Watch Motomantv, he’s also legit . Unlike most popular TH-cam review channels are only reading off manufacturers stat sheets because these people were not car people before TH-cam algorithm
Just a comment about the "Is it worth it?" game. Because both the Toyota and its competitor was discussed in each segment, it became unclear whether Alex was saying the Toyota or the competitor was worth it. Maybe always link the name of the model referred to, as in "The Toyota is worth it". Excellent and thorough review as always. Glad to see Brian is still alive.
I think they really dropped the ball on the 3rd row. As a father of twin boys, I really don't care about the 3rd row for seating (not yet at least), I need to storage space to haul gear for the boys if I go anywhere. Trying to put a side by side stroller vertical in this thing and then pack it full of groceries seems unlikely because of the height restrictions.
Sometimes I feel like Toyota screws particular things up on purpose so that they won't be seen as being too perfect. 😄 I agree though. It's frustrating to see how many good automakers fail with the third row.
@@payrocoin lol perhaps. I think Toyota gets themselves into trouble with these universal platforms they create. The tgnf platform or whatever they call it that is shared with the tundra and lexus. It's good from a manufacturing perspective because it standardizes many components, but from a practical use perspective, it falls short. This vehicle also doesn't need to be a standard hybrid either. Losing that battery would fix the 3rd row issues. That said, it is a sharp looking ride.
@Michael Yes there's no reason for this to be hybrid only. That's just a stupid decision that increases price and decreases interior room without even improving fuel economy by much if at all.
Its quite unfortunate, i feel like there isn't a large 3 row vehicle with modern technology that's even half as reliable as a toyota. 3rd row space and trunk space with the 3rd row up makes it a deal breaker for me. The grand highlander somehow does better than this.
Finally a review that points out my biggest complaint on the new Sequoia which is the horrible 3rd row sitting and cargo load compromise. I was so excited for this update, loving the hybrid, loving the look, then let down with the 3rd row.
Grand Highlander HybridMax has entered the chat. Now Toyota can service regular consumer with a 3row hybrid crossover with minivan level interior space. Sequoia can service HD customer who has towing, off-road, and longterm durability needs for HD use case...
As someone who has owned a Sequoia for 13.5 years, one that has one of the greatest 3rd row seats of all time... How often do you think any of my family / extended family that is over 6' tall have ever been in the 3rd row? Exactly zero times in 13.5 years. We have 1/2 of our family is over 6', the other 1/2 is about 5'6"... Never has any of the 6' tall people in our family sat in the 3rd row... The fact is... When you have adults and kids... kids go in the back... when you have tall adults and short adults... short adults go in the back... So you would need six or more 6 foot tall people to have this negatively effect you for any reasonable length of time. The cargo space loss from the old to new generation is more of a concern than a 3rd row seat that is only used by kids or short adults... neither of whom will be negatively affected by the smaller 3rd row
@@MrMom950 Thanks for your perspective. For me we use our SUV for our kids and for carpooling family so both the 3rd row and the cargo are a must. The Tahoe, Wagoneer, and expedition families all have integrated IRS instead of a Solid axle years ago which makes these problems obsolete. When you have kids with sports you will have a lot of stuff to load in the back, gear, stroller, water which having a nice normal load floor is a no brainer so I have no idea why Sequoia feels it’s not necessary. I love Toyota reliability and that’s why I’m still waiting for them to provide a direct competitor to the Tahoe that can beat them at every comparison.
I love this generation of Sequoia! It finally has a muscular truck look I like (box shape). I can't wait to test drive one. I also appreciate that the roof liner and the A-pillar (the rest of them too B-D) covers are dark as I have found that it helps them "disappear" in low light driving conditions. I work a late swing shift so night driving comfort is something I focus a lot on. Also the adjustable brightness of the instrument and info center(s) to help with the night driving is something I look at too. The third row looks great to me, growing up in a large family we had lots of cars with third rows and I can say from the looks of this it's still better then my Dads 1986 Crown Vic wagon's third row! I would agree with you on the air ride system. Toyota makes great trucks. This is the family truck I've been looking for! The real leather option is nice as my XLE Camry has it and with three kids- it's durable and still looks good with proper care (easy). The only wish I have is that TOYOTA would do a limited run of these with the TRD V8 and exhaust system! How cool would that be? As always, Great review Alex!
I own the Wagoneer Series III and it was about 84k out the door, so you can easily get a series I or II for less than the capstone trim. The biggest difference is the 3rd row. My two boys are 6 foot and have plenty of leg and head room back there when we are filled to the brim on road trips.
Your Wagoneer is a Stellantis product though. Which means garbage reliability, durability and build quality compared to Toyota. JEEP scores yearly at the bottom.
@@electrikoptik There was a time a would have agreed with you, and I’ve mostly owned Hondas and Toyotas my entire life…but, my current 2017 Honda CRV with only 40k on it needed blew a header (6k in repairs), and my last Toyota (RAV 4 Prime) had an ancient UI and a bunch of electrical issues…we had 3 Honda Odysseys that gave us various issues over the life we owned them, so rolled the dice on the new Chrysler Pacifica and it was the best minivan we ever owned…no issues at all. And so far, other than 2 flat tires, no issues with my Wagoneer. Not knocking the Toyota; it looks like a great car, and if was out when I was car searching, I may have gone that way, but the 3rd row is tiny compared to the Wagoneer. The original question I was answering was about pricing, not reliability, etc….
I was very happy to see that. Usually reviewers barely even try climbing back there. Honestly, most are intended for kids, so squeezing men back there isn't realistic. At least Brian is closer in size to a teen, so a better tester for a family vehicle.
The packaging issues raised by the solid rear axle is kinda nuts. So many elements of the interior are compromised. And if you are someone that wants a full size SUV and only occasionally use the 3rd row, I think it's a no-go. Otherwise it looks great inside and out
Let's hope the Grand Highlander will be good. I wonder what engine it will have. Too bad Toyota doesn't make an SUV with a good 3rd row that tows a lot. GM or Ford are your options there.
Alex, We have all been waiting to learn how that solid rear axle 9:12 would compare to the IRS in the previous Sequoia and the full--size competitors. At a minimum, buyers should consider the smallest wheels possible to gain some SIDEWALL and smooth out the ride.
For some reason Toyota doesn't allow you to choose between a set of wheels for their vehicles. Is this an American thing? In Europe every car maker has like at least 5 wheel designs to select on every trim. Edit: Toyota in Europe also has a huge choice of wheels in all different sizes. You can even order winter tires straight from the factory.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Most Americans don't care that much about wheels. There is often a size upgrade optional on lower trim levels, but only rarely a variety of designs (unless you're buying a European vehicle).
This was the best review I've seen so far for this car. I love how you included car seat information as well. Just every scenario was covered! Thanks for that!
I want 3 across the second row and Awd. I really like minivans own one, a Honda. But to get a high trim level you cant get the configuration I want, so i may have to buy a fullsize SUV. I would love everything odyssey has with AWD (sick of putting chains on).
If you need a spacious third row for a 6'2+ person you really shouldn't be looking at any SUV. Get a minivan, except you're looking for a tall person car that can tow more than 5000 lbs, which almost nobody really needs.
