Intercity Trains Back on the West Coast Main Line
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Rail tour company Locomotive Services Ltd (but using the "Intercity" as their trading name) have started running a Friday only service between Crewe and London Euston followed by a return service to Manchester Piccadiilly. It's a throwback to 'proper' trains of a locomotive hauling coaches with comfortable seats, which I love so it was time to take a ride.
Roger has also blogged about this here: busandtrainuse...
Book your trip on the Intercity train here: inter-city.co....
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Thanks for having me on the channel Geoff! 🫡(And thanks for bringing the good weather after my southbound from Crewe was a washout earlier that day!) ☀️ 🌧
@@geofftech2 (sorry mum)
@@Paul_Lucas lol
Love that you both finally got to do a video together. You both do great content.
It's such a treat to see two of my favourite TH-cam personalities in one video!!!
Great to see you both in a video together. About chuffin' time too! :)
Good on those young fellas at Piccadilly. Gladdens the heart to see that the same affection for the railways exists now like it always did. Nice one lads.
Absolutely. they reminded me of a young Geoff running around chasing Tube station world records !
Except you can't lean out of the windows cos they're locked shut.
My Lordz 😂
“Slide-y windows, slammy doors.” - The motto on the Geoff Marshall Coat of Arms.
Most people would have lions rampant, griffons or swords and shields on their coat. Geoff's will be those words and a rectangular door, and people will wonder what the heck was he thinking 😁😅
fenestras labatur et fores adfligendos
Yeh Slidey windows abd slammy doors. Another person with bad English.
Nice to see younger generation passionate about older rolling stock and trains in general. Great vid as per usual 👌
It reassures you about the younger generation 😀
Seeing those young lads all enthusiastic about rail travel has literally made my day. What pleasant people, good luck to all of them.
My son who is 18 is passionate about railways in general, the travelling as well as the rolling stock. He’s such a rail ‘geek’ that even in a drama for example he can tell if the coaches or trains are right for the route & era.
as one of said young people in the video, many thanks 😅
@soiung toiue due to a few reasons involving legal issues, lack of available rolling stock, maintenance issues - the company who runs this train only have one suitable set of coaches, and all their locomotives are on average about 40 years old, so reliability is a major issue when compared to the more modern trains of the avanti competition
That chap hit the nail on the head when he said the joy and the comfort has been taken out of rail travel these days. And don't forget the extortionate prices they are charging for that lack of joy and comfort. I loved travelling on the railways when I was a kid but now I simply cannot afford to.
I'm not one of those "back in my day" kind of people, but this train is just classy, even in 2022. Those seats look so much better than anything currently on the rails. The best we get in my area these days are 159s. They're pretty good, but these look even better.
Yes for a DMU the 159s, made of course by BREL, are awesome with their refined sounding Diesel engines under every carriage, so much more refined than the `Thames Turbo' Class 165s. The Class 165s can sound better if the Voith torque converter is given time to engage (presumably in notch 1) before further notching up is carried out but few drivers have the engineering feel to do this, resulting in them sounding like a railbus (the engine noisily revving up before being tied down by the torque converter and the train accelerating away).
The WRL Wairarapa Line ...100 km from Wellington , through the 8.3 km Rimutaka tunnel and on the Masterton does the 95 min (!) trip using refurbished ( and regauged, of course) Mk 2 carriages. The new ( past 2 years) upholstery goes really well with the comfortable seating,, plenty of Tables!! and power points for every seat,, awkwardly down almost at floor level on the walls.
But still! no coffee machine :-0
@@neville132bbk How on Earth can you NOT have a coffee machine on a train that operates out of Wellington?! I mean I swear I've been in a lift in that city that had a mobile barista in the corner!
Geoff reacting to that door is like me reacting to a car where you adjust the window manually. 😂
Good to see a group of young people enjoying the train
I remember travelling on the Intercity service back in the 90s when I was about 5 or 6 years old from Norwich to London Liverpool Street when they used to have MK2 coaches and they had Intercity seat Reservation paper ticket back then. I would like to try out the Intercity Charter train maybe in the New year. 👍
I remember the class 87 being built at Crewe works. I am now 70 years young and still love railways
Yes in the seventies a visit to Crewe works open day was still enjoyable, after the 87s I remember HST power units being built.
