3:30 sin(s) removal 2: also, i know charon's death shocked most audiences when they first watched it, but the fact that it was released days after reddick's passing made this death scene even impactful. 10 sins off, for a legend gone too soon.
man, i was so surprised to see 'in memory of lance reddick" at the end of the movie. a legend gone too soon, at least we will see charon again in ballerina
@@SuperFlawless2010 it's gone the way of mission impossible. i don't even bother following the convoluted plotlines (there's always someone from john's past showing up just like there's always someone from ethan's past). i just enjoy them in sections and as showcases now. i just remember them as: the one he climbs the tall building, the one he's outside of a plane, the one he jumps off a cliff, etc etc etc - wick's set pieces aren't as memorable, so i don't even have a big stunt from each entry to associate with - the one he fought for a long time in some classical architecture and the one where he fought for a long time in a dance hall lol
@@360.Tapestry Only one guy showed up from Ethan’s past in all his movies, tf? And wdym the locations are “unememorable”? The mirror room? The Osaka Continental? The horse chase? Those aren’t memorable?
It was a great shot. I admit it. But it’s a straight steal from the over head shot from “Minority Report” when the little bots go from apartment to apartment to scan people’s eyes.
No matter how sinful it may be, I loved this movie, just like the others in the series. Also, the sped up clip at 11:34 of Winston walking in the museum was hilarious to me for some reason XD
So the column thing, it's actually a crematorium in berlin, and this is as I recall a "lost steps room", a room where people wait for the remains. They can roam around, or sit and mourn, the columns provide a soft light from the top, but also allow a certain degree of privacy, as you said, they are too many and we can't see properly the space. it's by purpose. this space has been used for aeon flux, cloud atlas, and several other movies
The moment you realize better help sells private user data which is the most private because these are psychologist, and cinemasins still uses them as a sponser.
That moment when you realize that altruism and realism are fundamentally exclusive in a capitalist world, and that virtue signaling is actually ok as long as it isn't just a qualification for optimization.
helps when your director is a former stunt man who knows a LOT about how to make enjoyable to watch action scenes. part of what makes these movies so great is you legit see the fight scenes, they arent zoomed in massively to just hide a stunt double. most of these actors in this movie during those major fight scenes are extremely experienced in martial arts IRL so makes these scenes all the more exciting to watch.
Absolutely should have had a sin off for when John killed the Marquis, the whole thing where John didn't spend his 3rd shot and then the delivery of the "Consequences" line when shooting him in the head, was brilliant.
When the camera panned up and revealed the action scene from above, I was left speachless... Then the scene kept going and going and my mind was blown :D Couldn't comprehend the awesomeness of that scene.
6:22 - It was at this point that I developed a theory that John was near-death at the end of the last movie, and the whole of Chapter 4 is the fever dream he's having before finally dying properly. It's only reinforced by the entirety of the perpetual "he survives this" for the rest of the movie.
So many of the sins in this movie could've been boiled down to "style over substance," but I appreciate getting each one individually rather than a bonus round.
Rebuttal - just because you communicate with a neighbor or coworker, does not make them friends. His definition is accurate: a friendships is a relationship you can depend on, specifically when it neither beneficial nor convenient for the doer.
@@JThePervertedSummoner it hasn't quite hit fast & furious levels of ridiculous yet. we haven't had a katana fight in astronaut suits in space yet. but we may get there if the franchise doesn't reset lol. and they do at least still shoot a lot of great action *in-camera*
@_GeneralMechanics_ He's got a few more years left . After that, he won't be able to pull off action scenes anymore. He's 59. He probably has about two movies left with the action that these movies demand.
@@BiffTanner Agreed, a lot of actors seem to keep looking the same age for a lengthy period and then suddenly they're old (e.g. Samuel Jackson in Secret Invasion looks about 100 years older than in Captain Marvel :P ).
I love how Jeremy acknowledges how Movie makes light of Asthma (great point), but immediately after fails to consider how Caine might merely be legally blind instead of totally blind, so he could barely read those cards if he held them close to his eyes (which he actually does).
I was thinking that too, it never clarified if he’s mostly blind or totally blind, but it makes sense. Not every blind person can only see pitch black, depending on the colors and sizes of words or letters someone who’s blind could still read it, if they aren’t affected by astigmatism or farsightedness.
No, he's totally blind, as it's stated by the director that he gave his sight to the Table because he could "never lay eyes on his daughter again". I think the implication is that he can feel the imprint of the ink, which is still unrealistic, but whatever.
4:04 - The reason they pull Caine out of retirement is covered later in the movie, they're hoping that pitting Wick against a friend will mean he pulls his punches.
