John Wick Chapter 4 - A (Mostly) Excellent Finale
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มี.ค. 2023
- After a long wait, John Wick 4 is finally with us. But was it worth the wait, and is it a fitting swan song for one of the best action heroes in recent memory? Let's find out.
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It's quite remarkable how Tom Cruise and Keanu Reeves who's at their 50s/60s are doing their best to save the blockbuster action genre
Right?!?! Tom Cruise absolutely crushing it in top gun Maverick and John wick is a series that's going to be very difficult to beat.
Will be a big blow when they finally retire and eventually pass
Tom Cruise vs Keanu Reeves action movie written and directed by Stahelski would be a dream
they better stop doing their own stunts thougt
@@DrEdMaN616 or a Scott Adkins movie directed by Gareth Evans..he has one with Tom Hardy coming out this year so look out for it
The overhead action scene was insane . Literally straight out of a video game
Wickline Miami.
Hong Kong massacre actually
@@WhistleRgv also midnight fight express
GTA & GTA 2 if we want to go back in time.
I have a feeling it was actually CGI. Why? I figure a John Wick game will soon be released. With today's graphics...it will rock.
Nobody gives credit to the stuntmen, they carried hard some scenes.
Props to the guy literally falling through 286 stairs in a single shot.
I believe he bought them all a bike and a rolex.
Actually Keanu must be the only Hollywood stars to give props and respect to the stuntmen community, that's why they love to work with him
hahaha right
@@wongsifu460bro stuntmen get paid to to that work noone forced them to do it they do it because it's their job to do why are you being woke and taking bout props 🤣
@@DavidOG.Absolutely
What’s crazy is that the director of this movie, Chad Stahelski, was just on Joe Rogan mentioning he watches ALL of these kinds of movie criticisms - including the Critical Drinker! He gave you a cool shoutout on the episode!
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RIP Lance Reddick, rest in peace knowing that you have played many iconic characters in TV shows and video games that will never be forgotten, and that you have had the privilege to play one of the most badass characters in the John Wick franchise. You have made great and significant contributions through your talents in acting, and you will be sorely missed.
Such is life, Mr Reddick, such is life.
Drinker forgot to mention his sudden tragedy and pay his respects to the man.
Man, I didn't know this until I read this comment. I really liked him as an actor and in the John Wick movies. Rest in peace.
Indeed.
I'm glad someone here took the time to pay beautiful and fitting respect to the man.
I don’t think The Drinker is partial to those kind of actors, or even those types of people, if you know what I mean. Just something I’ve observed in his commentary
For me Bill Skarsgard was like a classic Bond villain. Sat back and plotted from behind the scenes with his henchmen doing all the heavy hitting.
He's also an assassin too, seeing how he stabbed Nobody's hand. I don't blame him facing John until the end, believing that he had all the cards in his favor.
He should've been the Bond villain in No Time To Die than Rami Malek. No offense to Rami Malek but his potrayal of the villain in that movie is bad.
Yeah it's almost like Drinker is purposedly over-critical of movies to cater to a viewer base. Wick is obviously a larger than life series where its comical how much damage they can withstand. If the drinker didnt make money from the channel he might actually enjoy movies and not think about it so much...
@@damowantswealth 1. you’re right, it IS his job
2. Almost all his critical points on most movies I’ve watched were echoed in my mind in some way when I watched the movie. Sometimes he over-exaggerates the issue but it’s usually a good point
@@jacka4484 he said every word I thought and my wife even mentioned when watching the film how it would make a great videogame so he really encapsulated the film. My comment was the movie could have been 2 tight hours because some of the scenes dragged on. When did movies want to hit the three hour mark?
Donnie Yen played his part so cool in this. The style, and finesse... and that, "FUCK OFF" at the end, was reading my mind.
It was so unexpected, I didn't know if I should've laughed or kept a serious face. 🤣
i loved him because he reminded me of Wu Zi Mu from Gta San Andreas
yea he was amazing as daredevil in this movie..................................duhhhh
@SuperSuperdude88 well I'm surprised Disney didn't race swap DD with Donny Yen. It's not like they have an ounce of respect for the property
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I had the chance to meet the John Wick PR team when John Wick 1 came out. The idea of the movie feeling like a video game was intentional from day 1. The production team invited prominent Game Developers to pre-screening of the movie, and we all loved it, from character introduction to fast-paced gun-foo, we were stunned (ex-Blizzard, Bungie, Id Software folks)
So, the videogame influences were there from the start and not only for the Dragon's Breath sequence in JW4
Interesting
When he has to kill Killa felt like a side quest from Dishonored
Chad Stahelski is credited as Motion Capture Stuntman in the Tomorrow Never Dies videogame as well
The concept of TTK applies to these movies. Sometimes it just takes too much to take down an enemy.
The Paris roundabout sequence and the one in the room with the high camera and him firing that shotgun with dragon's breath ammo like there's bo tomorrow was worth the ticket.
Absolutely agree. I knew about the roundabout scene before I went in but still thoroughly enjoyed it. The top down scene was a total surprise and it was incredible
So was the water club
The top scene was stellar for me.
The entire like hour of the Paris sequence was worth the ticket. Poker table and nightclub was great, if a little nonsensical. I do think the hard cut to the desert at the beginning was a little jarring though, and the Osaka fight scenes reminded me too much of Chapter 3’s finale. Should’ve had more fighting in the cherry blossom garden. Great movie.
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Did anyone else love that the seemingly massively fat and slovenly German crime-boss, could actually kick ass, do slick fight moves and almost defeat Wick? I didn't expect to see him doing high-kicks to Keanu's face, and it was a really cool surprise.
