Thank you, I might put up a poll soon to see if people would be interested in seeing some more regular cars go at it! Maybe like a Subaru Crosstrek v Forester v Outback!
exactly, don’t sleep on the A models! I have an 2018 A4 and the torque on that thing for just a 4 cylinder turbo is insane. I've consistently times 4.9-5.1 seconds. makes you wonder is spending $15k more for an S4 that does about a half a second quicker really worth it?
Great video! What app do you use for 0-60 times? Also, as an owner of a previous gen S6, it’s interesting to see that the new gen of S6 & S7 are slower. Multiple outlets were able to get 3.7 out of the last gen S6.
I use a Dragy! It is a device that connects to a ton of satellites to pinpoint a precise location. I connect the dragy to the dragy app on my phone to see the data and use the device. I really enjoy it and there are leaderboards and stuff too, it's really cool. Yes, I got to drive the old S6 and I agree, it felt quicker and was quicker due to that 4 liter v8 (it actually made more power than the current model too on paper), it's just so responsive and I think they simply underrated the turbo v8 more than the six. I also think that air density has a big role here. I didn’t mention this in the video because it was already 14 minutes long, but my guess as to why the 4 and 3 liter out performed its rating much more than the 2.9 liter was because they do not rely as much on boost. My density altitude was super low (like negative 300, the lower the better), boost wasn't as crucial as it would be in higher DA conditions as oxygen was plentiful when I did the test. If this were 1000 DA, I could bet money that the S7 would have put up a similar time to what it did here, but the A7 and A8 probably would lose a tenth or two. I'm also not the most knowledgeable about this stuff, that was just my guess after reading things online. I bet with a higher DA, the old s7 v8 would be well matched with the new model, but there's no replacing that sound!
@@Realistick you may not be the most knowledgeable, but I didn’t even know air density was a factor in these sorts of things lol. Thanks for the explanation! I’ll have to look into Dragy. Part of me thinks Audi limited the performance of the S6 & S7 this time around to sell more RS6s and RS7s haha
The 2.9 in the S6/S7 has only 6hp less while having 34tq more AND being lighter.....I sense some shenanigans w the ECU programming from Audi to eek out better EPA ratings.
My 2012 A7's factory spec is 5.4 seconds to 60. That is evidently in auto; shifting got me ~5 seconds. Got an ECU and now in auto it dropped to mid-4 seconds. Love it's smoothness and precision on the road. I just see no reason for a S7. The 7's are hands down the most attractive Audi's of all.
I think I’d go the a8, it’s got that old school style and it looks pretty comfortable too. Awesome review, I laughed when you had that animation thing where the a8 destroyed the a7, that was hilarious. 😂
I have the 2016 A8L 4.0t and i'm wondering if Audi has corrected the oil screen prob with the turbos on the '18-'21 4.0t v8's??? BECAUSE THERE WERE TONS OF ENGINE FAILURES DO TO THE TURBOS. other than that I feel the A8L is always the best bang for buck. Unless you can find the rs7 or S8!!
This is a different engine. EA825 series. Yours is an EA824 series. This one is designed and Built by Porsche. And was fist sold in the Panamera GTS and Bentley Flying Spur before being offered in the D5 A8. I have this car, it is suitably quick from launch and a freeway missile, as you'd suspect.
@@josephquinto5812 Arm rest got stuck, had a small coolant leak, all fixed under warranty. Nothing major, the turbos definitely won't explode due to oil starvation, like they could on a few D4s. But as with any big German Q-Ship, get an extended warranty like I did. This may be the last V8 A8 something to cherish for a long time. Next gen is all electric.
The difference comes in technology and hardware, sure the A7 is fast but it’ll struggle more, I’ve been modifying mine extensively trying to break 500bhp but the transmission and differential along with some other components means I have to rebuild the engine and trans to make it run those number reliably, my friend in his S7 can make 600 reliably with no issues
@@snakeeyes9246 yup the DSG is a a lot quicker but kinda stupid 😂 basically have to manually shift all the time otherwise it shifts to low or too high, there’s upgrades to get it to handle more torque but it’s still low
Nice review! Just a question, why are you using the 0-60 (1ft) time instead of 0-60 time? I've seen most people use their 0-60 times as the acceleration results.