Sad that most of the site is now retail parks and housing, that's progress.
It ran yesterday. I saw it at Chelford.
Having had a little bit to do with the preservation/main line return of 87002 in 2008, this made me smile big time! :) Good to see it once again doing what it was designed to do.
Must make you feel so chuffed!
😁
We miss our GA MK3's nice to see them still running!!
Those seats look so comfortable. I hope this service is still running when I make it back to England. Great video!
Bad news, apparently it ceased only about a month after this video was made.
Wow #15 TRENDING that’s amazing keep it up Geoff 👍
Paul and Geoff are easily my favourite transit TH-camrs ever, this crossover was almost meant for me
Agreed. I watch both of them too.
Excellent video 👍
The class 87s are one of the best design of electric locomotive there has ever been, and after they were withdrawn by Virgin Trains in 2004/2005, most of them were exported to Bulgaria, where they continue to work freight services
@Chiltern Transport Productions And the drivers really like them.
A Hungarian trainspotter from Wolverhampton.
Is it just me or was the imagequality better before Geoff's cameraman got the beer?
As someone who plays a lot of Train Simulator, one of my most favourite liveries is the Intercity Swallow livery, along with Network Southeast, that is so cool!
Despite being born in 2005, it's nostalgic even seeing slam door train in passenger service in 2022 as the only other one left is the night riviera
Night riviera is all power doors now - slammy ones aren't permitted on TOC-run services bc of accessibility regulations (which are definitely a good thing).
@@aspen.as6 nope, the riviera still has slam doors
@@GenericLifts oh. Not entirely sure if that's supposed to be a thing, but thats interesting to hear.
@@aspen.as6 yeh the droplight windows have additional pins in them, and I believe they are depressed at the same time the central door locks get released so the windows can not be fully lowered until stationary
Genuinely considering travelling down to London just to catch this. Takes me back to my childhood on these from London to Wolverhampton (ironically on a Friday night). Got to be done again!
@@geofftech2 firstly OMG the legend has replied!
Secondly I think I might have to convince my partner to take a Friday in London (we live in Notts so if I don’t tell her it’s solely to catch a train to Wolves I might get away with it)
I used these carriages growing up in east anglia. The stress and responsibility of opening a slammy door at the station as a teenager was something I never thought I’d miss.
(It was the sliding of the window and leaning out to use the handle that scared me the most)
I used to travel on the standard class slamdoor InterCity trains going to and from boarding school in the early 90s. They were hauled by class 86s though. The buffet car often wasn't nice like that one; it was a rattly Mk 1 car.
1:47 BRB SCREAMING RN! I mean, I AM LIVING for this collab 🔥
I remember the 86s, 87s and the 90s on the WCML. I didn't skip school but I have done my work experience on Network Southeast liveried class 321s.
I remember these locomotives and rolling stock first time around it's incredible to see them back in action again on the WCML. The MK3 coaches are possibly the best coaches ever built and knock the socks off of all other modern stock for ride and comfort. Hard to believe they are over 40 years old. Let's gone this is a success.
The best Intercity livery there ever was, and should be brought back when it becomes Great British Railways!
So much this. It’s probably the best thing BR ever did.
@@mcgherkinstudios Imagine the Pendolinos in this livery.. wonderful
If Great British Railways every becomes a thing this should be the livery.
Had 90002 Intercity pass me at Rugby earlier today, such a nice thing to see back on the mainline
Thanks, Geoff - you met my son Maxim on his way to setting up a show in Manchester's Theatre Land. He travels all over the UK doing this (and doing what he calls 'Load Outs' at the end of a 'run'.) Nice one! Keep 'em coming! Michael.
Guy with the glasses makes a brilliant point, I’ve never experienced a train like this, having only been used to the “cattle-nomics” of new stock. I must do this journey at some point.
Oh brilliant! 9:48 - very well said! Nostalgic yes but also a very good train. Many thanks for posting.