That sir was the legendary Scott Adkins, he's actually jacked in real life, and is a legit martial artist. You should watch undisputed 2
It didn't fit for me. Either keep the kickboxing moves and make him build like McGregor or let him be fat, let him take a lot of punishment and hit back hard. A 400 pound man moving like a 160 pound man doesn't work for me, especially since there would've been obvious ways of doing it better.
@@titaniummechanism3214 he was like 310 at most
@@juaneer My point still stands.
@@titaniummechanism3214 the caïd in Spiderman can do the same, I think the inspiration comes from him
Scott Atkins was unrecognisable and awesome in this movie I’m huge fan of Donnie and he delivered as always
Every actor was better than Keanu Reeves in this movie. Even the dog. Donnie was on of my favorite characters. Bill Skarsgard was mediocre. Can’t say it’s entirely his fault. The script didn’t give him much to work with.
Lol.i recognised the guy in second.
He looked like he was wearing a bad fat suit.
He was.
I personally loved Bill Skarsgard and he made me think of Alan Rickman's performance as Hans Gruber in Die Hard who only handled a gun two or three times in the movie but was constantly calculating and stategising to take down his nemesis. I enjoyed seeing his panic and realization that if Wick made it to the duel he could actually lose so his best bet was to send an army of assasins after Wick. For me it worked.
I hated Bill Skarsgard, and that meant he did his job superbly. Just so smug, arrogant, thinking and strutting like he’s so powerful, poo-pooing people with actual power…yes it was a trope, but he did well enough that it was so satisfying to see him start to crumble and then get his comeuppance
The moment he got kicked back down the stairs felt definitely like a video game where you reach the mini boss but forget to save and you die so back to the beginning of the level.
fr i love the whole staircase fight sequence and the entire climax was like a video game
rIDIN ThRouGHH THISS Wurrld... *all alone..*
It was absolutely embarrassing and an insult to the audience.
@@dons1932 good sounds like you needed to be 😂
@@dons1932 🤓
I have huge respect for Keanu Reevs for the amount of work he did in John Wick 4 alone. There were so many choreographies that it must have taken him a lot of time to train and remember the sequence
You see him taining on the gun range, the dude could legit become a mercenary now he's so good.
As the review aptly noted, that's not that big of a problem, because the franchise --- since after the most cheaply produced but one with the most realistic violence ---- no longer cares about logic, sensibility, actual flow-charts, or normalcy. When 99.99% of your movie is focused on endless blood, shooting, stabbing, car chases, more shooting, more sword fight, desert horse riding, fake museum props scenes, etc. remembering actual real-life-like sequences of events are the least things you or the audience care about.
John Wick is basically a modern and better made Wuxia-Hong Kong flick, you know, martial arts movies that take place in some alternate reality .... from the 1970s to the present.... in which NO MAJOR story line, quality control, or directorial or editing thinking goes into....
It's all the same, with none of the actors and actresses who've just killed literally a dozen or a thousand having a spec of dust soiling their perfectly long, flowing white silk clothes .... with none of them having one sweat forms on their foreheads...
Everyone just flies effortless like Superman and Spiderman and Thor and all other comic book character... movies that a leisure lunch discussion and a horse chasing scene are separated by literally just ONE frame of film, with no care or thinking going into the passage of time, logical flow of things (bird chirping, sun sets or sun rise, bees or birds drinking nectar... dandelions twirling through the air... flowers wilting, etc.... the usual fake preparation that goes into making sure the transition from one major scene to another looking MORE earth based, more realistic...
@@kiabtoomlauj6249but….these are movies not real life. Movies can be whatever thats the whole point, especially movies set in a fictional universe
@@kiabtoomlauj6249 Man what the fuck are you talking about.
@Kiab Toom Lauj This comes across as satire of awful movie criticism. This action flick was just not realistic enough for me guys... Absolute nonsense.
This movie blew my mind. The whole sequence of events in Japan had me smiling all the way through. And I must admit, I was also crushing on Akira.
who didnt?
@@Self_improvement2023 facts
The moment she revealed the suit and started kicking ass I….was turned on.
it also blew my mind how poor it was compared to the previous entries and that Donnie Yen was the star of this movie.
Yeah I loved this film not to contradict my previous statement but yes I completely agree
The dragons breath shotgun scene is up there with The Good The Bad And The Ugly graveyard scene. Cinematography at its best!
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Donnie Yen was such a blast to watch. His character was super captivating and charming
Yes. Also super believable.
Just watching him in the background while John did his action bits was entertaining enough. The card scene was just amazing.
Best part of the movie.
I loved his character! I liked when he put the motion censors around the kitchen and was able to just shoot guys once they passed them!
@@vvp8590 mmmmmmh
In addition to the people dancing in the night club, it's always amazing how traffic keeps moving with all of the accidents going on. That was particularly notable in the roundabout.
Excellent breakdown as always Mr. Drinker. Of all the amazing scenes in JW4, my favourite was when John saved Mr. Nobody’s dog. It served as an emotional callback to the first movie and what lead him to seek revenge. He didn't want to inflict that kind of pain on someone else, even if that person was out to kill him. A touching moment juxtaposed in relentless violence.
Ian McShane is one of those actors who just plays himself in every role and nobody has a problem with it and in fact encourage it.
and also, he's freaking 80 years old. I want to be this lively when (if) I'm that age!
He’ll always be Lovejoy to me.
@@briansergeant no love for Al Swearengen and his gleets?
It's the "Sean Connery" school of acting.
