In my opinion John Daly is the greatest game show host in the history of television. This not to take anything away from the recent passing of Alex Trebeck but his game show was ultra formatted whereas Whsts My Line was always changing even in the half hour ot was on.
@@allenjones3130 Totally* Agree. The Only Liberty and Variance I would take is to A.) Expand Upon that and Add Talk Shows into the equation and B.) Add Jonny Carson as the one (and only other) Place Setting at that Special Table.
17 years on the air! And Arlene Francis is an absolute joy, not to take away from Dorothy and Bennett. And I LOVE Tony. But she seemed a little tipsy tonight. I loved her demeanor. Anyone else notice?
The big difference was there was no game per se. WML was a panel show. And John Daly was the master host. He was the judge, the referee, the moderator and talk show host. All in one.
Arlene Francis is incredible: smart as a whip, hilarious, beautiful and always a class act. And she has this amazing smile, this amazing quality to her voice...
@@williamdunphy352 I read once that Allen Funt would have all the secretaries who worked for the show answer the phone saying "Smile your on Candid Camera. On the day JFK was assassinated one of the secretaries would not answer the phone with the cheerful greeting and Funt became outraged at her and also fired her.
Not too long ago (as it is now August of 2024), I read something about Allen Funt that said he was not a very pleasant man to deal with. I wonder how much truth there was in that reference? I do know that watching him on television years ago-- on a black-and-white television set, that he seemed a very cordial and pleasant man to watch on the screen with his program "Candid Camera."
I had a very fun experience of meeting Mr. Funt around 1985. I was then working for a "major" airline, and Mr. Funt wanted to use an "up-grade certificate," which he had, from "coach" to "first class." To make it short, "coach" was sold out - and "first class" was open. Well okay so far - the problem was that my company would not allow for "up-grades" if "coach" was fully booked. Mr. Funt (quite rightly) questioned this - reasoning that he was not intending to be in the coach class anyway - just looking for a seat "up front," which was available. I was embarrassed to have to defend this stupid policy, and Mr. Funt sensed that I knew he was correct, and my company wrong - suddenly we both realized the absurdity of it all and had a big laugh. He was such a good sport about it - I never forgot his good natured acceptance. P.S. After a year, or so, I left those "friendly skies" and found work more to my liking. Thanks Mr. Funt!
The bell foundry is still a working foundry but this guest Paul Taylor was the last of the Taylor family to own it/work there. After two hundred years he was the last of them.
So many businesses in Great Britain shut their doors during the 60's. Socialism at its worse. Margaret Thatcher said that this experiment would fail once those who could pay went out of business. A lesson the US should learn before it's too late
“A bell-like tone!” .. they had so much fun on WML.. TV was so much better back then.. Arlene was in rare form that night! .. I wasn’t born until 1958 but I vaguely remember it being on TV during the 60s. R.I.P. WML panel and John Charles Daly moderator
I think that Arlene had possibly had one over the eight and the reactions of fellow panellists and Mr Daly suggest amusement at the unusual situation. Nevertheless, as always, she is the complete professional and a joy. She could also, of course, have been totally exhausted and relying on her "show must go on" ethics to get her through the half hour. Her work schedules must have been totally draining.
I happened upon Arlene and her husband in a New York restaurant back in the day. She was a lovely lady, friendly and joking around with us. She had her diamond heart necklace on too. Great memory.
Met Allen Funt in early 80s at a tiny tavern. Had no idea where he was. He filmed a dry cleaners (near Stadium High School in Tacoma), and he asked, "Where is my hotel" ? (The Sheraton). So I drove him down there. He gave me $100 dollar bill ! ;-)
I really enjoyed this episode. The 2 regular guests added humor to the show as the panel tried to guest them. I also enjoyed how the mystery guest stumped the panel, which rarely happens.
Around 1968 or 1969 Funt did a Candid Camera -type movie called "What Do You Say to a Naked Lady?" A naked woman would walk up to people on the street and ask directions, or be in an elevator with other people. It was rather bizarre. As far as entertainment goes, the TV show was much better and funnier. Unfortunately, it was on Sundays at 9:30, and when it was over I had to go to bed, and I'd think, "I have to go to school tomorrow." I still have that sinking feeling when I see recordings of Alan Funt.
***** Yes, he was quite quick with words that English fellow, and of course he understood the meaning...or? ;) (In British English a breadbox is called a "breadpan")
I was born and raised in the U.S. and I've never seen a breadbox either in my entire 66+ years. The only time I have ever heard it referred to was on WML.
This was filmed in New York, and they STILL said "roh-day-oh" instead of "roh-dee-oh." I thought that was just a California peculiarity. :-) (I'm a lifelong Midwesterner; we ALWAYS say "roh-dee-oh.")
How does Bennett mispronounce so many common words? This time it's Los Angeles. Re: rodeo. In California it's ro-day-o...as in Rodeo Drive. He comes off as very provincial. Surprising since he travels so much.
Allen Funt was intelligent enough to graduate high school at age 15. Too young to leave home to go to college, at first he went locally to Pratt Institute in the Fort Greene section of Brooklyn. When he was old enough, he left Brooklyn for Ithaca, NY and Cornell University where he received a BFA. I am also a Cornell alum and when I attended there in the early 1970's, I became close friends with one of the trainers for their athletic teams. He was a native of Ithaca and one of the stories he told me was about Allen Funt. It was the depression and Funt was practically penniless. The only way he was able to remain at Cornell was that a local family took him in and provided his room & board and sundry needs.
Lois Simmons ... They couldn’t go to college at 15 back then? Things have changed since then. While still in high school, my grandson went to college, too, last year at age 16. Just for one course to see if he could handle it. He did great!
@@dianefiske-foy4717 I didn't say he was too young to go to college. I said he was considered too young to go AWAY to college. Pratt Institute where he first went after HS is a college. Once he had some successful college experience locally and a little more maturity, he transferred to Cornell in upstate NY and a good distance from Brooklyn, especially in the days before super highways. In fact he might have taken the train. It was possible in the 1930's.
Lois Simmons ... Oh, okay. Got it now. I live in Alabama, but I’m from N.Y., though the far western part. Lucille Ball’s hometown. I’ve heard of all of the places you mentioned, but I’ve never been to any of them. I did go to Grand Central Station while in the Army and took a cab to go to the bus station to go home for Christmas. I loved watching “Candid Camera” though. Funny show!!!
@@dianefiske-foy4717 I am familiar with the hometown of Lucille Ball (also the home of the Goodell family, Natalie Merchant and Irv Noren (major league athlete in two sports). I've been to western NY a few times and near that city, but never actually in that city. If your only experience with NYC is to take a cab from Grand Central to the Port Authority Bus Terminal, you didn't get to see much of NYC except for Times Square and a lot of horrible crosstown traffic in midtown Manhattan (unless you were there in the wee hours of the morning).
Lois Simmons ... Yeah, I think Jamestown is one city that a lot of people, at least Lucy fans, would know of. Last time I was there, they were trying to make it a Lucille Ball ... Oh, I forgot what it’s called ... town. Dang, I hate getting older and losing memory, eyesight, etc. Anyways, I’ve heard of Natalie Merchant, but not the other people you mentioned. I do know that several musicians came from the area. As for NYC, it was the middle of the day when I, and a bunch of other Women’s Army Corp soldiers were there, and it was Christmastime in 1976. I don’t know if that would have been what made it so crazy there, but the place was. When we tried to get a cab, these guys came up to us and said they would get us a cab. They did, but the tried to charge us $5 a piece for doing so, and they had nothing to do with the cabs (our cab driver told us that and told us not to pay. We decided to pay a little for their trouble.). I loved Grand Central Station though! Thought it was cool!
thanx for posting this entire episode -- the most controversial of 1963. Despite that great introduction of Tony -- it becomes evident from her third question of contestant one that Arlene is . . . . well -- flushed. Snoot-full even.
