What's My Line? - Groucho Marx; Tony Randall [panel] (Oct 13, 1963)

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  • Groucho returns to the show, sans toupee, 4 years after he appeared on the panel and effortlessly reduced the proceedings to a shambles. I suspect this was a tryout by the producers to see if Groucho could be trusted to play enough by the rules return to the panel (which he finally did more than a year later.)
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  • @andrewgilmore7669
    @andrewgilmore7669 10 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    I've seen Grocuho's segment about 50 times, but it's always worth another look.

  • @fonso1030
    @fonso1030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Mr. and Mrs. John Smith, the legendary hotel sign-in for amorous and illicit couples. Groucho was the greatest 🤣

  • @VicMartino
    @VicMartino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Groucho Marx is one of the greatest comedians/entertainers of the 20th century. And I may add of all time.

  • @djsavagetv
    @djsavagetv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    “This was waste of evening” 😂😂😂 hilarious episode. I love this show man🤎

  • @davidsanderson5918
    @davidsanderson5918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I wonder if Dorothy's "I would've thought it wouldn't be allowed now"....and Daly's "well let's not get into....".....is in reference to the move in 1963 to make Bible-reading in US schools non-compulsory. I thought that was quite edgy of Dorothy, in a good way, to bring that up.

    • @dalej42
      @dalej42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, my own priest told me stories like that, he was from rural Texas and they definitely had preachers in school all the time and bible reading in the mid 1980s.

    • @gailsirois7175
      @gailsirois7175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Though she was immediately shut diwn..didn't even finish the sentence

    • @bogieviews
      @bogieviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dalej42 And now we have something really "fabulous" going on in the schools.

  • @TheFrizbaloid
    @TheFrizbaloid ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What’s really funny is Groucho says he’s from Deutchland (Germany) from Strasbourg, which is actually in France. Then he says he’s from Salzburg, which is in Austria.

  • @danielasietkiewicz8417
    @danielasietkiewicz8417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    As if they couldn’t tell it was Groucho..apart from the voice..the smell of cigar would have been a dead give away! 😄

    • @mehboobkm2018
      @mehboobkm2018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thought the same!

    • @slaytonp
      @slaytonp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They knew how to play the game, whatever it required, which is why it lasted so long.

    • @arlenecerf8833
      @arlenecerf8833 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Could have been George Burns or Milton Berle - they loved their cigars as well 😂

    • @slaytonp
      @slaytonp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arlenecerf8833 Ernie Kovaks, too. You can almost smell it 70 years later on You Tube.

    • @PROUDCANADIANGIRL
      @PROUDCANADIANGIRL ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought that too about George Burns with the cigar… lol. But it still took them a couple questions each.

  • @jillgordon1003
    @jillgordon1003 9 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    5:53
    "Bennett's a people."
    I don't know why I find that so adorable.

  • @gtrDan1963
    @gtrDan1963 10 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    This was not only enjoyable, but interesting historically, as across the ocean in London, England ( 5 hours ahead of EST ) The Beatles had only hours before on the same date performed their famous "London Palladium" show, which made them national stars in the U.K. Also, within a couple hours of this broadcast on early Monday, October 14, 1963, I was born !
    Always enjoyed Groucho, as he was not only very funny, but really unpredictable.
    Great post !

    • @mty183
      @mty183 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You old

    • @gtrDan1963
      @gtrDan1963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mty183 Yes, I am !😁

    • @rtflone
      @rtflone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gtrDan1963 I have you beat 13 yrs you're just a pup..

    • @lorenanders702
      @lorenanders702 ปีที่แล้ว

      The London Palladium show was the start of Beatlemania, lasting 3 years

  • @alskndlaskndal
    @alskndlaskndal 10 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    The people in this studio were blissfully unaware that across the ocean on this very night, a quartet from Liverpool took the stage at the London Palladium, triggering the outbreak of "Beatlemania." A condition that would spread to this country, and affect it in ways they couldn't imagine, a few months later.

    • @druidbros
      @druidbros 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yep. I am reading the first volume (of three) of the new biography of the Beatles - Tune In by Mark Lewisohn. Its really good.

    • @ristovirtanen6396
      @ristovirtanen6396 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Actually I liked them since I heard them from local jukebox singing: From me to you, Twist and shout…👍👌👏 but I never screamed…🙄

    • @Cerph
      @Cerph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And a little more than a month later, JFK was assassinated.

    • @lorrainem8234
      @lorrainem8234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cerph 💔

    • @Rangernewb5550
      @Rangernewb5550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1963 was a hell of a year

  • @andrewgilmore7669
    @andrewgilmore7669 10 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I think the panel was playing dumb... after a minute or two, how could the answers they were receiving come from anybody BUT Groucho Marx? There's no way they wouldn't have recognized that sense of humor, and that voice. I think they were bluffing just to keep the game going.

