Could YOU Survive a Dogfight During the Battle of Britain?

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  • Can you survive this incredible dogfight with the legendary 303 Squadron during the middle of the Battle of Britain? You decide.
    Hope you guys enjoyed this third episode of my “Can You Survive” Series. This one was important to me, as I really enjoy studying the Battle of Britain. I based the characters and story of this video on real members of 303 squadron, and an actual day of combat that they went through. The eventual outcomes of the characters in this video are as follows: Witold Lokuciewski (You) - Survived the war with 8 confirmed kills and 4 probable. Passed away in 1990, aged 73. Waclaw Lapkowski - Was actually shot down on this mission in September 5th 1940, after downing a Ju-88. Would be shot down by a 109 a year later in July of 1941 and killed in action at the age of 27. Ludwik Paszkiewicz - Scored 6 confirmed kills in the war. Was hit by a 109 three weeks after this mission on September 27th 1940. He would be killed in action as he tried to crash land his Hurricane.
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  • @TJ3
    @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Hope you guys enjoyed this third episode of my “Can You Survive” Series. This one was important to me, as I really enjoy studying the Battle of Britain. I based the characters and story of this video on real members of 303 Squadron, and an actual day of combat that they went through (Sept. 5 1940). The eventual outcomes of the characters in this video are as follows: Witold Lokuciewski (You) - Survived the war with 8 confirmed kills and 4 probable. Passed away in 1990, aged 73. Waclaw Lapkowski - Was actually shot down, but bailed out on this mission on September 5th 1940, after downing a Ju-88. Would be shot down by a Bf-109 a year later in July of 1941 and killed in action at the age of 27. Ludwik Paszkiewicz - Scored 6 confirmed kills in the war. Was hit by a 109 three weeks after this mission on September 27th 1940. He would be killed in action as he tried to crash land his Hurricane.

    • @riphopfer5816
      @riphopfer5816 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love these, mate. I love fewer things more than playing thought experiments, and I’m quite good at these.

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@riphopfer5816 Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @riphopfer5816
      @riphopfer5816 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TJ3 Ironically, after boasting about how well I typically handle miself in a (virtual) dogfight, I buggered this one up well bad. I have a soft spot for mi wingmen, and I wanted to check for a chute after that 109 took out Waclaw’s aeroplane. Good fun, and educational, nevertheless! VERY well-made!
      Moreover, the research went into this, and the details of the fight, were impressive. I thought having to identify the enemy aircraft was a stellar moment. That were bloody clever and an oft-overlooked but super-vital part of air combat in the pre-digital age. We take for granted, these days, that many 4th- and 5th-Gen aircraft can identify aircraft and even MISSILE-types via radar.

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@riphopfer5816 thanks! This one was certainly more difficult than the other ones!

    • @beachcomber1able
      @beachcomber1able ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate the way you pronounce "Luftwaffe" ,TJ 😟

  • @tyleringle268
    @tyleringle268 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Always remember the Dicta Boelcke rule 1 always try to place yourself above and behind your enemy if possible.
    Rule 2 try to place yourself between the sun and your enemy to conceal your position.
    Rule 3 do not fire until you are within range of your target always fire in short bursts to save ammo.
    Rule 4 Always try to catch your enemy off guard attack when he least expects it.
    Rule 5 Never try to run away if you are attacked. Always turn into your attackers put them on the defense.
    Rule 6 Always keep your eyes on your opponents do not fall for tricks always follow your attacker down until you see him crash.
    Rule 7 When fighting together as a unit all pilots attack different targets. Always coordinate the attack with fellow pilots before attacking your enemy.

    • @rbgerald2469
      @rbgerald2469 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Also keep in mind the 10 Rules For Air Fighting made by Group Captain Adolph Gysbert 'Sailor' Malan, DSO & Bar, DFC & Bar. (He fought in the Battle Of Britain):
      1. Wait until you see the whites of his eyes. Fire short bursts of one to two seconds only when your sights are definitely "ON".
      2. Whilst shooting think of nothing else, brace the whole of your body: have both hands on the stick: concentrate on your ring sight.
      3. Always keep a sharp lookout. "Keep your finger out".
      4. Height gives you the initiative.
      5. Always turn and face the attack.
      6. Make your decisions promptly. It is better to act quickly even though your tactics are not the best.
      7. Never fly straight and level for more than 30 seconds in the combat area.
      8. When diving to attack always leave a proportion of your formation above to act as a top guard.
      9. Initiative, Aggression, Air Discipline, and Teamwork are words that Mean something in Air Fighting.
      10. Go in quickly - Punch hard - Get out!

    • @tyleringle268
      @tyleringle268 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rbgerald2469 This information is basically the same thing I shared.

    • @rbgerald2469
      @rbgerald2469 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@tyleringle268 ..Yep. Two different pilots from different eras, but the rules stay the same.

    • @brettharrison2237
      @brettharrison2237 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beware the Hun in the sun.

    • @ncscoobysnack
      @ncscoobysnack ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He died breaking rule 7

  • @neptunesorbit2063
    @neptunesorbit2063 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    my great grandad escaped poland in ww2 (he did get sent to siberia before he could get to england and had to escape from there) and he joined the raf and they wanted him to be a pilot but he decided to be an engineer instead and then worked for avro after the war (specifically on the vulcan bomber). He was a great guy and the opening reminded me of him

    • @rg20322
      @rg20322 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome!!