I thought she was just in a real good mood. Are there written accounts of Arlene being snookered that evening. I know that she had a very loose style, but she was an old pro, and I am shocked, shocked, that she would go on the air tight!
I suspected as much... Arlene could be silly, but blowing a raspberry on air was a little much even for her! :-) Not that I minded, it was fun to watch.
Reluctant Dragon I was half asleep while watching much of this episode. Clearly, I'll have to watch it again when I'm more fully conscious! I missed Arlene's tipsiness entirely.
speech noticeably deliberate, lacking 1-liners, slightly slurred--some would call that imbibed but regardless on several other episodes she was w/o a doubt under the influence
I'd say she wasn't drunk here at all. Nevertheless I have seen her drunk on another episode, most definitely. I know these things. I've been drunk myself many many times.
The one thing that inevitably strikes me when watching these older broadcasts is not just how nicely everyone spoke, dressed, carried themselves, etc., but for the most part how trim everyone was. I grew up in the 60s and 70s and I know we ate three meals a day and rarely snacked. There was no soda pop in our house; the staples for drink were water, orange juice, milk, and coffee and tea once you turned sixteen. Overall, I just have to believe the food was better, better prepared certainly, because my mom who was still what was once called a housewife was an excellent cook, always effortlessly whipping up new and tasty concoctions that must have been healthy for us because we had only the usual illnesses and were overall pretty happy and adjusted. I know we didn't sit around playing with the electronic nonsense we didn't have, we walked many places, or biked, until we learned to drive cars, and in general, getting back to my original point, it sure doesn't look that kind of lifestyle affected people adversely. People were nicer looking back then, unquestionably, and I'll bet happier, too.
It is true that Americans have become more obese since the 1960s. It is also true that many more Americans smoked tobacco in the 1960s and depended on it to keep their figures.
SMH. Thank goodness we have the sense to not dress up for something that has no real use in life. I love watching these old shows, long before I was born. But I am extremely grateful that I didn't have to go through all the rigmarole that accompanied such pomp and circumstance. Why anyone would want to put themselves through such self-torture is beyond my abilities to reason.
@Sandra Jones To each their own. It was what it was. Thank goodness I don't have to dress up more than two or three times a year. And even then, I hate it.
@Sandra Jones There is a difference between dressing respectively and wearing a tuxedo or evening gown or whatever. I have turned down many events because I knew that I would be "dressed down" because I have no need for such. In those cases, there was little need for the event. I can't imagine dressing up to go to the zoo. Yet, I recall hearing that women who attended the opening of Disney Land had their high heels sink into the tar that had softened due to the hot weather. Sorry, but not sorry. Comfort is much more important than conformity.
Game two illustrates that WML could be both amusing and educational with a contestant of substance. And I remember Funt's Sunday night program and thought "Candid Camera" was educational as well. Allan Funt once observed that you can divide the world into two camps: "those who see everything and those who see nothing." As a result, he did not have to do much in the way of hiding his cameras.
Any other Dorothy L. Sayers fans here? I just re-read "The Nine Tailors" recently, and when Paul Taylor signed in, I was thinking of the book even before church bells were mentioned. One of the bells in the book is named Tailor Paul, and one of the conspirators uses Paul Taylor as an alias for correspondence.
Only female kangaroos have pouches, but that rule is sometimes broken for people. In 1983, I worked for a month in a research laboratory at the Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research in Melbourne, Australia. Everyone wore a one-size-fits-all lab coat with a large pouch in the front. It was held in place by tying it in the back, and I think it also had a loop that went over your head. While I was in Australia, I also visited Flinders University in Adelaide. They used the same kind.of lab coats that I used in the U.S., with buttons in front and pockets on either side.
"Bing bing bing bing!" I crack up every time. It would have been tiresome if Arlene was always drunk or high on the program, but she certainly is fun here. Tony was obviously uncomfortable by it all.
14:06 'If it hasn't got strings, can you blow on it?' *everybody bursts into laughter* then Arlene gives her cute smile 😂 they still had dirty minds back then, but they knew how to have a sense of class about things. I love this episode, Arlene was hilarious when she was tipsy 🤣
Yes Arlene was definitely having a great time on the panel that night. She was as lit as the nose of Rudolph the reindeer. But it was fun to watch her feeling so happy, nonetheless,
Did anyone other than I catch John's riposte "Sonny Tufts!" when someone on the panel shouted "Kangaroo?" Fell out of my chair. PS: Arlene is so cute when she's a tad loaded, which she was this time around. Even stoned she managed to, more-or-less, guess two of the occupations. WML, almost always, comes off like a veddy veddy hip cocktail party.
I think the reference was to Kermit Schafer’s urban legend, later recounted by Leonard Maltin, of the surprise and outrage expressed by Joseph Cotton on-air while reading the intro for the actor, Tufts, replacing him on a radio show the following week. Tufts was not considered a top actor, only getting a Hollywood break due to the other actors serving in the Forces, and his personal life was rather scandalous. No evidence exists however that Cotton actually shouted “Sonny Tufts?!!” on-air, but the story was assumed to be true during the 60s. Snopes, among others during the internet age, debunks it.
I thought it was cute that Arlene, like probably most Americans, assumed that the "wraparound" portions of Candid Camera where they introduce and comment on the filmed "stunts" were live. I thought it had that live look myself, but read some years ago, that once in the 10pm slot that they taped those segments. Arlene was being coy about the six weeks they took off in the summer, and used pre-taped shows. It's as if it wasn't live it would destroy an illusion of spontaneity, and I suppose that is a point that should be taken. But, I think today, people understand that many shows "like The Tonight Show and Letterman" are taped, but retain their spontaneity because they are almost never edited. Or do viewers even think about it?
23:47 Bennett- "John how does it feel to have the 2nd best head of hair among the males on the show?" John- " Tony's 1st, I'm 2nd, where does that leave you? Bennett set himself up for that one. lol
Concerning the first contestant: What a looker! Woo woo! I used to live in Long Beach and worked (briefly) as a schoolteacher in Mrs. Levisohn's hometown of Lakewood--albeit a generation later than this episode. I wonder if we ever crossed paths.
"All I can say is we are lucky they have not thrown the switch." He means the censor button for live TV gone b-a-aa-d. Yeah -- what with Arlene's delicate condition and embarrassing observations about the netherparts of Kangaroos. Her gassious impersonation of a bagpipe must have made the CBS censor bite through the stem of his pipe. It was 5 months since Arlene nearly died from that Long Island expressway auto accident. I speculate if she still had a pain problem at this point. Entirely possible. Self medicating with alcohol? Pain medication side effect reaction? Pain medication - alcohol combination? Still, you gotta admire Arlene. Even with her sheets to the wind, she is in the second contestant spot amusing, witty, and she solves it. And she solves the mystery guest, too. 2. You go *hic* girl.
soulierinvestments ... Arlene didn’t really solve the mystery guest, until the last question was asked and got a “No” and Allen spoke in his own voice. But she sure was hilarious on this episode 😂🤣😂🤣🥰‼️
Perhaps I missed the post here that enlightened the story behind Arlene's 'under the influence' behavior in September, 1963. I did my best to scan 6 years of comments because i m certain someone knew the answer. I'm not revealing anything but suggest you join the WML group on Facebook. It's a marvelous place where sophisticated, stylish and clever people figure out these things. Not interested? You can find some clues by reading Arlene's long-out-of-print memoirs. (if you can find a copy that is).
