Breath of Fire 2 - Know the Facts! (Things you didn't know about Breath of Fire II)
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- Welcome to my Breath of Fire Binge, where I’ll be reviewing and creating other content for all of the games in the series.
Breath of Fire 2 is done and dusted, and this video is going to take a look at all of the things that you probably didn’t know about about the second in the BoF series.
Let me know which facts you found the most interesting, or if I missed anything good. Also, be sure to subscribe for loads more Breath of Fire and RPG content coming soon.
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Back in the 90’s we found the holy shaman without a guide or anything.
Yes, but she was in a different location at the time. Bando Chapel has 11 rooms in the extensible corridor, not just 5. After the fall of Evrai, Seny is relocated to the first cell, where we found her in the '90s.
my biggest pain was the devil
shaman in infinity
Solo the earth shaman was harder. And missable
you know this game was my first rpg game and i didnt know what they were i discovered it before 2 years when i was 16 that game gave made me feel and taught me some good life lessons and it showed me that games in the past were also beautiful
Alot of these old games are very much worth playing today. Particularly the RPGS as they tend to age the best.
لعبة جبارة ، أعتقد bof2 الأفضل في السلسلة .
Why was this everyone first rpg without them knowing 😂😂😂
I always knew about the Bando secret since one of my first playthroughs, and I played it in SNES, I won't take the credit tho, my big brother was the one that found about it by accident.
However, why I have to accept is that we thought that was the only way to get Seny, what we didn't know was that she was moved to an easier location after Evrai, and I only learned about it several years later.
A few more facts. The Barose character in bof2 that teaches you the spell ‘missile’ is a reference to author William S Burroughs. Probably due to the William Tell incident where he accidentally shot his wife in the head in Mexico. The ‘Nikanoru’ description from DeathEvan is a reference to the word ‘nicanor’, a word derived from the fantastic book ‘Autumn of the Patriarch’ by Gabriel Garcia Marquez, whose name is also represented in the closing credits.
I'll watch and like until this guy becomes famous. So underrated
Totally agree with you
Thanks mate :D
Except for the part where he thinks no one discovered Seny for years...I had Seny when I was 13 and that was some 25 years ago to put you in perspective(not everybody had the web and youtube back then) and I was using the Jean fusion with his Atomedge Slash ability but I was to low level on my rented bof2 snes cartridge and Jean kept dying and loosing the fusion so had to remove Jean from my party because he was useless as a low level bard with a thorned soleSD with no way to fix it in the game (to my knowledge)...
@@lorddoomer501 Except that's not what he's referring to. There are eleven rooms branching from that corridor, not just five. Seny gets relocated to the first cell after the fall of Evrai -- you can recruit her earlier than that in a different cell (and obtain a StarSH, a CrmsnCL, talk to more prisoners, and fight two more paladins masquerading as clergy). The Prima guide (which I'm looking at right now) and the GameFAQs / VGMaps maps don't know show the other six rooms at all.
My favorite RPG of all time.
Capcom, PLEASE release this on iOS or PS4 store. I WANT to give you money for this
It’s also on 3ds
you can play the first two parts on the switch if you pay for online.
@@JackyBandicoot Why would you ever want to play with the original translation tho ?
@@yagokain4189 bc it's better than nothing
@@JackyBandicoot In 2021 a calculator can run a snes emulator, and it takes 5 minutes to patch the game.
Another easy-to-miss detail: if you recruit El as Sten, then talk to El in Township as Sten sometime after saving the Queen of Tunlan (IIRC), a scene plays out between the two that confirms El is really Elforan in disguise and that she'll be waiting for him. It's kinda cute how she keeps denying that it's really her, even though Sten can see right through her (he humors her by playing along with her charade, and says that, when he finally returns, he'll tell "El" all about the woman he'd give his life for).
Kinda like with Baretta's shop, if you recruit El too late, it's possible to permanently miss this scene. I'm not 100% sure what the exact event flags are, though -- I can only confirm that I've seen the scene myself back in the '90s, and that many guides falsely assert that this scene does not exist (Ryusui, the guy responsible for the fan retranslation, can absolutely confirm that it does).
