I could say he's just salty, but in truth i believe his debt lead him to have as other have suggested back street style augmentation. Where is debt collectors took what body parts they could for his debt and left him with most likely dug out augments from fallen pilots.
I think its not that they are emotionless but that they normally don't show it, and maybe dont really understand feelings well. Iguazu just got so mad at 621, he became an angry revengehobo.
So, they have a different interpretation of emotions (which could be seen as unnaturally high hatred or not having emotions), 621 barely (if ever) talks, it seems like a side effect of gen 4 augmentation is just autism of some sort
Let's all honor the sacrifice of the Dafeng Student Pilot. His deaths have allowed countless Ravens to test their builds. A true buddy, always there for us.
Did any other AC lore fans shake their head in joyous disbelief at all the visual to the series past? Finding the institute AC wreck in Ayre's survey mission was like seeing a fossilized disorder unit to me! Stuff like the base Balem and Arquebus cores being straight up AC3 designs reimagined, the fat AC legs that Snail uses, and even how the PCA are like the earth special forces. And lets not forget how the plot is being orchestrated by an Ai. Visually and thematically, Fromsoft knows how to speak to us long time AC fans, even 10 years after the last title.
As of writing this, I finished the NG++ ending last night. I have put as many of the pieces together as I could on my own, and I feel like I did alright, much better than I've been able to when I've played Dark Souls in all honesty. Now to see just how much I missed! Thanks for making this series, I've learned a lot of cool info on a series I started learning about and getting into in the past few months!
Its a pleasure to read this and i am glad to hear about your putting together what you could. I think that is what makes lore hunting so much fun, there is so much to learn and to learn from others.
The final ending is definitely one of the strangest ones. It very reminiscent of other Japanese Transhumanist stories, where the ultimate evolution of people is some sorta energy-based life form, semi-immortal, nearly incorporeal with infinite potential. I wouldn't call it all that but its also not as hopeful as Liberation. It just leaves a lot of questions and understandably its confusing for everyone, especially thanks to how Ayre words her speech. What I do think though is that, for the most part, what made Thumb and O'Keffe so afraid is that there's no way to know what will happen when Symbiosis is achieved. The consequence they've been mentioning. The Convergence is terrifying in the sense that, until it happens, the results are as unknowable and as frightening as just dying. The potential to lose yourself, to lose what makes you human (and in turn YOU) can put anyone off. People can become robots with their brains infinitely preserved in a their steel skulls but that just sounds so foreign and strange that it puts people off. And they'd rather live a miserable existence if it means being human. In a sense its very similar to End of Evangelion but compared to that, turning into OJ, you keep individuality. You keep your consciousness and you keep your dreams. You just lose your corporeal form. Hell, what Allmind want is prolly closer to EoE than what actually did happen. But in both stories (at least for the OG Anime ending), this symbiotic existence is not all that so bad once you're finally there at the other side. Whether or not its just the dead or all who live turn into Coral-like lifeforms is unknown but I see the ending in a positive light, as with Coral now disseminated across the stars, there's effectively an afterlife. 621 doesn't need to go through surgery, get used again to being a normal human, with normal needs who has to eventually die. Maybe he can possess a smaller machine one day and live a civilian life, being an energy based lifeform gives you that option. And any other human is effectively guaranteed an afterlife in the Coral. And for the pilots who are now their ACs, they can enjoy fighting each other for years, facing Songbirds and Zimmermans for all- -y'know what this is hell after all.
Interesting, i think this what i like about this ending the most it allows for conversations like this and exploring ideas that others have in a healthy way. I like this, its good for lore.
Correction: Rusty is piloting Ortus regardless of which ending you choose, and he is the one who says “Let’s see what this AC can do.” Oh, and Ayre doesn’t fight you in Echo, she uses a separate AC that’s part of the Ibis series. IB-07 SOL 644.
Rubicon reminded me alot of the world of Blame! With how endless and unavoidable the giant industrial structures are almost like how the megacity just goes on forever
From the video you already noticed ACL Mention after the fire of Ibis all the government and corps are abandoned the rubicon until someone leaks the information about coral is still exists in the Rubicon 3. So in order to not look obvious corporation given an excuse as they will rebuild the rubicon as a production planet so the Rubiconians will not starve to death. That is why you see all the mega structures that cover the sky. But secretly all the corps are sending their troops, weapons, engineers and scientists little by little so the PCA won't notice and kill all of them when only first couple of troops are landing in Rubicon.
About clearing Grid 135, you can get to your crash site to get greeted by Ghost unit, with encoded comms. And in retrospect, it's clear you are being watched from this early on.
It's here, we've come so far on this journey and yet so much further to go! Thank you again for another lore video, this series is really special. I'm so happy people are finally getting to play a game I never could put down!
It was your videos of the original few Armored Core games, and the recommendation of a friend of mine who's a fan themselves, that inspired me to try this game. I'm not a FromSoftware or Armored Core fan, but I'd give AC 6 a solid 8/10. Would recommend.
Actually, Ayre is using an Ephemera AC to fight alongside 621 against Allmind. Interestingly, Allmind seems to be using a modified Sol (not Echo) in the second phase of the fight. Edit: Echo is the name of Ayre’s Ephemera AC. Sol is the name of the final boss of Fires of Raven and Allmind paths.
The Sol Allmind found sucked then bc it was worse then the one Ayre used. Imo Fires of Rubicon was the hardest ending but maybe it was because it was the first ending I played.
I've been looking forward to this one and you didn't disappoint!! If you wanted more proof that Kate is actually Allmind, take a look at the Integration Arena you unlock in NG+, more specifically Mind BETA or B-1. It's Kate's AC. Interestingly, the Allmind AC we see in the first phase is also fought in the Integration Arena, Mind GAMMA or y-1. Also slight note: The unit Ayre pilots in the Fires of Raven ending is not the Echo, but a part of the IBIS series, the SOL 644. It's actually briefly seen in the cutscene after we are captured by Arquebus along with the HAL 826.
To add on to this, I am reasonably sure that Allmind/G5's final machine is also the Sol 644, in different colors, (including Allminds glow instead of Ayre's) and fitted with weapons made by Allmind instead of the original Institute weapons. (It does energy damage, not Coral damage as in the Ayre battle.) The frame has the same shape (the head is especially distinctive) and it is seen from behind during the cutscene talking about how Arquebus seized RRI weapons, equipped with the coral based weaponry Ayre used in the Fire's ending (as well as in it's original color scheme). This would explain both where that weapon was during the Die is Cast ending, and why you can't get that ending unless you fight the Echo in the arena. Without that fight for Ayre to experience piloting, and posit that the Echo must actually exist out there somewhere, her intervening with Echo during the fight would come out of nowhere. Ayre might not even think to go grab it to help you, and fighting 2 C-Spiders along with the Sol 644 (Allmind fitting) would be a rather difficult task. One thing I appreciate is how consistent all three Ibis weapons are tracked in the narrative. The Hal (Ibis 03) is only glimpsed in the Fires of Raven ending, as it's pilot was intended to be Walter and with him dead Carla likely couldn't find it. The Cel (Ibis 02) was used by the Coral as a final line of defense and falls in Chapter 4 in all timelines, likely being irreparable without a reactor. Ayre uses Sol 644 (Ibis 01) in the Fires ending, Arquebus doesn't have a way to control it in the Liberator ending, and Hal (Ibis 03) is thrown by Snail at 621 for revenge in that ending. Allmind acquires and uses the Sol 644 in the Die is Cast, destroys the Hal (Ibis 03) under Walter's control in it's ending. It's neatly tied up no matter the route. The Echo is just an Ephemera Frame with advanced Coral weaponry, presumably left in storage in the other two endings. (I mean, if you are in Ayre's place, are _you_ taking the Echo or the Sol 644 to face 621 in battle?)