Slidey windows? Slammy doors? Former GA coaches?! Heritage locomotives?! ALL INTERCITY BRANDING?!? Ahhh this is magic!! The fact they are former GA coaches is special to me, given my main experience of loco-hauled Mk3 Intercity trains was Class 90s on the GEML between London and Norwich! I saw some pictures of this service, but how remiss of me, I honestly thought it was merely a one-off railtour! I'm definitely doing a trip of this ^_^
Incidentally, if LSL or anyone else wants to do something similar with an original HST set, down the GWML or up the ECML, I'll be there in a heartbeat... xD
And of course the Ex GA Mk3s, were inherited from Virgin Trains (West Coast) who inherited them from Intercity
I'm on the GEML as well and Covid meant I never got a proper "last trip" in the Mk3's. Will have to book myself on this one!
That's really cool that they're essentially running a service, but dedicated to enthusiasts and those fond of the type and /or livery essentially. It looks absolutely superb
A proper train.
Great Video. My dad worked for the railways and once a year we would go on holiday to ither Cardiff, Bristol and sometimes Redding, that was the days of steam, and the carriages were corridor carriages, I would wander the full length of the train, The doors were slamy doors and the windows had leather straps to lower and lift them. The smell of the steam engines was something else, if I encounter that smell now it takes me straight back to my childhood. Ahhh wonderful memories!!
I love that I’ve finally seen Geoff Marshall, my favourite train TH-camr, and Paul Lucas, one of my favourite flight reviewers, onscreen together!
Lovely to see two of my favourite TH-camrs on the same video. Looks like a great service.
This is the train of my youth.
I grew up in Hatch End and could very definitely hear the WCML from my back garden.
10 and 11yo me would have trainspotted 87002 from the trackside on many an Easter or half term holiday.
Student me would have most likely been taken by Royal Sovereign from Watford Junction to Liverpool Lime Street
The toilet is definitely the same but I suspect the water pump has been upgraded from dribble
Thank you for the memories Geoff and Paul
bathroom is the same as in the GA MKIII's on the Liverpool st line (miss those damn trains used to take em all the time!)
Of course by these trains I'm referring to the class 90 hauling MKIIIs
I love those carriages, having been a regular Greater Anglia user for many years now... The new GA trains are nice, but quite hard in ride and firm in seats!
Ayyyyy!! I met you that day :)
Geoff and Paul. Brilliant!
I love Paul! What a crossover!!
Love it you bumped in to Paul!
Yes a great nostalgic train 😆 it’s fantastic seeing the young ones loving the 87s and fabulous coaches 🤣 Piccadilly is one of my local stations back in my train spotting days in the 70s so I can remember the transformation from old to new on the west coast main line 🤩 Great video as always Geoff 👍🏻
Oh wow!!
I am SO using this next time I have to go to or from London on a Friday.
It's about the same cost as my current Standard Class single fare, but with First Class seating and....holds breath....Slidey down windows, a handle and Slammy Doors!!
It's just all TOO much.
Fantastic.
I shall DEFINITELY be supporting this excellent charter train endeavour.
Mk3 where built for West Coast main line before , Class 221/ 390 arrived and hauled by
By 86 and 87 .
I remember the class 87 from brand new, I recall it was on bbc news to announce it's arrival and was used as the Royal Scot service , travelled behind many of them and class 86 in the 70s
Thank-you so much for this video Geoff. This really was the train of my childhood. I was born less than 300 yards from the line in Stafford and grew up in a house with a direct view of the line at Rodbaston , south of Penkridge. Watched the trains go by as I did the washing up from the age of six, most drawn by 8Fs in those days I think. I saw the first electric loco - and its internals through plexiglass - at Stafford station, must’ve been in ‘63 or ‘64.
My first journey on my own by train from Stafford to London was to go to the ‘69 motor show Earls Court. Not the kind of journey you forget.
As someone who spent each and every school holiday travelling between Liverpool and Edinburgh to see extended family, this video brought back some amazing memories.
