Top 10 Melee Cavalry Units | Total War Warhammer 3
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damn war bear riders at 10 is wild
I appreciate that you made this list. Even if the order you placed them makes you look like a crazy person.
3:39 The reason halberds are better is becouse they, objetively, are better against other cavalries, their one and only target. The non-halberd variant is better against infantry, but as the Empire you already have more than enough tools to delete infantry in the form of artillery, missile infantry and magic, and a way to counter the enemy cavalry from disrrupting your acutally important units is much more useful than a unit that does a mediocre job at what the rest of your army already excels at.
my personal top 10, because i disagree with all of this, using your 1 per race formula
10: skullcrushers. terrible charge and animations but hp and armour make up for it. good luck pulling them out tho
9: crushers (great weapons). quite difficult to justify their upkeep but they will beat any large unit so it becomes a keystone for ogres who struggle with large.
8: great stag knights, S tier charge animations, if squishy
7: chaos knights (tzeentch). loads better than doom knights because tankier and better pull out game. barrier and armour makes them tactically a must have for chaos. loses to most S tier cav tho.
6: demigryph knights (halberds). would be no.10 in a vacuum but its also a keystone for mobility defense for empire. used all the time in singleplayer and multiplayer. healing is required.
5: horned ones. they scale extremely well with single player buffs despite being useless in multiplayer. super speedy super heavy cav is rare.
4: heartseekers. highest skill cap of any cavalry. you can get 10k+ value if you micro them right. getting a full heartseeker surround will send any unit to brazil.
3: blood knights. still needs a buff but stat boosts and healing in singleplayer makes them incredible. reviving entities negates any pull out flaws entirely. once they get AP they will be no.1 cav
2: war bear riders. low model count and 8k hp makes them tankier than almost all other cav. the bear blob is a menace and nothing short of a chosen halberd stack will kill them. bit expensive tho, unless boris uses them.
1: grail knights. the best cav in a cav based roster. great pull out, charge and AP. has acess to healing and perfect vigour. magic attacks and AP counters all chaos large units. high mass from lance formation, speed, AP and anti large means they do everything cavalry is supposed to do. the king of cav.
Most people including me prefer halberd variant of the demigryphs because Empire has more than enough tools to beat infantry (op arty) and regular demis are a bit of an overkill. Halberd ones provide you power necessary to contest flanks against enemy anti-large heavy cav. Regular demis cant get past enemy cav to get into hammer&anvil position and sure aint beating units like blood knights or grail knights
I totally get you but i still disagree. If i play the Empire and the enemy brings cav/a lot of cav i still want to counter that cav with spearmen/halberdiers, guns and artillery and while they're stuck and being shot at my demi-gryphs are destroying their backline, wizards, artillary and then turn to cycle charge their frontline. Who does that best? The lances, not the halberdiers. TW is all about trading units and gaining value, their Cav is probably anti-large too and yours demi halberdiers wont always come out alive or healthy, trading your very expensive units for theirs is not gaining value, its stalemating.
But if the goal is to fight backline, why get the normal ones? The halberds Demi would do more or less the same job, and as a plus they can help you defend your own backline against large units.@@jelmer-hendrikveen2722
Jelmer you have made up a scenario that simply doesn't happen in singlelplayer or multiplayer to justify your decision. The thing about cavalry is they can just choose to not engage anti large infantry. If you go into a game relying on halberd to keep cavalry off your flank you will be outmanouvered and charged into oblivion. Halberd have been essential for empire not because they are the "best cavalry", nothing the empire has is the best. But it's a pick that compensates for empire downsides and will clear out low tier cav better than any other unit in the roster. If you belive that a shield and some better stats can beat that level of anti large that is your opinion, and it will be proven a foolish one in your next multiplayer match
@@spanner5940it does happen in single player. The AI is dumb.
@@jelmer-hendrikveen2722 that's an ideal situation... Often times cav is on the perimeter, gauging when to take the central fight. If you win the perimeter fight, you wil have a massive territorial control for flanking. That is why your cav must beat theirs on its own, or you'll be stuck compensating. It's also why missile cav is useful, because they can soften up melee cav long before the central engagement begins
Look, I'm just going to be honest here, putting Dragon Princes anywhere on this tier list is just idiotic.
