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A prominent female psychologist recently published a book where she interviewed 5,000 men and 5,,000 women. Amongst the questions she asked each.....1. "If you could meet a partner who could give you 80% of what you're seeking from a partner....how would you feel"? Overwhelmingly, the men said, "hell yes, sign me up"! Overwhelmingly, the women said, "hell no, that's settling'. In what Universe is getting 80% of what you're seeking from a partner, 'settling'? That single question right there....signifies how messed up dating/marriage is today for most men. 56% of marriages end in divorce (with women initiating 78% of all divorces). If you look at gay male and lesbian marriages....the divorce rate among lesbians is 78% while gay men divorce at a rate of 14%. That's almost 6 times the divorce rate. In other worlds, it aint just men that women cant stand being married to, lol.....women cant stand being married to each other either! What's interesting...is that the % of divorces initiated by men (regardless of them being straight or gay)...is pretty much in line (22% of straight divorces were initiated by men....whereas 14% of gay male divorces were obviously initiated by a man, lol). What that says...is that men generally want to make a marriage work (regardless of whether he's married to a man or woman)....whereas women are hella quick to 'jump ship' and divorce their partner (regardless of whether she's married to a man or woman). Yet I see NOTHING about this discussed in the media. All I hear is that it's always the man's fault...that men cant get their act together...that men cant committ....that men cheat...that men are deadbeats.....etc. However, the stats say otherwise.
Single women are happiest people, followed by married men, least happy is single men. You think women compare a relationship to another relationship, but now they compare it to their peace alone.
Everyone already knows this. Tell us something new. "First you get the money, then you get the power and then you get the woman"- Tony Montana. Works like a charm.
@@DynamicUnreal Unless you are a hermit, if you have money most guys will flaunt it in some way. Fancy clothes, cars, homes, fancy parties, restaurants...the easy part is spending it.Becoming rich is the hardest part.
@@ricomajestic A lot of men become rich through investing. It usually takes time, patience, and effort which is why those men could be multimillionaires but rarely ever look it because of the habits they built up. Drug dealers on the other hand, usually make the money really fast so they are more apt to spend it fast and women gravitate towards them.
@hablabamosa What is it about then if not money? You talking about charm status good looks ability to be a good parent provide protect ? Hypergamy supersedes all of that Have all those categories if not most of them and they still can't keep a marriage
@@m.draven477Looks > everything else. An extremely attractive man will have women paying for everything, flying him out, giving him money, buying him cars etc. She will drain money out of other guys and give it to him if necessary to keep him happy.
I'm glad I'm older, when I was young I spent so much time and money on this, and now I just don't care about all these relationships and how to be attractive to women.
@@maffef4089well probably working on yourself first off would have worked like that money and time you spent should have been on yourself in the first place it would have just been a byproduct of the time and money you spent on yourself.
Envy for me comes more from when i see someone with something that i want AND they strike me as someone who is less deserving of that thing than i am. My perception of what they deserve is obviously flawed and probably incorrect (because what the hell do i ACTUALLY know about this person?)(and what the hell do i actually even know about myself and what i actually deserve, for that matter) nevertheless thats how i feel. Contrast to when i see someone who has something that i want but they come off as humble, kind & overall deserving of what they have. Those people tend to inspire me. Their humbleness rubs off. Their virtue causes me to feel inspired
I'm sixty-five years old now. If I'd heard Mr. Jordan Peterson's advice on how to be attractive to women back when I was a geeky teenager, it would have done me no benefit as I already knew it. --
It’s not about confidence with modern women. It’s return on investment. They’re a quarter of the women our grandmothers were for eight times the price. They’re just not worth the risk.
@nocturnomedieval How is his statement bold when it's a reflection of the reality of the culture as whole. Arguing from the position of the exception is just silly.
@@m.draven477 ok your point but then you could argue that shallowness of modern culture is a genderless drawback. And yes, considering people and social interactions as an economical transactions where ROI is key and not the path, the experiences the whole inner growth is quite desinsitized IMHO, something I will go to discuss in therapy I think.
Someone has to edit this conversation again. "You wish you'd be the sort of person that was attractive to women" "Look at me I'm so useless I don't know anything I don't have anything it's hopeless I don't have it within me". 3:01
Starbucks patio, there was a guy sitting 3 tables down, knitting a sweater. Girls stopped to admire his work and sat with him, which led to laughter and flirting. Unexpected boldness can make an average guy attractive.