  • @roberts1938
    @roberts1938 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thank you especially for this Polish episode in your films.
    The Battle of England was a deadly battle, where a new tactic of air combat was created and the formation changed to the one used by the Poles - the finger formation. I think the formation change was also due to the fact that there would be as few situations of attacks on the enemy as possible without the protection of the winger. This dilemma of fighting or defending a downed Hurricane is very instructive.
    During the fight everything happened so quickly that the pilots did not have time to analyze. That is why they acted instinctively and in accordance with training, which is why Polish pilots achieved very good results, leading the squadrons with the highest number of kills.
    Individual Polish pilots were also on internships in British squadrons as volunteers. For example Głowacki - an ace in one day who shot down 5 planes in one day.
    Your video is very innovative and engaging for the viewer. I like this way of narration very much.
    Greetings from Poland.

  • @jeffreycordle6084
    @jeffreycordle6084 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Since I am not a pilot I'd imagine surviving the air battle would be immaterial. I'd have been lucky to survive the take off. And if I didn't just end up dive bombing the ground trying to not get shot down. Chances are I'd probably not survive the landing. Especially considering that a fighter plane is hard to control while actually being taught 🤔

    • @davidelliott5843
      @davidelliott5843 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I don't have the eyesight, so my survival (as a pilot) is 100% as I'd never get chance to fly.

    • @louisavondart9178
      @louisavondart9178 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Buy the game and the kit you need and find out? IL2 Sturmovik and all it's versions is the best combat flight sim out there. You'll soon learn...

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd have been a multiple Ace as I tend to do well at everything I do...

    • @theonlymadmac4771
      @theonlymadmac4771 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BuzzLOLOL If genetics play I role, so would I, as my grandfather was a double ace in WW I, survived the war being on the frontline apart from flight school 1914-18

    • @rinzler9775
      @rinzler9775 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dont worry - they wpuld give you one or two weeks training before sending you into battle.

  • @dakosaurusrex9850
    @dakosaurusrex9850 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Love the can you survive series. Maybe you could do one on tank combat next. Custom ground maps could provide a pretty good video

    • @spygineer1076
      @spygineer1076 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      oh yeah that's cool af

    • @dahan419
      @dahan419 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      From a German tank crew perspective

    • @titantanic7255
      @titantanic7255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yessss! I need that! I’m reading a book by Otto Karius (a German tiger tank commander) he fought in the eastern front, maybe cause his book is pretty detailed you could use it for a tank survive combat, the book is called tiger in the mud

    • @genarogarza376
      @genarogarza376 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or a U-Boat vs. destroyer scenario

  • @speedfinder1
    @speedfinder1 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Could I mention, a lot, if not most of the Polish airmen who flew in this conflict, were already battle hardened airmen from early WW2 conflicts in late 1939. Some of them, were the very best pilots anywhere in Europe at the time. They had seen action in their own air force prior to the fall of Poland. The Polish air-force was underequipped during the commencement of the war. They made their experience count to deadly effect with better equipment in the Battle of Britain. We all owe these men a huge debt for their service and sacrifice.

    • @bokane1963
      @bokane1963 ปีที่แล้ว

      British airmen commented that they were some of the most fearless pilots we had. When they'd order them to hold back they'd often ignore the orders due to their hatred of what the Germans had done to their homeland. Quote right too

    • @JMCV07
      @JMCV07 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is afilm about this!!!

  • @enigmawyoming5201
    @enigmawyoming5201 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I really like these “will you survive” plots. Unique, and of all things… interactive to some extent! Thanks!

  • @paulmazan4909
    @paulmazan4909 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Very good although Checking 6 after the other Hurricane was shot down would have made the decision easier.

  • @densalbeach1
    @densalbeach1 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I had the pleasure of meeting Geoffrey Wellum, avgreat man who flew Spitfires in the Battle of Britain. He wrote a book 'First Light' a great read. If this video captured your imagination I stongly recommend you get a copy of his book and tell his and Fighter Commands story to future generations. We, the many owe so much to them, the few!

    • @jonathansteadman7935
      @jonathansteadman7935 ปีที่แล้ว

      Assume you've seen the docudrama based on his book . Think it was BBC about six years ago.

    • @densalbeach1
      @densalbeach1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I did, quite a good adaptation of the book.

    • @jackkruese4258
      @jackkruese4258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes read it, he’s sadly no longer with us. It’s such a pity that they’re nearly all gone now.

  • @jimc6687
    @jimc6687 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I'd be curious to see such an analysis on an exciting WW I aerial battle, TJ. I recall those first Atari or whatever rudimentary games we had as kids with biplanes and triplanes.........around the same era with slow running ping pong. So, it would be cool to see a state-of-the-art computer graphic depiction similar to this quality applied to 90-110 mph warplanes of 105 years ago!! Jim C.

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'd enjoy this too! Haha not sure if my viewers will but I think it would be super cool

    • @louisavondart9178
      @louisavondart9178 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh hell yes. The WW1 version is brilliant. You can even use your pistol to shoot at your enemy ! Headshots happen.