@@matohibikiHe definitely did, way before that. Remember the first fight scene against Caine in Osaka. If u have the film or just pull up a youtube vid, the dialogue i want to point out goes as follows: Caine: For all our sakes! John: I tried Caine: Did you? Watch as caine and john walk to one another as he says Did you. Before Caine taps the glass case, John literally has a gun which he could one tap Caine with, but he doesn’t because he’s his friend and doesn’t want to kill him, proving your point
I was so immersed in this movie when I saw it in theaters that 1. It really didn't feel like it was 2 hours and 45 minutes, and 2. The top-down scene legit made me shed a tear, and I didn't realize it was a long-take until it cut to John tackling the Tracker. I absolutely love this movie!
When I heard John Wick: Chapter 4 was gonna be like 2 hours and 45 minutes (35 minutes longer than Chapter 3), I almost couldn't believe it because I didn't know how they'd make it work for that long a runtime. But, I was absolutely blown away. This was a globe-trotting action movie EPIC and a masterclass in action choreography, stuntwork, and long, wide takes. Almost 3 hours of well-choreographed, action-movie goodness. Not to mention the lighting and cinematography were stunningly beautiful.
I feel like the 'your family [sits at the table]' thing deserves more sins because in the previews it made it seem like he was referring to Wicks biological family, not adoptive family which Wick would obviously be aware of. It made me think there was another layer John wasn't even aware of like he was orphaned and raised by the Ruska Roma as a condition of his actual family remaining seat holders i.e. give up your first born to be raised by another group or lose your seat at the table.
2:48 Based on the average height of a person being 6', the person at the far end of the room can be used to get a rough estimate of the length of that wall. It may casually be around 80' or so. If the room is then 62.5' in the other direction, then you're right. The room can easily be 5000 ft^2.
@@wild_lee_coyote I am now going to start describing things in size from now on, based on how many henchmen they are. "This car is two point seven henchmen long!"
That art gallery/museum scene was absolutely amazing, it really did have me jumping out of my seat and shouting "Haha! Yeah!" in jubilation. That overhead dragon's breath scene was something special too.
@15:19 YES YES YES!!! Every John Wick movie has (at least) one unique and amazing action scene with the next movie topping the previous. Never thought they could keep doing it, but they did!! My jaw just dropped in the cinema!
(9:14) "Look, as a person with significant hearing loss who speaks none of these foreign languages in this movie..." Wait, really? I never knew that. Huh... today I learned.
_John Wick: Chapter 4_ didn't have a subtitle, but if it did, it should have been _John Wick: Chapter 4 - I've Got A Budget And My God I'm Going To Use It_ .
3:57 - so this is actually accurate. It's SOP in hospitality to not say your room number out loud. Front desk is supposed to wish you a good stay and hand you the card and little envelope with room written on it It's a breach in SOP if they do, because it creates a risk to the guest. If anyone is listening and they hear your room number or worse both your name and room number they can use it to charge things to your room or find you FYI @cinemasins
Lmao speak for yourself. Personally, I couldn't wait for it to end. This series has gotten waaaaay too repetitive and overly ridiculous at this point imho. Loved the first 2 though.
When watching this, the blatant Warriors "call back," (rip off) with the radio pulled me straight out of the movie and I laughed for, no bullshit, three minutes straight.
I genuinely think there should've been a sin added for not using an axe to make the killing blow on Harkan given all the build-up with axes in that fight up to that point.
The franchise is stale now. The first one is still awesome. Definitely the best of the franchise. People who think the franchise kept staying fresh must be fans of the Fast & Furious franchise.
To their credit, they kept the effort strong and even came away with a few surprises like Common in 2, Mark Dacacos and Yayan Ruihian and Halley Berry in 3, and this with Hiroyuki Sanada and Scott Adkins and Donnie Yen. I do agree with the sentiment in many respects, but at least it can be said they made solid use of the talent they had the further it went along, silly as it got.
5:47 That spin she does on the floor was me back when I was learning Aikido and someone tried to pin me, and ended-up with me spinning OUT of their wrist-grab.
The DJ was a small nod to The Warriors. Yeah I get it, good point that not everyone might have the same station on. But it really was just meant as a little homage to the movie that most inspired Chad Stahelski when making the movie.
4:22 It’s not about how the friendship is formed, it’s about when the friendship is put to the test. Your work friend killed someone who he said “deserved it”; you going to help him bury the body?
@@KetraarNah the first John Wick wasn't nearly as ridiculous. Example, John gets stabbed with a broken glass bottle and falls from a 2 story club balcony, then needs stitches and rest in order to recuperate. In 4 he gets hit by multiple cars driving at full speed, falls from a 10 story window and 100 flight of steps just to ultimately shrug it off like it was nothing 🤷♂️. Sure you also had to suspend your disbelief a little in the first as well, but this one requires you to shut your brain off completely in order to even get into it.
I'm a bit disappointed Cinemasins didn't sin the obvious rip off of the lips-only radio announcer scene from the 1979 movie The Warriors. That $hit was classic yo! 😅
I keep telling my friends that John Wick 4 better be the last in the series, because "the 4th one ends so perfect that if they made a 5th I can't see how it can get better" .... without telling them why... I don't want a zombie wick
My only nitpick is the bullets that somehow only go about two feet and then just vanish. Here’s a thing: count how many collateral deaths there would be of the bullets kept going.