Here to chip in a little on the final ending [Alea Lacta Est] It seems to be strongly suggested that it is not just "Coral" that gets propagated thought the universe, but more specifically *YOU and AYRE* You wake up in a different AC from what you finally ended the game with, and on a seemingly different planet note that Ayre is calling you specifically to wake up and you hear the water yourself before waking up to me it seems to also end on a more adventurous and hopeful note, instead of the more potentially fearful one you suggest (the reasons will become clear as I explain) 1. You wake up in a Different AC, and it clearly is supposed to be *You* (aka. 621/Raven) as Ayre calls *You specifically* awake, and the AC rises from the waters. - Note that the AC in the cutscene is different from the one you end the game with, and as AC6 has used YOUR AC for every cutscene up until now, it would be quite a reach to say this was a simple oversight - However, this AC being the same build as your starter AC, and Ayre calling you out specifically is supposed to tell you that this is not your own AC, but it is *YOU* , hence why you hear the water before waking up fully. this is you, but a new you, a different but same you - This strongly suggests that through your augmentation and contact with Ayre, followed by Coral release, you yourself (621/Raven) have *become part of the coral weave* and is now, to some degree, have become *one with Ayre and Coral itself* (explained further in point 3) 2. Ayre is taking up the role of COM(the AC control Computer) signified by her announcing the AC combat mode activation. While this could be taken as a sight of aggression(since Ayre is capable of piloting ACs herself), I find it much more likely that this is just how you "*roll out*" as an AC, and Ayre(more in the JP voice) sounds quite excited when exclaiming "Main System: Activating Combat mode". Followed by a more up-beat ending track, it seems much more likely that this ending is about You and Ayre(through coral release) getting propagated into the universe. an now through the mediums of ACs, explore the universe and the potential of Coral and likely even coexistence with Humanity Ayre's activation of the AC combat mode is likely more akin to her saying *"Lets go Raven!"* - also note that You and Ayre are the only real candidates to pilot ACs, though even then You would need COM to pilot it. and taking that into account, it is quite odd that you would be the first AC to wake up/rise from the waters considering Ayre (or any other of the Coral minds if they can) could have piloted and woken up all the other ACs in the field - This makes me think that Ayre is quite happy to take the role of COM for you, and follow you (or well... you's) towards whatever future you lead towards - Coral Rubiconians have no body, and you are an AC pilot now without a body within the coral weave, so it is quite fitting that you yourself would take up the form of an AC, with Ayre following you and supporting you as the COM in whatever journey you take on together. Ayre does enjoy your company quite a bit afteral (she swore to 'support' you wherever you go, and that ECM fog control device isn't going anywhere) 3. *ALLMIND* says during the boss fight that they believes the brothers and sisters of Ayre (i.e. Coral) will *"Welcome"* them. this is an odd statement, since Coral as a society(if you can call it that) would have no reason to "Welcome" them if they are the ones being set free, it would be humanity and the world as a whole that's supposed to welcome them (Coral) - This suggests that ALLMIND's true intent was not simply the release of coral, but to *become part of it themselves* much like how Raven, through Ayre became part of the coral weave themselves, and become propagated and omi-present, explaining why they would be the ones to be welcomed, specifically into the Coral weave - It is also worth mentioning that ALLMIND seems to have something akin to blue/cyan Coral, which both their own ACs and Sea-Spiders seemed to be powered by, signified by the small particles flying around them just like Coral does during cutscenes and the battle - this could suggest that ALLMIND managed to mimic coral's characteristics, which could explain how they planned to become part of it, by becoming just like coral, becoming something that can mix with coral - Alternatively, ALLMIND could be Seria, the coral anomaly that Dolmayan made contact with, integrating herself so thoroughly into man-made machines that it changed the nature of the coral that made her up, but this seems odd, as this would not explain why she would need Ayre to trigger coral release, but it could be that she has mutated too much, that she can no longer do it herself ex: I personally believe ALLMIND managed to mimic coral, by basically copying and converting human minds into a form similar to Coral Coral is clearly modeled after neural networks (the brain kind), so mimicking it by basically creating an artificial version of it from extracted human minds seems reasonable This would also explain how Iguazu is seemingly living within ALLMIND, and how he talks about all the other You killed. his mind has basically been extracted from his previous body, and he was chosen to take you on as he had the strongest hatrad towards you out of anyone ALLMIND had absorbed the floating blue/cyan Coral particles are most likely more artificial coral created with the minds of the foes you killed up till this point though, most likely these are all augmented AC pilots, as that is probably the only way ALLMIND could access their minds and extract htem this all leads me to conclude that the [Alea Lacta Est] ending is about embracing the potential of coral, and the different way of existence it signifies shown most clearly by your own integration into the coral weave, and going beyond the human form and existence, towards a new form of your own humanity and it's experiences You and Ayre set out to explore the universe and and what this all entails together
That's a well explained thought on the matter, i respect this. However i just can't help shake the feeling this ending is a little more dark. But i think that's the joys of FSW games, we each have our own answers to what these endings mean to use.
@@armoredcorelore Thanks! I can also see why you arrived at your own conclusion. the idea of an omni-present and ever expanding intelligence taking over old war-machines is quite the potential for a bloody outcome. not to mention the idea of going outside the realms of humanity is potentially horrifying It's probably more to do with our own world views when it comes to this matter, Someone like me accepts the value and potential of going beyond the human experience, to see what more the universe has to offer, all the risks included On the other hand, you may find the thought daunting, or even terrifying of losing humanity, or letting something beyond humanity loose. it can be a seed of disaster it's as Dolmaya and O'keeffe said, "you don't want the Coral release", and more so for O'Keefe, "Shovel down your bland rations. Slurp down your coffee-flavored sludge. Sure it sucks - but that's being human" He values being 'Human' and I can see why many would feel the same
@@RyukagiRen In a way, Yes! Though I guess it's more like you and Ayre are part of a singular yet vast consciousness. Youn can either say You join Ayre as part of the coral weave, and you journey together. Or that You and Ayre have merged with coral to such a degree, that You, Ayre and coral are now basically one and the same
It was quite a ride. I see a lot of potential for things after the Liberation path in particular. Expansions building upon this game's story and parts selection would be perfect after seeing this series come back swinging the way it did.
It does seem like the logical place to pick up. Allmind is still out there, the Corporations might have been pushed off of Rubicon, but they weren't destroyed. As Walter put it "Where there's Coral, there's blood."
rusty was using the upgraded steel haze when he appeared to help us in liberator of rubicon ending, you can just see how it looks, the upgraded ac called steel haze ortus is using the alba frame set while the normal steel haze uses nachtreiher set
For your incredible service covering lore for all the other armored core games, I hope your channel gets all the views. And anyone interested in armored core should check out this channels other vids! There's some awesome stories in the previous games in the series as well!
Playing AC6 as my first armored core game, i instantly fell in love with the game and franchise. Now i am looking to get AC4, For Answer, AC5, and VD for my xbox. Loved listening to your lore videos for Armored Core games, i wonders if we may get and dlc for this game as extra missions that we under take during the story on the side or as parts and weapons that resemble ones from 4, FA, 5 and VD.
Welcome to the nest then fellow raven/ lynxs as other ac fans would say. I am glad to hear you love the game and that you are looking to get more into the series it has a lot to offer in terms of story and how different some of the games are. I should also say thank you for the kind words about my videos and i hope to hear from you more soon. As for dlc well that is very much a wait and see game i feel, we got dlc for 5 and verdict day so fingers crossed.
I like your use of real world similarities. In that vein, the 3rd ending takes the concept of Ray Kurzweil's Singularity, transcending biology, and combines it with the astrophysics Singularity, a point of infinite density. A beautiful, and I believe, intentional artistic pairing. Neil Degrasse Tyson actually gripes to Kurzweil himself on a podcast about using that word.
Neil is a perfect example of how being chronically online can turn the most brilliant of minds into an irrational antisocial jerkass. Neil from ten or even twenty years ago would have wholeheartedly agreed with a sentiment like that. Definitely no co relation pure coincidence 🤔.
@@lucamckenn5932 Well I'll be honest I lack the knowledge to understand a lot of things like this and who this neil is. To me while I love ac and its lore, its still a piece of fiction that sometimes is just wacky and fun.
Appreciate the lore vid and background info. I still have to play the game, so I can't listen further than the start to avoid spoilers. But I'm pretty hyped to dive into the rest of your content once I've finished it.
テ～へへ～ nice ^_^ it's like a full length documentary. I hope to see more of the short profile/examination videos on characters, ACs, Corporations etc, like your classic vids.
While ALLMIND does control most of the cloaked MTs we fight, the Xylem city does say that it is "deploying antigens" when we fight them there, meaning that the ones we fight in that mission are part of the city defenses.
The lore on that AC design is especially neat. The Echo was an RRI design specifically mimicing how Coral controls itself, essentially deliberately made in a manner easily controlled by Coral. The Ibis 01 used by Ayre in the Fires of Raven ending wasn't, but was designed to prevent disasters and is being put to it's intended use there. Though I admit, it's a little morbid to consider Ayre is essentially firing parts of her brain at the enemy the whole time. But the Ibis 02 CEL from chapter 4 was doing the same the whole time, so I guess we can consider akin to finding trimming your nails or cutting your hair morbid.
I actually think the liberator of rubicon ending is the best in terms of writing, but I’m very curious what the canon ending will be. Guess we gotta wait.
Thank-you for this gift! Do you think there's content enough for any more AC6 videos? Or might you have to wait till things like the manual / pseudo lore book comes out in November?
Oh i do i promise. Now i can do smaller videos on the corporations their members and talk about thier acs its going to be fun. The book will only give me more to work on in the future.
I really miss your video man~ Fires of Raven is my canon ending imo, I became a Dark raven and everything I touched turns into ashes! I will provide tidbits, references and little details in game later on your next video. There are a lot of them in AC6
It's good to see you back making an Armored Core lore video and a nice explaining video on Armored Core 6 Fires of Rubicon by the way what are your thoughts on Armored Core 6 what do You like the most and the least in Armored Core 6 and looking forward for your next armored core lore video what you choose of the topic of Armored Core lore is ok for me. make sure to take breaks and the time you need for making Armored core lore video Your health is essential and take breaks wherever you want your channel, your choice. :3 :>
Thank you for your kind words and concern Kevinton4373. Honestly i have just come back from my two week away from the channel to play ac6 and chill out for a bit. But i knew after i finished the game three ending i had to come back to making lore videos.
It very well could be. This was just how i felt about the ending and really i am always happy to hear how others see endings as that is what makes ac lore fun.
I have to admit, not only was this a great review of the story of AC 6, but I think your interpretation of ending 3 is a meaningful one. With Coral everywhere and able to think for itself, making decisions as individuals? Chaos is going to ensue. Some Coral intelligences are sure to want vengeance, or power, and take up arms. But, humans fought before the discovery of Coral, and adding a few more combatants to the field isn't going to change the fundamentals. One thing is for sure: C4 621 - Raven, and Ayre are going to be on those battlefields. Just as they would be in the Liberator of Rubicon ending, just as an independent rather than a symbol of Rubiconian independence.
