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I have a mil intel background and am familiar with the world inhabited in this franchise. If you would like a few insights into some... let me know. For now, that world is ancient and so well woven into the fabric of society, from the very lowest to the very highest, making it invisible to most.
you missed the reference with the shot pattern to John at the end... the same places the Dr asked to be shot that were NON LEATHAL in previous John Wick movie... Thus making it Very likely he is still alive... After all how dose one kill death? Second there was a lot of reference to the high table needing to be taken out by Wick himself, the painting shows Libery winning over dictatorship.. not one of their Hench men ( who was noted as eaisily replaceible several times thus making Johns victory hollow indeed if he truly is dead) ... as you said take one head out some on is just as quick to replace it... Unless you kill all of them.. His family and friends are back on his side and Cain was an Obvious reference to the tables trinary... He owed no favours and should not have been called back in let alone manipulated with his daughter... John should have never have even had to "Win" his freedom as he was already free... Thus proving the tables word is now worthless and another reason why John would need to stay around to replace them... He would know that, he helped no one if he ends here knowing this Duel is by no means over and they said several times the results of this "Shake the very pillars and foundations of the table." This the would not be willing to leave anything as it was knowing it would bring their authority and very existence into question... after all the villan here was said to be a pooling of all their power and wealth thus being a perfect axanple of them and how one rule for thee and one for me is also of the tables thinking not just his.. lastly last time in the ending of three he did not escape death so much as survive, this time would be the first he faked his death therfore going underground and breaking the rules rather then play by them as he did fairly up untill the end of the third movie... thus he has now become the enemy of the table rather then the loyel dog he himself has been up untill now.. i see a parellel between serving adn the dogs asasins and himself.. that or the direcotr jsut really freeking loves dogs lol .
*I like how the high table soldiers* weren’t just simple red shirts.. the samurai, armoured triggermen held their own and one even was blocking bullets with his gauntlets.. and the guys in grey suits gave John a run for his money.
@@firstlast9846 Nah, I think the actor did a fine job portraying the villain as a corrupt psychopath, and ultimately, a dishonest coward. He's not a villain that poses any physical danger to the hero. He sends others to do his bidding for him. He really sold the qualities that make him a villain, in my opinion.
I wasn't a fan of Alexander's accent, but i understand what they were going for. He's supposed to represent the upper class king who thinks he knows everything, but he's actually an ignorant fool
I'm gonna have to rewatch to be sure, but it seemed to me that Caine was going out of his way not to kill anyone during the attack on the Osaka Continental. I don't think he killed anyone until he absolutely had to kill Shimazu, and he even made a point of giving him a chance to leave. So his heart was not in it at all anymore. Doing the absolute bare minimum to ensure his daughter's safety.
I agree. We're left with the assumption the group he started fighting first, he didn't kill, just incapacitated them. I felt he held out to the very last second to engage. Even with the Wick fight I couldn't help to hear Scarlet Witch say "your pulling your punches" to Hawkeye...
You are right. The fight where he killed the father he told them tell me where he is and take your daughter and go. After they first started fighting and the first stab he said go take your daughter and protect her. The father then continued to attack that led to his demise. Heck he was eating soup not taking part in most of the beginning fights until directed to get involved. So yeah he didn’t want to do this at all and gave plenty of chances.
Honestly, yeah. I got huge Cyberpunk vibes from the whole Osaka building. The style, his voice, everything. JW1 is still my favorite, but JW4 is a close second, and that's mostly due to Osaka and the fight there. That said, my favorite fight was actually the top-down view fight on his way to the church.
I noticed that during the duel John had with Caine. He shot Caine in almost the same location the doctor got shot in JW3. It’s almost as if John was letting Caine know where to hit him so that he wouldn’t die.
@@TheRoadhammer379 calling people out for supposedly not an original thought without proof. You think Film Theory has all original thoughts? Interesting. Oh, and using your word, unoriginal.
I'm a 67 year old woman who watched the 4 John Wick movies this weekend, for the first time. Loved them, and loved this commentary! Especially loved the overhead filmed fight scene! I caught a few of the Easter eggs and foreshadowing while watching Chapter 4. Probably need to watch it again.
You should check out the making of John wick 1. It shows him learning how to drive the car so every scene you see John driving the car that’s really him and not a stunt double. You also hear them call the fighting style John uses “gun-fu”. Glad you love the movies. Welcome to the club. It’ll only cost you one gold coin to join the club.
Caine was such a great character. I thought I wouldn't vibe with him because of how blatantly dumb it is that a blind man could be even an inconvenience, much less a threat, to John, but he was so well written and acted that I totally bought it.
Are you serious? In a world where almost everyone is an assassin, where a man can tank hits many times and still walk, a blind man who can fight is to much? Gtfo
the bullets falling off the jackets is an insane detail i never would have thought off and makes the buulet proof jacket feel alittle more real, bullets dont bounce off but instead gets embedded into the jacket,and that make wick more badass cause that means he feels the pain from every bullet that hits him which is alot and he is still going. picture a cop getting hit with the vest. some fall down from the bullet impact
I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the fact that in the overhead single take scene the music uses the same music that plays in the Red Circle Nightclub scene from the first movie. It’s a cool coming full circle moment for the franchise.
Dude... I was so sad and happy for John when he asked if they could just take him home. Right after everything that he had done for his freedom and passed away (if hes dead) in peace. also when he saved the dog that got me.
@@elleadolls7283 dog scenes were the highlight. John has the dogs owner dead to rights, about to execute him when he notices someone else is about to kill the dog. Instead of killing the owner, he turns and kills the person attacking the dog and runs away. Later, the owner has a chance to kill John for $40 million but right when he has John in his sights, the dog whines and gives him puppy dog eyes and convinces him to help John instead. So John saved the dog, then the dog saved John in return.
One of the best films of the year and this is the Farewell that Wick deserves. Amazing action and drection. Hope to get a Kane Film because Donnie shined here. Can't wait for the show and Ballerina and seeing Lance's final performance with the latter RIP.
Notice that when Wick shot someone, he always went for a head shot, against Cain they were never head shot. Neither did Cain. Made me think neither was interested in killing each other but waiting for Wick to finish the Marquis and each getting their freedom.
They were counting on the Marquis's ego to show up, since he wanted to be the one to deliver the coup de grace to John Wick, thus increasing his reputation in the High Table.
Military wearing watches on the inside of the wrist has less to do with reading the time whilst aiming, and more to do with preventing reflections of light off the watch face.
Good video. Lots of interesting details. Regarding Caine giving up his eyes, it may just be my head cannon, but I assumed it had to do with keeping his daughter safe but still wanting to be able to get as close to her as possible. Assuming, like Sophia, that part of the deal with getting out was “You can never see her again” which he took literally. Now, no contact was also part of the deal, but while it’s skirting the line, he can go and hear her play.
