Most people don't really understand the manosphere stuff. I once read a few pick up websites and books together with a female friend and we both agreed that some of the core principles are actually just 'redressing an imbalance' of male low self esteem. Yes, you might be reflexively thinking 'aren't those books more about confidence tricks and suchlike'. However, the point is that this is not entirely the case. For, example, one manosphere female attracting tip; not reflexively saying excessively negative things about yourself when on a date is (apparently) something the modern woman knows by instinct yet this is clearly not so well understood by men (perhaps because the male on male culture is revels in brutal forms of humour). Also, remember, sometimes these seemingly 'surface' techniques do actually address something deeper. In this case, disciplining your internal monologue (about yourself) can build genuine self esteem, even though it is a 'technique' of sorts. Many manosphere sites recommend being healthy, in good shape and programming your subconscious mind with various positive scripts. Once again, none of these things can be seen as particularly shallow. They are ideas which the modern woman knows will make her more appealing, but the modern man might have forgotten. Even the more 'technique' driven side of flirting with women such as 'be cocky funny', 'have a sense of humour' 'negging' etc. I would suggest there is an unnatural but also a natural side to this. There is also a naturalness via unatural learning aspect to it, as with many things in life. For example, I do not particularly like the concept of 'negging' (nor being cocky) but men who are grounded and have a healthy sense of reality know that no woman or man is beyond seeing themselves in a humorous light. When a person is seeing you as a human, you are less likely to be spooked out by them, be they male or female. Therefore 'kind negging' is not really a technique, it is something which occurs now and then in real interaction. If some men don't realise this, having the 'technique' handed on a spoon to them, might make themselves see the obvious. Some of these manosphere dating sites also, to get across their methodology, borrow from comedic techniques such as lateral and associative thinking under pressure which is absolutely not inherently superficial. Again, if you are a wallflower who doesn't realise why you can't spit anything out when around women (or men), these manosphere blogs are showing you things which are used in the corporate world, in business, in marketing schools etc to coerce the subconscious mind to fluency. A lot of people these days lack general fuzzy logic. Western society itself sometimes can be quite 'deontology seeking' at times when fuzzy logic would serve them better. To apply some fuzzy logic to this topic, you don't have to see the manosphere so cynically if you take a broader view and accept it what it has to offer within a wider gestalt. It's often, for those who dip into it, just a bridge to psychically rebalancing and returning to timid men a bunch of concepts which are obvious to women and confident people. (Peterson hints at this by saying that wallflowers could benefit from a degree of psychopathy, though you could express this in less pejorative ways too. Not that I am criticising his use of terminology, it is perfectly valid) Once these timid men realise that they can have success with women, then they can ask themselves more specific questions about exactly which type of woman would suit them in the long haul. 'Genuine competance' is clearly an aspect of attraction between both men and women, but I don't think any aspect of male dating advice would contradict this. If you look at ancient myths and narratives there are many heroic characters who were wild, free, confident and conquering and who are both lovers and fighters until they aren't. Even Shiva, one of the highest deities in the Hindu pantheon was this way. He is said to find the woman who allows him to express his broad and complex nature whilst being with her. The 'how to attract women' aspect of the manosphere, to reiterate, if we apply some fuzzy logic, has its part within the wider gestalt. Indeed, many men leave the manosphere, one hopes, having grasped the deeper side such human psychology centered milieu. Namely, develop a genuine connection to your subconscious mind in a way which makes you an overall life winner.
How on earth people call this man a misogynist is beyond me. He quite literally says women need to be picky about men. The reason people hate him is because he cares about men, he tells them to grow up. He WANTS men to be better and do better.
They call him that because most mainstream media outlets endless vilify and lie about him. They are radicalising otherwise intelligent young people into thinking that saying normal things about human behaviour and desires = problematic. They are basically scum.
As an engineer myself, that little story really opened my eyes. We get so hyper analytical trying to find reason that we forget how actual people talk to each other and joke/entertain artistic thoughts
Most people don't really understand the manosphere stuff. I once read a few pick up websites and books together with a female friend and we both agreed that some of the core principles are actually just 'redressing an imbalance' of male low self esteem. Yes, you might be reflexively thinking 'aren't those books more about confidence tricks and suchlike'. However, the point is that this is not entirely the case. For, example, one manosphere female attracting tip; not reflexively saying excessively negative things about yourself when on a date is (apparently) something the modern woman knows by instinct yet this is clearly not so well understood by men (perhaps because the male on male culture is revels in brutal forms of humour). Also, remember, sometimes these seemingly 'surface' techniques do actually address something deeper. In this case, disciplining your internal monologue (about yourself) can build genuine self esteem, even though it is a 'technique' of sorts. Many manosphere sites recommend being healthy, in good shape and programming your subconscious mind with various positive scripts. Once again, none of these things can be seen as particularly shallow. They are ideas which the modern woman knows will make her more appealing, but the modern man might have forgotten. Even the more 'technique' driven side of flirting with women such as 'be cocky funny', 'have a sense of humour' 'negging' etc. I would suggest there is an unnatural but also a natural side to this. There is also a naturalness via unatural learning aspect to it, as with many things in life. For example, I do not particularly like the concept of 'negging' (nor being cocky) but men who are grounded and have a healthy sense of reality know that no woman or man is beyond seeing themselves in a humorous light. When a person is seeing you as a human, you are less likely to be spooked out by them, be they male or female. Therefore 'kind negging' is not really a technique, it is something which occurs now and then in real interaction. If some men don't realise this, having the 'technique' handed on a spoon to them, might make themselves see the obvious. Some of these manosphere dating sites also, to get across their methodology, borrow from comedic techniques such as lateral and associative thinking under pressure which is absolutely not inherently superficial. Again, if you are a wallflower who doesn't realise why you can't spit anything out when around women (or men), these manosphere blogs are showing you things which are used in the corporate world, in business, in marketing schools etc to coerce the subconscious mind to fluency. A lot of people these days lack general fuzzy logic. Western society itself sometimes can be quite 'deontology seeking' at times when fuzzy logic would serve them better. To apply some fuzzy logic to this topic, you don't have to see the manosphere so cynically if you take a broader view and accept it what it has to offer within a wider gestalt. It's often, for those who dip into it, just a bridge to psychically rebalancing and returning to timid men a bunch of concepts which are obvious to women and confident people. (Peterson hints at this by saying that wallflowers could benefit from a degree of psychopathy, though you could express this in less pejorative ways too. Not that I am criticising his use of terminology, it is perfectly valid, coming from his clinical know how) Once these timid men realise that they can have success with women, then they can ask themselves more specific questions about exactly which type of woman would suit them in the long haul. 'Genuine competance' is clearly an aspect of attraction between both men and women, but I don't think any aspect of male dating advice would contradict this. If you look at ancient myths and narratives there are many heroic characters who were wild, free, confident and conquering and who are both lovers and fighters until they aren't. Even Shiva, one of the highest deities in the Hindu pantheon was this way. He is said to find the woman who allows him to express his broad and complex nature whilst being with her. The 'how to attract women' aspect of the manosphere, to reiterate, if we apply some fuzzy logic, has its part within the wider gestalt. Indeed, many men leave the manosphere, one hopes, having grasped the deeper side such human psychology centered milieu. Namely, develop a genuine connection to your subconscious mind in a way which makes you an overall life winner.
.... Why Jordan why, if you dont give them attention then they will give all the attention they can give to anyone who wants it, on the last breath of *Child* *Support* or whatever it is *That* *by* *Marrying* *gives* *them* *50%* *without* *having* *to* *work* *A* *DAY* *IN* *LIFE.* Other then being taught how PRECIOUS THAT THING IS in between their legs... Small P Energy? more like *SMALL* *V* *ENERGY* LoL You are taking it too seriously, can you save something that *DOESNT* *WORK* *TO* *LIVE?* Thats just *Liability.....* Is what I am saying wrong? And yall say *HONESTY* *IS* *KEY* *2* *FRUITFUL* *RELATIONSHIP*
Most people don't really understand the manosphere stuff. I once read a few pick up websites and books together with a female friend and we both agreed that some of the core principles are actually just 'redressing an imbalance' of male low self esteem. Yes, you might be reflexively thinking 'aren't those books more about confidence tricks and suchlike'. However, the point is that this is not entirely the case. For, example, one manosphere female attracting tip; not reflexively saying excessively negative things about yourself when on a date is (apparently) something the modern woman knows by instinct yet this is clearly not so well understood by men (perhaps because the male on male culture is revels in brutal forms of humour). Also, remember, sometimes these seemingly 'surface' techniques do actually address something deeper. In this case, disciplining your internal monologue (about yourself) can build genuine self esteem, even though it is a 'technique' of sorts. Many manosphere sites recommend being healthy, in good shape and programming your subconscious mind with various positive scripts. Once again, none of these things can be seen as particularly shallow. They are ideas which the modern woman knows will make her more appealing, but the modern man might have forgotten. Even the more 'technique' driven side of flirting with women such as 'be cocky funny', 'have a sense of humour' 'negging' etc. I would suggest there is an unnatural but also a natural side to this. There is also a naturalness via unatural learning aspect to it, as with many things in life. For example, I do not particularly like the concept of 'negging' (nor being cocky) but men who are grounded and have a healthy sense of reality know that no woman or man is beyond seeing themselves in a humorous light. When a person is seeing you as a human, you are less likely to be spooked out by them, be they male or female. Therefore 'kind negging' is not really a technique, it is something which occurs now and then in real interaction. If some men don't realise this, having the 'technique' handed on a spoon to them, might make themselves see the obvious. Some of these manosphere dating sites also, to get across their methodology, borrow from comedic techniques such as lateral and associative thinking under pressure which is absolutely not inherently superficial. Again, if you are a wallflower who doesn't realise why you can't spit anything out when around women (or men), these manosphere blogs are showing you things which are used in the corporate world, in business, in marketing schools etc to coerce the subconscious mind to fluency. A lot of people these days lack general fuzzy logic. Western society itself sometimes can be quite 'deontology seeking' at times when fuzzy logic would serve them better. To apply some fuzzy logic to this topic, you don't have to see the manosphere so cynically if you take a broader view and accept it what it has to offer within a wider gestalt. It's often, for those who dip into it, just a bridge to psychically rebalancing and returning to timid men a bunch of concepts which are obvious to women and confident people. (Peterson hints at this by saying that wallflowers could benefit from a degree of psychopathy, though you could express this in less pejorative ways too. Not that I am criticising his use of terminology, it is perfectly valid, coming from his clinical know how) Once these timid men realise that they can have success with women, then they can ask themselves more specific questions about exactly which type of woman would suit them in the long haul. 'Genuine competance' is clearly an aspect of attraction between both men and women, but I don't think any aspect of male dating advice would contradict this. If you look at ancient myths and narratives there are many heroic characters who were wild, free, confident and conquering and who are both lovers and fighters until they aren't. Even Shiva, one of the highest deities in the Hindu pantheon was this way. He is said to find the woman who allows him to express his broad and complex nature whilst being with her. The 'how to attract women' aspect of the manosphere, to reiterate, if we apply some fuzzy logic, has its part within the wider gestalt. Indeed, many men leave the manosphere, one hopes, having grasped the deeper side such human psychology centered milieu. Namely, develop a genuine connection to your subconscious mind in a way which makes you an overall life winner.