This is one of those movies that really pushes back against the narrative you see a lot of today with people complaining about realism, overpowered characters, how believable something is and so on based on some of things that John survives and manages with the time and pace of his journey... (ex falling out the building hitting the car and getting back up, falling off the roof in the club and getting back up instantly and the moment with the stairway's in France) All that being said, in my mind I still loved this movie regardless, one of the best action films ever made!
I think it's to illustrate John's willpower and what made him the "Baba Yaga", not to be fantastical or to pay no heed to suspension of disbelief. Though, to be fair, I always felt there was something supernatural about John since the first film. The way the Russians talk about him like he's a ghost, something elemental out in the world. A story told to children like Dracula, or the Baba Yaga, actually.
It works because John gets hurt. He suffers every step of the way. Film realism isn't about "reality", unless the story you're telling is a documentary. It's about thinking through the consequences of actions taken. Probably the strongest theme in all of the Wick movies is that of consequence. Everything everyone does incurs a consequence for them or for someone else. That's why it works. John Wick is overpowered, sure, but he and his friends still face terrible consequences for the things they do. It's the same reason Superman works despite being in-universe OP. It's not about how strong he is, it's about the people behind him that he protects. High stakes for Superman isn't "you'll die", it's "everyone behind you will die". Same idea for Wick. It's not about how good he is at being an assassin, it's about Winston and Caine and everyone else he takes with him. It's about what happens to them.
@@masterdynamo6457 "It works because John gets hurt. He suffers every step of the way." So I think you even addressed the flaw in itself. He doesn't REALLY actually get hurt. Yes he gets shot and stabbed at times we know that, but come on man falling off the roof of buildings multiple times in this franchise and not breaking his body to the point of being paralyzed is a bit ridiculous. Cool but also ridiculous. The rest of your point I get but that's not where my focus is on.
@@OrionInSpace This right here. I fell out of a tree only 10ft, was out of commission for just a lil' over two weeks with a bruised spinal column. When I was able to walk around it was still about another week before I got back to normal. Not a damn thing is realistic about the damage John takes xD Which is fine, I don't watch these movies for that. I just wanna see some cool shit.
@@tonysmith9905 same here but at the same time I wish some people would levy that for other movies. Instead of being overly critical for the sake of it just enjoy what's there.
I feel like the wick franchise has never needed anything more than a generic revenge plot. The magic is in the acting, keanu smashed it! Along with all the performers that made it happen.
5:15 When you play a Video Game (foreshadowing that epic scene that comes up later), and you get to the higher stages, the villains either get bigger, tougher, or more heavily equipped with weapons.
Speaking of night clubs in ancient, historical buildings: My brother and I were in Nottingham, England on vacation, and we were a bit aimless. We saw an old cathedral, it was late afternoon, we figured it'd be a good place to sit, rest, and admire some history. This place had two bars on either side and a huge dance floor in the back. We were surprised it was even open (the sun was still out), but we got drinks and still enjoyed history, just with booze.
The two sin removals were the ones that were mandatory. I appreciate your compliance. Also I just knew there was going to be a sin about the stairs, I would've been mighty pissed if there wasn't as that was right there. You should've given a sin for each flight of stairs rather than the times he got knocked down. Ah well.
A bit of a reach, but it can be seen as an allegory of how John is in hell, and trying to reach 'heaven'- each attempt to finally make it to the church being thwarted by god's 'bouncers' ...
4:18 - 4:28 IMO, Koji's quote makes PERFECT sense - what good is a friend who's only there for you when it's convenient for HIM look at Jean-Claude Pitrel in Taken (Mr. "I would only help you as long as it didn't cause trouble")
Donnie yen's "fuck off" line was the best line in the whole movie
Anything the sifu utters is relevant.
agreed my friend
Yep and the bill skargard death scene is pretty awesome too
"yeah"
I was just about to come into the comments to say exactly this
3:30 sin(s) removal 2: also, i know charon's death shocked most audiences when they first watched it, but the fact that it was released days after reddick's passing made this death scene even impactful. 10 sins off, for a legend gone too soon.
man, i was so surprised to see 'in memory of lance reddick" at the end of the movie. a legend gone too soon, at least we will see charon again in ballerina
I love how every single John Wick film leaves you drained because of the awesomeness going on throughout the whole movie...
So with that logic every movie drains him, especially Fast & furious
Lol your point is invalid
i liked the first one. i thought the second was a nice step up in style. it's been very boring since then
more like drained because of all the bullshit John Wick tanks and walks away from.