My theory for Caine is that he lost his eyes during a particular war, and he gave them in service of his country. The assassin life came later and likely he had no one to lose, so accepting a contract that said "you take a life or we take a life" was simple - at worst they'd kill him. Then he had a daughter and now that contract is more complicated. He didn't realize he could be called back so many years later. Why do I think this? Because he's a biblical allegory and this movie is full of them. The caravaggio painting they go by in the Subway tipped me off and then once you start to see the biblical stuff it really just pops out. This is historical and cultural in Paris, so don't take the religion part too seriously - this just narrative symmetry. Caine is Longinus. Not Cane who killed his brother, that's a dirty trick the movie plays to subvert expectation. Longinus stabbed christ in the liver - exactly where Caine shot John's killing blow. Longinus used a lance - Caine, if you use the latin l instead of an i, can be anagramed to "Lance". He uses a cane that hides a sword - which are two parts to a lance. The real clincher though? Longinus was blind. Cane after killing Abel was blessed with a long life and allowed to make a new one without threats of enemies - but Caine, in the after credits scene is attacked. Caine also calls John his brother, but Cane killed Abel due to jealousy over god's grace. He doesn't fit as Cane. He cut John's hand just before the duel on his left hand to cover his tracks, but also, because that's one of the sacred wounds of christ. There's more too, once you recognize the biblical allegory they're going for this film - it's everywhere. It's just foreshadowing John coming back, but also, every other character is wrapped up in it. The church they go to at the duel was made for the sacred heart of christ and was built after a war to ensure the moral center of Paris would be renewed. John chose this place and as such, he knew what its virtues meant. Longinus was a Roman Centurion and a Pagan who converted - to me this suggests Caine's eyes were lost in a war. He says he gave them but I somehow doubt it was to the table and if it was, it was likely given in service to something more than just a murder contract. He seems so proud of it and I doubt he was coerced. But who knows.
I personally would have hated if Akira killed Caine. He tried to spare Koji. I understand it was honor that kept him fighting but still, Caine clearly didn't want to kill him and she even seen that. I'd love to see so much more in this universe.
16:40 I loved the fact that first you can see john dont have that much experience with nunchacks so he starts it easy by just hitting with them like everybody would, and as the fight continues he keeps getting more skilled with the weapon and at the end he is making those sweet looking moves that people who knows how to handle this weapon makes. :D
You know I highly doubt that John Wick is dead since it's been established in Chapter 3 in the Doctor scene, where you place bulletholes when you wanna make them seem realistic while also being non-lethal. You can also see this in the places where Caine and John shot eachother in the duel.
I think the name and persona of John wick is dead but not the actual person I feel like for some reason he’ll have to come back but he’s not dead the people that know him as John wick is dead they already confirmed a 5th one because the 4th did so good money talks and they made plenty
I hate the idea that they'll bring him back. It was such a fitting end for him. Besides, what would he have to live for afterward anyways. He's free, but his wife and dog are dead. He doesn't have any skills suitable for civilian life. To address the wounds he got as not being fatal, don't forget the role exhaustion plays. He had spent the whole night fighting for his life. Make someone tired enough, and wounds that would otherwise be survivable can become fatal. Some of the most brutal execution methods of antiquity operated on this principle.
@@VTdarkangel Sure. But this movie is all in all really symbolic. Many details I found in this movie were really thoughtfully placed. Such as the shot wounds. There are many reasons for me to believe that Wick is not physically dead. He might not be the main protagonist of the next movie (even though it is called JW 5 from some not so credible sources), but I think the "death" of John Wick is more symbolic than anything else. It is about the persona not the person.
Not sure if you've covered this possible link with the previous movies, but I liked the ambiguous scene at the end with Winston where he lays a hand on John`s gravestone revealing the Ruska Roma tattoo on his wrist and says, "Farewell my son." This posing the question, is Winston John`s biological father? What history does Winston have with the Roma cartel? Did he leave the family behind to run the hotel? Does the cartel run the hotel? Who is John`s mother? 🤯 Love the channel guys!
I had these same thoughts after the movie and brought it up to my wife. I havent heard anyone else mention that and I am very surprised this comment isn't higher up seeing as that would be a very important detail.
Came here for this too XD I mean, him saying 'my son' did mildly get my attention, but the way they zoomed in on the tattoo did make me go... no, he's... is Winston his father?? He is an orphan after all... It'd be kinda funny if it was true.
I don’t think Winston is johns farther but probably the man who brought John into the Roma cartel helped make him the man he was going to becomand then when winston went to the continental kept an eye on John. That’s why he’s always looked out for him. He’s more a farther figure than anything else.
All the references you mention are incredible. All the research that went into is great. Thanks for that. I loved it when I saw it even though I didn't catch many of the references. When I see it again, I'll watch it with a more enlightened perspective.
Alongside Dante's Inferno symbolism, the John Wick films also reflect the Five Stages of Grief. Chapter 1; Denial. Chapter 2; Anger. Chapter 3; Bargaining. Chapter 4; Depression and Acceptance.
this was probably one of the best breakdowns you guys have made. thank you so much for these videos. honestly, you guys do more than you know, thanks again for these amazing Heavy Spoilers.
Did anyone else notice how as John is walking down there stairs before he "dies", that his 2 bullet wounds are in the same exact position as the bullet wounds he gave to the doctor in part 3? "Right below my floating rib" and "please try not to graze my collar bone"...
This makes me think that his "death" is ambiguous. I think that the directors even mentioned in an interview that he may or may not come back in a sequel, should it be produced.
John was already dying from his injuries prior to the duel Caine had to help him make up the stairs. If anything maybe we'll get a prequel showing the night of his impossible task
I noticed how the marquis sucked his teaspoon and later shoved a piece of cake with his finger, which signifies that his "nobility" is fake and that he lacks the class the title "marquis" is supposed to imply.
Chapter 4 is bittersweet. On the one hand, it sucks that this is the last. However on the other hand, it made a perfect character arc. Also pays homage to the "quit while you're on top" saying. Which leaves the story being told amazing & memorable for such. Vs being memorable for dragging on well past it's prime. (Looking at you Saw & Fast & Furious... lol). Chapter 4 was the best out of all the films personally. It had all the good from 1, 2, and 3. Cranked up to 11 with some goodies sprinkled on top. Not to mention, while John himself is dead. The franchise as a whole is not. Stahelski & team did an AMAZING job fleshing out this world to allow many new & cool stories to thrive from. And yes, the top down Dragon's Breath fight was 10/10 chef's kiss. The best action sequence in many many years. The cinematography & choreography were on point. And the fact that 90% of it was one take was the cherry on top. I've gone back to watch that scene many times over since it's pure eye candy and enjoyment. I REALLY hope they don't pull a "Fast" and bring John back later on with some cheesy plot device just for the sake of making money. It would cheapen the story told and would be a HUGE disservice to Stahelski, Reeves, and team. We all know Lionsgate is going to try their hardest to entice it. I just hope they tell them off. Let John rest in peace with his wife.
@@GazahSCD unless it comes from Chad's own mouth. Take that announcement with a mountain of salt my guy. That announcement was just Lionsgate being hopeful and giving fans hope despite both Chad & Keanu specifically saying otherwise lol
Morning. I do enjoy your breakdowns - it's nice to get a sense of the underlying themes and influences. Makes me appreciate films even more. Thank you.
I really enjoy your breakdowns of the movies and shows you cover. Between you, New Rockstars and Ryan Arie and Doug I’m learning a lot about movies that I didn’t always pick up on. It’s awesome! Thank you
I truly believethis film is worthy of a best cinematography nomination for Oscars and I know action movies don't get recognized or have campaigns for that but this film was visual masterclass in action and absolutely stunning to behold my jaw dropped multiple times watching this mayhem and tye level of skill on display deserves a top level award.