    • @WhatsMyLine
      @WhatsMyLine  10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree-- especially the voice, which at times was unmistakably Groucho's.

    • @andrewgilmore7669
      @andrewgilmore7669 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What's My Line?
      Exactly.

    • @davidsanderson5918
      @davidsanderson5918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Andrew Gilmore I rather hope it was to frustrate Groucho....I'd LOVE to pretend I didn't know who he was if I was on the panel. "Groucho who??" "Oh him!! Plays the harp, yeah?"

    • @kennethlatham3133
      @kennethlatham3133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not to mention, the CIGAR SMOKE! I thought that would betray him immediately!

    • @slaytonp
      @slaytonp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kennethlatham3133 This has always bothered me too, with other known cigar smoking contestants, but I think that since nearly everyone smoked, even while on the panel, and possibly everywhere in the studio, it would be less significant to them. I know that I was far less sensitive to the smell of tobacco smoke back then, even though I didn't smoke myself, than I am now after spending many years in a generally smoke free environment.

  • @dev-lx8lp
    @dev-lx8lp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I believe Duck Soup was the first Marx Brothers film I saw on TV as a child, not even in school yet. I have been an ardent fan ever since! On Mr. Marx's TV show YOU BET YOUR LIFE he asked some questions of a contestant, "Do you have a family?" The contestant said, "Yes a wife and 10 or so children." Groucho replied, "Wow that is a lot of children." The contestant answered, "Yes, I love my wife." Groucho instantly came back with, "I love my cigar, but I take it out once in a while".

  • @33maisie
    @33maisie 10 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Wouldn't you love to see what Groucho said to the panel during the commercial break?

  • @taylordean9904
    @taylordean9904 10 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I would have asked him whether or not this product is found in your kitchen

    • @larchmontmark1
      @larchmontmark1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nice!! (For benefit of the peanut gallery: reference to a perseverative non-sequitur by Groucho in his prior panel appearance.)

    • @davidsanderson5918
      @davidsanderson5918 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Taylor Dean Ohhhh don't remind me. I HATED that episode. What a berk he was.

    • @kennethlatham3133
      @kennethlatham3133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davidsanderson5918 Who cares if he was a berk? It's Groucho! He can je the biggest berk he wants to je!

    • @sandrabruns8985
      @sandrabruns8985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kennethlatham3133 Hahaaaha...You are too junny!
      I agree...It's Groucho!

    • @rharvey2124
      @rharvey2124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kennethlatham3133 That's exactly why they had Groucho on.
      Too bad they ran out of time because Groucho was on a roll and really had the panel going.

  • @loissimmons6558
    @loissimmons6558 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This comment could go on any WML? video, but I am posting it here because it occurred to me shortly before watching this particular episode. (And maybe it is especially appropriate because Groucho pretty much acts like he can't hear the question every time.)
    It is fairly consistent that the panel and the challengers have trouble hearing each other from time to time. It occurs to me that it was deliberately kept that way so the panel wouldn't be able to overhear conferences between John Daly and the challengers.

  • @johnholtz7801
    @johnholtz7801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Did anyone notice Tony Randall immediately use a napkin to wipe his hands after shaking the first guests hand? He really was Felix

    • @kennethlatham3133
      @kennethlatham3133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Probably a sweaty-palmed contestant; nerves.

    • @lopa2828
      @lopa2828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or probably he guessed the outbreak of covid and the usefulness of hand sanitization at that time. So he was making himself ready for it. 😇😇

    • @landlubber541
      @landlubber541 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe it was the chalk.

  • @scotnick59
    @scotnick59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Groucho was actually a highly intelligent person, if a bit of a pain at times

    • @davidsanderson5918
      @davidsanderson5918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kirk Barkley I find him a pain all the time he's on here. This isn't comedy it's just being oppositional and unco-operative. Any child can do that.

    • @Lige
      @Lige 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@davidsanderson5918 No they can't.

    • @kennethlatham3133
      @kennethlatham3133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@davidsanderson5918 Keep talking! He needs straight men like you to work off of.

    • @sodality3970
      @sodality3970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I loved Groucho and the Marx Brothers as a kid , but I remember a book I bought back when I was a teen ( 1975 ) called , "The Marx Brother's Scrapbook" . It was so filthy and full of the "F" word , that I ended up throwing it away later on .

    • @bluecamus5162
      @bluecamus5162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think he tried to be Rufus T. Firefly all of the time, which was a stretch and a strain to be that witty and manic every time out. Even the great Robin Williams had to give up being Mork from Ork.