Mr Black Magick himself
The Dragon's Breath scene instantly became one of my favorite scenes ever. The overhead just made it perfect to protray the mayhem this ammo in combination with John Wick could bring.
OMG, exactly this. When he started tumbling down the full length of the staircase I turned to my wife and said 'oh shit.. he's respawned back to the beginning of the level'
Dragon's Breath is one of John Constantine weapon was it? It even works similarly! Man I just can't help but think that Keanu deliberately put that in John Wick movie to pay tribute :')
@@TheNtisyadi Definitely homages to his previous roles. Like him telling Winston he needs lots of guns.
watch the raid movies if you like that
@@TheNtisyadi i mean you have morpheus himself in the movie and the fact that john drive a bike in all the movies because Keanue love bikes which is a shame that in Cyberpunk 2077 they give him a car instead of a bike ;c
You still get a bruise when hit by a bullet while wearing a vest. If anything, bullets basically function like high speed knives, so such a suit would only protect you from piercing implements. If someone takes a bat to the thing, you'll feel it.
I feel like Donnie Yen has never gotten enough credit. He's more than just a great martial artist, but he's really shown he's a great actor in recent years. His fight in the kitchen in the Osaka Continental was epic, and the Ip Man-style flurry of punches before the wind up and uppercut had me laughing. He was one of my favorite things about _Rogue One_ too, where he also played a blind guy.
Once again Wick gave us what we need: nonstop action, excellent fight scenes, and of course…no sign of THE MESSAGE
Even when there's a female character fighting, it's basically there to just simply kick ass without shoving THE MESSAGE to your face for that
It's completely all message. The High Table is sclerotic platform of ossified traditionalism, brushed clean of critical dialectical nuance, and surfaced with an oleaginous patina of obsequious paternalistic lore. It's a world of cowardice, dolled out in dolce and gabbana and smelling of bees wax.
It's interesting that the cast was quite diverse but no one brought any attention to it. It's almost as if general audiences will appreciate characters of any ethnicity as long as they're well written and portrayed by talented performers
@@bk138gt6 I know this is sarcasm and all, but I genuinely hurts to think that a concept this basic and easy to grasp still isn’t understood by most people in the industry.
@@bk138gt6 We used to do that, yeah. Diversity has been a hallmark of American cinema for a solid 40 years and well films that are able to stand on their own two feet don't need identity politics to prop them up, so no one bangs on about it. It helps that most of the cast is comprised of people who generally don't engage in self-serving virtue signalling.
I love the fact that it feels like a video game. The movie knows that John is basically a walking meme and revels in it. One of the best action films of our time
Sharknado did it first. 🦈🌪
@Steve of Unknown Kadath but no where near as well as John Wick.
All 4 movies felt to me like John Wick's world was another version of the Matrix tbh. Many references and Easter eggs in all 4 movies.
It makes so much more sense if you think about how he has precognition where enemies are gonna be and obviously his healing factor. Additionally his lack of dialogue makes him more like a projectable video game protagonist
I really loved that as well, but believe it or not, that's one of the reasons cited by the Salty Nerds that they think this is the worst John Wick movie ever. 🤯
I think the hyper exaggerated world of John Wick makes sense in John Wick. It's cartoony seeing guys use suits as armor but when the choreography and fight scenes work with it, logic goes out the window and it's just fucking cool.
The choreography didn’t work with it though. Was no where near as tight as the first. Just hundreds of accommodating meat sacks waiting their turn to be punched or shot, and swing fists or feet very very slowly. Boring af
Did you forget the scene where the Marquis stabbed Nobody in the hand and looks him strait in the eye giving him a choice whether to pull the knife out and go home or pull his hand out and take the deal he was negotiating? I'd say that's was pretty memorable. I've seen the movie twice and I could not force myself to watch his choice. The first scene with Marquis and Winston was chilling even before he... well I've spoiled too much already.
Its rare nowadays for a movie series to have 4 movies and have them ALL be excellent. Great finale.
Not to mention they get better with each new movie.
I hlove all the movies but i thought the dialogue and some of the delivery of dialogue was a bit subpar.
Even more so considering that most movies third installment does terrible. X3, Aliens 3, X3 (reboot), Spiderman 3.... I would say Half-life 3 but we all know Valve can't count to 3....
@@mitchellpolinop7650 "yEah"
@Brutal Banana For me the 2nd one will always be the best. Then 4, closely followed by 3, then 1. All amazing though.
The scene where Keanu was doing donuts and shooting up assassins in a classic barracuda in Paris has to be one of the best action scenes of all time
yea that shit was fuckin sick
t'was a sick ass scene indeed. But that was the only scene in the movie I caught that fell into that classic, "seemingly unlimited ammo" trap.
@@RJhobbs99 yeah, it was fun but I lost count on how many times he fired 🤣
Then U haven't seen any action
@@chintanshah6234 lmao what??? What individual scene do u think is better?
The immortal John Wick, that sums up this movie. He held on through sheer grit and force of will until he achieved his goal
I had no idea it was Scott Adkins in the fat suit, but it makes so much sense with the fight.
I think it got more ridiculous as the series went on because the filmmakers are basically retelling Dante's inferno. He's getting deeper into hell with each movie as he goes deeper back into the assassin underworld. Ernst reads from Dante in Part 3, The Bowery King quotes it at the beginning of 4, Charon is named after a character from it. I don't think John Wick could die until he reached the bottom because the world of the movie isn't this world, it's symbolically hell.