@@SuperFlawless2010 it's gone the way of mission impossible. i don't even bother following the convoluted plotlines (there's always someone from john's past showing up just like there's always someone from ethan's past). i just enjoy them in sections and as showcases now. i just remember them as: the one he climbs the tall building, the one he's outside of a plane, the one he jumps off a cliff, etc etc etc - wick's set pieces aren't as memorable, so i don't even have a big stunt from each entry to associate with - the one he fought for a long time in some classical architecture and the one where he fought for a long time in a dance hall lol
@@360.Tapestry Only one guy showed up from Ethan’s past in all his movies, tf? And wdym the locations are “unememorable”? The mirror room? The Osaka Continental? The horse chase? Those aren’t memorable?
That over head scene is the best, 100% deserved 5 sins off for amazing execution.
It would but the movie was too long
It was a great shot. I admit it. But it’s a straight steal from the over head shot from “Minority Report” when the little bots go from apartment to apartment to scan people’s eyes.
@@nO.3yesno it was too short
10*
Yes, it was so hype when it went top down.
No matter how sinful it may be, I loved this movie, just like the others in the series. Also, the sped up clip at 11:34 of Winston walking in the museum was hilarious to me for some reason XD
smol wiston
It's because his body stays mostly in the same motion, but his legs are just zippy. It's like watching a duck paddle.
It is hilarious lmao
Oddly enough this one bothered me a little. The bulletproof suit was the problem
_Just_ a little? @@MelodicTurtleMetal
I just want to clarify that the pillow thing isn’t for silencing it’s for making sure you have no blood on you when you walk back out.
Ahh the experienced one huh
That's not movie logic
howd you know tho?
You can definitely silence a pistol with a pillow. Not by much. And you get one shot. But in a way it works. I think demo ranch did this. I think.
@@bananaman8691stop thinking and fact check your self
So the column thing, it's actually a crematorium in berlin, and this is as I recall a "lost steps room", a room where people wait for the remains. They can roam around, or sit and mourn, the columns provide a soft light from the top, but also allow a certain degree of privacy, as you said, they are too many and we can't see properly the space. it's by purpose. this space has been used for aeon flux, cloud atlas, and several other movies
The column thing? You mean the columns outside the German night club? That is the Alte Nationalgallerie, an art gallery.
no the room where charon dies@@MorningNapalm
That moment when you realize that Cinema Sins need more therapy that most people in the world...
More like they're doing more to help those struggling with their mental health than most governments in the world
The moment you realize better help sells private user data which is the most private because these are psychologist, and cinemasins still uses them as a sponser.
That moment when you realize that altruism and realism are fundamentally exclusive in a capitalist world, and that virtue signaling is actually ok as long as it isn't just a qualification for optimization.
Without movies, they'd pretty much commit suicide. ..
Which is why Better Help offers the a therapist once a month at discounted price 😊
When you realise this dude was with animation sins 💀
Gotta admit, didn't think they could keep a franchise like this so fresh up until #4. Keanu is killing it! Once again, John Wick doesn’t disappoint.
[killing it] Yes, that's what all the guns 'n' hosers are for.
That’s the reaction I had to the Modern planet of the apes movies. Amazing trilogy
so did he actually die in this movie?
@@WopJr sadly chapter 5 is coming out
helps when your director is a former stunt man who knows a LOT about how to make enjoyable to watch action scenes. part of what makes these movies so great is you legit see the fight scenes, they arent zoomed in massively to just hide a stunt double. most of these actors in this movie during those major fight scenes are extremely experienced in martial arts IRL so makes these scenes all the more exciting to watch.
Caines “Fuck off” was hilarious and unexpected 😂
The way John Wick has kept a far more consistent level of quality than The Matrix films... Is it safe to say Wick is now Keanu's true gold franchise?
I 100% agree with that.
for sure no doubt
I mean, I would argue that statement is true against virtually every franchise. Maybe Bond films beat it, but I dunno.
Bill and Ted will always be his true gold franchise
@@reconsoldier135have you watched the second or third Bill and Ted film?
Glad this film got to showcase the awesome martial arts and acting skills of Donnie Yen and Scott Adkins! Those dudes are certifiable legends!
Don't forget Hiroyuki Sanada. I was not excited for the prospect of a 4th film, but getting those 3 in this one film made it all worth it.
Scott Adkins for a batman franchise. He would be a kick ass batman and I think a great Bruce Wayne
The scene where John was kicked down the stairs deserved 1 million sins on its own
Jeremy sums up EVERYBODY'S reactions
"Oh, come the F*CK on"
"OH, COME-"
I screamed "GET THE F&CK OUTTA HERE!" in the theater lmao 🤣
He should ended that rivalry there. That would have been an awesome set piece there.
@@LittleBigPlanetian That was exactly how I reacted when he was almost there and got kicked down 7 flights of stairs 😂
The fact he just lets guys chuck him down the stairs is just stupid
Absolutely should have had a sin off for when John killed the Marquis, the whole thing where John didn't spend his 3rd shot and then the delivery of the "Consequences" line when shooting him in the head, was brilliant.
int's not brilliant, it's stupid. John could kill Marquis at the table instead of playing dominoes. Whole movie is a bs
@@games4us132 you missed the point of the entire franchise, you ignorant
When the camera panned up and revealed the action scene from above, I was left speachless... Then the scene kept going and going and my mind was blown :D Couldn't comprehend the awesomeness of that scene.