Or doing something that most men would feel self conscious doing in public shows he's secure in himself, and if he does it well it shows tgat he is skilled. Women love skilled men. The curiosity is also a plus.
@@Gion-x3talso the fact he most likely didn’t look like he lives in his moms basement problem helped if you look like that you could of done the same ina thousand Starbucks would have been the same out come.
@@briancommon9281 That doesn't matter. I'm talking about a statistically significant event (what happens most of the time), your example is just a statistical outlier. It's like if a tell you that the average height is 5'10" and you reply me "I dont know about that, I have seen 6'9" tall guys". Outliers don't have any statistical significance. Location can also impact the statistic. In regions where the sexual revolution (women with good jobs/money and not needing to rely on any man) is fully implanted, they will tend more to show their true nature (wanting the most physically attractive guys), which totally happens in the West.
Majority of modern day woman, get validated on social media. Where they don’t feel they need much from men, no matter how successful they are. There are more single/lonely men than ever before in history.
Don’t be needy. Don’t need at all. Appreciate any flirtations as enough and be satisfied to move on with yourself by yourself. “There’s no cure for relationship.”
I found I scored more when I showed a lack of interest and stopped trying to pick somebody up. That way you never show any signs of desperation in asking or disappointment in rejection.
I didn't know that Jordan Peterson was a dating expert and had a history of stranger approaching. But looking at him, I can tell he is the technical authority on how to get laid.
2:20 I don't know how many times people have to get this wrong before they eventually start getting it right. Joseph & Mary were in Bethlehem to participate in a census, along with lots of other people. Not surprisingly, there was no vacancy at the inn. Mary went into labor at this inconvenient time. So, they made do. Joseph was a carpenter. Jesus grew up in a middle-class family.
“Get yourself together; stand up straight with your shoulders back; take on some adventure; find your calling; abide by your conscience; put yourself together and you’ll become attractive.” What does all his points really mean? Is this for young men or all men? Get yourself together, take on some adventure, find your calling, abide by your conscience…they sound like powerful and wise words. Are they really helpful though? I am not asking to belittle. I am genuinely interested to know what those words really mean when you break them down into practicality of life. Get yourself together. What does that really mean? Is it like sort out what exactly? Take on some adventure? Does this mean a literal adventure like those you read in fantasy or adventure stories where there is a quest and there are dangers along the way? Abide by your conscience? Are all human lives like Luke Skywalker? Or like Jesus? Then you will become attractive…to who exactly? I know he mentions the documentary of Crumb where he was rejected, then he excelled and became attractive to women. Is that really it? Become useful, or competent in a job, earn money to be able to provide for yourself and others, then you become attractive to women? Is that really it? Is attraction the all and be all of life?
How does he explain dating in communities such as farmers, trade workers, or ‘unconventional’ couples? It’s more common than the ‘hot girl-ambitious man’ type he talks about. This is also like high school dating. Yeh the most glamorous is cheerleader and athlete because we are biologically attracted to display of good genetics, then there’s dating for everyone else that’s not physically gifted or ambitious.
Men should do things to benefit themselves first and foremost. The results may vary, but if they end up without a woman at least they'll be in a better position than they were before
The dual-mating hypothesis has already been discarded by the academic community. The more credible hypothesis is that women are faithful insofar as the male holds up his end of the relationship bargain. If he fails to do so, the female will mate-switch via the affair.
Love is the story women , and Hollywood tells ! On the reason for a relationship. Lies . You should not have to work to be loved . But in reality U do .
@@sean4060 i got better at talking to women and making them sexually attracted to me. this was not how i did it whatsoever. i just became more confident. people won't want to hear it but that really is the truth.
@@MateuszMisztela statistics can indicate lots of different things. attraction in general is not something we have a very good understanding of. if we did, we all wouldn't be so confused. i understand that the concept of confidence in itself is quite a nebulous one but that's what i attribute going from thinking i was ugly to women and having very little hope in attracting them to having a lot of success, sparking attraction with various different women. the reality is every individual is very different and looking for different things when it comes to appearance, personality, presentation, vibe, background etc. i managed to attract women that i was HIGHLY physically attracted to on several occasions. i realised that appearance is important to me, but that it's not quite this amazing thing i thought it was. And let's be honest, make up and maintenance makes a huge difference for women. which is great. i love women looking attractive lol. i do skin care and take care of my hair also. but yeah man, trust me, this incel/blackpill is undoubtedly far too doomer-esque and just wrong in many ways. certainly truth to it too. of course appearance matters. quite a lot in fact. but absolutely not in the ways that many people who follow the incel/blackpill movements believe. if you put just a bit of effort in for hygiene and practice talking to women and developing a better relationship with yourself, you will find more success. i absolutely promise you. it takes a good amount of inner strength and self-awareness over time mostly imo.
