Midwest Industries vs Ranger Point Precision
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- Hey guys! Thanks for dropping by. In today's video I give you my opinion on the Midwest and Ranger Point M-lok handguards for lever action rifles.
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"it's not some tactical gun you're going to put lasers on...."
Well, that's where I disagree with you. 😂😂😂
LOL
Every gun is a tactical gun, and every gun is a hunting gun.
I came to the comments section just for this comment
Ya heard
I waited for RPP to make one for my Model X, got it recently and now it’s being cerakoted along with my rifle. Can’t wait to get her back, space cowboy project has begun.
Got to see this
Awesome!
I just picked up the x model also and going to cerakote it 👍 making it like the all weather but cooler 😎
You can always put "grippy" covers on the M-lok slot and solve the slipping issue on the MW and there are some amazing ones to choose from (thank you AR15 market). BUT if you have large hands (ie long fingers) I agree the Ranger point seems the best choice
It depends if you want a sleek comfortable Midwest Industries handguard or do you want a rectangle box from Ranger Point.
LOL it's not as boxy as it looks.
Are you on the RPP payroll? You certainly are better spoken that the stiff who owns the company....
I have the Midwest Industries hand guard on my Marlin Dark .45-70 as a cosmetic point of difference and now, here in Australia, 2 years later Marlin’s are now being sold by the local distributor with the Midwest guard factory fitted. As a taste maker I may need to update to the Ranger Point Precision hand guard.
Cool
I’m planning on going full tacticool because it’s the best we can get seeing as how stupid our laws are
What?? You guys in Australia are ALLOWED to own a lever action rifle???? 👍 👍 👍 👍
@@martinz.4852 Wait til you find out we are not allowed to have pump shotguns but have pump 308 and 223, and have button release 12g
100% agree. Love my RPP on my Henry X.
Great stuff!
I so wish this video came out a week ago. My Midwest handguard arrives today. I had no idea Ranger Point made a handguard. I own a Marlin 1894 CST .357. My Hoptic quiver arrives Monday. Will the quiver mount on the Ranger Point handguard in the same location and orientation as on the Midwest handguard. Huge fan of you videos! Doing most of the same modifications with exception of the lever and loading gate change outs. Wrapping my lever with a nice black paracord weave and my loading gate is good and I found an alternate solution to make it even better (partially loading empty brass with loading gate held open). I will keep watch! Especially the CST VIDEOS!
I went with RPP because of their “Costa Rail” system. I can have rails on top that mount to the top of the hand guard, encompassing the entire barrel.
Good overview of the two style. I'd add that the RPP handgaurd is actually 3 separate panels screwed together and I believe the Midwest is a solid piece. Not a deal breaker though, when I received my RPP I had to tighten down the screws, thus got a better panel fitment. Love the RRP, she gets looks at the range for sure!!
Thanks! Yeah it's a head turner :)
I'm poor, bought the Rossi 92 that is Cerakoted green in .44 magnum, but after listening to your video I now know that the RPP handguard is what my Rossi needs!
I have both. I did not like the RPP one at all at first but it has grown on me. Tightening up the panels made me like it a lot better. It clicked before.
Ah interesting
Well you sold me on the ranger point. Thank you for making this video
Welcome! Thanks for watching!
I can't wait for my RPP handguard to arrive. almost caved and got the MWI one cause it was on hand and available. After watching this I'm glad I opted to wait for the RPP version. Now I need the quiver and the medium loop lever.
You're going to love it! Always more parts to buy! hahaha
I’ve got the RPP on my Henry model x 45 70, I love it!!
Nice!
Have a RPP in green hitting the mail tomorrow….can’t wait
A buddy of mine sprayed that Rhino bed spray on the outside of the hand gaurd and it really provides a great heat resistant rubberized grip!! I don't know how others would like that but I thought it was a great idea!!
Great video!!
Nice! Thanks for watching!
Hey there boss I enjoy your videos.
this is my 3rd video I've seen and You don't disappoint you've put a lot of detail and information and that's what I like.