That was some amazing cinematography
and the stupidity of some scenes. which are very obvious, but fans seem too scared to admit.
6:22 - It was at this point that I developed a theory that John was near-death at the end of the last movie, and the whole of Chapter 4 is the fever dream he's having before finally dying properly. It's only reinforced by the entirety of the perpetual "he survives this" for the rest of the movie.
That would make sense as he get shat on all through out the film
So many of the sins in this movie could've been boiled down to "style over substance," but I appreciate getting each one individually rather than a bonus round.
Not taking a sin off for Yen's awesome introductory fight scene feels like a miss.
i'm sorry i love donnie yen but he is BLIND in this film! he should have been killed a dozen different ways in every fight scene lol.
@@jamesliggins891 "I am one with the force and the force is with me"- Yen
@@hemandy94 if only this was star wars lol
He spoilt it
Each chapter has been fresh, engaging and ultimately entertaining. Most franchises can’t boast that
This movie retreads a lot of things we have seen in the previous films. For example, a trained attack German Shepard was featured in chapter 3.
@@1977TA Yeah, except the previous one had two and they did bigger stunts
@@1977TAThey're not German Shepherds, they're Belgian Malinois's.
Lmao ok. This movie was Fast and Furious level stupid. What an utterly awful movie
@@thesurp72520 That too
Rebuttal - just because you communicate with a neighbor or coworker, does not make them friends. His definition is accurate: a friendships is a relationship you can depend on, specifically when it neither beneficial nor convenient for the doer.
Biggest sin: We're gonna have to wait a couple decades for a movie series this consistently good.
It's not been consistently good. It went from somewhat grounded, semi-relastic to cartoony Fast & Furious tier of ridiculous
Funny enough, a few decades from now Keanu will still look the way he does with the long hair and beard. He really is Samurai Jack!
@@JThePervertedSummoner it hasn't quite hit fast & furious levels of ridiculous yet. we haven't had a katana fight in astronaut suits in space yet. but we may get there if the franchise doesn't reset lol.
and they do at least still shoot a lot of great action *in-camera*
@_GeneralMechanics_ He's got a few more years left . After that, he won't be able to pull off action scenes anymore. He's 59. He probably has about two movies left with the action that these movies demand.
@@BiffTanner Agreed, a lot of actors seem to keep looking the same age for a lengthy period and then suddenly they're old (e.g. Samuel Jackson in Secret Invasion looks about 100 years older than in Captain Marvel :P ).
"Does he let the dog decide its own victims?"
Well the dog was the hotel guest, and the guy was the emotional support animal...so most likely.
I love how Jeremy acknowledges how Movie makes light of Asthma (great point), but immediately after fails to consider how Caine might merely be legally blind instead of totally blind, so he could barely read those cards if he held them close to his eyes (which he actually does).
I was thinking that too, it never clarified if he’s mostly blind or totally blind, but it makes sense. Not every blind person can only see pitch black, depending on the colors and sizes of words or letters someone who’s blind could still read it, if they aren’t affected by astigmatism or farsightedness.
No, he's totally blind, as it's stated by the director that he gave his sight to the Table because he could "never lay eyes on his daughter again". I think the implication is that he can feel the imprint of the ink, which is still unrealistic, but whatever.
Clancy Brown brings class to every movie he's in.
💯💯💯
He was so cool in this. That trench coat was immaculate.
John. Caine. Abel. 😂😂 and I can’t believe you didn’t say anything about all the candles lol
16:24 that was funny as hell bro! Great video man
@1:24...that's a Pentagon, not a Hexagon
Literally, "home plate" . We're still in the Bowery at this point.
Ding
This is my favorite franchise for sure! All of the movies are great in their own way and Keanu is the best actor for the job!
I love rewatching this movie. The action is awesome as always, but this is also the most beautiful John Wick movie.
The “I am klaus” guy, real name Sven, is the bouncer for Berghain, an iconic club in Germany
4:04 - The reason they pull Caine out of retirement is covered later in the movie, they're hoping that pitting Wick against a friend will mean he pulls his punches.
I mean, he did pull his punch with that last bullet...
Be careful what you wish for?
@@matohibikiHe definitely did, way before that. Remember the first fight scene against Caine in Osaka. If u have the film or just pull up a youtube vid, the dialogue i want to point out goes as follows:
Caine: For all our sakes!
John: I tried
Caine: Did you?
Watch as caine and john walk to one another as he says Did you.
