The other day someone called me a psychopath, I haven't responded to them so far, but that's okay I can get back to them anytime, they're still down in the pit.
Im not worried im convinced i mean yea im convinced im a psychopath i generally like when bad things happen to others in a way im glad its not me because well duh why would you want it to be but i dont think im dangerous maybe unless you do something stupid like walk a dog in a stroller my foot might find itself behind the stroller but infront of your feet lmao
My mother was diagnosed with psychopathy. She had some of these traits but not all. She mostly wanted to do the right thing in the outside world because that was “logical” but she was a very abusive mother with 0 empathy for my sister and I. It was very confusing and I’m still realizing the depth of the insanity I went through as a child because this was my mother. Thank you for making this video.
Depending on your age, she was directly or indirectly, by a generation or two, lived through the depression ww2 or recessions after. I hope one day you can make room for some of her behaviors and try to minimize your expression of any of what you thought was problematic in yourself. Also, if you are questioning the government about Israel and Ukraine or their medicinal decisions, the psychiatric field is also a human endeavor.
Maybe she was more a narcissistic than psychopath, in the modern classification from the DSM-5 the narcissistic personality shares MANY traits with pshychos. Let’s say I knew a person in my family with that classification and is really really near to psychopathy
I empathise with you Raina, my mother was a very physical and mental abuser and at the time I hated my father for allowing her to be abusive. She is now 99 and still expects others to do her bitting. I find it hard on mothers day to find a card to send her because she was and still is none of the things the cards say.
My ex-wife was diagnosed as a narcissistic sociopath. I was lucky to get out of that relationship physically unscathed. She completely destroyed my life in every other way.
My mom and ex-wife are both covert narcissist, I figured ot my ex and a few months later my mom. I know I'm one hundred percent right cause if it has happened to you it has happened to somebody else. Daughters, Son, Sisters or brothers they have seen there odd behavior but the majority hasn't and guess who's side they will take.
John Barber hating yourself is common so, yea, that’s almost normal behavior for the mentally disabled. (We have a group, well not so much a group, it’s just me cuz I hate all other ppl, so find help from someone who cares)
Being raised by a psychopath (my mother) was an interesting and very dysfunctional ride. I have done extensive reading in my adult life on the subject of ASPD to learn tools of dealing with her, and have been somewhat successful in setting up boundaries as an adult that I lacked as a child. She is a good person, who tries to do the right things, but it is clear that in her mind ahe is the center of everything in the world, and that to her, no one is capible of understanding her, or being as important as her. Even with boundries set up over many years now, it is truly impressive the skill in manipulation a true psychopath has, and how often I fall into old patterns without realizing it. People with ASPD are still people, who (for the most part) want to be good, they just don't know how, and it is really important that you don't end up sacrificing yourself to try and teach them. Helping is okay, as long as you yourself are not being lost in the process.
Blade4952 I think your mother is just a sociopath because she wants to be good. I’m pretty sure actual psychopaths do not care if anyone thinks they are good and they have no aspirations to be good unless it gets them what they want.
This is why I am always suspicious of particularly charming people, especially if they flatter me ... there was one coworker of mine who seemed to agree with me on everything I was saying when we were having a coffee (not in a super obvious way either, he would deftly reformulate the idea and respond in a different way like it was his own opinion and he was honestly pretty good at this) , but eventually I said: "you do a lot of mirroring, don't you?' He said "heh, you're the first person who's ever called me out on that..". Funny thing is, since I found out later that he was a psychopath, I'm pretty sure that must've been a lie, much like almost everything else he ever said. I get shudders remembering how I ALmost dated him but fortunately I dodged that bullet!
When you read this, you need to be aware that I have GAD (generalized anxiety dissorder), and fairly severe at that. I had a customer that turned out to be a psychopath. I did the accounting for his bussines, and when I detected something that added up to financial crime, I told them they had to find someone else. And I told the dude why. I also did what the law here in Sweden requier of accountants and reported the customer to the law enforcement dudes. This resulted in me and my wife recieving death threats and the company owner comming home to us to "reason with me" with the help of some edge tools (knife). In the end, I cracked and ended up at home to mentally sick to work. That in turn resulted in my business going under. The upside? Everyone - from authorities to other customers to the bank where our mortgage are was super nice and super understanding when I showed them the reason why I got a meltdown and went sick. I got a lot of help to get back to a working life, and we didnt need to sell our home. Oh, the bloody psychopath? He ended up in prison for a lot of reasons, and he lost basically everything he ever had. I think he is out now, but I know for a fact that he is forbidden to have any roll in a company board or even try to run any type of business again for what is basically life. It has been a little hell for me and my wife, but in the end justice and the law enforcment worked.
I understand extreme GAD, it can make life very challenging. I am very glad for you that everyone believed you, they were accommodating and agreeable. And you were able to get the requisite mental health so you were able to rebuild your life. That is wonderful! While reading this, I thought, "This is unlikely in America." Here, I'm thinking, the psychopath gets away with it and the person and family are the ones who are ruined. One reason is that mental health problems and treatment are shunned, seen as personal weakness and failure. You can see how this would explain many things about America. More than that, perhaps psychopaths are idolized to some degree, and people live in fear of them and are reluctant to stand up to them. There is less of a feeling that we are morally obligated to make an effort to go out of our way because we own a social responsibility to society. I'm not entirely sure if this explains why I feel that, "This is unlikely in America." Does anyone agree with me or perhaps have a better explanation? I would be interested! Again, congratulations to you and your family. You did the right thing and I'm sure that's not easy anywhere. You did the hard work to get your life back. And, finally, you saw justice done!!!
@Hue ManI actually toyed with the idea of opening the door behind me, wish might have ended up with the same result as getting out a gun. We allways have some rescued dogs at home in the form of Pitbulls. Pitbulls are useless watching for someone that tries to steal your tv - they couldnt care less. But if someone in their pack gets agitated and threatened? Ouch! But I felt like i couldnt do that to our pups. Had my wife been alone at home, however... they were extremley defensive regarding her. Sadly, both has passed away due to old age - and they are sourly missed!
Erik Granqvist don't let violent people tell you that you should also be violent. You're a good man! Thanks for telling your story and for being a cool, sane person.
Erick you are such a brave person what a terrible thing for you to go through and yet you stood your ground and showed ppl what this person had done I don't know many ppl who would have had that sort of courage.
I know exactly what you mean. I lived with that for over 7 years. I didn't realize it until toward the end of the relationship. For most of it, I based my value on the feedback I was getting. Whether it be good or bad. Usually it was bad, because I didn't seem to be doing most things right, according to them. As long as I made enough money, I had some value to them.
That's me and my lovely mother. She absolutely used my insecurity against me. I'm always willing to admit I may be wrong so an easy target to her. She made me question my own memory and sanity, she had me half convinced I was the maniac but I finally got up the courage to mention that to my psych (I never dared until age 30, approaching 32 now). Last interaction, she called me 20 times at work. I deliver stuff so I'm in traffic and I don't answer the bloody phone, which I have told her a hundred times. Got home called her back. Rejected my call 10 times, I asked WTF is going on? She began to insult me, "I don't care if you aren't feeling well blablabla and words that would lilkely get this autodeleted...) I had two days earlier after similar incidents begged her to tone it down, that she was ruining my life, put me in such a foul mood for weeks I almost lost my job. I did actually but boss gave me another chance... Well that was it. About 10 times I repeated the message: You will calm down now. You will stop attacking and bullying me. I want proof that you're not concealing your bipolar and more from the psych anymore! I want thr psychs phonenumber and I want her to go on antipsychotics. She tells her psych she's just depressed and she can be super charming and pretend to be a wonderful person plus she's considered attractive so she gets psychs to write whatever she wants.... Or else I would block her forever and never speak to her again. She just kept insulting me... I asked her to think very carefully if it was really worth loosing the only member of the family who still talks to her just to let off some steam. If she needed to insist on ruining her life and mine by refusing all medication that adresses the actual issue, not just anti depressants. She likes those. I do too, thanks to her. My psych says the laundry list is clinical depression (not responsive to SSRIs), social anxiety and possibly ptsd. Wants me to see a trauma specialist, I told him to fk off but I would think about it. He chuckled at that and gave me a link to some healthcare website were covered specialists offered spots... Anyway I did end up blocking her that day. I felt so relieved. Her thing was to treat everyone like garbage and then play the victim because everyone was mean to her (I wonder why...) and blaming it on me, I ruined her life blablabla. So I feel a little guilty, she has no one left now. But I warned her for years this would happen and for 5 years she managed. But she threw it all away in a day and I am done with her. Whenever I think, maybe I should take pity I remember all those years of abuse and decide against it. My life, well being, self confidence etc... have all improved massively since breaking off all contact. I'm a crappy son, I know but she's a horrible mother so I think morally I still come out on top, not that it matters, I just can't risk loosing my job because I snap at someone after she yelled at me all night, barely intelligible manic and raving likely drunk... 31 years old bi*** I don't fall for that stuff anymore. Ibsee the manipulation and gas-lighting coming from miles away. I'm just disappointed when it turns out I was correct. I wouldn't mind being wrong on that one but she's never disappointed my worst expectations.
It was interesting that positive reinforcement was so effective with teenagers who showed psychopathic tendencies. It kind of ties back to what you said earlier about them having super charged dopamine centers. Rewarding for good behavior trains their brains that the best way to get dopamine highs is to do good. And since that dopamine high is so important for psychopaths, you're really demonstrating to them that its in their selfish best interest to do good. In the real world that is likely to continue reinforcing that trend since doing good for other people tends to lead to more good and therefore greater rewards.
Yep. And if you can rehabilitate 1/3rd of your criminals that way (ignoring that children below a certain age legally are not "criminals"), that means getting tough potentially creates 50% more criminals to deal with later. (Inverse of -33% is +50% for the math impaired.) Better to get the "do good to others" snowball going, if you ask me.
I just saw this on a show, the child was a psychopath and the therapist convinced her she can get what she wants by doing what is right/good. She saw it as a reasonable path to get what she needs and wants when confronted with the alternative.
We make our criminal justice system itself punitive and psychopathic rather than nuanced and rehabilitation based and wonder why it doesn't seem to work to make our communities safer or help people live better lives.
3:20 i was trapped in a relationship for 5.5 years with a woman with ALL of these traits. I am only free because she drank herself to death. So PSA to men out there, Joe's advice "Get out girl.." applies to everyone. edit: got to the end of the video. well tldr of my story. if you were wondering how i was trapped in the relationship: She dragged me through 3 false domestic lawsuits when i tried to leave by hurting herself and then calling the police. more than once attacked me with a knife while drunk. i have a severed tendon in my hand. Domestic violence shelters told me they only had space for women, or just didn't take me seriously. Police laughed at me when i tried to go for help, when i tried to insist the told me "you don't want us to investigate, because if she contradicts your claim we'd be arresting you instead. " That chilled me to my core and killed any sense of hope i had that anyone would help me. My life is pretty much destroyed currently.
Jesus, that is horrendous. I hope things look up for you. I hope you're getting some kind of care after all this trauma, but if you live in America and aren't independently wealthy, that's probably not happening...
The number of women who engage in domestic violence is surprisingly large. But because “you’re a man,” you should be able to “handle it.” Or “you’re bigger than her.” Or you should just “toughen up.” Men are not necessarily much larger than their wives or girlfriends. And even if they are, if they’re not willing to dish out violence against their partner, they’ll be victims. Nobody wants to talk about this.
I'm so sorry you went through that man. Society doesn't think guys can be victims too. I was married to the absolute craziest woman I've ever known, and her true colors didn't shine until well after the big day. Long story short, 8 yrs of suffering later I finally ballsed up and left. She said if I didn't want her then I didn't want my daughter either, who was my whole world. She disappeared with my daughter 6 yrs ago, and I haven't seen her since. I had to be institutionalized for suicidal thoughts and behavior. Men can be victims too, no doubt. You'll be in my prayers Brother
I had a breakthrough when I believed I "stopped feeling" because movies used to scare me and I was scared of relationships that I thought I broke something. It was more of a hardened exposure coupled with mild anxiety of the unknown. Basically normal.