    • @el_rolfo
      @el_rolfo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd love to see WWI aerial battles, since my great grandfather was a pilot who fought for the Kingdom of Italy. Eventualy he was shot down but survived, and was knighted for his actions in battle.

    • @rylandw6130
      @rylandw6130 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@el_rolfo That is an interesting story! What's his name?

  • @janiceduke1205
    @janiceduke1205 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    "Repeat Please."
    Squadron Leader Edwards : Stop that Polish chatter and steer two, three, zero.
    Polish R.A.F. pilot : [Peals off to engage the Germans] Repeat please.
    Squadron Leader Edwards : I say again, two, three, zero.
    2nd Polish pilot : [Peals off to engage the Germans] Repeat please.
    Air Vice Marshal Keith Park : For crying out loud, two, three, zero.
    3rd Polish pilot : [Peals off to engage the Germans] Repeat please.
    4th Polish pilot : [Peals off to engage the Germans] Repeat please.
    5th Polish pilot : [Peals off to engage the Germans] Repeat please.
    Squadron Leader Edwards : Now just shut up the lot of you. And follow me unless you're blind as well as... Oh
    [Sees that all the Polish pilots have left to fight the Germans] . Squadron Leader Edwards : God's truth!

    • @philiphumphrey1548
      @philiphumphrey1548 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great movie moment.

    • @tty044
      @tty044 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed - great moment in movie but it is safe to assume it was far from truth. It was shown like they were bunch of jockers. Polish pilots were very disciplined (after training by excellent instructor Leopold Pamuła) as they knew obeying orders were crucial for their survival. It was one pilot - Ludwik Paszkiewicz who "scout" the scene of battle between one Hurricane and two Bf 110 and smoked one. Before that he informed his leader Ronald Kellet about spotted enemy but there was no answer.

    • @johanmetreus1268
      @johanmetreus1268 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tty044 Very disciplined indeed, but also never passing a fight unless there was a larger target already planned and waiting. Remember the destroyer in the hunt for Bismarck? That's Polish to you.

    • @tty044
      @tty044 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@johanmetreus1268 Yes - it was ORP Piorun (G65) and her captain Pławski ordered to signal Bismarck "I am a Pole" and "Three salvoes in honour of Poland" before opening fire LOL

    • @johanmetreus1268
      @johanmetreus1268 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tty044 Slava Polska! :)

  • @derweibhai
    @derweibhai ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LOVE these, thanks TJ. Keep up the good work.

  • @jiffycomer3673
    @jiffycomer3673 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m going to go with the humble approach. I got the first two right but then failed up until the last one I got right. In the real world , I can’t even imagine the bravery it took to do what these young men did. I don’t know if I’d have it in the same situation or not. Thanks to these young men and their sacrifice I’ve never had to find out. God bless them all

  • @BD-yl5mh
    @BD-yl5mh ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I made all the right preparations for the attack but chose to leave my friend to regain altitude, in a way guessing that this video would at some point ask me to put emotion aside, but applying that at the wrong moment. If, in the real situation instinct had forced me to follow my friend, then again, I made the right decision to quickly turn my attention back to the fight and reassess

  • @buckrowe9196
    @buckrowe9196 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely loved this, Please do more! I'm rather pleased to say that I got all of the questions correct. That's probably because I wrote my History thesis paper in college on World War II Air Combat (specifically North Africa and Malta). Looking forward to the next one!

  • @alwayssmiley01
    @alwayssmiley01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving these uploads
    Thaaaaaaaankyou 😁🤙

  • @togustogusinski9346
    @togustogusinski9346 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Because we do not beg for freedom we fight for it"
    Commander No 303 Fighter Squadron Col. Witold Urbanowicz

  • @craighansen7594
    @craighansen7594 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a really interesting series. I learned that studying those identification were crucial.

  • @parsananmon
    @parsananmon ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really love this series. Keep it going!

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @malachifreeman4683
    @malachifreeman4683 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, these keep getting better and better. More please! These are awesome.

  • @pixelbogpixxelbog2090
    @pixelbogpixxelbog2090 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg i just discovered your channel and I absolutely love it. Especially these type of videos :)

  • @gorry123
    @gorry123 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was awesome! Great work!

  • @rusty-bloodhook8354
    @rusty-bloodhook8354 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nailed it! What a fun and educational video for the everyone to enjoy; cracking job!

  • @gbw28
    @gbw28 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well put together video, love the humour at the end of it.

  • @tedh7543
    @tedh7543 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was fun. Got a few of them right but I probably would have ended up dead or parachuting into the ocean praying for rescue. The last decision was perfect, there certainly was no wrong answer.

  • @artawhirler
    @artawhirler ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video with beautiful graphics! Thanks!

  • @pedrojuliancereceda8301
    @pedrojuliancereceda8301 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice recreation! Now we, re the main characters of these dog fights! Awesome!

  • @JIKwood
    @JIKwood ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the little historical details you add to this. Makes it not just fun but educational.

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @OzzyMandias
    @OzzyMandias ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Top Hole Matey...very enjoyable content you are creating, keep it up Old Boy!