Before Caine taps the glass case, John literally has a gun which he could one tap Caine with, but he doesn’t because he’s his friend and doesn’t want to kill him, proving your point
Yep same idea as when Viggo offer Marcus the open contract in the first movie
I was so immersed in this movie when I saw it in theaters that 1. It really didn't feel like it was 2 hours and 45 minutes, and 2. The top-down scene legit made me shed a tear, and I didn't realize it was a long-take until it cut to John tackling the Tracker. I absolutely love this movie!
Same thing, only I got bored and fell asleep during the first 20 minutes and woke up at the credits.
@@abellopez6225 I got bored about halfway into the movie.
1:24 haha. Cinema Sins sinned! That's a pentagon 😂😂😂 *DING*
When I heard John Wick: Chapter 4 was gonna be like 2 hours and 45 minutes (35 minutes longer than Chapter 3), I almost couldn't believe it because I didn't know how they'd make it work for that long a runtime. But, I was absolutely blown away. This was a globe-trotting action movie EPIC and a masterclass in action choreography, stuntwork, and long, wide takes. Almost 3 hours of well-choreographed, action-movie goodness. Not to mention the lighting and cinematography were stunningly beautiful.
I would add the 4Dx effects were very nice!
12:01 no sin for the fact that Winston’s teeth looked like the evil Inspector gadget here? Lol
I thought he shounded like he'd reshently gotten denshurzh.
That top-down sequence in Paris keeps me riveted every watch. One of the best in the series.
1:24 - Jeremy doesn't know what a pentagon is. *DING*
5:18 - Literally the "SWAT-type guys"s armor being "bulletproof"
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I feel like the 'your family [sits at the table]' thing deserves more sins because in the previews it made it seem like he was referring to Wicks biological family, not adoptive family which Wick would obviously be aware of. It made me think there was another layer John wasn't even aware of like he was orphaned and raised by the Ruska Roma as a condition of his actual family remaining seat holders i.e. give up your first born to be raised by another group or lose your seat at the table.
Odds on them using that idea for the next movie, you think?
Family in the underworld context means gangs like in Mafia and yakuza, not actual family
2:48 Based on the average height of a person being 6', the person at the far end of the room can be used to get a rough estimate of the length of that wall. It may casually be around 80' or so. If the room is then 62.5' in the other direction, then you're right. The room can easily be 5000 ft^2.
Average height for a man is 5'8" though not 6'
Yes but your average henchman is going to be taller than the average person. I can easily see the average henchman around 6’ tall.
@@keoki_kemp bill skarsgard is 6'4" though so that would make the room even bigger
@@wild_lee_coyote I am now going to start describing things in size from now on, based on how many henchmen they are. "This car is two point seven henchmen long!"
That art gallery/museum scene was absolutely amazing, it really did have me jumping out of my seat and shouting "Haha! Yeah!" in jubilation. That overhead dragon's breath scene was something special too.
1:25 Jeremy, that’s a pentagon, not a hexagon.
*ding!*
Is John Wick one of the greatest action franchises of all time???
*YEAH…*
I like how "John Wick 3: Parabellum" was the only John Wick chapter to have another name
I'm dinging you for not taking a sin off for one of the last times we see Lance Reddick on the screen. 😕
@15:19 YES YES YES!!! Every John Wick movie has (at least) one unique and amazing action scene with the next movie topping the previous. Never thought they could keep doing it, but they did!! My jaw just dropped in the cinema!
Fully expected 100 sins to be removed when John saved Nobody's dog.
When John Wick was going for a walk, he asked his enemies how's their health plan.
Apparently it was great.
Lol
I understood that reference
I see what you did there. Good one.
15:34 You know the movie is good when it gets a sin for other movies not being that good.
Or Cinemasins hatred of the MCU is unhealthy at this point
@@Maswartz226 Probably that 😂
11:38 missed opportunity to say “most confusing game of yugio I’ve ever seen” instead of “dominoes”
Cinema sins very own sin: "...step into a hexagon"
That comrade is a pentagon
Self sin: math nerd
Result: Tied
(9:14) "Look, as a person with significant hearing loss who speaks none of these foreign languages in this movie..."
Wait, really? I never knew that. Huh... today I learned.
_John Wick: Chapter 4_ didn't have a subtitle, but if it did, it should have been _John Wick: Chapter 4 - I've Got A Budget And My God I'm Going To Use It_ .
And take away all the originality from the first films, this just turned into some MI shit
15:28 should have taken a sin off for every 'dragons breath'
How did Cinema Sins miss the reference to the movie, The Warriors LOL
Or Homer Simpson falling and falling and falling down the Springfield Gorge? Twice!
17:12
CinemaSins guy watches Markiplier confirmed
The ending scene of this movie reminds me of the last scene on the last episode of The Animated Cowboy Bebop.
Deliberate shout-out, actually. Keanu Reeves and Chad Stahelski are both fans of Cowboy Bebop.
I summarised this franchise to my brother like this:
"John Wick is a fantasy series where the wizards are assassins and the bullets are spells"
I am astonished by the fact he didn’t sin a single part in the roundabout fight about john and especially the dog being hit by cars and surviving
Did you just call the Arc de Triomphe a roundabout?!?!?