Well said. Here's something that came to me one day after yelling FUCK out loud while my smart phone was nearby. Within a few minutes, I received a TH-cam recommendation for this Ted Talk... th-cam.com/video/GwRzjFQa_Og/w-d-xo.html ✌
@@Blakearmin Tis a matter of taste, I imagine. Thought this one was a fun one to listen to, with someone giving a 'serious' presentation, based in so much unbridled fuckery. The fact that it came to me after yelling FUCK!, is a whole other level of entertainment, and concern...
Use to have severe panic disorder heart would palpate and I think I'm in the throes of death. I got sick of being at the mercy of my heartbeat, and due to some notions that were already brewing in my mind I just accepted that I was already dead. Panic attacks dissapeared completely went from 5mg Alprazolam + 4mg Clonazepam a day to benzo free soon after. Anxiety has only appeared possibly as butterfly's in stomach once since due to what I believe to be a female psychopath lol. This was 6 years ago accepting myself as already dead freed me to myself however those around me seem to take issue to it. I'm never on time anymore it feels as if when I'm needed at a time that time it self run 10× faster and I don't really care about their time aside anyway. Also have aged so little it can not be noticed physically sense its trippy. I do yearn to feel alive at times however and it does have equal and opposite effects I'm dead already so why give AF?
😂😂 watching this with my boyfriend saying babe I'm pretty sure you might be a psychopath and then Joe says, " girl get out!" Hysterically and uncomfortable laughter, swipes keys and flees out the door! Lmao!
@@kimberlyhovis5864 Empathy is such an old hat. People call themselves empaths nowadays just to express their superiority when it can't be measured in any way but only deduced from your actions. So if you have great empathy for a homeless person dying from freezing in front of you and you of course care but don't do anything to help, how can empathy can be proven? Also empathy has been said to exist in psychopaths but they tend to ignore it. So it is the same game of just not acting on your "empathy".
"You should play with other people's lives" "Have fun" "Take advantage of them" "it is normal". "In the end, it is NOT your fault that they believe your lies". A psychopath once gave me advice..... Scary!
Okay just to be the devils advocate, does that mean these people are evil or does it mean that most folks are just too gullible and incapable of rational thought? Oh shit, does thinking like this make me a psychopath?
@@resonanceofambition Couldn't it be both? Like if evil people exist - which they do, you should have the appropriate defences, but that doesn't justify people being evil somehow lol. Like if you notice someone is "vulnerable", i.e. you could take advantage of them somehow, you are a bad fucking person if you decide to do that - but it doesn't mean they're "okay" being vulnerable. They shouldn't be vulnerable, that's not good either lol (obviously many things that make people vulnerable can't really be changed, but if they can be changed, it's right to change it)
Different failures of empathy: 1. You are not intellectually capable of imagining how you would feel as the other person. 2. It simply doesn't occur to you to look from the other's perspective. 3. You are capable of looking from another's perspective, but you just don't effen care. 4. You care, but your ingrained, habitual pattern is to not be empathetic. 5. You care about the other person's perspective, but you see their concerns as minor compared to a greater good (religion, political movement, or whatever). 6. You actually get off on the suffering of others. 7. You totally get the feelings of others, and you use that understanding to manipulate them for your own selfish purposes. 8. You could be anything from (1) to (7), or be normal, depending on what kind of day you're having. Nobody ever said human behavior is simple.
They do not care about other people perspective or feelings, they observe behavior and make deductions. Oh I am supposed to act this way when someone is sad, I am supposed to care about other people when they are hurt so I will use these words like those people I saw on that movie. They mimic sane and normal behavior to get what they need and want and to blend in. They do love hurting others. They find out what you love and like so they can take it from you or keep it from you. It brings them great joy knowing they made you feel bad, or devastated. They love drama cuz that gives them advantage in interactions. Most of us get worn down and stressed with drama, they thrive on it. They dont care if it goes on and on. We are striving for peace and harmony, they love things stirred up. They are energy vampires, if you are weak you are easier to steal from.
"Nobody ever said human behavior is simple." - Well good portion of the population likes to simplify things(especially in those places where education is inadequate)..they also like to make connections where there aren't any (at least nothing concrete , subjective opinions & public perception play role here(just a hunch))...¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
I feel sick now... I hate the thoughts of the things I can't make go away... I wish I could not care as much as them... Then I wouldn't have to feel this way...
From the psychopath federation. We take no offense because we just don’t care enough to care at all but, we aren’t totally lacking in a sense of humor over the diet conscious beast among the heard
Malcolm Mellon where do you live exactly because I need to thank you personally for your astute attention to detail and a much more elevated desire to correct my spelling than the average bare. You should be rewarded properly
@@davidklein1667 "If you’ve ever been on a coffee date with someone who chose black coffee over the typical indulgent caffeinated creation, you might want to take your latte and run. Apparently, you might be on a date with a psychopath." From an article, come on :) this is ridiculous!
Wow, very enlightening. It just clicked that this friend I have had since age 5 clearly fits this description. We are 50 so I have had ample time to observe him always starting new Ponzi schemes, cycling through relationships with women, etc. He has never been a violent person so I never thought this term applied.
every humans have still his ideals. and fears...hurting other is bad, and maybe he is just fine with some alc and woman. if you want violence in a peacefull way? full contact martial arts, boxing instructor or ballet trainer^^
@@danielchoritz1903 Psychopath doesn't care whether something is wrong. They don't have empathy, so they don't even comprehend that other people have feelings. They consider others just a resources to use for their own benefit.
Yeah, I knew one. The oldest son of my godparents, who lived across the street and were our playmates growing up. He killed at least 11, and possibly as many as 21 people. He always seemed strange but never showed any sign of violence. He was like a big brother, helping me buy my first car and showing me around his college.
First sign of a psychopath... back facing camera then turning around at the start of a video. Hi. In related news... I love blood oranges. Bitter goodness. Damn it.
I’ve done a bit of studying about this because of my daughter. What I found was that psychopathy is something you’re born with. Sociopathy is something you develop.
Gabe Denty the difference is that depression causes sociopathic behaviors, and more. While a sociopath certainly wouldn’t have really noticed anything was wrong to begin with
Gabe Denty I do believe "normal" people can develop "sociopathic" or psychopathic behaviors/tendencies over time, due to their experiences, but if you're worrying if you'll end up being a psychopath, I can say: no. You don't have to worry about that. Psychopathy (antisocial personality disorder) is a personality disorder that affects someone's whole personality, that means it's who they are as a person. You can only "become" a psychopath (or a sociopath, which is not a scientific term) when you undergo a change in your personality, which doesn't happen very easily, unless you have some kind of a brain damage or a tumor.
The decompression model honestly is one of the most effective ways to treat offenders from what I've read, I forget which scandinavian county ( probably norway ) uses this and have one of the highest rates of turn around in behavior of prison systems
Yeah people joke about the comfy prisons in Skaninavia and it is kinda hard to see a murderer living in such luxury and being treated so well but it works... their fancy prisons with well lit rooms and designer architecture are pretty empty on a per population basis. And systems that focus on punishement have overfilled prisons and rampant crime. Of course it's not as simpel as that but still.
@@221b-l3t People talk about the Scandinavian prisons as being a "luxury lifestyle", but they are really not. First of, you always see the 2-3 same few example prisons that are being used (Halden being the most showed), and those special prisons run test-programs because they are designed that way and can afford it, much more than regular Scandinavian prisons. Also the special prisons like Halden are supposed to mimic more of a college dormitory lifestyle, though one where your day is strictly regulated, since at the end of the day, it's still a prison. Also if the inmates really found Scandinavian prisons so luxurius, why are most of them not coming back, or wanting to come back? Because they got a great balance between being humane while not *too* lenient. So while of course nobody is scared of going back to Halden prison, they still don't want to.
@@221b-l3t It doesn't work. A 5% chance of rehabilitating them means 95% are released back in to society. It's a failed system that needs to modernize.
@@user-nk5es9iy8i Relax, I'm Swiss. Our prisons are also famously nice, but not as nice as Skandinavia. And yes some people have asked for prison instead some milder punishment because you get 3 meals a day. There was this famous case a few years back that was pretty funny.
So does that mean that everybody who interacts with these people needs to keep keep rewarding them for good behavior the rest of their lives? That’s a big ask. If there’s amonster that will killnyou if you don’t keep feeding him cookies, I think I’d rather eliminate the monster than have to bring a cookie jar every time he’s around.
I may have one of these in my life. 28 years of holding on(it’s my child) has led to all of it culminating to a pretty dramatic climax, basically, tomorrow. I find it interesting that this video was posted today. I have been subscribed for some time. Enjoy the videos, and bought your movie on Amazon. I guess, I am a fan of a TH-camr. I never thought I would say that. For me, the timing and content of this video was so relevant, I had to become a sponsor. Keep doing what you do Joe! You never know the impact it will have on people!
Hopefully just getting tested, that's what I was presuming atleast lol. No matter the verdict I hope the best for all of you, I am like 90% sure I am a socio and clicked on this knowing i was going to feel salty but i am happy he was far less damning than most people are on this topic.
@@argenfargen Two of the best people I've known were devoid of empathy and could turn other emotion off at will. "Intelligent self interest" can lead to a "normal" typical moral code; one was in near total agreement with me (difference: I'm a vegetarian animal lover). Both would be great to have around in a dangerous emotional situation, they'd funtion. I believe there's a reason evolution/adaptation never eliminated the trait.
7:49 Yes, I was diagnosed as having Secondary Psychopathy comorbid with boarderline personality disorder, stemming from bipolar disorder. The part about favoring Logical thinking is true and it’s because of this I took Spock as a roll model. If one is not encumbered by societal ideals then why should one sink to their expectations brought on by the negative connotation of a diagnostic label. We are who we choose to be, and logic dictates that an asset advances further amongst ones peers than does an antagonist.
Psychopaths don't experience anxiety, women are attracted to guys with confidence. Usually women are very attracted to psychopaths and then constantly complain what a jerk they are. By the way autistic people also can't really feel empathy, the difference is that they feel anxiety.
@@jeffk464 Also women are predisposed to be sexually attracted by the dominant males, therefore so often emotionally see criminals and even serial killers as dominant males which reasonably generate fear and avoidance in civilised society. That's named hybristophilia.
Diagnosed ASPD/NPD here. Years ago, I decided to try turning my narcissism on itself. I decided I knew I could make myself a better human being. I've been at it for over a decade, and while I've made improvements, I still struggle with basic human stuff. I offend (often) the people I love, and yes, I do love. The more I try the more my brain rewires itself. I'm happily engaged to a woman I ADORE, and my 16/yo son is a frigging genius. I rely on the feedback they give me to adjust my behavior. Will I ever be normal? No. But, I can do my best not to be a piece of crap. I live by a code now. *Don't be a dick *Don't be a pussy *Don't be an asshole
Hey, as long as you try your best, thats all anyone can ask of you. So many dont even try, its their way or no way. Your code sounds awesome! Kudos and good luck in your next decade. Im rooting for you :)
People with NPD are resistant to taking responsibility for their behaviour and seeing faults within themselves. What methods did you use to overcome these hurdles? How have you been progressing over the last 4 years? Did you tie the knot?
My sister is most likely a psychopath. She has tortured me my whole life and only recently have other people in our family seen her true intentions. Now everyone believes me, only took ~30 years of pain....
This is just evidence that humans are all psychopaths. The only reason we differentiate with labels and think some are and some aren't is due to the perceived actions on a case by case basis. If a psychopath never in their lifetime does "a psychopathic thing", does that make them not a psychopath? If so, is a person who thinks identically before and after they do their first "psychopathic thing" not a psychopath before they do it, and is a psychopath after they do it? Or were they a psychopath the whole time? So many questions. So little reason. Have a great day!
I hear you! Both sides of my family enabled and endulged my sister, no one would set any boundaries with her, she destroyed our family and my own family, too, almost 50 years for people to see her for what she is on both sides of the family, she was a firefighter so she could get out of a dui or anything else her whole life, well she got cancer and just died, so who has the last laugh, not sure if her being dead makes up for all horrible treatment, manipulation and abuse. But I am alive and she's not so fuck her. Hope this helps.
@@anthonylosego Believing that is actually a characteristic of psychopaths. Because they’re incapable of feeling love, they believe that it doesn’t exist and all the people who claim to feel it are lying or pretending. But brain scans reveal that there are differences between psychopaths’ brains and non psychopaths’ brains. In answer to your questions, a psychopath is a psychopath regardless of his or her behavior, but certainly it can be harder to determine this in some cases than others. To use this as evidence that there is really no distinction is nonsensical.