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @panzerivausfg4062
    @panzerivausfg4062 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm not sure how i managed to pick the correct options for a third time in a row...
    It's pretty impressive for me!
    You should continue making these, they're verry enjoyable and informative !!

  • @itsmewafflecat5052
    @itsmewafflecat5052 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    these videos are brilliant!! keep them up!

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! Will do!

  • @28pbtkh23
    @28pbtkh23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved the video! Very educational. The final question was the most difficult!!!

  • @davidcox4544
    @davidcox4544 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!!! These are awesome!!! So….I would have made it until my friend got shot down as I wanted revenge on his attacker…you are right about emotions taking over. I like the touch of the position of the sun. I caught that and love that detail! Keep ‘em coming my friend! Best videos on TH-cam!

  • @oneshotme
    @oneshotme ปีที่แล้ว

    Got them all right and almost become an ace this day LOL
    Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

  • @grizzle273463
    @grizzle273463 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and very cleverly constructed.

  • @RookVR_
    @RookVR_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Another amazing vid! Keep it up! (Also I love how you use games to simulate it’s very smart!

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @ilovesupras60
    @ilovesupras60 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this type of videos! Please make more!!

  • @ziyadessoufi2052
    @ziyadessoufi2052 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see this type of videos back

  • @robertpalma7946
    @robertpalma7946 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this format. Thanks

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoy it!

  • @gamingdevil1236
    @gamingdevil1236 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got all the choices right, great video as always!

  • @unhappyad7886
    @unhappyad7886 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed it, hope to see more of this in the future. And i make all correct choices, love for aviation paid off :D

  • @CatchDude
    @CatchDude ปีที่แล้ว

    These plot/best-choice video's are dope!

  • @Gwynfyd67
    @Gwynfyd67 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very very good, I really was in, full stress and adrenalin, and happily took the rignt decisions. I love your survival videos !

  • @DeclanHiggins__
    @DeclanHiggins__ ปีที่แล้ว

    My first ‘Would you Survive?’ Video and as an avid fighter jet buff (300+ hrs in DCS) and I got all but one right. I underestimated TJ3 and didn’t think he’d be aware of the sun to the rear tactic as well as I didn’t even catch it in the video so chose to flank around. Very thoroughly enjoyed this and am off to binge watch all of the other videos in the series. Please don’t stop 💪🏼💪🏼

  • @ronaldwatson1951
    @ronaldwatson1951 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a excellent idea to be interacting with the game and decision making. Great video and stimulating thoughts.

  • @possumteeth1692
    @possumteeth1692 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice vid man :)

  • @rbgerald2469
    @rbgerald2469 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here are the 10 Rules For Air Fighting made by Group Captain Adolph Gysbert 'Sailor' Malan, DSO & Bar, DFC & Bar. (He fought in the Battle Of Britain):
    1. Wait until you see the whites of his eyes. Fire short bursts of one to two seconds only when your sights are definitely "ON".
    2. Whilst shooting think of nothing else, brace the whole of your body: have both hands on the stick: concentrate on your ring sight.
    3. Always keep a sharp lookout. "Keep your finger out".
    4. Height gives you the initiative.
    5. Always turn and face the attack.
    6. Make your decisions promptly. It is better to act quickly even though your tactics are not the best.
    7. Never fly straight and level for more than 30 seconds in the combat area.
    8. When diving to attack always leave a proportion of your formation above to act as a top guard.
    9. Initiative, Aggression, Air Discipline, and Teamwork are words that Mean something in Air Fighting.
    10. Go in quickly - Punch hard - Get out!

    • @hans-1940
      @hans-1940 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The guy had a ridiculous 27 kills. It's like letting an illiterate teach you to read.

  • @esbenk.d.jensen9345
    @esbenk.d.jensen9345 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice with this type of narrative ! I like it

  • @ferid7730
    @ferid7730 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love this series keep em coming, could you do maybe a pacific campaign one or perhaps a WW1 themed dogfight?

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On my to do list!

    • @_R-R
      @_R-R ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TJ3
      Or Korea and Vietnam.

  • @ND-cf5xy
    @ND-cf5xy ปีที่แล้ว

    Great narration!

  • @Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu
    @Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these types of episodes.

  • @alexnovak3319
    @alexnovak3319 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just simply L O V E these kind of videos in which you decide your faith! although I would not go onto the bombers from the front, since i could get a better and more accurate shot on the 88s. I would just dive on their 6, releasing a 3-4 second burst and regain altitude with the energy I have gained to make a second pass...but still a cool video I answered all of the other questions correctly so I guess im not that bad of a pilot..

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you had fun!

  • @charlessmith9903
    @charlessmith9903 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would have died. The last option I wanted to circle around my friend until his chute opened. The only thing I would have realistically done was a combo of the right anwser and circling around. I would have checked 6 and circled around. Which case I probably would have seen the 109 and skidded to throw off his aim.

    • @riphopfer5816
      @riphopfer5816 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was my idea, too, but judging by the damage our plane took, we were lucky to get out of it alive even if we DIDN’T stick around. So, yeah… based on my decision, I was a cloud of aluminium and human bits fluttering slowly toward the Canal.