Same. I'm studying bioengineering and there's a lot of female students, but with my friend we send them to hell (with arguments) when they want to keep up with some technical debates lol
Yep. 30 year old engineer with everything going for me. Still can't figure out how to convert the success into a relationship lol. Dates here and there, but not relationships.
You should never tell girls you are an engineer it is a huge turn off and they just see you as a betabux. You should just lie and say you sell weed or make music or something.
I can so relate to his engineer story. As a healthcare professional, even though I was shy and insecure as a teenager, the profession obligated me to interact with many people, young and old, men and women. And it obligates you sometimes to empathize with even young attractive women. This teaches you skills that can also help in a social environment. Engineers don't have that. So in my late 20s I could see how it was easier for me to stike up a conversation with young women, in a nice manner without looking like a creep. My engineer friends were frecuently awkward and totally clueless. JP is right. It was sometimes painful to watch.
I can see why to empathize with anyone, if youre male but think every female you encountered hasnt been evil to their male mates, and females are all benevolent you are the poor bastard who will at the cause of destiny which is simpl your actions and words all of you do and dont say, allows you to become with hard work the man you are good or evil , great and strong weak and feeble, theres many males who empathize with females regardless of what she did, and he counters males whose had it rough and this beta male hasnt developed a and compassion with fixing words in action to allow the good to come to these males. That's why we have to excersize relationships with both sexes and extract good from God and our evil extracted from us to God. I wouldnt wanna be an engineer as male because thaats a mindset similiar to only playing video games and being addicted to hedonism, until you the evil male finds a specific Christian female this girl or woman if shes morally righteous as she should continually action,.will shake such a males evil core of hedonism. Same with astounding moral prounounced male whos physical looks and spirit condemns a evil female filled with evil to the core. Thats it. The truth.
I have been listening to Dr Peterson for about 5 years. My grandson connected me with U-tube, and Jordan Peterson was the first person I heard speak at University. I was immediately in agreement with his philosophy about the value of men. I have been married 52 years. My grandson was 25 years old. Instead of giving him a lecture I would text him a message to listen to Dr Peterson. I love Dr Peterson’s family💖
Seems like a genuinely well balanced guy with his head firmly on the shoulders. God I wish I had the money and time to attend his talks. Also I suspect everyone who attends his talks wishes they could be like him as well.
@@IVLxJAK2 no, I'm not gonna lie, I love dr Jordan Peterson, but seeing him live was a massive disappointment, I found it hard to listen to him and I couldn't see his face. but if you want to just see him in person then it's worth it cos it only costs £60
@@ioannisiatridis2579That’s because it is a scam. Any time you see a comment expressing disbelief over how people haven’t read a certain book, it’s almost always a scam. You’ll see it a lot on finance/self improvement videos.
It's so nice to hear him laugh. The weight on his shoulders is unimaginable, and he bares it for our benefit. He deserves every moment of relief from that burden he can find.
So good to see him smile and be happy , there is always blessings that came out from my heart for this man ,may God bless their family ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
When I was a young lady, I was often very attracted to the kinds of guys he’s talking about here. But I never dated any of them. Because this thing would happen where I started to think about all the fun we’d have and the excitement that this guy might bring. But then a vision of all the misery he’d cause me would rudely interrupted my thoughts. I think of it as my guardian angel. I even once got to see a guy I had known in high school. Years after and he was with his apparent girlfriend and their young kids. He was being very rough and nasty with her. She had visible bruises on her. I felt so sad for her, but I also felt that I had been saved from that situation. Especially after seeing this, I trusted this intuition. I’m happy married with kids and really glad I gave my husband a chance. Because honestly, he didn’t come off as exciting at first as some other fellas. But we’ve had a great marriage and family and a lot of excitement to.
Attracted to what kind of guys? Can you elaborate. Like guys who rode bikes, sounded like they enjoyed life more than responsibility, played the bad boy role?
Mother Nature has devised the most effective and direct ways to ensure the survival of the species and one of those is to fall in love with the person we believe has the best genes and can guarantee the best offspring. Young women are attracted to self-confident and charming men because they appear to have excellent genetic structure. There is nothing wrong with that as these are very powerful mechanisms forged by evolution. Mating with a loving and respectful person is another kettle of fish.
@@fabiofanucciThe mistake Mother nature made was, she didn't take narcissism into consideration. You see, the 90% percentage of women who claim they been fooled by men who only portrayed as the productive, best genes guys. It's because some men, who are Charming and self confident, but their confidence doesn't come from skill or talent, but simply narcissism.
@@kaberigomes2117 I understand your temptation to define this natural tendency as an error, but we should all accept certain mechanisms and behaviors that have their roots in biology. If young women are so attracted to the narcissists then there will be some good (biological) reason. For example, it occurs to me that narcissists are able to defend themselves very well and this alone is no small thing. Many men are as nice as they are unable to protect themselves, let alone others. Furthermore, charming men are often also beautiful, a trait that predicts the goodness of genes and they become very self-confident and narcissistic also because they perceive the physical attraction they exert on women. We should all humbly take these behaviours, without giving them a moral label.
It isn’t “forbidden”, it’s yet another cheesy PUA book you spam all over on the internet. If you young guys want a free, non-scammy PUA book - look into “The Book of Pook”. Actually free and a good read for learning self confidence around women.
@@pizzaparkerhotdogmaguire3225yeah similiar to the atheist male discord mod. Its not merely male engineers. Specifically ATHEIST MALE ENGINEERS. Who are typically pathethic. I guess Lex friedmen is one of those pathethic male engineers but hes less atheistic and knows more that he wants a relationship with a female who calls him to the adventure of his life which is to exist morally next to her. Thats the spoken manifested truth physically so as manifesting by hard work not by magic only God simply manifests .
Yup, it did take me a lot more practice in front of the mirror and emotional maturity to: 1. Withhold the urge to correct her if she's talking about my subject of study and realize she's doing this to have something in common with me; 2. If she's really attractive, withhold the urge to melt right there and keep a composed, confident persona instead of dancing like a little boy finding his favorite shell at the beach. Now I'm happily married but I still remember how hard it was when I was growing up from a boy to a man.
It’s so amazing to listen mr Peterson he’s so right and funny. There’s a lot of real nice women and men out there. Let’s improve and make a difference.
One thing I would highly recommend young men do is to become a volunteer firefighter. If I could go back 20 years and get certified at 20 instead of 40, I truly believe this will make a huge difference for young men. You learn so many cool things, develop confidence, learn things from older mentors, ect. You get to help people and run towards danger. Plus when you tell a woman you are a firefighter, she’s all yours man.
@@fletchong4110 well that's why he said to do it as soon as you can, so you have enough time to do everything else later or while you're doing it cus you sure as hell wouldn't do that many things at the same time when you're old
I am 67 years old. At my age it's really easy to allow yourself to become a lazy, worthless piece of shit. I mean why not I have nothing I need and nothing to prove to anyone. "Why not" is because to be a happy and satisfied man, and therefore to be of any use to you, I have to have a decent amount of self respect and to have that I need to know I am making an effort always to be as good as I can be. Once you get your head around that simple reality it stops being work and starts being the necessary basis of a worthwhile life life.
That’s an excellent way to put it. I’m 30 and have only just become used to the idea of putting in at least some degree of work on myself every single day because it’s just what’s required regardless of how you feel
Competence, 11/25 2:24 confident (not affirmations but proof/evidence that you are who you say you are), productive (not lazy, has aspirations/goals/purpose and works towards them), generosity (brings community/family up through humility and self sacrifice) 2:46, 3:14, 4:29 not troublesome or useless (opposite is competent, problem solving, and useful/beneficial to have) 4:53 be the person = do, work, do the work 6:04 sociability is apart of that work/competence
It’s especially difficult for us engineers when we are around other engineers! I am somewhat socially skilled, but it’s something I continually have to work at. I grew up with sisters who taught me how to empathetic and engaging in social situations. If it were not for them, I probably would have been hopeless.