Nah, The Expedition & Tahoe can fit a 6'2" person easily in the 3rd row while still having good cargo room and without having to move the 2nd row up. If that was also the case, than we can argue the Highlander is a better option since it actually has more space in the cargo area with the 3rd row up probably will have better fuel economy than the Sequoia too, so not sure who this appeals to really.
What baffles me is that they wanted to make this "the American Land Cruiser" but then put that stupid hybrid system in it, emphasized this is a family SUV with a 3rd row and then put the ANCIENT transfer case with only 2H, 4H and 4L in it. The Land Cruiser has full-time 4WD with lockable torsen center diff, which is better than what the Americans are doing with their clutch systems, just like the last Sequoia, as you said. This is the laziest SUV conversion from the Tundra that you could make. It's a shame what stupid decision Toyota makes lately.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Well, vast majority of Sequoia buyers have no clue what torsen is, care more about cupholder count and iPhone connectivity, MPG figures and listens to salesperson who says sold rear axle is more reliable. They did put LC on sale for long time and they sold 50 sequoias to every LC sold. Simply selling what the customer asks for. That's what they are doing.
Love this new format with both of you on the same vehicle. You should do this more often! Too bad about the 3rd row. I guess we will go with the Telluride.
Toyota had the chance to make that a good 3rd row and missed by that much. I myself wouldn't be in the 3rd row, but it does take away a bit of utility. I also think that should have been an independent rear axle.
The rear storage is a bit of a mess Toyota. It may be livable if the 3rd seats were removeable for most everyday use. I'm still awaiting the final axle, towing and payload figures and for Alex to tow with it!
Wondering if Toyota will come out with a "extended length" version of this...that'd solve the head rest issues in the third row seat and also be in a league with the Suburban, Escalade ESV and Yukon XL
Head space issue also exists in the second row for tall peoiple when you have the panoramic roof. You can get around be leaning back the seat but that would crush 3rd row passengers
They need to fire BMW's too and until you guys learn how to only buy it in black and not those stupidly bright colors, I will not let you buy any brand new one.
I liked the rear window on the previous model. I have dogs so it enabled owners to lower the window. It was the only SUV on the market that allowed for that. I also pull a 2-horse trailer. Which this SUV is great for.
The cargo situation in the rear is a little strange. I don't want customization of the load floor panel in a large expensive suv. I want a large flat space. Period.
This has been in the news and marketplace long enough for Toyota to publish fuel economy. Beginning to wonder if it's bad enough that they're afraid to release.
Definitely this. Toyota is very malicious. They lifted the embargo for reviews but didn't reveal the fuel economy. Now there are tons of reviews out there without fuel economy. Toyota knows it's absolutely terrible so they hide it.
@TheMrDudiness OMG you're right. 😂😂😂 The Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid WITH A 6.0L V8 ENGINE gets 21 city and 22 highway as 2WD and 20/20 as 4WD. Wow good job Toyota. 👏👏👏
Great video as always. I really appreciate how to breakdown the quality of the cabin. If the manufacturer cheaps out on the materials, it makes me think where else did they cut corners. Especially at this price point. I’ve noticed with Toyota over the years they are becoming more “American”. Putting cheaper plastics in their cabins.
3rd row seats should be optional. I would definitely have bought one, but I need the cargo space for dogs and hunting stuff - not a 3rd row seat taking up all that room.
Looks great on the outside, unfortunately Toyota’s interior packaging is atrocious, no thanks to that solid axle. Big families will be much happier in a Sienna.
Does Toyota have an explanation for the front airdam, and why it has those airflow cutouts in it? Lots of other airdams out there which are essentially solid, including the Tundra (thought that does have some notches). Maybe it’s for brake cooling or are there additional radiators low down in that region?
Me have a question this does use a solid axle ... It has a rough ride ... Can anyone tell me what this does better compared to independent suspension? This can be more rugged -how about the wheel travel ? Iam confused ... Lastly engine don't send power to front wheels?
As per everyone’s comment, I don’t really see the 3rd as that much of a big deal, it’s the cargo area I’m really not a fan of, it’s a touch too small, but where the sequoia shines is in value, for the amount of power you get and towing capabilities, it’s a very good value compared to the rest Tahoe/ Yukon and Expedition: Best engine: Costs $58k in the Sequoia. $66k in the Tahoe. $70k+ in the Expedition Fuel Economy: 20-21 MPG in Sequoia. 16 in Tahoe/ Yukon. 18-19 in Expedition. Towing: 9500 lbs in Sequoia. 8300 in Tahoe/Yukon. 9300 in Expedition (copy and pasted that info from another comment)
Tell me if I’m wrong but if I get a limited 4x4 with the trd off-road package, panoramic sunroof, tow technology package, and JBL premium audio… wouldn’t I be very close or over the price of a trd pro? The trd pro has all this standard with the exception of the panoramic. All this to get a 2nd row bench seat... Toyota I may just wait till you make a 2nd row bench in the PRO to buy.
The sliding third row and the cargo shelf is pretty interesting, but it feels like they were included to make up for the core problems with packaging the mechanicals compromising the cabin space...
Wow, this third row doesn't look much better than the Highlander, which is small for its class. For people with large families the space back there may be adequate for their smaller kids, but they'd have to trade it in when their kids hit their teens. That means it's only good for maybe five years, which for a Toyota is disappointing. People want to buy and keep them. If they only have two or three kids and can carry them in the second row this would be fine, with the third row reserved for infrequently carrying a couple of friends, and it mostly kept folded for cargo space. Would I buy it in that situation? Maybe, though a two-row crossover would only lose that part-time extra seat. Many of them have just as much cargo space. Then there is the Highlander, which would be just as capable for many - assuming they don't tow much. They still get an occasional third row that has less legroom, but is OK for short trips. And they save a lot of money. The hybrid sounds appealing, but only if the gas mileage is high. The TT-V6 may not be Toyota's most reliable engine, but it should be competitive enough. The Highlander's hybrid is more proven and likely much more efficient. Basically, the Sequoia's problem is that it doesn't offer that much more than the cheaper, very reliable Highlander hybrid. It's wider, so three kids across the second row is realistic, and it tows more. It seens awkwardly stuck between the Highlander and full-size SUVs that have much roomier third row seats. Then there are minivans, the even better solution for family hauling.
Alex, on a upcoming show will you talk about the danger of Laminated car side windows? A lot of us carry punch out tools to break the side windows in case of a crash in to a pond, lake etc but the punch out tool will not work on laminated side windows which most new cars now have.
Wait really car makers are switching to laminated glass on the side? I thought only the windshield had that and the sides and rear were easy to shatter tempered glass ones.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 The acoustic laminated side glass many are using on higher-end vehicles is a sandwich of plastic with thin layers of glass. It doesn't fragment like safety glass. I don't know if this is actually a safety issue, but I can see that it might be.
I don't go off road but I want a safe SUV in the snow and the rain for my family. Do I need this 4wheel drive system on this 2023 Sequoia or TRD Sport 2wheel will be good enough? Would you please cover the drive modes for those who like the reliability and the look of the Sequoia but they don't go off road but want safe SUV for different conditions?