  • @krisztianmujzer4161
    @krisztianmujzer4161 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favourite type of videos from you

  • @johnbaranowski6079
    @johnbaranowski6079 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am totally turning this into an activity for my classroom. I'm hoping you do more of these, especially a World War I video

  • @victorfinberg8595
    @victorfinberg8595 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:00 German aircraft approaching from the west? seems unlikely.
    11:15 There is another reason to help Waclaw. You are a military unit, not a bunch of individual warriors. Tactics of the group always is better than the tactics of the individuals.
    great video

    • @larsrons7937
      @larsrons7937 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, _"approaching from the west,"_ I noticed that too. It could be a bombing run on Liverpool incoming from the sea side, but I don't find it very likely at this stage of the war because the German single engine fighters had a limited range, I don't believe they could fly that far and take such a detour. So they would come from the south or east.
      You are absolutely right about Waclaw, the group is the most important.

    • @victorfinberg8595
      @victorfinberg8595 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@larsrons7937 some attacks also came from Norway. But they couldn't bring any decent fighter escort

    • @larsrons7937
      @larsrons7937 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@victorfinberg8595 True. And from Norway planes came from the east, not west.
      But the video was wrong about the directions. At 6:46 we see the *sun* _NOT_ "behind" as stated but straight to the right at 3 o'clock. The germans "came from the west" at 11 o'clock to the Hurricanes thus heading WNW. But that would put the sun in a NNE position which is impossible; in England the sun can't be to the north. So our Hurricane's compass is broken, and the directions from -ground control- the narrator is wrong.

    • @victorfinberg8595
      @victorfinberg8595 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@larsrons7937 so we agree: there are a couple errors in the narration.
      still, the video is generally good.

  • @victory7999
    @victory7999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I disagree with immediately rushing over to help the friend, I would look around first to see where enemy fighters are first and only help if it won't lead to death.

  • @turtle2720
    @turtle2720 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I failed the third question (diving to help my friend). I'd regain altitude, check my six, and search for another bomber... because shooting down bombers were my orders, I would most likely be too late to save my friend, losing more altitude would put me in a precarious position if I was chased by a Bf109, etc.
    ... also last question: Classy gal. Because classy women goes great with gentlemen Polish pilots :)
    I recently found your channel and this was a great video! Thanks, TJ3, and hope you have a fantastic weekend!

    • @hphp31416
      @hphp31416 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also i though as 109s mission was to protect the bombers they would abandon chasing hurricane to escort them

  • @stonehobson2487
    @stonehobson2487 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a lot of fun to watch. (Given the situation it's based on.) Thanks

  • @Silkstep
    @Silkstep ปีที่แล้ว

    I did well until I took a round to the torso. I thoroughly enjoyed that that ride. Good job putting us in the cockpit.

  • @Historybuffm8
    @Historybuffm8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos. Really drives home what these airmen probably had to do

  • @kepler186f4
    @kepler186f4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always enjoyed your videos, but I've just found "Can You Survive?"... which I really enjoy. I think I'll watch a few more.... after a mission or two BoB Blitz.

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

    • @kepler186f4
      @kepler186f4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TJ3 I ended up doing a few missions in Rise of Flight.
      I periodically search your channel for interesting videos, of which there are many, but, I wonder... are you ever going to do one on what become known as "The April Raids", Ceylon, 1942?

  • @AnimarchyHistory
    @AnimarchyHistory ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Proper move in the tail chase would have been to engage the rear bandit forcing him to break off his attack. Allowing you to maintain pursuit on the lead bandit and clear your wingman's tail.

    • @barbararice6650
      @barbararice6650 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okay ace 😁

    • @AnimarchyHistory
      @AnimarchyHistory ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barbararice6650studied dogfighting since age three. Should know enough by now.

    • @barbararice6650
      @barbararice6650 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AnimarchyHistory
      I bet you have, the job of a wing and squadron commander is to actually get their pilots to engage the enemy otherwise they won't 👈😑

  • @roosterboy2113
    @roosterboy2113 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow these videos are so cool

  • @malikgrind1808
    @malikgrind1808 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video sir
    😁

  • @JUNKERS488
    @JUNKERS488 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi TJ, Great video they Just keep getting better. Can't wait to see what you have coming next. Great story telling too. Been really busy the last few weeks hopefully, I am going to be able to finally fly IL-2's new ME410. I had the HPH models 1/32 ME410 kit for years now but haven't found the time to put her together. I was dying to get my hands on this HPH kit then when I got it I can't find the time for it. I Built HPH's 1/32 FW-189 kit a few years back and it was an amazing kit. Their kits are expensive but worth every cent in my book. I got hooked on IL-2 and enjoy flying them instead of building them Now a days. Anyway, Thanks for all your hard work. I'm hoping I will be able to afford to step up my Patreon a level some time soon. I wish I could do more to help. Hopefully, you will hit the 100 thousand Subscribers soon. Please Keep 'em Flying.

  • @ScreamingSkullSaloon
    @ScreamingSkullSaloon ปีที่แล้ว

    I am surprised a bit but I actually made all of the right decisions. I really enjoyed this video! Keep them coming!