The scene exist, I always recruit El, as I like to have a Guard in my town, however, everything else that you say is false, El is not Elforan, and there is nothing in the game that suggests or implies it. Lol, you can even get El in your town before meeting Elforan, you have a big imagination.
@@SeventhheavenDK "Everything else that you say is false"? "There is nothing in the game that suggests or implies it"? Here is the scene in its entirety (Ryusui's retranslation):
Sten: "May I be excused for a moment? I'd like a brief word in private with this guard."
Farlan: "H-hey... What's with that look? Is there something on my face?"
Sten: "You know, you do have a lovely face... and such a trim figure!"
Farlan: "I-I don't need to hear that from you! C-can't you tell I'm a guy?"
Sten: "Yes... Well, a pity, that. If you hadn't said that just now... I might have been tempted to steal a kiss. Ohoho!"
Farlan: "A-are you nuts or something? What part of 'guy' are you not getting?"
Sten: "...Ohohohohoho! I'm only joking! Really, being so serious all the time... It's bad for one's complexion!"
Farlan: "I-I see...*ahem*...well... If you have no further business here, then I ask you to move along!"
Sten: "Indeed... I need to return this Master's Flute to its proper owner..."
Farlan: "There's really no need to rush! You can take care of it for a while..."
Sten: "Pardon? If I didn't know better, I'd say you just now assumed I was going to hand this flute over to you... Unless my memory is faulty, which I doubt, I borrowed this flute from the Princess of Highland... Who you are not, correct?"
Farlan: "Er... Uh... Y-you talk too much! It was just one of those Freudian slip things! I didn't mean anything by it! Now, move along!"
Sten: "...Whatever you say, 'Sir Guard'."
Sten: "...When this whole mess is over and done with, I'm going to come back here... and I'm going to tell you all about the woman I would die for."
Farlan: "Sten... Don't die on me... Come back safe... You'll promise, won't you...?"
Pretty cut and dry: El/Farlan *is* Elforan/Elfarlan. The "Sir Guard" is a clear sign that Sten is just humoring her as he runs semantic circles around her and makes her more and more flustered. "There is nothing in the game that suggests or implies it"? "Everything else that you say is false"? You owe me an apology for insinuating I'm a liar.
Also, unless you're using cheats, El/Farlan doesn't actually appear in Tunlan/Melodia until after you've completed Highfort (just as Salvador doesn't appear in the SimaFort/Fort Nageur prison until after you've taken Patty into custody).
@@TDOMMX wait, "Take Patty into custody"? Like, make her one of Township citizens?
@@TDOMMX also, is there any way to have some sort of wholesome scene between Ryu, Ganer, and Patty, like a family reunion or something hinting it?
@@jerryalbus1492 No, I literally mean take her into custody: the SimaFort / Fort Nageur prison guard hands Patty over to Ryu so that he can take her back to Hometown / Newhaven to clear Bow / Bosch's name.
My favorite game of the serie... beautiful memories playing this game back on those days...
Breath of Fire 2 is my favorite of the series. Such an awesome rpg!
Best plot twist EVER
This is such a damn good game
It's nice to see my favorite gba game gets some appreciation.
Thank you.
It's even better on the SNES!
@@SigmaXcelsior patched 😋
@@SigmaXcelsior. I also prefer the SNES version, even without any patch.
I only discovered this series very very recently, I'm playing the first and plan to get to the second after. But every video I see on the series has comments talking about their memories and how much they loved the games. Warms the heck outta my heart, it will always be fondly remembered even if the series is currently sleeping for a long time
bof 2 is really good. bof 3 also. enjoy!😍
as a big fan of this series, that was very interesting ! thank you for that
thank u sm for making this, this is much needed for this amazing game
Cheers! Theres a Know the facts for each of the BOF games if you're interested.