The first part hit so hard. The amount of times that’s happened to me from folks with DID, psychopathy, and sociopath diagnosis is really screwed up. I honestly have given up tryin to involve myself in the mental illness community because of them. And CLEARLY not all are bad people so go away if you wanna comment this.
The main trait of psychopath is the lack of empathy. Even if they aren't murdering people on daily basis, they are evil. In the best case, they are just manipulating and using others. Narcissists are the other evil kind of mental disorder. It's even recommended not to fight with a narcissist because they will ruin your life or even kill you.
@@dasik84 Most psychopaths are functional, using a lack of empathy to get things done it others hesitate. For example, they love to take risks and are excellent at doing what needs to be done. For they are immune to anxiety and fear. That's why they are excellent surgeons, bomb-disarmers, snipers and astronauts.
My girl told me about your new video when I was drinking my wheatgrass this morning. Now she has everyone making fun of me calling me a psyco so thanks for that Joe.
College first year in the dorms. I lived the farthest end dorm room, and at the other end of the wing (about 10 rooms), police broke in, arrested a guy, and he never came back. I found out from his roommate that apparently he was making death threats against his roommate and potentially was going to kill him. It was so insane to hear that he was leaving these notes around the dorm room saying he was going to do it.
I tried googling it and I found nothing do you have some sources and could link them thanks! I want to know! Edit: Also this sounds like another random Thursday topic that joe should do!
@Brainjock Dungeon & Dragons character alignments. A character can be either Lawful, Neutral or Chaotic and either Good, Neutral or Evil. So as an example Robin Hood would be Chaotic Good whereas the Sheriff of Nottingham is Lawful Evil. IMO a psychopath would be Neutral Evil and a sociopath would be True Neutral
I was diagnosed as a high functioning sociopaths. Similar but not the same. And I can tell you from my own experience, that if someone is too care free about everything, is too kind, is all smiles, but never angry out in public, but angry in private, seems too good to be true. Best to stay away, unless you feel confident in protecting yourself.
@@henyo5409 Mainly. Sociopaths are made by people, events, environments, and upbringings. Psychopaths are born. Their brain doesn't develop correctly. However the behaviors of both are similar.
There’s an interesting counter argument I heard about recently. Some group of researchers tried empathy training on psycho/sociopaths and concluded that the subjects became better at manipulating people without altering their core selfishness. C’est la vie.
My father suffers from substance-induced psychopathy. He's a beautiful, wonderful person when he's sober, but turns into a monster when he's intoxicated.
This is a bit late but I don't think that's a thing that exists? The only thing I could find was substance-induced psychosis, which is psychosis (delusions or hallucinations) triggered by substance abuse. Maybe that results in dangerous and antisocial behavior exalted by the intoxication. But psychopathy is generally seen as traits people have at their baseline. So yeah.
Very informative video on psychopathy! I remember having a discussion about psychopaths with a psychiatrist once. He stated that it’s a common misconception that psychopaths ever achieve high statuses, such as CEOs and politicians. In fact, it’s almost impossible for them, due to their strong tendency towards hurting others, which invariably ruins their networking abilities.
Socioopaths, yes. Psychopaths? No. They can keep up the charm in public as long as it gets them nearer what they want ... the positions of power. And the nearer they get, the harder is it to find them out because those below them know it's their job and credibility on the line if they do say anything. And it helps if they have a family or other outlet to take their bad side out on behind the scenes.
@@DianeMerriam I agree. Sociopaths are generally unable to hide their off-center behavior. Psychopaths can. I believe they reach top leadership positions in part because they don't care who they run over to get there.
“You won’t find the definitions in mental health’s official handbook, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. Doctors don’t officially diagnose people as psychopaths or sociopaths. They use a different term instead: antisocial personality disorder.” In North America, there isn’t currently a clear distinction between the two. This causes a lot of confusion in conversation, so I wanted to point that out.
To make it even more confusing, antisocial personality disorder describes only the violent, criminal extreme of the psychopathic spectrum. There’s no official DSM designation for what’s recognized as psychopathy. …And this is one of the many reasons the DSM is crap.
Psychopaths will usually still adhere to social rules, which are culture specific. They may even cling to social norms as a way of functioning in society. And they usually don't understand that there is anything 'wrong with them'. Sociopaths don't care about rules or laws, which are social constructs. When it comes to the crunch of getting what they want, they are perfectly aware that they are happy to break the rules to.acheive their goals. Psychopaths find interpersonal relationships handwork, but are happy to.use social constructs to help.them navigate relationships.
If violence is not one of the options used to achieve a goal, what I have said is still correct, as far as I can interpret. People think that both these types.of people are violent, but that is not generally the case. They are usually calculating enough not to need violence. It's just that the ones make.make the headlines.do.so.because they have done something horrific.
Got out of a 8y long relationship with a psychopath two years ago. Still feel embarrassed, I was in that relationship, since I probably knew he was a psychopath for the major part of the relationship. When I left, he somehow managed to keep a lot of my belongings, so after two years, all I have left from the relationship is anxiety trauma...yearhh.
One of the tell signs is when someone in a room yawns and most people yawn with them. Watch out for the person who does not yawn, they quite possibly are antisocial. Yawning after seeing someone else yawn is a involuntry sign of empathy; something usually absent in psychopaths.
3:50 no man, I'm watching that list thinking "that's my ex wife" and she put a pretty face with the judge and walked away with my kid after destroying 10 years of savings. Unfathomable depression got the better of me, but I'm still here to fight another day! But my kid spent her childhood like an orphan... Unfathomable frustration... Like fighting bloody Darth Vader 🤯
I'm so sorry that has happened to you. It reminded me of an opposite case - my uncle married a psychopath and they had 3 children together. When they got divorced, the wife failed at hiding her true nature from the judge and my beloved uncle got custody of ALL THREE kids. Amazing, that doesn't usually happen in Washington state.
@@Justin73791 I bet your hypocrisy is huge. I bet you're a Donald Trump fan. Which means that your Hippocratic about everything you talk about freedom speech while people that talk about speech that you don't agree with you want band. You talk about Justice but let the police and anyone that happens to agree with your politics get away with everything including murder. Like Kyle Rittenhouse literally went to literally do what he did he said it before he did it. And he took racist tones while doing it. Literally using that word. But yet he somehow managed to raise on a GoFundMe campaign Millions upon Millions upon millions of dollars. Your hypocrisy runs deep the worst thing you can be is a hypocrite and I guarantee that that's what you are. You're going to chide me like a baby because you're too dim-witted to understand that this guy everything that comes out his mouth is a lie. You know it in your heart but you still won't admit it because of your hypocrisy. Okay clown
@@struckfire3337 Wow.... I've never heard someone who doesn't know me judge me with such extensive wording. The vast majority of what you wrote I don't even recognize. Congratulations, you've projected your bitterness of the world onto someone just trying to tell a guy I'm sorry for his loss.
I became psychotic/temporarily psychopathic when I was weaned too fast off of lexapro by my inexperienced Doctor. Almost a complete change in my personality ß I was completely out of my mind for several months and I'm glad I didnt hurt anyone during that time as I was finding it very difficult to control my anger, rage and hatred. Doing great now but that was a very scary time for me and gave me a small taste of what every day must be like for a psycho.
I have autism and I was always called a psychopath because I can’t always show emotion or empathy. I care, I just can’t show it. It’s hard, being called something so horrible when you know you can’t control it.
Sociopath and Psychopath are outdated terms and both would be considered Antisocial Personality Disorder, the most common difference between what the mainstream would know about the difference is that Psychopaths are by nature (due to genetic or other physical anomalies) unable to have empathy towards others, where as Sociopaths are those that by nurture (being raised in an extremely violent environment, or other environmental factors) forced them to naturally develop psychopathic behaviors as a defense mechanism in order to survive.
Ron Schlorff Because normal is defined as having characteristics tending toward average. Height, for example. Add up everybody’s height and divide by the number of people and you get average. So if someone mostly has characteristics close to average, they’re considered normal. However, there is a concept called “standard deviation.” When you compare people to the average, you will find that almost everybody has some deviation, some “weirdness.” If you measure each person’s deviation and then again divide by the number of people, you get standard deviation. Then you can consider people with very little deviation to be weird because they’re too normal.
@resigned liberal that's because most media representations are of smart psychopaths, smart psychopaths and dumb psychopaths are very different things, dumb ones are kinda pitiful, smart ones are terrifying.
Yeah... this topic is such a minefield, and tabloid 'how to' videos are a dime a dozen on YT because they get clicks. It riles people up and gives them the illusion that they're able to diagnose people they don't like armed with a short checklist, which is both flattering and incredibly convenient since they don't need to check their own behavior. And before you know it, you have a more widespread and potentially just as harmful form of psychological abuse. Even seasoned professionals can find it very tricky to determine exactly what kind of psychopathology they're faced with, and they routinely argue, not just over the details, but the validity of entire classifications (something the history of the diagnostics manual clearly shows). Psychopathy comes in a great many shades and variations with different labels that intertwine with other forms again. Added to that, the exact nature of the human psyche is still not entirely clear, meaning that behavior patterns and the corresponding brain activity, will always be judged based on context, both in the impossibly complex interactions between multiple psyches, but also in the zeitgeist and the current expectations based on the values and needs de jour. Don't get me wrong. If you bump into a particularly cold, dangerous, unpredictable or abusive individual; by all means run away. Just don't convince yourself that you're necessarily able to clinically label them, and be equally on guard with people who seem to love doing just that.
Let's hear it for the DSM-5! Remember: "homosexuality" used to be listed as a disease. That sort of idea in the history of psychiatry is a good lesson as to why classifications are very imperfect. Actually, this latest edition of the 'Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders' does have quite a few improvements. Like Asperger's being on the spectrum. However, we are so far from understanding the mind. "It's complicated!" lol Your answer, QualeQualeson, is so well put! It's very kind of you to give such an elaborate and helpful comment here. Sort of a reminder to keep perspective when watching these vids. [Enjoying your eclectic playlist, "There's kerosene around, she's something to do." -Albini having fun with America's small-town psychopaths? Love it! It's on your list twice, btw]
@@suzramuse Thank you. That's very kind of you. Regarding the list, I don't spend much time on it anymore since I started using other music streaming services, but I'll take a look and see if I can find the double.
.... I'm mildly autistic. JUST VERY MILDLY. And that 7:15 list is pretty much me. Only big difference is that I either lack confidence or I'm overconfident. But one thing what my psychotesrapist told me how I know I'm not narcissistic or psychopath is that if I have an anxity about things it tells you that you aren't.. And darn I have anxity about everything. Or feel ashamed all the time.
My ex-wife is a psychopath, and unfortunately so is our daughter. There's no "fixing" a psychopath - if you discover that you are involved with one, all you can do is get as far away from them as possible.
Actually you can link good behaviour in the mind of a psychopathic child with reward, wich is extremly good since 'reward' (dopamine) is very important to them. I'd sugest finding a therapist specialising in this.
Joe, if you haven’t already, would you please cover a video on the different types of narcissists? I believe there are 6 or 7 types. I enjoy your videos and the humour you add along, with the intellect. Thank you.
I know a person with psychopathy (now the umbrella term for this stuff) that is aware and trying to be better. As backwards as it may sound because I'm autistic, she's my best friend. I'm naturally going to keep making sure I won't get hurt because I know the tactics and I'll gently call her out if it starts. She helps me understand and navigate social situations I would be too nervous to be in or understand. We're on opposite ends of this mind spectrum but we work together and use our strengths to help the other where we're weakest, it's a mutually beneficial relationship. Neither of us connect well with others. We definitely have a third party mediate any fights and then talk it out like civil adults. Also yeah she does like bitter things. Specifically bitter chocolates. Like those really dark cocoa chocolates. I feel like if I could taste the word bitter it would taste like a 100% organic cocoa chocolate bar. I'm the opposite and I prefer to eat strongly sweet tasting stuff like fruits or yellow bell peppers. I don't care what people say, as a vegetarian I can tell you that 100% the colours taste different. Like how you tell the different flavors of regular water. They do all have their own taste. I also strongly prefer the hottest peppers. I easy ate many California Reaper (1.5-2 mil scoville) grilled cheeses when I had the cheese. Do not plan to leave the house if you eat it. The fire that goes in is nothing like the one that comes out lmao the true test of tolerating hot peppers.