  • @raphaelrae8186
    @raphaelrae8186 ปีที่แล้ว

    These choice decision videos are sensible and beautiful. You should do as many of them as you can.

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @redjellyarmy3097
    @redjellyarmy3097 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these

  • @vaerenbergh
    @vaerenbergh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    had everything right except aircraft recon, i taught i saw twin stabalizer fins, but i would have done the same aproach anyway. al the other answers i got correct :) i fly alot of sim battles in WT mostly rank III germany or Japan, i fly for the AOD squadron C devision and post my best kill captures on YT. hopefully i see you there TJ3 History :) good vid as always :)

    • @larsrons7937
      @larsrons7937 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I couldn't see the type of stabilizer fins but in the short moment I managed to count 17 twin engine planes (so 20 rather than 15) and they lokked much larger in comparison to the small Me-109's than Me-110's would have done. So... Medium bombers with Me-109's as fighter escort.

  • @bluedragon1540
    @bluedragon1540 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I am yet to make a wrong choice in your series! (Probably because I play too much war thunder)

  • @haakonsteinsvaag
    @haakonsteinsvaag ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I would have done ok, I chose most of the suggested answers. I did choose to circle around instead of attacking head on. It would have given me more time to make an informed decision on how best to attack and divide targets to the flight, like you and you go for the escorts, the rest go for the bombers, while still keeping the height advantage if I needed to order an immediate attack, like escorts starting to climb. Great video.

  • @heanvisalseyhak9487
    @heanvisalseyhak9487 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another amazing video and story can you do another one of this “ you decide” but in the Axis pov

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว

      On my to do list!

  • @infoscholar5221
    @infoscholar5221 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great birthday present! More, please.

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy birthday!

  • @rinzler9775
    @rinzler9775 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once the bullets start flying, you might find piloting skills you thought you never had.

  • @ieatoutoften872
    @ieatoutoften872 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Decades after the war, I watched an interview of R.A.F. fighter pilot Bob Doe. He described how his squadron would take off like a gaggle of geese, rather than in a tight formation. Doe entered combat in the days when the precise flying V formation was being disregarded because the replacement pilots just weren't skilled enough to do it.
    Hastily trained, Doe could hardly land his airplane AFTER being sent to combat. In fact, he broke his nose on the windshield / windscreen attempting to land AFTER a dog fight in the late summer of 1940. And yet he was soon an Ace among Aces.
    Against enemy pilots with 5 years experience from the Spain's Civil War in 1935, I believe Doe was called by God to save the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. He answered the call. He might not have been a religious man. I believe he was a spiritual man whose convictions allowed him to overcome the reality of the daunting odds against him. I believe he listened to the Holy Ghost. He was not unique in the multinational coalition that was the R.A.F. in the summer and autumn of 1940.
    Sincerely,
    Commenting from one of the 13 colonies / provinces (Virginia), and born in a former territory of the United States of Mexico.

  • @crimsontiger6
    @crimsontiger6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff

  • @Riccardo_Silva
    @Riccardo_Silva ปีที่แล้ว

    Natalia, Amelia or Cecilia? Well...yes!!! Nice fun video TJ3, i scored a 100%! (Although i'm bound to choose that naughty Natalia, after all!).👍🏻👍🏽👍🏻

  • @yesyess5168
    @yesyess5168 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, awesome video! Could you make it a pick-your-own-adventure style for tank combat?

  • @WheelchairWilly
    @WheelchairWilly ปีที่แล้ว +2

    More than likely there was a "top cover" of Bf.109's above the main formation hidden by the sun. Ready to pounce on any unsuspecting Hurricane pilot who had been separated from his squadron during the initial attack. Ever heard the phrase, "Watch for the Hun in the sun."? Thus they more than likely would have picked off any lone RAF fighters.

  • @ricktoffer01
    @ricktoffer01 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have played A Halker Hurrican pilot and a Bf109E pilot, also been a Ju-88, and a He-111 in flight simulators. The Hurrican was one of my favorite WW2 planes, I liked the FW-190D. I liked the P-47 Thunderbolt and P-38 Lighting.

  • @01ZO6TT
    @01ZO6TT ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like these can you survive videos. Unfortunately, I chose option B to attack from behind. Not thinking that the sun was behind me. I then went to save my friend but after, again chose B to make sure he was alright. I guess I got shot down. Please keep these coming, they are really enjoyable.

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  ปีที่แล้ว

      Will do!

  • @That70sGuitarist
    @That70sGuitarist ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Immediately after shooting one of the pursuing Huns off my buddy's tail, I'd have pulled a max-rate right break to clear my own tail.
    The Hun who was trying to saddle up and gun me wouldn't have stood a chance, for two simple reasons; 1) the Hurricane could easily out-turn the 109 at lower altitudes, especially since the 109 doesn't turn nearly as well to the right; 2) most pilots instinctively break left when on the defensive, so the Hun would have been setting up for a left high yoyo (cutting over and inside the top of my anticipated left break) to maintain position above and behind me. Within the next 20-30 seconds, I'd have tallied my second fighter for the day, then called my scattered flight to form up and head for home. I'd also keep an eye peeled for a friendly parachute, and call air-sea rescue with his approximate location if I spotted him. "Easy peasy, lemon squeezy."