Wild! I played this game as a kid and didn't get any of these references. Reading Vonnegut Killgore Trout sounded familiar - I figured it was just time travel stuff 😅
You didn't talk about Nikanoru, the name given to the heroes by the last boss, adding "It is the word for dead beings". This name comes from the novel The Autumn of the Patriarch (text sample: "and only when he
saw her full length did he understand that she had called him Nicanor Nicanor which is the name by which death knows all of us men at the moment of death").
That credit is very creative!
Always love these trivia videos.
You forgot the part where you can find a hidden house with Kahn and Bo from the first game but they look almost like a zombie or vampire versions of their former selves
They actually look normal. Lol.
That thumbnail, Katt looks so good!
pretty sure the switch to open more doors to the treasure and the holy shrine maiden was in the strategy guide.
Page 128 of the "Prima's Secrets of the Games" Breath of Fire II Authorized Game Secrets by Ray Greer? Nope -- I'm looking right at it. It mentions accessing the first five rooms; no indication whatsoever of there being eleven in all (containing paladins masquerading as clergy, more prisoners, Seny, a StarSH, and a CrmsnCL). Seny is moved to the very first cell after the fall of Evrai (or, as the guide says, after you leave & return to Bando).
Cool stuff man. I had no idea about any of this stuff.
Seems ch chi is a slang for breast in many languages
There is a room at the top of the Wyndia castle that flashes. Is there some secret there? Or is it just a weird room?
Curious. Curious indeed. Can you be more specific like which room you're talking about?
I'm the one that discovered the biographies in the English version of the game but I probably should've updated the TCRF with more screenshots so it makes a bit more sense why it wasn't used in the English version.
What happens in the Japanese version if seen is that it writes all their stats down such as: Age, Birth date, Height, Weight, Blood type and body size.
The English version does do this as well but when it comes to writing down a quick summary of the character, it's written way off to the side (Like the Japanese version) and then starts overwriting the entire stats of the character.
This is mainly due to the MUCH lengthier sentences needed for a proper character description compared to the Japanese version.
It's a shame they didn't have a 2nd smaller font to do this as I think that actually would've allowed this to display in game properly. It's not too big of a deal to miss but it's always nice to have a little extra background especially on this game with it's messy translation.
Also, think I found out the Seny stat as well but maybe someone else did and didn't report it. Seny, the Holy Shaman, is actually supposed to increase your character's luck but they completely missed the 2nd half of the code that WOULD raise your character's luck when fused so she's utterly useless as a lone shaman.
It's also super fun to note that all shaman stats can be edited if you know where they are and they can even LOWER your stats if set, which might be an unused function.
There's a lot of interesting stuff here and there, it's a shame it didn't all get used or expanded on in some way.
How do you edit the shamans?
If I had a list of all the RPGs that had interesting stuff that sat largely underground and unused, I'd have a long list
I haven’t seen any one do a review on this game you have a new sub today because of this sir!!! I hope you did one on the 3rd game as well
Thanks mate. Glad to have you on board. Theres a review abd facts video for each BOF game. Enjoy!
YAY FOR MORE LOVE FOR BREATH OF FIRE :) we will feature this one on our fan group FB page like we did the first one. If you want to look us up, we are called "WeDesireBreathofFire" on facebook :)
Awesome. And thanks for letting me know. Ill start following the page.
@@HellFireRPGs Yay! That's awesome news :D
You can actually enter Kat's entrance to the Colosseum without using any cheat codes. I don't remember how I did it... I think it was a bug or something? It was like 15 years ago so I can't recall :/
IIRC, if you open her dressing room door before the Battle Show, but don't actually go in, it'll stay open, allowing you to enter when revisiting Coursair / Collosea. The corridor has proper collision and everything, but the chest in Katt's dressing room doesn't have any item data associated with it.
Never knew about this secrets. Great vídeo.
Good to hear! Cheers :)
Finally learning about the Hannako bathroom reference after nearly 25 years is so great. I can finally sleep easily at night.
I remember this game was brutal hard and had a dark story
0:38 - If you've played the fan retranlastion of Bof2, as. I did, you got to know this song very well.
If you haven't played it though... Well, do yourself a favor and try it. You wouldn't believe how much a proper translation enhances this already classic title.