There's two detailed reasons for this (I would have listed a third reason that consists of how they don't cause fear or terror or just have immunity to psychology despite supposedly being elite units, but neither Kislev Tsar Guard or Empire Greatswords have any of those despite supposedly being elite infantry), starting off with their resistances. Now physical resistance IS useful early game, but spells and magic attacks eviscerate nearly anything with physical resistance (regular Dwarfs just grumble about how magic is annoying), and fire resistance is arguably the worst resistance in the entire game on account of how it's not going to be seeing any actual value against factions that don't have a lot of fire damage.
The other reason is their lousy damage. As shock cavalry, a dependance on high charge bonus would normally be completely acceptable, but besides martial mastery that's literally all they have. Unlike literally every other unit on this tier list, they don't have armor piercing or an actual anti-unit bonus (think I'm a hypocrite for not attacking Blood Knights or Doom Knights of Tzeentch when neither of those units have armor-piercing? The former actually has anti-large, while the latter has the full benefits of the Mark of Tzeentch, and having magic attacks is typically just as good as having actual armor piercing or an anti-unit bonus!), and all Martial Mastery does is increase their melee attack and defense so long as they're above 25% health.
I agree dragon princes or a actual dragon lol
Dragon prince higher than war bear and no bull centaur greatsweapon is wild
War Bear Riders are insane, one of the best Kislev doomstack especially in Boris's army, Top 3 no matter the criterias you use. I also think Dragon Princes aren't that great, not for their price at least, they just perform like a mid tier cav for some reason. Also, for a lower tier unit, Greenskin Boar riders perform surpisingly well despite their abysmal MA/MD.
I think there was also some questionnable choices in the infantry video (no Chosen, but Bestigors?, no exalted unit..)
I agree about the dragon princes would rather archer chariots forgot what there call or a dragon
War bears can beet most cavalry on this list against cavalry or infantry
They truly are. They also are the most versatile. Despite having a low charge bonus, they can do cycle charging just as good. But they're just not the best of the best in a game where medieval French and Brits unite. It's their selling point after all. It also has the strongest auto resolve in the game
after the roomba comment, I just keep picturing knights going around cleaning up the battlefield once it's fallen quiet like a movie theatre haha
Royal hipogriph knights are one of the best units in the game now if your including doomnights the royal hipo should be on this list also, flying unit which could beer any unit on this list one on one and can take down any monster, desimate infantry, basically there is nothing they carnt do
Top 10 anti-infantry monsters?
What about the Chaos Knights of Slaanesh (Lances)? These guys are some of the most fearsome flanking cavalry in the game.
Uh hello? Bull centaur renders with great weapons anyone?
Bro did the war bears dirty, they are at least top 5
These are great. Have you ever done a top 10 for stalker or concealed units?
For cost efficiency, Nehekhara Horsemen vs infantry and Cold One Knights vs cavalry
Undead is much better than normal moral. Routing is terrible because it's like rampage where you lose control of your unit. On top of that normal units lose the capability to do damage, where as undead can keep pumping out damage until their last moments. This allows undead units to hit much harder than their living counterparts would.
If you have good micro, you undead beats regular moral every single time. Particularly if you have access to healing where you can out heal any damage from crumbling.
Another problem with normal moral is apart from losing control there are circumstances in the game where routing off the battlefield is a guaranteed death sentence for a unit and the army, such as siege battles and fighting after retreating.
The upsides of undead outweigh the downsides and the downsides of undead are are easily mitigated by skill. This is one of the reasons undead factions were so strong in multiplayer.
War Bear Riders should be 1. They clap EVERYTHING
Cant wait for top 10 single entities
Was the bull centar great weapons not a top 10?
ZerkovichLite - I mean this is a compliment because this was pretty enjoyable.
Demigryphs need a size increase, it's sad that they're tiny compared to Maurauder Horsemen.
How are chaos knights unranked?
Bretonnia being number one is the only correct choice. But Skullcrushers, Doom Knights, and Great Stag Knights are amazing cav units that prove their worth in their own unique way.
