Ride an Intercity 125 with a Contactless Card
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- What I really wanted to call this video, was "The Only Place Where You Can Catch An Intercity HST 125 Train By Using A Bank Contactless Card", but that's a bit of a mouthful.
It occurs because Luton Airport Parkway has now been added to the area in London where you can pay using a non-Oyster Contactless Card. And seeing as East Midlands Railway stop some HST's there, I thought it was worth a ride ...
Thanks to everyone one Twitter a couple of weeks ago who responded to my "Which Diagrams are always Class 43/HST?", you were all very helpful with your kind responses.
A note also to acknowledge that it was a Scotrail HST set that was involved in the Stonehaven crash recently, hence out of respect I refrained from mentioning how many of these units they have, as they now obviously have one less.
Finally, if you've read this far to the bottom of the comments, WELL DONE, you may go ahead and type "Slidey Windows, Slammy Doors!" in the comments below to confuse everyone else!
This is the textbook definition of 'niche'. Sir, I salute your dedication to the cause for staying overnight in Luton to film this video!
Uuh Luton is an actually city and not only a fake London Airport? 🙃
Oxford Dictionary definition of 'niche': Geoff Marshall
@@einbaerchen2995 yep it’s actually a town, albeit a big one... but it’s a horrible place.
🤣🤣
@@einbaerchen2995 fake airport? Its not and is very close to London
SLIDEY WINDOWS
SLAMMY DOORS.
I feel a T-shirt coming on..........
"Slidey Windows, Slammy Doors!" Count me in for a T-shirt too.👍👌😁
I'd buy one!!!
Also, aren;t intercity 125's new? (end childhood memories :( )
I don't understand why everyone is in love with slam doors. I prefer automatic sliding doors that they have on the voyager and other modern trains. They just look better, unlike the dirty, broken slam doors.
Plus one here for a t-shirt.
@@apeami8953 Don't think I've 𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒓 seen a "broken" slam door and how is a slam door dirtier than a plug door?
The reason for their popularity among enthusiasts is simple: you can lean out these windows. This gives you a breath of air and lets you see, hear and smell the loco. Not important to a "normal" passenger but how many "normals" watch Geoff's videos?
on the last day of these trains, i expect you to wear a SLIDEY WINDOWS SLAMMY DOORS shirt.
For so long was one of the best things about Greater Anglia main line.
@@michaelgreen1515 GA got rid of all it's good trains, sadly. The HSTs on the GWML are the ones I miss the most :(
@@benjamintery7847 yep doing 120 Paddington to Reading and Didcot with the window down
@@jamesrobinson9194 even better: an 8 car HST showing up at small stations like Colwall🥰
Geoff: I heard emr are using some old lner hsts
Also Geoff: RIDING ON A LNER HST
I never thought I'd miss the HST (Class 43) sets, but seeing nothing but the new Hitachi units on the GWR these days, watching this video made me realise that I really do miss them! Thanks Geoff for another great video! ;-)
Its truly amazing the amount of knowledge Geoff has on railways
Fascinating
And always enjoyable
hi geoff i wanna say i really appreciate your videos, right now im in year 11 and i really love learning about trains and they've become my passion so thank you for your videos they really educate me
Same I'm in year 11 now actually in my Christmas holiday I really lived trains now and they have become my passion all because of Geoff and I am so grateful for him to make these great videos!
A super niche video featuring the legendary HST. Thanks Geoff, really appreciate it.
Another great video Geoff. Please keep them going as they are so well produced.
Love your niche videos. Even though I'm not a rail enthusiast I find your fascination with all things rail and train fascinating.
thanks Caroline, very kind!
Slidey Windows, Slammy Doors!
I enjoy these niche videos! Having never been to the UK, there's a chance they could be hard to understand, but having watched many of your other videos I feel there's a good context. I also appreciate your usage of the printed maps and the hand drawn maps to further illustrate your points.
I stayed last night in Luton
Somebody has to
🤣🤣🤣 Geoff you're getting funnier with age mate!
I did that once (early flight). I know exactly what you mean!
Nobody...nobody, stays there by choice.
I've paused the video at that point to come look at the comments. Poor Geoff - I did it once, never again!
I live in Luton and it really is a world class sh#t hole.
"Slidey Windows, Slammy Doors" os such a good name for a band!!
These are the kind of videos that have me coming back to the channel every week month after month, year after year. Going to ride this train as a Christmas treat I think :)
These are the kinds of videos (along with least used and request stops) are my favorites from you
I miss slidey windows and slammy doors so much. Was very sad to see the last bubble car retire, and will be even sader to see the 125 go.