Cool take. Can't wait for John Wick 9
I had a similar intuition that John was literally in the Underworld, where everyone knows Evil is in charge. It's not subject to the limits of our physics or human anatomy, as it's nearer to the Matrix than to physical reality. John's journey is to realize, however many lives it takes him, that he cannot kill his way to freedom. But we can have fun watching him try.
@@fernandoquintana2476 or John Wick X where two choppers will try to harpoon him, before getting smashed against eachother
That's a really interesting take, will keep that in mind when I go and watch it!
I wouldn't mind 9 or 10 John Wick movies, as long as the quality doesn't drop
God bless Keanu. He absolutely deserves the respect and success he’s earned.
I am reminded of the time on South Park where Heaven awarded Kenny a golden Keanu Reeves statue. It seems prophetic now! 😆
+1
@@muzzlevelocity4397 Isn't that the one when he died because he's too much playing PSP?
@@muzzlevelocity4397 he is the standard of greatness lol
@@margarethmichelina5146 Yep. Too much and too well. He became the battle commander for Heaven based on his skill in the game. Season 9, episode 4 if what I read online is correct.
I loved how about 15 vehicles pulled up in the middle of the road and everyone jumped out to be murdered by John around the arc de triumph yet at no point does traffic stop, abandoned cars everywhere and about 10 collisions and yet not once did traffic come to a standstill
😂
Well, would you stop in the street if there was a gunfight? I wouldn't. I don't really care what those people have going on.
I would probably stop dancing in the club though if the gun was like ten feet away from me.
This is the first movie my husband and I went to see ever since Covid started, not cause of fear or anything, we were just not interested in anything that’s been coming out. But honestly we enjoyed the heck out of it!!!
I thought the marquee was a great evil character, very poised and elegant type of evil. But the staircase scene simply killed me 😂
We are probably going to see Openheimer and Dune 2 when those come out too.
You missed out on top gun maverick it was also fabulous !!
The staircase scene reminded me of a scene at the end of the last Bourne film where Bourne's car is on top of a lorry and gets smashed into the ceiling in a building, crushing the car, and he gets out uninjured. I actually laughed in the cinema and it was obvious to who I was watching with I didn't believe that. It breaks the continuity of the film because the "suspension of disbelief" even in a film like this is stretched.
I liked Film Theories idea that John Wick is a superhero though, and he heals very quickly.
@@charleneWL +1 to that. Excuse my language, but Top Gun: Maverick was fucking AMAZING. JW4 and TP seriously carried the box office.
This is one of those rare movies that while I agree with basically every criticism leveled against it, I don’t really care about any of them enough for me to view this film as anything less than a masterpiece.
Same, i get that it is unrealistic and over the top but THIS IS WHY I GO TO WATCH A JOHN WICK MOVIE IN THE FIRST PLACE
I do think that there is a danger in going too big and too loud though. I mostly liked John Wick 3 but I was was so exhausted from all the fighting that the end duel with Zero seemed less exciting. If the superhero movie era taught us anything, it's the risks of milking the same thing over and over. Four John Wick films should be fine, but I could take a spinoff series.
Totally agree. In the face of any criticism, I simply just recall them having a gun fight in the middle of traffic using passing cars as cover at the Arc de Triomphe, and I’m like “Nah. Piss off. This movie was EXCELLENT.”
Yep. I couldn't care less. This movie doesn't take itself seriously at all and it is just EPIC.
Well said, I feel the same about it.
The bullet proof suits really wore thin on me (pun intended). I got tired of seeing everyone crouched down and shooting around their “suit jacket shields”. FWIW, I loved the little detail at the start of the duel when Wick removes his jacket and you hear all the slugs fall out onto the ground. :)
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I personally thought it was great, added a new mechanic to the action imo. I could understand how frustrating it was that the enemies were hard to put down tho.
It works to make the action flow better . This is another universe , it’s meant to just be for setting up wild fight scenes .
My complaint would be wanting more hands on martial arts . More kicks and lavish moves , especially with the main characters
@@heythere6983 It would also make sense when they know the Bullet proof suits exist.
@@silverhawkscape2677 Well, they are all part of the same agency. The guys going after John weren't just homeless people, some of them had rockets and flamethrowers on hand.
The overhead shot with the Dragonsbreath absolutely blew me away. This is peak action movie cinema
It was a ballet of death and fire that had me on the edge of my seat the entire time
It's a one-shot action sequence btw. That made it even more impressive.
Hotline Miami: The Movie... basically... during that scene ;-)
Is that what the weapon is called? The Dragon Breath? If so: f yeah!!
Oh my God dude that scene was so freaking amazing it blew me away it was a living video game they were totally Doom POV on that. Now while Doom was a **** movie that POV scene is the only memorable thing about it.
The movie was amazing. “Mission based”. It’s about friends, loyalty, and favors. Not just “fetch quests”
Meh overrated.
Just like most movies these days.
It's an overrated fast paced ridiculous action flick in which it's main guy can almost take missiles to the face and still keep breathing.
And what's with the guys hiding behind their suit coat sleeves which are bullet proof now????
Absolutely ridiculous and completely unbelievable and unrealistic
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 its a fucking movie not a dick dont take it too hard
Disagree so much about Bill. He was perfect in the role, brought those creepy pennywise expressions, and made the marquis one of my favorite characters.
He was a pretentious character meant to show how the table deals with its problems. He did a great job indeed.
I wish he speaks in a much more stereotypical french accent though.
He was great
I agree. I think he played the toffee-nosed fop that was born into his position but didn't earn it through the ranks.
Yea he played his role perfectly. And looked the part with all those extravagant suits he wore throughout the film.