Well played.
@@fearanarchy yeah cuz im too lazy nor do i know how to spell french words 💀
3:57 - so this is actually accurate. It's SOP in hospitality to not say your room number out loud. Front desk is supposed to wish you a good stay and hand you the card and little envelope with room written on it
It's a breach in SOP if they do, because it creates a risk to the guest. If anyone is listening and they hear your room number or worse both your name and room number they can use it to charge things to your room or find you
FYI @cinemasins
OH MY GOD I laughed SO HARD at the markiplier part, it caught me so off guard, genius move
Totally missed this. I had to go back and watch the entire video to catch it. Lol.
Timestamp please
@@vishi9842 17:11
They're definitely should have been sick for when the dog gets hit by a car but doesn't die
This movie was so incredible, the moments the credits roll you just want to start it over and watch again.
Lmao speak for yourself. Personally, I couldn't wait for it to end. This series has gotten waaaaay too repetitive and overly ridiculous at this point imho. Loved the first 2 though.
@@jimmyj5703seriously. I’m an hour into this movie and I’ve fallen asleep three times and here i am watching cinema sins with wick 4 paused.. 🙄
1:30 sin against @cinemasins that's a pentagon not a hexagon
When watching this, the blatant Warriors "call back," (rip off) with the radio pulled me straight out of the movie and I laughed for, no bullshit, three minutes straight.
4 hours wouldn't be enough for all the sins...
I genuinely think there should've been a sin added for not using an axe to make the killing blow on Harkan given all the build-up with axes in that fight up to that point.
The crack at 16:23 has to be the best thing. Donnie Yen nailed it.
As much I like the John Wick films, the sequels became sillier and sillier. The first one remains the best because it was somewhat grounded.
The franchise is stale now. The first one is still awesome. Definitely the best of the franchise. People who think the franchise kept staying fresh must be fans of the Fast & Furious franchise.
To their credit, they kept the effort strong and even came away with a few surprises like Common in 2, Mark Dacacos and Yayan Ruihian and Halley Berry in 3, and this with Hiroyuki Sanada and Scott Adkins and Donnie Yen. I do agree with the sentiment in many respects, but at least it can be said they made solid use of the talent they had the further it went along, silly as it got.
@@Criner05where the hell did shitty fast and furious come from😂
F&F is stale. Has been for a while. For me, JW4 was the first one in the franchise that felt stale.@@demonz9259
5:47 That spin she does on the floor was me back when I was learning Aikido and someone tried to pin me, and ended-up with me spinning OUT of their wrist-grab.
Donnie Yen was excellent in this movie. I love his presence in Hollywood movies
16:24 was also my big laugh throughout the whole movie. I am grateful you erased a sin for that. Thank you!
The last 1/3 of this movie is the greatest action movie ever made. That Hotline Miami scene will live with me forever
You should add 100 sins for a BLIND fighting and not getting dead
We should add 300 for ur grammar
The DJ was a small nod to The Warriors. Yeah I get it, good point that not everyone might have the same station on. But it really was just meant as a little homage to the movie that most inspired Chad Stahelski when making the movie.
and, in that movie, the heroes had to make it home by sunrise as well :)
4:22 It’s not about how the friendship is formed, it’s about when the friendship is put to the test. Your work friend killed someone who he said “deserved it”; you going to help him bury the body?
John Wick has entered into the Fast & Furious zone, in which the viewer requires the willful suspension of disbelief to watch it.
Pretty sure that's true for all fiction, which movies are, in case you missed it.
And it's stale.
@@KetraarNah the first John Wick wasn't nearly as ridiculous. Example, John gets stabbed with a broken glass bottle and falls from a 2 story club balcony, then needs stitches and rest in order to recuperate.
In 4 he gets hit by multiple cars driving at full speed, falls from a 10 story window and 100 flight of steps just to ultimately shrug it off like it was nothing 🤷♂️.
Sure you also had to suspend your disbelief a little in the first as well, but this one requires you to shut your brain off completely in order to even get into it.
@@jimmyj5703 Obviously it gets more and more riduclous, they are sequels, duh!
@@Ketraar The point I'm making here is, sequels aren't always a good thing, duh!
I'm a bit disappointed Cinemasins didn't sin the obvious rip off of the lips-only radio announcer scene from the 1979 movie The Warriors. That $hit was classic yo! 😅
I keep telling my friends that John Wick 4 better be the last in the series, because "the 4th one ends so perfect that if they made a 5th I can't see how it can get better" .... without telling them why... I don't want a zombie wick
I think there will be a prequel about young Wick and how he slipped into that assassin life.
Sin 75: Film Theory explains this. Not enough force to break his back, but it’ll still hurt like a bitch
My only nitpick is the bullets that somehow only go about two feet and then just vanish.
Here’s a thing: count how many collateral deaths there would be of the bullets kept going.