9:15 43 423, former Grand Central Class 43, the last to be powered by a Paxman Valenta (hence the nameplate) and my personal favourite HST Power Car!
Formally 43123 before the buffer refit, I got a picture of me in it’a original BR Blue Intercity colours in Dundee when I was 7, my first up close with one after getting the Hornby set!
I remember the Valentas fondly but also having working ears is nice too
Andy MacRae I thought the renumbering was when it was re engined
Naenae Gaming - AdelanteGuy you are right, my mistake
So great to have a small number of these iconic trains still running for the time being at least. I believe EMR are the only operator to have the VP185 engined power cars. Smashing video as always Geoff!
Thanks a lot Geoff. I absolutely love those Class 43's. I had a friend who was an engineer for British Rail and I was allowed to take a hst set from Kings Cross to Bounds Green depot. Great fun!
Regarding the pricing between contacless and paper tickets,
Travelling from St Albans and Harpenden, it can work out significantly cheaper to use contactless for one way and open return journeys, but significantly more to do so for day return journeys.
For example, an anytime single (the only one available) from StA to StP is 12.90, but contactless is around 10.00peak/8.00off-peak. The same applies between these two stations where an open return isn't an option with a paper ticket, so you just have to do two single tickets. But then say you used contactless on the return it'd be 16.00, when you could have paid 13.50 for a super off peak. So even if you have a railcard, it can end up cheaper using contactless rather than a paper ticket.
Same for West Hamstead, and many other stations within boundaries zones 1&2, Gatwick Airport etc as well.
Kinda stupid and confusing but then that's the ticketing system for you...
I miss these HST's on GWR.. So nice, I love hearing them from the inside!
I hated the switchover from fgw, why get rid of an amazing livery with amazing trains, such a bummer
@@ahoyittttt7802 I know right?
Feels like you're properly back Geoff. Really glad to see it. :-)
What a great video. Interesting and wonderful trains. Keep up the good work. Love the slides windows and slammy doors.
When I've been on the Scotrail 125's the conductors make a long announcment explaining how to open the window, open the door, shut the window again, for the benefit of younger passengers who just stand there waiting for the doors to open automatically! Having to do something for themselves is a new experience for some of them!
Yeah, we’re losing basic skills to technology at an alarming rate.
@@TheMysticDave There have been very few if any Scotrail trains that weren't electric or pneumatic sliding doors since the 60s. I was in my mid 20s before being on a slam door train in London in the 90s
@@TheMysticDave Yes, like people walking around town with their eyes glued to the arrow on their phone telling them where to go - yet when presented with a map of Great Britain are unable to correctly place the ten major cities (Leeds, Liverpool etc.). I could go on......
Lots of times in the past arriving at Bath on HST seen foreign tourists looking for the button to press or the handle to turn in order to get off. And then pannicing. Welcome to olde world England where you have to push the window down and lean out to open the door!
@@Clivestravelandtrains BACK IN MY DAY
That's quite something, Class 43 HST sets on routes that previously run Pacers
Super video Geoff - thank you. Brought back many memories of many journies to and from York to King Cross in the late 1970s and early 80s, after the Deltics had finished
Yes, Geoff, this is a properly niche video BUT your obvious enthusiasm for what you are doing is just lovely to see and offsets any and all disinclination towards a chosen topic.
Oh, and of course: SLIDEY WINDOWS, SLAMMY DOORS!
Slidey Windows, Slammy Doors.
7:52 glad to see that it’s not only me that ends up with more sharpie on my hand than the paper!
Be as niche as you want - love it.
"are they taking those away?"
"they they're taking our 12.....FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!"
XD
Awesome! Love these kind of videos Geoff!!
im from australia and the last time i went on the tube let alone england was when i was 12. yet i love these niche videos of yours, i just find them so fascinating even if im not always quite sure whats going on. slidey windows, slammy doors!!
"Slidey Windows, Slammy Doors!" oh the memories.
I remember when the HST's were introduced and we all hated them for replacing Deltics. Still have some resentment towards them for that.
Funny, because I was really excited by the new HST, whilst still loving Deltics.
Celtics better, no contest
I worked on deltics on ships would like to know how they sounded on rail, is there any videos of them running on TH-cam?