It’s never too late man. Hard to say for me, I am though exactly 20 years younger and made very bad decisions in the past 3 years and I wish I could show my 15 year old self Jordan’s lectures. But I just have to get up and start
@@tomaskysela9389 well I'd tell my 22 year old self the same thing, better to fail and learn from it than just wonder what if for the rest of your life. And Jordan is right competence/confidence goes a long way. Hope you learn a lot from this man and good luck :)
@@jameseyk1 Thank you very much. I wish you the best too. By the way what helped me with anxiety was sports. I’m not sure how it goes for you, but moving my body around even when I don’t feel like it always makes me a bit euphoric after.. Hope you will do well.
A 40 year old dude who is attractive and has things together should have no trouble finding a woman in here mid to late 20s who wants to start a family.
As a maidenless physicist I find it comically accurate when I got singled out by JBP talking about the two engineers. This happens a lot to me and a mathematician buddy of mine who go out for meals together frequently. Girls somehow tend to hop in our conversations out of the blue and leave before we know it. Beautiful girls too at that! Now it’s not like we’re homosexuals or have a case of ED or anything, it’s just that… when we’re in that “zone” thinking about how to program a special AI or invent something new, there’s only a finite amount of blood circulating around, and so much of it is being pumped into our brains that our other “heads” go into hibernation. Girls if you find guys at the wild talking about amazing STEM topics please watch and listen from a distance. It’s for your own emotional and mental safety. Either jump into the conversation as another person with experience in STEM, or say something so ludicrous and seductive that our blood circulation goes back to normal. Otherwise it’s with great sadness to say, that we won’t even remember your names no matter how pretty you are.
@@joem13yearsago73 we had a third buddy of ours from the humanities department (law) joining us once and he asked the exact same thing after a similar situation reoccurring with a different girl 😂 He was so serious with his question that I had to scientifically prove it to him that I’m not gay. In my defense let me provide an example of why we behave the way we do, I was trying to put it jokingly but here’s why: me and my math buddy are literally going through multi linear perceptrons and transformers and shit with sentimental analysis to make an AI that can have emotions or emulate it to the point that it doesn’t even matter. And this woman said something like “I don’t believe anyone can make emotional bots, you are not god” or some nonsense like that. I’m like “are you blind or something? We’re literally writing the concept in front of you, and do you know the difference between a bot and an AI?”. Between me and my math friend, he’s the kinder person so he gave the proper explanation of “oh no of course we’re not gods, but what does emotions really mean? And how can you prove it? How would I know you have emotions or vice versa? We’re just building a program that can emulate emotions well enough that’s the same thing as talking to a real person” and blah blah blah. Point being these girls who have no idea about what’s going on hop into the conversation thinking their mere existence can provide us with something useful. It’s as if they think what we’re doing is the same as a person talking about sci-fi in a frat party to get chicks. We’re there not just as buddies but also research partners and trying to be productive with the time spent together by publishing papers or hopefully a startup. It’s disrespectful to both of us to hop into the conversation uninvited and try to persuade a multimillion dollar project which will take more than five years of our lives to accomplish, not knowing anything about the field. I don’t care if it’s a man or a woman, if they bring that narcissistic attitude to the table I treat them the same way. And I didn’t know why (well now I do because of my lawyer friend) but it’s usually these girls who dress up nicely that do this. Our lawyer friend (the only one with common sense between us three) told us that those girls are either gold diggers and go nuts over our convo about just how much the GPU costs to train an open AI, or they find our “intellectual” conversation attractive and want to “mate” as JBP put it. Either way I don’t give a f. And it’s not because they’re wasting my time, but they’re wasting my friend’s time. And these friends are people who I would go as far as to call my brothers. I cannot tolerate this level of disrespect to them when they’re trying to be so polite even to the one that’s causing the whole situation.
This was a fun clip. Glad to see both of you laughing and enjoying it. Confident, productive generosity. This is good. But this is only one side of the equation, and I think it’s the side that KEEPS the woman once she has been attracted. In the other videos is the side of the equation that attracts her (which narcissists fake); being dominant, retaining authority, and being about your purpose as men (well that perhaps was productivity). If he is confident, is he going to chase her? Maybe, but it doesn’t translate as confidence. It just doesn’t. This is where your ‘meaning’ message is so important for men. Be busy being productive and let her come to you. Another commenter said this and I think he’s right-on about that. Don’t chase or it comes across as lack of confidence and desperate. Are werewolves and vampires desperate? :) Ha, those five types crack me up… Generous, dominant, authoritative, purposeful (productive) men. Be aggressive out there in the world, you know, 'naming the animals’. Also, we’d love to hear from Mrs. Tammy on this. You said finally, ‘she caught me’…..the answer to all of this could be in those three words! She came to you then? You chased, she ignored, you went on with your purpose??? And then….where is he? What is he doing? Where is his attention going? Then she caught up to you real fast and took you off the market:) What happened there, she has the key that I’m trying to tell you! I”m guessing, but now I’m curious what happened, lol. There are levels of attraction: behaviors that will attract, and behaviors that will retain/sustain the relationship. These are different, both are needed at the right times. However, his purpose and seat of authority must run through the entirety of the relationship. That’s my take. But you know, what the hell do I know!?
I think it depends on how you "chase" a woman. I believe in the concept of courtship, and no matter how much red pill content out there is that tells you that the man is the prize, I wholeheartedly still believe that women are the prize as they are the gatekeepers to creating new life. What's missing in dating advice for both men and women in the world today is the word "good" before the word "man" or "woman". If you meet a good woman, who shares your values and respects herself enough that she doesn't sexually objectify herself to the world, I would say she is the prize no matter how you look at it, if you are a good man. Real social skills are learned in real-life interactions with women when it comes to dating. Social media has distorted those skills and now people want instant gratification. Real relationships rely on observing, spotting, and reacting productively to what is not being texted, messaged, posted in your timeline, or even through video calls. Knowing how to navigate to what is not being said is what is called a connection to your partner, and it won't happen if you rely on social media. It is something you build by physically being with your partner and experiencing things together. I consume a lot of red pill content as well, and I believe they make a lot of sense. But what sticks out to me when they talk about relationships is that they discuss it like it's an ongoing transaction when it needs to be willfully reciprocal. Radical feminists have become more than materialistic in their view of men, men should not behave the same if red pill believes that women are not expected to have value financially, otherwise men will look at women as mere commodities to acquire and trade. If you approach a good woman, "chase" her with respect, fully aware of your boundaries as the stronger sex which automatically makes you a potential threat, when you "chase" but have wisdom and humility in you to know when you should give up, I think this is a more honorable method of trying to find a partner in life. You don't treat it like a game and instead approach it with sincerity, seriousness, and generosity. It will be hard I think, but it has always been hard to find a good man or woman to live the rest of your life with. Just like I believe there are good men out there, I still believe there are good women out there as well. They just need to look for one another in the right places, which definitely means not in nightclubs.
@@parasoul26 I thought red pill believed that women are the prize and are born with value because they can create life, and men are born worthless/ valueless. So men need to build themselves up to be higher value than the mass majority of men, then they become the prize to women. Since they also believe women all chase the top 10-20% of men, that are the "prizes". So since women chase she's 10-20% of men, building yourself up to be a high value man will cause you to be chased.
@@iceman4094 Logically it makes sense, that's why I also watch a lot of red pill content to gauge whether humbling these modern delusional women is starting to work. Building yourself up and achieving is absolutely correct and is needed advice for our young men. It is also true that the top percent of high achieving men are the "prize". But people NEED to put it into context. If it was for the sexual marketplace, absolutely the top percent men are the prize. But for solid, traditional relationships where genuine love is present, they are not at the apex. For us "regular people(the overwhelming majority)" who lived in a two parent household and grew up with values, our model for relationships has always been our own parents and/or grandparents. They were not at the top percent of anything. Just regular people. Think of it this way, take the good and throw away the bad from any idea being espoused, whether red or blue pill, left or right. In short, think for yourself. That's the first. Second, red pill criticizes women whenever they ask for traditional men when these modern women themselves are not traditional. Ask yourself if you truly want a traditional woman. Why? Because if you do, then you need to be a traditional man. It is a two way street. Now if you are looking for a good woman, the highest likelihood is that she is a traditional woman. Bold statement I know, that's why I said "most likely". Now if you want a good woman, you should know that a good woman will never chase a man. A good woman will look at a man, firstly make sure the man is not a threat to her safety, evaluate him, know more about him for a period time until she knows his values and if those values align with hers. A good woman who values herself will never give herself to any man easily, even to a top percent man. So the reality is that men actually DO need to chase if men want to marry good women to bear their children. But like I said in my previous comment, make the approach and "chase" with some class and honor to take your Ls with dignity so that you won't be ashamed to try again until you find your match.
@@parasoul26 I've been out of the dating scene for decades, thank God. I don't know all the current lingo but if this philosophy is working for you, then that's great. Whatever works best for the individual. The great thing is this, in whatever manner you approach relationship, if the philosophy has been honed and matured, it will auto-exclude the women/men who are not a good match for you. The rejection should come early (from either party), the rejection is more easily accepted (your philosophy has done the work for you and IT has been rejected) and that's less time wasted. It's also more accurate...you won't end up chasing only your attraction when the values are misaligned. Or (arguably) worse; settling when the values may align but there's no chemistry/attraction on your part.
it's simple but takes work. Be able to look after her (money and resources), be Physically strong enough and SMART enough to protect her and the child (physical strength and intelligence to navigate the world). Once you have those your confidence will automatically improve and attracting a girl will be easy pz. When they say confidence is wat they find most attractive they dont lie. It's just that in order to be truly confident you need to tick off certain things.