I’m 3rd generation RailwayMan and I also grew up on travelling on the EBW (EUS-BHM-WVH) services and when I eventually joined British Rail 👍🏻 I did a stint as a Signaller on the Trent at Lichfield Trent Valley (WCML) where every day its was Intercity mk2, mk3, cl86, cl87 & cl90. Thundering pass my Box
I remember the good old of turning up a station. Paying for a ticket. And then the next Inter-City being only a short wait away.
I saw this train at South Kenton on a Friday about 2 weeks ago, great experience!
very cool to see you and Paul together! Big fan of both of your channels
No way! Didn't not expect Paul in there, what a hero
Ive travelled Glasgow-London so many times over the last 40 years..... the sound of a slammy-door is sorely missed, as that was the sound of high days and holidays
Technically Mark *3A* coaches, as they are loco-hauled and have buffers.
And just in case the fun police decide that slam-doors are right out even for charters, it is at least proven that power doors on a Mark 3 are doable.
Don't worry those slam doors have central locking released by the train crew.
The coach interior at 2:01 (and in some later shots) is a Mark 3B, built 1985/6 for Pullman services with InterCity 80 seats.
@@KOE530E Oooh, rare and fancy!
Fantastic trip report Geoff! So want to take this train service while it’s still in operation. I grew up on MK3 coaches on western region, but occasionally took a train north from Euston to Manchester and beyond. Loved the 86’s and 87’s, such a different experience to the diesel 47’s and 50’s I was used to. Seeing the intercity livery and gorgeous seats hit the nostalgic button, but the door slam and slidey windows brought a smile to my face, as did your reaction to them!
Nice to meet you Geoff that day, always a pleasure and glad to see you had fun, it was an immense journey that took me back in time! :)
This video made me think back to a 70-ies night journey in a Mk1 compartment, all the way from Scotland to London. And I don't know if there's a connection with the slam doors/sliding windows, but if you take 6x60=360 and then subtract the 6x2=12 you end up with 348 without using a calculator.
Aaahh, there's nurse with my hot cocoa !
yes yes i did many times london liverpool street class 31 mk1 carriages to cambridge.....most times was class 37s..there was also lots class 31s,,,the journey was like going to glasgow...lol.....i did cambridge from kings cross took 4hours once,,,,when the track was only eletric to royston...then you change to a dmu....the eletric slam door failed,,,,the dmu also failed,,,,.was some epic 54mile journey.....was a murphy laws journey....what can go wrong ....will go wrong.......was a sunday journey the all track repairs get on rail buses helped ..we should of just walked to cambridge😀😀😀
Never been on a train with that door style and I'm telling you right now if I ever see one I'm getting straight on and leaning out the window while its moving as they look so good.
Glad to meet Mark Thanks !!
That was absolutely magic, brought so many memories back from my late teens and 20s! (Although I have to confess I always struggled with the slammy doors!)
Travelled this train a few weeks back off Euston thro to Manchester and it was a complete joy! It was a great feeling.
Paul Lucas collab was so unexpected but so good, you should fly somewhere with him!!
Intercity from Liverpool Street to Norwich were some of my favourite travelling days. I'm 33 so I was using the trains to see my old man in suffolk. These were the days.
Hey Geoff!! Great video. Keep up the good work!
Brings back memories. Don’t live anywhere near the WCML but have ridden it countless times over the years. Good to see a proper train, so little loco haulage available now. Excellent video Geoff.
Nice peakperiod special service, hopefully to be extended... Thanks for the video
These chairs looks so comfortable, how on earth did we end up with the rock hard ironing board seats on Thameslink!
If i was feeling cynical I would say it is because they don't want you on the train. If you're only on there for a few stops they can get more people on board over the journey.
Used to catch 87's from Preston to Carlisle every day after School, So many great memories! Most weekends would go to Euston, Some weekends my moves started with 00:18 Preston to Glasgow Queen St, Then across to Central for first train to Euston.
The guy at 8:57 spoke the truth because I can’t even fit into the seats on southeastern trains I have to sit at an angle for my legs
Skipping work to watch this video seems appropriate!?