If I had a nickel every time I saw Donnie Yen portraying a blind man who can kick ass with a stick, I'd have *two* nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice right?
nah, that's actually a fairly well kown trope in asia
Blind martial artists are pretty common in Asian action. Zatoichi the Blind Swordsman is a popular character in Japan, he was kind of Daredevil before Daredevil. Another is the Master of the Flying Guillotine. If there's a blind person in a martial arts film, it's guaranteed that they are deadly.
lmao. Sounds like a Norm Macdonald joke.
Omg I found someone else who uses this reference. Easily the best Dr. Doofenshmirtz line
Yeah you got a point there.
I’d say the first John Wick would be in the best action movies of all time. It’s just so good.
Best of them all!!!
The entire scenes with Killa Harkan were my favorites. Not to mention, the soundtrack during the fight between John and Killa was absolutely amazing. I will always love Le CastleVania, and it's amazing to see him finally achieve his dream of working for a famous movie
1. It's favourite. Learn to spell.
2. This movie is unrealistic bullshit and that scene was completely ridiculous.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 bro is mad for no reason. In my country, it's favorite. And who cares if it's unrealistic. John Wick has pretty much never been too realistic
@bananabanana1 John Wick was realistic in the first 2.
After that he's John woo level bullshit 🤣
And in your country you spell wrong.
@dcmastermindfirst9418 who are you to tell me my country spells things wrong? That sounds a tiny bit xenophobic ngl. And the only JW that was pretty realistic was 1. 2 was the kickstart of the unrealistic shit with the whole silenced pistol fight in the subway. That scene was unrealistic as hell
@bananabanana1 And nothing is realistic about John wick.
One man killing entire gangs of assassins...
Totally unrealistic.
I genuinely couldn't help but smile throught the entire 2 hour and 50 mins, a very entertaining film and that's all it needed to be.
Couldn't agree more. Even though some of the stuff was a bit over the top, the movie was insanely entertaining to watch
The John Wick movies are the kind of movies we need
great ending of great character
@@burakcz631 Yup. Not a good movie, but an entertaining one. Could have been both though.
@@defeqel6537 I’ll take entertaining over terrible anyday
I watched this movie and left going; “Damn, someone put every ounce of effort in to make this, and it shows.”
Except (like the drinker said) for the fight choreography where they had to wait for Keanu.
If they tightened that up, maybe remove the more ridiculous things and shortened the movie it would’ve been a solid 10.
Oh and not remove your main character. That’s always weak writing IMO.
@@bcm3938 honestly those parts are just really funny and I don't mind that, some flaws here and there can still be a feature. For example the part where one of the bad guy near the drum and is waiting for John to hit him again, he just looks like he got so much brain damage that he couldn't think properly and to me its really funny.
@@bcm3938 Dude, can you imagine having to choreograph so many battle sequences for an almost 3 hour movie where the camera almost never cuts. The challenge is immeasurable and yet they delivered. If sometimes some stunt people have to wait for Keanu is almost unnoticeable (at least i didn't notice) but it's a very small flaw compared to what they accomplished
Keanu looked tired the entire film, and the fight scenes were so long I was ready for someone to die for it to be over.
That’s one of the things i hate about JW movies lol the fight scenes go on forever
@@legendary2553 in this last one during the stair scene when they kicked him back down, I was like wtf!! Again!! 🤣🤣
@@WickedIonic5N that was so annoying😭😭
Absolutely agreed.
He obviously just did it for the pay cheque
Here because the director watches critical drinker
I just appreciate how the Marquis became more and more French with every scene.
While being played by a Swede, oddly enough, and quite expertly at that.
his entire character just made me think of Treize Khushrenada. there is something about SOPHISTICATED FRENCH villains that elevates them above the whiney bitch it kinda was written as. i do agree with Drinker about him missing something though, if this was a more generic film they woulda had some dumb scenes to show how he can beat up his guards or shoot real well. as is, he is an immature glory hound... and his story arc is complete... it does question why the high table gave him the role though, maybe he needed a older wiser adjutant?
Truly a dastardly villain
The fact that he was played by the same actor as Pennywise is hilarious to me. You can see him doing the same glare during the rules of engagement scene
@@vissermatt1058 The problem with Marquis is that he lacks Treize's charisma, rather than being Treize he's like one of those dudes likely to be murdered by Treize after he tricks one of the pilots to do it.
I actually have grown to appreciate and love the over-the-top action. It’s John Wick.
I agree. It's also probably the only way action movies can exist in this superhero era of cinema. Which I'm totally fine with, give me hyper-realistic worlds with entertaining action, I'll eat that up
Alot of people are so fussy about realism in action films but if every film was incredibly serious about realism how fucking boring would that be.
Same here. The JW universe feels so surreal and alien with all the pedestrians so utterly unbothered by all the brutality around them. I think it's fantastic.
The thing about John Wick is that it's just supposed to be a fun time. Yeah, the first one was extremely grounded and rather serious, but even the universe and characters joked about the concept of John Wick being this unkillable boogeyman. I see them doing the last two films just to have fun.
@@jase276 I agree. Even the first one, though more serious, had it’s share of hyper-realism. They just became more self-aware with each movie.
Charon’s death hit a bit extra hard given the recent loss of Lance Reddick for me.
I think the way they wrote the Marquis actually fit the theme quite well. Each main antagonist in the series exhibits power in a different way, and he portrayed money equalling power here.
Getting fixed up by the doctor and having limited mobility from injury in the first movie gave it some real stakes.
It's like the moment he said he's back, he slipped out of real world logic and back into the video game logic he was use to in the past.