I’m trying so bloody hard my guy. I have anti depressants for my anxiety because otherwise this world is just too overwhelming for me. But once I get on the meds I should be a-okay. I have a job at least, gonna save the money and try to improve myself either going back to school or a trade, and continuous workouts. It’s just frustrating when things get in the way like anxiety or the family holding you back or whatever.
@@BigGamingBossMan good. At least you are trying to move forwards which is a start. First port of call should be to get to a stage where you can ditch AD's as they really fuck you up in the long run. Any idea why you get such insane anxiety?
An outgoing personality is a great help in the ability to talk to women. I'm an Engineer not the best by far but never had an issue with ladies maybe that's why I became a Sales Engineer. Enjoyed meeting new people.
Love u so much man, thanks a lot. ❤ I’m that guy now who is simply getting rejected by every women after i spend some time with them, i believe its too much emotional availability and being super honest and tell whatever i think, which really relationships doesn’t work that way, but yeah like you said the problem is also that I’m young and pretty much useless so no car, Job or anything of importance 😅. I have to man up and i also believe that with getting a great Job, Car and financial security i can find someone great.
1) be confident (good hygiene, good health, solid career) 2) be calm but know you can handle a problem if it comes along 3) be happy but don't smile too much that's it
I havent even thought about 3 before. Its definitely a fault of mine when I am feeling really good, I go from looking neutral 90% of the time to smiling a whole day like an idiot.
That's exactly why u like this don't u because hes not the best example for this topic. This is misleading advice for men. And why include women we are not the same
I love the clarity. The question is if this is a natural tendency (put on the pedestal), how can you remain interested and faithful once you remove the princess from the pedestal and see fully the human? Part of the secret of long term relationship is the admiration and seeing them a little at least on a pedestal.
well it work if you can provide high standards too, that the main problem of the women who are looking for men like that. It's not just what THEY want.
thats because engineers brains are strongly programmed to 'spot out the numbers/ fact' and the equations leading to these numbers. In the real life its more about 'how you play/ how you alter reality' as 'how it really is'. Think about it more like a theater of some sort. Or a other style of art. Art is not the best, if its just factual and clear. In fact, art mostly shines, when it has different meanings, opens up different perspectives and makes you 'think' or feel different about something. Generally saying, this processes also occur in the non mathematical side of our brains. Maybe it helps, if you start reading non mathematical stuff. You know, the literatur about drama, love storys etc. See it as a kind of field study. And of course some humor and compliments always help, conquering the heart of a woman :D
Ideally, you want to have her attention from the moment you walk in the room. It makes things substantially easier. You can even get away with a few 'mistakes'.
Many STEM people really dont know what they are doing around other people. At my university i observe situations Like in JPs Story all the time. Thoose conversations are among the funniest Things i ever witnessed. And if i wouldnt have trained my social skills by a lot i would be right among them.
He played them all for the last 2m , he was the conductor of the orchestra , told them it was funny befor he said anything then used his hands to tell them when to laugh , he done lots more also, the man really is a master to do it so blatant for students to probably watch ba k at university's in class in the future.... looking away as he's talking is directly telling you he is not interested, he deliberatly over used every basic body language action during that engineer part, changed his leg position from side to front , he coverd the full list , the says there was a very attractive woman at this bar , about our age ,, hand signals directly involving the entire audience , thats manipulating the audience and in such and exaggerated manner , hahahaa, what a guy... he done so much at the end , master piece
@@evedotcom Yeah its kind of old fashioned but its also very reasonable compared to the alternative if you ask me. I know lots of women who have, lets say, changed their minds along the way. Maybe they'd have benefitted from a fathers 30+ years of experience.
Interesting perspective! I bet there are many more reasons than one, but it sure sounds like a valuable reason for young girls to get support and feedback in choosing a partner.
@@ponternal Yeah if you take a look at the modern dating market you can see how that turns out. Women tend to fuck away their best years on somewhat casual hookups only to turn 30 wondering where all the good men have gone. Thats certainly not what fathers were worried about prior to birth control but they essentially solved the same problem: Protecting their girls from hooking up with useless guys.
As a software engineer from Ukraine, I have no idea what JP talks about. Here software engineer/developer could potentially be any type of person, sociable extrovert, taciturn introvert, etc. Probably, situation in the USA is quite different and people see in the engineers some kind of geek in the first place P.S. And I guess times change, 15-20 years ago an average dev looked a bit different from today. Nowadays, many people just want "short way" to be able to travel and work remotely, IT works very well for that goal 🙂
you might be able to revoke his psychology license, but you'll never be able to revoke his rizzology license
Most people don't really understand the manosphere stuff. I once read a few pick up websites and books together with a female friend and we both agreed that some of the core principles are actually just 'redressing an imbalance' of male low self esteem. Yes, you might be reflexively thinking 'aren't those books more about confidence tricks and suchlike'. However, the point is that this is not entirely the case.
For, example, one manosphere female attracting tip; not reflexively saying excessively negative things about yourself when on a date is (apparently) something the modern woman knows by instinct yet this is clearly not so well understood by men (perhaps because the male on male culture is revels in brutal forms of humour). Also, remember, sometimes these seemingly 'surface' techniques do actually address something deeper. In this case, disciplining your internal monologue (about yourself) can build genuine self esteem, even though it is a 'technique' of sorts.
Many manosphere sites recommend being healthy, in good shape and programming your subconscious mind with various positive scripts. Once again, none of these things can be seen as particularly shallow. They are ideas which the modern woman knows will make her more appealing, but the modern man might have forgotten.
Even the more 'technique' driven side of flirting with women such as 'be cocky funny', 'have a sense of humour' 'negging' etc. I would suggest there is an unnatural but also a natural side to this. There is also a naturalness via unatural learning aspect to it, as with many things in life.
For example, I do not particularly like the concept of 'negging' (nor being cocky) but men who are grounded and have a healthy sense of reality know that no woman or man is beyond seeing themselves in a humorous light. When a person is seeing you as a human, you are less likely to be spooked out by them, be they male or female.
Therefore 'kind negging' is not really a technique, it is something which occurs now and then in real interaction. If some men don't realise this, having the 'technique' handed on a spoon to them, might make themselves see the obvious.
Some of these manosphere dating sites also, to get across their methodology, borrow from comedic techniques such as lateral and associative thinking under pressure which is absolutely not inherently superficial.
Again, if you are a wallflower who doesn't realise why you can't spit anything out when around women (or men), these manosphere blogs are showing you things which are used in the corporate world, in business, in marketing schools etc to coerce the subconscious mind to fluency.
A lot of people these days lack general fuzzy logic. Western society itself sometimes can be quite 'deontology seeking' at times when fuzzy logic would serve them better.
To apply some fuzzy logic to this topic, you don't have to see the manosphere so cynically if you take a broader view and accept it what it has to offer within a wider gestalt. It's often, for those who dip into it, just a bridge to psychically rebalancing and returning to timid men a bunch of concepts which are obvious to women and confident people. (Peterson hints at this by saying that wallflowers could benefit from a degree of psychopathy, though you could express this in less pejorative ways too. Not that I am criticising his use of terminology, it is perfectly valid)
Once these timid men realise that they can have success with women, then they can ask themselves more specific questions about exactly which type of woman would suit them in the long haul. 'Genuine competance' is clearly an aspect of attraction between both men and women, but I don't think any aspect of male dating advice would contradict this.
If you look at ancient myths and narratives there are many heroic characters who were wild, free, confident and conquering and who are both lovers and fighters until they aren't. Even Shiva, one of the highest deities in the Hindu pantheon was this way. He is said to find the woman who allows him to express his broad and complex nature whilst being with her.
The 'how to attract women' aspect of the manosphere, to reiterate, if we apply some fuzzy logic, has its part within the wider gestalt. Indeed, many men leave the manosphere, one hopes, having grasped the deeper side such human psychology centered milieu. Namely, develop a genuine connection to your subconscious mind in a way which makes you an overall life winner.
@@tommckellen4289 omg you wrote an entire essay 😂
@@baltimorewhisperer lollllllllllllll
Foreign nation should give him license if Canada denies him for political reasons
Found the cringe tik tok user
How on earth people call this man a misogynist is beyond me. He quite literally says women need to be picky about men. The reason people hate him is because he cares about men, he tells them to grow up. He WANTS men to be better and do better.
nobody actually think that about him. it's the cancel culture AKA media trying to brainwash ppl as usual cause he doesn't fit their narrative
They call him that because most mainstream media outlets endless vilify and lie about him. They are radicalising otherwise intelligent young people into thinking that saying normal things about human behaviour and desires = problematic. They are basically scum.
Too true bro
And the system wants us weak!!!
Well he is an old White cis men... He got to be misogystic
As an engineer myself, that little story really opened my eyes. We get so hyper analytical trying to find reason that we forget how actual people talk to each other and joke/entertain artistic thoughts
Pre selection and social proof . Read the unplugged alpha by Richard cooper
Read the Art of Seduction by Robert Greene
@@SmallsGang_773 its mostly bs, read the unplugged alpha by richard cooper
@@RR-et6zp you sound like the engineer... The art of seduction teaches you not to be argumentative and be smooth and seductive.
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Lmao at the end, so good to see JP laughing and healthy again
He looks like he's dying
very wholesome isnt it
Most people don't really understand the manosphere stuff. I once read a few pick up websites and books together with a female friend and we both agreed that some of the core principles are actually just 'redressing an imbalance' of male low self esteem. Yes, you might be reflexively thinking 'aren't those books more about confidence tricks and suchlike'. However, the point is that this is not entirely the case.