Or hide behind anonymity to go online and make ridiculous negative comments about public figures they envy everything about, what immediately strikes me as “where did you get that coat, I wish I had your balls and spine even when no one is looking I can’t do it”
I just don't see how everybody does not see him as a con. Man. I don't. Think he believes half of what he says. If people actually Read one tenth of what he references You would feel the same.
I became extremely successful at the skill of replicating all manner of external digestive noises. To say I am now a huge chick magnet would be a massive understatement.
I understand this corelation between male social status and reproducive sucsess but not so much why women value society so much, yes in the hunter gather situation they would need it for their survival but what is it about engaging with the culture even when the culture is sick? They seem to do it even to their own extreme detriment.
@@JustinMcIntyr3 1. Sure cause women mean everything they say. And even then, he's not gonna be an elite athlete just because he listens to athletes all day.
The people who dismiss Peterson as rambling aren’t really listening. He talks all the way down to the fundamental axiom from which people operate, that informs how they act out in the world. The character they are acting out in their own life, and the way they impact the people around them. So what makes a man attractive to women? A person who lives out the hero’s journey. Someone who has a good relationship with “God” or Being itself. A person who can undergo the hardships of life without becoming bitter and corrupt. Those attributes yield status, and status results in reproductive success. If you disagree with that that’s fine, but don’t be arrogantly dismissive 🫠
Peterson mix facts with hypothesis, but always articulated and using an overconfident and condescending tone, therefore most people take him as the bearer of truth but sadly he is not.
Its a moral discussion. Of course there is going to be a mix of hypothesis and facts. You cant just talk facts in a moral discussion. His overconfidence should be an invitation to challenge his hypothesis, but to attack the form in which he introduces his hypothesis is not very productive.
As hard as it is to be sexually attractive and charismatic to women do people realize if your only goal is 😽 there are escorts for that . I mean it’s that or virgin for life so pick
Take it from a woman. Don’t take Jordan Peterson’s advice on how to be attractive to women. 🤢 Blah, blah, blah…loves to hear himself talk. Ask a women questions. Be interested in who she is. It’s pretty simple.
More than that. A man can make all the money in the world and become a workout warrior...YET if he isnt a natural Chad (1. at least 6 feet tall...2. have a head full of hair...3. have broad shoulders...4. have a great smile...5. have a strong, pronounced chin...6. have amazing, striking eyes).....than at the end of the day, all he'll be in the eyes of most women...is, at best, a back-up option....subject to the 56% of marriages that end in divorce (with women initiating 78% of all divorces). Most women only find 4.5% of men to be naturally sexually appealing. In fact, most women rate 80% of men as being 'belove a 5' (on a scale of 1-10). That's BELOW AVERAGE! Even heffers....even women who are, at best, 5's and 6's in the looks department...feel entitled to a High Value Man (a Chad with a Bag). In 2023, Morgan Stanley predicted that by 2030...42% of women age 40 and older..will be BOTH single AND childless. As more and more women become more educated/career minded/make their own money.....the pool of men that most women will even consider dating/marriage with...will shrink CONSIDERABLY! Most of these women want men who are more educated/successful/make more money than them (please, you can forget about the 'it's ok that he makes around how much I make' NONSENSE). Women today think that they are all 10's/queens/boss babes....while talking amongst each other about how hard it is to find 'a good man'. Yet their definition of 'a good man'...is insanely rare. Tall/handsome/wealthy. They act like these men simply grow on trees. When factoring only 2 things (being at least 6 feet tall and making at least $100k a year).....only 2.3% of men satisfy both checkmarks! 13.7% of men are at least 6 feet tall....while 17% of men make at least $100k a year. And that's not even considering looks, smile, body build, hair, personality, conversation ability, status, etc. Most men arent that hard to please (except for the top 4.5% of men...who all know that most women want them...therefore they can afford to be hella selective). However most women will hella disqualify most men for a variety of reasons.
What a load of BS about women fantasies > better interview girls and women about what makes them tick and that is different for everyone. Important: patience, and feeling safe and respected.