I guess in the second movie, he bought a suit that has +10 constitution and +10 recovery. In the last movie, he got an ultra rare suit and a gun with op stats.
Unlike most franchises who are killed off for cheap political preaching, this series actually has a great ending to it in just 4 films which I love so much
There's probably going to be a fifth movie. I wish I wasn't so jaded about Hollywood, I'm okay with this being the final movie. But I don't believe for a second they will let Wick die peacefully. I agree with the Drinker on all his points. Ramping up the action and spectacle for every movie is a dumb idea. Keep the exact same pace and level as the first movie. Dial it back, go back to the basics, the audience isn't retarded, dialogue is absolutely necessary to give action scenes meaning and purpose.
@@Batmannerz It's not really about the audience but how far and how creative they can go with their action sequences
@@Batmannerz I could've sworn I heard that in an interview they said they filmed 4 and 5 back to back but I guess apparently not. I doubt Keanu and the director would bend the knee to Hollywood, though. They respect the craft too much
I was just as excited seeing the villain as John wick because of the amazing set pieces
The movie honestly just has a way of not letting your mind really think about what's happening
Also it's probably for the best they end with 4. If you pay enough attention you notice Keanu is much slower in this film compared to the previous ones, which makes sense as he's almost 60 years old and while he's in pretty good shape for his age, he only focused more on being an action star once the John Wick movies started, meaning he'd maybe be able to do one more John Wick before he'd need a stunt guy to do all the action for him.
Yep, I noticed that too, it was clear in my POV the other assassins were more agile than him
I think the slowing down played into the character's injuries too. He's been going non-stop since the first movie, and just recovered from jumping off the roof of the Continental. If the character is still alive, I can see him being a mentor or helping Caine at some point.
Keanu is a pretty big guy so he's always going to look slower than others but I like to think, in this case where all 4 movies are in the span of a few weeks of constant fighting, John Wick would be exhausted.
I'm just happy Reeves has taken the role super seriously and the director has chosen to make long continuous shots that allow to display Reeves's dedication to his craft. Unlike another franchise with a certain Scottish actor that was just a bunch of close up quick shots at different angles that were easy to fake.
It’s pretty clear John isn’t coming back.
“The other 500 guys may have died but I’m feeling lucky tonightttt” killed me 😂
Make that 501
I lost it when he was literally hiding from a BLIND man
For me, it was like second ending for Matrix 3. Laurence Fishburne gave Neo his magic suite and stuff. Overall it's like Matrix mixed with Hitman game gerne. Love it.
That Berlin nightclub scene was actually one of my favorites from an artistic perspective. The juxtaposition of the oblivious, almost manic dancers with the ultra serious gun battle and men fighting for their lives was actually pretty cool.
It was unrealistic but it was so ridiculous that it worked.
The part I had a hard time with was a blind guy who somehow knew where everything was and could fend off blows without being able to see them coming lol
It's like Daredevil but John Wick is like Wolverine with how much of a beating he can take.
A lot of people had issues with a blind guy fighting so efficiently, but I thought it was cool. It was like, this guy is so bad ass that he can just kick ass all around the world without even being able to see!
@@Maki-00 But also having blind guy be part of the shooting match? Erhm, that literally made no sense. Your aim is off millimeter or two you will miss big time, let alone shoot with no vision at all...
JW4 was ok movie, probably weakest of them all, but after all it was downhill from 2 onwards.
@@tubetorpedo I agree with Torpedo. This is like the only movie I know of where I feel like I disagree with literally everyone. 95% rotten tomatoes from critics and audience? What?
I agree totally with you but for me it's more from a symbolic perspective the juxtaposition of the manic dancing almost as if they're in a trance while the world is on fire around them is symbology for our society. The higher-ups are causing chaos behind the scenes and the entertainers/music are keeping us all in a trance, distracted, as it transpires around us. You know along those lines everything in movies has symbolism. But yeah the blind guy who needed door alarms to help him know when attackers were coming also just kept on fighting outside of that scene while not seeing or hearing anything, well that was wild lol.
The overhead shot with the dragons-breath rounds is one of the best scenes I've ever seen. The theater was going nuts.
"dragon's breath" is that the name of the weapon with the incendiary ammunition? Is it a real weapon or is it more like the bulletproof suit? A bit more in fantasy side?
@@gregorysaugustine5236 no the rounds called "dragons breath" the weapon looks like a a fully automatic 12 gauge
Like watching battle simulator.
@@mymanjoker It's like a ww2 aircraft HE round then?
@@gregorysaugustine5236 Dragon's Breath is a type of shotgun ammunition and it's actually real
2:34 I think a sort of cover for that is in this movie John has someone he can actually challenge to a duel to resolve the issue as opposed to the first time when it was the High Table as a whole that wanted him dead, thus there was no single person he could target.
Couldn’t have been more spot on with this review! Great job Drinker. 🍻
It may not be perfect, but it's something we really were needing right now.
It's pretty much perfect as far as action and cinematography goes
This is the only movie of the franchise where I was literally gasping and flinching at the sheer amount of carnage in each set piece. The whole movie was the epitome of epic and it’s definitely going to go down as one of my most memorable theater experiences ever.
Yeah that fall with the big guy breaking his neck actually got a groan out of me. They did a good job really trying to make the power of these scenes actually play out rather than just pan away and have the audience go "Yep he dead" and move on.
@@setcheck67 The entire fight sequence with that big guy was really sick. From the moment we see him in his tiny little suit I kept saying to myself "I hope this guy can fight and kick ass" and when we see him actually working John over I lost it
@@jase276 Yeah they did a good job making him funny, but also clearly a capable killer.