Great question and thank you, I can't speak too much for youtubers, but every major outlet like Motor Trend, Car and Driver, Automobile, Edmunds, etc. use 1 ft rollout. It's the standard that most use so I stick with it so people aren't questioning why they heard that the car does it 2 or 3 tenths faster than what I got. Even Drag Times (one of the biggest drag racing channels) will use 1 ft rollout times in his thumbnails at times because that is the one that people use to compare to other times achieved for the car. Using 1 ft rollout let's me compare apples to apples with other outlets and it looks a few tenths better than if I used the orange! Let's face it, most people have zero clue what 1 ft rollout is so why bother changing the standard.
Next time, measure them from idle (real life conditions), and then launch. Almost never in a real life scenario will anyone use launch off a light. Audi's tend to have much worse results from idle. Launch optimizes their times for marketing purposes. For me, true performance is the time you get when you floor it in sport mode. The 1ft rollout method is only used by Car and Driver.
1ft rollout is used absolutely everywhere (as in major Automotive Journalist outlets), not just Car and Driver. Also, not saying that I street race (because I don't), but I have seen many. Almost every time, people brake torque or use some sort of launch control or two-step system if they got it, unless they aren't really going for it or they are doing a roll race. Maybe are experiences differ but that's the trend in the videos i have seen too. I would measure it with no launch too, but these are not press vehicles and I don't want to hustle them that much, one run down and one run back is all I'd prefer to do and the launch gets these a much better time!
@@Realistick I see. Maybe in a 3 honk street race or drag strip, launch could possibly be an option, but not from a green light on the street. Takes time to activate, and when you let go, there is ~0.5s delay from when you release the launch to when the car starts moving. Launch is very bad on the drivetrain too. Most races I seen have just been light goes green you floor it. If you can do 1 from idle, and 1 from launch would be better. How many times have you used launch control off a light? I have maybe used it 2 times in all years, and one of the times I totally failed on the reaction time.
@@DMCarReviews I have not owned a car with launch control, but I definitely brake torque in automatics or build revs and drop the clutch if I am in a manual and I want to get away from a light quickly. Still, even with all of the Carwow races, they always try to use launch control. Rarely do they flat out fail with them because of a delay (mostly they mess up with BMW because they are super inconsistent with launch control) but they also just drop the hands to race. Street outlaws flashes a light to start it (they mostly have trans brakes and always build revs or boost to launch), I think no launch control is an easier way to go about things so I could see why some might do that, I just haven't witnessed many people do that. Maybe people only share videos of when they use launch control because it is more impressive!
@@Realistick It's easy on carwow because they have a countdown earlier and press ahead of time. In a real streetlight race, they won't have the time to time it properly, let alone activate it.
youve really got to take in top speeds and 60-100mph tests .... youre going to really see the difference at higher speeds, youre basically just comparing launch
I have dual steering a8 l 60 like here and is dark blue,,,, it FLIES on country roads. If I had upgraded rotors, brakes, and even a quicker tune . Sheesh. I love the silent but deadly. Either manual mode or double tap peddle and build boost even as it , if u get on it right it's a Monster carrier .
I currently have an S5, but I am certain my next vehicle will be an A7. I love the sportback design, and I adore my S5 but its just too small, particularly with entry/exit, as I am not a short guy. Also I don't really need the stiffer suspension and whatnot as its my daily driver, so A7 is kinda checking all the boxes. Also the 3.0 has a ton of power, more than I would probably ever need.
Great review! Keep it up with these 0-60 comparison videos, no one else on TH-cam does it as well.
Thank you, I might put up a poll soon to see if people would be interested in seeing some more regular cars go at it! Maybe like a Subaru Crosstrek v Forester v Outback!