He also forgets the standards and demands of the society people live in, and those can change. The reproductive burden can be shared more equally in various ways. So girls won't look at higher status men. There's also plenty of women who are the bread winner.
Easy, right wing, absolutely only with money or you have to sell yourself. For the left wing you have to be the Alfa monkey, be the best in everything, lol, if you are a nerdy sigma, just put a alfa mask , it works for a while....
This guy has started to draw most of his conclusions from Christian religion - that's more than enough said. If he is a prime example of today's intellectual, then we really live in shitty, shitty times.
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A prominent female psychologist recently published a book where she interviewed 5,000 men and 5,,000 women. Amongst the questions she asked each.....1. "If you could meet a partner who could give you 80% of what you're seeking from a partner....how would you feel"?
Overwhelmingly, the men said, "hell yes, sign me up"!
Overwhelmingly, the women said, "hell no, that's settling'.
In what Universe is getting 80% of what you're seeking from a partner, 'settling'? That single question right there....signifies how messed up dating/marriage is today for most men. 56% of marriages end in divorce (with women initiating 78% of all divorces).
If you look at gay male and lesbian marriages....the divorce rate among lesbians is 78% while gay men divorce at a rate of 14%. That's almost 6 times the divorce rate. In other worlds, it aint just men that women cant stand being married to, lol.....women cant stand being married to each other either!
What's interesting...is that the % of divorces initiated by men (regardless of them being straight or gay)...is pretty much in line (22% of straight divorces were initiated by men....whereas 14% of gay male divorces were obviously initiated by a man, lol). What that says...is that men generally want to make a marriage work (regardless of whether he's married to a man or woman)....whereas women are hella quick to 'jump ship' and divorce their partner (regardless of whether she's married to a man or woman). Yet I see NOTHING about this discussed in the media. All I hear is that it's always the man's fault...that men cant get their act together...that men cant committ....that men cheat...that men are deadbeats.....etc. However, the stats say otherwise.
Single women are happiest people, followed by married men, least happy is single men. You think women compare a relationship to another relationship, but now they compare it to their peace alone.
@@tallspicyBecause being single means less responsibility and less responsibility means you're immature
@@tallspicyu must be one of them. Lonely and miserable
A man will sacrifice his happiness for a woman, a woman would sacrifice a man for her happiness.
@@tallspicy ur one of them
Everyone already knows this. Tell us something new. "First you get the money, then you get the power and then you get the woman"- Tony Montana. Works like a charm.
You could have all the money in the world, but unless you look like you have it and spend it - there won’t be any women after you.
@@DynamicUnreal Unless you are a hermit, if you have money most guys will flaunt it in some way. Fancy clothes, cars, homes, fancy parties, restaurants...the easy part is spending it.Becoming rich is the hardest part.
@@ricomajestic A lot of men become rich through investing. It usually takes time, patience, and effort which is why those men could be multimillionaires but rarely ever look it because of the habits they built up. Drug dealers on the other hand, usually make the money really fast so they are more apt to spend it fast and women gravitate towards them.
Tony Montana was meant to be a cautionary tale, not sure if you want to follow his path when you know how it ended.
@@blazer6708 Dude was doing illegal stuff though and doing coke! He did speak the truth in that movie scene.
Step 1: Have money and status.
Step 2: Acquire women.
go to Mexico/Southeast Asia/ South America.. US women are done for
Step 3: Profit.
@@jamiehexum5905You beat me to it 💪
Step 3: Nilla wafers and BINGO
Not my experience. What this has attracted for me is women who want to play and reject someone for an ego boost.
Have higher market value than the woman you want.
@hablabamosa
I don't think you understand how hypergammyworks there is no cap so even top earners with status have trouble with divorce
@@m.draven477 its not just about money
@hablabamosa
What is it about then if not money? You talking about charm status good looks ability to be a good parent provide protect ?
Hypergamy supersedes all of that
Have all those categories if not most of them and they still can't keep a marriage
@@m.draven477Looks > everything else. An extremely attractive man will have women paying for everything, flying him out, giving him money, buying him cars etc. She will drain money out of other guys and give it to him if necessary to keep him happy.
not gonna work, even gorlock thinks she deserves gigachad.
I'm glad I'm older, when I was young I spent so much time and money on this, and now I just don't care about all these relationships and how to be attractive to women.