Thank you for your kind praise especially since this video does have mistakes in it. Still as for that ending i think i just felt something was off about it i could be wrong and maybe coral and humans become one but then as you said they would have their own thoughts and feeling especially mixed in with some human feelings maybe war will start again not by the hands of human but these new beings.
Yay !you made it fam! Hope you get to have some lore for some individual characters and c weapons and that smug ALLMIND. See ya out there Raven..... Also...CORAL REALEASE!!
Just finished the true ending run, the true final boss was one hell of a fight but i made it, i can say... i have flown high on borrowed wings, great game and thanks for covering the lore of ac, keep up the good work
You know I just had a thought, Cleaner's location implies that it protects the access to the upper levels, or maybe it actually *protects RaD from incursion from the upper levels,* seeing as they do not control that area, but instead the PCA have it completely locked down. Is it possible the PCA made multiple attempts through this area to take down RaD?
Possible since RaD mts mechs made it into the black market so they are supplying weapons in a sense and we do see that at one point the PCA do invade Carla's grind and push her back to the watchpoint. A good thought, i like it.
Man, that last ending is brutal. I feel that the second one was better, as it allowed Ayre to grieve the loss of her family at the hands of the humans, yet be granted hope via 621 leading to a prominent future as she tells Raven that they can rebuild Rubicon 3. Ending 3 feels more like Ayre only grows as hateful as Iguasu, and her conscience is further tainted as 621 listens to his final thoughts before death - leading her to actively make the choice to resort to revenge once the Coral Release concludes. Damn..... thanks for making these explanations man. I now love FromSoftware to an even greater degree.
I admit i share the same feelings as you about the endings, the liberation ending is almost that chance for people and coral to find a way to work together. The third ending as you said is coral freedom being granted only for them to do perhaps what father feared and take revenge humanity for what they did to her people.
The last ending I couldn't really understand. What makes you think Ayre became resentful and the Coral seeking revenge? I genuinely don't understand, it feels too open ended. To me, it felt "hopeful" in that this was a new age where Coral evolved, perhaps fused with humans, but at the same time it felt creepy like humans were lost in the way we've always existed.
@ktvx.94 I mean, you're right. Humans and Coral COULD have fused. But that old dude only said symbiosis was possible, not guaranteed. That meant that it could take centuries before they bonded. The reason I say it was a bad ending was due to how somber that final endings cut scene was. The narrator didn't speak with any tidings of hope in their message, and Ayre immediately issuing Order 66 as soon as Corals are able to operate Normals? That's literally turning the story back to full circle for me. In the end Ayre endured all that fighting with 621 only to choose Humanity's end as the only option. There may have been hope at first, but all that conflict and V. V Iguasu's entire rant about being dealt the worst hand turned her mind, bro. What would you do in that situation when all you see is despair, y'know?
@@kitsunekimchi118I guess the thing with the third ending is that we only know two things. Some sort of widespread coral dispersal occured, and something linked to corral is able to pilot ACs. We do not know if this is because coral actually bonded to their individual pilots (which would be my current favored choice) or override the ACs directly which would lead to the credence of a darker ending. The thing is nowhere is Ayre ever done anything remotely hostile against humanity unless you force her hand in doing so, it would make little sense for her to turn to that option right after coral release. Especially since symbiosis would have already been obtained at this point. My guess is that symbiosis was not complete, or resulted in some unforseen damage or consequences which means conflict could be right around the corner. Imagine if the corral release specifically bonded coral to AC units (both with pilots and without) and now lead to humanity seeing these recently transcended individuals seemingly without control as a threat to themselves? Definitely seems a lot deeper than just coral deciding that murder is the new order of the day.
I would also like to add something that I think ads to the depth of the plot. Carla hacks Allmind archives and tips Walter about the watchpoint. The conflict between the Overseers and Allmind existist for a longer time that you believe at first. In the conversations between Carla and Walter she refers sarcastically to our "friends" which is code name for Allmind, also proof of this is the previous conflict between Sulla and Walter's hounds. There are 2 logs in watchpoint mission that infer that Sulla was meant to release Ayre. By defeating him you basically took his place in the plot and in a way delay Allmind plans for coral release. Also his name is not chosen by chance by the developers, Sulla was the one who laid the ground for Caesar to cast the dye (wiki about it), his AC name is called ENTANGLE. For me personally the only real mystery in the plot is c3-291, Allmind reveals during V.III O'Keeffe mission briefing the 4 candidates, Sulla, you the player, Iguazu and this C3-291
I did =) It was nice to play a new ac game just blowing stuff up and experiencing the story before i torn into it for its lore. Expect Ibis that boss made me walk away for a spell.
Its so frustrating not being able to watch this yet since i haven't finished my NG++ run T-T I'll check back at the end of the week coz by that time I'll finish the game, thanks for the amazing content!
Actually I finished the game already using brute force, nightfall/snowball, byleth, ashe the frost archer etc now I have to find all the combat logs and s rank every missions to earn the platinum trophy
@@armoredcorelore It was a pretty surreal experience, and I never expected to have trouble in the allmind fight when I was breezing through a lot of the other missions. I committed to not use meta weapons and be "lore accurate" by using coral weapons but man, managing your AP and ammo count on that fight was tough.
Just finished my 3rd playthrough for the final ending. After 3 playthroughs and all the alternate intricacies, I'm a little perplexed, since following a plotline between mercilessly pounding on anything mobile was a bit tricky. I took some notes, but hoping to have some new light shed through vids like this. Cheers!
I really love the lore of armored core because the PCA are pretty much the good guys with the coolest LCs and HCs with superior technology and resources but are taken down by a badass mercenary with pure skill like a gundam main character.
Was excited for the game for the gameplay and visuals. But the story and characters hooked me fierce. After three playthroughs, I feel I got the gist of it all but really appreciate this detail and breakdown!
@@armoredcorelore just hearing the missions told to me in a linear fashion helps a lot, since when I'm playing I'm mostly just furiously blasting away and the story gets lost
And that is neat, i think that what make ac games good. Its the choice to either dive deep in or enjoy what is there. I am glad to hear your enjoyed ac6.
Love your videos man. I was wondering what your take is when it comes to how to interpret the endings. I see a lot of the community looking at the literal outcomes of the endings rather than than what they narratively represent, which was a bit surprising since I assumed they were meant to be processed like endings of Dark Souls, more of a philosophical question rather than a literal outcome. For example the Fires of Rubicon ending's narrative points to this idea of putting the dead to rest, as evidenced by the fact Coral appears to literally be the psychic gestalt of the dead Rubiconians. It also reinforces the idea with Walter and Carla trying to make amends for his father's work, even at the cost of his their own lives life. I personally interpreted the FoR ending as asking the player whether its better to cut ties with the past regardless of how much it hurts. The third ending is obviously a little different and I'm not fully sure how to parse that one yet. I suppose its just a matter of how you interact creative works like this but I'd be curious to hear how someone who's been with the AC series for a long time processes them.
Thank you for the kind words and I'd be happy to share my personal thoughts on the endings as you say it depends on how you look at them. To me the fires of raven ending is the idea that the coral while a great source of advancement to humankind, it came with this price of taking away the human element in a lot of people. Walter father as you said lost his mind, all the augmented pilots lost a part of themselves and the list goes on. In the end having seen all these lives lost, the overseers group knew coral does more damage then good as such it had to go. Erasing something that advances and damages humankind is very much the same as the kojima particles, only the corporations of ac4 did not want to wipe out kojima until it became clear the earth they wanted to be kings of was dying meaning they'd be the king of nothing but a poisoned world. You could also tie all the ai of past games into this as well for to some the ravens then was going kill of humanity if they killed the ai controlling everything that allow humanity to live after the great destruction. The liberation front ending to me is more the status quo being kept the same. Everything just returns to how it was. There is no change to the coral and while it may seem the front has won someone will always want power and so this cycle of battle, freedom, battle will go on and on until a change is forced to happen. After all the corporations may have lost a lot but they are not down and out. I like to think this ending is very much like the ending of Now the cast is dye route to me is very much a message of with a big change, there is a lot of sacrifices. Allmind is ruthless in taking out all who oppose it, people are nothing but pawns and once their purpose is done they are no longer need. Its cold and calculating plan like a business plan to improve profit they are willing to kill the jobs of people to pave this golden path of money. The big change comes at a price and if 621 is willing to pay that price they begin this new age where we presume coral is now the dominant race or that it is now free from its bonds and can do what it like causing a new power to enter. To me this is very much the orca ending of acfa a lot of people have to die for this new world and in the end only a few will benefit from it. Hope this was enough for my thoughts on the ending.
Something is driving me crazy; You refer to LCs as Lances and HCs as Heavy Lances/lancers. I had heard it as Light Cavalry and Heavy Cavalry. Is this a difference in localization? The video is wonderful so far, it's really nice to have such a comprehensive overview of all of the events and logs that can be easily referenced, I'm sure this won't be my only viewing.