Surprised no mention of the unused battle sprites for Yua or Ray, indicating that they may have been intended as a temporary or permanent recruit.
They're not unused, though: the sprites that exist in the game are used in the ending credits. There aren't any attack animations: just Patty flying in place and Ray turning around.
By your logic, Evanth also has unused "battle sprites", as do Ganer and Daisy (who actually attacks with a frying pan).
@@TDOMMX Entirely possible they were wanting a guest character sort of system.
@@ReshyShiraThe detailed sprites for Ganer, Mina, Suzy, Nero, Petape, Elforan, Daisy, Claris, Ray, Patty, Evans, Valerie, young Ryu, and young Yua were designed specifically for the ending cast roll. You can view every single one of these sprites at The Spriter's Resource. They are not battle sprites, nor are they evidence for a scrapped guest-party-member system. I don't recall Breath of Fire Complete Works mentioning such a system ever being considered, either (the book contains actual unused material such as the party fighting a giant from a mountain summit -- think Giga Gaia from Chrono Trigger but with a much larger body -- as well as fighting on a sinking ship with an in-game time limit).
If you have a previously-unseen spritesheet of actual unused battle animations from Breath of Fire II, I'd love to see it (and confirm its legitimacy). The Cutting Room Floor decidedly would, too. Even if it's fanmade like Ahruon's pixel art, it'd still be worth a look.
@@ReshyShira. No, they didn't intend anything. Those sprites are used for the ending credits. It's not a secret.
No matter what, I *know* for a fact that Katt's chest can be opened.
I did it as a kid, in a cartridge bought from a closing rental store.
Maybe it was due to it being a cart, but never did I manage to make it happen on any rom, ever since
HANEKO ISN'T A TRANSLATION ISSUE??? OMG. THIS ENTIRE TIME I THOUGHT...
ANYWAYS, GREAT VIDEO! I KNEW LITERALLY *NONE* of those things!!
Thanks 😊
1:37-1:44 I knew that I wasn't imagining the reference to Slaughterhouse-Five.
Fun fact : the little dog characters' second name is Wow
Wish I knew about that glitch for the money in BoF2. Not sure I can bring myself to play it again for that glitch though.
Monster island for the xp. You could of showed that.
The LaMia is actually called "Deiss" but due to a translation error was called "Bleu"
No mention of Bleu?
I figured that one was very well known.
@@HellFireRPGs "Ding-ding-ding! That's correct!" If you recruit Watts and solve all five of his riddles, he asks a final riddle that tells you where to find Deis.
@@TDOMMX The dialogue you get from Nina and Deis are funny too. Nina seems to be jealous of Deis after you first recruit her. Nina actually begs Ryu not to leave her for Deis.
@@Constellasian Funny, and legitimately sad. Deis's stats were supposed to mirror Nina's, but a programming oversight has her level-up stats read from the monster data table instead of Nina's stat growth table., making her stats quite literally broken. Narratively, Nina puts on a brave face, but she's a royal mess on the inside.
The secret Bando rooms? Those weren’t discovered just a few years ago. I discovered them way back in 1997, and I’m certain thousands of other players did too.
BOF my favorate
The 4 minute left switch was a cool secret -> especially because it seems it was never mentioned in an official ''playguide'' of some sort.
Yep. I can confirm that, looking at the official Prima guide right now.
This was the only BoF that had an impact on me. I mean, I remember playing 1, 3 and 4 but can't recall a thing about them, but BoF 2 was epic. It's a shame there's never been a remaster or new ports with better official translation.
bof 2, hands down the most enchanting in the series.
Is 3 & 4 out already? I sure wish they are 😂
Nice content btw. Hope to see 3 & 4 soon 😄
@Game On! His review on 3 and 4 are out 15 years ago? That's magical 😂
@Game On! Don't mind it. Now that you've said that, looking back on my initial comment, I realized it's prone to misinterpretation.. 😅 And I'm also lazy to edit it :3
i found Seny when I first played it on the SNES sorry for not announcing that it was really simple cause you use her to get nina's ultimate form
@akiro9635 different point in the game mate. Pretty sure you, me and a million others found Seny when you were meant to.