Thanks Geoff, great nostalgia. It was good to see the young guys "flailing" and "appreciating the thrash" just what i sued to do 30 years ago! Bring back the class 37s and 20s!
Geoff you'll be happy to hear my daily commute bus passes the elbow window test with flying colours!
I think I have been on an Inter-City - I do remember the 'Slam-door' & the 'Slidy' windows thou!!! 😉🚂🚂🚂
This has to be done. A load of my school friends and myself used to travel everywhere back in the 80s. We had baker days at our school, I never let on to my parents that we all had these days off. We met at our local station, and off we went. This brings all those memories back.
I would love to see more collabirations with you two, my favourite youtube travel channels. Maybe do a video on a plane trip with Paul?
I'm definately gonna book a ticket on this route, will bring back so many teenage memories.
Good to see you back on form Geoff. I love your enthusiasm for the tiniest details, it does become infectious.
Thanks
Great too see at work like you Geoff, loving the return of the slam doors and pull down windows! Harrow Boy like Paul and unlike him, didn’t hide and loved the 86 and 8s thundering through Wealdstone on my journey home from school on the local trains to Hatch End.
hi, great video, long live the 87s at last someone has seen sense, get rid of those star trek type trains,with ironing board seats !
I used to get those Greater Anglia trains between Liverpool St and Norwich to get to uni, wish they were this nice then!
These sets are incredibly nostalgic - They have two GreaterAnglia Class 90s, and a class 86 too. It's a lovely idea, and I hope they expand it!
@Chiltern Transport Productions It did!
This was a real fun Geoff video, thank you so much! Super addition of Paul and other guests! :)
Slam doors are now a heritage thing??? But what a great nostalgia trip, comfortable seats with a buffet and no overcrowding. Great to see Paul in the video too.
That's fantastic, I haven't ridden in an intercity Mk2 since New Zealand closed it borders and I could no longer catch the train from Wellington to Palmerston North.
This has to be my favourite train livery. It just takes me back to my childhood and my first memories of trains in the late 80’s early 90’s when me and my Mum used to travel from Liverpool Lime Street to Taunton a couple of times a year to visit family in Somerset.
What a great nostalgic trip. I caught the evening "Pullman" a couple of times from Euston on a Friday night back in the mid-80s - the livery, the 87 and the Mark III brought all those memories back, though I'm thinking they were possibly 86s hauling back then ...
Two of my favourite TH-camrs in one video! I knew even before you introduced that it was Paul. I have no idea why, but I'm so glad! Simply brilliant and that livery is perfect!
Hi Geoff, Great video, good to meet you on board..… and my little one, she did that Rubix cube in 1 min 38s..
Those seats look more comfortable than the ones on the Caledonian Sleeper!
I love the British Rail in the 80s and early 90s.
I live on the GEML with trains going directly past my house. I miss these old carriages as even though the new trains are an absolute dream to ride on they make a very loud noise externally compared to the class 90s with mk3’s. Please greater Anglia can we have them back😂
The new 745 are terrible to ride on compared to these. The seats in both standard and 1st class are far too upright to be comfortable for any length of time and the fact they don't use the internal partition doors means they're noisy and draughty throughout.
What a joy! I second the comments about seat comfort, it's maddening that we have such poor comfort in comparison.
Also, great to see such enthusiastic youngsters, are trains cool at last?
I just LOVE seeing all the young folks so interested in railways!
If a charter HST were brought back out of Paddington complete with proper first class and a buffet bar it would absolutely fly. They are so missed.
Same with 91s up to Edinburgh.
@@Reddsoldier Absolutely. Im only speaking from personal experience from living in the West Country but the old style inter city would be popular everywhere
Great video, and great to see an awesmoe set running in revenue eraning service. The mk3's are so so so much better than anything currently "new" imho. Am mow actively looking to make this trip. Thanks for posting this Geoff.
Thank you for sharing the video Geoff that was very interesting. I have been to Euston station a few times very big station too
I don’t think there’s ever been a better coach than the mark 3 I remember as a boy being on the Royal Scot being hauled by Patriot 87003 the memories.