Absolutely true about the peppers - I didn't realize anyone thought they tasted the same. Your friendship sounds like a fascinating kind of symbiosis. May it continue to flourish for your mutual benefit - and society's.
@@Jackraiden500 That or NPD as well..sometimes even BPD or HPD..you have to think that being a "psychopath" or "sociopath" is a personality deficit..so basically most people would fall under one of the personality disorders if the deficit is enough to cause a clinical diagnosis..I just think people think it's cool to be labeled a psychopath compared to just Antisocial. Same thing happens with BPD..since this diagnosis has so much stigma..people prefer C-PTSD..which is not even a disorder yet.
Don't have kids, you definitely don't want to pass that to them. Is wouldn't be fair, because if any of them are like that, your grandkids will pay the price.
6:55 I was actually worried for years I could be a sociopath or psychopath, turns out theres actually quiet a bit superficially with psychopathy and autism!
@@tobesvalois8873 exactly. If the notion that you're a type of person best known for hurting other people fills you with any amount of dread, you're probably good, at least for the more severe forms of the illness. People with more mild symptoms (see: A lot of those CEOs and politicians) are aware of it, and make a conscious effort to limit the damage. That and there's other things that can cause reduced empathy, certain types of upbringing or stress can do it and that's not the same thing (yours truly over here. Have empathy, just not as much as I probably should have).
But what if you feel bad because you need people as pawns in your life and you made them mad and you dont know what the proper emotion is supposed to feel like so you chalk it down as remorse. Aaah The things that keep me up at night
Sounds like my estranged husband. He wanted to see me on mother's day last year he stuck around for three hours ringing my door bell. I am not his mother however, that's how he saw me , as he lost his at three. My daughter said no, she's alive at the time. Is that why his brother turned his head to me as I sat on the back seat of his car, while his brother, my then bf, sat on the passenger seat. He gave me the dirtiest look when bf said I was helping him find his mom. They knew, his broth3r and sister, were visiting her on Vermont where she was born. Remarried....when I told him of what my daughter said, he called me a list very loudly, he's 6'1 I am 5'. He was spitting angry at me. Did he ever hurt me, why, yes he did quite a few times. His brother was the only one to hear him they were all in other families not so good to them. He has all the listed nuggets.
My ex is a psychopath. I've said to friends that after 5 years of intensive daily research into his terrible behaviors and issues, I have a psychology degree from Google. Well, the daily article reading & videos, reading blogs etc started about six months in. Maybe closer to a year. I came to the conclusion that he has NPD, Narcissistic Personality Disorder. As time went on, after more research, after learning more about him, I had to conclude that he was a sociopath. In retrospect, I think I was trying to minimize his mental issues, "yes he has NPD but thank God he's not a sociopath!" When I had to admit to myself that he _is_ a sociopath, I thought to myself "well he is a sociopath, but thank God he's not a psychopath!" You guessed it, Not only did he display an incredibly selfish and controlling nature, a complete and utter lack of empathy, zero affection, no support or validation, and frequent uncontrollable rages... not only did he do all those things, all pointing to a sociopath, but much of it was premeditated. Aw, crap. I realized that he enjoys hurting people, and plans it ahead of time. So finally I had to conclude that he's a psychopath. He was very badly sexually abused by his own parents. There is a pretty clear connection between childhood sexual abuse and NPD, sociopathy, and psychopathy. So that is something to bear in mind, if the person in your life endured child abuse. My ex did, just the most extreme and horrible you can imagine, from age 8-15.
I just got out of a relationship with a psychopath. She cheated and tried to lie her way out of it despite video evidence. Refused to take responsibility even after showing her the video.
I was thinking the same thing about “get out girl” -like telling half of all young ladies to get out of their relationships (but I was going to add that the OTHER half of women need to get out too, since this applies to the “normal” relationship they were in that inevitably always evolves into the bad one!!!
@@julestremblay677 The left informed us many times that Trump isn’t their president. So when somebody refers to “their president” as a psychopath, who should we assume they mean? Probably the person they think SHOULD be the president, right? Therefore, OP means that Hillary Rodham Blythe (that’s Bill’s real last name, BTW) is a psychopath.
There are ways to tell if someone is a "psychopath" - this usually falls under the rubric of a type of "personality disorder", or more specifically, an emotionally or socially abusive person. One of the most important risk factors (more important than genetics) is abusive or negligent parenting. Huge topic, but there are some great resources out there for identifying these people, my favorite being "The Verbally Abusive Relationship: How to Recognize it and How to Respond", by Patricia Evans. (The title of the book is too narrow a description of the breadth of the topics that are covered. It DEFINITELY addresses psychopaths.). Highly recommended.
My hubby is a sociopath. We work very hard to help him lead a normal life. Watching him learn empathy and compassion is wonderful. He’s the best dad to our daughter and his logic is there when my emotional self can’t rationalize things. I love him. They’re not all helpless or hurtful.
I've had those times where I declare in a fit of exasperation " I just don't care any more!". But I do care, or it wouldn't be so frustrating. It must be very liberating to ACTUALLY not give a f^ck.
The other day someone called me a psychopath, I haven't responded to them so far, but that's okay I can get back to them anytime, they're still down in the pit.
I was trying to think of some classic misdirection for that and you nailed it good sir lol
@@argenfargen thanks bud..
The Pit of Despair?
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The first sign is probably when someone turns in their chair to introduce a topic of conversation lol.
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Funny funny
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“ I don’t care who you are, that’s funny!”
if you're worried about being a Psychopath, then you're probably not a psychopath.
that is the long story short!
for sure, they would be honored you thought that highly of them
" I failed the test, it wasn't me it was the test" lol.
I'm not worried, I'm curious
Im not worried im convinced i mean yea im convinced im a psychopath i generally like when bad things happen to others in a way im glad its not me because well duh why would you want it to be but i dont think im dangerous maybe unless you do something stupid like walk a dog in a stroller my foot might find itself behind the stroller but infront of your feet lmao
My mother was diagnosed with psychopathy. She had some of these traits but not all. She mostly wanted to do the right thing in the outside world because that was “logical” but she was a very abusive mother with 0 empathy for my sister and I. It was very confusing and I’m still realizing the depth of the insanity I went through as a child because this was my mother. Thank you for making this video.
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Depending on your age, she was directly or indirectly, by a generation or two, lived through the depression ww2 or recessions after.
I hope one day you can make room for some of her behaviors and try to minimize your expression of any of what you thought was problematic in yourself.
Also, if you are questioning the government about Israel and Ukraine or their medicinal decisions, the psychiatric field is also a human endeavor.
psychopathy isn't a recognized diagnosis. At best it describes a set of personality disorders.
Maybe she was more a narcissistic than psychopath, in the modern classification from the DSM-5 the narcissistic personality shares MANY traits with pshychos. Let’s say I knew a person in my family with that classification and is really really near to psychopathy
I empathise with you Raina, my mother was a very physical and mental abuser and at the time I hated my father for allowing her to be abusive. She is now 99 and still expects others to do her bitting. I find it hard on mothers day to find a card to send her because she was and still is none of the things the cards say.
My ex-wife was diagnosed as a narcissistic sociopath. I was lucky to get out of that relationship physically unscathed. She completely destroyed my life in every other way.
My mom and ex-wife are both covert narcissist, I figured ot my ex and a few months later my mom. I know I'm one hundred percent right cause if it has happened to you it has happened to somebody else. Daughters, Son, Sisters or brothers they have seen there odd behavior but the majority hasn't and guess who's side they will take.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you’re getting better
U will fix ur life man stay strong
Damn! Your strong! And at least you can warn people now...
Me too buddy, me too.
"Do you hate disabled people, now? Have you looked in the mirror? You're one to judge."😂 that was legit hilarious! Nice script this time.
Very entertaining intro...
@John Barber Work on yourself.
John Barber hating yourself is common so, yea, that’s almost normal behavior for the mentally disabled. (We have a group, well not so much a group, it’s just me cuz I hate all other ppl, so find help from someone who cares)
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Always the script that gets me...
Being raised by a psychopath (my mother) was an interesting and very dysfunctional ride. I have done extensive reading in my adult life on the subject of ASPD to learn tools of dealing with her, and have been somewhat successful in setting up boundaries as an adult that I lacked as a child. She is a good person, who tries to do the right things, but it is clear that in her mind ahe is the center of everything in the world, and that to her, no one is capible of understanding her, or being as important as her.
Even with boundries set up over many years now, it is truly impressive the skill in manipulation a true psychopath has, and how often I fall into old patterns without realizing it.
People with ASPD are still people, who (for the most part) want to be good, they just don't know how, and it is really important that you don't end up sacrificing yourself to try and teach them. Helping is okay, as long as you yourself are not being lost in the process.
Blade4952 I think your mother is just a sociopath because she wants to be good. I’m pretty sure actual psychopaths do not care if anyone thinks they are good and they have no aspirations to be good unless it gets them what they want.
Good luck on your journey. I'm glad you have tools now to help you.
Sounds more like narcissistic personality disorder
Blade4952 ok boomer
Would highly recommend learning about Non-violent Communication.
In my experience psychopaths are usually all smiles, successful, and popular. People who are NEVER in a bad mood, scare me.
How did you know they were psychopaths?
@@jasonspades5628 they get thrown in jail for atrosaties .
I think I may just be the opposite of a psychopath then. Haha. :(
I'm never in a bad mood. Def not a psychopath though. It's just about how i handle the situation I'm in.
@@mithramusic5909 I wouldn't say im never in a bad mood, but it is rare.
I used to hang out with a psychopath when I was living in hostel. I'm never gonna forget that guy. All the things Joe described is true af
I worked with a girl with the same symptoms and shes amazing in my eyes...😌
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@naka She means herself?
This is why I am always suspicious of particularly charming people, especially if they flatter me ... there was one coworker of mine who seemed to agree with me on everything I was saying when we were having a coffee (not in a super obvious way either, he would deftly reformulate the idea and respond in a different way like it was his own opinion and he was honestly pretty good at this) , but eventually I said: "you do a lot of mirroring, don't you?' He said "heh, you're the first person who's ever called me out on that..". Funny thing is, since I found out later that he was a psychopath, I'm pretty sure that must've been a lie, much like almost everything else he ever said.
I get shudders remembering how I ALmost dated him but fortunately I dodged that bullet!
“This is my costume. I’m a homicidal maniac. They look just like everybody else.” Wednesday Addams
that, and "Are they made from real girl scouts?" are my favorite lines from her
That was a three pointer .
All net .
"Correct. But which of them will bounce?"
Wednesday was the best :D
LOL You reminded me of all of the creepiest Wednesday Adams scenes, so I had to go find them.
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When you read this, you need to be aware that I have GAD (generalized anxiety dissorder), and fairly severe at that. I had a customer that turned out to be a psychopath. I did the accounting for his bussines, and when I detected something that added up to financial crime, I told them they had to find someone else. And I told the dude why. I also did what the law here in Sweden requier of accountants and reported the customer to the law enforcement dudes. This resulted in me and my wife recieving death threats and the company owner comming home to us to "reason with me" with the help of some edge tools (knife). In the end, I cracked and ended up at home to mentally sick to work. That in turn resulted in my business going under. The upside? Everyone - from authorities to other customers to the bank where our mortgage are was super nice and super understanding when I showed them the reason why I got a meltdown and went sick. I got a lot of help to get back to a working life, and we didnt need to sell our home. Oh, the bloody psychopath? He ended up in prison for a lot of reasons, and he lost basically everything he ever had. I think he is out now, but I know for a fact that he is forbidden to have any roll in a company board or even try to run any type of business again for what is basically life. It has been a little hell for me and my wife, but in the end justice and the law enforcment worked.
I understand extreme GAD, it can make life very challenging. I am very glad for you that everyone believed you, they were accommodating and agreeable. And you were able to get the requisite mental health so you were able to rebuild your life. That is wonderful!
While reading this, I thought, "This is unlikely in America." Here, I'm thinking, the psychopath gets away with it and the person and family are the ones who are ruined. One reason is that mental health problems and treatment are shunned, seen as personal weakness and failure. You can see how this would explain many things about America.
More than that, perhaps psychopaths are idolized to some degree, and people live in fear of them and are reluctant to stand up to them. There is less of a feeling that we are morally obligated to make an effort to go out of our way because we own a social responsibility to society.
I'm not entirely sure if this explains why I feel that, "This is unlikely in America."