There's also a item glitch you can do that messes with items effects, but after testing it's not recommended doing with a real cartridge because it can corrupt saves.
Have you seen the effects of the zombie ailments
i can't find any better games than this. this is best rpg i've ever play. there are many games with best graphic now, but i can't find as interesting as this game.
Wow, I'm sad that they cut those intro profiles. The character intros are hilariously odd without them, but in such a deep game, it would have helped people get more invested if they saw those profiles instead of just random cutscene and battle scene. I'm thinking "Grass Runner" is a nod to Blade Runner, because of blades of grass.
4:40 Actually, [Jean's] full name is Ecal Hopper de pe Tapeta, which according to his profile translates (story-wise, not real life) as Royal Highness Tapeta of the Hopper House... meaning his last name would be "Hopper." This is substantiated in his sister's name Ecal Hopper de pe Petape (an anagram of Tapeta)... Royal Highness Petape of the Hopper House. The names of [Jean's] two loyal attendants, Tata and Peh, are also derived from his name. The assumption is that Petape herself have two ladies-in-waiting named Pepe and Tarr. Lastly, [Jean] and Petape's father's name is Potopo.
Looks like my reply was auto-flagged as offensive for pointing out that Jean's original name, "Tapeta", is an unfortunate reference to the French slang word for a gay man. The word at one point meant "flycatcher", but not in modern parlance.
The nostalgia
I couldn't sleep. I miss this game. I miss the snes. 😢😢😢 was thinking about it
The last glitch doesn't work on GBA. But I did know about half of these already
the holy shaman's secret was in a video game magazine back in the day, or at least that's when i found out about the secret
back in the 90's
I had no idea you could get the holy shaman ahead of time!!
I knew about that hallway thing it was in the guide book
That Holy Shaman wasn't just discovered years ago. I found that as a kid. I am sure lots of people did.
Getting her early is the secret.
Man all these facts are fabulous
Best in the series
I just want to know what does the move eggbettr stand for?
lol yeah it's standard to do LIVE action in the japanese commercials for games. They still do it to this day.
oh yeah, you probably will never meet any young Japanese people named HANAKO, the name is considered too creepy now thanks to the MYTH.
The Bando secret made me wonder: what was the longest undiscovered secret in a video game?
The shadowrum debug room was undiscovered for ages as well
How can I get the art book btw?
Amazon or RightStuf. A hardcover reprint is currently on preorder (don't pay the ludicrous scalper prices for the softcover). The name is "Breath of Fire Official Complete Works", published by Udon Entertainment.
I swear I remember a decapitation in this game
ummm what? That "secret quest wasn't discovered only recently, I discovered it on my first playthrough of the game. All i did was stand on the tile, go check the room, then go back and stand on the tile again over and over again. That was how I found the Shaman. Of course I was sleep deprived and had been staying up for over 30+ hours when I was a kid so I did some weird things.
Well, I am sure I wasn't the only one of even the first one that did that. Seriously.
Actually, no: there are eleven rooms branching from that corridor, not just five. After the fall of Evrai, Seny is moved to the first cell for some reason. You can actually find her in a completely different cell while you're chasing Father Manson, and fight a few paladins masquerading as clergy. As the video shows, there are more items to obtain as well: a StarSH and a CrmsnCL. If you still have your save file, test it out -- I've confirmed that it's a bonafide new find.
Yeah, my brother found about this too when we had the SNES version.
not sure why and if it's every shopkeeper in the game but im pretty sure i've seen shopkeepers in bof1 blow kisses as well
There was a US Prima guidebook for 1+ 2 that had all this info that I relied on as a kid. Unfortunately never got around to playing 3 + 4
You HAVE to play 3. Its pretty easy to emulate on just about any pc these days. It has aged very well and I highly recommend you play it.