Exactly
Women are so mean
@@maffef4089well probably working on yourself first off would have worked like that money and time you spent should have been on yourself in the first place it would have just been a byproduct of the time and money you spent on yourself.
Envy for me comes more from when i see someone with something that i want AND they strike me as someone who is less deserving of that thing than i am. My perception of what they deserve is obviously flawed and probably incorrect (because what the hell do i ACTUALLY know about this person?)(and what the hell do i actually even know about myself and what i actually deserve, for that matter) nevertheless thats how i feel. Contrast to when i see someone who has something that i want but they come off as humble, kind & overall deserving of what they have. Those people tend to inspire me. Their humbleness rubs off. Their virtue causes me to feel inspired
I'm sixty-five years old now. If I'd heard Mr. Jordan Peterson's advice on how to be attractive to women back when I was a geeky teenager, it would have done me no benefit as I already knew it.
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If you want to get married, you only care how to be more attractive to your future wife. The other women don't matter.
I did not find this useful. Anyone found it useful?
@@udoyxyz Peterson is totally useless.
@@ricomajestic😀
It’s not about confidence with modern women. It’s return on investment. They’re a quarter of the women our grandmothers were for eight times the price. They’re just not worth the risk.
Bold comment. No need to generalize. Maybe it is your circle/city or social network entourage, but there are lots of great ones somewhere.
It’s the women you chase. Let’s be real, the guys complaining go for the shallow pretty ladies that dress up and get their nails done.
@nocturnomedieval
How is his statement bold when it's a reflection of the reality of the culture as whole.
Arguing from the position of the exception is just silly.
@@m.draven477 ok your point but then you could argue that shallowness of modern culture is a genderless drawback. And yes, considering people and social interactions as an economical transactions where ROI is key and not the path, the experiences the whole inner growth is quite desinsitized IMHO, something I will go to discuss in therapy I think.
As a dude that has trouble with women i get it, but you can say the same thing for men
Someone has to edit this conversation again.
"You wish you'd be the sort of person that was attractive to women"
"Look at me I'm so useless I don't know anything I don't have anything it's hopeless I don't have it within me". 3:01
Starbucks patio, there was a guy sitting 3 tables down, knitting a sweater. Girls stopped to admire his work and sat with him, which led to laughter and flirting. Unexpected boldness can make an average guy attractive.
I wouldn't consider a guy sitting by himself knitting as particularly bold.
@@hughmcateer3369 Overt bold: Cleaning a hunting bow. Clever bold: Doing a thing the ladies think they know all about.
Or doing something that most men would feel self conscious doing in public shows he's secure in himself, and if he does it well it shows tgat he is skilled. Women love skilled men. The curiosity is also a plus.
@@Gion-x3talso the fact he most likely didn’t look like he lives in his moms basement problem helped if you look like that you could of done the same ina thousand Starbucks would have been the same out come.
Attraction is all about Looks, any other thing is a GigaCOPE.
i dont know about that. ive seen ugly guys with attractive girls and they didn't have power or wealth
@@briancommon9281 That doesn't matter. I'm talking about a statistically significant event (what happens most of the time), your example is just a statistical outlier. It's like if a tell you that the average height is 5'10" and you reply me "I dont know about that, I have seen 6'9" tall guys". Outliers don't have any statistical significance.
Location can also impact the statistic. In regions where the sexual revolution (women with good jobs/money and not needing to rely on any man) is fully implanted, they will tend more to show their true nature (wanting the most physically attractive guys), which totally happens in the West.
Majority of modern day woman, get validated on social media. Where they don’t feel they need much from men, no matter how successful they are. There are more single/lonely men than ever before in history.
I did a lot of what Jordan is talking about here and I'm still not a hit with the ladies. I guess it's good advice though.
Don’t be needy. Don’t need at all. Appreciate any flirtations as enough and be satisfied to move on with yourself by yourself. “There’s no cure for relationship.”
JP is exhaustin
The Robert Crumb example is pretty good. Care about your status first. The attractiveness is a byproduct.
This guy is a professional sophist.
I found I scored more when I showed a lack of interest and stopped trying to pick somebody up.
That way you never show any signs of desperation in asking or disappointment in rejection.
I didn't know that Jordan Peterson was a dating expert and had a history of stranger approaching.
But looking at him, I can tell he is the technical authority on how to get laid.
I think Jordan is way off on many things, but when he stays in relationships, happy to listen.
2:20 I don't know how many times people have to get this wrong before they eventually start getting it right.