Dorothy gets a kick out of her 'Highness' Arlene asking questions. Arlene either had some bubbly or something stronger before the show. Even her hand gestures are different.
The Palucci estate was settled after years of fighting 2019 in and out of the courts. Shame that this man who started a hugely lucritave business/es ended up after his 2011 death having his three children fight in and out of courts for 9 years dwindling the estate by legal fees. Sad how money tears some families apart.
There has been some discussion on past shows about contestants that don't know what the rules of the game are. I thought it interesting that with the 2nd contestant when he was asked whether he knew how the game kept score he replied "Yes, I've been told". I don't know if it was something new that someone associated with the show started informing contestants how the game was scored or not. If it was, you wonder why John would even ask the question. This has always been a bit of a mystery.
I wonder if it was because of the game show scams that had been going on...Mr. Daly wanted it known to all what the rules were and it was done in front of a crowd of witnesses.
Candid Camera qualifies as a reality show. No other shows of that genre come to mind in that era. The rarity of the genre makes it much more difficult for Arlene to think of it, even with the show preceding WML in the CBS lineup. In fact, there may not have been a name for this type of program in 1963.
Bennett mentions that the Los Angeles Dodgers had a bad day on 9/15/63. Not only did they lose to the Philies 6-1 at Connie Mack Stadium in Philadelphia but the second place St. Louis Cardinals swept the Milwaukee Braves in a double header at home. That pulled the Cards to within one game of the Dodgers in the standings with two weeks to play. The Dodgers had blown a comfortable lead in the 1962 pennant race and it looked like they were about to do it again. Although the Dodgers had a 5-2 record that week, St. Louis had won ten in a row to pull close. And the Dodgers would be coming to St. Louis for a three game series on Monday 9/16 to Wednesday 9/18. The regular members of WML never seemed to be partial to the Dodgers when they were still in NYC and Bennett can barely contain his glee over what looks like another choke by them. His glee was premature. Oddly, the Dodgers lost every Sunday in September when WML was live. Other than that, they played outstanding baseball until they clinched the pennant. They went into St. Louis determined to prove they were the better team. They did. On Monday night at the original Busch Stadium, Johnny Podres got the starting pitcher assignment from Manager Walt Alston. The lefty from Witherbee, NY was usually able to raise his game a couple of notches when the stakes were high and he didn't disappoint. He and 18-game winner Ernie Broglio battled through 8 innings of a 1-1 game. The Dodgers struck first in the 6th inning on a double by Maury Wills, a stolen base and a single by NL batting champ Tommy Davis. The Cards tied the score on a 7th inning homer by the great Stan "The Man" Musial. The Cards batted for Broglio in the 8th and brought in veteran Bobby Shantz in the 9th. Ron Fairly immediately connected for a double and then with one out Willie Davis singled him home. A walk to Ken McMullen and an error by Julian Javier allowing the fleet Dodger center fielder to score from second gave the Dodgers and insurance run. Ron Perranoski in the midst of his best season nailed down the victory with a 1-2-3 inning. The next night, the Dodgers sent Sandy Koufax to the mound. He had already won 23 games en route to winning the Cy Young Award and NL MVP award. The way he was pitching, he often only needed one run to win. He got it in the first inning in typical Dodger fashion for that era: a single by Wills, a stolen base, a wild pitch by Cardinals starter Curt Simmons and a double by Jim Gilliam. The score stayed 1-0 until the 8th when big Frank Howard hit a 2-run homer onto the stadium roof. Koufax only struck out 4 that night, but he only surrendered four singles, walked none and cruised to a 4-0 win. On Wednesday, the sweep was completed with a game that will live long in Dodger lore. Young Pete Richert got the start for the Dodgers, coming off his best game of the season, his first complete game of the season four days earlier. The Cardinals scored four runs off of him and another off of Bob Miller to take a 5-1 lead after 3 innings. Bob Gibson was pitching for St. Louis and he was just coming into his own. He and Broglio tied for the team lead in wins. Going into the 8th inning, the score was still 5-1 as Miller had pitched four shutout innings after giving up a run in the 3rd. Trailing by 4 runs and with the pitcher leading off the 8th inning, Alston sent up Dick Nen to bat for Miller. It was Nen's major league debut, but he managed to hit the ball hard against Gibson. However center fielder Curt Flood caught it for the first out. But that hard hit ball signaled a sea change in the game. Gibson didn't retire another batter. Singles by Wills and Gilliam, followed by a walk to Wally Moon loaded the bases. A single by Tommy Davis plated two runs and chased Gibson to the showers. Cards manager Johnny Keane called upon Shantz once again to face Fairly. This time Alston chose to send up Howard to bat for Fairly. A wild pitch en route to a walk loaded the bases. Willie Davis's fly to Flood was deep enough to score Moon and the Dodgers were within one run. Now Alston sent up Bill Skowron to bat for Johnny Roseboro, so Keane countered with Ron Taylor to relieve Shantz. Skowron grounded out to end the inning. Now Alston had to bring in a new catcher, a new pitcher and a new first baseman. The catcher was Doug Camilli. On the mound, Alston went to his ace reliever, Perranoski. But what about first base? Skowron played first but he made the last out of the inning. He decided to have Perranoski bat in Skowron's spot and keep the rookie Nen in the game. It was a fateful, inspired decision. Perranoski retired the Cardinals in order in the 8th. With one out in the 9th Nen came to the plate for his second major league at bat. He promptly homered onto the roof to tie the game. It would be his only hit for the Dodgers, although he would go on to play for the Senators and Cubs in his otherwise uneventful career. (His other claim to fame is being the father of future star relief pitcher Robb Nen.) Perranoski was brilliant, pitching 6 shutout innings. The Dodgers finally pushed across a run in the 13th inning to win the game. They left St. Louis leading by 4 games with 8 to play. They were in the process of winning 10 out of 12 games (their only losses coming on Sunday.) Meanwhile the Cardinals lost their next 3 games as well. The Dodgers were shutout the following Sunday (9/22) but St. Louis lost in Cincinnati, enabling the Dodgers to clinch a tie for the NL pennant with a week to go. After an off day on Monday, the Cardinals lost on Tuesday afternoon at Wrigley Field to the Cubs to give the Dodgers the pennant. (They beat the Mets that night anyway.) Meanwhile the Yankees had already clinched the American League pennant by shutting out the Twins in Minnesota on Friday September 13. They eliminated both the Twins and the White Sox that day with the victory as those teams were tied for second at the end of play that day, 14 games behind with 13 to play. (The White Sox won in Washington, but it was to no avail.) Yankee fans were optimistic going into the World Series, looking for their third straight championship under manager Ralph Houk in his first three seasons. But there would be no joy on the night of Sunday, October 6. The Dodgers finally won on Sunday for the first time in over a month, completing a four game sweep of the Yanks, the first time they were swept in a World Series. The Dodgers needed just four pitchers to dominate Yankee batters with Koufax coming back to his hometown to win Game One at Yankee Stadium, 5-2, backed by Roseboro's 3-run homer and setting a new World Series record with 15 strikeouts. Podres returned to the site of his 1955 World Series clinching triumph to win 4-1 with 9th inning help from Perranoski. Switching to L.A. for Game Three on October 5, Don Drysdale shutout the Yankees 1-0, and then Koufax came back in Game Four with a 2-1 victory, 12 more strikeouts and the World Series MVP to go along with his other awards that year. It was the Dodger fans turn to smile. It was the start of a downward slide for the Yankees that lasted over a decade.