I feel the third ending is less dark than you believe it here. I personally see it as a "new dawn" type ending where a new era for humanity driven by coral begins. The AC that first wakes up is obviously 621/Raven as she calls to them to wake up and witness the new day. The other ACs are a genuine mystery as to who is piloting them. It may be coral beings or it could be dead AC pilots we met waking back up as some of them looked familiar to those we met. I personally believe these are resurrected AC pilots who now also have coral voices of their own. In regards to the "entering combat mode" I have no idea. I mean we are on a random water world that was probably a battlefield in a different war so perhaps this is simply Ayre being cautious since we are surrounded by random ACs, some of which have guns. Besides, I don't believe Ayre to be as malicious as you suspect. Her character is far more optimistic and trusting than most in the world of AC. Her driving character motive was to see coral and humanity coexist. It wouldn't make sense for her to just flip to suddenly wanting to destroy humanity out of simple vengeance.
That is fair, i think a lot of people have different ideas about the third ending and that's great it allows for conversations like this and for healthy debate. To me it just felt like ayre was too quick to jump into combat mode and it just did not sit right with me, again only my thoughts and i think until we have an official document or book its a good conversation to have.
I took it to mean we can get back to merc work together. She can be found saying in chapter 2 that she is quite fond of the routine, as well as during your initial run of Xylem, where she enjoys being out with our pilot protagonist. Her voice here also reminds me of the voice of the ACs' systems in AC5 and Verdict Day.
That's so interesting. I didn't think much of Ayre's final line but it makes more sense thinking about the coral ppl getting revenge. Definitely makes that ending a lot more interesting than what I initially thought.
I hope you enjoy, i will say there is some mispronunciations and for some reason i was convicted rusty was not in a ac that he clearly was in this video.
The AC Ayre pilots at the end of ending 3 isn't the same as the FoR ending, She's piloting the prototype AC Allmind is making from the Arena fights you do while in the Fires ending it's an Ibis series AC
Thumb Dolmayan could have been Dr. Nagai's other assistant for one he had access to the Rubicon Research Institutes research, secondly the male assistant is never mentioned by Nagai again after his 3rd note which is when he could have started dosing, third Thumb Dolmayan is in possession of Institute technology as if we look at his AC we can see that he is using an Institute coral generator, and lastly from what Ring Freddie says Thumb Dolmayan seems to know what Walters intentions are suggesting him having some knowledge about Overseer.
I would agree these are some good points after all he lied to the voice in his head as it seems he knew to talk to seria he would be killing off her kind to do so. But we also have to take into the accounts of the professor about the boy's father who coral research made him mad and took his mother life. Ah ac lore you make me think.
From the first of Dolmayan's writings it is clear that he has a almost religious zeal when it comes to coral and from the second it makes clear that he will say thing he doesn't believe also hearing voices in your head hardly qualifies as being sane. one other thing is an assistant for Doctor Nagai he would have had easy access to pure coral which by the Comms Record: Doser Ravings has a lot stronger effect on the brain. at the very least even if he wasn't Nagai's assistant he did at least worked for the Institute for some time.
@naxergss2625 Yeah but before we get a sequel 6th gen fromsoftware next game has leaked an unannounced game called spellbound and concept art of the game has leaked and the game will be out by January to april 2025 release window
Thank you for your fantastic work! It's great to see armored core being back and expecially meaning more videos from you coming out! But i would like to correct you on the Alea lacta Est coral release ending, it's not just that coral is spread torought the stars and having the ability to take over machines and having more power. The ending also transformed humanity into beings who are no longer bound to their single human bodies and flesh, turning them sort of into coral human beings. Both Thumb Dolmayan and V3 O'Keefe stated the same, O'Keefe stated in his termination mission that coral release would mean that humans would be transformed into different beings and that the miserable sad lifes they have now would no longer exist, while Dolmayan said that it would bring an end to the current human race and also in a reporting stated that humans could come to the same plane as beings like ayre are.
If gen 4 pilots are known to be emotionless, iguazu must have been one hell of an exception
Some say his augmentation went wrong, that's why he's so unstable.
I could say he's just salty, but in truth i believe his debt lead him to have as other have suggested back street style augmentation. Where is debt collectors took what body parts they could for his debt and left him with most likely dug out augments from fallen pilots.
I think Riley from the boondocks explains it best "he a bitch nigga"
I think its not that they are emotionless but that they normally don't show it, and maybe dont really understand feelings well. Iguazu just got so mad at 621, he became an angry revengehobo.
So, they have a different interpretation of emotions (which could be seen as unnaturally high hatred or not having emotions), 621 barely (if ever) talks, it seems like a side effect of gen 4 augmentation is just autism of some sort
That quote from Ayre in the Allmind route ending made me shed a tear.
"Main system, activating combat mode"
I found that line so damn cool, but sad at the same time. I love this game so much ❤
The Walter one about us finding a friend made cry a little,not gonna lie.
It reminded me of Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII.
Let's all honor the sacrifice of the Dafeng Student Pilot. His deaths have allowed countless Ravens to test their builds.
A true buddy, always there for us.
Shots out for "Tester AC" on the AC test arena as well. That one knows hell no one else does.
But all he wanted was a callsign of his own. You monsters... But I guess I'm a monster as well.
He’d still be alive rn if y’all niggas ain’t gas em up
Yeah he's also my main source of income : >84'000 per cycle :D
LMAO.. finish your playthrough first.
Did any other AC lore fans shake their head in joyous disbelief at all the visual to the series past? Finding the institute AC wreck in Ayre's survey mission was like seeing a fossilized disorder unit to me! Stuff like the base Balem and Arquebus cores being straight up AC3 designs reimagined, the fat AC legs that Snail uses, and even how the PCA are like the earth special forces. And lets not forget how the plot is being orchestrated by an Ai. Visually and thematically, Fromsoft knows how to speak to us long time AC fans, even 10 years after the last title.
PCA is basically what OAE can be if they're not being bullied by Mirage all the time.
@@varnix1006 Oh wow, I hadn't even thought of that, but it's true. OAE with overwhelming firepower is pretty much what the PCA was.
As of writing this, I finished the NG++ ending last night. I have put as many of the pieces together as I could on my own, and I feel like I did alright, much better than I've been able to when I've played Dark Souls in all honesty. Now to see just how much I missed! Thanks for making this series, I've learned a lot of cool info on a series I started learning about and getting into in the past few months!
Its a pleasure to read this and i am glad to hear about your putting together what you could. I think that is what makes lore hunting so much fun, there is so much to learn and to learn from others.
The final ending is definitely one of the strangest ones. It very reminiscent of other Japanese Transhumanist stories, where the ultimate evolution of people is some sorta energy-based life form, semi-immortal, nearly incorporeal with infinite potential. I wouldn't call it all that but its also not as hopeful as Liberation. It just leaves a lot of questions and understandably its confusing for everyone, especially thanks to how Ayre words her speech.
What I do think though is that, for the most part, what made Thumb and O'Keffe so afraid is that there's no way to know what will happen when Symbiosis is achieved. The consequence they've been mentioning. The Convergence is terrifying in the sense that, until it happens, the results are as unknowable and as frightening as just dying. The potential to lose yourself, to lose what makes you human (and in turn YOU) can put anyone off. People can become robots with their brains infinitely preserved in a their steel skulls but that just sounds so foreign and strange that it puts people off. And they'd rather live a miserable existence if it means being human.
In a sense its very similar to End of Evangelion but compared to that, turning into OJ, you keep individuality. You keep your consciousness and you keep your dreams. You just lose your corporeal form. Hell, what Allmind want is prolly closer to EoE than what actually did happen. But in both stories (at least for the OG Anime ending), this symbiotic existence is not all that so bad once you're finally there at the other side.
Whether or not its just the dead or all who live turn into Coral-like lifeforms is unknown but I see the ending in a positive light, as with Coral now disseminated across the stars, there's effectively an afterlife. 621 doesn't need to go through surgery, get used again to being a normal human, with normal needs who has to eventually die. Maybe he can possess a smaller machine one day and live a civilian life, being an energy based lifeform gives you that option. And any other human is effectively guaranteed an afterlife in the Coral.
And for the pilots who are now their ACs, they can enjoy fighting each other for years, facing Songbirds and Zimmermans for all-
-y'know what this is hell after all.
So coral is the lifestream from FF7?
Interesting, i think this what i like about this ending the most it allows for conversations like this and exploring ideas that others have in a healthy way. I like this, its good for lore.
@@JanJansen985 Considering Ayre and the consequenc of the Fires of Ibis, yep. Pretty much.
@@armoredcorelore Its definitely fascinating. Its not clear cut good or bad but its interesting.
Maybe it just combines all the humans with coral beings to create Homo Coraliens.
Correction: Rusty is piloting Ortus regardless of which ending you choose, and he is the one who says “Let’s see what this AC can do.”
Oh, and Ayre doesn’t fight you in Echo, she uses a separate AC that’s part of the Ibis series. IB-07 SOL 644.
Thank you for the corrections.
Rubicon reminded me alot of the world of Blame! With how endless and unavoidable the giant industrial structures are almost like how the megacity just goes on forever
From the video you already noticed ACL
Mention after the fire of Ibis all the government and corps are abandoned the rubicon until someone leaks the information about coral is still exists in the Rubicon 3. So in order to not look obvious corporation given an excuse as they will rebuild the rubicon as a production planet so the Rubiconians will not starve to death. That is why you see all the mega structures that cover the sky.
But secretly all the corps are sending their troops, weapons, engineers and scientists little by little so the PCA won't notice and kill all of them when only first couple of troops are landing in Rubicon.