  • @aatragon
    @aatragon 10 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I cannot thank you enough for posting these gems. What an incredible treat! Noteworthy on this one is that I would have guessed Danny Kaye also, based solely on Groucho's fake voice. Wonderful!

    • @WhatsMyLine
      @WhatsMyLine  10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Gary Peterson My pleasure, Gary. Glad you're enjoying the shows.

    • @davidsanderson5918
      @davidsanderson5918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep he was also painful to watch as an MG!

    • @rtflone
      @rtflone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidsanderson5918 If there's ever been a bigger pain in the tush than Groucho I'm not aware of them. Harpo and Chico were funny especially Harpo. I just never got the attraction to Groucho. Outside of show biz he may have been great person to know. That I cannot speak to..

  • @joelake7986
    @joelake7986 10 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    For a good time, call Groucho.

  • @tugginalong
    @tugginalong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tony Randall realizes he’s looking at a legend while shaking hands.

  • @bitscolumn
    @bitscolumn 10 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Loved Tony Randall.

  • @PROUDCANADIANGIRL
    @PROUDCANADIANGIRL ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I wasn’t born until 71 so I don’t remember this show but recently we found it here on YT and man oh man… it’s HILARIOUS and just all round a really fun show. I could binge this all day … the best was a woman came on from Fergus Ontario which is about a half hour from us and was a baseball hall of famer umpire!!! We were so proud of her and turns out I know a few people from Fergus who knew her and her hubby. 🇨🇦 ⚾️

  • @MrJoeybabe25
    @MrJoeybabe25 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Would an animal really have a feeling of well-being after having this product is applied? I think it would almost come under the heading of animal abuse (but not in 1963 of course).

    • @igkoigko9950
      @igkoigko9950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not “almost” abuse. Abuse. Especially the products with an odor.

    • @gailsirois7175
      @gailsirois7175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just what I thought..they would not enjoy it

  • @soulierinvestments
    @soulierinvestments 10 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Groucho was a voracious reader. His favorite evening's activity was reading at home. He took books and magazines with him wherever he worked. You can find on the Internet that he was good writer as well. Obviously he had an editor on "Memoirs of a Mangy Lover," but Groucho gave them plenty of manuscript to work over.
    "Well, this has been a wasted evening." Not by a long shot, sir.

    • @WhatsMyLine
      @WhatsMyLine  10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Groucho always wanted to be a great writer, but in my opinion he just wasn't (and I know many other Marx fans who share this view). Most of his close friends were writers, and his son Arthur became a writer as a clear attempt at winning his father's approval.
      Groucho strains far too hard to be funny in every sentence in his books, and says very little of substance, even in his "formal" autobiography, "Groucho and Me". Compare this to Harpo's autobiography, written with the help of a pro, which became one of the most indispensable pieces of literature about the Marx Bros, a field that's quite seriously overcrowded with books. "Mangy Lover" is one of Groucho's weakest, just a collection of essays that largely ape Perelman and Benchley.

    • @loissimmons6558
      @loissimmons6558 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The title of Groucho's book and the discussion of his reading habits brings to mind one of my favorite Groucho quotes:
      "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."

    • @preppysocks209
      @preppysocks209 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sometime you may want to check out Groucho's TV appearance when the Library of Congress asked him to donate his papers. Groucho had a 6th grade education. He starts reading on the air the letter from the Librarian, Quincy Mumford, and the audience laughed because they thought he was making a joke. But he wasn't. He was incredibly moved that only in America would a leading cultural institution seek out the papers for its permanent collection from someone with so little formal education. A great writer was a friend of his, too, TS Eliot. They had autographed pictures of each other on each other's office wall. But TS had to ask Groucho for another because his visitors did not recognize Groucho in a photo in which he wasn't wearing his greasepainted eyebrows and such.

  • @philippapay4352
    @philippapay4352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was a teenager when this show was filmed and for the life of me have no clue now why we wanted to bother "teasing" our hair and buying gallons of hair spray to look like we had a growth of some sort on our heads. Either that or some creature nesting in the "rat's nest."

    • @kennethlatham3133
      @kennethlatham3133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably for the same reason you like to walk around attracting attention to your buttocks by having "JUICY" printed across it or wearing your jeans so low your *ss is hanging out, or having ghastly irreversible tattoos all over every exposed part of your body, or shaving your head & genitalia and allowing hair to grow on your armpits and legs: FASHION

  • @forrestfootball
    @forrestfootball ปีที่แล้ว +5

    John taking some shots at Bennett in the opening of this episode. After 13 years of taking it he is starting to fire back!