This was the beginning of the end of the Yankee dynasty. They were beaten in 7 in '64 by the Cards. They had rested on their laurels and failed to sign black players in the late '50's. 1964 by David Halberstam tells the story. A little off topic but Bennett Cerf would love the historical diversion.
They use their front legs as well as their back legs to walk. What else would you call the two in front? Not arms. I'm Australian and never heard them called two legged. Going to go and google now lol.
This must have been prerecorded because Mr Funt’s birthday was Sept 15th and it seems like he or Daly would have mentioned it. At 48 here Funt looked much like he did for many years to come.
I don't understand why Arlene would have to allude to the show sometimes being taped. Did taped episodes not come with a, "This has been a videotaped production" type notice?
Unfortunately no screen credit was given to Marilyn Levisohn. Someone who had a credited appearance was a young Sharon Tate who played Mr. Drysdale's secretary. She appeared 15 times on "The Beverly Hillbillies", 13 of them as his secretary Janet Trego.
Did the producers feed Bennett Cerf some questions? His, and the panel's first question to Kangaroo referee was "Do you have anything to do with animals?" And his first question to the Church bell guy was about "....musical instrument..."
I think that's a good question but honestly it seemed to me he was surprised by getting the answer yes to his question about if she worked with animals. However I thought it was an odd question to start with as well.
Funny how Arlene looks like her Daughter in these later shows. But really, she does look younger than back in the 50s. Martin made her feel secure & Loved. She must have been devastated when he died & then just 2 years (?) after she was robbed of the heart necklace he gave her. Whoever stole it must have known who she was & who gave it to her.
My wife and I had a breadbox in our home; and to the astute Englishman I wish to say, "A breadbox is a box that holds bread (with the assumption that it is supposed to keep the bread fresher, longer). I just don't understand them-there British folks! And it annoys me when they make statements like, "I need to go to hospital!" or "He went to University." Where are the articles "the" and "a?" It drives me crazy! But then we're looking at a country where everybody drives on the wrong side of the road, sits on the right side of the front seat when driving the car, and all pedestrians walk backwards!
I adore Arlene Francis and think she almost always looked wonderful, but this hair style and color (which looks considerably lighter than usual) wasn't particularly flattering to her -- about as flattering as Tony Randall's crew cut. She adopted this style beginning with the previous episode, and I do hope she got rid of it by the next!
There’s an awkward aire about the show. I can’t put my finger on it, but it’s as if something really bad happened off stage before the broadcast and everyone is having issues keeping it together. Am I the only one who sees it???
@@gailsirois7175 ; A lot of people didn't know about the hazards of smoking, and the three martini lunch may not have been a good thing but I'll still take the culture of the Eisenhower years over early 21st-century America in which it's considered hip to be a foul-mouthed, unintellectual hedonistic degenerate who can't get one sentence out without saying "like" or "you know". .
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In my opinion John Daly is the greatest game show host in the history of television. This not to take anything away from the recent passing of Alex Trebeck but his game show was ultra formatted whereas Whsts My Line was always changing even in the half hour ot was on.
You're so right! John was the #1 game show host.
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Totally* Agree.
The Only Liberty and Variance I would take is to A.) Expand Upon that and Add Talk Shows into the equation and B.) Add Jonny Carson as the one (and only other) Place Setting at that Special Table.
17 years on the air! And Arlene Francis is an absolute joy, not to take away from Dorothy and Bennett. And I LOVE Tony. But she seemed a little tipsy tonight. I loved her demeanor. Anyone else notice?
The big difference was there was no game per se. WML was a panel show. And John Daly was the master host. He was the judge, the referee, the moderator and talk show host. All in one.
Amen re Mr. Daly. Debonair, classy, intelligent, articulate,
great sense of humor,
charming, sincere…..
No one today could compare…❤
Arlene Francis is incredible: smart as a whip, hilarious, beautiful and always a class act. And she has this amazing smile, this amazing quality to her voice...
So true. Add the fact that Arlene never lost sight of the fact that she was playing a game. It was fun, and she was a brilliant player.
A lush who married for money
@@rezzer7918 Huh???
One of my first jobs after college was working for Allen Funt on Candid Camera. Great memories at 18:22.
What was it like to work with Allen Funt and "Candid Camera?" They should bring "Candid Camera" back.
@@williamdunphy352 I read once that Allen Funt would have all the secretaries who worked for the show answer the phone saying "Smile your on Candid Camera. On the day JFK was assassinated one of the secretaries would not answer the phone with the cheerful greeting and Funt became outraged at her and also fired her.
Not too long ago (as it is now August of 2024), I read something about Allen Funt that said he was not a very pleasant man to deal with. I wonder how much truth there was in that reference? I do know that watching him on television years ago-- on a black-and-white television set, that he seemed a very cordial and pleasant man to watch on the screen with his program "Candid Camera."
I had a very fun experience of meeting Mr. Funt around 1985. I was then working for a "major" airline, and Mr. Funt wanted to use an "up-grade certificate," which he had, from "coach" to "first class." To make it short, "coach" was sold out - and "first class" was open. Well okay so far - the problem was that my company would not allow for "up-grades" if "coach" was fully booked. Mr. Funt (quite rightly) questioned this - reasoning that he was not intending to be in the coach class anyway - just looking for a seat "up front," which was available. I was embarrassed to have to defend this stupid policy, and Mr. Funt sensed that I knew he was correct, and my company wrong - suddenly we both realized the absurdity of it all and had a big laugh. He was such a good sport about it - I never forgot his good natured acceptance. P.S. After a year, or so, I left those "friendly skies" and found work more to my liking. Thanks Mr. Funt!
Fun with Funt
You are a great storyteller, and you know how to use punctuation correctly. Thank you for both.
@@daler.steffy1047 Thank you for the kind words. ;-)
Your life defining moment eh
@@rezzer7918 Wait for my book Skippy.
Candid Camera hosted by Allen Funt was a great show. Thanks for the video.
One of my favorite episodes. Arlene is just adorable!
This was a very fun episode. Arlene was on fire!
THE funniest episode I’ve seen!! Arlene had had a few 😂
The bell foundry is still a working foundry but this guest Paul Taylor was the last of the Taylor family to own it/work there. After two hundred years he was the last of them.
Thanks for sharing. That’s kind of sad.
So many businesses in Great Britain shut their doors during the 60's. Socialism at its worse. Margaret Thatcher said that this experiment would fail once those who could pay went out of business. A lesson the US should learn before it's too late
As an Australian, bush born and bred. Kangaroo's have TWO legs. Their sometimes use on the ground when foraging is incidental.
This took place on my 16th birthday! I'm now 75 years old.
Happy Birthday
Allen Funt was making me laugh at the onset, and all through his time on this show. His voice was so amusing! Stumped the panel!
“A bell-like tone!” .. they had so much fun on WML.. TV was so much better back then.. Arlene was in rare form that night! .. I wasn’t born until 1958 but I vaguely remember it being on TV during the 60s. R.I.P. WML panel and John Charles Daly moderator
Arlene was DRUNK
I think that Arlene had possibly had one over the eight and the reactions of fellow panellists and Mr Daly suggest amusement at the unusual situation. Nevertheless, as always, she is the complete professional and a joy. She could also, of course, have been totally exhausted and relying on her "show must go on" ethics to get her through the half hour. Her work schedules must have been totally draining.
