Home-made Hall effect joystick for Flight Simulator 2020
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2020
- I designed a built this 3D printed joystick, that uses an Arduino Pro Micro and magnets with hall effect sensors to sense Pitch and Roll.
If you would like, you can try and make one for yourself. The STL files and instructions can be found here: www.thingiverse.com/thing:457... - เกม
If covid keeps this man busy he'll be 3d printing a chair that simulates g-forces
Dude, thanks so much for this. Your explanation of the hall effect sensor was fantastic. It helped me alot with regard to a project I've been banging my head against a wall trying to figure out.
Nice vid, although would've been great if you went over the software side of things
agreed. I got one printed, assembled, and wired up but I cannot get the software to work
update: he did go over the software more in a recent video, I watched that and got mine working
@@chrisbowpiloto Can you link the video you used?
@@stayfly7009 th-cam.com/video/YAbi_AqF7aQ/w-d-xo.html
It is an amazingly well designed joystick, the indipendent set of springs really makes it stand out from many commercial alternatives, even the t16000 from thrustmaster that also uses hall efffect
Great video and really great ideas about the mechanical side of a custom joystick. Thank you! And, FYI the Hall Effect is named after Edwin Hall who discovered it in 1879.
Was about to comment this. thanks
You mean discovered it
Wow, this is amazing. Looks like i'm off to go buy some more M3's. really looking forward to seeing the files for the throttle and the rudder pedals.
I always really appreciate people like you sharing and uploading projects like this, as sometimes responding to the community, creating build guides etc. is as much effort as doing the project in the first place!
Good luck with the build. Send a photo when you get it working! I uploaded the throttle and pedals just now too:
www.thingiverse.com/thing:4578174 www.thingiverse.com/thing:4578169
@@AkakiKuumeri hi their ,is it possible too modify the aileron and elevator on a speedlink black widow with hall effect sensors,and magnets,my flight stick has a kind of quirky sensitivty[doesnt work like it should]fsx.what you have made is really interesting and you look like you are very capable of doing anything electric.ect.thank you for listening....
You put a lot of effort into this video! Nice work!
Awesome video. I've been building a DIY throttle using an Arduino to use alongside an old joystick and had been thinking of how to do a joystick next. Great to see that the mechanism can actually be really quite simple and put together with cheap parts.
Very clever designs and very inspirational. I ordered my magents and hall effect sensors right after watching this. Always wanted a proper throttle quadrant - all while not offending my bank manager.
When i was unsuccesfully searching for x56 hotas joystick in my country (long gone due to Covid) everyday, then i see this! Finaly i can enjoy some dcs that i got and sitting in steam space for months due to lack of joystick. Thank you so much!
Glad I could help!
Came across your video while researching the possibility of converting the poorly designed Valve Index VR controllers to use hall effect joysticks. This gave me some ideas so thanks.
This is a very good explanation of using Hall Effect Sensors in Flight Sim applications. I think the materials used to construct the Joystick could be better. But as a starter project for someone wanting to explore building their own kit, this is one of the better beginner projects on TH-cam.
Thanks! I agree with you
I love the ATmega32U4. For my master's thesis I developed an experimental type of solid state 6 dof joystick and I used this board also! I also used a ATmega32U4 board on a small bldc motor driver because it has a timer, timer4, that has 3 comparators on it so you can get the 3 phases setup super easy compared to timers without 3 comparators. Nice little chip
I had a arduino joystick module laying around and after some modifications i got it working this is a really nice model thanks
Love those clean 3d print components, looks good
I searched so long for something like this! Thank you very much!
This looks so much better than the Thrustmaster T.16000M I'm currently using
I'm absolutely done with twist-axis joysticks
Thanks so much for the info, especially how you used the hall effect sensor. Much appreciated!
I think this is such an awesome project, but since I already have a decent joystick, I would love to see more of an in depth revisit of the throttle system you designed. I am currently building a DIY stream deck based on the same principles, and I was thinking of being able to dual purpose that with flight sim, Elite Dangerous, and a few others, but I would definitely need a throttle system to go along with it, and it would be nice to have something like yours. Thanks for the awesome video!
