing well in life but the portion of the cake some people want to take is ridiculous.
How about a worldwide circuit of Narional Open tournaments. Play in format, like it used to be.
LIV has no place in golf - I do not know of anyone within my golfing community who has even watched a single minute of a LIV broadcast
There are far too many words but in truth there is actually a simple solution, but that solution requires people (and how many things that are sensible are prevented by people?) to reach a decision. The first thing is to recognise that the purpose of LIV golf was only to disrupt and take control. I don't believe that the concept of LIV golf was really seen as the future. What they have done is take some of the best players away in order to get a seat at the table. The PGA is wholly protective and not open to change, or they aren't open to change they are not fully in control of. All sport attracts attention through competition and meritocracy. The majors are sacred so they take 4 weeks a year. I would then have 22 elite world tour events with an eligible field of 120. I would have 22 2nd tier world events (with a further 120 eligible players) for which their are titles but most importantly the top 20 of that order of merit are promoted to the elite division and the bottom 20 are relegated. The supporting tours have a similar structure that allows promotion to the 2nd tier and so forth. The 22 elite tournaments can be iconic PGA and DP tour events e.g. Waste Management, Arnold Palmer, Memorial, BMW PGA tour, Scottish Open, Australian Open. The 2nd tier can be similar events such as European Open, Made in Denmark, British Masters, Byron Nelson (NB: These are suggestions). For the remaining period have 4-6 "team events" in different global locations. I would align with the LPGA and have a World Match play for the top 16 players through a defined qualification from the men's and women's game i.e. the top 16 men playing a straight knock out against each other and the same with the women. Now that is logical, it can be made compelling and it brings the best players together. The scheduling can be made so that there is a "big" tournament somewhere in the world most weeks. There is no reason why that can't happen other than people, who probably earn far more then they should, can't agree. Those peope are the ones who provide the entertainment and excitement i.e. the golfers they are the "suits" who know better than all of us. When they reach a solution that is close to my suggestion, because I think they will (continue as they are and people will choose to watch professional golf less and less) they can give me a consultancy fee 🙂
I love watching LIV Golf and the format with team events, I also prefer no cuts it gives everyone an opportunity to climb the ladder and earn a living
I would add to the list - shotgun starts -- it is great to be able to watch the entire rounds of all golfers in 5 hours as opposed to 12 hour for a reduced field or post cut regular PGA tour event.
Earn a living…?
They’ve been given millions before they start! The living has been made!
Just go to your member/guest for that.
How does a closed field with players pre-paid help someone “climb the ladder?”
@@JackSmith-qi7dr it's no different to the likes of Rory, Jordan, Tiger etc etc singing millions in sponsorship deals.