When I watched this show as a small boy, I saw Arlene Francis as ancient; now, I have a crush on her. Things change.
She passed away in 2001. 😫
She's gorgeous 😍.
brachio1000 . Lol! 😂 wait till it happens with Aunt Bee. You’re really old then!
That's like me, John Walton, Nick Barkley, and Captain Von Trapp...I thought they were old, but not so much anymore! They are very handsome!!! ❤️
I happened upon Arlene and her husband in a New York restaurant back in the day. She was a lovely lady, friendly and joking around with us. She had her diamond heart necklace on too. Great memory.
Met Allen Funt in early 80s at a tiny tavern. Had no idea where he was. He filmed a dry cleaners (near Stadium High School in Tacoma), and he asked, "Where is my hotel" ? (The Sheraton). So I drove him down there.
He gave me $100 dollar bill ! ;-)
Arlene is hilarious in the church bell maker segment😂😂😂😂
Looks like Arlene was the answer to tonight's edition of "Who's in the Bag?"
I really enjoyed this episode. The 2 regular guests added humor to the show as the panel tried to guest them. I also enjoyed how the mystery guest stumped the panel, which rarely happens.
I watched candid camera when I was a child, it was still on TV then, with Funt the host.That was around 1969.
I loved those shows Allen Funt put on, they were really fun to watch.
Around 1968 or 1969 Funt did a Candid Camera -type movie called "What Do You Say to a Naked Lady?" A naked woman would walk up to people on the street and ask directions, or be in an elevator with other people. It was rather bizarre. As far as entertainment goes, the TV show was much better and funnier. Unfortunately, it was on Sundays at 9:30, and when it was over I had to go to bed, and I'd think, "I have to go to school tomorrow." I still have that sinking feeling when I see recordings of Alan Funt.
LOL 13:07 "I'm English, what's a breadbox?"
***** Yes, he was quite quick with words that English fellow, and of course he understood the meaning...or? ;) (In British English a breadbox is called a "breadpan")
+Vahan Nisanian A literal laugh out loud here too. :)
+oldfart4751 Not "Breadpan" at all? ;) (That's what my old dictionary says).
I was born and raised in the U.S. and I've never seen a breadbox either in my entire 66+ years. The only time I have ever heard it referred to was on WML.
A bread bin.
*Arlene is wonderfully tipsy in this episode!*
Maybe a little glass of wine or 2 before she went on....
This was filmed in New York, and they STILL said "roh-day-oh" instead of "roh-dee-oh." I thought that was just a California peculiarity. :-) (I'm a lifelong Midwesterner; we ALWAYS say "roh-dee-oh.")
I believe they adopted the Los Angeles pronunciation of Rodeo Drive, the pronunciation of which has Hispanic influence
How does Bennett mispronounce so many common words? This time it's Los Angeles. Re: rodeo. In California it's ro-day-o...as in Rodeo Drive.
He comes off as very provincial. Surprising since he travels so much.
Allen Funt was intelligent enough to graduate high school at age 15. Too young to leave home to go to college, at first he went locally to Pratt Institute in the Fort Greene section of Brooklyn. When he was old enough, he left Brooklyn for Ithaca, NY and Cornell University where he received a BFA.
I am also a Cornell alum and when I attended there in the early 1970's, I became close friends with one of the trainers for their athletic teams. He was a native of Ithaca and one of the stories he told me was about Allen Funt. It was the depression and Funt was practically penniless. The only way he was able to remain at Cornell was that a local family took him in and provided his room & board and sundry needs.
Lois Simmons ... They couldn’t go to college at 15 back then? Things have changed since then. While still in high school, my grandson went to college, too, last year at age 16. Just for one course to see if he could handle it. He did great!
@@dianefiske-foy4717 I didn't say he was too young to go to college. I said he was considered too young to go AWAY to college. Pratt Institute where he first went after HS is a college.
Once he had some successful college experience locally and a little more maturity, he transferred to Cornell in upstate NY and a good distance from Brooklyn, especially in the days before super highways. In fact he might have taken the train. It was possible in the 1930's.
Lois Simmons ... Oh, okay. Got it now. I live in Alabama, but I’m from N.Y., though the far western part. Lucille Ball’s hometown. I’ve heard of all of the places you mentioned, but I’ve never been to any of them. I did go to Grand Central Station while in the Army and took a cab to go to the bus station to go home for Christmas. I loved watching “Candid Camera” though. Funny show!!!
@@dianefiske-foy4717 I am familiar with the hometown of Lucille Ball (also the home of the Goodell family, Natalie Merchant and Irv Noren (major league athlete in two sports). I've been to western NY a few times and near that city, but never actually in that city.
If your only experience with NYC is to take a cab from Grand Central to the Port Authority Bus Terminal, you didn't get to see much of NYC except for Times Square and a lot of horrible crosstown traffic in midtown Manhattan (unless you were there in the wee hours of the morning).
Lois Simmons ... Yeah, I think Jamestown is one city that a lot of people, at least Lucy fans, would know of. Last time I was there, they were trying to make it a Lucille Ball ... Oh, I forgot what it’s called ... town. Dang, I hate getting older and losing memory, eyesight, etc. Anyways, I’ve heard of Natalie Merchant, but not the other people you mentioned. I do know that several musicians came from the area. As for NYC, it was the middle of the day when I, and a bunch of other Women’s Army Corp soldiers were there, and it was Christmastime in 1976. I don’t know if that would have been what made it so crazy there, but the place was. When we tried to get a cab, these guys came up to us and said they would get us a cab. They did, but the tried to charge us $5 a piece for doing so, and they had nothing to do with the cabs (our cab driver told us that and told us not to pay. We decided to pay a little for their trouble.). I loved Grand Central Station though! Thought it was cool!
thanx for posting this entire episode -- the most controversial of 1963. Despite that great introduction of Tony -- it becomes evident from her third question of contestant one that Arlene is . . . . well -- flushed. Snoot-full even.
***** I don't think they were. Arlene could get away with almost everything. ;)
I thought she was just in a real good mood. Are there written accounts of Arlene being snookered that evening. I know that she had a very loose style, but she was an old pro, and I am shocked, shocked, that she would go on the air tight!
I suspected as much... Arlene could be silly, but blowing a raspberry on air was a little much even for her! :-) Not that I minded, it was fun to watch.
Reluctant Dragon
I was half asleep while watching much of this episode. Clearly, I'll have to watch it again when I'm more fully conscious! I missed Arlene's tipsiness entirely.
I have never seen Arlene this drunk before. But she seems to be in a good mood.
In a good mood, yes. Drunk? No. (Sorry for the late reply.)
speech noticeably deliberate, lacking 1-liners, slightly slurred--some would call that imbibed but regardless on several other episodes she was w/o a doubt under the influence
Steff2929again Agreed, she's feeling no pain and there's nothing funny about it.
Even in black and white her nose appears to be flushed.
I'd say she wasn't drunk here at all. Nevertheless I have seen her drunk on another episode, most definitely.
I know these things. I've been drunk myself many many times.
The one thing that inevitably strikes me when watching these older broadcasts is not just how nicely everyone spoke, dressed, carried themselves, etc., but for the most part how trim everyone was. I grew up in the 60s and 70s and I know we ate three meals a day and rarely snacked. There was no soda pop in our house; the staples for drink were water, orange juice, milk, and coffee and tea once you turned sixteen. Overall, I just have to believe the food was better, better prepared certainly, because my mom who was still what was once called a housewife was an excellent cook, always effortlessly whipping up new and tasty concoctions that must have been healthy for us because we had only the usual illnesses and were overall pretty happy and adjusted. I know we didn't sit around playing with the electronic nonsense we didn't have, we walked many places, or biked, until we learned to drive cars, and in general, getting back to my original point, it sure doesn't look that kind of lifestyle affected people adversely. People were nicer looking back then, unquestionably, and I'll bet happier, too.