Does anyone agree with me or perhaps have a better explanation? I would be interested!
Again, congratulations to you and your family. You did the right thing and I'm sure that's not easy anywhere. You did the hard work to get your life back. And, finally, you saw justice done!!!
@Hue ManI actually toyed with the idea of opening the door behind me, wish might have ended up with the same result as getting out a gun. We allways have some rescued dogs at home in the form of Pitbulls. Pitbulls are useless watching for someone that tries to steal your tv - they couldnt care less. But if someone in their pack gets agitated and threatened? Ouch! But I felt like i couldnt do that to our pups. Had my wife been alone at home, however... they were extremley defensive regarding her. Sadly, both has passed away due to old age - and they are sourly missed!
Erik Granqvist don't let violent people tell you that you should also be violent. You're a good man! Thanks for telling your story and for being a cool, sane person.
Erick you are such a brave person what a terrible thing for you to go through and yet you stood your ground and showed ppl what this person had done I don't know many ppl who would have had that sort of courage.
Lol, this is a brilliant moviescript, you realize that?!
The worst possible feeling is being someone who constantly overthinks and questions your own sanity and morality only to be gaslighted by someone.
I know exactly what you mean. I lived with that for over 7 years. I didn't realize it until toward the end of the relationship.
For most of it, I based my value on the feedback I was getting. Whether it be good or bad. Usually it was bad, because I didn't seem to be doing most things right, according to them.
As long as I made enough money, I had some value to them.
That's me and my lovely mother. She absolutely used my insecurity against me. I'm always willing to admit I may be wrong so an easy target to her. She made me question my own memory and sanity, she had me half convinced I was the maniac but I finally got up the courage to mention that to my psych (I never dared until age 30, approaching 32 now).
Last interaction, she called me 20 times at work. I deliver stuff so I'm in traffic and I don't answer the bloody phone, which I have told her a hundred times.
Got home called her back. Rejected my call 10 times, I asked WTF is going on? She began to insult me, "I don't care if you aren't feeling well blablabla and words that would lilkely get this autodeleted...)
I had two days earlier after similar incidents begged her to tone it down, that she was ruining my life, put me in such a foul mood for weeks I almost lost my job. I did actually but boss gave me another chance...
Well that was it. About 10 times I repeated the message:
You will calm down now. You will stop attacking and bullying me.
I want proof that you're not concealing your bipolar and more from the psych anymore! I want thr psychs phonenumber and I want her to go on antipsychotics.
She tells her psych she's just depressed and she can be super charming and pretend to be a wonderful person plus she's considered attractive so she gets psychs to write whatever she wants....
Or else I would block her forever and never speak to her again. She just kept insulting me...
I asked her to think very carefully if it was really worth loosing the only member of the family who still talks to her just to let off some steam.
If she needed to insist on ruining her life and mine by refusing all medication that adresses the actual issue, not just anti depressants. She likes those. I do too, thanks to her.
My psych says the laundry list is clinical depression (not responsive to SSRIs), social anxiety and possibly ptsd. Wants me to see a trauma specialist, I told him to fk off but I would think about it. He chuckled at that and gave me a link to some healthcare website were covered specialists offered spots...
Anyway I did end up blocking her that day. I felt so relieved. Her thing was to treat everyone like garbage and then play the victim because everyone was mean to her (I wonder why...) and blaming it on me, I ruined her life blablabla.
So I feel a little guilty, she has no one left now. But I warned her for years this would happen and for 5 years she managed. But she threw it all away in a day and I am done with her.
Whenever I think, maybe I should take pity I remember all those years of abuse and decide against it. My life, well being, self confidence etc... have all improved massively since breaking off all contact. I'm a crappy son, I know but she's a horrible mother so I think morally I still come out on top, not that it matters, I just can't risk loosing my job because I snap at someone after she yelled at me all night, barely intelligible manic and raving likely drunk... 31 years old bi*** I don't fall for that stuff anymore. Ibsee the manipulation and gas-lighting coming from miles away. I'm just disappointed when it turns out I was correct. I wouldn't mind being wrong on that one but she's never disappointed my worst expectations.
It was interesting that positive reinforcement was so effective with teenagers who showed psychopathic tendencies. It kind of ties back to what you said earlier about them having super charged dopamine centers. Rewarding for good behavior trains their brains that the best way to get dopamine highs is to do good. And since that dopamine high is so important for psychopaths, you're really demonstrating to them that its in their selfish best interest to do good. In the real world that is likely to continue reinforcing that trend since doing good for other people tends to lead to more good and therefore greater rewards.
Yep. And if you can rehabilitate 1/3rd of your criminals that way (ignoring that children below a certain age legally are not "criminals"), that means getting tough potentially creates 50% more criminals to deal with later. (Inverse of -33% is +50% for the math impaired.)
Better to get the "do good to others" snowball going, if you ask me.
I just saw this on a show, the child was a psychopath and the therapist convinced her she can get what she wants by doing what is right/good. She saw it as a reasonable path to get what she needs and wants when confronted with the alternative.
@@BikeHelmetMk2 Other countries have figured that out in their penal systems. We (USA) obviously have not. We train "better" criminals.
We make our criminal justice system itself punitive and psychopathic rather than nuanced and rehabilitation based and wonder why it doesn't seem to work to make our communities safer or help people live better lives.
3:20 i was trapped in a relationship for 5.5 years with a woman with ALL of these traits. I am only free because she drank herself to death. So PSA to men out there, Joe's advice "Get out girl.." applies to everyone.
edit: got to the end of the video. well tldr of my story.
if you were wondering how i was trapped in the relationship: She dragged me through 3 false domestic lawsuits when i tried to leave by hurting herself and then calling the police. more than once attacked me with a knife while drunk. i have a severed tendon in my hand. Domestic violence shelters told me they only had space for women, or just didn't take me seriously. Police laughed at me when i tried to go for help, when i tried to insist the told me "you don't want us to investigate, because if she contradicts your claim we'd be arresting you instead. " That chilled me to my core and killed any sense of hope i had that anyone would help me. My life is pretty much destroyed currently.
Jesus, that is horrendous. I hope things look up for you. I hope you're getting some kind of care after all this trauma, but if you live in America and aren't independently wealthy, that's probably not happening...
Sounds like Borderline personality Disorder. These people are truly "crazy-making". My mother was like that.
They are predators, they will suck you dry till there is nothing left of you and move on to the next prey.
The number of women who engage in domestic violence is surprisingly large. But because “you’re a man,” you should be able to “handle it.” Or “you’re bigger than her.” Or you should just “toughen up.”
Men are not necessarily much larger than their wives or girlfriends. And even if they are, if they’re not willing to dish out violence against their partner, they’ll be victims. Nobody wants to talk about this.
I'm so sorry you went through that man. Society doesn't think guys can be victims too. I was married to the absolute craziest woman I've ever known, and her true colors didn't shine until well after the big day. Long story short, 8 yrs of suffering later I finally ballsed up and left. She said if I didn't want her then I didn't want my daughter either, who was my whole world. She disappeared with my daughter 6 yrs ago, and I haven't seen her since. I had to be institutionalized for suicidal thoughts and behavior. Men can be victims too, no doubt. You'll be in my prayers Brother
I had a breakthrough when I believed I "stopped feeling" because movies used to scare me and I was scared of relationships that I thought I broke something. It was more of a hardened exposure coupled with mild anxiety of the unknown. Basically normal.
Well said. Here's something that came to me one day after yelling FUCK out loud while my smart phone was nearby. Within a few minutes, I received a TH-cam recommendation for this Ted Talk... th-cam.com/video/GwRzjFQa_Og/w-d-xo.html ✌
@@jacquepierregee Tedx.
Are there any legitimately good Tedx talks? I have a supremely prejudiced view of Tedx talks.
@@Blakearmin Tis a matter of taste, I imagine. Thought this one was a fun one to listen to, with someone giving a 'serious' presentation, based in so much unbridled fuckery. The fact that it came to me after yelling FUCK!, is a whole other level of entertainment, and concern...
Use to have severe panic disorder heart would palpate and I think I'm in the throes of death. I got sick of being at the mercy of my heartbeat, and due to some notions that were already brewing in my mind I just accepted that I was already dead. Panic attacks dissapeared completely went from 5mg Alprazolam + 4mg Clonazepam a day to benzo free soon after. Anxiety has only appeared possibly as butterfly's in stomach once since due to what I believe to be a female psychopath lol.
This was 6 years ago accepting myself as already dead freed me to myself however those around me seem to take issue to it. I'm never on time anymore it feels as if when I'm needed at a time that time it self run 10× faster and I don't really care about their time aside anyway.
Also have aged so little it can not be noticed physically sense its trippy.
I do yearn to feel alive at times however and it does have equal and opposite effects I'm dead already so why give AF?
@@tylersiegenthaler9656 that's a hefty dose of benzos! Even I didn't take that much recreationaly. I'm glad you're healthier now.
I love the way he just sits there waiting for the list to finish😂😂😂😂
😂😂 watching this with my boyfriend saying babe I'm pretty sure you might be a psychopath and then Joe says, " girl get out!" Hysterically and uncomfortable laughter, swipes keys and flees out the door! Lmao!
fr!?!?! Lmaoo😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂True?
Me looking at the list: Omg, thats me.
Joe: They like bitter food.
Me: oh thanks goodness.
You might be just a sociopath congrats!
Actually, the only question that you would need to ask yourself is: Do you lack empathy for other people?
Get in line chumpy you're one of us
@@kimberlyhovis5864 Empathy is such an old hat. People call themselves empaths nowadays just to express their superiority when it can't be measured in any way but only deduced from your actions. So if you have great empathy for a homeless person dying from freezing in front of you and you of course care but don't do anything to help, how can empathy can be proven? Also empathy has been said to exist in psychopaths but they tend to ignore it. So it is the same game of just not acting on your "empathy".
I like bitter food
The comment section is going to be glorious.
@Mark Keller sexy sexy china lady
I'm a bit surprised that Trump isn't near the top.
this is a perfect topic for juicy comments ! I was not let down
Ex Animus you’re a teensy bit deranged to believe that by itself tbh
I'm 4 and a half minutes in and I agree. I'm also a psychopath.
That “get out girl!” Got me😂😂😂😂
"You should play with other people's lives" "Have fun" "Take advantage of them" "it is normal".
"In the end, it is NOT your fault that they believe your lies".
A psychopath once gave me advice..... Scary!
lol
Yikes
Was he, or was he just Russian?
Okay just to be the devils advocate, does that mean these people are evil or does it mean that most folks are just too gullible and incapable of rational thought? Oh shit, does thinking like this make me a psychopath?
@@resonanceofambition Couldn't it be both? Like if evil people exist - which they do, you should have the appropriate defences, but that doesn't justify people being evil somehow lol. Like if you notice someone is "vulnerable", i.e. you could take advantage of them somehow, you are a bad fucking person if you decide to do that - but it doesn't mean they're "okay" being vulnerable. They shouldn't be vulnerable, that's not good either lol (obviously many things that make people vulnerable can't really be changed, but if they can be changed, it's right to change it)
Different failures of empathy:
1. You are not intellectually capable of imagining how you would feel as the other person.
2. It simply doesn't occur to you to look from the other's perspective.
3. You are capable of looking from another's perspective, but you just don't effen care.
4. You care, but your ingrained, habitual pattern is to not be empathetic.
5. You care about the other person's perspective, but you see their concerns as minor compared to a greater good (religion, political movement, or whatever).
6. You actually get off on the suffering of others.
7. You totally get the feelings of others, and you use that understanding to manipulate them for your own selfish purposes.
8. You could be anything from (1) to (7), or be normal, depending on what kind of day you're having.
Nobody ever said human behavior is simple.
They do not care about other people perspective or feelings, they observe behavior and make deductions. Oh I am supposed to act this way when someone is sad, I am supposed to care about other people when they are hurt so I will use these words like those people I saw on that movie. They mimic sane and normal behavior to get what they need and want and to blend in. They do love hurting others. They find out what you love and like so they can take it from you or keep it from you. It brings them great joy knowing they made you feel bad, or devastated. They love drama cuz that gives them advantage in interactions. Most of us get worn down and stressed with drama, they thrive on it. They dont care if it goes on and on. We are striving for peace and harmony, they love things stirred up. They are energy vampires, if you are weak you are easier to steal from.