Game makers of today should go back and play all of this series, chronic trigger and early dragon quest because the drought is real with modern JRPGs only a few actual give you the feel of immersion and Easter eggs aren't there like they where in these gems. Dragon Quest still doing there thing and I hope Dragons Dogma 2 do something along these lines as far as Easter eggs and shear awesomeness. Don't get me wrong Dragons Dogma IP is awesome but not like this kinda awesome lol
This took a stupendously long time... Check it out! Got the 9TailWP too!
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this song from the japanese spot sounded familiar somehow
Waaaait you can get Seny BEFORE the Grand Cathedral?????
There's only one way I'll play bof2 and it's with that one patch
Pls reply...6:17 how you do that..the INTRODUCTION SCREEN..where I can find it T.T
Jean is a frog and French ...Not to be racist, but 'frog' is a slur for a French person. :P
you guys learned Bombada?
4:27 where can I grab a copy of this. I'd pay high dollars.
If you mean bof 2 try Ebay or amazon
@@Lupo32 As of this writing (May 2020), there's a hard copy reprint on the way, available for preorder at RightStuf and Amazon. I got a copy of the softcover for my birthday a few years back -- it's pretty nice.
@@TDOMMX
There is also a fan translation
On esty.
@@Lupo32 He specified via the timestamp that he's asking about the artbook, mot the game.
"Favorite amphibian friend Jean".....making a lot of assumptions friend.
You serious about the Holy Shaman secret only discovered not long ago? I discovered that secret within 1994, the year the game was released. My brother discovered the secret spell Boombada shortly after.
Yeah, nothing was ever publicised about it. It was well known that you obtain the Holy Shaman at that spot, but the secret was obtaining it far earlier in the story by resting on the switch for all that time.
None of them surprised me, but they were interesting. It's weird that it took so long for other people to find the moving door secret, I found out about this over 20 years ago as a teenager. I just never bothered reporting it as I thought more people knew.
Stop lying.
@@TatankaTaylor And what reason do I have to lie? Get over yourself mate.
Moving the door and revealing rooms is easy. It's standing immobile on the arrow for 4 minutes to reveal some additional super secret rooms and getting the holy shaman early, that is the secret.
It's a so nostalgic
People didn't find Seny till that long after huh? Well then, I guess I'll keep all my secrets then... 😅
No, they didn't find the secret way to get her early.
@@HellFireRPGs 😳 Err... Wow. So nobody but me tried it!?! 😳 I was rocking Super Frog Jean for years.
@ReaperX7 you stood on the right tile for four minutes hoping something would happen? Wowee.
@@HellFireRPGs I just started searching and ended up finding stuff... 😳 I found ChopChop and Boombada also.
There wont be much but impress me...
BREATH OF FIRE
BIN9E
That "G" was a nightmare to make. Play nice haha
Literally got that holy shaman in the 1990's... soo its not new buddy
It's getting the holy shaman BEFORE Evrai that is the secret. Not just finding him.
@@lapthom
Duly noted.
jean was copied by chrono trigger. 👻
2 down 2 more until dragon quarter
Should i be scared? :)
Dragon Quarter is a really interesting game, its mechanic may seen kind of a pain, but when you get to it is rewarding in how the story expand and the chance to go to hidden areas, i like it a lot.
@@blaze45ful dragon quarter is good, but I don't really consider it a Bof game
@@napoleonblownapart8155 BoF 4 is first in the timeline, with dragon quarter being next. Then come 1, 2, and 3. Too many Endless/gods like Deis and Myria were summoned and after IV and became dragons, forcing everyone underground. The underground tower everyone is in during DQ is the infinity dungeon Ryu's mom is sleeping on in BoF2.
@@gmork1090 I'm aware of the breath of fire timeline. What I meant was that dragon quarter sucks and diverges so far from the first 4 games that I don't consider it a "true" bof game. Played it back in the day and hated, played it recently on emulation, still hate it. Sucks is probably too harsh. Let's just say it's like 6/10 to me.
Here 8s another fact. There is no such thing as an assault rifle
One advice, don't refer to your future videos as "content". It sounds kinda technical and impersonal... I don't know...
Breath of fire 2, an average RPG killed by Bad game design.