Joseph & Mary were in Bethlehem to participate in a census, along with lots of other people. Not surprisingly, there was no vacancy at the inn.
Mary went into labor at this inconvenient time. So, they made do.
Joseph was a carpenter. Jesus grew up in a middle-class family.
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“Get yourself together; stand up straight with your shoulders back; take on some adventure; find your calling; abide by your conscience; put yourself together and you’ll become attractive.” What does all his points really mean? Is this for young men or all men? Get yourself together, take on some adventure, find your calling, abide by your conscience…they sound like powerful and wise words. Are they really helpful though? I am not asking to belittle. I am genuinely interested to know what those words really mean when you break them down into practicality of life. Get yourself together. What does that really mean? Is it like sort out what exactly? Take on some adventure? Does this mean a literal adventure like those you read in fantasy or adventure stories where there is a quest and there are dangers along the way? Abide by your conscience? Are all human lives like Luke Skywalker? Or like Jesus? Then you will become attractive…to who exactly? I know he mentions the documentary of Crumb where he was rejected, then he excelled and became attractive to women. Is that really it? Become useful, or competent in a job, earn money to be able to provide for yourself and others, then you become attractive to women? Is that really it? Is attraction the all and be all of life?
I’m curious who is the female version of Dr Peterson for women?
Esther Perel.
His wife
Camille Paglia
@@ruthiefrost my first thought
Is he wearing Leonardo Da Vinci's painting on the sistine chapel ceiling? Lol.
a tailor offered him out of the blue to custom make his suits apparently, he talked about it many times, i dont think jordan is at the drawing board
@@TheDeathOfPassion I'm not insulting it, I actually think it's fire.
i wish i could speak as well as these guys do. Very articulate
Well, incremental progress is exponential not lateral. You know you wanna speak well, you know you like how they speak, work on it
They, however, do not get chicks! 😆
@@Gs_up they think like adults. You should try
How does he explain dating in communities such as farmers, trade workers, or ‘unconventional’ couples? It’s more common than the ‘hot girl-ambitious man’ type he talks about.
This is also like high school dating. Yeh the most glamorous is cheerleader and athlete because we are biologically attracted to display of good genetics, then there’s dating for everyone else that’s not physically gifted or ambitious.
A masculine appearance and personality paired with a Silicon Valley bank account is the epitome of what they’re looking for.
Men should do things to benefit themselves first and foremost. The results may vary, but if they end up without a woman at least they'll be in a better position than they were before
Peterson ignores the fact that women have a dual-mating strategy.
The dual-mating hypothesis has already been discarded by the academic community. The more credible hypothesis is that women are faithful insofar as the male holds up his end of the relationship bargain. If he fails to do so, the female will mate-switch via the affair.
Love is the story women , and Hollywood tells ! On the reason for a relationship. Lies . You should not have to work to be loved .
But in reality U do .
It’s called evolution.
Tall, hair and symetrical face, and money : )
So like Al Pacino, Robert deNiro, Hugh Hefner
@@ricomajestic Just become one of the best and richest actors of all time and you might be able to pull almost as much as a tall pretty-boy.
Just be attractive bro
I was brought into being by two teenagers in a scout hut.
How does that give me a vision for my future to work towards ?
Be tall be good looking be hung personality does not matter
This is so bad. This is exactly how I've imaged a boomer talking about women... Just urgs
He is correct
@@sean4060 i got better at talking to women and making them sexually attracted to me. this was not how i did it whatsoever. i just became more confident. people won't want to hear it but that really is the truth.
@@serengeti4027 Cool story bro, now show us statistics.
@@MateuszMisztela statistics can indicate lots of different things. attraction in general is not something we have a very good understanding of. if we did, we all wouldn't be so confused. i understand that the concept of confidence in itself is quite a nebulous one but that's what i attribute going from thinking i was ugly to women and having very little hope in attracting them to having a lot of success, sparking attraction with various different women. the reality is every individual is very different and looking for different things when it comes to appearance, personality, presentation, vibe, background etc. i managed to attract women that i was HIGHLY physically attracted to on several occasions. i realised that appearance is important to me, but that it's not quite this amazing thing i thought it was. And let's be honest, make up and maintenance makes a huge difference for women. which is great. i love women looking attractive lol. i do skin care and take care of my hair also.
but yeah man, trust me, this incel/blackpill is undoubtedly far too doomer-esque and just wrong in many ways. certainly truth to it too. of course appearance matters. quite a lot in fact. but absolutely not in the ways that many people who follow the incel/blackpill movements believe. if you put just a bit of effort in for hygiene and practice talking to women and developing a better relationship with yourself, you will find more success. i absolutely promise you. it takes a good amount of inner strength and self-awareness over time mostly imo.