"Nobody ever said human behavior is simple." - Well good portion of the population likes to simplify things(especially in those places where education is inadequate)..they also like to make connections where there aren't any (at least nothing concrete , subjective opinions & public perception play role here(just a hunch))...¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
I feel sick now... I hate the thoughts of the things I can't make go away... I wish I could not care as much as them... Then I wouldn't have to feel this way...
If you isolate from people that have three of these traits, are you psychopathic???
EVERYONE is a mask of PSYCHOPATHIC behavior!?? 🌃💫🌍 Sorry
"All those people drinking kale shakes out there... psychopaths!" hahahah
From the psychopath federation. We take no offense because we just don’t care enough to care at all but, we aren’t totally lacking in a sense of humor over the diet conscious beast among the heard
I drink Cinzano Rosso. I think I have the gene.
@@shadowdance4666 when you said "heard" I heard "herd".
Malcolm Mellon where do you live exactly because I need to thank you personally for your astute attention to detail and a much more elevated desire to correct my spelling than the average bare. You should be rewarded properly
@@shadowdance4666 i cannot bare your barefaced psychopathic spelling of bear
Plot twist: the mendota centre has a 34% success rate at teaching psychopaths to not get caught for their crimes.
Yeah, we should just kill anyone with any kind of mental illness. They obviously have no hope, so let’s get rid of them.
the issue is like once you understand ,what they are just get rid of them in good way no pressure !
@@zebdawson3687 uhhhhh
Teachs them to be better liars, learn fake remorese, etc
@@zebdawson3687 uhm Hilter's incarnate is that you?
The other day, someone called me a psychopath.
I'm not sure how to feel about that.
lol
WHO CARES WHAT THE SHEEP THINK
makes them lack empathy so that makes THEM psycopath!
and I guess now me, by that logic
@@davidklein1667
"If you’ve ever been on a coffee date with someone who chose black coffee over the typical indulgent caffeinated creation, you might want to take your latte and run. Apparently, you might be on a date with a psychopath."
From an article, come on :) this is ridiculous!
Hyπατία
and Τὸ Μέγα Θηρίον in the same thread! Do you guys know each other?
Wow, very enlightening. It just clicked that this friend I have had since age 5 clearly fits this description. We are 50 so I have had ample time to observe him always starting new Ponzi schemes, cycling through relationships with women, etc. He has never been a violent person so I never thought this term applied.
every humans have still his ideals. and fears...hurting other is bad, and maybe he is just fine with some alc and woman. if you want violence in a peacefull way? full contact martial arts, boxing instructor or ballet trainer^^
@@danielchoritz1903 Psychopath doesn't care whether something is wrong. They don't have empathy, so they don't even comprehend that other people have feelings. They consider others just a resources to use for their own benefit.
@@dasik84 Senator Joe McCarthy was like this. He honestly didn't understand why people were so upset with him, unless of course, they were communists.
@@veramae4098is that you Jane Fonda?
I don't have anything to add. I just like your videos and I'm commenting to help you with the youtube algorithm.
A noble cause
I agree
Here goes nothing....
I didn't know that helps a channel.. Makes sense though. I'll have to start doing it more
@@Sharpman34 i didn't know either.
Yeah, I knew one. The oldest son of my godparents, who lived across the street and were our playmates growing up. He killed at least 11, and possibly as many as 21 people. He always seemed strange but never showed any sign of violence. He was like a big brother, helping me buy my first car and showing me around his college.
Thats fucking crazy man
Psychopaths are very in control of themselves. They can act all different ways
his name ...
OK. Good example of a comment that almost certainly isn't true.
Lol yuh okie buddyyy
First sign of a psychopath... back facing camera then turning around at the start of a video. Hi.
In related news... I love blood oranges. Bitter goodness. Damn it.
BLOOD ORANGE JUICE IS THE BESSSSSTTTTT!
I used to love eating grapefruit like an orange.
Then I developed empathy and I was like.
Wtf am I doing.
I freaking love bitter foods! LOL. I always say that it makes me feel alive..... I knew I had problems but now its confirmed. Dammit!
What's so bitter about blood oranges?
Swivels in his chair; Like a Bond villain. All that's missing is the cat... :-D
I’ve done a bit of studying about this because of my daughter. What I found was that psychopathy is something you’re born with. Sociopathy is something you develop.
trix Rabbit ok
Gabe Denty Dude, that’s depression, have someone talk to you personally. Try to schedule some time with a therapist, it will work wonders
Gabe Denty the difference is that depression causes sociopathic behaviors, and more. While a sociopath certainly wouldn’t have really noticed anything was wrong to begin with
Gabe Denty
I do believe "normal" people can develop "sociopathic" or psychopathic behaviors/tendencies over time, due to their experiences, but if you're worrying if you'll end up being a psychopath, I can say: no. You don't have to worry about that. Psychopathy (antisocial personality disorder) is a personality disorder that affects someone's whole personality, that means it's who they are as a person. You can only "become" a psychopath (or a sociopath, which is not a scientific term) when you undergo a change in your personality, which doesn't happen very easily, unless you have some kind of a brain damage or a tumor.
Trauma doesn't cause psychopathy, if you're an adult.
I heard that one thing a lot of modern psychopaths have in common is that they watch a lot of Joe Scott videos.
"Can you validate my parking?... No?
shhhhhhh.....
Oh are u butthurt?
VALIDATE MY PARKING SHEEP
@@lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 My butt actually does hurt. Thank you for asking!
The decompression model honestly is one of the most effective ways to treat offenders from what I've read, I forget which scandinavian county ( probably norway ) uses this and have one of the highest rates of turn around in behavior of prison systems
Yeah people joke about the comfy prisons in Skaninavia and it is kinda hard to see a murderer living in such luxury and being treated so well but it works... their fancy prisons with well lit rooms and designer architecture are pretty empty on a per population basis. And systems that focus on punishement have overfilled prisons and rampant crime. Of course it's not as simpel as that but still.
@@221b-l3t People talk about the Scandinavian prisons as being a "luxury lifestyle", but they are really not. First of, you always see the 2-3 same few example prisons that are being used (Halden being the most showed), and those special prisons run test-programs because they are designed that way and can afford it, much more than regular Scandinavian prisons.
Also the special prisons like Halden are supposed to mimic more of a college dormitory lifestyle, though one where your day is strictly regulated, since at the end of the day, it's still a prison.
Also if the inmates really found Scandinavian prisons so luxurius, why are most of them not coming back, or wanting to come back? Because they got a great balance between being humane while not *too* lenient. So while of course nobody is scared of going back to Halden prison, they still don't want to.
@@221b-l3t It doesn't work. A 5% chance of rehabilitating them means 95% are released back in to society. It's a failed system that needs to modernize.
@@user-nk5es9iy8i Relax, I'm Swiss. Our prisons are also famously nice, but not as nice as Skandinavia. And yes some people have asked for prison instead some milder punishment because you get 3 meals a day. There was this famous case a few years back that was pretty funny.
So does that mean that everybody who interacts with these people needs to keep keep rewarding them for good behavior the rest of their lives? That’s a big ask. If there’s amonster that will killnyou if you don’t keep feeding him cookies, I think I’d rather eliminate the monster than have to bring a cookie jar every time he’s around.
Literally my mother fits all of the descriptions of a psychopath, really explains a lot of my childhood.
Same my life hell untill You tube wake me up one day.
That must have been awful sorry you had to go through that
I may have one of these in my life. 28 years of holding on(it’s my child) has led to all of it culminating to a pretty dramatic climax, basically, tomorrow. I find it interesting that this video was posted today. I have been subscribed for some time. Enjoy the videos, and bought your movie on Amazon. I guess, I am a fan of a TH-camr. I never thought I would say that. For me, the timing and content of this video was so relevant, I had to become a sponsor. Keep doing what you do Joe! You never know the impact it will have on people!
Hopefully just getting tested, that's what I was presuming atleast lol. No matter the verdict I hope the best for all of you, I am like 90% sure I am a socio and clicked on this knowing i was going to feel salty but i am happy he was far less damning than most people are on this topic.
@@argenfargen Two of the best people I've known were devoid of empathy and could turn other emotion off at will. "Intelligent self interest" can lead to a "normal" typical moral code; one was in near total agreement with me (difference: I'm a vegetarian animal lover). Both would be great to have around in a dangerous emotional situation, they'd funtion. I believe there's a reason evolution/adaptation never eliminated the trait.
@@Gentleman_Orange exactly. helpful at times.
Wow my stepdad falls into all of these categories. It’s a miracle I’m still alive
7:49 Yes, I was diagnosed as having Secondary Psychopathy comorbid with boarderline personality disorder, stemming from bipolar disorder. The part about favoring Logical thinking is true and it’s because of this I took Spock as a roll model. If one is not encumbered by societal ideals then why should one sink to their expectations brought on by the negative connotation of a diagnostic label. We are who we choose to be, and logic dictates that an asset advances further amongst ones peers than does an antagonist.
He should make a shirt “Get Out Girl. Get Out... Answers with Joe”
Reading this before the joke made me get coke in my nose
DoctorMeh That’s the usual way of taking it. Oh, you meant Coca-Cola.
@@daerdevvyl4314 lol. Nice.
Psychopaths don't experience anxiety, women are attracted to guys with confidence. Usually women are very attracted to psychopaths and then constantly complain what a jerk they are. By the way autistic people also can't really feel empathy, the difference is that they feel anxiety.
@@jeffk464 Also women are predisposed to be sexually attracted by the dominant males, therefore so often emotionally see criminals and even serial killers as dominant males which reasonably generate fear and avoidance in civilised society.
That's named hybristophilia.
Diagnosed ASPD/NPD here. Years ago, I decided to try turning my narcissism on itself. I decided I knew I could make myself a better human being. I've been at it for over a decade, and while I've made improvements, I still struggle with basic human stuff. I offend (often) the people I love, and yes, I do love. The more I try the more my brain rewires itself. I'm happily engaged to a woman I ADORE, and my 16/yo son is a frigging genius. I rely on the feedback they give me to adjust my behavior. Will I ever be normal? No. But, I can do my best not to be a piece of crap. I live by a code now.
*Don't be a dick
*Don't be a pussy
*Don't be an asshole
You could teach Trump a thing or two.
As someone who's tried to reform mental tendencies that are unpleasant to most I can really respect that way of working on yourself.
Hey, as long as you try your best, thats all anyone can ask of you. So many dont even try, its their way or no way. Your code sounds awesome! Kudos and good luck in your next decade. Im rooting for you :)
People with NPD are resistant to taking responsibility for their behaviour and seeing faults within themselves. What methods did you use to overcome these hurdles? How have you been progressing over the last 4 years? Did you tie the knot?
My sister is most likely a psychopath. She has tortured me my whole life and only recently have other people in our family seen her true intentions. Now everyone believes me, only took ~30 years of pain....
So sorry that has happened to you
This is just evidence that humans are all psychopaths. The only reason we differentiate with labels and think some are and some aren't is due to the perceived actions on a case by case basis. If a psychopath never in their lifetime does "a psychopathic thing", does that make them not a psychopath? If so, is a person who thinks identically before and after they do their first "psychopathic thing" not a psychopath before they do it, and is a psychopath after they do it? Or were they a psychopath the whole time? So many questions. So little reason. Have a great day!
I hear you! Both sides of my family enabled and endulged my sister, no one would set any boundaries with her, she destroyed our family and my own family, too, almost 50 years for people to see her for what she is on both sides of the family, she was a firefighter so she could get out of a dui or anything else her whole life, well she got cancer and just died, so who has the last laugh, not sure if her being dead makes up for all horrible treatment, manipulation and abuse. But I am alive and she's not so fuck her. Hope this helps.
@@anthonylosego You must be demented yourself if you actually believe that.
@@anthonylosego Believing that is actually a characteristic of psychopaths. Because they’re incapable of feeling love, they believe that it doesn’t exist and all the people who claim to feel it are lying or pretending. But brain scans reveal that there are differences between psychopaths’ brains and non psychopaths’ brains.
In answer to your questions, a psychopath is a psychopath regardless of his or her behavior, but certainly it can be harder to determine this in some cases than others. To use this as evidence that there is really no distinction is nonsensical.
The first part hit so hard. The amount of times that’s happened to me from folks with DID, psychopathy, and sociopath diagnosis is really screwed up. I honestly have given up tryin to involve myself in the mental illness community because of them.