I have a question. Which lever action do you feel is better the new Henry sidegate or the Marlin dark series?
I Stock and between buying a new Henry or a Marlin dark Ceres in him sort of leaning toward the Marlin dark series with the arranger point
Hey Jose! Thank you so much! I really try to cover everything. I honestly haven't shot a Henry yet...but that will be changing soon :) Once I get one in hand I will give you guys a good comparison between them. I can say though, my Marlins have never let me down. I have run them hard and they keep on kicking! Thanks for watching!
That is very true we all have many choices what is right for one is not necessary right for the other both of these companies make excellent products without a doubt I like the Midwest Industries 2 Port muzzle brake good presentation thank you
Thank you! I try my best to be impartial and share my thoughts on things. I think the new Midwest rail/handguard combo looks awesome! Very promising for a lot of things. I'll try to get one soon and give it a go!
Love the content! Wondering if yall could give us insight on the Citadel Levtac? It wasn't my first choice for a lever gun but the Marlins and Henrys are impossible to find in my area.
Keep an eye out on gunbroker
Im trying to add the RPP 6rd 45/70 quiver to my traditional Marlin??? I dont want the M-Lok on my gun! But i want the quiver??? Is there any quivers out there that mount to a traditional wood stock? Or is there a way to mount the RPP 6rd quiver to a wood stocked marlin? I love the wood stock on my gun!!
My RPP hand guard looks and feel great on my 336CS .30-30.
Nice!
Can you tell me where you got Butt stock? I've been looking online, but only can find wood .
Man I’ve got a box of ranger point parts coming today for my 336! You’ve got me sold with all the aspects you liked about that handguard. I stole a ‘73 model for less than 100$ that had been laying in a storage building for years with some light rusting. A cerakote and these ranger point parts and I should have a nice all around rig. Thanks so much for sharing your experience and professionalism my friend!
That's a bargain. No such bargains in the UK everything is £900 and up for Marlins. That said pretty much all the guns here are like safe queens unless they're used for vermin control.
love the whole western shooting thing! im not into it as far as a cowboy hat or boots ,mind you. But i do love the guns and My favorite rifle is my Henry in 357mag. It shoots better then any other gun i have and sits in my shoulder like its a part of me! And im 6ft6intall at about 250lbs! LOL fits me like a glove!!!
Will the midwest industries fit a Henry Model X H018X410 and if so does it cover up the magazine tube port?
Hi Brian, this is Robin from Germany. I really love your Channel, lots of detailed Information and also how to videos which is like gold for me as a beginner in all that stuff 👍🏻
I‘m looking for the Ranger Point Precission Hand Guard. Unfortunately in Germany it‘s not available and i didn‘t found any US Dealer who would ship it to Germany. Do you have any advice for a dealer who is shipping to Germany?
THX and stay safe
Robin
Hey Robin! Thank you so much for the kind words. Ranger Point Precision ships internationally. They have a link for it on their website. Hope that helps. Have a great day 😁
What brand is that horizontal quiver? I really like the looks of that
HopticUSA quiver 👍
Ok, great vid! Do you know of any manufacturer making a tactical handguard for a Winchester 94? Or know of a way to modify one to the 94? Only piece I've found so far is a no drill picatinny rail.
Thanks! Check out Louthan Gunworks on IG and his website. He does it pretty often. He cuts a new tenon slot for the handguard to mount in. Works perfectly 👍
The RPP handguard on the Henry covers the feed port - that’s a deal killer. On the MI just install M lok covers, problem solved.
Nice!
Thanks!