Also, I know the food was so much better for you back then, especially the fruit and veggies. They tasted so much better.
It is true that Americans have become more obese since the 1960s. It is also true that many more Americans smoked tobacco in the 1960s and depended on it to keep their figures.
SMH. Thank goodness we have the sense to not dress up for something that has no real use in life. I love watching these old shows, long before I was born. But I am extremely grateful that I didn't have to go through all the rigmarole that accompanied such pomp and circumstance. Why anyone would want to put themselves through such self-torture is beyond my abilities to reason.
@Sandra Jones To each their own. It was what it was. Thank goodness I don't have to dress up more than two or three times a year. And even then, I hate it.
@Sandra Jones There is a difference between dressing respectively and wearing a tuxedo or evening gown or whatever. I have turned down many events because I knew that I would be "dressed down" because I have no need for such. In those cases, there was little need for the event. I can't imagine dressing up to go to the zoo. Yet, I recall hearing that women who attended the opening of Disney Land had their high heels sink into the tar that had softened due to the hot weather. Sorry, but not sorry. Comfort is much more important than conformity.
The Loughborough, Taylor Bell foundry produced many famous bells. I believe that it is still in business. 24:13
Allen Funt from Candid Camera the Original realty show!!!
Game two illustrates that WML could be both amusing and educational with a contestant of substance. And I remember Funt's Sunday night program and thought "Candid Camera" was educational as well. Allan Funt once observed that you can divide the world into two camps: "those who see everything and those who see nothing." As a result, he did not have to do much in the way of hiding his cameras.
"If it hasn't got strings...can you blow on it?"
Only Arlene! 😁😁😁😁
I LOVE watching these old shows!!! So many were on before I was born!
Any other Dorothy L. Sayers fans here? I just re-read "The Nine Tailors" recently, and when Paul Taylor signed in, I was thinking of the book even before church bells were mentioned. One of the bells in the book is named Tailor Paul, and one of the conspirators uses Paul Taylor as an alias for correspondence.
That was my first thought as well.
Same here. I took up bellringing due to that novel. Second only to Gaudy Night. Terrific author!
Wow! How far we’ve come from Candid Camera to Funniest Videos and beyond!
Only female kangaroos have pouches, but that rule is sometimes broken for people. In 1983, I worked for a month in a research laboratory at the Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research in Melbourne, Australia. Everyone wore a one-size-fits-all lab coat with a large pouch in the front. It was held in place by tying it in the back, and I think it also had a loop that went over your head. While I was in Australia, I also visited Flinders University in Adelaide. They used the same kind.of lab coats that I used in the U.S., with buttons in front and pockets on either side.
Excellent comeback john did to Bennett at the end of the show 🤣🤣😅😂👍
"Bing bing bing bing!" I crack up every time. It would have been tiresome if Arlene was always drunk or high on the program, but she certainly is fun here. Tony was obviously uncomfortable by it all.
I thought I heard him laughing quite a bit.
I thought so too, she had a couple of drinks before they went on
@@normasandow I think they all enjoyed a drink before the show since they did it at 10:30 pm.
TVLand is bringing Candid Camera back on Aug 11. Peter Funt and Mayim Bialik are listed as hosts.
They might as well. Half the shows on TV and TH-cam probably wouldn't exist without Candid Camera.
14:06 'If it hasn't got strings, can you blow on it?' *everybody bursts into laughter* then Arlene gives her cute smile 😂 they still had dirty minds back then, but they knew how to have a sense of class about things. I love this episode, Arlene was hilarious when she was tipsy 🤣
She was MORE THAN tipsy...she was 3 sheets to the wind sweetie cuz she crashed her car that might on the Northern State Parkway she was so jammed up.
Yes Arlene was definitely having a great time on the panel that night. She was as lit as the nose of Rudolph the reindeer. But it was fun to watch her feeling so happy, nonetheless,
If this is Arlene after drink or two ?
Couldn't love anymore!
Did anyone other than I catch John's riposte "Sonny Tufts!" when someone on the panel shouted "Kangaroo?" Fell out of my chair. PS: Arlene is so cute when she's a tad loaded, which she was this time around. Even stoned she managed to, more-or-less, guess two of the occupations. WML, almost always, comes off like a veddy veddy hip cocktail party.
I guess Sonny Tufts whenever anyone asks a trivia question about old Hollywood that I don't know the answer to. No one ever gets the reference. :)
I think the reference was to Kermit Schafer’s urban legend, later recounted by Leonard Maltin, of the surprise and outrage expressed by Joseph Cotton on-air while reading the intro for the actor, Tufts, replacing him on a radio show the following week. Tufts was not considered a top actor, only getting a Hollywood break due to the other actors serving in the Forces, and his personal life was rather scandalous. No evidence exists however that Cotton actually shouted “Sonny Tufts?!!” on-air, but the story was assumed to be true during the 60s. Snopes, among others during the internet age, debunks it.
Love how Arlene is smashed and she still managed to get the answer 😂
Arlene is smart, my favorite panelist.
@@terrymckay9776 Mine too. I love her...
Every body sounded smashed!
Bennett's puns. Got to love them
I thought it was cute that Arlene, like probably most Americans, assumed that the "wraparound" portions of Candid Camera where they introduce and comment on the filmed "stunts" were live. I thought it had that live look myself, but read some years ago, that once in the 10pm slot that they taped those segments. Arlene was being coy about the six weeks they took off in the summer, and used pre-taped shows. It's as if it wasn't live it would destroy an illusion of spontaneity, and I suppose that is a point that should be taken. But, I think today, people understand that many shows "like The Tonight Show and Letterman" are taped, but retain their spontaneity because they are almost never edited. Or do viewers even think about it?
22:28 Arlene clearly implying WML episodes that had been pre-recorded.
23:47 Bennett- "John how does it feel to have the 2nd best head of hair among the males on the show?"
John- " Tony's 1st, I'm 2nd, where does that leave you?
Bennett set himself up for that one. lol
That'd be a fun Sunday night: Candid Camera b/w What's My Line?
Dorothy’s hair: the latest style from Mars.
Now I absolutely KNOW Bennet is in on it!!! ….How is his first question about animals??? Absolutely no way to just guess that out of thin air….
I like how Arlene poshly rolled her R when the Englishman couldn't understand her. r-r-r-r-rining.
My dad once met Allen Funt in the men's room at LaGuardia! And he knew it wasn't a stunt.
LOL, wow so I just came from Leicestershire, I probably heard his church bells.
I think that is the only joke Bennett ever told that is funny! Arlene is trashed--I love it!
When TV was FREE...And entertaining........I have 300 channels and sometimes can't find ANYTHING good.That's why I watch these shows.
Arlene was such a star!
Concerning the first contestant: What a looker! Woo woo! I used to live in Long Beach and worked (briefly) as a schoolteacher in Mrs. Levisohn's hometown of Lakewood--albeit a generation later than this episode. I wonder if we ever crossed paths.
I agree, just a gorgeous woman.
"All I can say is we are lucky they have not thrown the switch." He means the censor button for live TV gone b-a-aa-d. Yeah -- what with Arlene's delicate condition and embarrassing observations about the netherparts of Kangaroos. Her gassious impersonation of a bagpipe must have made the CBS censor bite through the stem of his pipe.
