You might like to recreate REAL events from WW2. Read "Fly for your Life", the biography of the Spitfire ace, Bob Stanford Tuck. He was alone over the North Sea and attacked by some 109s. He shot down three or four (I can't remember) but his Spitfire was damaged and he baled out. The combat was seen by a British trawler, which rescued him.
@@TJ3 IDEA FOR A FUTURE VIDEO: Read "The Big Show", the autobiography of the French Spitfire ace, Pierre Clostermann, He was flying a specialised high altitude Spitfire, to intercept photo-reconnaissance 109s. There was a chase. The 109 put his nose down They dived faster and faster. the 109 tried to pull out and his wings came off, a commonplace event with 109s in high-speed high-G turns.
Now i m watching these dogfights of planes, espicially those Spitfire remains me during mine younger days, around late fifties n early sixties, my dad used to buy comics of fighter planes from Britain against those from Germany during WW 2. 'BATTLER BRITAIN' thats the top fighter pilot flying a spitfire, my favourite..
The thing that gets me in these game videos is like when the spit is in a steep bank, the ailerons are deflecting opposite of the way they should be. A litter later the 109's control is right then it's wrong, all in the same scene from one movement to the next.
Why would you think they are deflected in the wrong direction ? Once the bank is established, the up wing is faster than the down wing, so it produces a little more lift you have to counteract this tendency by banking slightly opposite of the turn, if you don't your plane keeps rolling.
Exactly what I was thinking, I would not get into a rate fight with a Spitfire. Bf 109’s are energy fighters, not dogfighters. As a fighter pilot I would never fight the other pilots fight unless I had such a sweet shot that I thought I could end it quickly, but if I missed then I would immediately try turning it into my fight.
What fuel is the spitfire using? Is it American 150 octane vs a 87 octane bf109? How about the bf109 get the same fuels see which is faster after a quick tune.
I think RAF pilots were flying on patrols in groups of two or four fighters. Alone spitfires had to report weather situation to OPS and they didn´t have to attack enemy planes 🤔
Soon after the invasion the Allies faced the problem of camouflaging their aircraft when they're situated at local airfields in France. To get rid of this, they decided to leave the stripes as they were beneath, so it was still possible to quickly identify Allied aircraft in the air (quite similar to the germans painting their noses yellow underneath). But to retain the ease of camouflaging planes the stripes were got rid of everywhere else.
@@mugsnvicki I don't think I've seen that episode (maybe I have??) so I don't know what he says but I'm going to speculate and say he thinks it's acceptable to use one or the other. Certainly, in the German records both prefixes are sometimes used for the 109. However, the fact remains that the Bf 109 was the product of another company that was eventually acquired by Messerschmitt, at the direction of the National Socialist state. The accepted convention in such circumstances is that the original designation, in this case Bf 109 remains in force. So, the 109 remains a Bf while the 410, for example, is rightly prefaced by Me. Just because a bunch of sloppy officials fail to adhere to the correct convention doesn't change what is, or is not, 'correct'.
@@mugsnvicki Yeah, on reflection I think I probably have seen it, and I also think I left a comment along the same lines as above. I'm nothing if not consistent.
Creo que su computadora necesita tener una mejor tarjeta gráfica. Este es un juego exigente para el rendimiento de la computadora. Puede funcionar en una computadora con requisitos mínimos según lo especificado por el juego, pero la noche visual y tal vez incluso el rendimiento del juego sufren. Lo siento por el traductor de Google en español;)
Good job with this video. Accurate dogfighting tactics and beautifully designed scenery and aircraft types. I do wonder though, what is the point of guys only in fighter aircraft shooting each other out of the sky? This presentation needed a few dozen Luftwaffe bombers to justify the RAF patrol and the German BF-109s escorts even being up there in the first place, right?
Usually it is. It could be a scramble, but still those have origin from Defense fighters against escorts. So yeah, no realistic point in that dogfight, but if realistically RAF saw some 109s coming even without reason they’d obviously shoot em down
Anyway, operationally during the Battle of Britain, the RAF tried to avoid wasting their fighters on patrols and seeking combat with fighters, their job was to knock down the bombers and avoid getting sucked into the type of battle the Germans wanted them to fight. Yes dogfights did occur & the British did send out fighter patrols, but they weren't considered ideal for the British
@@derricklarsen462 Especially after the official end of the Battle of Britain, in November & December 1940 when the Germans turned to using fighter-bomber nuisance raids & when the RAF started to offensively "lean into France"
@Dr Chad ThunderCock No, it depended on the version of each fighter. The best Bader flew in WW2 was the Spit Mk V, which the Fw190 outclassed. Along came the Spit Mk IX in later 1942 and 43 and the Germans were on their heels again.