As a person who is cross shopping a pre-owned S7 and A8, I really appreciate this video.
what did you end up deciding
It’s crazy that the A model audis are so fast these days! Engines have gotten so efficient at delivering power.
I know!! Mind boggling that a stock A7 can manage a mid 4 second run. That was the true standout result for me in this test.
exactly, don’t sleep on the A models! I have an 2018 A4 and the torque on that thing for just a 4 cylinder turbo is insane. I've consistently times 4.9-5.1 seconds. makes you wonder is spending $15k more for an S4 that does about a half a second quicker really worth it?
@@boostseason just get a race chip on that a4 for 700$ and itll be doing 4.1 lol.. insane
@@Realistick check out russian youtubers using the 2013 a8l 4.0 to make it go 3.2 to 60
Hey Tyler, beautiful upload. These were some real hot cars, I admire your quick progress mate and good luck.
Stay healthy.
I've got the s6 w Sport package and upgraded steel suspension. It's over 150lbs lighter than that S7. Audi still rates it at 4.4 to 60...
Bruh this was such a good review thanks nobody on you tube has an exact comparison
Great video! What app do you use for 0-60 times? Also, as an owner of a previous gen S6, it’s interesting to see that the new gen of S6 & S7 are slower. Multiple outlets were able to get 3.7 out of the last gen S6.
I use a Dragy! It is a device that connects to a ton of satellites to pinpoint a precise location. I connect the dragy to the dragy app on my phone to see the data and use the device. I really enjoy it and there are leaderboards and stuff too, it's really cool. Yes, I got to drive the old S6 and I agree, it felt quicker and was quicker due to that 4 liter v8 (it actually made more power than the current model too on paper), it's just so responsive and I think they simply underrated the turbo v8 more than the six. I also think that air density has a big role here. I didn’t mention this in the video because it was already 14 minutes long, but my guess as to why the 4 and 3 liter out performed its rating much more than the 2.9 liter was because they do not rely as much on boost. My density altitude was super low (like negative 300, the lower the better), boost wasn't as crucial as it would be in higher DA conditions as oxygen was plentiful when I did the test. If this were 1000 DA, I could bet money that the S7 would have put up a similar time to what it did here, but the A7 and A8 probably would lose a tenth or two. I'm also not the most knowledgeable about this stuff, that was just my guess after reading things online. I bet with a higher DA, the old s7 v8 would be well matched with the new model, but there's no replacing that sound!
@@Realistick you may not be the most knowledgeable, but I didn’t even know air density was a factor in these sorts of things lol. Thanks for the explanation! I’ll have to look into Dragy. Part of me thinks Audi limited the performance of the S6 & S7 this time around to sell more RS6s and RS7s haha
That's a very valid point, the RS7 is way more expensive so a move like that makes sense
What do u think about the new SQ8?
The 2.9 in the S6/S7 has only 6hp less while having 34tq more AND being lighter.....I sense some shenanigans w the ECU programming from Audi to eek out better EPA ratings.
My 2012 A7's factory spec is 5.4 seconds to 60. That is evidently in auto; shifting got me ~5 seconds. Got an ECU and now in auto it dropped to mid-4 seconds. Love it's smoothness and precision on the road. I just see no reason for a S7. The 7's are hands down the most attractive Audi's of all.
Great review - thanks for all of the comparisons. All great cars! I especially enjoyed the OFFICE reference at the end... haha (no one else got that?)
I think I’d go the a8, it’s got that old school style and it looks pretty comfortable too. Awesome review, I laughed when you had that animation thing where the a8 destroyed the a7, that was hilarious. 😂
Thank you, it was super plush, I'd go A8 too!
11:10 I LOL'd . Great edit
Good job. Enjoyed your video.
Thanks for watching!
I have the 2016 A8L 4.0t and i'm wondering if Audi has corrected the oil screen prob with the turbos on the '18-'21 4.0t v8's??? BECAUSE THERE WERE TONS OF ENGINE FAILURES DO TO THE TURBOS. other than that I feel the A8L is always the best bang for buck. Unless you can find the rs7 or S8!!