    • @jerryjeromehawkins1712
      @jerryjeromehawkins1712 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like it. I like it!!
      Careful though Tommy. The Hun in his Messy can out climb and out dive you.
      But of course... as the war progressed the Hurricane was outclassed by the later variants of the 109... and your Hurricane had to take a backseat to the Spitfire. Then again... the 109s big brother the Fw190 had something to say about that!!
      Just having some fun my friend.
      My favorite btw??
      the Bristol Beaufighter!!!
      To go back in time?? There's a beauty I'd love to pilot!!!
      🇬🇧 🍻 🇺🇸

    • @That70sGuitarist
      @That70sGuitarist ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jerryjeromehawkins1712 I'm not a "Tommy," I'm a mad Mickey. That's a whole different animal altogether!🤣
      Speaking from experience (1,600+ hours in Hurricanes Mk I's/3,000+ hours in Spit I's, II's and LF IX-c's in CFS3 with the ETO 1.4 massive expansion kit) at lower altitudes the 109 E3/E4 is at a serious disadvantage against the Hurricane. Below 5,000 feet, the Hurricane has superior turn, climb and acceleration over the E3/4.
      Yes, as the war progressed, the Hurri Mk II was increasingly relegated to the ground attack role, at which it excelled, but in 1940, not even the Spitfire I/II could out-turn it.
      A case in point, from the Luftwaffe's point of view; Emil drivers were absolutely convinced that their aircraft was superior to the Spitfire...BUT...their leaders repeatedly warned them to avoid getting involved in a turning fight against the Hurricane, because they'd lose. German pilots were strongly cautioned to only use boom and zoom attacks on Hurricanes, because it had a tighter turn radius than anything else in theatre at the time.
      If an Emil driver disregarded these repeated warnings, and started turning against an alerted Hurricane, he had maybe 15 or 20 seconds to either make the kill or ditch out and dive away. If he hung in any longer, either the Hurricane or one of his squadron mates was bound to get him.
      As a WWI German ace once said, "Your opponent may be a complete and utter swine, but his mates would much rather see you dead than him. 15, 20 seconds, then get out!"😉

  • @andrewyang2449
    @andrewyang2449 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a "veteran" war thunder player, I fairly easily answered all the question right... BUT THE LAST QUESTION IS JUST TOO DIFFICULT! Classy Cecilia's got her charms, Angelic Amelia is just too adorable to refuse, and Naughty Natalie is never a bad choice.
    In all seriousness, the only reason I knew the points to how to stay alive was due to learning from the countless times I had died in game. But there are no respawns in real life. It makes me really appreciate just how dangerous and deadly the business of war is in comparison to how easily young lives can be cut short.

  • @aiosquadron
    @aiosquadron ปีที่แล้ว

    No fly by wire computers... No radar... No guided missiles... No vertical fights...
    Yea. I'm dead.

  • @Meuchelmorderisch
    @Meuchelmorderisch ปีที่แล้ว

    I only missed one, not critical, i'm amazed on how much you can learn from games, i think i would've survive it

  • @Eboreg2
    @Eboreg2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surviving the battle would be the easy part.
    Surviving the landing... that's a WHOLE different story!

  • @bobsakamanos4469
    @bobsakamanos4469 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Probably not able to survive in a Hurricane. It was a fire trap. Bailing out quickly was the key, and done often due the the ol' Hurri being outdated. Even the great Ginger Lacey was shot down 9 times.

  • @RogueAce93
    @RogueAce93 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's Battle of Britain Season (July 10-Sept.15) & this vid makes an awesome portrayal of a day in that campaign! I chose: C, C, A, B, C & got stuck between Cecilia and Natalia!

  • @ghq113
    @ghq113 ปีที่แล้ว

    100%, good video

  • @hemihead001
    @hemihead001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you mean write to " one " of them ? Hell , write to all of them .

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes it was most enjoyable Classic Dog Fight episode

  • @jesseakers7298
    @jesseakers7298 ปีที่แล้ว

    I couldn't get my instructor to teach me to land.
    After 7 hours of flying and seven landing, I wanted to fly the pattern and learn to land.
    I had bought my own Cessna 150 and wasn't going to wait.
    After he left one day I filled up the tanks and took off.
    I went up to 4000 feet and practices, slow flying with flaps.
    When I came back to the airport (Arlington airport north of Seattle 50 miles) there was a strong cross wind, there was just no way I could land there, so I lined up with the short runway where the wind was better.
    Nice and slow with a long approach I hit a down draft still 40 feet of the ground, the plane dropped so fast that pulling back on the stick I still touched a tire before getting back into the air.
    Now chitting myself I just threw out what I had learned and tried flying above the runway at a speed where I had more control. Not planning to land I just wanted to fly above the runway a few feet up to get a better feel. When I got there everything was going good, so I just pulled the throttle back more, then more keeping the plane just above the ground, back on the stick, back more.
    Maybe I felt the tires touch but was so focused on keeping the plane lined I didn't realize I was down.
    A little luck I think.
    The next day was nice and I must have done 50 touch and goes.
    It was only two weeks and my instructor cut me loose for my first solo. Lol
    I would have loved to fly a fighter in ww2.
    In my next life I'm requesting to be born in 1921. I believe that if you keep love in your life that you will have better options next time around.
    Peace

  • @LaHayeSaint
    @LaHayeSaint ปีที่แล้ว

    You had me stumped on the last one. I just couldn't make up my mind! Does that mean I've failed my pilot training?