@@williammoore9609 try searching TH-cam for Deltic Roar, or even just Deltics. Try this one on for size th-cam.com/video/KW8DwsrsbFQ/w-d-xo.html It was the sound that really set them apart
@@ravenfeeder1892 thanks you
One of your best Geoff... when you are happy we all are happy too! Can it be that long ago when I first saw a 125 sweeping round the curve into Berkhamsted - just magnificent! They were brand new then and now they are going - but they are still brilliant plus the sheer terror of people not being able to find a door handle as the train comes to rest at their station was always a joy :D
125s didn't run through Berkhampsted very often, a handful on the Holyhead services, and certainly not when they were brand new. (they first appeared on the Great Western and East Coast main lines, and didn't appear on West Coast Main line services until some of the ECML units were displaced by IC225s)
I love your love of all trains - keep up the excellent work
When Virgin Voyager trains were first introduced on their (then) CrossCountry service I travelled on them from East Croydon to Kensington Olympia using a zones 2 - 6 paper one day Travelcard ticket! The route travelled was entirely outside Zone 1. Before travelling I did first confirm that Travelcards were accepted on Virgin Trains.
"Slidey Windows, Slammy Doors!"
Please keep making the niche videos.
Great video mate I really like watching your videos there really cool wow your on a fast train😌👍
Great to see a real nerdy type video, Geoff, I love em! I also love the HST's, great to see you on a 'proper train' - can't beat them! And living down in Devon, it interests me to hear that GWR are still using a few class 43's, albeit in different configurations to the HST, I shall keep my eye open for them - would be most strange to see one of them making an appearance at my local station in Barnstaple!
GWR have 13 sets 4 carriages + power cars running between Penzance and Cardiff. GWR also have 2 spare power cars . Maintained a Laira depot
@@AndrewLuckett22 I'm not going to see one on the Barnstaple branch then, I will have to go down to Tiverton Parkway to get my class 43 fix.
When you filmed the HST set arrived in Luton airport it was EMR but was clearly a ex LNER set
Which he confirmed in the video...
I drive 40 miles from where I live to the north York moors railway just to ride on mk1s with slam doors and sliding windows.
I would not refer to your videos as weird but eclectic but call them what you will. Either way you make interesting and enjoyable videos. Thanks! Of course I live in a city with NO underground, overground, tram or other but instead we have buses and one passenger train that leaves a nearby city around 6 am and goes up the east coast stopping in places like Washington DC, NY and Boston. I was blessed once several years ago to come to London and enjoy what trains I could get to in an afternoon.
Love your videos ... keep up the great work
I still want to go on an HST, being too young to have ever been on them and living on the WCML, might have to try this out soon, just want to hear that satisfying door slam
I guess the question is where on the WCML. There is still an hourly crosscountry HST from New Street.
That sounds like a good combination: "Two power cars at either end" (4:30). Double-headed HST here we come :-D
(forgive me for the interpretation but couldn't resist it!!)
xD
Slidey windows, Slammy doors!! Well done Geoff!! I hope the HST’s don’t disappear before I come there in 2021. 🚅✈️
Looks like a smooth, quiet and altogether delightful experience
Geoff is a legend. Coming up with crazy ideas. Legend
Geoff: There is a rumour that EMR have the old LNER set trains
Me: You are riding on one with red LNER seats and LNER displays and engines
Also I live near the midland mainline and I've seen a lot of LNER trains locally recently, branded as EMR's.
So I don't think this is just a rumour
He mentions this in the video around the 06:40 mark.
Watch the bloody video before you start hammering impotently on your keyboard.
grex 9101 angry much
@@elliesanders885 Not really. Thanks for asking. Presumably, you were asking. Difficult to tell when you can't be bothered to punctuate.
grex 9101 Because we’re not all aggressive arrogant arseholes trying to act hard?
Geoff I'm literally in Canada, no plans of going to the UK any time soon. And I love your niche videos the most.
Geoff I love seeing all of your videos no matter the topic. I am an American who was stationed over in the UK for 3 1/2 years and miss it all.
"Slidey Windows, Slammy Doors!"
"It's got slam doors, It's got slidy windows, non of this electric nonsense", Thats what i like to summaries trains as and what most should be like, but without the diesel smell though
It's nice to see you use the line with which I am most familiar (Bedford - St. Pancras), and on a 125, too!
Great video. How cool are the 125s ! I remember them from the 80s .
Geoff, you are an absolute total train geek! And we love it :)
What do you mean "niche"? I'm not even british, and I still subscribe to your channel, loving every second of it!
Maybe not one off your best videos but you make the subject sound very interesting. Must be great in a way travelling on trains at the moment with it being so quite.
Niche is fun; it's what we have come to expect from you. Great tradition; a bit like Bill Frindle's cricket statistics on the radio!