I always thought it was odd that Caine got 4 nines especially after John received a 'dead mans hand'. I am by no means an expert or even an amateur but I like cards and how people have found meanings behind different card combinations. Regular playing cards have a lot of similarities to tarot cards. Tarot card readings is all a bit of interpretation mixed with fakery but in one way to see getting 4 nines means "good friends". It could also mean to "review and reflect on the consequences of their actions". Could be an subtle hint/easter egg towards Caine's true inner struggle to do what he wants to do versus what the high table is forcing him to do.
For whoever is interested in the translation of the french song: Les Amants Du Dimanche lyrics by Lucienne Delyle SUNDAY LOVERS All Sunday Lovers Don't have the heart to joke Because in the week there is only one Sunday It's not much to love each other And above all, it quickly passed Monday Tuesday Wednesday, “Come to the noon meeting, Hurry up to kiss me, Quick, quick the bell will ring And it's always See you tomorrow my love See you tomorrow sweethart For one hour All Sunday Lovers Have no place to love each other That's too much love for a Sunday They don't have time to pick it up Because a Sunday goes by quickly Yes, but one fine day Fly, fly and sing my love For a Sunday in Meudon Fly, fly and spin my song I did like them I acted like the happy ones I already loved you And There you go And There you go All Sunday Lovers
With that smirk from Laurence Fishburne at the end regarding where John is now, the glance from the dog (with the original script allegedly having the dog see John in the distance), and Lionsgate announcing John Wick 5 this morning.... I'd say there's a strong chance Wick is alive ... this "gravestone" and duel death / freedom was all so that he could have freedom from both the civilized/normal world, as well as from the Table. Thoughts? Unless they're going all Jason Bourne / 007 with this and just giving someone else the John Wick mantle moving forward...which I would absolutely hate.
Great video! This may already have been mentioned in the comments, but John branding his forearm with a red hot pot will be a reference to the TV series Kung Fu. There are probably several other references to Kung Fu in John Wick 4 - the main character in the TV series was called Caine.
Pretty good analysis minus one thing. Dragon's breath is a legitimate round for shotguns that has been available in America for purchase for quite some time. It was a thing long before this movie. It was pretty cool to see it used for symbolism in the film though.
My hypothesis as to why snipers don't just post themselves near staircase or cathedral for the ambush is that assassins need to claim the kill for the 40 million reward by killing John up close with witnesses.
Yeah if you shoot him like 400 yards away in a building by the time you get to his body somebody else will have claimed it or even kill you as you get close
I think John Wick may still be alive because the name John Wick that’s written on his tombstone isn’t his real name, his real name is Jardani Jovonovich.
I wouldn't mind if he was like it's okay if there are no more movies but atleast give reference in the wick verse that he lived and is finally living a retired life
@@bassblowbackrecords8932 I think that’s one of the “reference” you’re talking about. The post credit scene also suggest that there may be a part 5 and there can’t be a “John Wick” 5 if John Wick is dead, I mean its literally the movie’s name. But I agree with your reply.
@@Pancake374Or sadly... a John Wick 5 could be a John Wick movie prequel, i.e. Him in his prime. So John Wick can be dead and we can still have a John Wick 5 movie. Either way, I think we can be sure we are the winner!
I always thought that Winston was John Wicks father. I don’t know if his “Farewell, my son” is a confirmation of that or that it’s just the reference to someone he thought of a son (just something an elder would say).
I loved the overhead one-take scene. Had a very nostalgic vibe to it from those old top-scrolling shooter games. I also loved the Akira character: badass, a family person (like John), bound by honor, and hot.
The Incendiary Shotgun is a weapon from Keanu Reeve's movie Constantine.... there's also a magical weapon in the Constantine movie called Dragon's Breath. Pls get your references correct.
Dragon's Breath rounds are a real thing, BTW. They're also a thing in Shadowrun, although those are obviously significantly more deadly than their IRL counterparts. One cool thing about shotguns is that there's all kinds of crazy ammo for them. Incendiary, buckshot tracers, bolo rounds, fletchettes, titanium sabots, you name it.
Now, don't get me wrong. I don't wanna get my hopes up. But I just wanna point something out. In the final scene where the King & Winston is talking, King is caring for John's dog. In the final scene, after Winston says 'Who knows?' and the camera pans to the dog who's ears perk up and turns to look in a direction. Something had got his attention. And my theory is that Winston made it possible to make everyone think John's dead, when in reality he helped John who just most likely went unconscious due to blood loss just so John can keep living just as his wife intended when leaving him the first dog. Maybe I'm getting a tad Gen Z and wishing an arc to never die, but at the same time I just enjoy spitting out conspiracy theories!
Great breakdown!! I learn a lot from what you say about movies. I was hoping you might be thinking of doing a Warrior's breakdown since it's such a classic... Once again you are 1 of my favorites beside Eric Voss that I enjoy to watch breakdowns.Thanks again for all your hard work you really make them movies make sense to me. I really appreciate it!!
I think I noticed Caine pulling or positioning guys away from stairs or walking paths prior to knocking them out. He wanted to a valid tripping over them later.
John seems to make the decision to sacrifice himself for Caine even before the duel started. As if these sentences would work as a hint on how they should end the duel, and Caine agreed "those who cling to death, live" but "those who cling to life, die.
OP and OG actors in 1 epic movie, Sanada made thousands of samurai movies in japan, Yen thousand of kungfu movies even before hollywood, and Reeves loved him since Speed!
Cain deflects akira shooting hand and the bullet hits cain’s daughter. Cain and akira now are trying to kill each but eventually have to team up to kill a common enemy. Working together form a father daughter relationship and after they kill the the common enemy they let each other walk away. Thus ending the cycle of eye for an eye. Boom a hbo max show.
Loved your breakdown man! My take is John was really the WORST FRIEND EVER! From having a beloved friend die protecting him and everyone even linked to him suffers or dies up until the final moment where he involves his best friend into a deadly duel to the death.
That's why you never carry pictures or display them in common areas of your home & never at work ... just saying Oh unless they are pictures of enemies lol
Hindsight is 20/20 and though The Matrix 1 is an almost perfect film. the John Wick film series (1 to 4) is superior as a whole to The Matrix film series (1 to 4).
Caine and John shot each other in the same spot in the arm which was obv symbolic, but what is more important and could just be symbolic or a sign hes still alive; the other two places John is shot are the exact same two places that the Doctor (in Ch. 3) told John to shoot him so he wouldn’t die
There is one detail that I liked. Before the duel, Caine cuts John´s right hand forcing Jhon to shoot left handed. That´s an important advantage to Caine.
I think it has more to do with paying debt than Caine having advantage. If you remember, the same thing happened to the leader of Ruska Roma in Chapter 3, when she helped John because he had a ticket. The high table punished her with blade stab through the hands. And also, Wick says to Caine "we're even now" after he stabbed John through his hand. But it can very well be the combination of both.
you didn't mention how the marquiz came close to winston showing how tall the marquiz really is. i think it symbolizes how much power he wields compared to a continental manager
Thoroughly enjoy your breakdowns! They're widespread and encompass so many genres it makes one want to watch the movie again to experience it with new eyes.
@@detroitdiezel7856 Frenchy makes a reference to it in the film, something to the effect of "he's already pushing boundaries by skirting the rules" regarding his daughter.