For, example, one manosphere female attracting tip; not reflexively saying excessively negative things about yourself when on a date is (apparently) something the modern woman knows by instinct yet this is clearly not so well understood by men (perhaps because the male on male culture is revels in brutal forms of humour). Also, remember, sometimes these seemingly 'surface' techniques do actually address something deeper. In this case, disciplining your internal monologue (about yourself) can build genuine self esteem, even though it is a 'technique' of sorts.
Many manosphere sites recommend being healthy, in good shape and programming your subconscious mind with various positive scripts. Once again, none of these things can be seen as particularly shallow. They are ideas which the modern woman knows will make her more appealing, but the modern man might have forgotten.
Even the more 'technique' driven side of flirting with women such as 'be cocky funny', 'have a sense of humour' 'negging' etc. I would suggest there is an unnatural but also a natural side to this. There is also a naturalness via unatural learning aspect to it, as with many things in life.
For example, I do not particularly like the concept of 'negging' (nor being cocky) but men who are grounded and have a healthy sense of reality know that no woman or man is beyond seeing themselves in a humorous light. When a person is seeing you as a human, you are less likely to be spooked out by them, be they male or female.
Therefore 'kind negging' is not really a technique, it is something which occurs now and then in real interaction. If some men don't realise this, having the 'technique' handed on a spoon to them, might make themselves see the obvious.
Some of these manosphere dating sites also, to get across their methodology, borrow from comedic techniques such as lateral and associative thinking under pressure which is absolutely not inherently superficial.
Again, if you are a wallflower who doesn't realise why you can't spit anything out when around women (or men), these manosphere blogs are showing you things which are used in the corporate world, in business, in marketing schools etc to coerce the subconscious mind to fluency.
A lot of people these days lack general fuzzy logic. Western society itself sometimes can be quite 'deontology seeking' at times when fuzzy logic would serve them better.
To apply some fuzzy logic to this topic, you don't have to see the manosphere so cynically if you take a broader view and accept it what it has to offer within a wider gestalt. It's often, for those who dip into it, just a bridge to psychically rebalancing and returning to timid men a bunch of concepts which are obvious to women and confident people. (Peterson hints at this by saying that wallflowers could benefit from a degree of psychopathy, though you could express this in less pejorative ways too. Not that I am criticising his use of terminology, it is perfectly valid, coming from his clinical know how)
Once these timid men realise that they can have success with women, then they can ask themselves more specific questions about exactly which type of woman would suit them in the long haul. 'Genuine competance' is clearly an aspect of attraction between both men and women, but I don't think any aspect of male dating advice would contradict this.
If you look at ancient myths and narratives there are many heroic characters who were wild, free, confident and conquering and who are both lovers and fighters until they aren't. Even Shiva, one of the highest deities in the Hindu pantheon was this way. He is said to find the woman who allows him to express his broad and complex nature whilst being with her.
The 'how to attract women' aspect of the manosphere, to reiterate, if we apply some fuzzy logic, has its part within the wider gestalt. Indeed, many men leave the manosphere, one hopes, having grasped the deeper side such human psychology centered milieu. Namely, develop a genuine connection to your subconscious mind in a way which makes you an overall life winner.
@@tommckellen4289 Dude get a life
@@lartdesenrichir6871 Why do you think it takes a significant chunk out of my life to write that?
Watchig Jordan Petersons lectures feels like a standup sometimes,loving it!
.... Why Jordan why, if you dont give them attention then they will give all the attention they can give to anyone who wants it, on the last breath of *Child* *Support* or whatever it is *That* *by* *Marrying* *gives* *them* *50%* *without* *having* *to* *work* *A* *DAY* *IN* *LIFE.*
Other then being taught how PRECIOUS THAT THING IS in between their legs... Small P Energy? more like *SMALL* *V* *ENERGY* LoL You are taking it too seriously, can you save something that *DOESNT* *WORK* *TO* *LIVE?* Thats just *Liability.....* Is what I am saying wrong? And yall say *HONESTY* *IS* *KEY* *2* *FRUITFUL* *RELATIONSHIP*
I dont even think thats funny...dumb people who cannot understand the real deep meaning of those sentences just laugh
Most people don't really understand the manosphere stuff. I once read a few pick up websites and books together with a female friend and we both agreed that some of the core principles are actually just 'redressing an imbalance' of male low self esteem. Yes, you might be reflexively thinking 'aren't those books more about confidence tricks and suchlike'. However, the point is that this is not entirely the case.
For, example, one manosphere female attracting tip; not reflexively saying excessively negative things about yourself when on a date is (apparently) something the modern woman knows by instinct yet this is clearly not so well understood by men (perhaps because the male on male culture is revels in brutal forms of humour). Also, remember, sometimes these seemingly 'surface' techniques do actually address something deeper. In this case, disciplining your internal monologue (about yourself) can build genuine self esteem, even though it is a 'technique' of sorts.
Many manosphere sites recommend being healthy, in good shape and programming your subconscious mind with various positive scripts. Once again, none of these things can be seen as particularly shallow. They are ideas which the modern woman knows will make her more appealing, but the modern man might have forgotten.
Even the more 'technique' driven side of flirting with women such as 'be cocky funny', 'have a sense of humour' 'negging' etc. I would suggest there is an unnatural but also a natural side to this. There is also a naturalness via unatural learning aspect to it, as with many things in life.
For example, I do not particularly like the concept of 'negging' (nor being cocky) but men who are grounded and have a healthy sense of reality know that no woman or man is beyond seeing themselves in a humorous light. When a person is seeing you as a human, you are less likely to be spooked out by them, be they male or female.
Therefore 'kind negging' is not really a technique, it is something which occurs now and then in real interaction. If some men don't realise this, having the 'technique' handed on a spoon to them, might make themselves see the obvious.
Some of these manosphere dating sites also, to get across their methodology, borrow from comedic techniques such as lateral and associative thinking under pressure which is absolutely not inherently superficial.
Again, if you are a wallflower who doesn't realise why you can't spit anything out when around women (or men), these manosphere blogs are showing you things which are used in the corporate world, in business, in marketing schools etc to coerce the subconscious mind to fluency.
A lot of people these days lack general fuzzy logic. Western society itself sometimes can be quite 'deontology seeking' at times when fuzzy logic would serve them better.
To apply some fuzzy logic to this topic, you don't have to see the manosphere so cynically if you take a broader view and accept it what it has to offer within a wider gestalt. It's often, for those who dip into it, just a bridge to psychically rebalancing and returning to timid men a bunch of concepts which are obvious to women and confident people. (Peterson hints at this by saying that wallflowers could benefit from a degree of psychopathy, though you could express this in less pejorative ways too. Not that I am criticising his use of terminology, it is perfectly valid, coming from his clinical know how)
Once these timid men realise that they can have success with women, then they can ask themselves more specific questions about exactly which type of woman would suit them in the long haul. 'Genuine competance' is clearly an aspect of attraction between both men and women, but I don't think any aspect of male dating advice would contradict this.
If you look at ancient myths and narratives there are many heroic characters who were wild, free, confident and conquering and who are both lovers and fighters until they aren't. Even Shiva, one of the highest deities in the Hindu pantheon was this way. He is said to find the woman who allows him to express his broad and complex nature whilst being with her.
The 'how to attract women' aspect of the manosphere, to reiterate, if we apply some fuzzy logic, has its part within the wider gestalt. Indeed, many men leave the manosphere, one hopes, having grasped the deeper side such human psychology centered milieu. Namely, develop a genuine connection to your subconscious mind in a way which makes you an overall life winner.
@@tommckellen4289 Also, adopt a meat-only lunatic diet like Peterson and whatever you do, NEVER go near apple cider. 😂
That too
As an engineer, that story was too real.
Same. I'm studying bioengineering and there's a lot of female students, but with my friend we send them to hell (with arguments) when they want to keep up with some technical debates lol
Yep. Cinfirmed. We are hopeless...
I agree, as an engineer
Yep. 30 year old engineer with everything going for me. Still can't figure out how to convert the success into a relationship lol. Dates here and there, but not relationships.
You should never tell girls you are an engineer it is a huge turn off and they just see you as a betabux. You should just lie and say you sell weed or make music or something.
I can so relate to his engineer story. As a healthcare professional, even though I was shy and insecure as a teenager, the profession obligated me to interact with many people, young and old, men and women. And it obligates you sometimes to empathize with even young attractive women. This teaches you skills that can also help in a social environment.
Engineers don't have that. So in my late 20s I could see how it was easier for me to stike up a conversation with young women, in a nice manner without looking like a creep. My engineer friends were frecuently awkward and totally clueless.
JP is right. It was sometimes painful to watch.
yea but at the same time they're tripling your salary bro
There's not enough money in this world.....
@rebinu They might be tripling his salary, but he's tripling their body count 😂
I can see why to empathize with anyone, if youre male but think every female you encountered hasnt been evil to their male mates, and females are all benevolent you are the poor bastard who will at the cause of destiny which is simpl your actions and words all of you do and dont say, allows you to become with hard work the man you are good or evil , great and strong weak and feeble, theres many males who empathize with females regardless of what she did, and he counters males whose had it rough and this beta male hasnt developed a and compassion with fixing words in action to allow the good to come to these males. That's why we have to excersize relationships with both sexes and extract good from God and our evil extracted from us to God. I wouldnt wanna be an engineer as male because thaats a mindset similiar to only playing video games and being addicted to hedonism, until you the evil male finds a specific Christian female this girl or woman if shes morally righteous as she should continually action,.will shake such a males evil core of hedonism. Same with astounding moral prounounced male whos physical looks and spirit condemns a evil female filled with evil to the core. Thats it. The truth.