@@tomcumby1118 So was I. You look at any TH-cam video of aero engines being fired up and you will see that the flames are in the blue spectrum when the engine is above tickover.
120 rounds per gun for the two cannon and 350 rounds per gun for the two 0.5 machine guns. Plenty for short bursts of fire, good pilots did not waste ammunition.
Looking at the tail fin it must be a Mk iiiv or Mk xii . A real action on the 25/5/43 when four Mk xii's shot down five Fw 190's for no loss , off Folkstone Kent.
In these fantasy flight sims, the human player scores a hit kill with every attack while the AI flies around randomly for target practice. Why are these bf-109s not getting on the Spit's tail? Why are they flying around in no discernible formation? I mean, at 8:33 the bf-109 that was momentarily on the Spit's tail just dives into the sea for no good reason. It's good clean fantasy fun, but let's not pretend that it's anything like real battle simulation.
A little history on the 303 Pols Squadron . They had a lot more kills than the Brits for the size of their group compared to other British Sqadrons of the same size they also received many medals for their gallantry . After the war was over they told the Pols well were done with you pretty much GTFO and go back to Poland . Poland was torn to pieces there was not much left to go back to. Also after the war they had a Victory Parade and the Pols where not invited because Churchill did not want to offend the Russians . One woman that was the daughter of one of the pilots from the 303 said it broke her dads heart . The 303 was some bad ass mofos they just wanted to kill Germans because of what they did to their country . Not down playing the Brits they are some bad ass's too and very tough
Fyi blacking out when preforming high g turns wouldn't render pilot unconscious it just effects vision www pilots used black and grey outs in combat i.e. your blacked out so I your enemy therefore cannot see you
So, what's your point? Couldn't you just enjoy a well made, entertaining video which takes a great deal of effort on the part of TJ3 Gaming to produce and no effort on your part to make a snarky remark? Why not, instead, just say, "Thank you."? Let me show you how it's done. Thank you TJ3 Gaming for the nicely done video.
I suggest you make the Spitfire more graphically correct. There is only a single air scoop located under the starboard wing. Not 2 as in the first part of the cgi and not 1 midship as shown later.
If it is based on real facts...polish pilot of 303 Division shot 4 Bf109 (the tails were without girders?) than it is fine. Polish pilots were the most experienced in the world during this time..had to struggle with Germans in Poland, then France, now UK...German fiigters could be good...had always better machines...now the Polish pilot got even better plane...so the results could be like this. The 303 Squadron used first the Hurricanes..but there were many other Polish Squadrons..in general 12 000 polish airmen (with all auxiliary service) were engaged in the UK. Polish Govenrment had to pay it with gold...as British said "this was your business, you were fighting against Germans for your country". So Churchill send an invoice for every bullet shot by e.g. this Spitfire.
take your "level of experience" off "easy" or "don't hurt me" and see how you would do. Your tactics are suicidal down low. No way a spit can win against 4 109's. Other than that, love your channel.
Yeah, the fact that he was flying straight and level while these 109s fired their cannons wildly past him really shows what skill level the ai were. Try this against humans and you'd be dead in 2 seconds.
So this is Spitfire # 3 ( 3rd build ) 109s were only there to protect bombers , why are there no bombers in this vid ? Actually by the time block 3 were built Battle of Britian was over . Very unrealistic vid .
Allies designates those planes as "ME" after it's Designer and Manufacturer Wilhelm Emil "Willy" Messerschmidtt so both are correct but I don't think it's necessary to correct it as like I said it's OK to designate them as ME-109 as the Allied designation
Not so unrealistic, one lone Spitfire pilot shot down 4 and damaged a 5th Fw 190, then shot down another and damaged another Luftwaffe aircraft in a short time.
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@OGTS Old Man Two Shoes All good! I appreciate the thought!
TJ3 ,GAMING. I really enjoy watching, your air combat .The take down's and the dog fight's. Keep bringing more good air combat VIDEO'S.
It’s a bf 109 not a me 109
You might like to recreate REAL events from WW2.
Read "Fly for your Life", the biography of the Spitfire ace, Bob Stanford Tuck. He was alone over the North Sea and attacked by some 109s. He shot down three or four (I can't remember) but his Spitfire was damaged and he baled out. The combat was seen by a British trawler, which rescued him.
@@TJ3 IDEA FOR A FUTURE VIDEO: Read "The Big Show", the autobiography of the French Spitfire ace, Pierre Clostermann, He was flying a specialised high altitude Spitfire, to intercept photo-reconnaissance 109s. There was a chase. The 109 put his nose down They dived faster and faster. the 109 tried to pull out and his wings came off, a commonplace event with 109s in high-speed high-G turns.