  • @robertmelson2130
    @robertmelson2130 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thank you, Tony Randall! 6:48 In the space of 30 seconds he establishes that something vegetable can be alive and that the word consumable does not mean merely eaten or drunk (he uses the term, "...in the larger sense a consumable product"). A very tight resolution of a couple of WML inconsistencies. Too bad neither John or the panel will remember this.

    • @davidsanderson5918
      @davidsanderson5918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Robert Melson All of them could save time and just ask "can this item be eaten or drunk?".....or, for non-edible items that are consumable, "does this item need to be renewed when used up?". There you go. Simple.

    • @KororaPenguin
      @KororaPenguin ปีที่แล้ว

      "Oh, my my my!" -- Mr. Moochick from My Little Pony Generation 1, voiced by Tony Randall.

  • @karenmallonee3867
    @karenmallonee3867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh how I wish we could hear what is being said when the contestants are greeting the panel!

  • @TheIgnatzz
    @TheIgnatzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In the Marx Brothers first major Vaudeville Show, "Fun in Hi Skule," Groucho played a German teacher. In fact, he played a comic German for most of his vaudeville career. He probably enjoyed pulling out his old German accent.

  • @MrJoeybabe25
    @MrJoeybabe25 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Dorothy broaches the subject of religious instruction (as opposed to comparative religious history) wouldn't be allowed in the schools now. This comes from the Madalyn Murray O'Hair court case from the early 1960's.
    Murray filed a lawsuit against the Baltimore City Public School System in 1960, in which she asserted that it was unconstitutional for her son William to be required to participate in Bible readings at Baltimore public schools. In this litigation, she stated that her son's refusal to partake in the Bible readings had resulted in bullying being directed against him by classmates, and that administrators condoned it. After consolidation with Abington School District v. Schempp, the lawsuit reached the Supreme Court of the United States in 1963. The Court voted 8-1 in Schempp's favor, which effectively banned mandatory Bible verse recitation at public schools in the United States. Prayer in schools other than Bible-readings had already been ended in 1962 by the Court's ruling in Engel v. Vitale.
    However, as is the case with some Supreme Court decisions, it is one thing to have the court decide something and then enforce that decision as law. I can remember as late as 1968, in elementary school praying to Jesus before going to lunch. And this was public school!

    • @epaddon
      @epaddon 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Just to add to that, William J. Murray would later break with his mother and become a Christian ministry leader which he still is today (and he's openly repudiated how he felt his mother used him in that case). Not meaning to cause a debate, just a little point of information there.

    • @WhatsMyLine
      @WhatsMyLine  10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      epaddon These comments are totally fine with me. Don't worry about a religious debate starting-- if I see anything like that, I'll end it quickly!

    • @MrJoeybabe25
      @MrJoeybabe25 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What's My Line? Don't worry about me, Gary. I get plenty here in Israel. This is a respite for me.

    • @WhatsMyLine
      @WhatsMyLine  10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Joe Postove I can only imagine. But that's exactly why I refuse to allow religious or political debates on these videos, because I believe we all need to have some place to go for a respite. And if a 60 year television game show can't be safe from controversy, what in the world is?

    • @MrJoeybabe25
      @MrJoeybabe25 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What's My Line? "And if a 60 year television game show can't be safe from controversy, what in the world is?" Say...what about that Mississippi River?

  • @tuxguys
    @tuxguys 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man...
    Groucho...
    When I grow up, I want to be just like him.
    Addenda:
    Among other things, wasn't this show elegant? And so it was, every Sunday evening, for years.
    Remember "alternate sponsors?" I do... barely.
    The announcer, Johnny Olson, did the voice stuff for about 20 shows a week, everything from "Jackie Gleason" to "The Price is Right," right up until his death in 1985.
    (Don Pardo's only serious competition for the title, ANNOUNCING ICON.)

  • @TacomaPaul
    @TacomaPaul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Groucho Marx... and and Harpo Marx.
    He turns around... and stares at him !
    I peed in my bed at 12 years old. Damn funny. ;-)

  • @patrickryan1515
    @patrickryan1515 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For the fact he wouldn't stop talking, I'd have easily guessed Groucho,

  • @robertmelson2130
    @robertmelson2130 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don't understand something. Groucho's last appearance has netted well over 400k views by now. This appearance has less than 10k views? I understand that the 1959 show was a phenomenon and has garnered plenty of rewatches, but you'd think search results for Groucho would have made this one something more than 9k and change. Heck, Maurice Evans' mystery guest appearance from 1960 has 7k views!

  • @33maisie
    @33maisie 10 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love Groucho.

  • @joycejean-baptiste4355
    @joycejean-baptiste4355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Miss Pattie Thomas had on one of the beautiful wigs that they wore back then. My older sisters had an assortment of wigs styles . One was like the one Diana Ross wore.