I surely do hope this problem has been addressed on this new version of the 4.0tt.
Have you already done it on yours?
This is a different engine. EA825 series. Yours is an EA824 series. This one is designed and Built by Porsche. And was fist sold in the Panamera GTS and Bentley Flying Spur before being offered in the D5 A8. I have this car, it is suitably quick from launch and a freeway missile, as you'd suspect.
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I’m about to pick a D5 up. Have you experienced any issues? If so, what issues did you have?
@@josephquinto5812 Arm rest got stuck, had a small coolant leak, all fixed under warranty. Nothing major, the turbos definitely won't explode due to oil starvation, like they could on a few D4s. But as with any big German Q-Ship, get an extended warranty like I did. This may be the last V8 A8 something to cherish for a long time. Next gen is all electric.
Nice review! How come you didn’t put it in manual and shift the car as well? I’m pretty sure the A8 & S7 could do 4 seconds or below!
CORRECTION: 3.0T IS SUPERCHARGED NOT TURBOCHARGED. THE "T" IS FOR SUPERCHARGED.
Which one you enjoyed more as driving quality and luxury S7 or S5 ?
And if money no object, would you prefer used S7 or S5 or A8 ?
1. S7, easily more upscale as you would probably expect with the price!
2. A8, I love sleepers and it takes comfort to a different level.
@@Realistick thank you mate, much appreciate and keep going with your reviews
@@Shant2 no problem, thanks for watching!
Get a used older model S7 with the V8.
Good luck finding one that hasn't blown a turbocharger yet.
4 and a half second 0-60 for an a7 is mind blowing actually considering the fact they start off with that .5-1 second delay.
Foot on the brake, let the turbo spool, release the brake.
The difference comes in technology and hardware, sure the A7 is fast but it’ll struggle more, I’ve been modifying mine extensively trying to break 500bhp but the transmission and differential along with some other components means I have to rebuild the engine and trans to make it run those number reliably, my friend in his S7 can make 600 reliably with no issues
That's why Audi uses the ZF 8-speed in their more powerful models. Supposedly it's better than the DSG for those engines.
@@snakeeyes9246 yup the DSG is a a lot quicker but kinda stupid 😂 basically have to manually shift all the time otherwise it shifts to low or too high, there’s upgrades to get it to handle more torque but it’s still low
Would you choose the A8 or the q8? They cost the same in my country.
A8 for me, it’s more serene and I don’t need the extra utility of a q8!
I thought all A7’s were supercharged? It says supercharged on the car itself.
They used to be, trust me, the new ones are not (that is the s line badge on the side)
@@Realistick I checked mine this morning to make sure lol, it’s a 2017 though.
@@wompwomp5586ah, yes, 2019 (U.S) was the first year of the new bodystyle which brought in the new engine.
I want one of each.
Can u please test the SQ8 next?
If I can get my hands on one!
Would the 2019 A6 0-60 be just as quick as the A7?
Should be! I think it is actually a little lighter too.
Do a little tuning on a7 and it will do 3sec 0-60
I had SQ5， 3.0T 0-60 within 3，its hard. Now driving 4.0T Audi
Love this video and I'm the weirdo who is cross shopping these 3
Thanks!
Nice review! Just a question, why are you using the 0-60 (1ft) time instead of 0-60 time? I've seen most people use their 0-60 times as the acceleration results.
Great question and thank you, I can't speak too much for youtubers, but every major outlet like Motor Trend, Car and Driver, Automobile, Edmunds, etc. use 1 ft rollout. It's the standard that most use so I stick with it so people aren't questioning why they heard that the car does it 2 or 3 tenths faster than what I got. Even Drag Times (one of the biggest drag racing channels) will use 1 ft rollout times in his thumbnails at times because that is the one that people use to compare to other times achieved for the car. Using 1 ft rollout let's me compare apples to apples with other outlets and it looks a few tenths better than if I used the orange! Let's face it, most people have zero clue what 1 ft rollout is so why bother changing the standard.