Have a really big: bank account.
Get married and have a rapidly depleting: bank account.
Dress like the Riddler and constantly make yourself cry while talking about random things
Or hide behind anonymity to go online and make ridiculous negative comments about public figures they envy everything about, what immediately strikes me as “where did you get that coat, I wish I had your balls and spine even when no one is looking I can’t do it”
@@Sandra_D.9 anonymous poster getting mad at anonymous poster for saying a weird man dresses like the riddler
@@maynardthegreat 🥱
If you are attractive to women , Are you a good person?
I just don't see how everybody does not see him as a con. Man. I don't.
Think he believes half of what he says.
If people actually Read one tenth of what he references You would feel the same.
How to be attractive to women. Don’t under any circumstances talk about any of JP’s fav topics.
politics and religion?
It would seem in some subcultures Peterson is lauded and in others mocked, are his theories likewise applicable?
Simpin' won't help u
"what do you mean by 'attractive' ? what do you mean by 'women'?" - Jordan Frauderson.
But even to take that Leap Lex you will still have had to 'reason' your way into that position first right?
Tell me you don’t understand women, without telling me you don’t understand women.
I know hes a very smart individual but seriously he needs to stop giving dissertation for questions that dont warrant it.
@@samb9403 Is he smart? At word salads and BS perhaps.
@@ricomajestic Lol..idk if I'd go as far as full word salad. But 10 minutes to pepper in a few points definitely more lettuce than croutons.. 😂
I became extremely successful at the skill of replicating all manner of external digestive noises. To say I am now a huge chick magnet would be a massive understatement.
I understand this corelation between male social status and reproducive sucsess but not so much why women value society so much, yes in the hunter gather situation they would need it for their survival but what is it about engaging with the culture even when the culture is sick? They seem to do it even to their own extreme detriment.
Its instincts, not rational. Instincts evolved in hunter gatherer tribes.
The love of a woman is conditional.
This guy has been with one woman his entire life...what advice could he give on WOMEN?
Ya, and as a Psychologist, he has probably never heard the innermost motivations or desires of a women in his clinical work. 🎉
@@JustinMcIntyr3 1. Sure cause women mean everything they say. And even then, he's not gonna be an elite athlete just because he listens to athletes all day.
You don’t have to listen.
@@tallspicy You SHOULDN'T listen,that's what Im saying.
Would you only let a doctor treat you for cancer if he himself had had cancer?
All the women i know hates Jordan Peterson 😂
Because he knows them better than they know themselves. He is 100% correct on this topic
Sounds like the women you know aren’t the brightest.
a lot of resentful computer nerds in the comment section 😅
@@jessequest8575 ur one urself
@@KD400_ 🤣 Do you work at GameStop ?
@@jessequest8575 no.
@@KD400_ Should consider it because you would fit in.
@jessequest8575 dude u would.
how to be attractive to women: 💰
The people who dismiss Peterson as rambling aren’t really listening.
He talks all the way down to the fundamental axiom from which people operate, that informs how they act out in the world.
The character they are acting out in their own life, and the way they impact the people around them.
So what makes a man attractive to women? A person who lives out the hero’s journey. Someone who has a good relationship with “God” or Being itself. A person who can undergo the hardships of life without becoming bitter and corrupt.
Those attributes yield status, and status results in reproductive success.
If you disagree with that that’s fine, but don’t be arrogantly dismissive 🫠
Peterson mix facts with hypothesis, but always articulated and using an overconfident and condescending tone, therefore most people take him as the bearer of truth but sadly he is not.
Its a moral discussion. Of course there is going to be a mix of hypothesis and facts. You cant just talk facts in a moral discussion. His overconfidence should be an invitation to challenge his hypothesis, but to attack the form in which he introduces his hypothesis is not very productive.
7:26 okay, what'd you say about Islam, Jordan?
S/o to the guys who slay.
Take as old as time…
I know it's like there's value in it or something 😂
Be tall, good looking and rich not hard.
Women have a duel mating strategy alpha seed beta need.
I think Peterson is a bit outdated with how modern marriage age women think and behave.