Great video! No talking or music. Couldn't hit the subscribe button quick enough.
Showing the bullets hit the water surface! Excellent.
I just keep thinking of the line "Four in a day, shot down with engines burning" from Sabaton's song "The Red Baron".
I used to guard his engine.
Now i m watching these dogfights of planes, espicially those Spitfire remains me during mine younger days, around late fifties n early sixties, my dad used to buy comics of fighter planes from Britain against those from Germany during WW 2. 'BATTLER BRITAIN' thats the top fighter pilot flying a spitfire, my favourite..
I love the spitfire. But the hawker hurricane is pretty good too not as good as the spitfire but still pretty damn good.
Now that is a Winged Hussar!
Amazing video feels like you are really there. Always love SPITFIRES.
Good scrap mate, loved it! 👍
This game is just amazing
Epic dogfight, keep them comin.
Great video! Keep up the good work.
Wow what a video !!!! Top notch!!!!!
Josef Frantisek… WWII Ace who was so good he was allowed to fly out of formation and do his own thing.
I am very impressed with the graphics of IL2...
I think this one is the best yet.
Nice work!
Thoroughly enjoyed!
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Been flying IL-2 for years. What experience level is AI set to? Germans seem passive. Are you using realistic damage and gunnery? Nice visuals.
I believe in this recording I had them set on Average, and yes I think so.
UK scouts in early 60's had subscription to Lion Monthly - comics and much more. A regular feature was RAF command.
The Spitfire wasn't all that good, until America gave Great Britain 100+ octane gasoline. It made the Spitfire's climb rate twice what it was.
Nice editing. Prop hanging with the 109 on tail is an instant death. The Polish pilot was lucky to fight much worse pilots in those 109s ;)
Someone noticed!
Maybe in a MkI or Mk V Spifire. Not in a mk IX.
Good video my comrade,but i like the Bf-109 XD
Great Job!!
Great work!! It looks real! I wifi this was a video game !!! But I'm enjoying the epic videos!! Well done one and all!!
Lovely video, the vertical overshoot maneuver however was cream.
Great imagery!
The thing that gets me in these game videos is like when the spit is in a steep bank, the ailerons are deflecting opposite of the way they should be. A litter later the 109's control is right then it's wrong, all in the same scene from one movement to the next.
Why would you think they are deflected in the wrong direction ? Once the bank is established, the up wing is faster than the down wing, so it produces a little more lift you have to counteract this tendency by banking slightly opposite of the turn, if you don't your plane keeps rolling.
Your videos are nice. I like them
03:45 and 05:30, Spitfire pilot was heard clearing his throat.🤣
They got into a turning fight with a spit fire
Exactly what I was thinking, I would not get into a rate fight with a Spitfire. Bf 109’s are energy fighters, not dogfighters. As a fighter pilot I would never fight the other pilots fight unless I had such a sweet shot that I thought I could end it quickly, but if I missed then I would immediately try turning it into my fight.
What fuel is the spitfire using? Is it American 150 octane vs a 87 octane bf109? How about the bf109 get the same fuels see which is faster after a quick tune.
Do more of this
Im from Poland too!
I love this
Do you got any of these videos with fighter jets 👀
I think RAF pilots were flying on patrols in groups of two or four fighters. Alone spitfires had to report weather situation to OPS and they didn´t have to attack enemy planes 🤔
What a warrior!
Is it online?
What you should do is interview WWII vet pilots and show their real-life combat stories.
AH yes something i do every fucking day cuz its so easy to find them
There probably aren't any alive anymore.
It's too late for that Chief They're All Dead
why does the Spit have invasion stripes just under the belly and nowhere else, instead of everywhere ?
Soon after the invasion the Allies faced the problem of camouflaging their aircraft when they're situated at local airfields in France.
To get rid of this, they decided to leave the stripes as they were beneath, so it was still possible to quickly identify Allied aircraft in the air (quite similar to the germans painting their noses yellow underneath). But to retain the ease of camouflaging planes the stripes were got rid of everywhere else.
I had to watch this again...👍
12:42
BF-109 pilot: time to bail out now
Did you or your device blacked out?😀
Does Il2 work on windows10
It's a little thing but it nevertheless bugs me. The correct nomenclature is 'Bf 109', not Me 109.
check out Bismarck's channel. He addresses this.