@@Realistick Thanks for your clarification!
No problem!
Your face on lunch 😂😂😂
US Car market's about to crash, time to start shopping around.
Mine is 4.3s 0-60
Next time, measure them from idle (real life conditions), and then launch. Almost never in a real life scenario will anyone use launch off a light. Audi's tend to have much worse results from idle. Launch optimizes their times for marketing purposes. For me, true performance is the time you get when you floor it in sport mode. The 1ft rollout method is only used by Car and Driver.
1ft rollout is used absolutely everywhere (as in major Automotive Journalist outlets), not just Car and Driver. Also, not saying that I street race (because I don't), but I have seen many. Almost every time, people brake torque or use some sort of launch control or two-step system if they got it, unless they aren't really going for it or they are doing a roll race. Maybe are experiences differ but that's the trend in the videos i have seen too. I would measure it with no launch too, but these are not press vehicles and I don't want to hustle them that much, one run down and one run back is all I'd prefer to do and the launch gets these a much better time!
@@Realistick I see. Maybe in a 3 honk street race or drag strip, launch could possibly be an option, but not from a green light on the street. Takes time to activate, and when you let go, there is ~0.5s delay from when you release the launch to when the car starts moving. Launch is very bad on the drivetrain too. Most races I seen have just been light goes green you floor it. If you can do 1 from idle, and 1 from launch would be better.
How many times have you used launch control off a light? I have maybe used it 2 times in all years, and one of the times I totally failed on the reaction time.
@@DMCarReviews I have not owned a car with launch control, but I definitely brake torque in automatics or build revs and drop the clutch if I am in a manual and I want to get away from a light quickly. Still, even with all of the Carwow races, they always try to use launch control. Rarely do they flat out fail with them because of a delay (mostly they mess up with BMW because they are super inconsistent with launch control) but they also just drop the hands to race. Street outlaws flashes a light to start it (they mostly have trans brakes and always build revs or boost to launch), I think no launch control is an easier way to go about things so I could see why some might do that, I just haven't witnessed many people do that. Maybe people only share videos of when they use launch control because it is more impressive!
@@Realistick It's easy on carwow because they have a countdown earlier and press ahead of time. In a real streetlight race, they won't have the time to time it properly, let alone activate it.
@@DMCarReviews I mean, I always check when the other light goes red and then I build revs.
Hey thank you for another great video!! Could you plz make the same one for the A6 vs S6?
I will definitely try to, it's just been so tricky trying to get any new cars!
youve really got to take in top speeds and 60-100mph tests .... youre going to really see the difference at higher speeds, youre basically just comparing launch
quicker to 60* i can almost promise the s7 will crush a quarter mile
The video is titled 0-60, not 60-130.
I have dual steering a8 l 60 like here and is dark blue,,,, it FLIES on country roads. If I had upgraded rotors, brakes, and even a quicker tune . Sheesh. I love the silent but deadly. Either manual mode or double tap peddle and build boost even as it , if u get on it right it's a Monster carrier .
a7 is a zf 8 speed
S6 i go lol
Doing these hard ass launches on a car with 40 miles... what happened to the break in period?? feel sorry for whoever these cars get sold too..
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the a7 is not faster then a5 coupe
HEAVIER BUT HAS BIGGER ENGINE MORE HORSE POWER YES IT IS N ITS AUDI TUNED STILL
I currently have an S5, but I am certain my next vehicle will be an A7. I love the sportback design, and I adore my S5 but its just too small, particularly with entry/exit, as I am not a short guy. Also I don't really need the stiffer suspension and whatnot as its my daily driver, so A7 is kinda checking all the boxes. Also the 3.0 has a ton of power, more than I would probably ever need.
Get a S7. I have an A7. I'm surprised by the 0 to 60 but seriously, get a S7
I love my A7 for all the same reasons.