I’m really happy they kept the tradition of running John over with a car and cranked it to 11 lmao
What movie did you watch? I thought it was plot heavy, brought in characters I didn't care about, and was not as good as the others.
Did this man just summarize and basically gave the answer to how to make good game movie adaptions so one give this man 1 million dollars and film crew now
I'll never forget the roaring and lauging of the whole cinema when John fell down those stairs for the 27th time, what a cinema-only experience!
I actually strongly believe that Bill Skarsgards performance was one of the most memorable throughout the franchise. His character was cunning and sophisticated and truly seemed like he would belong to a society called “the high table” as he seems to have self image that is very high class.
He should've channeled Pennywise...
What was high class about him, except being an arrogant little prick, who basically showed no capabilities whatsoever except ordering other people to do his dirty work, up to the duel itself. Yes, very high class.
His scene with mr nobody was amazing with him plunging that knife into his hand
@@mark-ok3yp Nah, he fucked up a shooting hand to look cool.
I felt he was trying to be like Christoph waltz
I loved the tribute to the movie "The Warriors" with the scene of the lady on the radio informing the "Boppers" on where in Paris he was, while playing the songs to fit the situation.
Yea that was awesome
yep, i got it as well, it was totally a "i see what you did there" moment
I loved that too!! I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it in their review/breakdown of the movie
All it needed was a gang of rollerskating baseball bat welding frenchmen.
I caught it immediately. I chuckled when I saw the lips om the mic and hearing "boppers"... it was an obvious reference to The Warriors. I just thought it was over done. But I guess that is what John Wick is!
Ok so I paused the video just for this comment: THE OVER HEAD SHOT WAS AN AWESOME PIECE OF CINEMATIC! I wish to see more of that!
I liked it but the bulletproof suits and blind guy kicking everyone’s ass was absurd. Heads-up, there’s a post credit scene
John Wick was successful, not because of the action, but because of the action-free, tense build-up. By the time you've seen Wick make his first kill, we're on the edge of our seats.
Lol. You nailed it. It’s a video game plot. And that’s why it’s awesome. Not all movies are supposed to be thoughtful. Like Commando, just good old fashioned fun.
And yet it is still surprisingly thoughtful, theres a lot of Dantes Inferno allegories in John Wick 4. It’s a solid and remarkably refined plot
Well said Drinker and a very fair perspective.
You called out pretty much everything I found an issue with in the movie.
Bigger doesn't always mean better.
Recognise that people love the character for what they are, you don't have to make them superhuman.
I totally noticed stuntmen “waiting their turn” too. I’ve never seen that before in a John Wick movie before! Stilled love it. 9/10
I like how each John Wick movie has their female asassins. Chad doesn't shy away showing flaws/weaknesses and not appeasing modern audiences with woke like most directors do
I actually loved the Osaka scenes, because they felt realistic (in an admittedly hyper-realistic world); she focused on speed, disabling attacks, getting them to the ground, &/ or unfocused- the way she took down the biggest guy was *wild* but also made sense- she would have never overwhelmed him in a 'fair' fight; she did what she had to do...
@finallyotshere6800 bot begone!
Yess!! I especially loved Akira's takedown style~ feminine and sexy and lethal! Her fight scene is my favourite (apart from JW) of them all 💋
@Spacetrooper
And when they do throw men they do it realistically by using speed and momentum to their advantage rather than brute strength
lol. I don’t understand y’all sometimes. Chad does nothing different. Most female fights i’ve seen are exactly like the ones Chad does, unless they’re superheroes
The thing I enjoy most about John Wick is that it's all killer, no filler. Just pure, balls-to-the-wall action from start to finish, unburdened by wacky comic relief sidekicks, pointless love interests, or anything else thrown in to vainly draw in the "doesn't normally watch action movies" demographics.
The Taken series was a lot like that.
Oh man, I just imagined if they tried to stick a comedy relief sidekick into John Wick. That would RUIN everything.
Remember how the Rock in 2021 said he would never do movies with real guns anymore? Ya, now look at his films flop and his star flicker. Let’s see if he walks that one back bc of films like John Wick…
@@basementbrotherscollectibles Well, shit, after that whole ordeal with Baldwin, I wouldn't blame him.
@@basementbrotherscollectibles I'm pretty sure Keanu isn't shooting real guns in the scenes where you can clearly see him point at a stuntman or actor. He wouldn't need to shoot a real gun to be in a gun-flick
"How is he still alive?" I keep asking the screen every time a character seem to walk off a very fatal injury like it's nothing.
What you said about Winston's face is very accurate lol
If Keanu and Tom Cruise ever appeared in the same movie, Tom would be standing on a lot of boxes.
Absolutely 😂
Well, he'd need at least two - one for him and one for his walker (or the nurse from the old folk's home helping him stay standing and remember that he was in a filming at the moment and there would not be getting pudding/jello until after they shot the scene).
@@viktoreisfeld9470 I bet you couldn't do half of what Tom Cruise is doing in his current movie.
I also bet the only time you see your pecker is when you lift up your belly while looking in a mirror.
th-cam.com/video/qiH7xPstYWQ/w-d-xo.html I just found the full movie on youtube 💀
Imagine a movie with Tom, Brad, Leo, Keanu, Arnie, Sly and maybe a cameo from Bruce.
I think John was able to make the challenge to the Marques because the table gave him all the rights, plus the tribute to Lawrence and Warriors is amazing
Warriors come out to play'ay!!