It was 5 months since Arlene nearly died from that Long Island expressway auto accident. I speculate if she still had a pain problem at this point. Entirely possible. Self medicating with alcohol? Pain medication side effect reaction? Pain medication - alcohol combination?
Still, you gotta admire Arlene. Even with her sheets to the wind, she is in the second contestant spot amusing, witty, and she solves it. And she solves the mystery guest, too. 2. You go *hic* girl.
soulierinvestments ... Arlene didn’t really solve the mystery guest, until the last question was asked and got a “No” and Allen spoke in his own voice. But she sure was hilarious on this episode 😂🤣😂🤣🥰‼️
Perhaps I missed the post here that enlightened the story behind Arlene's 'under the influence' behavior in September, 1963. I did my best to scan 6 years of comments because i m certain someone knew the answer. I'm not revealing anything but suggest you join the WML group on Facebook. It's a marvelous place where sophisticated, stylish and clever people figure out these things. Not interested? You can find some clues by reading Arlene's long-out-of-print memoirs. (if you can find a copy that is).
A loopy Arlene I'm up for that!! LOL
Dorothy gets a kick out of her 'Highness' Arlene asking questions. Arlene either had some bubbly or something stronger before the show. Even her hand gestures are different.
The Palucci estate was settled after years of fighting 2019 in and out of the courts. Shame that this man who started a hugely lucritave business/es ended up after his 2011 death having his three children fight in and out of courts for 9 years dwindling the estate by legal fees. Sad how money tears some families apart.
Someone on the panel didn't ring bells. They "tooted" at 16:13.
at 16:10
There has been some discussion on past shows about contestants that don't know what the rules of the game are. I thought it interesting that with the 2nd contestant when he was asked whether he knew how the game kept score he replied "Yes, I've been told". I don't know if it was something new that someone associated with the show started informing contestants how the game was scored or not. If it was, you wonder why John would even ask the question. This has always been a bit of a mystery.
I wonder if it was because of the game show scams that had been going on...Mr. Daly wanted it known to all what the rules were and it was done in front of a crowd of witnesses.
@@andreaplummer3841 Could be. That's a good theory.
Arlene musing: It's not a it's not a panel show, it's not a variety show and. it's not a situation comedy show. What's it doing on television? LOL
Candid Camera qualifies as a reality show. No other shows of that genre come to mind in that era. The rarity of the genre makes it much more difficult for Arlene to think of it, even with the show preceding WML in the CBS lineup. In fact, there may not have been a name for this type of program in 1963.
I think Arlene Francis became more and more beautiful through the years of this show.
Funny, back then people did not refer to movies or films. They almost always used the term "picture" as you can see at 1:15.
Arlene is an adorable drunk 😄
Touche
She doesn't slur her words. She's very entertaining!
Bennett mentions that the Los Angeles Dodgers had a bad day on 9/15/63. Not only did they lose to the Philies 6-1 at Connie Mack Stadium in Philadelphia but the second place St. Louis Cardinals swept the Milwaukee Braves in a double header at home. That pulled the Cards to within one game of the Dodgers in the standings with two weeks to play.
The Dodgers had blown a comfortable lead in the 1962 pennant race and it looked like they were about to do it again. Although the Dodgers had a 5-2 record that week, St. Louis had won ten in a row to pull close. And the Dodgers would be coming to St. Louis for a three game series on Monday 9/16 to Wednesday 9/18.
The regular members of WML never seemed to be partial to the Dodgers when they were still in NYC and Bennett can barely contain his glee over what looks like another choke by them.
His glee was premature. Oddly, the Dodgers lost every Sunday in September when WML was live. Other than that, they played outstanding baseball until they clinched the pennant. They went into St. Louis determined to prove they were the better team. They did.
On Monday night at the original Busch Stadium, Johnny Podres got the starting pitcher assignment from Manager Walt Alston. The lefty from Witherbee, NY was usually able to raise his game a couple of notches when the stakes were high and he didn't disappoint. He and 18-game winner Ernie Broglio battled through 8 innings of a 1-1 game. The Dodgers struck first in the 6th inning on a double by Maury Wills, a stolen base and a single by NL batting champ Tommy Davis. The Cards tied the score on a 7th inning homer by the great Stan "The Man" Musial. The Cards batted for Broglio in the 8th and brought in veteran Bobby Shantz in the 9th. Ron Fairly immediately connected for a double and then with one out Willie Davis singled him home. A walk to Ken McMullen and an error by Julian Javier allowing the fleet Dodger center fielder to score from second gave the Dodgers and insurance run. Ron Perranoski in the midst of his best season nailed down the victory with a 1-2-3 inning.
The next night, the Dodgers sent Sandy Koufax to the mound. He had already won 23 games en route to winning the Cy Young Award and NL MVP award. The way he was pitching, he often only needed one run to win. He got it in the first inning in typical Dodger fashion for that era: a single by Wills, a stolen base, a wild pitch by Cardinals starter Curt Simmons and a double by Jim Gilliam. The score stayed 1-0 until the 8th when big Frank Howard hit a 2-run homer onto the stadium roof. Koufax only struck out 4 that night, but he only surrendered four singles, walked none and cruised to a 4-0 win.
On Wednesday, the sweep was completed with a game that will live long in Dodger lore. Young Pete Richert got the start for the Dodgers, coming off his best game of the season, his first complete game of the season four days earlier. The Cardinals scored four runs off of him and another off of Bob Miller to take a 5-1 lead after 3 innings. Bob Gibson was pitching for St. Louis and he was just coming into his own. He and Broglio tied for the team lead in wins. Going into the 8th inning, the score was still 5-1 as Miller had pitched four shutout innings after giving up a run in the 3rd.
Trailing by 4 runs and with the pitcher leading off the 8th inning, Alston sent up Dick Nen to bat for Miller. It was Nen's major league debut, but he managed to hit the ball hard against Gibson. However center fielder Curt Flood caught it for the first out. But that hard hit ball signaled a sea change in the game. Gibson didn't retire another batter. Singles by Wills and Gilliam, followed by a walk to Wally Moon loaded the bases. A single by Tommy Davis plated two runs and chased Gibson to the showers. Cards manager Johnny Keane called upon Shantz once again to face Fairly. This time Alston chose to send up Howard to bat for Fairly. A wild pitch en route to a walk loaded the bases. Willie Davis's fly to Flood was deep enough to score Moon and the Dodgers were within one run. Now Alston sent up Bill Skowron to bat for Johnny Roseboro, so Keane countered with Ron Taylor to relieve Shantz. Skowron grounded out to end the inning.
Now Alston had to bring in a new catcher, a new pitcher and a new first baseman. The catcher was Doug Camilli. On the mound, Alston went to his ace reliever, Perranoski. But what about first base? Skowron played first but he made the last out of the inning. He decided to have Perranoski bat in Skowron's spot and keep the rookie Nen in the game. It was a fateful, inspired decision. Perranoski retired the Cardinals in order in the 8th. With one out in the 9th Nen came to the plate for his second major league at bat. He promptly homered onto the roof to tie the game. It would be his only hit for the Dodgers, although he would go on to play for the Senators and Cubs in his otherwise uneventful career. (His other claim to fame is being the father of future star relief pitcher Robb Nen.)
Perranoski was brilliant, pitching 6 shutout innings. The Dodgers finally pushed across a run in the 13th inning to win the game.