6:26 I live near here jeff and I can confirm the electric cables have been installed through Kettering then up the Corby branch line at Glendon Junction BUT do not go further then Glendon up to Market Harborough and Leicester.
"Slimey windows Slimey doors! "
Please continue to make such niche videos! They are awesome! 👍👍👍
Good morning Geoff.
Just watching this video for the umpteenth time whilst sitting in a class 43 (low back seats) about to leave St Pancras.
Totally awesome 👌
@@Bungle2010 Ok. Sitting on a seat in a carriage being pulled by a class 43.....
EMR HST's set to continue until roughly May 2021
Geoff: I heard EMR are getting LNER sets.
Geoff, your riding in a ex-LNER set!
Western Champion Man 2008 I believe that’s the joke
Ben Goldachre. Two hero’s in one video. Thx for cheering us up Geoff
You so have to do a last proper HST video! Loving this!
Geoff! Excellent video. I can only assume the readers at St Pancras are only calibrated for Thameslink and EMR smart cards? Which brings me on my question Geoff. Have you any experience with Train Operator own Smartcards? I.E the key from Southern and South Eastern or Touch by GWR and SWR?
"Sometimes you just have to catch a proper train" Well said. And it's sad to see these 125s go. Also, seeing Luton Airport reminded me of the Airline series from 1998, I loved that show
Hello
EMR running HST's until mid 2021
Arthur TV on TH-cam has several clips from _Airline_ - search ‘Arthur TV airline freak outs’.
He also occasionally looks back at the show with Leo, who was one of the airline check-in crew featured in the show.
As you say it’s a great series 👍😀
Geoff I love you your videos are so so good for knowing how to use transport etc.
I'm here for the niche videos. Great episode. Thanks Geoff.
I remember when “Real” trains had a loco at the front and HST were considered modern rubbish
I remember* when "real" trains were drawn by horses with a signalman walking in front, and Stephenson's Rocket was considered modern rubbish.
*not really
Funny comment but I'm not sure the IC125 was ever considered modern rubbish, it was just so stunning when introduced, especially for me the way you wouldn't notice that the train was already on the move when departing (although now they're older you get the carriages bumping into each other a bit when departing).
My parents' Dutch friend was very impressed and thought that safety belts should be considered, they were so fast.
now the HST are old rubbish.
Fair enough, "Slidey Windows, Slammy Doors". Loved the video Geoff.
GWR own the 2+3 sets and the 2+4 sets and some of them haven’t been adapted yet. Unfortunately I don’t have the TOPS number of the coaches. Great video as always Geoff!
None are 2+3, they’re all 2+4 sets
9:39 those pads are for National rail smart cards only, such as the southeastern key. You can’t touch oyster or contactless on them. Notice how they have a different symbol than the oyster ones. I travel regularly within Kent and these are all over the place down here and everywhere in Britain in general
Conversely, there’s an equivalent of the oyster/contactless pad independent of the gateline, for NR smartcards. At Hitchin there’s one of these for the Thameslink Key smartcard for when the gateline is closed outside staffed hours, and you have to go out of the side exit. You need to touch that with the Key to complete a pay as you go or season ticket journey.
@@mattscarf where I am I don’t always need to touch on a reader but you can validate the ticket using your phone or a ticket vending machine.
I'm here for the niche stuff. MORE TRAINS.
Why am I watching these videos. No interest in trains but here I am subscribed and watching every new video
Yes, that was indeed very niche, and I loved every minute of it.
Slidey Windows, Slammy doors
Here from twitter ;)
There's a special blue pullman hst rail tour leaving St Pancras at 0900 14 november
WOW...
That'd be worth a trip into town.
TheChipmunk2008 I’ve found you from bigclivelive... 😁
Yes and i'm on it, cant wait
@@peterscutt2253 are you making a video?
Geoff, I just took one of the world's great rail journeys a week ago on the Kuranda Rail (in Cairns, QLD)- you'll be pleased to know there's slidey windows & very slammy doors on that! Along with dramatic cliff drops on one side of the train, and a waterfall on the other! When borders open up again you must come to Australia and do it!
Ah real trains I agree. One time heading to Buckingham I took an odd route just to be able to take an old diesel commuter running between Bedford and Bletchley. It reminded me of the trains we road between Largs and Glasgow- diesel and multiple slammy doors for carriages.