Seat height is adjustable, and the total headroom looks quite generous up there. Full-size pickups (this is based on the Tundra) all seem to have wide front seats. You'd need to try it out, but I suspect it's quite generously sized. You might look up Alex's Tundra review for more detail.
Why not compare it against the Grand Cherokee rather than the wagoneer? The Cherokee is about the same price range and to me is something thats much more likely to be cross shopped as they are both full sized SUVs that have some off road chops yet still try to have that more...luxurious interior. And personally with all the negatives of the Sequioa right now...id definitely go Grand Cherokee. That being said...ty Alex for actually pointing out the negatives that nobody else seems to be doing. Great job. Edit Notice how most reviews of the Sequioa that only show the positives have comments raving about how great it is. Now that Alex actually showed the downsides of the Sequioa all you see in the comments are disappointed people. Funny how when you actually speak truthfully to people how the sentiment changes. Hopefully when full reviews come out these so called reviewers will finally get off Toyotas junk and give an honest review.
The exterior design is one of if not one of the best designs I've seen from Toyota. The new Sequoia is just stunning. I truly hope the next generation Rav4 and Highlander follow a similar design language.
It's absolutely mind boggling how much Toyota screwed this up. Insane. Customers buy this type of vehicle for interior space. The new Tundra is completely useless in that regard. For any buyer who wants the interior space of something like a Tahoe the Tundra is not an option, not even close. Who is supposed to buy this? How can a brand like Toyota fail this hard? What were they thinking? Sad to see Toyota go downhill.
See my original comment. You just helped it by a lot Plus I think you were one of the many people who made fun of me for saying the sequoia and tundra are dead on arrival 😉
@@OcaOca You are literally contradicting yourself. As you write yourself people buy SUV for status, they do NOT buy vans! NO ONE who wants a SUV for status will buy a Toyota Sienna instead of this. They are just going to buy a different SUV with more space instead.
I just sat in one of these at an auto show and I couldn't believe how bad the third row was with the low flat seats and very limited space for feet below the 2nd seats.
I just really don't understand this thing and haven't since they unveiled this generation. Not only did they do the complete opposite of every competitor going from IRS to a solid rear axle, and it seems like they created the same uneven cargo floor and seats that people complained about for years in the Tahoe/Suburban before the IRS. I feel like in most daily usage for a family this is a huge downgrade from the old Sequoia.
Yes, you are correct in every aspect. Toyota is just money hungry and won't pay for the development of a good SUV like that. They made a single platform for every body-on-frame vehicle and now hope people are stupid enough to ignore that when GM makes fantastic large SUVs. Also, some people might come with the argument "but muh Toyota reliability," but this is a totally new complex engine with a hybrid system to boot. Here are the facts: 16.3% of all Toyota Land Cruisers hit 200k miles, 11.2% of all Toyota Sequoias hit 200k miles, and 5.1% of all Chevrolet Suburbans hit 200k miles which is the third longest lasting vehicle in America. Now, you might say Toyota absolutely destroys these, but here's the thing: Those Toyotas are absolutely ANCIENT. That's the reason Toyotas are so reliable; they are behind on tech; they are not magic. This new Sequoia won't last as long as the old Sequoia, meaning the GM SUVs will catch up. Now, the Sequoia is even less practical than last time, so hopefully, GM SUVs pull ahead even further with sales.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 The old one sold poorly, so developing a separate suspension for it would have added a lot to the price of this new one. I do think they should have worked harder at flattening out the floor as much as possible when they developed the platform. Having your knees under your chin is seriously uncomfortable for any but very short rides, so raising the roof a bit would have also been helpful. Those seat cushions are thick, and likely comfortable, but folded they take up a lot of space. Working on them would also help.
I'm so disappointed in the lack of IRS and the huge compromises that came with the move back to a solid rear axle. I know that the Sequoia is doing double duty for Toyota now since the Land Cruiser isn't sold here but come on. The solid rear axle impacts the interior so much that even the second row sees packaging issues. I suppose most of these (and this is also true for the rest of the segment) will only occasionally have more than 2 people in them, so it might not be an issue for the typical buyer.
Alex - I have been mulling choosing between the new Sequoia vs. the Tahoe RST or Z71 with the 3.0L diesel or 6.2L gas engine respectively. Forgetting the mpg issue, what would be your choice in a similarly equipped Sequoia (say limited or Platinum) be vs. Tahoe in these trims and engine choices?
I'm coming out of a late model Sequoia, that I liked, I purchased the Tahoe LT Limited. I got the 5.3L V8. I hate the sound of a diesel engine and I would avoid a turbo charged engine at all costs. The negative with General Motors versus Toyota is that General Motors has the universally loathed Engine stop-start. Fortunately, there's an override button now. Permanent solutions are also readily available. General Motors also has daytime running lights that does not improve safety, but again, you can override that with a switch on the dash.
@@krelllab6366 The Negative with GM is that its absolute trash compared to Toyota... Historical reliability from GM is abysmal and on top of that, resale value is always much lower than Toyota...
7:30 Is the navigation going to be an additional option? If so that means not only do you have to pay for that feature, but also a subscription fee later on just to use maps. Considering Toyota's recent decisions to pay wall basic tech features like remote start, his is a bad look for the future
Just do like most people and use whatever mapping software you have on your phone. With Google Maps you can download in advance maps for whatever region you want. Mapping software in the vehicle infotainment system is an unneeded luxury now. All I can figure is they skimped on storage because of the global chip shortage. If people are going to connect their phones anyhow, why duplicate the software?
Alex, how does this Toyotas interior volume compare to your Durango? Also how would you compare interior fit and finish from your Durango SRT to this? I have a 70k budget, my short list is Series 1 Wagoneer, Tahoe RST, Durango SRT and this Sequoia
its came to my knowledge that Toyota killed ATRACK feature which was standard with all 4WD, mostly if you have SR5 with 4WD , ATRACK was enough to take you from many difficult situations and now they are offering MTS as add on , ATRACK used to be free standard add on .
Good lord thats a tiny trunk, not a fan of the divider thingy. Also way too much for not a lot of space on the inside. I could get a fully loaded QX60 for less. Could also get a lincoln aviator for less. This is too small on the inside to really compare to other full size SUV's.
God they could’ve just used the IRS. That’s really the main issue here when it comes to space. Even if the rear seats weren’t that huge, they could’ve at least created a flat load floor.