I do rather have planes and computers working perfectly than everybody playing the bonobo’s game
Sharing his knowledge with the audience, while roasting them politly... What a brilliant man!
I have been listening to Dr Peterson for about 5 years. My grandson connected me with U-tube, and Jordan Peterson was the first person I heard speak at University. I was immediately in agreement with his philosophy about the value of men. I have been married 52 years. My grandson was 25 years old. Instead of giving him a lecture I would text him a message to listen to Dr Peterson. I love Dr Peterson’s family💖
Ah youre mabey good grand mother. Continually good woman. God bless you.
I love listening to him. To see him happy and lighthearted is a bonus.
Seems like a genuinely well balanced guy with his head firmly on the shoulders. God I wish I had the money and time to attend his talks. Also I suspect everyone who attends his talks wishes they could be like him as well.
Maybe if you could touch the hem of his garment?
I actually went to one of his talks, they're really rubbish, you can barely hear or see him, but worth it just for one visit
@@raulpaulinho Do you think that might've had something to do with the seat you bought?
@@IVLxJAK2 no, I'm not gonna lie, I love dr Jordan Peterson, but seeing him live was a massive disappointment, I found it hard to listen to him and I couldn't see his face. but if you want to just see him in person then it's worth it cos it only costs £60
The guy is a solid dork, but he's freaking brilliant.
The story about the engineers made me laugh out loud 😂😂
And he's right on with them too... lol...
Same story happened to my college nerdy self of mine countless times - was too late to figure it out.
as an engineer its funny and true... sadly
@@kuko6 how can you relate to this? curious to know
I am always impressed with his suits.
P.S. that was a lovely comment about Mrs. Peterson "I chased her for a long time then she caught me"
Haha lovely 😍🌹 thanks 🙏👍 speak these words for me mann!
The fact that nobody talks about the book Casanova Optimization of Attraction speaks volumes about how people are stuck in their dating life
Where can I get this book? I only found one or two sites that look like a scam..
@@ioannisiatridis2579That’s because it is a scam. Any time you see a comment expressing disbelief over how people haven’t read a certain book, it’s almost always a scam. You’ll see it a lot on finance/self improvement videos.
@@ioannisiatridis2579it is a scam. Probably the OP is a bot
2k likes and no comments. Robot users liking this post.
Evolution of Desire by David Buss is your best bet in this domain.
It was refreshing to see Jordan Peterson telling a story like a normal guy. Just being funny and relatable and not so overly intellectual.
Definitely clean, competent, confidence, cheeky and caring.
Definitely agreeable face proportions and bone structure and levels of body hair, oh and don't forget the requirements down below.
It's so nice to hear him laugh. The weight on his shoulders is unimaginable, and he bares it for our benefit. He deserves every moment of relief from that burden he can find.
That was a particularly nice clip of you, Mr Peterson. Made me feel good to see you in such high spirits. 😎👍
There’s something so powerful about the way he pauses to collect his thoughts before he speaks/answers. His brain is fascinating
So good to see him smile and be happy , there is always blessings that came out from my heart for this man ,may God bless their family ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
So delighted to see Dr. Peterson In a such a great mood, laughing and enjoying the time with his wife and the audience. God bless you Sir
When I was a young lady, I was often very attracted to the kinds of guys he’s talking about here. But I never dated any of them. Because this thing would happen where I started to think about all the fun we’d have and the excitement that this guy might bring. But then a vision of all the misery he’d cause me would rudely interrupted my thoughts. I think of it as my guardian angel. I even once got to see a guy I had known in high school. Years after and he was with his apparent girlfriend and their young kids. He was being very rough and nasty with her. She had visible bruises on her. I felt so sad for her, but I also felt that I had been saved from that situation. Especially after seeing this, I trusted this intuition. I’m happy married with kids and really glad I gave my husband a chance. Because honestly, he didn’t come off as exciting at first as some other fellas. But we’ve had a great marriage and family and a lot of excitement to.
Attracted to what kind of guys? Can you elaborate. Like guys who rode bikes, sounded like they enjoyed life more than responsibility, played the bad boy role?
Did you contact the local police for the battered woman?
Mother Nature has devised the most effective and direct ways to ensure the survival of the species and one of those is to fall in love with the person we believe has the best genes and can guarantee the best offspring. Young women are attracted to self-confident and charming men because they appear to have excellent genetic structure. There is nothing wrong with that as these are very powerful mechanisms forged by evolution. Mating with a loving and respectful person is another kettle of fish.
@@fabiofanucciThe mistake Mother nature made was, she didn't take narcissism into consideration. You see, the 90% percentage of women who claim they been fooled by men who only portrayed as the productive, best genes guys. It's because some men, who are Charming and self confident, but their confidence doesn't come from skill or talent, but simply narcissism.
@@kaberigomes2117 I understand your temptation to define this natural tendency as an error, but we should all accept certain mechanisms and behaviors that have their roots in biology. If young women are so attracted to the narcissists then there will be some good (biological) reason. For example, it occurs to me that narcissists are able to defend themselves very well and this alone is no small thing. Many men are as nice as they are unable to protect themselves, let alone others. Furthermore, charming men are often also beautiful, a trait that predicts the goodness of genes and they become very self-confident and narcissistic also because they perceive the physical attraction they exert on women. We should all humbly take these behaviours, without giving them a moral label.
it's kinda crazy how nobody's talking about the forbidden ebook called secrets of the elusive girl
can you share me the pdf of it.
bro its like 8 bucks
@@Mysterr77 Bro I am from India and making a payment in dollars is tough here especially it is not available in amazon but some different website
It isn’t “forbidden”, it’s yet another cheesy PUA book you spam all over on the internet.
If you young guys want a free, non-scammy PUA book - look into “The Book of Pook”. Actually free and a good read for learning self confidence around women.
Just the best thing to say for this book is POWERFUL!
"Women are female humans. If you were a woman you'd be just like a woman."
JP with the hot takes as usual
but it cuts both ways.
A stand-up gentleman. How could anyone hate this man?
"Engineers are the only men who never figured out how to turn social status into mating opportunities." - Jim Keller
You sure it wasn't sun tzu?
Still engineers are single af.
@@pizzaparkerhotdogmaguire3225 😂😂Oww man God bless you, you made me laugh!
@@pizzaparkerhotdogmaguire3225yeah similiar to the atheist male discord mod. Its not merely male engineers. Specifically ATHEIST MALE ENGINEERS. Who are typically pathethic. I guess Lex friedmen is one of those pathethic male engineers but hes less atheistic and knows more that he wants a relationship with a female who calls him to the adventure of his life which is to exist morally next to her. Thats the spoken manifested truth physically so as manifesting by hard work not by magic only God simply manifests .
"social status" is bs, only looks matter
Yup, it did take me a lot more practice in front of the mirror and emotional maturity to: 1. Withhold the urge to correct her if she's talking about my subject of study and realize she's doing this to have something in common with me; 2. If she's really attractive, withhold the urge to melt right there and keep a composed, confident persona instead of dancing like a little boy finding his favorite shell at the beach.
Now I'm happily married but I still remember how hard it was when I was growing up from a boy to a man.
Good to see him healthy and relaxed :)
It’s so amazing to listen mr Peterson he’s so right and funny. There’s a lot of real nice women and men out there. Let’s improve and make a difference.
Too bad Peterson the lying Nazi con artist isn't one of them.
Wow!!! So lovely to watch and listen to. They are both so happy with each other. I love them 😊❤
Danke!
" She caught me !......" Best line ever Sir. Thank you. At 52 I still have a shot ! Cheers from Australia ! 👍😎👍
Dr. Peterson is a gem and his wife is a lovely partner for him. 💙 Thank you for making the world a better place.
If he has his way, the world will NOT be a better place.
Why is that? Is it because he won't allow the government to control his speech?
I love how much fun Jordan is having here.
"Turn yourself into someone who's worth being around."
Very true.
Now tell that to women.
They aren't hearing it
It's good to see jordan relaxed and chuckling while delivering ice cold truths
Teaching us the ways of rizz. Thank you man
you might be able to revoke his psychology license, but you'll never be able to revoke his rizzology license
Using the word rizz is neither funny nor helps with the women thing.
@@fairshareofdrownedsouls L opinion
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I can relate to the story of the engineers because I’m one of them. 😂
One thing I would highly recommend young men do is to become a volunteer firefighter. If I could go back 20 years and get certified at 20 instead of 40, I truly believe this will make a huge difference for young men. You learn so many cool things, develop confidence, learn things from older mentors, ect. You get to help people and run towards danger. Plus when you tell a woman you are a firefighter, she’s all yours man.
Been a firefighter in a big city for 35 years. You speak the truth.
In the face of inflation we can’t afford to do low paying volunteer work if we want to be able to afford a family
@@fletchong4110 well that's why he said to do it as soon as you can, so you have enough time to do everything else later or while you're doing it cus you sure as hell wouldn't do that many things at the same time when you're old
Don't you need a driver's license?
"You bloody engineers, you wonder why it's hard for you to mate" ...He called us out 🤣🤣
yeah...im sure it has nothing to do with your looks...
I am 67 years old.
At my age it's really easy to allow yourself to become a lazy, worthless piece of shit.
I mean why not I have nothing I need and nothing to prove to anyone.
"Why not" is because to be a happy and satisfied man, and therefore to be of any use to you, I have to have a decent amount of self respect and to have that I need to know I am making an effort always to be as good as I can be.
Once you get your head around that simple reality it stops being work and starts being the necessary basis of a worthwhile life life.