Thoroughly enjoyed this video and we appreciate you sharing all the great little “Easter eggs” throughout the movie. John Wick 4 is hands down, the greatest action movie we’ve seen in the last 10, possibly 20 years. 🙏🏻🍿🎦
Well said, Paul, JW4 had a LOT in it, packed in to those 2+ hours. Worth nearly every minute, even Skaarsgard hamming it up en francais. Overall, easily #2 in the series, right behind the OG in it's quality and drive. Didn't mind the ending, the stairs scene had me and the missus scratching our heads and chuckling about how implausible it was to fall down 100+ steps and get back up and make it on time... very outlandish, but fit in perfectly with the rest of these movies and with Keanu's character. Glad he got a relatively peaceful send-off and I DO HOPE they don't bring him back.
Yeah just been rewatching it and you can easily break this movie up into parts. Interesting they based some of it on GOT as it could easily work as a high budget tv show I think.
I dunno, I think it's tied with 3 for me as the best. The choreography in 3, especially including the dogs, was so good I literally sobbed. I have never seen choreography so good that I cried a bit out of pure elation, but somehow 3 did that to me. And the five-minute uninterrupted top-down section of 4 had a similar effect. It was like straight out of Hotline Miami, being able to see on either sides of walls and all of that.
John is not dead. He needs to kill high table and what better way to do that if they think you are dead. Plus in part 3 he wounds the doctor when time runs out in places that would not be fatal. The same places John is wounded by Cain. Go watch it.
Because of what Winston says in Russian at the gravestone? I mean, it could be a more unofficial kind of thing, like a son in spirit. I dunno. You could be right, though.
I theorized Winston could be his father in law..the Marquis states they are all orphans and brought in under the table.def something more to the relationship though.
@@heavyspoilers I also just found out (5 days later) that Koji means little brother so you are right for Caine and Abel story as biblically Caine was older…
It's not bullets falling out of his jacket, that's the sound of the empty brass casings from fired cartridges. It's still a great detail, because when you shoot a lot, the spent casings always end in your pockets and all kinds of random places.
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I have a mil intel background and am familiar with the world inhabited in this franchise. If you would like a few insights into some... let me know.
For now, that world is ancient and so well woven into the fabric of society, from the very lowest to the very highest, making it invisible to most.
What about episode 8???
9 circles of self-pity, because he did choose the path himself. He was not forced into all of it.
You're stretching with the dragons breath segment. Dragons breath rounds have been around before the GoT tv show.
you missed the reference with the shot pattern to John at the end... the same places the Dr asked to be shot that were NON LEATHAL in previous John Wick movie... Thus making it Very likely he is still alive... After all how dose one kill death? Second there was a lot of reference to the high table needing to be taken out by Wick himself, the painting shows Libery winning over dictatorship.. not one of their Hench men ( who was noted as eaisily replaceible several times thus making Johns victory hollow indeed if he truly is dead) ... as you said take one head out some on is just as quick to replace it... Unless you kill all of them.. His family and friends are back on his side and Cain was an Obvious reference to the tables trinary... He owed no favours and should not have been called back in let alone manipulated with his daughter... John should have never have even had to "Win" his freedom as he was already free... Thus proving the tables word is now worthless and another reason why John would need to stay around to replace them... He would know that, he helped no one if he ends here knowing this Duel is by no means over and they said several times the results of this "Shake the very pillars and foundations of the table." This the would not be willing to leave anything as it was knowing it would bring their authority and very existence into question... after all the villan here was said to be a pooling of all their power and wealth thus being a perfect axanple of them and how one rule for thee and one for me is also of the tables thinking not just his.. lastly last time in the ending of three he did not escape death so much as survive, this time would be the first he faked his death therfore going underground and breaking the rules rather then play by them as he did fairly up untill the end of the third movie... thus he has now become the enemy of the table rather then the loyel dog he himself has been up untill now.. i see a parellel between serving adn the dogs asasins and himself.. that or the direcotr jsut really freeking loves dogs lol .
*I like how the high table soldiers* weren’t just simple red shirts.. the samurai, armoured triggermen held their own and one even was blocking bullets with his gauntlets.. and the guys in grey suits gave John a run for his money.
A hero’s only as good as the villains he fights
Pleasurable Agony - well.. that doesn’t really apply here.. Bill Skarsgard wasn’t that great of a villain - - im just talking about the henchmen
with the oni masks on 🔥
@@firstlast9846 Nah, I think the actor did a fine job portraying the villain as a corrupt psychopath, and ultimately, a dishonest coward. He's not a villain that poses any physical danger to the hero. He sends others to do his bidding for him. He really sold the qualities that make him a villain, in my opinion.
I wasn't a fan of Alexander's accent, but i understand what they were going for. He's supposed to represent the upper class king who thinks he knows everything, but he's actually an ignorant fool
I'm gonna have to rewatch to be sure, but it seemed to me that Caine was going out of his way not to kill anyone during the attack on the Osaka Continental. I don't think he killed anyone until he absolutely had to kill Shimazu, and he even made a point of giving him a chance to leave. So his heart was not in it at all anymore. Doing the absolute bare minimum to ensure his daughter's safety.
I agree. We're left with the assumption the group he started fighting first, he didn't kill, just incapacitated them. I felt he held out to the very last second to engage. Even with the Wick fight I couldn't help to hear Scarlet Witch say "your pulling your punches" to Hawkeye...
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so youre saying he was quiet quitting
@@disp3rsion hard to know isn't it...hard to know what's going on in the real world let alone anywhere in any films!!!!!
You are right. The fight where he killed the father he told them tell me where he is and take your daughter and go. After they first started fighting and the first stab he said go take your daughter and protect her. The father then continued to attack that led to his demise. Heck he was eating soup not taking part in most of the beginning fights until directed to get involved. So yeah he didn’t want to do this at all and gave plenty of chances.
The whole Osaka fight was incredible, and gave me heavy Cyberpunk vibes. Hands down the best John Wick film to date.
No
That's debatable
Best in terms of action. 1 is still the best overall
Honestly, yeah. I got huge Cyberpunk vibes from the whole Osaka building. The style, his voice, everything. JW1 is still my favorite, but JW4 is a close second, and that's mostly due to Osaka and the fight there. That said, my favorite fight was actually the top-down view fight on his way to the church.
YESSSS I HAD THAT FEEL TOO
Caine telling the Marquis to "f*ck off" made me laugh so hard I almost feel off my stool.
Great moment
How fast the responded, and the way he said it was GOLDEN.
Why were you watching JW4 sitting on a stool you psycho.
Gives you the moment, “Yeah! Screw you, Marquis, and your little French wiener!”
I noticed that during the duel John had with Caine. He shot Caine in almost the same location the doctor got shot in JW3. It’s almost as if John was letting Caine know where to hit him so that he wouldn’t die.
You stole that from Film Theory's channel... unoriginal
They were all non-lethal shots, of course.
@@TheRoadhammer379 calling people out for supposedly not an original thought without proof. You think Film Theory has all original thoughts? Interesting. Oh, and using your word, unoriginal.
@@tankdrivingmuttapparently two people are incapable of having the same thought.
@@cotati76 Apparently.
I'm a 67 year old woman who watched the 4 John Wick movies this weekend, for the first time. Loved them, and loved this commentary! Especially loved the overhead filmed fight scene! I caught a few of the Easter eggs and foreshadowing while watching Chapter 4. Probably need to watch it again.