@@mugsnvicki I don't think I've seen that episode (maybe I have??) so I don't know what he says but I'm going to speculate and say he thinks it's acceptable to use one or the other. Certainly, in the German records both prefixes are sometimes used for the 109. However, the fact remains that the Bf 109 was the product of another company that was eventually acquired by Messerschmitt, at the direction of the National Socialist state. The accepted convention in such circumstances is that the original designation, in this case Bf 109 remains in force. So, the 109 remains a Bf while the 410, for example, is rightly prefaced by Me. Just because a bunch of sloppy officials fail to adhere to the correct convention doesn't change what is, or is not, 'correct'.
Ja, ich denke du hast es gelesen.@@haroldgodwinson832
@@mugsnvicki Yeah, on reflection I think I probably have seen it, and I also think I left a comment along the same lines as above. I'm nothing if not consistent.
@@haroldgodwinson832 a good response. Hello from Canada.
Perdon por la pregunta, yo tengo ese juego pero a mi no me sale esa calidad en los aviones en que consiste?.
Perdon si estoy preguntando algo obvio .
Creo que su computadora necesita tener una mejor tarjeta gráfica. Este es un juego exigente para el rendimiento de la computadora. Puede funcionar en una computadora con requisitos mínimos según lo especificado por el juego, pero la noche visual y tal vez incluso el rendimiento del juego sufren. Lo siento por el traductor de Google en español;)
@@Martinko_Pcik Gracias, eso debe de ser saludos desde Córdoba.
How were you sponsered by a book?
No more Mr. Nice Guy.
Great!
It seems to me that Spitfire had twice its normal 20 mm Cannon load??
nice... which simulator is this??
IL=2 Sturmovik Great Battles
@@TJ3 thanks.
Nice
If you check your Audio Levels you won't end up with Sound clipping like this
good job
Do u need a joystick for this game?
Probably. They are super cheap though. Mine was $25
Do Spitfire vs. Me 262
Good kill!
One against four ....at least the odds were even..
Wow, the 109 is so bad it can still be killed in a video game 4 times
What’s this game?
IL-2 Sturmovik Great Battles
Good job with this video. Accurate dogfighting tactics and beautifully designed scenery and aircraft types. I do wonder though, what is the point of guys only in fighter aircraft shooting each other out of the sky? This presentation needed a few dozen Luftwaffe bombers to justify the RAF patrol and the German BF-109s escorts even being up there in the first place, right?
Usually it is. It could be a scramble, but still those have origin from Defense fighters against escorts. So yeah, no realistic point in that dogfight, but if realistically RAF saw some 109s coming even without reason they’d obviously shoot em down
Pure fighter on fighter dogfights did happen.sometimes they were the only action of the day.
Problem is, IL-2 used a mid-1944 Spitfire and a late-1944 Bf109 (painted in 1940 colours) in a mid-1940 scenario, so none of this makes sense...
Anyway, operationally during the Battle of Britain, the RAF tried to avoid wasting their fighters on patrols and seeking combat with fighters, their job was to knock down the bombers and avoid getting sucked into the type of battle the Germans wanted them to fight. Yes dogfights did occur & the British did send out fighter patrols, but they weren't considered ideal for the British
@@derricklarsen462 Especially after the official end of the Battle of Britain, in November & December 1940 when the Germans turned to using fighter-bomber nuisance raids & when the RAF started to offensively "lean into France"
The best 15 minutes I've spent in a while.
It's actually BF-109 but still a cool vid!
What's the difference between ME and BF? I've always thought ME stood for Messerschmitt, which would make it correct?
both are correct.
@@ripzoid7773 actually BF is the real one
gota love spitfire
WOW FOUR GERMAN SHOT !!!!!! GREAT !!!!!
This must be an absolute EXPERT !!!!!!
Don´t mention Adolf Galland !!!
Wait why is this what they chose for the title? Wouldn't it be more surprising if he didn't take them down? It's a spitfire ffs.
@Dr Chad ThunderCock No, it depended on the version of each fighter. The best Bader flew in WW2 was the Spit Mk V, which the Fw190 outclassed. Along came the Spit Mk IX in later 1942 and 43 and the Germans were on their heels again.
the proper designation is BF 109
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bro do you have instagram?
Haha no but I probably need one!
@@TJ3 ok
Engine exhaust so much attn to detail. And they do that
Yeah, shame it's the wrong colour though.
@@Sorarse i'm talkin about fire coming out, not color of metal
@@tomcumby1118 So was I. You look at any TH-cam video of aero engines being fired up and you will see that the flames are in the blue spectrum when the engine is above tickover.
He must be an great pilot, shoot down 4 German planes in one battle.
He said me-109....NICE
Landing with a monstrous kangaroo!