  • @ReynaHerichan7769
    @ReynaHerichan7769 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    WML, already joined the FB group months ago. Really interesting. Thank you so much.

  • @miketheyunggod2534
    @miketheyunggod2534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is the second best panel lineup on WML. Replace Tony Randall with Steve Allen and you have the best.

  • @bitscolumn
    @bitscolumn 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I took notice when Bennett and John Charles Daly mentioned Minnesota; I am from Minnesota!

    • @kennethlatham3133
      @kennethlatham3133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, there you go! You had to know the universe wasn't going to keep it a secret from you forever!

  • @loissimmons6558
    @loissimmons6558 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Pattie Thomas is approximately 22 years old during this episode. But after this, there seems to be no information about her on the Internet.

    • @marnie0512
      @marnie0512 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do a search for Patricia Franklin Thomas. I wonder if this is the same woman.

    • @joeambrose3260
      @joeambrose3260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wonder why? Oh yeah,zzzzzzzzz-
      zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    • @bluecamus5162
      @bluecamus5162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marnie0512 I believe you're right, I believe it's her.

  • @landofstan246
    @landofstan246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You would think the smell of the cigar would have given his I.D. away

  • @xandervampire195
    @xandervampire195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It'd help if contestants would answer the questions correctly. That first guy saying "Yes" to "Is it useful" and "Is it anything that makes the animal feel better". The correct answer to both of those is no. It's not useful, it's a pointless gimmick and the animals certainly don't feel better. At best, they're indifferent to it. In fact, most pets hate that stuff. They only go along with it because their clueless owners force them to.
    I can't believe the presenter tried to justify that answer by referring to a hypothetical, anthropomorphic animal. Dogs, cats etc. aren't humans, they have their own likes and dislikes. Although, while we're on the subject, even if the animal was somehow imbued with the mind of a human as the presenter suggests, the answer would still be no. Nobody would feel better if someone randomly grabbed them and forcibly applied cosmetics to them. They'd knock the fucker out!

  • @charleshberman
    @charleshberman 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Groucho is hilarious here. Tony Randall seems genuinely confused by his patter and Arlene Francis sounds surprised it's him. I suspect Bennett Cerf may have been staying silent just to hear more.
    Any German-speakers have a sense of how good the "German" that Groucho and John Daly speak here is? Groucho seemed to have a habit of throwing in the occasional German phrase on "You Bet Your Life" as well. At one point John Daly switches to Russian and tells him "I don't understand."

    • @sabinebeyer9249
      @sabinebeyer9249 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know, a long time since you wrote this. Groucho's german is really good allmost without accent but J. Ch. Daly talks only a kind of "Danny Kaye german" one can't really understand a thing he's saying, except his russian, this is really good.

    • @WhatsMyLine
      @WhatsMyLine  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Groucho did speak a little bit of a German dialect, something called "Platsch-Deustch", I think? I may be getting the name completely wrong. It was a dialect spoken by lower income Jews in Germany in the 19th and early 20th century. I don't know if it still exists, but it was supposedly a mixture of Yiddish and German from what I remember reading about it.

    • @larchmontmark1
      @larchmontmark1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes -- "Platt," or "Plattdeutsch."

    • @kevinwachs5905
      @kevinwachs5905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As children the Marxes frequently spoke German at home. The Brothers' maternal grandparents lived with them and never learned English. The Brothers' parents both were native German speakers, even though the father's nickname was "Frenchy," a reference to his native Alsace.
      For the first ten years of his show business career, Groucho used a German accent for his comedy. He dropped the accent during World War I.

  • @ChristinaMitchell-USA
    @ChristinaMitchell-USA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am surprised Groucho's cigar smoke didn't give him away immediately.

    • @lopa2828
      @lopa2828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too. It did away in the case of Ernie Kovac.

  • @papagen00
    @papagen00 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:54 dang they wrote cursive so beautifully in those days.

    • @GH-oi2jf
      @GH-oi2jf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I expect the guests practiced before signing in on camera.

  • @soulierinvestments
    @soulierinvestments 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It is interesting to compare the way the panel responded to the female Reverend McGuire (identified as a minister) vs. this contestant (identified as evangelist traveling preacher).
    What is the matter with the panel? Groucho's vocal disguise is still so obviously Groucho that Arlene should have ended it at question 4.

    • @WhatsMyLine
      @WhatsMyLine  10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I'm among those who think that they knew who he was but were playing along because they didn't want to end the segment. It's impossible for me to believe they wouldn't have recognized his voice. I truly can't believe that not one of them picked up on that totally unique vocal timbre.
      They also had the additional clue of the smell of his cigar smoke when he entered.