I have a Toha Heavy Industries decal slapped on my AC bc of this lol
@@CEOGrindset based
It's very close to Arrakis also
@@ratman262 out of curiosity what is arrakis? Haven't heard of where it's from or what it is
About clearing Grid 135, you can get to your crash site to get greeted by Ghost unit, with encoded comms. And in retrospect, it's clear you are being watched from this early on.
Still so much to learn.
It's here, we've come so far on this journey and yet so much further to go! Thank you again for another lore video, this series is really special. I'm so happy people are finally getting to play a game I never could put down!
Oh we have so much ahead of us and behind us too with so much lore to explore and enjoy in all the games.
Awesome summary, as always. Hearing the track play after getting all the endings was pretty epic!
Thank you for the kind words, however there was some name mistakes here so i hope to learn from this and not repeat in future videos.
@@armoredcorelore You meant pronunciation of some of the names?
@@WhiteLongSword7 That be the one.
It was your videos of the original few Armored Core games, and the recommendation of a friend of mine who's a fan themselves, that inspired me to try this game. I'm not a FromSoftware or Armored Core fan, but I'd give AC 6 a solid 8/10. Would recommend.
I appreciate hearing this and i think your pretty fair with the score there.
Actually, Ayre is using an Ephemera AC to fight alongside 621 against Allmind.
Interestingly, Allmind seems to be using a modified Sol (not Echo) in the second phase of the fight.
Edit: Echo is the name of Ayre’s Ephemera AC. Sol is the name of the final boss of Fires of Raven and Allmind paths.
Echo is the name of Ayre's Ephemera, you mean Allmind uses a modified SOL-644 Ibis unit.
@@voxlity I see, thanks
Thank you for the corrections.
The Sol Allmind found sucked then bc it was worse then the one Ayre used.
Imo Fires of Rubicon was the hardest ending but maybe it was because it was the first ending I played.
@@Konveczfires of rubicon was my second ending and it was still harder than other two
I've been looking forward to this one and you didn't disappoint!!
If you wanted more proof that Kate is actually Allmind, take a look at the Integration Arena you unlock in NG+, more specifically Mind BETA or B-1. It's Kate's AC.
Interestingly, the Allmind AC we see in the first phase is also fought in the Integration Arena, Mind GAMMA or y-1.
Also slight note: The unit Ayre pilots in the Fires of Raven ending is not the Echo, but a part of the IBIS series, the SOL 644. It's actually briefly seen in the cutscene after we are captured by Arquebus along with the HAL 826.
I appreciate the feedback and i am glad your enjoyed.
To add on to this, I am reasonably sure that Allmind/G5's final machine is also the Sol 644, in different colors, (including Allminds glow instead of Ayre's) and fitted with weapons made by Allmind instead of the original Institute weapons. (It does energy damage, not Coral damage as in the Ayre battle.) The frame has the same shape (the head is especially distinctive) and it is seen from behind during the cutscene talking about how Arquebus seized RRI weapons, equipped with the coral based weaponry Ayre used in the Fire's ending (as well as in it's original color scheme).
This would explain both where that weapon was during the Die is Cast ending, and why you can't get that ending unless you fight the Echo in the arena. Without that fight for Ayre to experience piloting, and posit that the Echo must actually exist out there somewhere, her intervening with Echo during the fight would come out of nowhere. Ayre might not even think to go grab it to help you, and fighting 2 C-Spiders along with the Sol 644 (Allmind fitting) would be a rather difficult task.
One thing I appreciate is how consistent all three Ibis weapons are tracked in the narrative. The Hal (Ibis 03) is only glimpsed in the Fires of Raven ending, as it's pilot was intended to be Walter and with him dead Carla likely couldn't find it. The Cel (Ibis 02) was used by the Coral as a final line of defense and falls in Chapter 4 in all timelines, likely being irreparable without a reactor. Ayre uses Sol 644 (Ibis 01) in the Fires ending, Arquebus doesn't have a way to control it in the Liberator ending, and Hal (Ibis 03) is thrown by Snail at 621 for revenge in that ending. Allmind acquires and uses the Sol 644 in the Die is Cast, destroys the Hal (Ibis 03) under Walter's control in it's ending.
It's neatly tied up no matter the route. The Echo is just an Ephemera Frame with advanced Coral weaponry, presumably left in storage in the other two endings. (I mean, if you are in Ayre's place, are _you_ taking the Echo or the Sol 644 to face 621 in battle?)
i like to imagine Ayre is just a really unfortunate Ruby (what i call a single coral) who just so happened to fly into out ear during the explosion.
Ah that does make me feel sorry for her, then again it also makes me think Thumbs coral voiced ended up being put there up his nose or elsewhere.
@@armoredcorelore Depending on how exactly dosers partake of coral, it could be just about anywhere.
Ruby sounds like the N word but for Coral-Rubiconians.
Oh come on, ‘Armored Lore’ is RIGHT there!
Can't wait for you to breakdown each characters that were present in this story specially V.I Freud that guy is still a mystery to me.
Like how could a guy "leading" the augmented corps of Arquebus have 0 augmentations well he is the best pilot in the Vespers but yeah... 100% human
Its going to be fun =)
35:22 Or option 3, Raven accepts the deal and the then immediately suckerpunches V7 in the face, killing him and ending the mission.
If i added anymore options to this video it would be even longer ha ha.
Here to chip in a little on the final ending [Alea Lacta Est]
It seems to be strongly suggested that it is not just "Coral" that gets propagated thought the universe, but more specifically *YOU and AYRE*
You wake up in a different AC from what you finally ended the game with, and on a seemingly different planet
note that Ayre is calling you specifically to wake up and you hear the water yourself before waking up
to me it seems to also end on a more adventurous and hopeful note, instead of the more potentially fearful one you suggest (the reasons will become clear as I explain)
1. You wake up in a Different AC, and it clearly is supposed to be *You* (aka. 621/Raven) as Ayre calls *You specifically* awake, and the AC rises from the waters.
- Note that the AC in the cutscene is different from the one you end the game with, and as AC6 has used YOUR AC for every cutscene up until now, it would be quite a reach to say this was a simple oversight
- However, this AC being the same build as your starter AC, and Ayre calling you out specifically is supposed to tell you that this is not your own AC, but it is *YOU* , hence why you hear the water before waking up fully. this is you, but a new you, a different but same you
- This strongly suggests that through your augmentation and contact with Ayre, followed by Coral release, you yourself (621/Raven) have *become part of the coral weave*
and is now, to some degree, have become *one with Ayre and Coral itself* (explained further in point 3)
2. Ayre is taking up the role of COM(the AC control Computer) signified by her announcing the AC combat mode activation.
While this could be taken as a sight of aggression(since Ayre is capable of piloting ACs herself), I find it much more likely that this is just how you "*roll out*" as an AC, and Ayre(more in the JP voice) sounds quite excited when exclaiming "Main System: Activating Combat mode".
Followed by a more up-beat ending track, it seems much more likely that this ending is about You and Ayre(through coral release) getting propagated into the universe. an now through the mediums of ACs, explore the universe and the potential of Coral and likely even coexistence with Humanity
Ayre's activation of the AC combat mode is likely more akin to her saying *"Lets go Raven!"*
- also note that You and Ayre are the only real candidates to pilot ACs, though even then You would need COM to pilot it. and taking that into account, it is quite odd that you would be the first AC to wake up/rise from the waters considering Ayre (or any other of the Coral minds if they can) could have piloted and woken up all the other ACs in the field
- This makes me think that Ayre is quite happy to take the role of COM for you, and follow you (or well... you's) towards whatever future you lead towards
- Coral Rubiconians have no body, and you are an AC pilot now without a body within the coral weave, so it is quite fitting that you yourself would take up the form of an AC, with Ayre following you and supporting you as the COM in whatever journey you take on together.
Ayre does enjoy your company quite a bit afteral (she swore to 'support' you wherever you go, and that ECM fog control device isn't going anywhere)
3. *ALLMIND* says during the boss fight that they believes the brothers and sisters of Ayre (i.e. Coral) will *"Welcome"* them. this is an odd statement, since Coral as a society(if you can call it that) would have no reason to "Welcome" them if they are the ones being set free, it would be humanity and the world as a whole that's supposed to welcome them (Coral)
- This suggests that ALLMIND's true intent was not simply the release of coral, but to *become part of it themselves* much like how Raven, through Ayre became part of the coral weave themselves, and become propagated and omi-present, explaining why they would be the ones to be welcomed, specifically into the Coral weave
- It is also worth mentioning that ALLMIND seems to have something akin to blue/cyan Coral, which both their own ACs and Sea-Spiders seemed to be powered by, signified by the small particles flying around them just like Coral does during cutscenes and the battle
- this could suggest that ALLMIND managed to mimic coral's characteristics, which could explain how they planned to become part of it, by becoming just like coral, becoming something that can mix with coral
- Alternatively, ALLMIND could be Seria, the coral anomaly that Dolmayan made contact with, integrating herself so thoroughly into man-made machines that it changed the nature of the coral that made her up, but this seems odd, as this would not explain why she would need Ayre to trigger coral release, but it could be that she has mutated too much, that she can no longer do it herself
ex: I personally believe ALLMIND managed to mimic coral, by basically copying and converting human minds into a form similar to Coral
Coral is clearly modeled after neural networks (the brain kind), so mimicking it by basically creating an artificial version of it from extracted human minds seems reasonable
This would also explain how Iguazu is seemingly living within ALLMIND, and how he talks about all the other You killed. his mind has basically been extracted from his previous body, and he was chosen to take you on as he had the strongest hatrad towards you out of anyone ALLMIND had absorbed
the floating blue/cyan Coral particles are most likely more artificial coral created with the minds of the foes you killed up till this point
though, most likely these are all augmented AC pilots, as that is probably the only way ALLMIND could access their minds and extract htem
this all leads me to conclude that the [Alea Lacta Est] ending is about embracing the potential of coral, and the different way of existence it signifies
shown most clearly by your own integration into the coral weave, and going beyond the human form and existence, towards a new form of your own humanity and it's experiences
You and Ayre set out to explore the universe and and what this all entails together
That's a well explained thought on the matter, i respect this. However i just can't help shake the feeling this ending is a little more dark. But i think that's the joys of FSW games, we each have our own answers to what these endings mean to use.