You go, girl! Keep watching those awesome movies! Never too old to enjoy some action!
You should check out the making of John wick 1. It shows him learning how to drive the car so every scene you see John driving the car that’s really him and not a stunt double. You also hear them call the fighting style John uses “gun-fu”. Glad you love the movies. Welcome to the club. It’ll only cost you one gold coin to join the club.
Caine was such a great character. I thought I wouldn't vibe with him because of how blatantly dumb it is that a blind man could be even an inconvenience, much less a threat, to John, but he was so well written and acted that I totally bought it.
Unless u walk on grass barefoot more than once a week...dont say vibe my guy
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@@qram281unless your looking to tongue dive men's asses, don't use my guy
@@qram281You know how stupid you sound especially when you type with “u”? Come on man
donnie yen is a national treasure
Are you serious? In a world where almost everyone is an assassin, where a man can tank hits many times and still walk, a blind man who can fight is to much? Gtfo
the bullets falling off the jackets is an insane detail i never would have thought off and makes the buulet proof jacket feel alittle more real, bullets dont bounce off but instead gets embedded into the jacket,and that make wick more badass cause that means he feels the pain from every bullet that hits him which is alot and he is still going. picture a cop getting hit with the vest. some fall down from the bullet impact
My cousin got shot at and broke his sapi plate in half. Even with Kevlar or steel armor. It will hurt like hell no matter what.
@@imaXkillXya sounds like empty shells vs lead bullets is it established lore in this franchises universe that they r bullet proof suits?
It happens when he the priest blasts him when he goes to get help from Katia's crew as well. They stand him up and all the shotgun pellets fall out.
@@TheRealBatCave yes it's established in the franchise. IIRC, Chapter 2 introduced the "bullet proof" suit. It's been used more and more each film.
@TheRealBatCave the sommelier explains it really quickly
I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the fact that in the overhead single take scene the music uses the same music that plays in the Red Circle Nightclub scene from the first movie. It’s a cool coming full circle moment for the franchise.
Yes, i was amazed that they didn't mentioned that, also I think they used like 1 song from each movie for that scene
They did mention that in the video
Also an somewhat intentional reference to Hotline Miami.
Dude... I was so sad and happy for John when he asked if they could just take him home. Right after everything that he had done for his freedom and passed away (if hes dead) in peace. also when he saved the dog that got me.
It hurt seeing Winston's eyes grow red...
"Farewell, my son.."
He loved him.
@@djsnobodycares6065 yes man !
@@nissanzenkiboy that's when he realized... John is dying... he was genuinely saddened.
I'm sorry, Boogeyman...
Whew! So glad to hear He saved the dog...okay now I have to watch it again because I skipped most of the dog action scenes!
@@elleadolls7283 dog scenes were the highlight. John has the dogs owner dead to rights, about to execute him when he notices someone else is about to kill the dog. Instead of killing the owner, he turns and kills the person attacking the dog and runs away.
Later, the owner has a chance to kill John for $40 million but right when he has John in his sights, the dog whines and gives him puppy dog eyes and convinces him to help John instead.
So John saved the dog, then the dog saved John in return.
One of the best films of the year and this is the Farewell that Wick deserves. Amazing action and drection. Hope to get a Kane Film because Donnie shined here. Can't wait for the show and Ballerina and seeing Lance's final performance with the latter RIP.
You need to get out to the theater more.
@@detroitdiezel7856 You need to. This, Creed III And Missing are amazing.
@@louisberry4403 16:36
@@louisberry4403 uh.... no. No they're not!👎
@@detroitdiezel7856 Across The Spider-Verse is now The Movie Of The Year.
Notice that when Wick shot someone, he always went for a head shot, against Cain they were never head shot. Neither did Cain. Made me think neither was interested in killing each other but waiting for Wick to finish the Marquis and each getting their freedom.
I agree, if they'd wanted to kill each other it would've happened on the first shot.
They were counting on the Marquis's ego to show up, since he wanted to be the one to deliver the coup de grace to John Wick, thus increasing his reputation in the High Table.
As impressive as Caine’s skills are, I doubt he can get a perfect headshot with consistency. He’s still blind.
@@acgearsandarms1343 "I am with the force and the force is with me"
@@acgearsandarms1343didn't he shoot multiple people during that card scene with Scott Adkins?
Military wearing watches on the inside of the wrist has less to do with reading the time whilst aiming, and more to do with preventing reflections of light off the watch face.
It's certainly primarily for the glare but the watch facing up is definitely a bonus that I'm sure is very helpful
You can also add that it protect the watch from getting bumped to rocks/branches that could crack the watch
Had to check for this comment before I said something. 100%
I disagree. I carried a SAW and there was no way I'm one-handing that to look at my watch.
@@pfcspencer11b you could always switch arm were u wearing the watch so u have it on the arm that hold the "forward grip"
Good video. Lots of interesting details.
Regarding Caine giving up his eyes, it may just be my head cannon, but I assumed it had to do with keeping his daughter safe but still wanting to be able to get as close to her as possible. Assuming, like Sophia, that part of the deal with getting out was “You can never see her again” which he took literally. Now, no contact was also part of the deal, but while it’s skirting the line, he can go and hear her play.
Him wearing blackout contact lenses and nonseethrough glasses each time he went to see her would have worked too)
@@vitaliyred622 Yes, but wouldn’t be nearly as dramatic 🙂
My theory for Caine is that he lost his eyes during a particular war, and he gave them in service of his country. The assassin life came later and likely he had no one to lose, so accepting a contract that said "you take a life or we take a life" was simple - at worst they'd kill him. Then he had a daughter and now that contract is more complicated. He didn't realize he could be called back so many years later.
Why do I think this? Because he's a biblical allegory and this movie is full of them. The caravaggio painting they go by in the Subway tipped me off and then once you start to see the biblical stuff it really just pops out. This is historical and cultural in Paris, so don't take the religion part too seriously - this just narrative symmetry.
Caine is Longinus. Not Cane who killed his brother, that's a dirty trick the movie plays to subvert expectation.
Longinus stabbed christ in the liver - exactly where Caine shot John's killing blow.
Longinus used a lance - Caine, if you use the latin l instead of an i, can be anagramed to "Lance". He uses a cane that hides a sword - which are two parts to a lance. The real clincher though? Longinus was blind.
Cane after killing Abel was blessed with a long life and allowed to make a new one without threats of enemies - but Caine, in the after credits scene is attacked. Caine also calls John his brother, but Cane killed Abel due to jealousy over god's grace. He doesn't fit as Cane.
He cut John's hand just before the duel on his left hand to cover his tracks, but also, because that's one of the sacred wounds of christ.
There's more too, once you recognize the biblical allegory they're going for this film - it's everywhere. It's just foreshadowing John coming back, but also, every other character is wrapped up in it. The church they go to at the duel was made for the sacred heart of christ and was built after a war to ensure the moral center of Paris would be renewed. John chose this place and as such, he knew what its virtues meant.
Longinus was a Roman Centurion and a Pagan who converted - to me this suggests Caine's eyes were lost in a war. He says he gave them but I somehow doubt it was to the table and if it was, it was likely given in service to something more than just a murder contract. He seems so proud of it and I doubt he was coerced.
But who knows.