Surprised no one has really talked about the whole 3rd act is an homage to the Warriors...
Everyone, we should ban together and get that troll link permanently deleted!
The one directly above my comment, I have already succeeded in having over 40 scam links and troll links deleted so far.
@@Paul_Colton_ The Warriors is nowhere near enough a mainstream film for people to make the connection. It’s always been fairly niche.
@@TheFilthyFinch ...or just ignore it for the irrelevancy it is.
I personally like the tracker who saved Wick because he saved his dog. Principle over money.
I ignored the critical side of the movie and treated this like a video game. Loved it!
I think the film is rooted in them having crazy body armor. That's why even from the first film, John always makes sure to tap the head.
*plot armour
When I watched this movie after John shot the marquis everyone in the theater literally clapped and cheered
Deadass people where all applauding 😂
latam vibes
Always makes me laugh when idiots applaud performers who are not actually there. 😂
@@maxpiemuse9584 for me it makes me cringe
Yeah but it didn't matter so...
This movie was so jarring when I first saw it, because it floors you right out of the gate, and never slows down.
But the more I think about it, and the more I see it. The more I love it. Almost as much as the amount of love that clearly went into this film.
The cinematography, choreography and sound in this film is some of the best I've ever seen. Absolutely amazing in those aspects. Beautiful locations, well shot, fight scenes that make me question how they even managed to film them, gun sounds that sound eerily realistic and great music. Perfect to watch in the cinema. Lacks story and the choice to make Caine blind baffles me, but nothing is perfect. Still excellent
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I went to the Cinema without watching spoilers or anything related to the movie expecting some normal revenge plot against the hotel, and the movie highly surpassed my expectations. It has been years since I enjoyed a movie this much on the cinema.
I was hoping he would take the table out
@@ConsiderFirstCnE John thought duels were just an urban legend in the assassin world, so it's safe to assume most others thought the same. Also, Donnie Yen's character gave the other one multiple chances to walk away but he didn't.
@@ConsiderFirstCnE bto legit thought the same thing with the stunt team like was super obvious with the camera views they were using
I think a special shout out goes to Scott Adkins in this movie...I almost didn't recognize him. Not a lot of martial artists have any real range of acting ability, but Scott sure does :)
He was amazing.
Absolutely loved it. Watched it twice in fact and it's probably my favourite of the 4. Actually the 2nd was my favourite before this. The homage to 'Warriors' was incredible as well 😁
There are a few low level mooks in JW4 who actually just get knocked out or injured and left in the wake. Therefore I suggest a T-shirt printed with "I survived John Wick" might be one heck of a badge of honour.
Winston told John about the ancient rule when he stood to gain from it. In the previous movie, by the end, he was still the manager of a fully operational continental. At that point, he lost everything, so I’m telling John, he had an opportunity to bounce back to his former status. They even have a line in the film about how he always has an angle to everything he does.
On a sad note, R.I.P. Lance Reddick.....I always enjoyed his performances.
My wife told me that the cinematographer is actually slow down the action so we could appreciate it. A lot of the jujitsu and judo entries in combination with the CQB. I, overall thought the film was absolutely fantastic, and really did its best to portray simple solutions that were minor contrivances to help the plot forward, but that ultimately made the most sense for everybody Who was involved. In this way it definitely cut the fluff and removed any need for actors who were not that important to the main event.
I can go on and on about Caine and Mr. Nobody. Not to mention the possible ex girlfriend with the hotel fight, and the 'old guard sniper' with the vegetable juicer from the first movie.
I barely remember the mute girl and stoic bodyguard from the second movie, despite having re-watched it recently. The only thing I remember about the chief/ninja/fanboy from the third movie was letting his men get slaughtered by Wick just so he could have a climatic showdown himself.
It's nice having rivals worth mentioning again.
Seeing JW4 in IMAX was one of the best movie experiences I've had in years. It's totally over the top -- folks even laughed at one of his "should be fatal" falls, where he just groans, gets up & keeps on going! Clearly it's not just the suit: he lives in a separate reality that's more like the Matrix than our world.
That’s why I prefer the first film as it was a more believable world that was grounded and realistic.
@@mitchjames9350 First one was def. the best, but even with this movie being so unrealistic on some scenes i will still take it over new modern pile of shiet that is called movies.
As John becomes less and less rusty it seems like he goes from quite fit to "PEAK HUMAN"
Must have been a bloody demigod in his prime.
That opening scene 😮
Exactly. It's a film where every other person is a secret assassin, surely we can expect some sort of distorted version of reality?
The effort that must go in to these movies deserves to be recognised
Imo the John Wick franchise has obliterated the Matrix movies. There's 4 Matrix film and there all imo mediocre apart from the original which is still a bit overrated and imo just a decent movie. All four John Wick films are absolutely fantastic.
respect the Run The Jewels album cover my man
John Wick 1 sold me on its gritty realism
John Wick 2 and 3 started replacing the realism with aesthetic.
John Wick 4 is pure aesthetic, thriving on juxtapositions. Bows vs. guns. A modern lever action. Dancing and fighting. Switchboard operators in 1940s attire with modern tattoos.
I really appreciated that he wasn't made out to be this James Bond archetype where every movie he'd have a sidekick-love-interest and they'd be making out at every opportunity.
I honestly didn’t mind the Marquis as the antagonist, because it really does reflect the sort of “old ways” of having someone who was in a head position due to status alone. Someone who could not fathom getting their hands dirty, but was quick to show the world they had power. It was satisfying seeing him squirm as daylight was about to break and the gunfire drew closer, him knowing his demise was close.