How to Dock Start - Tips, Tricks & the A-Z Journey
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.ค. 2020
- The ultimate guide to learning how to dock start with Chris from Kite Republic. The gear, technique, and the tips and tricks that'll set you up perfectly to get out there and have the best start with you Dock Starts! As well as this see my full journey from first attempt to ticking off my #dockstartchallenge goals!
Join the fun and make sure you tag @kiterepublicaustralia on your progress pics/vids ;)
Always keen to hear your thoughts and comments below... if you'd like more info head to www.kiterepublic.com.au - กีฬา
thanks for posting your humble beginning.... it gives us hope
Great information thank you. One thing I want to mention: I guess it worked for me quite well to improve my pumping technique not on my wing foil but mostly at home watching TH-cam and trying to copy the movements of experts. Now I can make these silly movements far more easily than I tried at the water.
Now that's persistence! Thanks for sharing your knowledge as well as your follies mate!!
Haha, yep, 2 years ago before people were doing it and before there were tips and tricks like this or people to talk to to get the fast track. Was a good way to learn heaps of the ins and outs I would have probably skipped these days ;) Good luck, have fun out there! Always happy to chat if you get stuck on anything along the way ;)
Thank you... I am going to practice on pumping via wing foiling first!! 😊
Good call, the perfect way to get that pump fired up ;)
Great tuto, thank you 😊
Hope it helped @tarek... how are you going with your dockstarts?
@@KiteRepublicAustralia recently nailed the beach start 😎
@@tareklimem yesssss! That’s awesome. So much fun and so many more places you can do it hey 😉
Love it!! Great Edit!
Thanks Yaniv, I wish you the best of luck and look forward to hearing how it all goes :)
@@KiteRepublicAustralia Thanks! will share for sure!
Thanks, great video! I'm knee deep into flailing, so humbling. Good to see you get it dialed, when you switch to mongo, oh boy those falls look so sketchy. Unsolicited audio tip: dead cat for the mic, or even foam plus dead cat, cheap and usually eliminates wind noise.
Cheers clauisland. Agree on the audio. From memory it was a sync problem rather than wind but I totally agree it’s not ideal and at the time I didn’t realize the traction it would get or I may have re-shot 🤦 probably would have discarded the background music too looking back. Either way, always appreciate any tips and tricks for improving. Appreciate the feedback and good luck with your journey 👍
great vide - were a helmet just in case you head hits the dock
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Great vid ! I m on my 6th round still trying to crack the code :-D. Thanks for the helpfull tips !
Awesome stuff Mickael... Where are you based? Keep us updated and good luck! So addictive once once you crack that code ;)
@@KiteRepublicAustraliaI m in Fribourg, Switzerland 15th sesh yestersay, I feel that I m really really closed ! :D
@@mickaelrinaldo4238 Good luck mate. Once you start nailing a few pumps the progression and time up and going allows so much quick progression. Have a great time out there ;)
Loved the video, so entertaining and informative. I just started trying off a low sitting swim raft. Found my 82cm mast hard to keep wings close to surface of water and have a nice easy level jump onto board. Gonna try with my 72cm mast. I was also using a small dwarf craft that is heavy as heck from multiple repairs. I have a a 94cm axis tray. thought it might be too small but its so light and responsive I'm thinking i'd be better off with it. I weigh 70kg. Front wing i have is 2100cm. have a 70cm fuse that ive drilled holes in to be able to move stab to 60cm. I am guessing from the comments the 60cm length would work better for learning. Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mike.
Hi Mike, good stuff getting stuck into it mate. I'd suggest the small board will be perfect for the dockstarts, just horrible to paddle back to the dock, haha. Agree if you need to climb up more than 30cm or so to the board to keep wings high in the water then a shorter mast will definitely help, would definitely go the 72 if you have it. Swim rafts can be difficult as often they move a little and take that final 'drive' power from your final step out to the board, but if it's stable enough that's fine. 2100cm2 is a great size to start. Regarding the fuselage... if your tail wing is large enough then the short fuselage is great for being able to get speed up. If your tail is too small then a larger fuselage will give a bit more to push off, at first I found this hard however and preferred shorter fuse, larger tail. As you progress and can get onto the board and up to speed/height ok I think you'll likely move to smaller tail and slightly longer fuse just for that extra glide and reduced drag. For now though I'd go large'ish tail, mid-short fuse, get your 'up to speed' glides going and then play around with everything to dial it in. Best of luck mate, yell out if I can help at all ;)
@@KiteRepublicAustralia Thanks for the response and all the great information. Going to set my foil up with a my bigger stab at around 65cm fuse length. Really looking forward to trying it again tomorow. Really appreciate you taking the time to give such a deteailed response. Cheers, Mike.