@@vitaliyred622and far less painful.
*Canon, not cannon
I personally would have hated if Akira killed Caine. He tried to spare Koji. I understand it was honor that kept him fighting but still, Caine clearly didn't want to kill him and she even seen that. I'd love to see so much more in this universe.
16:40 I loved the fact that first you can see john dont have that much experience with nunchacks so he starts it easy by just hitting with them like everybody would, and as the fight continues he keeps getting more skilled with the weapon and at the end he is making those sweet looking moves that people who knows how to handle this weapon makes. :D
You know I highly doubt that John Wick is dead since it's been established in Chapter 3 in the Doctor scene, where you place bulletholes when you wanna make them seem realistic while also being non-lethal. You can also see this in the places where Caine and John shot eachother in the duel.
As much as I really want John to come back, this ending is really great and perfect for him, he's finally free and reunited with Helen and Daisy
I think the name and persona of John wick is dead but not the actual person I feel like for some reason he’ll have to come back but he’s not dead the people that know him as John wick is dead they already confirmed a 5th one because the 4th did so good money talks and they made plenty
I hate the idea that they'll bring him back. It was such a fitting end for him. Besides, what would he have to live for afterward anyways. He's free, but his wife and dog are dead. He doesn't have any skills suitable for civilian life.
To address the wounds he got as not being fatal, don't forget the role exhaustion plays. He had spent the whole night fighting for his life. Make someone tired enough, and wounds that would otherwise be survivable can become fatal. Some of the most brutal execution methods of antiquity operated on this principle.
@@VTdarkangel Sure. But this movie is all in all really symbolic. Many details I found in this movie were really thoughtfully placed. Such as the shot wounds. There are many reasons for me to believe that Wick is not physically dead. He might not be the main protagonist of the next movie (even though it is called JW 5 from some not so credible sources), but I think the "death" of John Wick is more symbolic than anything else. It is about the persona not the person.
Not sure if you've covered this possible link with the previous movies, but I liked the ambiguous scene at the end with Winston where he lays a hand on John`s gravestone revealing the Ruska Roma tattoo on his wrist and says, "Farewell my son." This posing the question, is Winston John`s biological father? What history does Winston have with the Roma cartel? Did he leave the family behind to run the hotel? Does the cartel run the hotel? Who is John`s mother? 🤯 Love the channel guys!
I had these same thoughts after the movie and brought it up to my wife. I havent heard anyone else mention that and I am very surprised this comment isn't higher up seeing as that would be a very important detail.
Didn't they release some kind of prequel in the form of comics?
Came here for this too XD I mean, him saying 'my son' did mildly get my attention, but the way they zoomed in on the tattoo did make me go... no, he's... is Winston his father?? He is an orphan after all... It'd be kinda funny if it was true.
I don’t think Winston is johns farther but probably the man who brought John into the Roma cartel helped make him the man he was going to becomand then when winston went to the continental kept an eye on John. That’s why he’s always looked out for him. He’s more a farther figure than anything else.
It also seemed fatherly that Winston always called John Johnathon like a parent would do. But could very well just see John like a son.
All the references you mention are incredible. All the research that went into is great. Thanks for that. I loved it when I saw it even though I didn't catch many of the references. When I see it again, I'll watch it with a more enlightened perspective.
ey thank you so much
Alongside Dante's Inferno symbolism, the John Wick films also reflect the Five Stages of Grief.
Chapter 1; Denial.
Chapter 2; Anger.
Chapter 3; Bargaining.
Chapter 4; Depression and Acceptance.
this was probably one of the best breakdowns you guys have made. thank you so much for these videos.
honestly, you guys do more than you know, thanks again for these amazing Heavy Spoilers.
Did anyone else notice how as John is walking down there stairs before he "dies", that his 2 bullet wounds are in the same exact position as the bullet wounds he gave to the doctor in part 3? "Right below my floating rib" and "please try not to graze my collar bone"...
Exactly!
This makes me think that his "death" is ambiguous. I think that the directors even mentioned in an interview that he may or may not come back in a sequel, should it be produced.
Caine survived with almost the same wounds
John was already dying from his injuries prior to the duel Caine had to help him make up the stairs. If anything maybe we'll get a prequel showing the night of his impossible task
@@chrissuponcic6277 I’ve heard some rumor of the sequel being an alternative ending but I’d prefer the impossible task so long as it’s with keanu
I noticed how the marquis sucked his teaspoon and later shoved a piece of cake with his finger, which signifies that his "nobility" is fake and that he lacks the class the title "marquis" is supposed to imply.
I love these breakdowns! His goofiness always gets me, even if it's corny 😂
Especially the insert of Sam from Lord of the Rings shouting, "Reeeeach!" 😂😅😂😅😂
Chapter 4 is bittersweet.
On the one hand, it sucks that this is the last. However on the other hand, it made a perfect character arc. Also pays homage to the "quit while you're on top" saying. Which leaves the story being told amazing & memorable for such. Vs being memorable for dragging on well past it's prime. (Looking at you Saw & Fast & Furious... lol).
Chapter 4 was the best out of all the films personally. It had all the good from 1, 2, and 3. Cranked up to 11 with some goodies sprinkled on top. Not to mention, while John himself is dead. The franchise as a whole is not. Stahelski & team did an AMAZING job fleshing out this world to allow many new & cool stories to thrive from.
And yes, the top down Dragon's Breath fight was 10/10 chef's kiss. The best action sequence in many many years. The cinematography & choreography were on point. And the fact that 90% of it was one take was the cherry on top. I've gone back to watch that scene many times over since it's pure eye candy and enjoyment.
I REALLY hope they don't pull a "Fast" and bring John back later on with some cheesy plot device just for the sake of making money. It would cheapen the story told and would be a HUGE disservice to Stahelski, Reeves, and team. We all know Lionsgate is going to try their hardest to entice it. I just hope they tell them off. Let John rest in peace with his wife.
He's not dead, chapter 5 is in production. To further clarify, John was shot in the same areas that the doctor in chapter 3 was requested to be shot.
@GazahSCD That's what I was thinking too, he'd bled there before so what's different now
@@GazahSCD unless it comes from Chad's own mouth. Take that announcement with a mountain of salt my guy.
That announcement was just Lionsgate being hopeful and giving fans hope despite both Chad & Keanu specifically saying otherwise lol
@@Peylix it’s up to Hollywood if they want a John wick 5 to be made or not😂 so yea they def making a 5th one
@@Peylix Chad and Keanu simply said they don’t know if John Wick was really dead
Morning. I do enjoy your breakdowns - it's nice to get a sense of the underlying themes and influences. Makes me appreciate films even more. Thank you.
John sitting and waiting for the train is so Matrix 🥺
I thought same😂
Definitely a nod to matrix. There's also the way he's hitting the guy in the rain in the club, very like the final fight scene in matrix 3
I really enjoy your breakdowns of the movies and shows you cover. Between you, New Rockstars and Ryan Arie and Doug I’m learning a lot about movies that I didn’t always pick up on. It’s awesome! Thank you
I truly believethis film is worthy of a best cinematography nomination for Oscars and I know action movies don't get recognized or have campaigns for that but this film was visual masterclass in action and absolutely stunning to behold my jaw dropped multiple times watching this mayhem and tye level of skill on display deserves a top level award.