And CLEARLY not all are bad people so go away if you wanna comment this.
The main trait of psychopath is the lack of empathy. Even if they aren't murdering people on daily basis, they are evil. In the best case, they are just manipulating and using others.
Narcissists are the other evil kind of mental disorder. It's even recommended not to fight with a narcissist because they will ruin your life or even kill you.
@@dasik84 Most psychopaths are functional, using a lack of empathy to get things done it others hesitate. For example, they love to take risks and are excellent at doing what needs to be done. For they are immune to anxiety and fear. That's why they are excellent surgeons, bomb-disarmers, snipers and astronauts.
4:00
Wait, pomegranates are _bitter?_ In what friggin' universe?!
You see, Joe just bites into them with their peel on
I think people confuse bitterness with astringent.
@@AlcyoneEtaTauri that's one tough and bitter skin to go through lol
The flesh and juice of the seeds are very sweet, but the stones and peel are bitter.
@@rogiermodderman4499 he has strong teeth, don't worry. If Kore/Persephone can do that then he can too
My girl told me about your new video when I was drinking my wheatgrass this morning. Now she has everyone making fun of me calling me a psyco so thanks for that Joe.
Wheatgrass kmt
I absolutely worked for a psychopath. Thankfully it didn't last long as I was able to find a better job shortly after she was hired.
I worked for attorneys my entire working career. Amazing how many of them exhibited signs on the psychopathy list.
College first year in the dorms. I lived the farthest end dorm room, and at the other end of the wing (about 10 rooms), police broke in, arrested a guy, and he never came back. I found out from his roommate that apparently he was making death threats against his roommate and potentially was going to kill him. It was so insane to hear that he was leaving these notes around the dorm room saying he was going to do it.
The kale shake thing got me 😂😂😂
I now have a great excuse to NEVER have a kale shake...or anything else KALE. Ugh.
Diarrhea?
😆
@SH
Love ur channel 💕
@@robertgaines-tulsa That was funny. :-)
Some people have a "psychopath radar" they get the chills when one is around .. look that up it's fascinating ..
From an evolutionary point of view it makes perfect sense!
My father was a pyscho and as an adult I can spot them in a room.
@@staticgrass interesting.
I tried googling it and I found nothing do you have some sources and could link them thanks! I want to know!
Edit: Also this sounds like another random Thursday topic that joe should do!
@@staticgrass Could you explain what kicks off that sense in you? What is it about them that makes you be able to spot one?
6:14 - so bascially
Sociopath -> Chaotic Neutral
Psychopath -> Chaotic Evil
😁
Psychopath would be lawful neutral
Or
Sociopath -> Neutral Evil
Psychopath -> Neutral Killer
from Town of Salem
I would say sociopath - Chaotic neutral with tendances towards evil and psychopath is any evil alignment.
@Brainjock Dungeon & Dragons character alignments. A character can be either Lawful, Neutral or Chaotic and either Good, Neutral or Evil. So as an example Robin Hood would be Chaotic Good whereas the Sheriff of Nottingham is Lawful Evil.
IMO a psychopath would be Neutral Evil and a sociopath would be True Neutral
@Brainjock alignment from DnD and pathfinder.
I was diagnosed as a high functioning sociopaths. Similar but not the same. And I can tell you from my own experience, that if someone is too care free about everything, is too kind, is all smiles, but never angry out in public, but angry in private, seems too good to be true. Best to stay away, unless you feel confident in protecting yourself.
What is the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath?
@@henyo5409 Mainly. Sociopaths are made by people, events, environments, and upbringings. Psychopaths are born. Their brain doesn't develop correctly. However the behaviors of both are similar.
@@ivanstayner8818 Thanks!
Wow! Mendota results are spectacular.
This one was shorter than usual - pitty. You probably dug out more interesting tidbits to share.
Great topic! I didn’t realize that treatment in children was so effective. Everyone should know this info.
Effective
actually, most treatment centers are just really bad
There’s an interesting counter argument I heard about recently.
Some group of researchers tried empathy training on psycho/sociopaths and concluded that the subjects became better at manipulating people without altering their core selfishness.
C’est la vie.
@@harpodjangorose9696 W.C. Fields had a "treatment for children": Boiling!! ;D
Ron Schlorff - “Children! Drown them like puppies!” - W.C.Fields
My father suffers from substance-induced psychopathy.
He's a beautiful, wonderful person when he's sober, but turns into a monster when he's intoxicated.
My mother is the same. Although I haven't seen her in 13 years for this reason.
They don't tend to end that well. That alcohol demon takes them down and keeps them there.
Same dude, and unfortunately I as well inherited the fate of being INSANE when I'm EXTREMELY intoxicated.
@@PleaseForgiveYourself yeah man. The struggle is real. I wish you all the best. Don't forget that you're bigger than the demons inside you.
This is a bit late but I don't think that's a thing that exists? The only thing I could find was substance-induced psychosis, which is psychosis (delusions or hallucinations) triggered by substance abuse. Maybe that results in dangerous and antisocial behavior exalted by the intoxication. But psychopathy is generally seen as traits people have at their baseline. So yeah.
I’m a bit of a sociopath. I’ve been working on it for most of my adult life and have had some success at becoming more empathetic.
Congratulations 💕
Explain more
Then you are not a psycopath. They can not change.
@Senjinone he didn’t claim to be a psychopath
@@Senjinone yes, that is correct, which is why he said *sociopath* and not psychopath.
When that list started scrolling up, I started thinking of... someone.
Good chance you're probably thinking of that same person right now.
Yes. Him.
Voldemort
Tronald Dump?
7 Psyhopaths liked your comment lol or atleast for now . " gotta catch `em all "
I know exactly who you're talking about. DT.
The most faaaaamous man in the whoooole wooooorld! 🤣 Yep he'd be the poster boy if you could fit his fat ass on a poster
Very informative video on psychopathy! I remember having a discussion about psychopaths with a psychiatrist once. He stated that it’s a common misconception that psychopaths ever achieve high statuses, such as CEOs and politicians. In fact, it’s almost impossible for them, due to their strong tendency towards hurting others, which invariably ruins their networking abilities.
Hmm... but its my understanding they are also very charming when they want to be, and good at hiding their true selves.
Socioopaths, yes. Psychopaths? No. They can keep up the charm in public as long as it gets them nearer what they want ... the positions of power. And the nearer they get, the harder is it to find them out because those below them know it's their job and credibility on the line if they do say anything. And it helps if they have a family or other outlet to take their bad side out on behind the scenes.
@@DianeMerriam I agree. Sociopaths are generally unable to hide their off-center behavior. Psychopaths can. I believe they reach top leadership positions in part because they don't care who they run over to get there.
“You won’t find the definitions in mental health’s official handbook, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. Doctors don’t officially diagnose people as psychopaths or sociopaths. They use a different term instead: antisocial personality disorder.”
In North America, there isn’t currently a clear distinction between the two. This causes a lot of confusion in conversation, so I wanted to point that out.
To make it even more confusing, antisocial personality disorder describes only the violent, criminal extreme of the psychopathic spectrum. There’s no official DSM designation for what’s recognized as psychopathy.
…And this is one of the many reasons the DSM is crap.
Psychopaths will usually still adhere to social rules, which are culture specific. They may even cling to social norms as a way of functioning in society. And they usually don't understand that there is anything 'wrong with them'. Sociopaths don't care about rules or laws, which are social constructs. When it comes to the crunch of getting what they want, they are perfectly aware that they are happy to break the rules to.acheive their goals. Psychopaths find interpersonal relationships handwork, but are happy to.use social constructs to help.them navigate relationships.
@@sonjacharles2457 Most definitions reverse the two, so psychopaths are the more violent and dangerous of the two.
If violence is not one of the options used to achieve a goal, what I have said is still correct, as far as I can interpret. People think that both these types.of people are violent, but that is not generally the case. They are usually calculating enough not to need violence. It's just that the ones make.make the headlines.do.so.because they have done something horrific.
@@mrjones2721 I'm not talking about violence
Got out of a 8y long relationship with a psychopath two years ago. Still feel embarrassed, I was in that relationship, since I probably knew he was a psychopath for the major part of the relationship. When I left, he somehow managed to keep a lot of my belongings, so after two years, all I have left from the relationship is anxiety trauma...yearhh.
You took the only thing that matters. The rest can be replaced. Good for you for getting out.
One of the tell signs is when someone in a room yawns and most people yawn with them. Watch out for the person who does not yawn, they quite possibly are antisocial. Yawning after seeing someone else yawn is a involuntry sign of empathy; something usually absent in psychopaths.
Wow great advice
is it not an instinct?
i heard that Psychopaths don’t blink more often.
3:50 no man, I'm watching that list thinking "that's my ex wife" and she put a pretty face with the judge and walked away with my kid after destroying 10 years of savings. Unfathomable depression got the better of me, but I'm still here to fight another day! But my kid spent her childhood like an orphan... Unfathomable frustration... Like fighting bloody Darth Vader 🤯
Everything on that list applies to Donald Trump
I'm so sorry that has happened to you. It reminded me of an opposite case - my uncle married a psychopath and they had 3 children together. When they got divorced, the wife failed at hiding her true nature from the judge and my beloved uncle got custody of ALL THREE kids. Amazing, that doesn't usually happen in Washington state.
@@struckfire3337 The man lays out a heart wrenching life story, and all you can do is drag politics into it?
@@Justin73791 I bet your hypocrisy is huge. I bet you're a Donald Trump fan. Which means that your Hippocratic about everything you talk about freedom speech while people that talk about speech that you don't agree with you want band. You talk about Justice but let the police and anyone that happens to agree with your politics get away with everything including murder. Like Kyle Rittenhouse literally went to literally do what he did he said it before he did it. And he took racist tones while doing it. Literally using that word. But yet he somehow managed to raise on a GoFundMe campaign Millions upon Millions upon millions of dollars. Your hypocrisy runs deep the worst thing you can be is a hypocrite and I guarantee that that's what you are. You're going to chide me like a baby because you're too dim-witted to understand that this guy everything that comes out his mouth is a lie. You know it in your heart but you still won't admit it because of your hypocrisy. Okay clown
@@struckfire3337 Wow.... I've never heard someone who doesn't know me judge me with such extensive wording.
The vast majority of what you wrote I don't even recognize.
Congratulations, you've projected your bitterness of the world onto someone just trying to tell a guy I'm sorry for his loss.
"oh, sheila wouldn't take it that far..." * sheila buries a cleaver into claudia's skull *
I became psychotic/temporarily psychopathic when I was weaned too fast off of lexapro by my inexperienced Doctor. Almost a complete change in my personality ß I was completely out of my mind for several months and I'm glad I didnt hurt anyone during that time as I was finding it very difficult to control my anger, rage and hatred. Doing great now but that was a very scary time for me and gave me a small taste of what every day must be like for a psycho.
Last time I was this early, Joe hadn't even started spinning his chair around yet.
"and we were off to the races!"
Never sipping at anything while watching your channel ever again.
Mike Borthwick “the third human ever murdered the forth human ever” can you name them 2?
Cane and Able ?
MrBizteck holy macaroni!
Cheese n rice!!
Good job the internet wins again
@@Favx lol .... them years as an Alterboy not totally wasted...😂😂
That joke got me by surprise! Lol
You have quickly become one of my favorite youtubers, love the topics of your vids 😎👍
I have autism and I was always called a psychopath because I can’t always show emotion or empathy. I care, I just can’t show it. It’s hard, being called something so horrible when you know you can’t control it.
do one on "How To Tell If Someone Is A sociopath" where you go into more details please
Sociopath and Psychopath are outdated terms and both would be considered Antisocial Personality Disorder, the most common difference between what the mainstream would know about the difference is that Psychopaths are by nature (due to genetic or other physical anomalies) unable to have empathy towards others, where as Sociopaths are those that by nurture (being raised in an extremely violent environment, or other environmental factors) forced them to naturally develop psychopathic behaviors as a defense mechanism in order to survive.
@@HerbaMachina Good, now why is it normal to be normal!! ;D
Ron Schlorff Because normal is defined as having characteristics tending toward average. Height, for example. Add up everybody’s height and divide by the number of people and you get average. So if someone mostly has characteristics close to average, they’re considered normal. However, there is a concept called “standard deviation.” When you compare people to the average, you will find that almost everybody has some deviation, some “weirdness.” If you measure each person’s deviation and then again divide by the number of people, you get standard deviation. Then you can consider people with very little deviation to be weird because they’re too normal.