@@armoredcorelore Thanks!
I can also see why you arrived at your own conclusion. the idea of an omni-present and ever expanding intelligence taking over old war-machines is quite the potential for a bloody outcome. not to mention the idea of going outside the realms of humanity is potentially horrifying
It's probably more to do with our own world views when it comes to this matter, Someone like me accepts the value and potential of going beyond the human experience, to see what more the universe has to offer, all the risks included
On the other hand, you may find the thought daunting, or even terrifying of losing humanity, or letting something beyond humanity loose.
it can be a seed of disaster
it's as Dolmaya and O'keeffe said, "you don't want the Coral release", and more so for O'Keefe,
"Shovel down your bland rations. Slurp down your coffee-flavored sludge. Sure it sucks - but that's being human"
He values being 'Human' and I can see why many would feel the same
so... we get a Girlfriend then??? just like Anatolia Raven
Ayre just wants to play super Mario galaxy :)
@@RyukagiRen In a way, Yes!
Though I guess it's more like you and Ayre are part of a singular yet vast consciousness.
Youn can either say You join Ayre as part of the coral weave, and you journey together.
Or that You and Ayre have merged with coral to such a degree, that You, Ayre and coral are now basically one and the same
It was quite a ride. I see a lot of potential for things after the Liberation path in particular.
Expansions building upon this game's story and parts selection would be perfect after seeing this series come back swinging the way it did.
I could too, mind you if fromsoftware did it would certainly be more videos for me so i say bring it on.
It does seem like the logical place to pick up. Allmind is still out there, the Corporations might have been pushed off of Rubicon, but they weren't destroyed. As Walter put it "Where there's Coral, there's blood."
When you kill G5 and V2 all mind says “you are now one with us” Allmind is actually talking to G5
rusty was using the upgraded steel haze when he appeared to help us in liberator of rubicon ending, you can just see how it looks, the upgraded ac called steel haze ortus is using the alba frame set while the normal steel haze uses nachtreiher set
For your incredible service covering lore for all the other armored core games, I hope your channel gets all the views.
And anyone interested in armored core should check out this channels other vids! There's some awesome stories in the previous games in the series as well!
Thank you for your very kind praise.
YOOOOO! Can't wait to see the rest of your videos on this game!
Thank you its going to be a fun time.
It’s all be leading up to this. It’s been great watching your videos leading up to now. Great job sir 👍
Thank you for your kind words and watching my videos, it makes me happy.
Man I feel for Iguazu, the man's feeling is what I'm experiencing with the people around me.
Playing AC6 as my first armored core game, i instantly fell in love with the game and franchise. Now i am looking to get AC4, For Answer, AC5, and VD for my xbox. Loved listening to your lore videos for Armored Core games, i wonders if we may get and dlc for this game as extra missions that we under take during the story on the side or as parts and weapons that resemble ones from 4, FA, 5 and VD.
Welcome to the nest then fellow raven/ lynxs as other ac fans would say. I am glad to hear you love the game and that you are looking to get more into the series it has a lot to offer in terms of story and how different some of the games are. I should also say thank you for the kind words about my videos and i hope to hear from you more soon. As for dlc well that is very much a wait and see game i feel, we got dlc for 5 and verdict day so fingers crossed.
One thing I love about this channel is that he'd always provide captions. ❤
Agreed
Let's gooo It dropped! Can't wait to binge this one today. Thanks ACL
Thank you glint, hope you enjoy.
Hell yeah, another longform Armored Core video to binge :)
Fires of Rubicon is great. That is all
Yep the story of is ac6 is a long one.
I like your use of real world similarities. In that vein, the 3rd ending takes the concept of Ray Kurzweil's Singularity, transcending biology, and combines it with the astrophysics Singularity, a point of infinite density. A beautiful, and I believe, intentional artistic pairing.
Neil Degrasse Tyson actually gripes to Kurzweil himself on a podcast about using that word.
I see well i think i know what I'll be reading up on tonight.
Neil is a perfect example of how being chronically online can turn the most brilliant of minds into an irrational antisocial jerkass. Neil from ten or even twenty years ago would have wholeheartedly agreed with a sentiment like that.
Definitely no co relation pure coincidence 🤔.
@@lucamckenn5932 Well I'll be honest I lack the knowledge to understand a lot of things like this and who this neil is. To me while I love ac and its lore, its still a piece of fiction that sometimes is just wacky and fun.
Oh, how I've waited for this moment! ❤
Thank you for the support rreckin, it was a long one this one and while mistakes were made i had fun.
Appreciate the lore vid and background info. I still have to play the game, so I can't listen further than the start to avoid spoilers. But I'm pretty hyped to dive into the rest of your content once I've finished it.
No problem. I hope you enjoy the game and come back as i look forward to hearing your thoughts.
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We finally made it, feels so long ago since I started watching your videos and when they first announced AC6, is crazy!
It has been quite the long two years, glad to be here.
テ～へへ～ nice ^_^ it's like a full length documentary.
I hope to see more of the short profile/examination videos on characters, ACs, Corporations etc, like your classic vids.
Thank ypu and I hope so too. Honestly these long videos while I like them, I prefer the smaller videos which focus on a single point of interest.
While ALLMIND does control most of the cloaked MTs we fight, the Xylem city does say that it is "deploying antigens" when we fight them there, meaning that the ones we fight in that mission are part of the city defenses.
My heart jumped the moment i saw the Title.
Keep up the great job
Thank you, i appreciate your kind words.
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS, THANK YOU ACL!!!
Thank you i hope you enjoy.
Amazing video as always man, I loved so many characters like Rusty, Michigan and even Iguazu. Lookinf forward to your future vids on AC6
Thank you for the kind words. However i did make a terrible job of this video so future one have to be bang on.
Been waiting for your lore videos on AC6, keep up the good work!
Thank you for the kind words.
1:33:42 strangely enough, no she isn't using that ac, she is using a "normal" (coral infused) institute ac
Well i thank you for correcting me. It shall only help me to improve.
there is also one or two secret that where not mentionned, but well, there not lore changing so we can pass
The lore on that AC design is especially neat. The Echo was an RRI design specifically mimicing how Coral controls itself, essentially deliberately made in a manner easily controlled by Coral. The Ibis 01 used by Ayre in the Fires of Raven ending wasn't, but was designed to prevent disasters and is being put to it's intended use there. Though I admit, it's a little morbid to consider Ayre is essentially firing parts of her brain at the enemy the whole time. But the Ibis 02 CEL from chapter 4 was doing the same the whole time, so I guess we can consider akin to finding trimming your nails or cutting your hair morbid.
I actually think the liberator of rubicon ending is the best in terms of writing, but I’m very curious what the canon ending will be. Guess we gotta wait.
Yea I agree with the liberator part. I think they made that route too hype on accident.
Rusted pride alway gonna hype you up
I mean, the NG++ ending is the true ending
@Artemie-np3qu till spin off coming out we can't trust FS on any lore at the moment
I enjoyed that one too "Buddy"
Finally after the wait, the story of AC6 is here, thanks for the great video ACL..
Great maybe a push ha ha but I'll learn from my mistakes and improve. Thank you for the kind words =)
"I won't miss." Has no right to go as hard as it does. It's so simple but damn does it hit.
To true, i mean maybe we thought he would miss. Either way solid work from the VA.
Thank-you for this gift! Do you think there's content enough for any more AC6 videos?
Or might you have to wait till things like the manual / pseudo lore book comes out in November?
Oh i do i promise. Now i can do smaller videos on the corporations their members and talk about thier acs its going to be fun. The book will only give me more to work on in the future.
@@armoredcorelore Most excellent! Cannot wait for the future.
I really miss your video man~
Fires of Raven is my canon ending imo, I became a Dark raven and everything I touched turns into ashes!
I will provide tidbits, references and little details in game later on your next video. There are a lot of them in AC6
Well i look forward to it and thank you i enjoyed my little break away. But back to work for me.
Been waiting for your video good work
Thank you, hope you enjoy even with the mistakes.
It's good to see you back making an Armored Core lore video and a nice explaining video on Armored Core 6 Fires of Rubicon by the way what are your thoughts on Armored Core 6 what do You like the most and the least in Armored Core 6 and looking forward for your next armored core lore video what you choose of the topic of Armored Core lore is ok for me.
make sure to take breaks and the time you need for making Armored core lore video Your health is essential and take breaks wherever you want your channel, your choice. :3 :>
Thank you for your kind words and concern Kevinton4373. Honestly i have just come back from my two week away from the channel to play ac6 and chill out for a bit. But i knew after i finished the game three ending i had to come back to making lore videos.