    • @savethetpc6406
      @savethetpc6406 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What's My Line?
      I agree that it's hard to believe they didn't recognize either his voice, his antics, or his cigar smoke -- let alone all of them in combination! At the same time, they really do seem to be genuinely perplexed. So this perplexes me. It's a fun segment, anyway, and I like it better than his 1959 panel appearance. I am among those who found that he was just too disruptive for comfort in that show. (Sorry.)

    • @savethetpc6406
      @savethetpc6406 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What's My Line?
      Hmm.... I'm guessing that this belated + from you means that I adequately identified my reaction as opinion?

    • @WhatsMyLine
      @WhatsMyLine  10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      SaveThe TPC No. :) What happens is that sometimes, when I get a notification due to a new comment on a thread or a +1 on one of *my* comments, I reread the whole thread. Sometimes, as I think you know, +1's just disappear, so I try to add them again. Sometimes, I was too busy to really read the comments and absorb them. Sometimes I'm so busy I only read the notification, which cuts off at the first two lines.
      I really am drowning in comments lately-- I've already spent well over two hours just catching up on the comments for the last 24 hours-- and 2-3 hours later there's a whole bunch more!!!

    • @savethetpc6406
      @savethetpc6406 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What's My Line?
      Gotcha. I really thought that all the discussion about Groucho made you want to watch his MG segment again and that you happened to notice that aspect of my comment and so gave it a +, even though you disagreed with me about the disruptiveness. (I guess I have an active imagination. :) )
      But now I'm feeling guilty about posting comments, because they're keeping you too busy!

  • @TheCarnivalguy
    @TheCarnivalguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dog cosmetics: they had ridiculous products back then also.

  • @neilphelan145
    @neilphelan145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Groucho had a sharp with that stood light years above anyone!

  • @paulh2981
    @paulh2981 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People in the 60s were putting mascara on their dogs' eyes? I assume this was an extremely niche product as most people of that era would find that as absurd as people today.

  • @VahanNisanian
    @VahanNisanian 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hilarious Groucho appearance!

  • @chaplainmattsanders4884
    @chaplainmattsanders4884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    19:05 “mr. & Mrs. John Smith.” 😂 😂

  • @debbigray1752
    @debbigray1752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "This was a wasted evening." Hilarious!

  • @joycejean-baptiste4355
    @joycejean-baptiste4355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Miss Thomas looks a little like Gigett. Lol!

  • @michellepost5232
    @michellepost5232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You'd think the panel members would have smelled that cigar. Many stars smoked back then, but he was being goofy, besides.

  • @brandonflorida1092
    @brandonflorida1092 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Groucho couldn't obey enough of the rules when he was a panelist to allow the show to move forward, and he can't obey them as a mystery guest. He didn't answer any question he was asked. No other comic has ever simply refused to cooperate.

    • @donnacook8994
      @donnacook8994 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what made him so adored! He never missed an opportunity to make a joke, and he was always ready! ❤️❤️❤️🤣

    • @brandonflorida1092
      @brandonflorida1092 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donnacook8994 I think he just wrecked the show whenever he was on.

    • @richardrice8076
      @richardrice8076 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@brandonflorida1092I'm sorry you don't appreciate Groucho's ad lib ability. IMO he didn't wreck the show he made the 3 shows he was on ('59, 64 & 67) better.

    • @brandonflorida1092
      @brandonflorida1092 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@richardrice8076 I do appreciate it, but this is a game show. No other comic who was ever on just couldn't cooperate with the show moving forward.

  • @aliced7505
    @aliced7505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sometimes, like now, I get creeped out watching Dorothy enter - knowing she'd be murdered in 2 years. What an awful shame.

    • @rosinenielsen7091
      @rosinenielsen7091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes it makes me really sad knowing her time is running out because you start to feel like you know and love the panel and John and what hurts them is distressing to you also.
      I love Dorothy.

  • @fairlyvague82
    @fairlyvague82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Groucho Marx would drive me to drink lol he never shuts up!

  • @kali8188
    @kali8188 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mr. and Mrs. John Smith?! Oy....
    Groucho was unique, although we have to admit the Italian accent wasn't bad. [I think it was Italian.] :-)

  • @kristabrewer9363
    @kristabrewer9363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, THAT was uncalled for. Bennet asked the Evangelist if there were people in the school that were pleased by what she does. Obviously we all knew what he meant, and John was like, "MR.CERF! I'm REALLY!" as if he was saying something dirty.

  • @marknelson9069
    @marknelson9069 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did they not smell the cigar smoke?

  • @adrianvirgilio2099
    @adrianvirgilio2099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And 1 month later kennedy was killed

  • @karengummer6657
    @karengummer6657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't imagine they didn't smell the cigar and figure out Groucho nearly immediately.