It's mind boggling to me how many reviews focus solely on the room of the 3rd row... I get that its not as roomy for 6'+ people... especially when compared to the older models. But unless you are regularly hauling around six or more adults that are ALL over 6 foot tall... this isn't even a thing that anyone would even worry about. First off... when you have adults and kids, Adults always go up front or in 2nd row... then if you have all adults and some of them are tall... those tall people go in the first or 2nd row and the short adults go to the rear... Even with my 2011 Sequoia that I have owned for 13.5 years... which has one of the most comfortable and roomiest 3rd rows ever made... this is still the case... Tall people rarely are the ones that go to the back seat.. And its NOT because of the leg room... or even the head room when sitting down... its how far they have to bend over to get back there as they walk / crawl back there... My extended family is made up of 6'+ people and 5'5 people... and this has been the case whenever anyone is getting in any car... short people go to the back... its just how things work... So making such a mountain out of a molehill is just tiresome... The more concerning issue that RARELY gets talked about is the huge loss in overall cargo capacity compared to the old Sequoia models... You drop from 120.1 to 86.9... yet its almost NEVER mentioned... and instead every reviewer harps on the fact the 3rd row that zero 6'+ tall people will ever sit in, is slightly not as comfortable as a horribly low quality manufacturer like GMC or Ford... that loss in cargo space is a HUGE hit to someone who enjoys the older sequoia for its ability to haul a LOT of things around with all the seats down... and is a MUCH greater concern than the 3rd row knee raise numbers...
@@naveenthemachine naveenthemachine you just helped my comment that only proves you are a troll and the sequoia is truely excellent as well.the best way to know if a product is good ?. its simple if you say its a failure or dead on arrival then that means its a success.🍾🥂👍
I'm generally a Toyota guy, but this feels like a big miss. Overall, this vehicle is getting pummeled in the auto press due to ponderous handling, so-so materials quality and terrible packaging. Not a good week for such reveals - first the disappointing HR-V, now this.
@naveenthemachine Toyota is very malicious. They lifted the embargo for reviews but didn't reveal the fuel economy. Now there are tons of reviews out there without fuel economy. Toyota knows it's absolutely terrible so they hide it.
@@xBeeGee - read a review, and the comments. lower mpg than the prior generation, no magic seat, barely improved power, much higher price, no hybrid, etc.
Re closing comments: I’d love to be able to put my kids in the back and they have toys and books in the foot well back there. They don’t need the headroom.
Beautiful car with so many great features - completely ruined by the trunk. Do they think everyone has five kids? Why not actually clear all that out and offer a strong low access load space like the old LC. we’ve lost the Land Cruiser and the other alternative is gone now too.
The problem is the Toyota execs in Japan wanted to kill it of. The tundra team convinced them to keep it but had to promise the keep costs down. They didn’t have the development budget for IRS and a good third row.
@@slscamg Sad. And Toyota plans to keep this until when? 2040?! 😅 At least the previous gen Sequoia was competitive (maybe even the top of its class) when it was launched in 2008 😄
This really seems like some poor decision making from Toyota product management. Certainly seems to me that if they offered this without the hybrid which offers almost zero fuel economy increase, they’d have more accommodating rear seat room, increased payload and a lower price. How is the Tundra offered in that guise and not the SUV version where people SURELY will care less about the extra torque the electric motor provides than the thousands of dollars it costs and space it takes up? This really feels like a product built for a very small niche customer - parents with 2 kids who almost never need a 3rd row, but also don’t mind having hugely compromised storage capacity/configuration (no flat load floor), but who DO want big towing capability (Solid axle) and therefore can’t live with a highlander…oof. What the hell happened here?
@@alwaysiyi272 Toyota markets it as ‘max’ in the Tundra, not really citing better mpg but more power. I assume it’s the same here too. My point was I doubt many Sequoia buyers care about the extra power, they’d rather the more usable storage, or lower cost by removing it.
Sad that they only offer the 22gal fuel tank for it. They could have squeezed the 32gal tank in. I guess they are forcing the small ranges like EVs on us.
My niece wants to buy an 8 passenger SUV, possibly the Sequoia; but she has three little boys: 9, 5, and 3 years old. they drive to the mountains of New Hampshire and the Jersey beach and she will need video monitors on the back of the seats so the boys can watch movies. Do you think Toyota will offer this?? She wants the 2023 Sequoia.
I don’t know what’s better his review here, or him doing a review for Redline. I laughed so hard at his bloopers! Keep up the good work Alex.
Watch Motomantv, he’s also legit . Unlike most popular TH-cam review channels are only reading off manufacturers stat sheets because these people were not car people before TH-cam algorithm
Just a comment about the "Is it worth it?" game. Because both the Toyota and its competitor was discussed in each segment, it became unclear whether Alex was saying the Toyota or the competitor was worth it. Maybe always link the name of the model referred to, as in "The Toyota is worth it". Excellent and thorough review as always. Glad to see Brian is still alive.
I think they really dropped the ball on the 3rd row. As a father of twin boys, I really don't care about the 3rd row for seating (not yet at least), I need to storage space to haul gear for the boys if I go anywhere. Trying to put a side by side stroller vertical in this thing and then pack it full of groceries seems unlikely because of the height restrictions.
Sometimes I feel like Toyota screws particular things up on purpose so that they won't be seen as being too perfect. 😄 I agree though. It's frustrating to see how many good automakers fail with the third row.
@@payrocoin lol perhaps. I think Toyota gets themselves into trouble with these universal platforms they create. The tgnf platform or whatever they call it that is shared with the tundra and lexus. It's good from a manufacturing perspective because it standardizes many components, but from a practical use perspective, it falls short. This vehicle also doesn't need to be a standard hybrid either. Losing that battery would fix the 3rd row issues. That said, it is a sharp looking ride.
@Michael Yes there's no reason for this to be hybrid only. That's just a stupid decision that increases price and decreases interior room without even improving fuel economy by much if at all.
Bite the bullet get a minivan with younger kids they're so much more practical
Its quite unfortunate, i feel like there isn't a large 3 row vehicle with modern technology that's even half as reliable as a toyota. 3rd row space and trunk space with the 3rd row up makes it a deal breaker for me. The grand highlander somehow does better than this.
Finally a review that points out my biggest complaint on the new Sequoia which is the horrible 3rd row sitting and cargo load compromise. I was so excited for this update, loving the hybrid, loving the look, then let down with the 3rd row.
Grand Highlander HybridMax has entered the chat. Now Toyota can service regular consumer with a 3row hybrid crossover with minivan level interior space. Sequoia can service HD customer who has towing, off-road, and longterm durability needs for HD use case...
@@allanedwards2347the GH drives like a giant floaty boat though. We didn't like it all
As someone who has owned a Sequoia for 13.5 years, one that has one of the greatest 3rd row seats of all time... How often do you think any of my family / extended family that is over 6' tall have ever been in the 3rd row? Exactly zero times in 13.5 years. We have 1/2 of our family is over 6', the other 1/2 is about 5'6"... Never has any of the 6' tall people in our family sat in the 3rd row...
The fact is... When you have adults and kids... kids go in the back... when you have tall adults and short adults... short adults go in the back... So you would need six or more 6 foot tall people to have this negatively effect you for any reasonable length of time.
The cargo space loss from the old to new generation is more of a concern than a 3rd row seat that is only used by kids or short adults... neither of whom will be negatively affected by the smaller 3rd row
@@MrMom950 Thanks for your perspective. For me we use our SUV for our kids and for carpooling family so both the 3rd row and the cargo are a must. The Tahoe, Wagoneer, and expedition families all have integrated IRS instead of a Solid axle years ago which makes these problems obsolete. When you have kids with sports you will have a lot of stuff to load in the back, gear, stroller, water which having a nice normal load floor is a no brainer so I have no idea why Sequoia feels it’s not necessary. I love Toyota reliability and that’s why I’m still waiting for them to provide a direct competitor to the Tahoe that can beat them at every comparison.