One thing I like to point out is that Ayre love to play prank! That last line at the ALLMIND ending maybe just Ayre joking again.
It very well could be. This was just how i felt about the ending and really i am always happy to hear how others see endings as that is what makes ac lore fun.
Already!? Okay. This is an absolute win. I got something for work tonight.
Hope you have a good shift.
I have to admit, not only was this a great review of the story of AC 6, but I think your interpretation of ending 3 is a meaningful one.
With Coral everywhere and able to think for itself, making decisions as individuals? Chaos is going to ensue. Some Coral intelligences are sure to want vengeance, or power, and take up arms.
But, humans fought before the discovery of Coral, and adding a few more combatants to the field isn't going to change the fundamentals.
One thing is for sure: C4 621 - Raven, and Ayre are going to be on those battlefields. Just as they would be in the Liberator of Rubicon ending, just as an independent rather than a symbol of Rubiconian independence.
Thank you for your kind praise especially since this video does have mistakes in it. Still as for that ending i think i just felt something was off about it i could be wrong and maybe coral and humans become one but then as you said they would have their own thoughts and feeling especially mixed in with some human feelings maybe war will start again not by the hands of human but these new beings.
Yay !you made it fam! Hope you get to have some lore for some individual characters and c weapons and that smug ALLMIND. See ya out there Raven.....
Also...CORAL REALEASE!!
See ya out there and thanks.
Just finished the true ending run, the true final boss was one hell of a fight but i made it, i can say... i have flown high on borrowed wings, great game and thanks for covering the lore of ac, keep up the good work
Thank you for the kind words and glad to hear you made it. Sounds like you had a blast.
I’m so happy I decided to play this. Everything about this game was beautiful.
Glad to hear you enjoyed. Let's hope we see some more ac games.
You know I just had a thought, Cleaner's location implies that it protects the access to the upper levels, or maybe it actually *protects RaD from incursion from the upper levels,* seeing as they do not control that area, but instead the PCA have it completely locked down. Is it possible the PCA made multiple attempts through this area to take down RaD?
Possible since RaD mts mechs made it into the black market so they are supplying weapons in a sense and we do see that at one point the PCA do invade Carla's grind and push her back to the watchpoint. A good thought, i like it.
What a good story. 10/10
Man, that last ending is brutal. I feel that the second one was better, as it allowed Ayre to grieve the loss of her family at the hands of the humans, yet be granted hope via 621 leading to a prominent future as she tells Raven that they can rebuild Rubicon 3.
Ending 3 feels more like Ayre only grows as hateful as Iguasu, and her conscience is further tainted as 621 listens to his final thoughts before death - leading her to actively make the choice to resort to revenge once the Coral Release concludes.
Damn..... thanks for making these explanations man. I now love FromSoftware to an even greater degree.
I admit i share the same feelings as you about the endings, the liberation ending is almost that chance for people and coral to find a way to work together. The third ending as you said is coral freedom being granted only for them to do perhaps what father feared and take revenge humanity for what they did to her people.
The last ending I couldn't really understand. What makes you think Ayre became resentful and the Coral seeking revenge? I genuinely don't understand, it feels too open ended. To me, it felt "hopeful" in that this was a new age where Coral evolved, perhaps fused with humans, but at the same time it felt creepy like humans were lost in the way we've always existed.
@ktvx.94 I mean, you're right. Humans and Coral COULD have fused. But that old dude only said symbiosis was possible, not guaranteed. That meant that it could take centuries before they bonded.
The reason I say it was a bad ending was due to how somber that final endings cut scene was. The narrator didn't speak with any tidings of hope in their message, and Ayre immediately issuing Order 66 as soon as Corals are able to operate Normals? That's literally turning the story back to full circle for me. In the end Ayre endured all that fighting with 621 only to choose Humanity's end as the only option. There may have been hope at first, but all that conflict and V. V Iguasu's entire rant about being dealt the worst hand turned her mind, bro.
What would you do in that situation when all you see is despair, y'know?
@@kitsunekimchi118I guess the thing with the third ending is that we only know two things.
Some sort of widespread coral dispersal occured, and something linked to corral is able to pilot ACs. We do not know if this is because coral actually bonded to their individual pilots (which would be my current favored choice) or override the ACs directly which would lead to the credence of a darker ending.
The thing is nowhere is Ayre ever done anything remotely hostile against humanity unless you force her hand in doing so, it would make little sense for her to turn to that option right after coral release. Especially since symbiosis would have already been obtained at this point.
My guess is that symbiosis was not complete, or resulted in some unforseen damage or consequences which means conflict could be right around the corner. Imagine if the corral release specifically bonded coral to AC units (both with pilots and without) and now lead to humanity seeing these recently transcended individuals seemingly without control as a threat to themselves? Definitely seems a lot deeper than just coral deciding that murder is the new order of the day.
I would also like to add something that I think ads to the depth of the plot. Carla hacks Allmind archives and tips Walter about the watchpoint. The conflict between the Overseers and Allmind existist for a longer time that you believe at first. In the conversations between Carla and Walter she refers sarcastically to our "friends" which is code name for Allmind, also proof of this is the previous conflict between Sulla and Walter's hounds.
There are 2 logs in watchpoint mission that infer that Sulla was meant to release Ayre. By defeating him you basically took his place in the plot and in a way delay Allmind plans for coral release. Also his name is not chosen by chance by the developers, Sulla was the one who laid the ground for Caesar to cast the dye (wiki about it), his AC name is called ENTANGLE.
For me personally the only real mystery in the plot is c3-291, Allmind reveals during V.III O'Keeffe mission briefing the 4 candidates, Sulla, you the player, Iguazu and this C3-291
You can feel ACL had fun playing this
I did =) It was nice to play a new ac game just blowing stuff up and experiencing the story before i torn into it for its lore. Expect Ibis that boss made me walk away for a spell.
Its so frustrating not being able to watch this yet since i haven't finished my NG++ run T-T
I'll check back at the end of the week coz by that time I'll finish the game, thanks for the amazing content!
Actually I finished the game already using brute force, nightfall/snowball, byleth, ashe the frost archer etc now I have to find all the combat logs and s rank every missions to earn the platinum trophy
Thank you for the kind words and i hope you enjoy the last run its quite the fun time for gameplay and lore.
@@armoredcorelore guess who's back with a completed ng++ run :D
@@yvan2218 Well how you did it Yvan2218?
@@armoredcorelore It was a pretty surreal experience, and I never expected to have trouble in the allmind fight when I was breezing through a lot of the other missions. I committed to not use meta weapons and be "lore accurate" by using coral weapons but man, managing your AP and ammo count on that fight was tough.
Just finished my 3rd playthrough for the final ending. After 3 playthroughs and all the alternate intricacies, I'm a little perplexed, since following a plotline between mercilessly pounding on anything mobile was a bit tricky. I took some notes, but hoping to have some new light shed through vids like this. Cheers!
I get that, honestly to make this video I had to rematch myself play the game. Hope you enjoy.
Finally the video I've been waiting for. You always do such good work! :D
Your too kind Drazenx195, i did make some mistakes in this video. So i have to be on the ball in the next one.
@@armoredcorelore it's all good! You usually do pilot profiles so hope there's a Rusty one at some point. XD
@@DrazenX195 Oh there will be.
@@armoredcorelore bless
great video as always, thanks for putting it together
Thank you for your kind words.
Wow you were fast to release this
I was and mistakes were made so lessons learned.
Great work as always, cant wait to see more lore videos by you
Thank you for your kind words =) There was some mistakes, but as i say a learning experience.
I really love the lore of armored core because the PCA are pretty much the good guys with the coolest LCs and HCs with superior technology and resources but are taken down by a badass mercenary with pure skill like a gundam main character.
Ac lore is neat.
BAWS stands for "Big Ass Weapon Systems" and you cant convince me otherwise
Ha ha i don't think i want too. I would to see that on a corporation order form.
Im just commenting to increase your reach, love your content brother keep it up.
Thank you it is appreciated.
Nice work on the lore of armored core 6
Thank you. This was a long one to work on.
I'll never forget Iguazu just being fed up with everyone and shutting up allmind in the final battle
Well i would like to know more about how he did it and such. But that maybe a book job.
Been waiting for this longer than the game
Well i hope you enjoy then.
The legend returns with a Fire drop!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
You are too kind. I hope you enjoy the video.
Just finished watching. Great video
Thank you. That is very kind, however i know i did make some mistake here so next one has to be spot on.
Thank you for your hard work, gotta get my hands on AC6 if my PC is ready!
It was fun to make, hope you can soon.
32:06 it's not lancer, it's light cavalry
Got it =)
Was excited for the game for the gameplay and visuals. But the story and characters hooked me fierce.
After three playthroughs, I feel I got the gist of it all but really appreciate this detail and breakdown!
Thank you, my apologies this video is not my best showcase. However i am pleased to read you enjoyed the break down.
and here we go, the lore master of this mechanized might across another age and even another century has return!
Ha ha lore master that is very kind of you. However i am still very much learning and i think that is what makes ac lore so much fun.
Awesome video, great timing, just neat ng++
Thank you for the kind word, i did muck up a lot in this video. So next one has to be near perfect as i can get.
@@armoredcorelore just hearing the missions told to me in a linear fashion helps a lot, since when I'm playing I'm mostly just furiously blasting away and the story gets lost
@@pugthemaster8 Me too i had to end up playing with no sound effects or music on to get what i missed.