  • @bitscolumn
    @bitscolumn 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Groucho wanted to be a writer more than anything!

    • @rharvey2124
      @rharvey2124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He wrote several books - one was Memoirs of a Mangy Lover.

  • @maxnullifidian
    @maxnullifidian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Groucho's not trying very hard to disguise his voice in this one!

  • @weatherboi
    @weatherboi 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sounds like Mr. Daly gave it away who the mystry celebrity is for this episode.

  • @bitscolumn
    @bitscolumn 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for posting this complete episode.

  • @Maazzzo
    @Maazzzo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful, thank you very much for posting this.

  • @suzieq5259
    @suzieq5259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They couldn't smell his cigar?

  • @MrJoeybabe25
    @MrJoeybabe25 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Here's another example of language changes. When the dog cosmetics seller is on and Dorothy asks if anyone on the panel could use this product, John says "he could think of someone on the panel that could use the product", not for a second thinking Dorothy (as in dog) but Bennett whom it could improve. "Dog" referring to a woman's looks I think may have been a part of teenage lingo at the time, but I wonder if John (or the audience who titters only slightly) even would know that?

    • @loissimmons6558
      @loissimmons6558 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Joe Postove
      I remember "dog" being used in this manner when I was growing up during this period. According to thesaurus.com, using "dog" in this manner dates back to the 1930's. This connection has always puzzled me as I consider most dogs to be quite pleasing to the eye. Alas, that doesn't take any of the sting out of the insult.

  • @lennon1252
    @lennon1252 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Grouchos last words: The nurse said "I'm sorry, but you are dying" Groucho said, "Why my dear, that's the last thing I'll do!"😂

  • @Eddie_Schantz
    @Eddie_Schantz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To me, one of the stupidest questions they ask is " Is this a useful product?". Yes, it is always a useful product for someoneor they wouldn't make it. Maybe I am missing something here, but I think they are wasting time asking that.

    • @mendaliv
      @mendaliv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eddie Schantz: In the terms of reference they use on the show, I believe they would think of a “non-useful” product as one that is not used, such as one that is admired and has no practical utility. But even that is a difficult distinction, and I can’t remember a specific instance when someone has described their product as not being useful. It may also be a way of stalling so there’s no dead air when you’re thinking of a legitimate question.

    • @preppysocks209
      @preppysocks209 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mendaliv once in a great while, the product is purely decorative. But the question rarely advances the game.

    • @joeambrose3260
      @joeambrose3260 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just wasted 69 seconds reading these useless comments

  • @frederalbacon
    @frederalbacon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    20:27 poor John. He's so lost with what to do with that question, lol.

  • @soulierinvestments
    @soulierinvestments 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Why can't dogs use the same products we do?"
    Well, for a start, it would be trans-creature, cross-species merchandising-marketing and that would be wrong. It gives me the creeps just contemplating it

    • @WhatsMyLine
      @WhatsMyLine  10 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Just the idea of dogs wearing makeup at all gives me the creeps.

  • @adamodeo9320
    @adamodeo9320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    love the woman preacher - put prayer back in schools!

  • @lennypearl
    @lennypearl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder why no one could smell the cigar. Wouldn't that have been a clue to who the mystery guest was?

  • @brianrose528
    @brianrose528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It like watching for the first time even though I went through those years

  • @morlokkurak4763
    @morlokkurak4763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When this episode was broadcast, I was 2 days old. 😲🙂

    • @postatility9703
      @postatility9703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But Groucho was so funny,you still remember the show-even at two days of age!

  • @133col
    @133col 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    20:20 what is Daly saying? I want to make sure I heard that right lol

  • @MrJoeybabe25
    @MrJoeybabe25 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Groucho's voice could not be very well disguised. I think the Panel had a good idea almost immediately.

  • @KororaPenguin
    @KororaPenguin ปีที่แล้ว

    16:44 -- This will be long after you pass on, Ms. Kilgallen, but a similar service will one day help a particularly horrid serial killer named Jeffrey Dahmer abandon his evil ways.

  • @cheowteetan3762
    @cheowteetan3762 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    21:03 funny part

  • @michellepost5232
    @michellepost5232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tony Randall makes this show tons better. I liked him in Odd Couple sitcom. This show drains my android battery because it seems to drag along. Takes too long for the panel to guess the job.

  • @donholmes3267
    @donholmes3267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah Seattle and Salmon !

  • @masonldn8647
    @masonldn8647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They knew it was Graucho within the first minutes to be honest

  • @stevenfanale4553
    @stevenfanale4553 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great show period.Steven M.Fanale

  • @GH-oi2jf
    @GH-oi2jf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was not Groucho's best moment.