I always thought it was odd that Caine got 4 nines especially after John received a 'dead mans hand'. I am by no means an expert or even an amateur but I like cards and how people have found meanings behind different card combinations. Regular playing cards have a lot of similarities to tarot cards. Tarot card readings is all a bit of interpretation mixed with fakery but in one way to see getting 4 nines means "good friends". It could also mean to "review and reflect on the consequences of their actions". Could be an subtle hint/easter egg towards Caine's true inner struggle to do what he wants to do versus what the high table is forcing him to do.
For whoever is interested in the translation of the french song:
Les Amants Du Dimanche lyrics by Lucienne Delyle
SUNDAY LOVERS
All Sunday Lovers
Don't have the heart to joke
Because in the week there is only one Sunday
It's not much to love each other
And above all, it quickly passed
Monday Tuesday Wednesday,
“Come to the noon meeting,
Hurry up to kiss me,
Quick, quick the bell will ring
And it's always
See you tomorrow my love
See you tomorrow sweethart
For one hour
All Sunday Lovers
Have no place to love each other
That's too much love for a Sunday
They don't have time to pick it up
Because a Sunday goes by quickly
Yes, but one fine day
Fly, fly and sing my love
For a Sunday in Meudon
Fly, fly and spin my song
I did like them
I acted like the happy ones
I already loved you
And There you go
And There you go
All Sunday Lovers
Its funny how nobody talks about John Wick's special secret skills: immunity to high-speed impacts from cars.
With that smirk from Laurence Fishburne at the end regarding where John is now, the glance from the dog (with the original script allegedly having the dog see John in the distance), and Lionsgate announcing John Wick 5 this morning.... I'd say there's a strong chance Wick is alive ... this "gravestone" and duel death / freedom was all so that he could have freedom from both the civilized/normal world, as well as from the Table. Thoughts?
Unless they're going all Jason Bourne / 007 with this and just giving someone else the John Wick mantle moving forward...which I would absolutely hate.
Non-lethal shots + no dates on the stone... I see JW5 in the near future
Great video! This may already have been mentioned in the comments, but John branding his forearm with a red hot pot will be a reference to the TV series Kung Fu. There are probably several other references to Kung Fu in John Wick 4 - the main character in the TV series was called Caine.
These breakdowns makes John Wick Chapter 4 my favorite movie more rewatchable!
Thank you
Yep, I've rewatched john wick 4 umpteenth of times only for keanu fcuking reeves.
Facts our favorite spoiler man definitely made these movies even better with his breakdowns
Pretty good analysis minus one thing. Dragon's breath is a legitimate round for shotguns that has been available in America for purchase for quite some time. It was a thing long before this movie. It was pretty cool to see it used for symbolism in the film though.
The thing with dragon's breath is the font used for the ammo box
Just watched this wild ride for the first time, great timing. Well crafted video friend 👍🏼
My hypothesis as to why snipers don't just post themselves near staircase or cathedral for the ambush is that assassins need to claim the kill for the 40 million reward by killing John up close with witnesses.
Yeah if you shoot him like 400 yards away in a building by the time you get to his body somebody else will have claimed it or even kill you as you get close
Yea it’s the only sort of logical way to get around that question. I go with it too.
Two guys, that trust eachother, solves that problem. It's "movie magic," stop analyzing it so deeply... it's not meant to be sussed out.
Quite possibly the theory would work as:
Shoot target
Take picture of dead body
Send picture to _____.
You could be right and also it’s a movie and it wouldn’t be as interesting if somebody just sniped John from a distance and the movie just ended😂
I think John Wick may still be alive because the name John Wick that’s written on his tombstone isn’t his real name, his real name is Jardani Jovonovich.
I wouldn't mind if he was like it's okay if there are no more movies but atleast give reference in the wick verse that he lived and is finally living a retired life
@@bassblowbackrecords8932 I think that’s one of the “reference” you’re talking about. The post credit scene also suggest that there may be a part 5 and there can’t be a “John Wick” 5 if John Wick is dead, I mean its literally the movie’s name. But I agree with your reply.
@@Pancake374Or sadly... a John Wick 5 could be a John Wick movie prequel, i.e. Him in his prime. So John Wick can be dead and we can still have a John Wick 5 movie. Either way, I think we can be sure we are the winner!
Non-lethal shots + no dates on the stone... I see JW5 in the near future
Caine is the real "Baba Yaga". Dude was untouchable even without his eyes which he sacrificed voluntarily. Imagine when he could actually see.
Before removing his eyes he was Ip Man! Lol
Love how Cain (IP Man) punches the guard. A montage to his films! 😂
I always thought that Winston was John Wicks father. I don’t know if his “Farewell, my son” is a confirmation of that or that it’s just the reference to someone he thought of a son (just something an elder would say).
Thats some really cool GoT easter eggs you told us about. The Dracaris incendiary rounds are really cool
I loved the overhead one-take scene. Had a very nostalgic vibe to it from those old top-scrolling shooter games. I also loved the Akira character: badass, a family person (like John), bound by honor, and hot.
Winston’s gonna go to a Paris cafe one day and see John with a nice woman. They’ll look at each other from across the tables and nod
Batman?
Great breakdown of a fantastic movie! Keep'em coming, chump!
Excellent commentary and well coordinated with the video clips. Appreciated for sure, TED
this movie was the best one to date. i enjoyed all the action in it and i actually cried when wick died. my mom would have loved it as well.
The Incendiary Shotgun is a weapon from Keanu Reeve's movie Constantine.... there's also a magical weapon in the Constantine movie called Dragon's Breath. Pls get your references correct.
Enjoyed this movie. 😎
Thank you Paul.
Much appreciated thank you
Fun fact: Keanu also played Constantine and in that movie he also had "Dragon's Breath"
Dragon's Breath rounds are a real thing, BTW. They're also a thing in Shadowrun, although those are obviously significantly more deadly than their IRL counterparts.
One cool thing about shotguns is that there's all kinds of crazy ammo for them. Incendiary, buckshot tracers, bolo rounds, fletchettes, titanium sabots, you name it.
2:45 This is perfect! one of my favorite anime’s and I didn’t catch this! JW4 is now my fav of the JW movies.
Now, don't get me wrong. I don't wanna get my hopes up. But I just wanna point something out.
In the final scene where the King & Winston is talking, King is caring for John's dog. In the final scene, after Winston says 'Who knows?' and the camera pans to the dog who's ears perk up and turns to look in a direction. Something had got his attention. And my theory is that Winston made it possible to make everyone think John's dead, when in reality he helped John who just most likely went unconscious due to blood loss just so John can keep living just as his wife intended when leaving him the first dog. Maybe I'm getting a tad Gen Z and wishing an arc to never die, but at the same time I just enjoy spitting out conspiracy theories!
I thought the same too when I was on the theater, but the very next scene is in front of the two and no one is there, not even in the background
John wick 5 has been announced an is in the works
Totally agree. Non-lethal shots + no dates on the stone... I see JW5 in the near future
I watch alot of reviews and spoilers, but you always have insights and research that I really appreciate putting you above and beyond.
I was surprisingly affected by the death of Charon. Didn't realize how much I had invested in that character.
Surprised you didnt mention how the lights behind Scott Atkins chair looks like the Iron Throne.
Even with the plot explained I can barely tell whats going on in this movie.