Look and sound and think “like” (in quotes here because it would be impossible even for a perfect clone) Sam Harris and Lex Fridman ❤
As hard as it is to be sexually attractive and charismatic to women do people realize if your only goal is 😽 there are escorts for that . I mean it’s that or virgin for life so pick
Trick
Take it from a woman. Don’t take Jordan Peterson’s advice on how to be attractive to women. 🤢 Blah, blah, blah…loves to hear himself talk. Ask a women questions. Be interested in who she is. It’s pretty simple.
We won't take it from women either lol. Where's ur successful relationship then
Women give the worst advice for attracting women. No one should take your advice either
I’m not sure I’d listen to either of these guys on this topic….
How to be attractive to women simple just have money 😂😂😂😂
More than that. A man can make all the money in the world and become a workout warrior...YET if he isnt a natural Chad (1. at least 6 feet tall...2. have a head full of hair...3. have broad shoulders...4. have a great smile...5. have a strong, pronounced chin...6. have amazing, striking eyes).....than at the end of the day, all he'll be in the eyes of most women...is, at best, a back-up option....subject to the 56% of marriages that end in divorce (with women initiating 78% of all divorces).
Most women only find 4.5% of men to be naturally sexually appealing. In fact, most women rate 80% of men as being 'belove a 5' (on a scale of 1-10). That's BELOW AVERAGE! Even heffers....even women who are, at best, 5's and 6's in the looks department...feel entitled to a High Value Man (a Chad with a Bag). In 2023, Morgan Stanley predicted that by 2030...42% of women age 40 and older..will be BOTH single AND childless. As more and more women become more educated/career minded/make their own money.....the pool of men that most women will even consider dating/marriage with...will shrink CONSIDERABLY! Most of these women want men who are more educated/successful/make more money than them (please, you can forget about the 'it's ok that he makes around how much I make' NONSENSE).
Women today think that they are all 10's/queens/boss babes....while talking amongst each other about how hard it is to find 'a good man'. Yet their definition of 'a good man'...is insanely rare. Tall/handsome/wealthy. They act like these men simply grow on trees. When factoring only 2 things (being at least 6 feet tall and making at least $100k a year).....only 2.3% of men satisfy both checkmarks! 13.7% of men are at least 6 feet tall....while 17% of men make at least $100k a year. And that's not even considering looks, smile, body build, hair, personality, conversation ability, status, etc.
Most men arent that hard to please (except for the top 4.5% of men...who all know that most women want them...therefore they can afford to be hella selective). However most women will hella disqualify most men for a variety of reasons.
Nope. Some women. Not the good ones.
@@tallspicy haha ok put a similar guy next to each other one with money one broke and see what happens 😂😂😂
@@tallspicy Money gets you in the door with the good ones and then they'll compare you with other guys with money.
@ricomajestic
That's called hypergamy and it exists in every woman.
Tall and money…
Plain and simple
What a load of BS about women fantasies > better interview girls and women about what makes them tick and that is different for everyone. Important: patience, and feeling safe and respected.
8:38 brrrr 😬
He also forgets the standards and demands of the society people live in, and those can change. The reproductive burden can be shared more equally in various ways. So girls won't look at higher status men. There's also plenty of women who are the bread winner.
Isn't it based on questionnaire?
Sloot gonna sloot
His arms are crossed like big mad.
TLDR: be born in top 1% of most tall and handsome men or be the top 1% in the rat race to match the SMV of 7/10 19yo girl.
What the hell does Jordan Peterson know about this?😅
😴
Way too religious for me
You missed the point. The religious characters can be swapped out for anybody.
Easy, right wing, absolutely only with money or you have to sell yourself.
For the left wing you have to be the Alfa monkey, be the best in everything, lol, if you are a nerdy sigma, just put a alfa mask , it works for a while....
Is he some kindf church man dressed as a joker ? I seriously wanted to hear his. opinion, but he overkill 'God' reference was cringey
has has he always been so big on God? cant stand all the religious crap he brings up
Medically, standing up straight with your shoulders back is not the best thing for your spine
@frankyturrizo4240
So I grew up in the middle class family
Most of my childhood we were renters
This guy has started to draw most of his conclusions from Christian religion - that's more than enough said.
If he is a prime example of today's intellectual, then we really live in shitty, shitty times.
At least we have you
By cheering for genocide?
By cheering for a government that hides amongst their people then claims civilian casualties?
lol. wtf Lex