It’s a shame that loads of HST’s Are Retiring From Service But Scotrail, Cross Country, And East Midlands Railway Still Have Their 43’s
And GWR still have them in the west
Round here, GWR are using shortened 4-car sets as local stopping services. The intercity services are now operated by 800/802s. Sadly, the Mk3 carriages have had their slam doors replaced with electric ones.
Scotrail have done away with the slammy doors and slidey windows.
@Max-Leo Amberg 4 coaches and electric doors
@@alexanderstevenson6484 Some of them are 8 car sets which come through Bristol down to Plymouth. It's also probably the fastest you'll be able to go on one post GWML retirement, they hit around 110MPH on some parts of the line now.
I really like the new liveries that EMR have on the 222s and the HSTs.
If your talking about the aubergine Livery that's only on the 222's and the DMU's the HSTs won't be getting it
@@steamingaroundbritain Oops. My bad. From afar, all the EMR stock look the same!
@@steamingaroundbritain One's started being shopped into it now as they're keeping them longer
@@BenedictC cool
Back in the mid 80s I used to regularly travel on the CLC route from Lime St to Hough Green, through Allerton (now Liverpool South Parkway). On Sundays the train was often a claggy Class 31 hauling ancient Mk I and II stock, sometimes even corridor. At that time Hough Green was in its own unique zone, C7. This meant you could spend a good forty minutes behind a loco on an Area C Saveaway!
No such luck nowadays, and they changed the zones in the 90s so you need an All Zone for that journey today.
Cheers Geoff, that train brings back happy memories
For a moment I forgot that HSTs have been gone from the GWML (Paddington-Reading) for some time... 🤯
Over a year now, 18th May 2019
I want those comfortable chairs back, the new trains are horrendously uncomfortable!
@@petervaughan9111 I've nick named them the Borg, due to the black pipes and they're so noisy!.
I was /properly/ confused when I saw the title, thinking "surely you can buy a ticket with contactless at any staffed station, so long as the fare's under £30 (or £45 if it's changed like supermarket contactless limits have)?" I've been out of London too long...
(as an aside, if you give the ear-loops of your mask a half twist so the loop on each side forms a figure-eight you may find you get a better fit at the top and sides )
There's effectively no contactless limit using Apple/Android Pay apps on your smartphone as Geoff did.
A great niche video Geoff, once you realised you were on an ex LNER set, I believe you got all the HST facts correct!
Another fantastic and interesting video thank you
Whilst its great to be on a class 43 HST and paying with Contactless, is it possible to travel on a Class 800 Hitachi and pay with Contactless? I was thinking Paddington/ Reading.
No recorded announcements. Everything is great about a 125.
Which is illegal under modern regulations since many disabled people (such as those with visual impairments) rely on consistent audible announcements
Alasdair Clift Not recorded =/= inaudible
Jordan Quite often it does, particularly on these sets considering the announcement system is essentially unchanged since they were built
I love the recorded announcements
On older NYC subway cars the announcements are occasionally good, but usually too quiet, sometimes so loud the speakers distort, and very often at a good volume and clear - but totally indecipherable. Apparently learning to speak clearly or without so much of a foreign accent not a word is understandable is not a skill they teach. Then there's the woman on a train I ride a lot who makes the announcements like she's screaming at a bunch of third graders on the playground. Again, no speech training.
hi geoff
what can i say what a great video and brill news that the hst lovers can still grab a hst full length with our fav slam door and open windows.
i so miss the full length hsts out of plymouth and london paddington.
peter from birmingham
Great video Geoff stay safe👍
25 years ago, my mission was to try and catch an Intercity train using just a basic one day travelcard. I managed it, with a ride from Kensington Olympia to Clapham Junction. Imagine if that train was still about now, Jeff would be doing a video "Today, the only way you can catch an Intercity using a basic one day travelcard."
When did HST's run along that line?
@@FenneXanthous Not all Intercity trains were HST, some were loco-hauled, including most intercity trains from Euston and Liverpool Street at the time. Kensington Olympia had six such trains, one each way from Folkestone Central to Manchester Piccadilly, one each way from Brighton to Manchester Piccadilly and one each way from Brighton to Glasgow Central and Edinburgh.
once i was trying to get a intercity from kensington olimpia to clapham junon
"Old LNER set" Big tick there then!!
Nice video Geoff. GWR’s HSTs run between Plymouth and Penzance. Went on them a week ago.
Sad to see these go.
First visited the UK when I was 10 and I already fell in love with them (back then they still had the intercity 125 swallow livery), and it took me 16 years till I had the chance to ride on one.
And yes, I'm already missing the slidey windows, slammy doors.
Yes a proper train - with seats which match up with windows.