Awesome work. Thanks for sharing. That's some cool engineering!
My Genius Brother. I'm So Glad I Found You. I've been here awhile just wanted to give you a shout out. you deserve the 'LOVE' and as always Thanks again for the Tech Info. I Always use your Videos for Inspiration
Great video! Though you might wanna look up the Hall effect. It's called that because it was discovered by Edwin Hall which is also why the "Hall" in Hall effect is capitalised. But in the end it's just a neat fact and not that crucial to the project. Your explanation of the effect was quite nice though. Might help people remember what it's called and what it does more easily. Keep up the tinkering!
Thanks for the info!
I was sure he was joking about "Hall" being named after "hallway".
I'm still not sure.
I'm a physicist and you explained it better than my university teachers 😂. Very nice and smart project indeed, learnt so many practical things, thnx a lot.
Man you are a legend! I would love to see some more in dept video about the programming of the arduino, I am just a beginner in programming.
This is awesome! Thank you for explaining it as well. Also, the crash was pretty hilarious...
I've been thinking about making something like this forever! thank you!
I play some FS19, and was thinking of getting a second joystick. But building one was always in the back of my head, Thank you very much for this. It is really appreciated. The easy part is downloading the stl's hehe.
really cool design and result. will save it for later.
Awesome video and creation!, I saw your post in reddit today.
Excellent video! Many thanks 👍 Please keep flying MSFS and making 3D printed peripherals for it... we need more like this!
Very cool! I might give it a try, thanks for sharing!
thanks so much for this tutorial! i have a project ive been stuck on for so long on how i wanted to make it work but this is the Perfect mechanism im looking for. updates to come!
Pretty cool video. I am planning to 3D model my own design and stick. This video gave me lots of encouragement and knowledge for the project!!!
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I really like it! I will certainly give it a shot
this is awesome. i'm going down the rabbit hole of making a game controller again and hall effect sensors seem to much cleaner than a potentiometer
By far the best one I've seen. I'd also love to see info on the throttle too.
Thanks. You can see the files here: www.thingiverse.com/thing:4578169
Great design!!!
this is aamzing ur tallent is insane
This is amazing! Is there any chance that you could make a video on how to wire the throttle?
This is fantastic. Very nice work! Always interesting to see the previous versions and what went wrong, thank you for that.
Currently the Thingiverse pages are not operating for these 3 projects, I hope it for an update you're doing...? Either way, I really look forward to checking it out in detail. Thank you for this
Thank you. Thingiverse is horrible lately. I'll see if I can do something to the project pages.
Very cool project man, i think i will try to make it
This is awesome! How long did it take you to design/make it? You sound like you know what you’re doing and make it seem so easy. I’ve been trying to design a human input device for myself, no product design experience, and it’s way more difficult than I thought it would be. Your design is inspiring, and makes me want to try other ideas I have!
great tutorial. I will like to do my own joystick too. Glad you made this.
Btw you should check your configs in your slicer software :) you got huge holes in your 3d printed skin :D
can you please release a vlog on how you made this idea of the linear magnet study? I hope you reach an audience group where what you did here has change how i think. Usually i used 1 magnet thinking of being cheap but as you ascertain this logic in, that concept i will accept given that you brought forward a solution. I hope the gaming community benefit alot from this.
Awesome project
There is a compnay that demoed magnetic force feedback joysticks. That would be perfect for your stick!
Nice work, thank you so much!
Forget Virpils got to print me some of these! :D
Thank you a lot for sharing your knowledge! Helps me definitely :-)
I think the word you looking for is linear when the sensor is dead in the center of the field. By the way nice work on the joystick, thou rough but that's what expected from prototypes :)
Great Poject, thank you for sharing the information and the files! I' m building it right now. How did you choose this specific hall sensor?
Great video, thanks
Don't know if anyone else mentioned that already. In case not: You can activate the developer mode in the Sim to avoid having to reload after a crash.