I thought it looked good but then the rest just went downhill from there. No go for me!!
Another excellent review and I love the team work!!!
I love this generation of Sequoia! It finally has a muscular truck look I like (box shape). I can't wait to test drive one. I also appreciate that the roof liner and the A-pillar (the rest of them too B-D) covers are dark as I have found that it helps them "disappear" in low light driving conditions. I work a late swing shift so night driving comfort is something I focus a lot on. Also the adjustable brightness of the instrument and info center(s) to help with the night driving is something I look at too. The third row looks great to me, growing up in a large family we had lots of cars with third rows and I can say from the looks of this it's still better then my Dads 1986 Crown Vic wagon's third row! I would agree with you on the air ride system. Toyota makes great trucks. This is the family truck I've been looking for! The real leather option is nice as my XLE Camry has it and with three kids- it's durable and still looks good with proper care (easy). The only wish I have is that TOYOTA would do a limited run of these with the TRD V8 and exhaust system! How cool would that be? As always, Great review Alex!
Keep up the good work! Don’t be like the other channels that say all the new cars are wonderful to make money from the car companies….
Alex is defs part of the starting line up when it comes to all the car reviewers! 🏎
One of the very greatest!
I own the Wagoneer Series III and it was about 84k out the door, so you can easily get a series I or II for less than the capstone trim. The biggest difference is the 3rd row. My two boys are 6 foot and have plenty of leg and head room back there when we are filled to the brim on road trips.
Your Wagoneer is a Stellantis product though. Which means garbage reliability, durability and build quality compared to Toyota. JEEP scores yearly at the bottom.
@@electrikoptik There was a time a would have agreed with you, and I’ve mostly owned Hondas and Toyotas my entire life…but, my current 2017 Honda CRV with only 40k on it needed blew a header (6k in repairs), and my last Toyota (RAV 4 Prime) had an ancient UI and a bunch of electrical issues…we had 3 Honda Odysseys that gave us various issues over the life we owned them, so rolled the dice on the new Chrysler Pacifica and it was the best minivan we ever owned…no issues at all. And so far, other than 2 flat tires, no issues with my Wagoneer. Not knocking the Toyota; it looks like a great car, and if was out when I was car searching, I may have gone that way, but the 3rd row is tiny compared to the Wagoneer. The original question I was answering was about pricing, not reliability, etc….
Someone is finally doing ride impressions on the third row!
I was very happy to see that. Usually reviewers barely even try climbing back there. Honestly, most are intended for kids, so squeezing men back there isn't realistic. At least Brian is closer in size to a teen, so a better tester for a family vehicle.
@@markmiller3279 As an Asian its not a problem with the 3rd row. The tallest of my famiily is only 5'7".
The packaging issues raised by the solid rear axle is kinda nuts. So many elements of the interior are compromised. And if you are someone that wants a full size SUV and only occasionally use the 3rd row, I think it's a no-go. Otherwise it looks great inside and out
Let's hope the Grand Highlander will be good. I wonder what engine it will have. Too bad Toyota doesn't make an SUV with a good 3rd row that tows a lot. GM or Ford are your options there.
Alex, We have all been waiting to learn how that solid rear axle 9:12 would compare to the IRS in the previous Sequoia and the full--size competitors. At a minimum, buyers should consider the smallest wheels possible to gain some SIDEWALL and smooth out the ride.
For some reason Toyota doesn't allow you to choose between a set of wheels for their vehicles. Is this an American thing? In Europe every car maker has like at least 5 wheel designs to select on every trim.
Edit: Toyota in Europe also has a huge choice of wheels in all different sizes. You can even order winter tires straight from the factory.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Most Americans don't care that much about wheels. There is often a size upgrade optional on lower trim levels, but only rarely a variety of designs (unless you're buying a European vehicle).
@@markmiller3279 That's really weird. Why would that be? 🤔
This was the best review I've seen so far for this car. I love how you included car seat information as well. Just every scenario was covered! Thanks for that!
Unless you have towing needs, save yourself tens of thousands and get a minivan. Swagger wagon y’all. 😉
Lol Yh
Agreed. Mid sized SUV size, full size SUV interior space. If you're not going to tow or go off road with your car, get a minivan.
No one wants to be seen driving a minivan though
@@janoycresnova9156 exactly that’s so embarrassing
I want 3 across the second row and Awd. I really like minivans own one, a Honda. But to get a high trim level you cant get the configuration I want, so i may have to buy a fullsize SUV. I would love everything odyssey has with AWD (sick of putting chains on).
If you need a spacious third row for a 6'2+ person you really shouldn't be looking at any SUV. Get a minivan, except you're looking for a tall person car that can tow more than 5000 lbs, which almost nobody really needs.
Nah, The Expedition & Tahoe can fit a 6'2" person easily in the 3rd row while still having good cargo room and without having to move the 2nd row up. If that was also the case, than we can argue the Highlander is a better option since it actually has more space in the cargo area with the 3rd row up probably will have better fuel economy than the Sequoia too, so not sure who this appeals to really.
Except that plenty of them have as much or more than a minivan - plus towing ability, 4wd, and grown clearance. comment fail.
You get a minivan the rest of us will drive something nice
@Isaiah Garcia The Highlander Hybrid gets 36 MPG, the Sequoia will get like 20.
i think they really went backwards with the solid rear axle and part time 4wd
That's just money hungry Toyota. 😂 They are so profitable for a reason.
What baffles me is that they wanted to make this "the American Land Cruiser" but then put that stupid hybrid system in it, emphasized this is a family SUV with a 3rd row and then put the ANCIENT transfer case with only 2H, 4H and 4L in it. The Land Cruiser has full-time 4WD with lockable torsen center diff, which is better than what the Americans are doing with their clutch systems, just like the last Sequoia, as you said. This is the laziest SUV conversion from the Tundra that you could make. It's a shame what stupid decision Toyota makes lately.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Well, vast majority of Sequoia buyers have no clue what torsen is, care more about cupholder count and iPhone connectivity, MPG figures and listens to salesperson who says sold rear axle is more reliable. They did put LC on sale for long time and they sold 50 sequoias to every LC sold. Simply selling what the customer asks for. That's what they are doing.
Love this new format with both of you on the same vehicle. You should do this more often!
Too bad about the 3rd row. I guess we will go with the Telluride.
Kia product nah
Toyota had the chance to make that a good 3rd row and missed by that much. I myself wouldn't be in the 3rd row, but it does take away a bit of utility. I also think that should have been an independent rear axle.
I love that you mentioned the reliability, which is critical to me, thanks!
When did he mention that
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 17:05
@@mahmoodaljuboori4046 Ohhh thanks.
I like the comparing segment at the end
The rear storage is a bit of a mess Toyota. It may be livable if the 3rd seats were removeable for most everyday use. I'm still awaiting the final axle, towing and payload figures and for Alex to tow with it!