That’s an excellent way to put it. I’m 30 and have only just become used to the idea of putting in at least some degree of work on myself every single day because it’s just what’s required regardless of how you feel
Nice to see Jordan's sense of humor every now & again...he's usually as serious as his subject matters
Love Dr. Peterson & his family + 99% of what they do!
Competence, 11/25
2:24 confident (not affirmations but proof/evidence that you are who you say you are), productive (not lazy, has aspirations/goals/purpose and works towards them), generosity (brings community/family up through humility and self sacrifice)
2:46, 3:14, 4:29 not troublesome or useless (opposite is competent, problem solving, and useful/beneficial to have)
4:53 be the person = do, work, do the work
6:04 sociability is apart of that work/competence
Confident, productive, generosity.
It’s especially difficult for us engineers when we are around other engineers! I am somewhat socially skilled, but it’s something I continually have to work at.
I grew up with sisters who taught me how to empathetic and engaging in social situations. If it were not for them, I probably would have been hopeless.
You are hopeless
Well... who cares?
Are male engineers able to talk to female engineers without an issue since they are both engineers?
With competence. I always see that clearly when I go skating. My skill is obvious and the gazes from everybody are warming my heart😁👂✌
It makes me super happy when he laughs and giggles, because I usually see him depressed.
How could you not love this guy
Intelligent, articulate, humorous and independent minded. Total legend 🙌 They can drag him all they want, game will always recognize game.
42 year old here with anxiety issues all his life, my god I wish I could show my 18 year old self this video.
It’s never too late man. Hard to say for me, I am though exactly 20 years younger and made very bad decisions in the past 3 years and I wish I could show my 15 year old self Jordan’s lectures. But I just have to get up and start
@@tomaskysela9389 well I'd tell my 22 year old self the same thing, better to fail and learn from it than just wonder what if for the rest of your life. And Jordan is right competence/confidence goes a long way. Hope you learn a lot from this man and good luck :)
@@jameseyk1 Thank you very much. I wish you the best too. By the way what helped me with anxiety was sports. I’m not sure how it goes for you, but moving my body around even when I don’t feel like it always makes me a bit euphoric after.. Hope you will do well.
well its not to late. also i think alan watts is better for anxiety issues. check him up when u got the time
A 40 year old dude who is attractive and has things together should have no trouble finding a woman in here mid to late 20s who wants to start a family.
As a maidenless physicist I find it comically accurate when I got singled out by JBP talking about the two engineers.
This happens a lot to me and a mathematician buddy of mine who go out for meals together frequently.
Girls somehow tend to hop in our conversations out of the blue and leave before we know it.
Beautiful girls too at that!
Now it’s not like we’re homosexuals or have a case of ED or anything, it’s just that…
when we’re in that “zone” thinking about how to program a special AI or invent something new, there’s only a finite amount of blood circulating around, and so much of it is being pumped into our brains that our other “heads” go into hibernation.
Girls if you find guys at the wild talking about amazing STEM topics please watch and listen from a distance. It’s for your own emotional and mental safety. Either jump into the conversation as another person with experience in STEM, or say something so ludicrous and seductive that our blood circulation goes back to normal. Otherwise it’s with great sadness to say, that we won’t even remember your names no matter how pretty you are.
You sure you straight?
@@joem13yearsago73 we had a third buddy of ours from the humanities department (law) joining us once and he asked the exact same thing after a similar situation reoccurring with a different girl 😂
He was so serious with his question that I had to scientifically prove it to him that I’m not gay.
In my defense let me provide an example of why we behave the way we do, I was trying to put it jokingly but here’s why:
me and my math buddy are literally going through multi linear perceptrons and transformers and shit with sentimental analysis to make an AI that can have emotions or emulate it to the point that it doesn’t even matter. And this woman said something like “I don’t believe anyone can make emotional bots, you are not god” or some nonsense like that. I’m like “are you blind or something? We’re literally writing the concept in front of you, and do you know the difference between a bot and an AI?”. Between me and my math friend, he’s the kinder person so he gave the proper explanation of “oh no of course we’re not gods, but what does emotions really mean? And how can you prove it? How would I know you have emotions or vice versa? We’re just building a program that can emulate emotions well enough that’s the same thing as talking to a real person” and blah blah blah. Point being these girls who have no idea about what’s going on hop into the conversation thinking their mere existence can provide us with something useful. It’s as if they think what we’re doing is the same as a person talking about sci-fi in a frat party to get chicks.
We’re there not just as buddies but also research partners and trying to be productive with the time spent together by publishing papers or hopefully a startup.
It’s disrespectful to both of us to hop into the conversation uninvited and try to persuade a multimillion dollar project which will take more than five years of our lives to accomplish, not knowing anything about the field.
I don’t care if it’s a man or a woman, if they bring that narcissistic attitude to the table I treat them the same way.
And I didn’t know why (well now I do because of my lawyer friend) but it’s usually these girls who dress up nicely that do this. Our lawyer friend (the only one with common sense between us three) told us that those girls are either gold diggers and go nuts over our convo about just how much the GPU costs to train an open AI, or they find our “intellectual” conversation attractive and want to “mate” as JBP put it. Either way I don’t give a f. And it’s not because they’re wasting my time, but they’re wasting my friend’s time. And these friends are people who I would go as far as to call my brothers. I cannot tolerate this level of disrespect to them when they’re trying to be so polite even to the one that’s causing the whole situation.
I love this comment.
@@probablynot4163 your username makes your comment kinda sus
Look at the woman he got, then look at his daughter, then look at who he works with.
Then it's obvious to never listen to Jordan Peterson.
Probably one of my all time favorite JP clips 😂
Step one: be a stud
Step two: there is no step two
yup. its all about looks
Alway be looking to create value in some way. This attracts both money and women.
Amen
I love when people are intellectuals but also have a sense of humour
This was a fun clip. Glad to see both of you laughing and enjoying it.
Confident, productive generosity. This is good. But this is only one side of the equation, and I think it’s the side that KEEPS the woman once she has been attracted. In the other videos is the side of the equation that attracts her (which narcissists fake); being dominant, retaining authority, and being about your purpose as men (well that perhaps was productivity).
If he is confident, is he going to chase her? Maybe, but it doesn’t translate as confidence. It just doesn’t. This is where your ‘meaning’ message is so important for men. Be busy being productive and let her come to you. Another commenter said this and I think he’s right-on about that. Don’t chase or it comes across as lack of confidence and desperate. Are werewolves and vampires desperate? :) Ha, those five types crack me up…
Generous, dominant, authoritative, purposeful (productive) men. Be aggressive out there in the world, you know, 'naming the animals’. Also, we’d love to hear from Mrs. Tammy on this. You said finally, ‘she caught me’…..the answer to all of this could be in those three words! She came to you then? You chased, she ignored, you went on with your purpose??? And then….where is he? What is he doing? Where is his attention going? Then she caught up to you real fast and took you off the market:) What happened there, she has the key that I’m trying to tell you! I”m guessing, but now I’m curious what happened, lol.
There are levels of attraction: behaviors that will attract, and behaviors that will retain/sustain the relationship. These are different, both are needed at the right times. However, his purpose and seat of authority must run through the entirety of the relationship. That’s my take.
But you know, what the hell do I know!?
I bet you've read the full Rational male series. Takes one to know one.
I think it depends on how you "chase" a woman. I believe in the concept of courtship, and no matter how much red pill content out there is that tells you that the man is the prize, I wholeheartedly still believe that women are the prize as they are the gatekeepers to creating new life. What's missing in dating advice for both men and women in the world today is the word "good" before the word "man" or "woman". If you meet a good woman, who shares your values and respects herself enough that she doesn't sexually objectify herself to the world, I would say she is the prize no matter how you look at it, if you are a good man. Real social skills are learned in real-life interactions with women when it comes to dating. Social media has distorted those skills and now people want instant gratification. Real relationships rely on observing, spotting, and reacting productively to what is not being texted, messaged, posted in your timeline, or even through video calls. Knowing how to navigate to what is not being said is what is called a connection to your partner, and it won't happen if you rely on social media. It is something you build by physically being with your partner and experiencing things together.
I consume a lot of red pill content as well, and I believe they make a lot of sense. But what sticks out to me when they talk about relationships is that they discuss it like it's an ongoing transaction when it needs to be willfully reciprocal. Radical feminists have become more than materialistic in their view of men, men should not behave the same if red pill believes that women are not expected to have value financially, otherwise men will look at women as mere commodities to acquire and trade.
If you approach a good woman, "chase" her with respect, fully aware of your boundaries as the stronger sex which automatically makes you a potential threat, when you "chase" but have wisdom and humility in you to know when you should give up, I think this is a more honorable method of trying to find a partner in life. You don't treat it like a game and instead approach it with sincerity, seriousness, and generosity. It will be hard I think, but it has always been hard to find a good man or woman to live the rest of your life with. Just like I believe there are good men out there, I still believe there are good women out there as well. They just need to look for one another in the right places, which definitely means not in nightclubs.
@@parasoul26 I thought red pill believed that women are the prize and are born with value because they can create life, and men are born worthless/ valueless. So men need to build themselves up to be higher value than the mass majority of men, then they become the prize to women. Since they also believe women all chase the top 10-20% of men, that are the "prizes". So since women chase she's 10-20% of men, building yourself up to be a high value man will cause you to be chased.
@@iceman4094 Logically it makes sense, that's why I also watch a lot of red pill content to gauge whether humbling these modern delusional women is starting to work. Building yourself up and achieving is absolutely correct and is needed advice for our young men. It is also true that the top percent of high achieving men are the "prize". But people NEED to put it into context. If it was for the sexual marketplace, absolutely the top percent men are the prize. But for solid, traditional relationships where genuine love is present, they are not at the apex. For us "regular people(the overwhelming majority)" who lived in a two parent household and grew up with values, our model for relationships has always been our own parents and/or grandparents. They were not at the top percent of anything. Just regular people.