Very cool video, I'm trying to replace my pots in my racing pedals by making my own hall sensors and I'm using your advice to make them. Do you think I would still need two neodymium magnets or could I use one? Thanks in advance!
I just made one and it works perfectly thanks
Awesome to hear! Have fun
Good job! I think there could be a better version if you make the hall sensor stationary and put those magnets on the moving parts.
I am impressed. Thanks for good explanation. I am working on this type projects with esp32. I have question:) . Why did you use hall effect sensors rather than joystick modules? Its add complexity to your project(but it looks cool :)) and if you using pla, pla creeps under continuous stress (its happens to me but can't prove it :D im now using petg) Precision probably lower than potentiometers. Because you have to align correctly the magnets and all magnets don't have same magnetic flux.This is my thought i m not often use hall effects sensors, maybe i am wrong. And yes my grammar mistakes can hurt your eyes:D.
GREAT PROJECT. I think a twin joystick for the increasingly popular space sim would be good as well. Im attempting the same same with a few RC plane gimbals M9frysky) and have them connected up but cant seem to get the great results you have (even after calibration the joysticks are over sensitive and screwy) I tried to modify your code but couln't add a second joystick. You make it look easy. Wish you could help.
3rd axis on this and you'd instantly put, like, 4 flight stick companies out of business,
Nice, Awesome Project !!! I will design new Update about the 3D & new type of sensors
Thanks Legend!
7:35 I thought the Hall effect was named after its inventor Edwin Hall. LoL. It was. 😂
However, great video. 👍🏽
The right type of Hall effect sensor for this application is a ratiometric linear hall effect sensor.
Love it :)
Hello, which region of the world and MSFS 2020 scenarios do you demonstrate your gadgets?? The presentation is very beautiful and I would like to fly there too!
Is it possible to use the KEYESTUDIO Leonardo R3 ATMEGA32U4? Because it seems like the chip has the same name as the one you are using?
Although nice done with this project! Keep it up, perhaps it could be cool to develop a Yoke version on this one, if is possible?
This is really amazing. I will print this. I also wonder if there is a way to adapt this for games that require 3 and 4 axies ala Kerbal Space Program or other space sims.
Teensy controllers have a hotas thing in them already.
What I really like is I can make a stick that actually fits my hand
Yes, teensy LC is the best and would be a perfect fit for this project since that have integrated Joystick emulation.
Good video, but i have to know what the resistance of the potentiometer for the pedals is
Welcome! Sir! I noticed you have your own-made throttle for the flight simulator. Could you please make a video describing what software or library you used for Arduino and the parts you used? Best regards, Michael.
Great work! But dude, get some dampening grease between those plastic surfaces rubbing against each other for a premium feel. See Nyogel 767A.
would you mind posting the STEP files so it is easier to mod?
8:36 Me when I finally managed to put this together and MSFS just got an update
Hey dude great build! But how did u connect it to msfs2020 tho?
just as a point, REAL joysticks (or flight controls) do not have a detent. The pressure on the controls comes from the pressure of the airflow against them.
Hello Akaki, I was looking for a substitute for the sensor SS496A1 because it is very expensive for me and I end up watching your video, do you think I can use the AH3503 without any differences?
Hey I have printed this and put it together but I have a bit of play between the hinge and joystick shaft. Did you use washers between them. The play causes the elevation axis the go to close to one sensor so you get a stronger input.
Hey Akaki! awesome stuff. Trying to build the rudders now. Do you have a code for just that one specifically? Thank you and awesome build!!
thank you!
Nice work! I would like to know a little more about the rudder pedals though. What potentiometer would you recommend for your design?
Any resistance value of the common old potentiometer will work. I don't know what their parts name is, but you know it when you see it. Just make sure it's a linear one, not one of those logarithmic ones (used for volume knobs sometimes)
Hey Ramon, I have voided many a warranty on joysticks, rudder pedals , etc (I'm actually tinkering with a project similar to this one but bigger; for an entire VR cockpit) and I don't think I've seen anything other than a 10K Ohm potentiometer being used. Given Mr. Kuumeri's response though, if 10K is some kind of a benchmark or standard amongst manufacturers I couldn't tell you why. Hope that helps.