Most of them want your pity. Having your pity is like having the strings to your personal puppet. They manipulate you.
@resigned liberal that's because most media representations are of smart psychopaths, smart psychopaths and dumb psychopaths are very different things, dumb ones are kinda pitiful, smart ones are terrifying.
That's it, I'm now thinking everybody I know is a psychopath...
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3:54 🤣😂🤣 THIS! This keeps me coming back for more!
I still can’t get over the upbeat music in even the most serious videos
"Get out girl, get out"
I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL, JOE!!!! Entertaining & Informative!
Yeah... this topic is such a minefield, and tabloid 'how to' videos are a dime a dozen on YT because they get clicks. It riles people up and gives them the illusion that they're able to diagnose people they don't like armed with a short checklist, which is both flattering and incredibly convenient since they don't need to check their own behavior. And before you know it, you have a more widespread and potentially just as harmful form of psychological abuse.
Even seasoned professionals can find it very tricky to determine exactly what kind of psychopathology they're faced with, and they routinely argue, not just over the details, but the validity of entire classifications (something the history of the diagnostics manual clearly shows). Psychopathy comes in a great many shades and variations with different labels that intertwine with other forms again. Added to that, the exact nature of the human psyche is still not entirely clear, meaning that behavior patterns and the corresponding brain activity, will always be judged based on context, both in the impossibly complex interactions between multiple psyches, but also in the zeitgeist and the current expectations based on the values and needs de jour.
Don't get me wrong. If you bump into a particularly cold, dangerous, unpredictable or abusive individual; by all means run away. Just don't convince yourself that you're necessarily able to clinically label them, and be equally on guard with people who seem to love doing just that.
You mean, like yourself?
Let's hear it for the DSM-5! Remember: "homosexuality" used to be listed as a disease. That sort of idea in the history of psychiatry is a good lesson as to why classifications are very imperfect. Actually, this latest edition of the 'Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders' does have quite a few improvements. Like Asperger's being on the spectrum. However, we are so far from understanding the mind. "It's complicated!" lol
Your answer, QualeQualeson, is so well put! It's very kind of you to give such an elaborate and helpful comment here. Sort of a reminder to keep perspective when watching these vids.
[Enjoying your eclectic playlist, "There's kerosene around, she's something to do." -Albini having fun with America's small-town psychopaths? Love it! It's on your list twice, btw]
@@suzramuse Thank you. That's very kind of you. Regarding the list, I don't spend much time on it anymore since I started using other music streaming services, but I'll take a look and see if I can find the double.
@@QualeQualeson Recommendations on that, por favor?
@@suzramuse Recommendations on...? Other streaming services?
42 seconds in and I've enthusiastically liked and subscribed! Now to begin a delightful binge! 😊
Oh, I envy you your first Joe Scott binge! Such fun
Mendota In Madison, WI! Good info Joe, I drive past there every day for work and had no idea they were working on programs like you described.
I loved that opening "psychopaths have been with us since the beginning, the 3rd human literally killed then 4th"
.... I'm mildly autistic. JUST VERY MILDLY. And that 7:15 list is pretty much me. Only big difference is that I either lack confidence or I'm overconfident.
But one thing what my psychotesrapist told me how I know I'm not narcissistic or psychopath is that if I have an anxity about things it tells you that you aren't.. And darn I have anxity about everything. Or feel ashamed all the time.
DUDE! I FEEL YOU 💯
I can relate, I was raised a Catholic.
My ex-wife is a psychopath, and unfortunately so is our daughter. There's no "fixing" a psychopath - if you discover that you are involved with one, all you can do is get as far away from them as possible.
I’d imagine that’s difficult, do you look at her differently because you know this?
So you left your daughter fatherless?
What the heck. abandonment can't be helpful.
Actually you can link good behaviour in the mind of a psychopathic child with reward, wich is extremly good since 'reward' (dopamine) is very important to them. I'd sugest finding a therapist specialising in this.
@@ESOTERICSAGENESS I'd safely assume his daughter was old enough to look after herself before he got out
My neighbor downstairs tried much of what you used in your opening. I got a security doorbell.
Joe, if you haven’t already, would you please cover a video on the different types of narcissists? I believe there are 6 or 7 types. I enjoy your videos and the humour you add along, with the intellect. Thank you.
I know a person with psychopathy (now the umbrella term for this stuff) that is aware and trying to be better. As backwards as it may sound because I'm autistic, she's my best friend. I'm naturally going to keep making sure I won't get hurt because I know the tactics and I'll gently call her out if it starts. She helps me understand and navigate social situations I would be too nervous to be in or understand. We're on opposite ends of this mind spectrum but we work together and use our strengths to help the other where we're weakest, it's a mutually beneficial relationship. Neither of us connect well with others. We definitely have a third party mediate any fights and then talk it out like civil adults.
Also yeah she does like bitter things. Specifically bitter chocolates. Like those really dark cocoa chocolates. I feel like if I could taste the word bitter it would taste like a 100% organic cocoa chocolate bar. I'm the opposite and I prefer to eat strongly sweet tasting stuff like fruits or yellow bell peppers. I don't care what people say, as a vegetarian I can tell you that 100% the colours taste different. Like how you tell the different flavors of regular water. They do all have their own taste. I also strongly prefer the hottest peppers. I easy ate many California Reaper (1.5-2 mil scoville) grilled cheeses when I had the cheese. Do not plan to leave the house if you eat it. The fire that goes in is nothing like the one that comes out lmao the true test of tolerating hot peppers.
Absolutely true about the peppers - I didn't realize anyone thought they tasted the same.
Your friendship sounds like a fascinating kind of symbiosis. May it continue to flourish for your mutual benefit - and society's.
A friend of mine has a little sister that got tested and she isn't a psychopath but now i think its bc she is a sociopath
Psychopath and Sociopath is not a medical diagnosis so you will not be diagnosed as either.
@@angiem8434 yep, it would be diagnosed as aspd + or - depending on whether it's "psycopathy" or "sociopathy" if memory serves.
@@Jackraiden500 That or NPD as well..sometimes even BPD or HPD..you have to think that being a "psychopath" or "sociopath" is a personality deficit..so basically most people would fall under one of the personality disorders if the deficit is enough to cause a clinical diagnosis..I just think people think it's cool to be labeled a psychopath compared to just Antisocial. Same thing happens with BPD..since this diagnosis has so much stigma..people prefer C-PTSD..which is not even a disorder yet.
How she got tested? Because she can lie on a test😂
“Get our girl! Get out!😳”
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That was a scary, hysterical intro! 😝 And you did it so well!!
9:48 "Do you know any psychopaths?" My dad.
Yeah and it’s genetic. Good luck
Don't have kids, you definitely don't want to pass that to them.
Is wouldn't be fair, because if any of them are like that, your grandkids will pay the price.
This video has aged remarkably well through COVID pandemic. It has revealed many-a psychopath on every side of the debate over its many issues.
6:55 I was actually worried for years I could be a sociopath or psychopath, turns out theres actually quiet a bit superficially with psychopathy and autism!
As a general rule, if you are worried you might be a psychopath, you aren't one.
@@tobesvalois8873 exactly. If the notion that you're a type of person best known for hurting other people fills you with any amount of dread, you're probably good, at least for the more severe forms of the illness. People with more mild symptoms (see: A lot of those CEOs and politicians) are aware of it, and make a conscious effort to limit the damage.
That and there's other things that can cause reduced empathy, certain types of upbringing or stress can do it and that's not the same thing (yours truly over here. Have empathy, just not as much as I probably should have).
@@tobesvalois8873 what if you hope your one
@@tobesvalois8873 phew...
But what if you feel bad because you need people as pawns in your life and you made them mad and you dont know what the proper emotion is supposed to feel like so you chalk it down as remorse. Aaah The things that keep me up at night
Well this was just creepy. But as always my dudd, great content and excellent editing. You never disappoint!
Joe: "Few thing are as thrilling as hurting other people"
Me: "Oh really! :::)))"
Sounds like my estranged husband. He wanted to see me on mother's day last year he stuck around for three hours ringing my door bell. I am not his mother however, that's how he saw me , as he lost his at three. My daughter said no, she's alive at the time. Is that why his brother turned his head to me as I sat on the back seat of his car, while his brother, my then bf, sat on the passenger seat. He gave me the dirtiest look when bf said I was helping him find his mom.
They knew, his broth3r and sister, were visiting her on Vermont where she was born. Remarried....when I told him of what my daughter said, he called me a list very loudly, he's 6'1 I am 5'. He was spitting angry at me. Did he ever hurt me, why, yes he did quite a few times. His brother was the only one to hear him they were all in other families not so good to them. He has all the listed nuggets.
okay edgelord.
My ex is a psychopath. I've said to friends that after 5 years of intensive daily research into his terrible behaviors and issues, I have a psychology degree from Google.
Well, the daily article reading & videos, reading blogs etc started about six months in. Maybe closer to a year. I came to the conclusion that he has NPD, Narcissistic Personality Disorder. As time went on, after more research, after learning more about him, I had to conclude that he was a sociopath. In retrospect, I think I was trying to minimize his mental issues, "yes he has NPD but thank God he's not a sociopath!"
When I had to admit to myself that he _is_ a sociopath, I thought to myself "well he is a sociopath, but thank God he's not a psychopath!"
You guessed it, Not only did he display an incredibly selfish and controlling nature, a complete and utter lack of empathy, zero affection, no support or validation, and frequent uncontrollable rages... not only did he do all those things, all pointing to a sociopath, but much of it was premeditated. Aw, crap.
I realized that he enjoys hurting people, and plans it ahead of time. So finally I had to conclude that he's a psychopath.
He was very badly sexually abused by his own parents. There is a pretty clear connection between childhood sexual abuse and NPD, sociopathy, and psychopathy. So that is something to bear in mind, if the person in your life endured child abuse. My ex did, just the most extreme and horrible you can imagine, from age 8-15.
I just got out of a relationship with a psychopath. She cheated and tried to lie her way out of it despite video evidence. Refused to take responsibility even after showing her the video.
Unusual, informative and funny.
You saying german words always gives me a good laugh😂
Koch /= Kock
I just ran across one of your videos for the first time. Today. Very talented personality. Will be sharing
Okay, I just laughed my ass about “get out girl”, literally instructing half the young women watching this.
I was thinking the same thing about “get out girl” -like telling half of all young ladies to get out of their relationships (but I was going to add that the OTHER half of women need to get out too, since this applies to the “normal” relationship they were in that inevitably always evolves into the bad one!!!
@@turtlejeepjen314 ❤️
Clearly ones who doesn't wave back at you intentionally are always psychopaths
Or they just don't want to wave back, you always have the option lol.
Oh my god, that's my president!
Obama?
@@aatt8477 do you think that Obama was president in 2020...?
checks all the boxes.
@@julestremblay677 The left informed us many times that Trump isn’t their president. So when somebody refers to “their president” as a psychopath, who should we assume they mean? Probably the person they think SHOULD be the president, right? Therefore, OP means that Hillary Rodham Blythe (that’s Bill’s real last name, BTW) is a psychopath.
I was wondering how far in the comments I would have to go before this came up...although, Trump doesn't seem to engage in any kind of logic.
A psychopath is basically an adult with a 6 year old's brain. Once you notice it it's so creepy.
There are ways to tell if someone is a "psychopath" - this usually falls under the rubric of a type of "personality disorder", or more specifically, an emotionally or socially abusive person. One of the most important risk factors (more important than genetics) is abusive or negligent parenting. Huge topic, but there are some great resources out there for identifying these people, my favorite being "The Verbally Abusive Relationship: How to Recognize it and How to Respond", by Patricia Evans. (The title of the book is too narrow a description of the breadth of the topics that are covered. It DEFINITELY addresses psychopaths.). Highly recommended.
My hubby is a sociopath. We work very hard to help him lead a normal life. Watching him learn empathy and compassion is wonderful. He’s the best dad to our daughter and his logic is there when my emotional self can’t rationalize things. I love him. They’re not all helpless or hurtful.
Actual sociopaths cannot learn empathy.
I've had those times where I declare in a fit of exasperation " I just don't care any more!". But I do care, or it wouldn't be so frustrating.
It must be very liberating to ACTUALLY not give a f^ck.
Thanks