Think of it this way, take the good and throw away the bad from any idea being espoused, whether red or blue pill, left or right. In short, think for yourself. That's the first. Second, red pill criticizes women whenever they ask for traditional men when these modern women themselves are not traditional. Ask yourself if you truly want a traditional woman. Why? Because if you do, then you need to be a traditional man. It is a two way street. Now if you are looking for a good woman, the highest likelihood is that she is a traditional woman. Bold statement I know, that's why I said "most likely". Now if you want a good woman, you should know that a good woman will never chase a man. A good woman will look at a man, firstly make sure the man is not a threat to her safety, evaluate him, know more about him for a period time until she knows his values and if those values align with hers. A good woman who values herself will never give herself to any man easily, even to a top percent man. So the reality is that men actually DO need to chase if men want to marry good women to bear their children. But like I said in my previous comment, make the approach and "chase" with some class and honor to take your Ls with dignity so that you won't be ashamed to try again until you find your match.
@@parasoul26 I've been out of the dating scene for decades, thank God. I don't know all the current lingo but if this philosophy is working for you, then that's great. Whatever works best for the individual. The great thing is this, in whatever manner you approach relationship, if the philosophy has been honed and matured, it will auto-exclude the women/men who are not a good match for you. The rejection should come early (from either party), the rejection is more easily accepted (your philosophy has done the work for you and IT has been rejected) and that's less time wasted. It's also more accurate...you won't end up chasing only your attraction when the values are misaligned. Or (arguably) worse; settling when the values may align but there's no chemistry/attraction on your part.
it's simple but takes work. Be able to look after her (money and resources), be Physically strong enough and SMART enough to protect her and the child (physical strength and intelligence to navigate the world). Once you have those your confidence will automatically improve and attracting a girl will be easy pz.
When they say confidence is wat they find most attractive they dont lie. It's just that in order to be truly confident you need to tick off certain things.
I’m trying so bloody hard my guy. I have anti depressants for my anxiety because otherwise this world is just too overwhelming for me. But once I get on the meds I should be a-okay.
I have a job at least, gonna save the money and try to improve myself either going back to school or a trade, and continuous workouts. It’s just frustrating when things get in the way like anxiety or the family holding you back or whatever.
@@BigGamingBossMan good. At least you are trying to move forwards which is a start. First port of call should be to get to a stage where you can ditch AD's as they really fuck you up in the long run. Any idea why you get such insane anxiety?
I like JP is simultaneously giving great advice and Roasting us at the same time. We call that "Tough Love" lol
The laughter at 2:56 is so adorable ❤ I'm going to use it as notification sound for new videos of him 😊
It’s precious
Totally enjoyed this Beautiful couple ❤thank you
I am so grateful to be able to watch the best QnA parts of Jordan’s talks. Bless the TH-cam,
as strange as that sounds
Damn, 😂 lol JP being an outright Monster with Control right here
An outgoing personality is a great help in the ability to talk to women. I'm an Engineer not the best by far but never had an issue with ladies maybe that's why I became a Sales Engineer. Enjoyed meeting new people.
What's that?
He is so wonderful to listen too...
The way he looks at his wife. What a kind good man ❤
This man is a legend.
my boi Jordan in absolute fire, very funny and I'm glad he looks so healty now :D
finally he addressed andrew tate
GOLD!ACTUAL PSYCHOLOGICAL GOLD!
I'm Loving This❤️❤️❤️
As a woman I have never felt so seen by an older man. Thank you for your wisdom Dr. Peterson😂
God bless you and your family Jordan, Amen.
Love u so much man, thanks a lot. ❤
I’m that guy now who is simply getting rejected by every women after i spend some time with them, i believe its too much emotional availability and being super honest and tell whatever i think, which really relationships doesn’t work that way, but yeah like you said the problem is also that I’m young and pretty much useless so no car, Job or anything of importance 😅.
I have to man up and i also believe that with getting a great Job, Car and financial security i can find someone great.
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I just love your honesty and wisdom. You could be a stand up comedian too.
Oh God bless Jordan Peterson, its so nice to hear his laughter, I wish more years of life for him and his, we need his teachings
1) be confident (good hygiene, good health, solid career)
2) be calm but know you can handle a problem if it comes along
3) be happy but don't smile too much
that's it
Where the hell did you get point 3 in the video?
@@earlofsandwich7884 lol they're not points from the video, it's just my .02
Solid advice. You want your smiles to be rare currency haha
I havent even thought about 3 before. Its definitely a fault of mine when I am feeling really good, I go from looking neutral 90% of the time to smiling a whole day like an idiot.
4) Don’t study engineering lol
Lol "...before i say sth else"😂 this was enjoyable to watch. Love to see him in a comfortable crowd.😁
Jordan Peterson, you are a wonderful human.
Great to see him laughing and having fun with the audience. Fantastic message to both young men and women too.
That's exactly why u like this don't u because hes not the best example for this topic. This is misleading advice for men. And why include women we are not the same
I'm just happy to see jordan smiling again..
Matt Walsh’s question answered! Thanks Jordan
I love the clarity. The question is if this is a natural tendency (put on the pedestal), how can you remain interested and faithful once you remove the princess from the pedestal and see fully the human? Part of the secret of long term relationship is the admiration and seeing them a little at least on a pedestal.
i like how the crowd goes silent when jordan takes time to think
I like this more casual side of him… it’s even more endearing.
Confidence and self-assurance in a man is definitely what I was looking for in a husband. I set high standards and I got what I wanted
Not necessarily high status qualities
well it work if you can provide high standards too, that the main problem of the women who are looking for men like that. It's not just what THEY want.
Yeah... 5'4 ugly with confidence and self-assurance.
Honest man ✨☺️ what will we do without you Dr.Peterson
I'm a engineer and I approve this message.
For 200,000 years if a women couldn’t get a man’s attention and be respectful to him she would never leave home and die alone.
As an engineer, our social skills is such a big problem. We can't advertise ourselves well enough.
thats because engineers brains are strongly programmed to 'spot out the numbers/ fact' and the equations leading to these numbers. In the real life its more about 'how you play/ how you alter reality' as 'how it really is'. Think about it more like a theater of some sort. Or a other style of art. Art is not the best, if its just factual and clear. In fact, art mostly shines, when it has different meanings, opens up different perspectives and makes you 'think' or feel different about something. Generally saying, this processes also occur in the non mathematical side of our brains. Maybe it helps, if you start reading non mathematical stuff. You know, the literatur about drama, love storys etc. See it as a kind of field study. And of course some humor and compliments always help, conquering the heart of a woman :D
even reading this sounds like a bot wrote it LOL
@@Vugen18 😂😂😂
Funny
@@janosch7210 Its mostly about looks imagine some ugly mofo learning poetry and shit
Problem aint your social skills problem is your looks. If you look like a nerd people will treat you like one.
Ideally, you want to have her attention from the moment you walk in the room. It makes things substantially easier. You can even get away with a few 'mistakes'.
Many STEM people really dont know what they are doing around other people.
At my university i observe situations Like in JPs Story all the time.
Thoose conversations are among the funniest Things i ever witnessed.
And if i wouldnt have trained my social skills by a lot i would be right among them.
He played them all for the last 2m , he was the conductor of the orchestra , told them it was funny befor he said anything then used his hands to tell them when to laugh , he done lots more also, the man really is a master to do it so blatant for students to probably watch ba k at university's in class in the future.... looking away as he's talking is directly telling you he is not interested, he deliberatly over used every basic body language action during that engineer part, changed his leg position from side to front , he coverd the full list , the says there was a very attractive woman at this bar , about our age ,, hand signals directly involving the entire audience , thats manipulating the audience and in such and exaggerated manner , hahahaa, what a guy... he done so much at the end , master piece
"The falsely confident can fool young women"
Is that why historically the father had to accept a womans suitor?
I’m sure there’s multiple reasons to discern if they’re a worthy match and protect their daughter
@@evedotcom Yeah its kind of old fashioned but its also very reasonable compared to the alternative if you ask me. I know lots of women who have, lets say, changed their minds along the way. Maybe they'd have benefitted from a fathers 30+ years of experience.
Interesting perspective! I bet there are many more reasons than one, but it sure sounds like a valuable reason for young girls to get support and feedback in choosing a partner.
Historically father had to accept because marriage was for status and finance while women sexually select primarily for excitement and looks
@@ponternal Yeah if you take a look at the modern dating market you can see how that turns out. Women tend to fuck away their best years on somewhat casual hookups only to turn 30 wondering where all the good men have gone. Thats certainly not what fathers were worried about prior to birth control but they essentially solved the same problem: Protecting their girls from hooking up with useless guys.
As a software engineer from Ukraine, I have no idea what JP talks about. Here software engineer/developer could potentially be any type of person, sociable extrovert, taciturn introvert, etc.
Probably, situation in the USA is quite different and people see in the engineers some kind of geek in the first place
P.S. And I guess times change, 15-20 years ago an average dev looked a bit different from today. Nowadays, many people just want "short way" to be able to travel and work remotely, IT works very well for that goal 🙂
He's back and judging from his latest Joe Rogan appearance he is back for good
1:42 man almost called himself out on wearing "sharp suits" 😂
What a great stand up lecture Jordan
"advertise yourself" that's the part that was missing and it's really useful when you think about it cause it's how it is at the end
Was at that show. Was amazing. But as an engineer I felt called out lol. Our social game is nonexistent.
Man is he articulate just straight speaking facts