Wondering if Toyota will come out with a "extended length" version of this...that'd solve the head rest issues in the third row seat and also be in a league with the Suburban, Escalade ESV and Yukon XL
Jean Toronto Raptors that sluggish that cant will struggle to hall people and has low towiny
Head space issue also exists in the second row for tall peoiple when you have the panoramic roof. You can get around be leaning back the seat but that would crush 3rd row passengers
@Jean Toronto Raptors The new Sienna is one of the worst cars I have driven they really missed the mark on that one
They need to fire the person in charge of this platform design!. It's a big SUV and they saying they don't know where to stack the battery?
They need to fire BMW's too and until you guys learn how to only buy it in black and not those stupidly bright colors, I will not let you buy any brand new one.
Awesome job with your work, Keep going!
I liked the rear window on the previous model. I have dogs so it enabled owners to lower the window. It was the only SUV on the market that allowed for that.
I also pull a 2-horse trailer. Which this SUV is great for.
The cargo situation in the rear is a little strange. I don't want customization of the load floor panel in a large expensive suv. I want a large flat space. Period.
Yeah that panel shelf thing is a joke. 🤡 A bandaid on an open wound. A lazy "fix" for a problem they created by being lazy.
My 20 year old Sequoia is better in many ways, worse in some ways....but not enough to persuade me from parting with it.
This has been in the news and marketplace long enough for Toyota to publish fuel economy. Beginning to wonder if it's bad enough that they're afraid to release.
Definitely this. Toyota is very malicious. They lifted the embargo for reviews but didn't reveal the fuel economy. Now there are tons of reviews out there without fuel economy. Toyota knows it's absolutely terrible so they hide it.
@TheMrDudiness OMG you're right. 😂😂😂 The Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid WITH A 6.0L V8 ENGINE gets 21 city and 22 highway as 2WD and 20/20 as 4WD. Wow good job Toyota. 👏👏👏
@TheMrDudiness In which video did they show the MPG?
Great video as always. I really appreciate how to breakdown the quality of the cabin. If the manufacturer cheaps out on the materials, it makes me think where else did they cut corners. Especially at this price point. I’ve noticed with Toyota over the years they are becoming more “American”. Putting cheaper plastics in their cabins.
No auto 4wd is a big problem for people that buy it for winter roads. Otherwise, a nice looking suv.
3rd row seats should be optional. I would definitely have bought one, but I need the cargo space for dogs and hunting stuff - not a 3rd row seat taking up all that room.
Looks great on the outside, unfortunately Toyota’s interior packaging is atrocious, no thanks to that solid axle. Big families will be much happier in a Sienna.
Does Toyota have an explanation for the front airdam, and why it has those airflow cutouts in it? Lots of other airdams out there which are essentially solid, including the Tundra (thought that does have some notches). Maybe it’s for brake cooling or are there additional radiators low down in that region?
It's all about airflow, they claim it improves drag vs a solid one.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide oh interesting, thank you for the clarification.
Not really a Toyota fan, but that thing looks Baller!!
Me have a question this does use a solid axle ... It has a rough ride ... Can anyone tell me what this does better compared to independent suspension? This can be more rugged -how about the wheel travel ? Iam confused ...
Lastly engine don't send power to front wheels?
Solid axle is better for towing and off-road situations.
Front wheels only get power when put into 4WD by button.
As per everyone’s comment, I don’t really see the 3rd as that much of a big deal, it’s the cargo area I’m really not a fan of, it’s a touch too small, but where the sequoia shines is in value, for the amount of power you get and towing capabilities, it’s a very good value compared to the rest Tahoe/
Yukon and Expedition:
Best engine: Costs $58k in the Sequoia. $66k in the Tahoe. $70k+ in the Expedition
Fuel Economy: 20-21 MPG in Sequoia. 16 in Tahoe/
Yukon. 18-19 in Expedition.
Towing: 9500 lbs in Sequoia. 8300 in Tahoe/Yukon.
9300 in Expedition (copy and pasted that info from another comment)
Agreed .i boy. Sequoia is a excellent suv and better than gm and ford .however i would say wagooner is better though .👍
Bravo, Toyota… you built a 2009 mild hybrid Escalade. 🙄🙄🙄🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Only if you ignore the powertrain - but cool story
Tell me if I’m wrong but if I get a limited 4x4 with the trd off-road package, panoramic sunroof, tow technology package, and JBL premium audio… wouldn’t I be very close or over the price of a trd pro? The trd pro has all this standard with the exception of the panoramic. All this to get a 2nd row bench seat... Toyota I may just wait till you make a 2nd row bench in the PRO to buy.
I waited patiently for a redesign of this Sequoia. I now find myself disappointed in the third row space, and the lack of 4auto.
When I saw that terrible design, I ran away from the Sequoia and purchased a Tahoe.
The sliding third row and the cargo shelf is pretty interesting, but it feels like they were included to make up for the core problems with packaging the mechanicals compromising the cabin space...
A lazy "fix" for lazy engineering.
Wow, this third row doesn't look much better than the Highlander, which is small for its class. For people with large families the space back there may be adequate for their smaller kids, but they'd have to trade it in when their kids hit their teens. That means it's only good for maybe five years, which for a Toyota is disappointing. People want to buy and keep them. If they only have two or three kids and can carry them in the second row this would be fine, with the third row reserved for infrequently carrying a couple of friends, and it mostly kept folded for cargo space. Would I buy it in that situation? Maybe, though a two-row crossover would only lose that part-time extra seat. Many of them have just as much cargo space. Then there is the Highlander, which would be just as capable for many - assuming they don't tow much. They still get an occasional third row that has less legroom, but is OK for short trips. And they save a lot of money.
The hybrid sounds appealing, but only if the gas mileage is high. The TT-V6 may not be Toyota's most reliable engine, but it should be competitive enough. The Highlander's hybrid is more proven and likely much more efficient. Basically, the Sequoia's problem is that it doesn't offer that much more than the cheaper, very reliable Highlander hybrid. It's wider, so three kids across the second row is realistic, and it tows more. It seens awkwardly stuck between the Highlander and full-size SUVs that have much roomier third row seats. Then there are minivans, the even better solution for family hauling.
Alex, on a upcoming show will you talk about the danger of Laminated car side windows? A lot of us carry punch out tools to break the side windows in case of a crash in to a pond, lake etc but the punch out tool will not work on laminated side windows which most new cars now have.
Wait really car makers are switching to laminated glass on the side? I thought only the windshield had that and the sides and rear were easy to shatter tempered glass ones.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 The acoustic laminated side glass many are using on higher-end vehicles is a sandwich of plastic with thin layers of glass. It doesn't fragment like safety glass. I don't know if this is actually a safety issue, but I can see that it might be.
The capstone needs normal leather seat options. Remember folks with kids are buying this. I don’t think we want white in the interior.
I don't go off road but I want a safe SUV in the snow and the rain for my family. Do I need this 4wheel drive system on this 2023 Sequoia or TRD Sport 2wheel will be good enough? Would you please cover the drive modes for those who like the reliability and the look of the Sequoia but they don't go off road but want safe SUV for different conditions?
For us taller thicker gentlement, how's the width of the front seats and would you recommend a driver who's 6'5"?