I love your statement i just love my wooden lever guns! If i wanted an M-lok forend or stock i would have purchased it like that? I am going to figure out a way to install my 6rd 45/70 RPP quiver to my 1894Marlin for sure? LOL but i do want another lever gun in 30/30 or maybe 44Mag? I have my Marlin in 45/70 and a Henry in 357Mag but its a classic which i love but no side gate for ease of loading? :>/ didnt think that threw if i were to use it in self defense,although if i need more then 10rds in that end ,then i have bigger problems?! ROFL
The Marlin 1895 dark that I recently acquired already had a bunch of ranger point precision upgrades on it. It looked good, and felt good, so I bought it. I don't think I would invest the additional money to do it myself though. But I am already like "screw it" and gonna go full tactitard with it now. Put a magpul afg2 on it and it is surprisingly comfortable when manipulating the action. Gonna go and get a reflex sight for it today. 🤷♂️
If the downside is, that the surface is too good quality ... . Maybe, just maybe, someone invented a foregrip kind of thing for M-lok.
I wish RPP made a handguard for my 1892 Alaskan Takedown. Would make it easier for mounting a sling and I like the ammo mounts.
Check with Louthan Gunworks, he might be able to make something work for you. Check out the Rossi he outfitted with a Marlin RPP handguard for me: th-cam.com/video/MQfeN7bGWuU/w-d-xo.html
With Midwest's updated handguard, does that solve the issue of the hot barrel? Now the rail runs the full length of the handguard. The full length rail also attaches to the top of the receiver AND the handguard near the muzzle. So it looks like it should be sturdier than this version.
Yep definitely a better setup for that 👍
So does the Costa handguard with 2 gator rails come in first place now?
For me, I chose the Midwest handguard because it has a full-length rail. Can't bridge rails on the Costa. So a full-length is better.@@jeremysorenson922
You could always put a textured surface onto the MI handguard...
I’m sold, thanks…
Would these fit a Winchester model 94?
What is that little ammo saddle on your RPP handguard? I like that-but I don’t see that on their website. Is it another brand?
That’s the HopticUSA quiver 👍
@@buildhuntxplore thank you. In another video I did find you weren't necessarily as pleased with it compared to RPP's, but I appreciate the clarification.
Have you done a comparison on their butt stocks? I definitely like the RPP handguard but I'm torn on the butt stocks. I like the built in cheek riser on the MW but I like the adjustability of the RPP. The MW also has the M-loks built in where as the RPP needs the plate purchased separately. Decisions, decisions...
You make an excellent video. Very informative and great tutorials (removing Henry's forearm). BUT...
I can see you purposefully NOT wrapping your fingers around the RP like you did with the MI handguard. Just before they are about to go over the top you bend them so they don't. And you are right. Those are some LARGE hands. But I see some wood furniture lever actions in the background on some of your videos, so you must make them work.
I went MI. I almost ordered a RP handguard, but they would not return my email or voicemail and I wanted to clear something up before placing my order.
Then I called Midwest Industries. MI's TS and I had a lengthy (too lengthy actually, as I had something else to do) conversation on the telephone about all sorts of stuff. More than I even asked him about. And now that they have those M-LOK panels, you can get yourself that larger grip some people need.
Love the looks of their new stock, too. Ordered one the day they were released with the shell plate.
Based on customer service alone, Midwest Industries for the win.
Now that my Henry is complete I'll be building a R95 using their components in a week or so.
It's nice to have choices.
Do these fit the 22 models?
They make these for a variety of companies, including Citadel. I figure, once you put a quiver and a flashlight on the handguard, the coolest thing would be to spend like 100$ on some rail scales, the 4 slot ones, for the bottom of the hand guard and the left side, Instead of just getting a whole new handguard. Citadel only company to start with a M-Lok handguard, Mossberg, that's all I know, i'm sure there's plenty of custom options, those are a lot of money.
I tried both and even though I don't like the square sides, the rangerpoint is what I bought. I put wood mlok covers on though.
Wish the rangerpoint had a rounded or octagon version.
Update above: I tried it over the weekend and hated it. Midwest is nicer.
What make is the 2 round quiver?
I would take either one, but can’t find one in stock for a Henry.
Yeah it's rough
What's that hammer extension on the 1895? That thing looks way more ergonomic than the stuff that I know.