They left St. Louis leading by 4 games with 8 to play. They were in the process of winning 10 out of 12 games (their only losses coming on Sunday.) Meanwhile the Cardinals lost their next 3 games as well. The Dodgers were shutout the following Sunday (9/22) but St. Louis lost in Cincinnati, enabling the Dodgers to clinch a tie for the NL pennant with a week to go. After an off day on Monday, the Cardinals lost on Tuesday afternoon at Wrigley Field to the Cubs to give the Dodgers the pennant. (They beat the Mets that night anyway.)
Meanwhile the Yankees had already clinched the American League pennant by shutting out the Twins in Minnesota on Friday September 13. They eliminated both the Twins and the White Sox that day with the victory as those teams were tied for second at the end of play that day, 14 games behind with 13 to play. (The White Sox won in Washington, but it was to no avail.)
Yankee fans were optimistic going into the World Series, looking for their third straight championship under manager Ralph Houk in his first three seasons. But there would be no joy on the night of Sunday, October 6. The Dodgers finally won on Sunday for the first time in over a month, completing a four game sweep of the Yanks, the first time they were swept in a World Series. The Dodgers needed just four pitchers to dominate Yankee batters with Koufax coming back to his hometown to win Game One at Yankee Stadium, 5-2, backed by Roseboro's 3-run homer and setting a new World Series record with 15 strikeouts. Podres returned to the site of his 1955 World Series clinching triumph to win 4-1 with 9th inning help from Perranoski. Switching to L.A. for Game Three on October 5, Don Drysdale shutout the Yankees 1-0, and then Koufax came back in Game Four with a 2-1 victory, 12 more strikeouts and the World Series MVP to go along with his other awards that year. It was the Dodger fans turn to smile. It was the start of a downward slide for the Yankees that lasted over a decade.
Could you go into a bit more detail next time.? ;)
This was the beginning of the end of the Yankee dynasty. They were beaten in 7 in '64 by the Cards. They had rested on their laurels and failed to sign black players in the late '50's. 1964 by David Halberstam tells the story. A little off topic but Bennett Cerf would love the historical diversion.
after asking her question at 6:55, dorothy looks over at arlene just to kind of giggle in amusement : ) cute
Does anyone know is The Whistler in the audience always the same person?
Good episode.
I watched these two, lucky as I was to have indulgent parents who let me stay up late Sundays.
Arlene is.....loopy. LOL I'm assuming she had a few drinks with dinner.
+Purple Capricorn I don't think there's much of a question about that. :)
Paul
Arlene is looped!
@@truth2uguys
At-least a two martini dinner! She is adorable.
They all seemed rather silly - maybe everybody went to the same party
Arlene sounds like she knocked back a couple before the episode. 🍻
Oh my, Arlene 😂
16:32 - Arlene's personality had a *r-r-r-r-r-ringing* sound about it 😄
Totally have to agree with Bennett here. Who on earth would say kangaroos are four legged?
On other occasions Daly clasified simians as four-legged. Silly, because that would make us four-legged too.
They run on their front LEGS, don't they?
@@kennethlatham3133 : No. They hop on their two large feet!
They use their front legs as well as their back legs to walk. What else would you call the two in front? Not arms. I'm Australian and never heard them called two legged. Going to go and google now lol.
i have always loved very handsome allen funt!
Dorothy is getting a kick out of Arlene's loopiness
Her reactions the entire episode kill me.
I'm wondering if she was still on painkillers from her car accident that kept her out for quite a while.
You can see bennettholding his head in his hands like he can only imagine what arlene is gonna do next, as he and dorothy are cracking up
Ride or alongside without dissemination the appearance of the animal? What did she mean?
60's "secret semantic" perhaps.
What happened at 16:13? Arlene sounds pretty sloshed
This must have been prerecorded because Mr Funt’s birthday was Sept 15th and it seems like he or Daly would have mentioned it. At 48 here Funt looked much like he did for many years to come.
How did Bennett Smurf get onto animals with the first question?
I think Arlene would have been such a fun lady just to go have a drink with and talk. She would have me laughing so hard. Life was so different then.
I don't understand why Arlene would have to allude to the show sometimes being taped. Did taped episodes not come with a, "This has been a videotaped production" type notice?
I seem to recall a famous BEVERLY HILLBILLIES episode about a boxing kangaroo. I assume that the first contestant provided the marsupial.
Right, that was the "Giant Jackrabbit" episode.
Unfortunately no screen credit was given to Marilyn Levisohn. Someone who had a credited appearance was a young Sharon Tate who played Mr. Drysdale's secretary. She appeared 15 times on "The Beverly Hillbillies", 13 of them as his secretary Janet Trego.
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15:52 - 16:52 : Am I the only one who thinks Arlene appears to have been sipping martinis?
And Demerol pain killers.
No but I may be the only one here who doesn't think Arlene is drunk....at all.
Those Armenians never say no to a cocktail.
22:35 What's Arlene referring to? How come the show's were pre-recorded?
They took a summer break from July each year. Sounds like it wasn't quite public knowledge given the cryptic way she refers to it here.
Did the producers feed Bennett Cerf some questions? His, and the panel's first question to Kangaroo referee was "Do you have anything to do with animals?" And his first question to the Church bell guy was about "....musical instrument..."
I think that's a good question but honestly it seemed to me he was surprised by getting the answer yes to his question about if she worked with animals.
However I thought it was an odd question to start with as well.
Funny how Arlene looks like her Daughter in these later shows. But really, she does look younger than back in the 50s. Martin made her feel secure & Loved. She must have been devastated when he died & then just 2 years (?) after she was robbed of the heart necklace he gave her. Whoever stole it must have known who she was & who gave it to her.
Sweet memories.
*_REFEREE IN BOXING KANGAROO ACT_*
*_MAKES CHURCH BELLS_*
My wife and I had a breadbox in our home; and to the astute Englishman I wish to say, "A breadbox is a box that holds bread (with the assumption that it is supposed to keep the bread fresher, longer). I just don't understand them-there British folks! And it annoys me when they make statements like, "I need to go to hospital!" or "He went to University." Where are the articles "the" and "a?" It drives me crazy! But then we're looking at a country where everybody drives on the wrong side of the road, sits on the right side of the front seat when driving the car, and all pedestrians walk backwards!
About 10:50 -- a pterodactyl from New Zealand? Huh?
5:47, what?
I adore Arlene Francis and think she almost always looked wonderful, but this hair style and color (which looks considerably lighter than usual) wasn't particularly flattering to her -- about as flattering as Tony Randall's crew cut. She adopted this style beginning with the previous episode, and I do hope she got rid of it by the next!
When the British guy Paul Taylor signs his name it looks like Paul Tay Poo.....lolololo
There’s an awkward aire about the show. I can’t put my finger on it, but it’s as if something really bad happened off stage before the broadcast and everyone is having issues keeping it together.
Am I the only one who sees it???
We thought it'd be really great....!
Back when people had manners.
And got drunk on a regular basis ...and smoked wherever they were blowing smoke in everyone's face...oh yea..good times
@@gailsirois7175 ; A lot of people didn't know about the hazards of smoking, and the three martini lunch may not have been a good thing but I'll still take the culture of the Eisenhower years over early 21st-century America in which it's considered hip to be a foul-mouthed, unintellectual hedonistic degenerate who can't get one sentence out without saying "like" or "you know". .
4:36 The L.A. Dodgers lost to the Philadelphia Phillies at Connie Mack Stadium, 1 to 6.
Refreshingly the girl was honest and said (essentially) that she didn't give a damn.