4:00 first shots fired
Good stick.
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dogfihts my fav
Polish painting👍😎
While you were chasing that one the other three would have got on your tail and wasted you
Taking on 4. Abbevilleboys (Yellow noses ) "expertin" and winning. Must be Eric Hartmann switching sides.
Just seems like a lot of amo for a Spit
120 rounds per gun for the two cannon and 350 rounds per gun for the two 0.5 machine guns. Plenty for short bursts of fire, good pilots did not waste ammunition.
Looking at the tail fin it must be a Mk iiiv or Mk xii . A real action on the 25/5/43 when four Mk xii's shot down five Fw 190's for no loss , off Folkstone Kent.
In these fantasy flight sims, the human player scores a hit kill with every attack while the AI flies around randomly for target practice. Why are these bf-109s not getting on the Spit's tail? Why are they flying around in no discernible formation? I mean, at 8:33 the bf-109 that was momentarily on the Spit's tail just dives into the sea for no good reason. It's good clean fantasy fun, but let's not pretend that it's anything like real battle simulation.
do they use war thunder engine for il2?
pretty much the same.
Go get some glasses
No war Thunder is nothing compared to this
A little history on the 303 Pols Squadron . They had a lot more kills than the Brits for the size of their group compared to other British Sqadrons of the same size they also received many medals for their gallantry . After the war was over they told the Pols well were done with you pretty much GTFO and go back to Poland . Poland was torn to pieces there was not much left to go back to. Also after the war they had a Victory Parade and the Pols where not invited because Churchill did not want to offend the Russians . One woman that was the daughter of one of the pilots from the 303 said it broke her dads heart . The 303 was some bad ass mofos they just wanted to kill Germans because of what they did to their country . Not down playing the Brits they are some bad ass's too and very tough
Fyi blacking out when preforming high g turns wouldn't render pilot unconscious it just effects vision www pilots used black and grey outs in combat i.e. your blacked out so I your enemy therefore cannot see you
Hi
Against BOS AI is is hardly difficult to get 4 kills
So, what's your point? Couldn't you just enjoy a well made, entertaining video which takes a great deal of effort on the part of TJ3 Gaming to produce and no effort on your part to make a snarky remark? Why not, instead, just say, "Thank you."?
Let me show you how it's done.
Thank you TJ3 Gaming for the nicely done video.
I suggest you make the Spitfire more graphically correct. There is only a single air scoop located under the starboard wing. Not 2 as in the first part of the cgi and not 1 midship as shown later.
If it is based on real facts...polish pilot of 303 Division shot 4 Bf109 (the tails were without girders?) than it is fine. Polish pilots were the most experienced in the world during this time..had to struggle with Germans in Poland, then France, now UK...German fiigters could be good...had always better machines...now the Polish pilot got even better plane...so the results could be like this. The 303 Squadron used first the Hurricanes..but there were many other Polish Squadrons..in general 12 000 polish airmen (with all auxiliary service) were engaged in the UK. Polish Govenrment had to pay it with gold...as British said "this was your business, you were fighting against Germans for your country". So Churchill send an invoice for every bullet shot by e.g. this Spitfire.
This is post June 6th marking on the spitfire. 4 germans against 1 allied over the channel. Do you realize how remotely unlikely that is.
Those 109s was AIs :D
take your "level of experience" off "easy" or "don't hurt me" and see how you would do. Your tactics are suicidal down low. No way a spit can win against 4 109's. Other than that, love your channel.
Yeah, the fact that he was flying straight and level while these 109s fired their cannons wildly past him really shows what skill level the ai were. Try this against humans and you'd be dead in 2 seconds.
Poles had their day, then the soviets showed up.....
So this is Spitfire # 3 ( 3rd build )
109s were only there to protect bombers , why are there no bombers in this vid ?
Actually by the time block 3 were built Battle of Britian was over .
Very unrealistic vid .
Ahhhhhhhhhhh(copyright) :(
Disgraceful distorted sound...
FFS it's BF-109! Manufacturer designation by Bayerische Flugzeugwerke
Allies designates those planes as "ME" after it's Designer and Manufacturer Wilhelm Emil "Willy" Messerschmidtt so both are correct but I don't think it's necessary to correct it as like I said it's OK to designate them as ME-109 as the Allied designation
Excellent reproduction, but both the scenario (lone Spitfire on patrol) and outcome (4:0 kill ratio against Me 109's) are highly unrealistic!
Not so unrealistic, one lone Spitfire pilot shot down 4 and damaged a 5th Fw 190, then shot down another and damaged another Luftwaffe aircraft in a short time.