It’s crazy how Armored Core 6 I can basically ignore all the background lore and still enjoy the main plots of all the three endings
And that is neat, i think that what make ac games good. Its the choice to either dive deep in or enjoy what is there. I am glad to hear your enjoyed ac6.
Love your videos man. I was wondering what your take is when it comes to how to interpret the endings. I see a lot of the community looking at the literal outcomes of the endings rather than than what they narratively represent, which was a bit surprising since I assumed they were meant to be processed like endings of Dark Souls, more of a philosophical question rather than a literal outcome. For example the Fires of Rubicon ending's narrative points to this idea of putting the dead to rest, as evidenced by the fact Coral appears to literally be the psychic gestalt of the dead Rubiconians. It also reinforces the idea with Walter and Carla trying to make amends for his father's work, even at the cost of his their own lives life. I personally interpreted the FoR ending as asking the player whether its better to cut ties with the past regardless of how much it hurts. The third ending is obviously a little different and I'm not fully sure how to parse that one yet.
I suppose its just a matter of how you interact creative works like this but I'd be curious to hear how someone who's been with the AC series for a long time processes them.
Thank you for the kind words and I'd be happy to share my personal thoughts on the endings as you say it depends on how you look at them.
To me the fires of raven ending is the idea that the coral while a great source of advancement to humankind, it came with this price of taking away the human element in a lot of people. Walter father as you said lost his mind, all the augmented pilots lost a part of themselves and the list goes on. In the end having seen all these lives lost, the overseers group knew coral does more damage then good as such it had to go. Erasing something that advances and damages humankind is very much the same as the kojima particles, only the corporations of ac4 did not want to wipe out kojima until it became clear the earth they wanted to be kings of was dying meaning they'd be the king of nothing but a poisoned world. You could also tie all the ai of past games into this as well for to some the ravens then was going kill of humanity if they killed the ai controlling everything that allow humanity to live after the great destruction.
The liberation front ending to me is more the status quo being kept the same. Everything just returns to how it was. There is no change to the coral and while it may seem the front has won someone will always want power and so this cycle of battle, freedom, battle will go on and on until a change is forced to happen. After all the corporations may have lost a lot but they are not down and out. I like to think this ending is very much like the ending of
Now the cast is dye route to me is very much a message of with a big change, there is a lot of sacrifices. Allmind is ruthless in taking out all who oppose it, people are nothing but pawns and once their purpose is done they are no longer need. Its cold and calculating plan like a business plan to improve profit they are willing to kill the jobs of people to pave this golden path of money. The big change comes at a price and if 621 is willing to pay that price they begin this new age where we presume coral is now the dominant race or that it is now free from its bonds and can do what it like causing a new power to enter. To me this is very much the orca ending of acfa a lot of people have to die for this new world and in the end only a few will benefit from it.
Hope this was enough for my thoughts on the ending.
Something is driving me crazy; You refer to LCs as Lances and HCs as Heavy Lances/lancers. I had heard it as Light Cavalry and Heavy Cavalry. Is this a difference in localization?
The video is wonderful so far, it's really nice to have such a comprehensive overview of all of the events and logs that can be easily referenced, I'm sure this won't be my only viewing.
it might be a localization issue since the HP bar shows HC and LCs as Heavy and Light cavalry as you said, don't know about the JP version.
He correctly calls them “Heavy Cavalry” and “Light Cavalry” at 43:48.
But he's been calling them Lancer Calvary before
Excellent lore video!
Thank you, but i think improvement is a must on this video.
There is always room for improvement, but you are doing really well.
I hope other content creators react to your lore videos.@@armoredcorelore
I feel the third ending is less dark than you believe it here. I personally see it as a "new dawn" type ending where a new era for humanity driven by coral begins. The AC that first wakes up is obviously 621/Raven as she calls to them to wake up and witness the new day. The other ACs are a genuine mystery as to who is piloting them. It may be coral beings or it could be dead AC pilots we met waking back up as some of them looked familiar to those we met. I personally believe these are resurrected AC pilots who now also have coral voices of their own. In regards to the "entering combat mode" I have no idea. I mean we are on a random water world that was probably a battlefield in a different war so perhaps this is simply Ayre being cautious since we are surrounded by random ACs, some of which have guns. Besides, I don't believe Ayre to be as malicious as you suspect. Her character is far more optimistic and trusting than most in the world of AC. Her driving character motive was to see coral and humanity coexist. It wouldn't make sense for her to just flip to suddenly wanting to destroy humanity out of simple vengeance.
That is fair, i think a lot of people have different ideas about the third ending and that's great it allows for conversations like this and for healthy debate. To me it just felt like ayre was too quick to jump into combat mode and it just did not sit right with me, again only my thoughts and i think until we have an official document or book its a good conversation to have.
I took it to mean we can get back to merc work together. She can be found saying in chapter 2 that she is quite fond of the routine, as well as during your initial run of Xylem, where she enjoys being out with our pilot protagonist.
Her voice here also reminds me of the voice of the ACs' systems in AC5 and Verdict Day.
Oh sweet! I plan on finishing my NG++ run today. Definitely checking this out afterwards.
Thank you and hope your enjoying NG++.
That's so interesting. I didn't think much of Ayre's final line but it makes more sense thinking about the coral ppl getting revenge.
Definitely makes that ending a lot more interesting than what I initially thought.
THE GOAT IS BACK.
Thank you for you kind words.
They could expand this game so much and turn it into something incredible.
Awesome stuff!
Thank you for the kind words. However this really was a one video i am not proud of, the mistakes of names being one of the many issue with the video.
@@armoredcorelore aww but the info is still really good! and the editing is on point :)
Man you got it Faster then i Expected
Came with mistakes i am afraid. But still fun to play.
Thanks for the vid, helped me understand the story, the quality is supurb :))
Thank you for the kind word and well mistakes were made but i am glad to hear it was enjoyable.
Yes, now I can finally follow the story!
Not to say the story is bad, but more that I can't really focus on it with all the gunfire and explosions.
I hope you enjoy, i will say there is some mispronunciations and for some reason i was convicted rusty was not in a ac that he clearly was in this video.
The AC Ayre pilots at the end of ending 3 isn't the same as the FoR ending, She's piloting the prototype AC Allmind is making from the Arena fights you do while in the Fires ending it's an Ibis series AC
VERY BEAUTIFUL explanation 👏👏👏
Thank you =) Mistakes were made, but i think we got the story out there.
Babe wake up, an actual AC fan made content.
Oh come one now, everyone can be a fan of ac.
Thumb Dolmayan could have been Dr. Nagai's other assistant for one he had access to the Rubicon Research Institutes research, secondly the male assistant is never mentioned by Nagai again after his 3rd note which is when he could have started dosing, third Thumb Dolmayan is in possession of Institute technology as if we look at his AC we can see that he is using an Institute coral generator, and lastly from what Ring Freddie says Thumb Dolmayan seems to know what Walters intentions are suggesting him having some knowledge about Overseer.
I would agree these are some good points after all he lied to the voice in his head as it seems he knew to talk to seria he would be killing off her kind to do so. But we also have to take into the accounts of the professor about the boy's father who coral research made him mad and took his mother life. Ah ac lore you make me think.
From the first of Dolmayan's writings it is clear that he has a almost religious zeal when it comes to coral and from the second it makes clear that he will say thing he doesn't believe also hearing voices in your head hardly qualifies as being sane. one other thing is an assistant for Doctor Nagai he would have had easy access to pure coral which by the Comms Record: Doser Ravings has a lot stronger effect on the brain. at the very least even if he wasn't Nagai's assistant he did at least worked for the Institute for some time.
Who else is on NG+5 right now? Hahah, such a fun game that deserves DLC and maybe some multiplayer missions!
Or sequel to fires of rubicon universe
I think we will get a sequel to 6th gen
@@naxergss2625like with 4 and for answer
@naxergss2625 Yeah but before we get a sequel 6th gen fromsoftware next game has leaked an unannounced game called spellbound and concept art of the game has leaked and the game will be out by January to april 2025 release window
@@kevingame3198 thats fake
Holy I wasn't expect this to be up
Neither did i to be honest, but i finished the game and thought well better make a story video on this now.
Really? I just thought the lore was "Balteus kills 621 over and over forever."
"*sigh* I'm sorry, Raven."
did you know that Balteus is an autonomous PCA craft?
@@MCisverygoodAnd that you have to break its pulse armor to do meaningful damage?
_Laughs in foreshadowing_
Ah that's a different timeline, i had no more time in the video to cover that timeline or the other time where 621 died to helicopter.
Thank you for your fantastic work! It's great to see armored core being back and expecially meaning more videos from you coming out! But i would like to correct you on the Alea lacta Est coral release ending, it's not just that coral is spread torought the stars and having the ability to take over machines and having more power. The ending also transformed humanity into beings who are no longer bound to their single human bodies and flesh, turning them sort of into coral human beings. Both Thumb Dolmayan and V3 O'Keefe stated the same, O'Keefe stated in his termination mission that coral release would mean that humans would be transformed into different beings and that the miserable sad lifes they have now would no longer exist, while Dolmayan said that it would bring an end to the current human race and also in a reporting stated that humans could come to the same plane as beings like ayre are.
Yeah basically humanity joins the coral flow
Raven becomes Jesus and gives everyone access to Heaven.
I've been looking forward to this
Hope you enjoy.