Seat height is adjustable, and the total headroom looks quite generous up there. Full-size pickups (this is based on the Tundra) all seem to have wide front seats. You'd need to try it out, but I suspect it's quite generously sized. You might look up Alex's Tundra review for more detail.
Alex, with the Wastegate issue with some of the new engines.. would you wait momentarily from
purchasing untill tOYota gets it fixed?
Are there any differences between 2023 & 2024? Excellent review, by the way.
Third row kills it for me 😥
Why not compare it against the Grand Cherokee rather than the wagoneer? The Cherokee is about the same price range and to me is something thats much more likely to be cross shopped as they are both full sized SUVs that have some off road chops yet still try to have that more...luxurious interior.
And personally with all the negatives of the Sequioa right now...id definitely go Grand Cherokee.
That being said...ty Alex for actually pointing out the negatives that nobody else seems to be doing.
Great job.
Edit
Notice how most reviews of the Sequioa that only show the positives have comments raving about how great it is. Now that Alex actually showed the downsides of the Sequioa all you see in the comments are disappointed people. Funny how when you actually speak truthfully to people how the sentiment changes. Hopefully when full reviews come out these so called reviewers will finally get off Toyotas junk and give an honest review.
I mean, the Grand Cherokee would be considered midsized, not full sized.
the rear cargo configuration is a mess
Alex, really like the fact you compare to other SUV option from the segment.
The exterior design is one of if not one of the best designs I've seen from Toyota. The new Sequoia is just stunning. I truly hope the next generation Rav4 and Highlander follow a similar design language.
I’m hoping the 4Runner redesign is like this
They should scrap the third row seats and make the second rows more plush in my opinion 💪🏽
It's absolutely mind boggling how much Toyota screwed this up. Insane. Customers buy this type of vehicle for interior space. The new Tundra is completely useless in that regard. For any buyer who wants the interior space of something like a Tahoe the Tundra is not an option, not even close. Who is supposed to buy this? How can a brand like Toyota fail this hard? What were they thinking? Sad to see Toyota go downhill.
See my original comment. You just helped it by a lot
Plus I think you were one of the many people who made fun of me for saying the sequoia and tundra are dead on arrival 😉
It’s not for you doesn’t mean no one buys this. It’s targeting different populations
@@Phong7080Who was asking for a fullsize SUV with small cargo space...
Just buy a minivan for interior space. People buy these vehicles for status
@@OcaOca You are literally contradicting yourself. As you write yourself people buy SUV for status, they do NOT buy vans! NO ONE who wants a SUV for status will buy a Toyota Sienna instead of this. They are just going to buy a different SUV with more space instead.
I just sat in one of these at an auto show and I couldn't believe how bad the third row was with the low flat seats and very limited space for feet below the 2nd seats.
Appreciate the more comprehensive perspective of what it is like to be in the 3rd row of some of these vehicles.
Was waiting the toyota to come up with this version hoping it will accommodate my 5 persons family 👪 .
I just really don't understand this thing and haven't since they unveiled this generation. Not only did they do the complete opposite of every competitor going from IRS to a solid rear axle, and it seems like they created the same uneven cargo floor and seats that people complained about for years in the Tahoe/Suburban before the IRS. I feel like in most daily usage for a family this is a huge downgrade from the old Sequoia.
Yes, you are correct in every aspect. Toyota is just money hungry and won't pay for the development of a good SUV like that. They made a single platform for every body-on-frame vehicle and now hope people are stupid enough to ignore that when GM makes fantastic large SUVs.
Also, some people might come with the argument "but muh Toyota reliability," but this is a totally new complex engine with a hybrid system to boot. Here are the facts: 16.3% of all Toyota Land Cruisers hit 200k miles, 11.2% of all Toyota Sequoias hit 200k miles, and 5.1% of all Chevrolet Suburbans hit 200k miles which is the third longest lasting vehicle in America.
Now, you might say Toyota absolutely destroys these, but here's the thing: Those Toyotas are absolutely ANCIENT. That's the reason Toyotas are so reliable; they are behind on tech; they are not magic. This new Sequoia won't last as long as the old Sequoia, meaning the GM SUVs will catch up. Now, the Sequoia is even less practical than last time, so hopefully, GM SUVs pull ahead even further with sales.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 The old one sold poorly, so developing a separate suspension for it would have added a lot to the price of this new one. I do think they should have worked harder at flattening out the floor as much as possible when they developed the platform. Having your knees under your chin is seriously uncomfortable for any but very short rides, so raising the roof a bit would have also been helpful. Those seat cushions are thick, and likely comfortable, but folded they take up a lot of space. Working on them would also help.
Can you please make a video about Chevy Tahoe with Duramax diesel engine? Want to know which has better mpg Tahoe diesel vs this sequoia?
I think I would look at the duramax diesel from GM over this. I can’t believe I am saying that.
I'm so disappointed in the lack of IRS and the huge compromises that came with the move back to a solid rear axle. I know that the Sequoia is doing double duty for Toyota now since the Land Cruiser isn't sold here but come on. The solid rear axle impacts the interior so much that even the second row sees packaging issues. I suppose most of these (and this is also true for the rest of the segment) will only occasionally have more than 2 people in them, so it might not be an issue for the typical buyer.
why's everyone spamming my subs with the same truck, all at the same time?
I have a feeling a lot of owners are going to find a way to permanently remove that 3rd row seat to gain cargo space.
I hope they will.
What about Capstone vs Yukon Denali (6.2L)?
Good to see Brain😸🙀
Great video Alex 🤙
Alex - I have been mulling choosing between the new Sequoia vs. the Tahoe RST or Z71 with the 3.0L diesel or 6.2L gas engine respectively. Forgetting the mpg issue, what would be your choice in a similarly equipped Sequoia (say limited or Platinum) be vs. Tahoe in these trims and engine choices?
I'm coming out of a late model Sequoia, that I liked, I purchased the Tahoe LT Limited. I got the 5.3L V8. I hate the sound of a diesel engine and I would avoid a turbo charged engine at all costs. The negative with General Motors versus Toyota is that General Motors has the universally loathed Engine stop-start. Fortunately, there's an override button now. Permanent solutions are also readily available. General Motors also has daytime running lights that does not improve safety, but again, you can override that with a switch on the dash.
@@krelllab6366 The Negative with GM is that its absolute trash compared to Toyota... Historical reliability from GM is abysmal and on top of that, resale value is always much lower than Toyota...
Better battery packaging is needed.
7:30 Is the navigation going to be an additional option? If so that means not only do you have to pay for that feature, but also a subscription fee later on just to use maps. Considering Toyota's recent decisions to pay wall basic tech features like remote start, his is a bad look for the future
Just do like most people and use whatever mapping software you have on your phone. With Google Maps you can download in advance maps for whatever region you want. Mapping software in the vehicle infotainment system is an unneeded luxury now. All I can figure is they skimped on storage because of the global chip shortage. If people are going to connect their phones anyhow, why duplicate the software?
Alex, what kind of suitcase is that?