  • @rctodd3
    @rctodd3 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you have all of the"What's My Line" episodes from the CBS DAYS?

    • @WhatsMyLine
      @WhatsMyLine  10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      VERY close. I'm still missing one show, 1/6/63 with Bert Lahr. I have a clip of the mystery guest segment, but that's all. From this clip, I can tell that it was recorded off GSN just like virtually all of the rest of the shows, so I'm surprised the full show has been so elusive considering the number of serious collectors who have pitched in. Nobody I've found has this one.

    • @epaddon
      @epaddon 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What's My Line? And silly me, because I *had* it and lost it when I threw out the wrong tape after transferring several to DVD a couple years ago.

    • @WhatsMyLine
      @WhatsMyLine  10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      epaddon We'll find it! I'm confident someone is going to come through, especially now that we have the FB community going. I'm already waiting for responses from two folks who are checking on whether they have a copy of that one.

    • @charleshberman
      @charleshberman 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What's My Line? I might have that buried somewhere on VHS at my parents' house. Next time I'm down there I will look for it.

    • @WhatsMyLine
      @WhatsMyLine  10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      charleshberman Please do. . . it will drive me a little batty to be missing just one of the 750+ available programs!

  • @BeautifuLakesStreamsBiologists
    @BeautifuLakesStreamsBiologists 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who didn't know the minute they caught a wiff of the cigar? lol

    • @slaytonp
      @slaytonp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There was lots of smoke in the air all the time. It was not banned in the studio, and John and the regular panel all smoked. A whiff of a cigar wouldn't have necessarily been a clue.

  • @VahanNisanian
    @VahanNisanian 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tony's hair had grown quite a bit from the month before he was on.

    • @joeambrose3260
      @joeambrose3260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Your comment is nearly as exciting as watching hair grow

    • @Noone58319
      @Noone58319 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was noticing the same thing.

  • @iamintheburg9820
    @iamintheburg9820 ปีที่แล้ว

    How could they NOT KNOW???! Saying, " They call me Rider Haggard." Absolutely hysterical.

  • @jugglergirl20km
    @jugglergirl20km ปีที่แล้ว

    What does Daly say in German?

  • @Sincopare
    @Sincopare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "This was a wasted evening"

  • @booberry349
    @booberry349 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brought to you by King’s King’s cereals the best to you each morning by King’s of Battle Creek

  • @VahanNisanian
    @VahanNisanian 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Did Dorothy really wear wigs?
    I think she might have. At least in her later appearances on this show.

    • @SuperWinterborn
      @SuperWinterborn 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ***** I don't know of her wearing wigs in later shows, but in this particular one, I'm sure she had a dead chicken on her head...

    • @Steff2929again
      @Steff2929again 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wigs were perfectly normal fashion accessories at this time. It didn't have to look natural at all, as long as it gave the right look.

    • @Enthrox
      @Enthrox 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It doesn't seem to me that she has one in this episode.

    • @WhatsMyLine
      @WhatsMyLine  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Corleone You really don't think so? I think if that were her real hair, it would have been long enough to reach the floor if it were let down completely. :) [EDIT: actually, I was thinking of a different show entirely-- my apologies. She doesn't look like she 's necessarily wearing a wig here!]

    • @SuperWinterborn
      @SuperWinterborn 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Corleone I don't think she had one in this show either. But that feathered "thing"...!

  • @jackseward7779
    @jackseward7779 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG: what a ham for a Mystery Guest. Someone ought to have told him that the goal is to fool the panel by speaking as little as possible!

  • @rennaehanson9996
    @rennaehanson9996 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish what's my lion was still on TV this is such a great show

    • @hazelanderson1479
      @hazelanderson1479 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What’s My Lion is an interesting suggestion. Would the lion eat the guests who didn’t manage to stump the panel? I’d pay good money to watch that!

    • @patrickryan1515
      @patrickryan1515 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hazelanderson1479 Or what's your lion doing on TV in the first place?

    • @KororaPenguin
      @KororaPenguin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Checking the date, this was after the Chronicles of Narnia were completed, and the second contestant did technically work for Aslan.

    • @witherblaze
      @witherblaze ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@hazelanderson1479it's the roman empire version

  • @forrestfootball
    @forrestfootball ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone speak German and can translate what John said to Groucho? Very impressive

  • @fanorama1
    @fanorama1 ปีที่แล้ว

    They must've been able to smell his cigar.

  • @bencheshire
    @bencheshire ปีที่แล้ว

    Just listening to the dog perfume, man Dorothy was so smart. Sad she passed soon

  • @briandressel1344
    @briandressel1344 ปีที่แล้ว

    That voice is a dead giveaway