Disappointed theres no Chaos Knights, any of them are good, they may not be armour piercing but their crazy defense for cavalry lets them stay in combat for awhile. Knights of Slaanesh are the best due to Strider and 5 extra speed.
What are your thoughts on the ripperdactyls? They do good damage and can get to a backline almost instantly, so they seem pretty good to me?
Love your videos continue please
another usefull video
I wanted to ask as i have not been able to find. What are the worst monsters, not monster infantry as there is a ton of them. I see people mentioned some that are bad. Like the new ice wyvern. How can I get to know by myself what could be good for what, wtc?
man khorne also has some great cavalry units
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If I may ask why the hippogryfs knight aren't on this list?
Doesnt charge bonus last for 13 seconds? Meaning immediately pulling them off actually reduces total damage since you can use a couple of those seconds to deal the damage from the charge bonus. Instead of constantly charging which reduces total output due to the re-charge delay. Also leaving them for the full duration would also be useless since the bonus drops off faster after the first second in engagement and up to about half around the 5 second mark. In addition a very fast recharge is also pointless since the bonus does not stack, just refreshes itself.
That's not a raptor that's an eagle on your drink thing, what the hell ?!
Top 10 warehound units next
I am thinking with these top 10 unit videos, about a custom army with only the best units in each video, led by only the best Lord in the game. What do you think of my little idea?
True Dragon Princes are top 10 units. But accurately top 10 worst units.
When you sea the video how demis make no damaged against the Bestigors that is the so sad and at the start with High elfs Dragon cav. against Bleaksword the same, cav even when they rear charge the make nothing but only get damaged. When i play campaign i stay away from most cav.
Also can we have a best shock cav video? 🙏
this tier list feels kind random. If you face your listed cav units against each other the results will be all over the place
I was expecting royal gryphs or tor gaval for top 1. But grail guardian is also fair.
I was scared when I saw that betonia has only one unit on this list but then you said yourself that they could have like 5... Yeah Bretonnia's cav is the best and it really isn't close because of grail vow
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Im just here to read the comments.
me aswell
When a peasant trained for a month destroy a row of immortal knights hand picked by their goddess with a well aimed and very lucky cannon shot: *medieval music stop.*
Damn good video again!
Just saying, playing first campaign in a while, Kislev vs chaos, its like Roman Empire in Attila, tough but fun. I'm enjoying this game again after how long? On Chaos Robbie's Old World too . very important. but its been really fun and challenging.
9:49 why do they stop ? So much collision anomalies in this game for cav 😢
Dragon princes should not be anywhere near this list😂 they don’t have any AP or anti large bonuses
Where is Slaanesh wat
there being no cav from slaanash on this list shows she needs some work
In general, I never really understand your top lists and tier lists, as they have some very weird rankings and choices. Sometimes it feels we are playing a different game :) Some things I want to highlight: war bear riders 10th place is weird (especially they can be doomstacked), for demis it is definitely halberds not the regular ones (since WH2...). They are one of the best (if not the best) cavalry/monster duelist in the game... What are dragon princes doing on this list and on that high level? Or lizard cavalry?? :) I missing chaos knights - so easy and lazy to use them - similarly like grail guardians. Slaanesh lanced variation is also a beast even if a different one... No slaanesh cavalry at all... Where are the grail knights from the list?
Dragon Princes suck
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yeah just use dragons instead
putting war bears at no.10, who win a 1v1 against 99% of other cavalry, is just goofy. putting dragon princes anywhere on this video is just goofy. putting grail guardians instead of grail knights because they are "easier to use" even tho you admit grail knights get more value in all scenarios, is just hypocritical. i dont think there is any value to this top ten whatsoever
this isnt even the first time too, other top 10 videos have some picks that seem intentionally controversial.
The comments on these videos are always so funny 😂 dozens of angry people arguing over what unit deserves what spot in a subjective list for a PvE game. If you already "know" what's best, why you watching tier lists?
Surprised the following 3 didn't make it.
Slaanesh: Heartseekers
DE: Dread knights
Greenskins: Goblin spider riders
Is this rage bait??
What are opinions?
Bruh this list is so wrong, war bear riders are 2nd imo and the top cav has to be knights of tor gaval
first!