thanks for the video, the best I've seen so far
what is more important for the wing. the projcted area (greater then 2000cm²) or the wingspan (as wide as possible? is 84cm enough)?
A high aspect wing (ie. larger wingspan vs. area) is awesome for efficient pumping when already at speed and increasing glide, unfortunately there is a lot less room for error on the takeoff and getting up to speed as they're more prone to stalling at lower speeds (ie. dockstarts) when lifting. I would suggest you'll want to go this way eventually however a regular aspect wing with a large area will be the easiest to get your consistency up and learn. Size will depend on your weight, however I would aim for the largest regular wing you can to get it nailed. After this you'll probably swing between this for consistency and harder (ie. no runup areas) takeoffs etc, where a larger high aspect wing will be good to progress to for efficiency and speed. Hope this helps... Which 84cm wing? and what do you weigh? if you'd like more info on that ;)
@@KiteRepublicAustralia I weigh 93 kg more or less. i'm from germany and actually a wakeboarder. I'm getting too cold for all my air tricks. I've never had the opportunity to test foiling. last week i was on a wakeboard lift for it and the test foil was i think a slingshot hover glide fsup. I got the first ride pretty quickly. next time I want to be drawn to the lift and then practice pumping. later if I know how to pumping I will try dockstarts. but I don't think the board and wing are the right choice for me for pumping. at the moment I'm thinking of this foil setup, board in 4.5 or 5.0 and the wing in xl.
www.gong-galaxy.com/en/product/pack-surfoil-matata-foil-eps/
after what you write me, even the xxl wing would be better for me. I am also thinking later of wing foiling, I wanna do both. then you just have to put another board on the xl wing. the xxl wing could be too big for wing foiling but maybe I´m wrong.
@@sasquuatch1976 Just keep in mind if you're normally behind a boat you obviously don't need as much size as dockstarting where you've got very little speed to start. For pumping, dockstarts, or behind a boat then smaller board is perfect, just won't work as well if you're paddling into waves obviously. To be honest nobody over here has Gong foils so I've not ridden (or seen) one in the flesh. Just had a look at their site and to learn dockstarts the XXL will definitely be the easiest, however I'd imagine you'd get away with the XL at 1844cm2 once you know what you're up to as well. Behind the boat the smaller would be heaps as you'll start pumping with a bit of speed already and you could potentially go smaller for this quite easily as well, it's just it'll be hard for dock starts. Good luck!
Nice video and nice information, sooner i will surf in the ocean insha Allah.
Best of luck
I am pretty sure that the fuselage should be as long as possible for pumping / dockstart : this improves stability when landing on the board, and the pumping efficiently is better.
Hi Perso, absolutely agree if you're up to speed already or using a smaller wing/stab combo. Once you're up to speed for sure the longer fuse will make life easier to keep it with less effort. With these larger wings, and especially when using these bigger stabilizers I find it a huge amount of effort to build the speed required for dockstarts with that combo and prefer the slightly shorter one, which to be honest is seen as a longer fuse for any of the surf foil specific brands. Hope this makes sense and as a general principal with more mid sized foils or purely for that initial landing your reasoning is bang on ;)
How's the dockstarting going at StKilda these days? Getting popular? I've been dockstarting for a year down Geelong way and am yet to see anyone else doing it. So much fun.
Hey Jason, yeah there's a good little crew up this way now. Everyone has other foil endeavours around it but on a no wind day there's a good few out there jumping off docks/rocks/boats or whatever is around to play on ;) Enjoy
How many times did it take before you had it dialled?
I haven’t counted but every single one is at the end of that video 🤷 would say if I was proning and pumping confidently way back then it would have cut that time/attempts by at least half.