Alex, how does this Toyotas interior volume compare to your Durango? Also how would you compare interior fit and finish from your Durango SRT to this? I have a 70k budget, my short list is Series 1 Wagoneer, Tahoe RST, Durango SRT and this Sequoia
Grand Cherokee
Just wanted to say I laughed my azz out with the review you do for Sofian and the jokes 🤣
its came to my knowledge that Toyota killed ATRACK feature which was standard with all 4WD, mostly if you have SR5 with 4WD , ATRACK was enough to take you from many difficult situations and now they are offering MTS as add on , ATRACK used to be free standard add on .
That third row setup is outright terrible.
Really puzzled why this doesn’t have independent rear suspension
They wanted to share more parts with Tundra than before.
Good lord thats a tiny trunk, not a fan of the divider thingy. Also way too much for not a lot of space on the inside. I could get a fully loaded QX60 for less. Could also get a lincoln aviator for less. This is too small on the inside to really compare to other full size SUV's.
Yup just as I warned you all the sequoia is a fail before it goes on sale
@naveenthemachine Oh I finally found you! What are your thoughts on this Sequoia?
I’m waiting for the Toyota grand Highlander
God they could’ve just used the IRS. That’s really the main issue here when it comes to space. Even if the rear seats weren’t that huge, they could’ve at least created a flat load floor.
Is it just me or does the front spoiler look very vulnerable to you?
What is the release date ?
Yota dropped the ball, big time.
wish it had more space in the trunk, the board in the back is thrifty and i like that. can't wait for fuel prices to drop again one day......
Toyota should have put battery of atleast 4 Kwh instead of 1.8 Kwh to make more sense of hybrid driving.
Can you review TRD Pro as well?
Should I trade in my 22 4Runner for this?
If the Highlander maintained a consistent gym routine for a few months.
It's mind boggling to me how many reviews focus solely on the room of the 3rd row... I get that its not as roomy for 6'+ people... especially when compared to the older models. But unless you are regularly hauling around six or more adults that are ALL over 6 foot tall... this isn't even a thing that anyone would even worry about.
First off... when you have adults and kids, Adults always go up front or in 2nd row... then if you have all adults and some of them are tall... those tall people go in the first or 2nd row and the short adults go to the rear... Even with my 2011 Sequoia that I have owned for 13.5 years... which has one of the most comfortable and roomiest 3rd rows ever made... this is still the case... Tall people rarely are the ones that go to the back seat.. And its NOT because of the leg room... or even the head room when sitting down... its how far they have to bend over to get back there as they walk / crawl back there... My extended family is made up of 6'+ people and 5'5 people... and this has been the case whenever anyone is getting in any car... short people go to the back... its just how things work... So making such a mountain out of a molehill is just tiresome...
The more concerning issue that RARELY gets talked about is the huge loss in overall cargo capacity compared to the old Sequoia models...
You drop from 120.1 to 86.9... yet its almost NEVER mentioned... and instead every reviewer harps on the fact the 3rd row that zero 6'+ tall people will ever sit in, is slightly not as comfortable as a horribly low quality manufacturer like GMC or Ford...
that loss in cargo space is a HUGE hit to someone who enjoys the older sequoia for its ability to haul a LOT of things around with all the seats down... and is a MUCH greater concern than the 3rd row knee raise numbers...
Interesting first effort at an update, but still not competitive, and the cargo arrangement is plain nuts. Subscription-only navigation is ridiculous.
You just helped my comment
@@naveenthemachine naveenthemachine you just helped my comment that only proves you are a troll and the sequoia is truely excellent as well.the best way to know if a product is good ?. its simple if you say its a failure or dead on arrival then that means its a success.🍾🥂👍
I'm generally a Toyota guy, but this feels like a big miss. Overall, this vehicle is getting pummeled in the auto press due to ponderous handling, so-so materials quality and terrible packaging. Not a good week for such reveals - first the disappointing HR-V, now this.
What’s wrong with the new hrv?
Hrv is fine. This however is one of the worst large SUVs in it’s class
@@naveenthemachine It ranks last in the Car and Driver ranking even behind the ancient Nissan Armada. 😂
@naveenthemachine Toyota is very malicious. They lifted the embargo for reviews but didn't reveal the fuel economy. Now there are tons of reviews out there without fuel economy. Toyota knows it's absolutely terrible so they hide it.
@@xBeeGee - read a review, and the comments. lower mpg than the prior generation, no magic seat, barely improved power, much higher price, no hybrid, etc.
Re closing comments: I’d love to be able to put my kids in the back and they have toys and books in the foot well back there. They don’t need the headroom.
What a great way to start the day! A video of a vehicle for whenever I make it.
Keep up the amazing videos! Stay safe!
Beautiful car with so many great features - completely ruined by the trunk. Do they think everyone has five kids? Why not actually clear all that out and offer a strong low access load space like the old LC. we’ve lost the Land Cruiser and the other alternative is gone now too.
Guzzle Tub in the era of $6 gas. Silly.
Combined leg room is irrelevant. Just ask the person in one row if they feel they have better legroom because another row is more generous.
Weird packaging choices especially when you think Toyota had 15 years (?!) to prepare for this new generation Sequoia.
The problem is the Toyota execs in Japan wanted to kill it of. The tundra team convinced them to keep it but had to promise the keep costs down. They didn’t have the development budget for IRS and a good third row.
@@slscamg Sad. And Toyota plans to keep this until when? 2040?! 😅 At least the previous gen Sequoia was competitive (maybe even the top of its class) when it was launched in 2008 😄
This really seems like some poor decision making from Toyota product management.
Certainly seems to me that if they offered this without the hybrid which offers almost zero fuel economy increase, they’d have more accommodating rear seat room, increased payload and a lower price. How is the Tundra offered in that guise and not the SUV version where people SURELY will care less about the extra torque the electric motor provides than the thousands of dollars it costs and space it takes up?
This really feels like a product built for a very small niche customer - parents with 2 kids who almost never need a 3rd row, but also don’t mind having hugely compromised storage capacity/configuration (no flat load floor), but who DO want big towing capability (Solid axle) and therefore can’t live with a highlander…oof. What the hell happened here?
I don’t think the hybrid powertrain was meant for efficiency at all, im pretty sure it’s more for the increase in power
They hybrid was to increase city mpg efficiency….
@@alwaysiyi272 Toyota markets it as ‘max’ in the Tundra, not really citing better mpg but more power. I assume it’s the same here too. My point was I doubt many Sequoia buyers care about the extra power, they’d rather the more usable storage, or lower cost by removing it.
Sad that they only offer the 22gal fuel tank for it. They could have squeezed the 32gal tank in. I guess they are forcing the small ranges like EVs on us.
My niece wants to buy an 8 passenger SUV, possibly the Sequoia; but she has three little boys: 9, 5, and 3 years old. they drive to the mountains of New Hampshire and the Jersey beach and she will need video monitors on the back of the seats so the boys can watch movies. Do you think Toyota will offer this?? She wants the 2023 Sequoia.
The biggest problem with the expedition is that it’s fugly
First time I’ve looked at a sequoia and said, “that’s looks good”
It’s a bit disappointing. I wish they could put all the tech in the old generation which had a ton more room.