  • @glennpeters4462
    @glennpeters4462 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was a song, I think in the sixties, with the lyric:
    If you're flying to London today,
    Fly Lufthansa, they know the way.😄

  • @larsrons7937
    @larsrons7937 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting video and story, amusing yet educative and deadly serious had it been IRL. I chose to stay alert to the combat all the time and so survived the engagement, but as for the initial attack angle I had to chose a 4th option as the 3 options we were given wouldn't work.
    OK, approx. 30 German aircraft "approaching from the W" (so they're heading E). Strange path unless coming from Brest towards southern Ireland then turning east. So we must be in Cornwall (that is, if they truly come from the west). From W Germans heading E when we spot them in our 11 o'clock means we are heading WNW (towards southern tip of Ireland if in Cornwall). 6:40 _NO_ sun "behind" us (from our 4 to 8 o'clock). 6:46 we see the sun in our 3 o'clock exactly to our right, so the *sun is in NNE position* (or slightly east of due north). This position of the sun is completely *impossible* (as we are not in a rocket to the moon). We don't yet know at which time of the day it is (in real life we'd probably know, if not too tired), but now we _DO_ know that *our compass is broken* and the *direction of the German approach is also wrong* (the fault being either with the radars or ground control, but wrong it is; did they smoke too much of that "Sherlock Holmes tobacco"?). So our information is broken and we are on our own, with the sun in our 3 c'clock and the Germans in our 11 o'clock (but the Germans are moving, I'll get back to that). If we turn now and attack them head on the sun will shift to our 4 o'clock (and we'll be on the German's 1 o'clock to them). So we'll want to wait, fly a little further until we can turn to have the sun in our 6 o'clock and thus "hide in the sun" as we have the Germans in our 1 o'clock (not in our 11 o'clock as shown at the 7:03 mark) as we approach them from their 11 o'clock. So not wait for long, but wait enough for the sun to be in right behind us. This would be a tricky maneuver as we would have to turn hard to the right to get past the Germans while staying well ahead of them (moving towards us) and then go hard around shifting to the opposite direction, so it would probably involve half a loop to get in the right position for attacking "out of the sun". I hope my comrades learned how to fly so they could follow me. Now, as the Germans have moved forward while we maneauvered into position, we would probably engage them from their side, more like their 2 to 3 o'clock rather than their 1 o'clock, still with them in our 1 o'clock so they would move forward into our 12 o'clock as we got closer. Our window for firing would be very short, not the 5 seconds mentioned, on the other hand it would be difficult for their fighters to have time to turn against us or for the bombers to run away.

  • @OldGeezer55
    @OldGeezer55 ปีที่แล้ว

    I lived. Altitude is your friend. I've always heard that. Attack out of the sun. I've always heard that. I like the detail of firing at 5 second burst. Now do this. Sit there and count 5 seconds. That's a long time when you're in a situation. It's hard to determine some of this without knowing the plane better, but the same rules apply for basic combat. Some planes just do them better!

  • @Otokichi786
    @Otokichi786 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As I recall, RAF Squadron 303 is/was legendary for taking out Bf-109s, flying the "inferior" Hawker Hurricane. Proof that the amount of fight in the dog makes the difference.;)

    • @barbararice6650
      @barbararice6650 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes they were true bullshiters much appreciated by the ministry of propoganda who relayed their claims like lambs to the American press 👈😁

  • @roo72
    @roo72 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In reality, as a 303 pilot, you were an experienced pilot already and it's not your first kill of the war, you have already short down German aircraft in Poland and France.

    • @barbararice6650
      @barbararice6650 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Poles didn't shoot down many German machines either in their own or France's air forces 😕

    • @roo72
      @roo72 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barbararice6650 Fact check - Luftwaffe lost almost 300 aircraft in Poland. Check your facts first before you start sharing such nonsense.

    • @barbararice6650
      @barbararice6650 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roo72
      That's just you saying the number 300 😕
      280 German machines were totalled during the Polish campaign due to all reasons from accident to anti aircraft fire and air combat (around forty), I believe the Polish losses were around one hundred percent, that's got to be around two thousand machines of all types 🙄
      If you were a 303 pilot you were a demonstrable loser not up to matching the Germans in either skill or use of technology, while an experienced RAF pilot back from beating the Germans over Dunkirk was worth his weight in gold 👈😑

    • @roo72
      @roo72 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barbararice6650 Wow. You were a loser of the highest scoring squadron of the Battle of Britain. Your trolling is really low.

    • @janiceduke1205
      @janiceduke1205 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roo72 Only the factually ignorant would disagree with you. For the Polish airmen at that time the motto of military of Poland “God, Honour, Fatherland” (just in this order) was not an empty words. And what was the reward? The best one you can get in this world - as it is written in St. Paul’s words at the Polish Air Force Memorial in London: “I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith” 2 Timothy 4:7.