11:35 the way they sped up Winston walking looks like the old fashion metal coin banks is hilarious
This is one of those movies that really pushes back against the narrative you see a lot of today with people complaining about realism, overpowered characters, how believable something is and so on based on some of things that John survives and manages with the time and pace of his journey... (ex falling out the building hitting the car and getting back up, falling off the roof in the club and getting back up instantly and the moment with the stairway's in France)
All that being said, in my mind I still loved this movie regardless, one of the best action films ever made!
I think it's to illustrate John's willpower and what made him the "Baba Yaga", not to be fantastical or to pay no heed to suspension of disbelief. Though, to be fair, I always felt there was something supernatural about John since the first film. The way the Russians talk about him like he's a ghost, something elemental out in the world. A story told to children like Dracula, or the Baba Yaga, actually.
It works because John gets hurt. He suffers every step of the way.
Film realism isn't about "reality", unless the story you're telling is a documentary. It's about thinking through the consequences of actions taken. Probably the strongest theme in all of the Wick movies is that of consequence. Everything everyone does incurs a consequence for them or for someone else. That's why it works. John Wick is overpowered, sure, but he and his friends still face terrible consequences for the things they do.
It's the same reason Superman works despite being in-universe OP. It's not about how strong he is, it's about the people behind him that he protects. High stakes for Superman isn't "you'll die", it's "everyone behind you will die". Same idea for Wick. It's not about how good he is at being an assassin, it's about Winston and Caine and everyone else he takes with him. It's about what happens to them.
@@masterdynamo6457 "It works because John gets hurt. He suffers every step of the way."
So I think you even addressed the flaw in itself. He doesn't REALLY actually get hurt. Yes he gets shot and stabbed at times we know that, but come on man falling off the roof of buildings multiple times in this franchise and not breaking his body to the point of being paralyzed is a bit ridiculous. Cool but also ridiculous.
The rest of your point I get but that's not where my focus is on.
@@OrionInSpace This right here.
I fell out of a tree only 10ft, was out of commission for just a lil' over two weeks with a bruised spinal column. When I was able to walk around it was still about another week before I got back to normal. Not a damn thing is realistic about the damage John takes xD
Which is fine, I don't watch these movies for that. I just wanna see some cool shit.
@@tonysmith9905 same here but at the same time I wish some people would levy that for other movies. Instead of being overly critical for the sake of it just enjoy what's there.
How was a sin not added for John Wick briefly getting his ass absolutely handed to him by an OVERWEIGHT MAN WITH ASTHMA??!
Bruh, I was shocked he could even fight😂😂😂 it threw me for a loop fr
I know that overhead scene is getting sins off.
Minus 10000 sins
Giving 5 million sins to cinemasins for daring to sin this movie
Yes truly a video of all time
These days i can't watch a film now without hearing those dings go off in my head. Or even "super easy, barely an inconvenience"
I feel like the wick franchise has never needed anything more than a generic revenge plot.
The magic is in the acting, keanu smashed it! Along with all the performers that made it happen.
5:15 When you play a Video Game (foreshadowing that epic scene that comes up later), and you get to the higher stages, the villains either get bigger, tougher, or more heavily equipped with weapons.
17:12 i did not expect to hear Markiplier in this video
Thaaaaaat's a pentagon of fire, my friend.
this movie a masterpiece, i love this whole series... bills skarsgard had some badass suits too !
you could cut the entire japan arc and this movie wouldn't change
Speaking of night clubs in ancient, historical buildings: My brother and I were in Nottingham, England on vacation, and we were a bit aimless. We saw an old cathedral, it was late afternoon, we figured it'd be a good place to sit, rest, and admire some history. This place had two bars on either side and a huge dance floor in the back. We were surprised it was even open (the sun was still out), but we got drinks and still enjoyed history, just with booze.
15:59 this couldn’t have been what they wanted a crowd to react to like he is dead in our world right here😂
The two sin removals were the ones that were mandatory. I appreciate your compliance. Also I just knew there was going to be a sin about the stairs, I would've been mighty pissed if there wasn't as that was right there. You should've given a sin for each flight of stairs rather than the times he got knocked down. Ah well.
A bit of a reach, but it can be seen as an allegory of how John is in hell, and trying to reach 'heaven'- each attempt to finally make it to the church being thwarted by god's 'bouncers' ...
15:55 Now, you get it. You said "video game" two scenes in a row.
I think we can all agree the dumbest scene in this movie was John falling down the stairs for what felt like 20 minutes
Dumbest but also fucking hysterical
4:18 - 4:28
IMO, Koji's quote makes PERFECT sense - what good is a friend who's only there for you when it's convenient for HIM
look at Jean-Claude Pitrel in Taken (Mr. "I would only help you as long as it didn't cause trouble")
I was shocked by this movie. I couldn't stop making fun of it long enough to enjoy the action. Donnie Yen was awesome at least.