Super fucking impressive
I know this is an old video, but I have recently decided that I want to make a flight stick of my own. At the extreme, it will have 26 buttons (four being a hat switch, not sure if that matters), X Y and Z axis, and maybe a throttle/trim tab like yours. Would I be able to do all of that with 1 Arduino, or would I have to chain them somehow? Thanks!
what hall effect sensors do you use?
how does the arduino board work? how many axis and buttons can you wire to it?
One thing I think people need to be aware of, I believe you need a specific type of Hall Effect sensor, I was super hyped to build this controller and skipped researching and happened to buy 3 lots of wrong ones which unfortunately output digital signal instead of analog. I gotta find a purpose for them soon.
doing the samething tho, but it works at least
@@AbuGuroza hey do u guys know any alternative sensor in amazoon only digital output version is available
@@arunachalpradesh399 hmmm i never use amazon, but thankfully the one i got in here is analog one
@@AbuGuroza yes bro, please tell the name of that sensor,
@@arunachalpradesh399 49E Hall element OH49E SS49E
Can u please make a list of elements that you used: like end switch ...
Congrats ! Great job! Could you kindly make a 3d printed YOKE version of this beautiful creation?
I’m sure you saw my dualshock yoke video. Did you try that out?
In my country it would be very expensive do the fact that I would be obligated to buy an Xbox controller first then 3D print all the double yoke system ,so could you please do a 3D printed real Cessna or Piper yoke with this hall sensor?
@@foodtrucksaopaulonogueir3881 You should checkout CadetYoke, this guy has already made something like that: th-cam.com/video/kb5BGZTot-4/w-d-xo.html
@@AkakiKuumeri Thanks a lot
I think I would buy low profile mechanical keyboard switches for the face buttons.
I'll be using an xbox joystick sensor module, kinda worried it'll be too flimsy. To mitigate, I'll use the joystick as a stopper that will make sure that the module doesn't overextend, to make sure I don't break the module.
It might have been just my impression but it looked like there was a delay between the joystick moves and the game. How accurate it is?
excelente diseño! (awesome design!) Could you make a tutorial for the final configuration, wiring, and arduino script? thaks a lot, y really love this!
This is exactly what I've been looking for! However, I'm having zero luck finding the specified AH3503 hall sensors in the USA. Can someone point me to a different part number that will work?
Can you please make a video showing how to display different values from the simulator to an external display. Thanks
Respect.
Bro, really great work! I don’t have access to a soldering kit but I would love to just buy a copy of this set from you if you built it for me.
can other hall effect sensors be used? and if yes is there any change to be made
Can you add information a bout the orientation you printed all the parts incl. the throttle? Also what kind of M3 bolts and length did you use? Great idea btw!
All parts are oriented as they should be printed in the files. (except I think the joystick shaft part had a slight angle)
For M3 bolts I got a little assorted set with lengths from 5 mm to 40 mm, as well as nuts and washers. I mostly used 25mm long ones I think, but it's best if you have a few different lengths for the different spots. A set is less than 10 usd on ebay if you can't find it locally.
@@AkakiKuumeri can you post a link to your set, I can not find any sets having a M3x40mm, max is always 30mm.
Thanks!
I wonder if this could work with DCS, super interested to play dcs but don't have the mula to buy a joystick and all those equipment.
hello akaki , there is hole for adrduino to connect through usb at the front side, than why there is big rectangle hole at back side?. in the video you connected with something like black flat cable.
Would you be so kind and draw a schematic how to solder the buttons and hall sensors to the arduino? Absolute beginners who just want to rebuild your flightstick need something like this ;)
Another question: How should the magnets be arranged, NS NS, SN SN, NS SN or SN NS?
still having problem? i put it randomly and working properly, just a little bit jittery