It's an RPP one. They are awesome!
@@buildhuntxplore sweet. Thanks!
Do a ranger point comet Brake Vs MI Two port brake please!
I prefer the RP stock but I wish they made one with a longer top rail. Midwest has one that extends all the way to the hammer and replaces the normal peep sights or optic rail
I have that one too, video here somewhere. Also, Ranger Point does lake a longer rail unit, called the Costa. There’s a video of it on here too.
@@buildhuntxplore they have one that mounts to the top of the foregrip but they don’t have one that extends as a contiguous piece all the way to the hammer. If I’m wrong I’d love to know but I haven’t found it
It’s a little pricey at over $300 now for the Midwest but I’d love to just have the same thing as an RP to keep with the original aesthetic
Gotcha. No, the RPP is segmented. Midwest is the only continuous one.
What is the advantage over leaving the standard Walnut front hand guard on a lever action other than trying to make it look like an AR?
Because you can add foregrips...and lights....and lasers....and....stuff...
Midwest industries Hand guard 🔥🔥
I love the look of it, just doesn't fit my hand as well.
Amen
I made this choice initially because of my big hands. Now Midwest has a new one that has a top rail and much more surface area. Reviewing it now!
@@buildhuntxplore your review is definitely influenced that.
What is the butt stock on the RPP is it polymer stock ?
Yep, it's the RPP stock.
RPP just released a polymer version.
They actually had it quite a while prior to this
Does this work/fit the Henry 45 LC?
Sure does 👍
how did you change to a pistol grip on the 1894 ?
The 1894 CST was one of the few that came from the factory with a pistol grip.
yea man i love RPP!!! :>)
May I ask how big your hands are? I’ve known guys who said their hands are huge and were the same size as my “smaller” hands if you could let us it would be appreciated. If you are using XXL work gloves it’s really different than say medium, but i don’t know if you think mediums would be too large too and you still would be touching a hot barrel...
lol totally understand. On average, I run a Large on some gloves and XL on others depending on how they are cut. I’m 6’4” tall
@@buildhuntxplore so I normally wear a medium work glove and a small if I want a really really tight fit (less comfortable but maybe more dexterous) - do your hands barely not fit / barely too big or do you think with little child hands you still need something else like a pistol grip to get a firm hold - I’m 5’8” so quite a bit smaller than you, but I’d say average (which is probably why I wear a medium and your 6’4 monster build wears XL haha)
I asked a woman that question once. Awkward.
Midwest Ind. All the way!!!!!!
Great option!
What gun is using the ranger point? Looks really nice and clean and what caliber
Thanks! It's my Marlin 1895 SBL 45/70
@@buildhuntxplore thanks for responding, but marlin doesn't make any guns anymore, I heard they got bought out but I'm not sure, I would like to get a gun in 30-30 and 45-70 and I'm watching more of your videos your guns look very nice
Thanks! Marlin got purchased by Ruger and they hope to be making the Marlin lever actions next year.
@@buildhuntxplore yeah me too, I'm still young but when I'm old enough I want to get a lever action I hope ruger has the same consideration for the beauty of lever actions as marlin did
Isn’t the point of the hand guard to add things as needed? Like textured panels or grips
Do you like the 1894 or the 1895 better?
Tough call. They both have their place and are a ton of fun. If I could only have one though…1894 👍
Why did they chop the pic rail off the top instead of leaving one all the way around?
Most likely because it would interfere with the rear sight on the majority of lever action rifles on the market, or any with the XS Sights Lever Rail.
Good video, but I would have appreciated some more video on the guns so you can look at the esthetics more :)
Sorry, I'll try to do more later
Also a TON of photos on my Instagram page
Can someone point me to a website to find a 45 colt quiver? Thanks
HopticUSA. the 45-70 quiver will work. Thanks for watching!