It’s fairly straight forward.. it’s literally spoon fed “We’re going here to do X so we can get to Y”
Just say you're slow 🐌
Awesome film. Definitely going to rewatch. Thanks for another great video! 🖤
I love the fact that Mr. Nobody wanted the reward for John to get to 50 million so he could buy the freedom of his dog that was 48.3 million
Well, in the end, Mr Nobody sits there to witness the lost of the 50 million dollar bounty if John is killed in the duel.
Great vid. I never knew what I had missed! Subbed.
I love John Wick because i thought good action movies where dead.
Great breakdown!! I learn a lot from what you say about movies. I was hoping you might be thinking of doing a Warrior's breakdown since it's such a classic... Once again you are 1 of my favorites beside Eric Voss that I enjoy to watch breakdowns.Thanks again for all your hard work you really make them movies make sense to me. I really appreciate it!!
I think I noticed Caine pulling or positioning guys away from stairs or walking paths prior to knocking them out. He wanted to a valid tripping over them later.
John Wick is something I don't think anyone will complain about you doing.
John seems to make the decision to sacrifice himself for Caine even before the duel started. As if these sentences would work as a hint on how they should end the duel, and Caine agreed "those who cling to death, live" but "those who cling to life, die.
OP and OG actors in 1 epic movie, Sanada made thousands of samurai movies in japan, Yen thousand of kungfu movies even before hollywood, and Reeves loved him since Speed!
John Wick not yet home.
John Wick is hiding in plain sight..
R.I.P. CHARON, FRIEND.
You did read through the comments of your previous posts and added them in here. Great job!
Cain deflects akira shooting hand and the bullet hits cain’s daughter. Cain and akira now are trying to kill each but eventually have to team up to kill a common enemy. Working together form a father daughter relationship and after they kill the the common enemy they let each other walk away. Thus ending the cycle of eye for an eye. Boom a hbo max show.
Nice job with the movie review. Thanks for taking the time to focus on the details. 👍
As a John Wick fan. I also want to see a stand alone movie of Caine.
Awesome job man !
Loved your breakdown man! My take is John was really the WORST FRIEND EVER! From having a beloved friend die protecting him and everyone even linked to him suffers or dies up until the final moment where he involves his best friend into a deadly duel to the death.
That's why you never carry pictures or display them in common areas of your home & never at work ... just saying
Oh unless they are pictures of enemies lol
Thank you! Big fan of the channel.
Hindsight is 20/20 and though The Matrix 1 is an almost perfect film. the John Wick film series (1 to 4) is superior as a whole to The Matrix film series (1 to 4).
Caine and John shot each other in the same spot in the arm which was obv symbolic, but what is more important and could just be symbolic or a sign hes still alive; the other two places John is shot are the exact same two places that the Doctor (in Ch. 3) told John to shoot him so he wouldn’t die
Sorry didnt realize film theory covered this apparently
There is one detail that I liked. Before the duel, Caine cuts John´s right hand forcing Jhon to shoot left handed. That´s an important advantage to Caine.
Brilliant catch
I think it has more to do with paying debt than Caine having advantage. If you remember, the same thing happened to the leader of Ruska Roma in Chapter 3, when she helped John because he had a ticket. The high table punished her with blade stab through the hands. And also, Wick says to Caine "we're even now" after he stabbed John through his hand. But it can very well be the combination of both.
Well, Caine is Blind
Absolutely love your videos and breakdowns. I always look forward to them. Incredible amount of attention to detail and research involved 👏🏻
you didn't mention how the marquiz came close to winston showing how tall the marquiz really is. i think it symbolizes how much power he wields compared to a continental manager
Really fantastic movie and awesome breakdown!!!!
Is it just me but isn’t Dragons Breath also an Easter Egg to the weapon Keanu uses in Constantine?
Really it was a great break down of John Wick 4. Thanks again!
love the series to death. Keanu is also pushing 60 so as great as he is, I think they should cap the franchise at 4
Thoroughly enjoy your breakdowns! They're widespread and encompass so many genres it makes one want to watch the movie again to experience it with new eyes.
Are we forgetting the dragon breath from Constantine...?
Had me dying with the "REEEACH"
Always the best
Cain took his own eyes because they said he couldn't SEE his daughter again.
I doubt that.
@@detroitdiezel7856 Frenchy makes a reference to it in the film, something to the effect of "he's already pushing boundaries by skirting the rules" regarding his daughter.
Thoroughly enjoyed this video and we appreciate you sharing all the great little “Easter eggs” throughout the movie. John Wick 4 is hands down, the greatest action movie we’ve seen in the last 10, possibly 20 years. 🙏🏻🍿🎦
"You arrogant a-hole, he didn't shoot"
The best line I've ever heard in any action movie.
With a Kevin from Wonder Years voiceover: "It was at that precise moment that Marquis realized he was irrevocably fucked!"
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Great video. I applaud the writers for keeping future options for stories open.
Well said, Paul, JW4 had a LOT in it, packed in to those 2+ hours. Worth nearly every minute, even Skaarsgard hamming it up en francais. Overall, easily #2 in the series, right behind the OG in it's quality and drive. Didn't mind the ending, the stairs scene had me and the missus scratching our heads and chuckling about how implausible it was to fall down 100+ steps and get back up and make it on time... very outlandish, but fit in perfectly with the rest of these movies and with Keanu's character. Glad he got a relatively peaceful send-off and I DO HOPE they don't bring him back.
UK here.. dunno why i always say that lol.. anyway, i like to see these as 1 big movie, not 1 2 3 4 jut john wick.. so good..
Yeah just been rewatching it and you can easily break this movie up into parts. Interesting they based some of it on GOT as it could easily work as a high budget tv show I think.
I dunno, I think it's tied with 3 for me as the best. The choreography in 3, especially including the dogs, was so good I literally sobbed. I have never seen choreography so good that I cried a bit out of pure elation, but somehow 3 did that to me. And the five-minute uninterrupted top-down section of 4 had a similar effect. It was like straight out of Hotline Miami, being able to see on either sides of walls and all of that.
They will.
John is not dead. He needs to kill high table and what better way to do that if they think you are dead. Plus in part 3 he wounds the doctor when time runs out in places that would not be fatal. The same places John is wounded by Cain.
Go watch it.
Bro I can't believe you missed that Winston is John's father.
Because of what Winston says in Russian at the gravestone? I mean, it could be a more unofficial kind of thing, like a son in spirit. I dunno. You could be right, though.
I theorized Winston could be his father in law..the Marquis states they are all orphans and brought in under the table.def something more to the relationship though.
Son in law*
That's because Winston isn't his father. Winston hasn't left New York since the 60s and John was born in another country
Love the amount of thought put in to this movie. I was very very entertained. Definitely seeing this a couple of more times
Literally just finished watching this, I will be checking out your review when I get back….
Did anyone notice the Matrix train station reference?
Ah nice catch, didn’t put it together
@@heavyspoilers I also just found out (5 days later) that Koji means little brother so you are right for Caine and Abel story as biblically Caine was older…
Excellent scene breakdown where you explain symbolisms, references and call backs.
It's not bullets falling out of his jacket, that's the sound of the empty brass casings from fired cartridges. It's still a great detail, because when you shoot a lot, the spent casings always end in your pockets and all kinds of random places.
I was going to mention this myself.
a slightly different way of looking at it and it's fantastic....nice one Paul.