I have the Midwest Industries handguard on my 45-70 I'm but gonna buy another Marlin lever gun just the get the Ranger Point Precision handguard
LOL nice!
stil cant wrap your hand around a hot barrel on this, definitely on RPP rayroll
Lol I said you can’t wrap it as easily. The cutouts down the side alloy you to lay your thumb in the channel and give a better grip
I am going with the midwest because they have a wrap around style with sights... RPP does not. I tried a mad pig over the weekend with a rpp, it felt fat and goofy. It also didn't have a top rail for my clip on. I refuse to put the strange super long xs rail on it.
Btw, the originals are round, not square and about the same diameter as the mi.
Tacticooling the thing is the point I thought, haven’t you played Borderlands?
LOL actually no, I haven't
MW is the clear winner of these two
Lol, both good options. It's just a matter of what fits you best.
Whatcha doing with the old Midwest industries rail? I'm happy to send you my mailing address to send it too!
Raffle it! Proceeds to GOA!!
LOL I get this a lot. Not sure yet
lol not a bad idea!
@@buildhuntxplore ahh come on, no one will know! Lol I have the perfect project for it. Midwest industries rails are unobtainium.
Sign me up for the one your taking off. I could give it a good home.
LOL I have had a few offers like that. Might do something with it
🐉🐺🐉🇺🇸
you said you did not like that hand guard because you said you would burn your hands on the hot barrel , the gun as you said would be for self defense , how many shots in a self defense are you going to make to burn your hand i will be suppressed if the shoot more than 4 shots , this will not burn your hand .
I also shoot it for fun. When you get to about 30/40 shots, it starts getting pretty hot. Additionally, the likely hood of shooting more than 4 shots is very real if more than one person breaks into you home in the middle of the night. It's not uncommon for 3 or 4 people to come in at once, just watch some of the videos online.
Masson leather is nice but shit it ain’t cheap
:-) I can send you my Henry to upgrade with ranger point products
Haha...just add mlok grip panels. It creases the diameter of the fore grip.
Midwest all the way...
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WHO SAYS U CANT PUT LASERS ON A LEVER GUN ;)
🤣 nobody is stopping ya!
Understand his insight but it’s still just apples and oranges is it not
Skateboard tape keeps it thin, but better grip...
Not a bad idea. Good Tape works great too!
Yea so Im sorry, I have a Ranger Point Precision sight on my H010 3030 and have considered one for my all weather 44 mag....but a tactical leaver gun is about as useful as a switch blade butter knife. It just doesn't belong.
A tactical lever gun is perfect for hunting with a light or for home defence if you don't or can't own an ar, basically the next best thing and better than a bolt action for close hunting, it's pretty handy as an all round farm gun with those quick follow up shots..
It might not belong, but sure is cool. The levergun I recently got is already pretty much fully upgraded with rpp products. It is cooler than I could have imagined. I am going to turn it into a cursed gun by adding more tactical stuff. I honestly can't see any real practical use for what I am doing to it...but it looks cool, and I originally bought it as a toy.
Real men prefer crescent buttplates cause you have shoulder injuries to brag about much sooner.
A shill for RPP.....
that two round "quiver" seems a little pointless. Again, some zombie apocalypse shit that a lot of gun guys are into... like you'll need absolute speed to get just two more rounds? Necessary enough to have attached to your gun?? LOL. I'd rather have a belt that holds 15 rounds or whatever.
If you're not putting a grip on either new hand guard then what is the point of getting them? The quivers are incredibly awkward to use. The RPP square shape is ugly, they both function the same. Went with Midwest myself.
Really a useless video. Before you trash or praise either brand you should at least through some different toys on there. You couldn't even show a video of you shooting them side by side showing your "grip" issue?
I have shot both, I show the grip in the video. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Is this a joke? If you need all of that crap to shoot a lever action then you need to go back into the basement.
🤣 It’s not NEEDED, but adds to the modularity and allows for a more functional weapon for certain instances. If you can’t see it as being useful in some instances, or just let people do what they want with guns THEY bought, maybe you should stop being such a Karen.