Giftedness vs ADHD Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ค. 2023
- Sometimes, the difference is hard to spot.
#gifted #adhd #giftedness
You enter a forest. Who's forest? Why are you here? As you walk through the narrow paths and try not to stumble over the vines, you realize there's something eerily familiar about this place. You've been here before. Many times. And then it hits you. The realization. You're inside your own mindscape. This is how it looks inside your own head.
But you've never seen it like this before. Never been a simple wanderer passing through, trying to find the way. In the past, you were always the individual thoughts, the trees, always a different one, never more than a few at a time. You recognize many of these trees.
Some trees are your worries and concerns and fears. Some are frustrations and things that upset you. Some are shame, and regret. Things you wish had gone differently. Here's both the past and the future, at least, what you think could, or might happen. But looking at this forest, you are hit by a wave of perspective. You are all of these things, not any individual thought, but all thoughts, at the same time. You're both joys and sorrows, dreams and fears. All those inner conflicts were just you all along, thinking, with yourself.
My name is Erik Thor, and I'm a Jungian analyst specializing in personality psychology and positive psychology. I created this channel to do storytelling about personality psychology and personal growth.
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In eighth grade I was failing math and not paying any attention to the teacher, who thought I was dumb. Then I scored highest in my grade on a standardized math test, and the teacher was shocked, asking me why, if I understood math, I was failing the class? I just said that analyzing the test to figure out the answers was fun, but that math was not. This he did not understand.
I totally get what you mean
Very relatable. Nice to hear gifted peoples stories. Crazy how our peers treated us dumb, and in some cases, we'd believe it after a while. But we get to a point where we reawaken(if you will) as adults, and can run circles around those same peers...of course, we strive to be humble ;)
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Anxiety can be a huge distractor in classroom, so lack of attention can have many reasons of human nature. Cognitive symptoms are part of the way we all function.
I wonder how much of the 'pandemic' of ADHD is due to actual catching up of what previously has been overlooked, and how much of the complaints are a direct consequence of deteriorating order, discipline and virtuous grit needed to learn and think. And the distracting use of smartphones and massive flood of so called social media and behaviours reinforced by instant gratification...
Very little, probably... Although an increase in things that cause distractions probably doesn't help. There are things about social media that probably aren't good for many of us, sure...
Summary of my perspective/background on the topic:
late-diagnosed with ADHD in my early 50s, told also that I was 'gifted' (whatever that really means), a lot of obsessive attempts to learn about the topic since maybe halfway through 2021, and a lifetime of striving for habits that hopefully cultivate self-awareness and self-discipline. Well, I did my best anyways... :)
Although there are cases of misdiagnosis, a lot of the rise in ADHD diagnoses mainly comes from increased awareness.
For one thing, what used to be called ADD got lumped into and made a part of ADHD. So right there, the assessments are diagnosing all who used to get ADD... with an ADHD diagnosis.
But mainly increased awareness, it seems, is the main factor... a better understanding of the condition as a result of ongoing research with what is probably one of the most-researched mental diagnoses of its kind. That it isn't just that little kid that couldn't sit still and shut up-that it's much more than that...That adults, smart people and gifted people can have it too... That women and girls in the past have been greatly missed and under-diagnosed...
Those of us with ADHD are at greater risk for things such as anxiety and depression. And when assessing individuals, it's necessary to rule out anything that could mimic or be mistaken for ADHD symptoms.
Yes, there are lots of things that can cause someone to be distracted or hyper or whatever. You're right... Someone being 'hyper' or distracted doesn't mean they have ADHD.
ADHD is a mostly-hereditary, neurodivergent condition. It has nothing to do with 'will' or discipline.
Some good sources for information could include Russel Barkley (even though he has a slightly-'clinical' perspective), Thomas Brown, and if you are into something lighter that tries to be amusing, Jessica McCabe has a quirky TH-cam Channel called 'HowtoADHD'. There's also Attitude Magazine and its 'Experts Podcast'...
There is some good information out there. There's a lot of misinformation, too.
People with ADHD are pure genius and have immeasurable IQs and to see third level and are instant problem solvers
great video thankss
Throughout the whole video that's what I thought - individualized approach in schools! 👍
Why getting bored? Most, if not everything, is potentially interesting, once you dig into it or if you cultivate an inquisitive, learning attitude. The fallacy today is the implicit notion that everything should be fun, spectacular and give an instant sense of reward. Inspiration can come from the outside, but motivation has to reside within the individual. You can call this a lack of volition, motivation or problems of initiating, procrastination or whatever. The winning attitude is to focus and adopt the attributes that promotes learning.
The more used to mentally demanding tasks, such as math or learning a foreign language or incorporating lots of facts and questioning the stuff cannot be performed in a disturbing environment with lots of distractions, noice and interruptions. Outdoor acitivites, physical exercise, nutrition and hydration facilitates good mental performance.
I think boredom can be split into more nuanced categories. Yes you can have boredom because you "don't know what to do" but I don't think gifted people tend to have this as often because as you mentioned, there are infinite things to do, learn and explore, even when you are sitting quietly with your own mind. However boredom can arise if you are stuck in a situation that you are unable to get out of, and have to use some brain power to complete the task (say at a job you don't enjoy but need to do temporarily for the money, or at school) but also there are many things you know you could be doing instead. Yes of course you can try and make these things interesting but there are limits if the task is inherently very simple.
You are right that one can have both ADHD and be gifted and that there is a kind of overlap between the two things in certain ways.
ADHD can occur with any level of intelligence and with 'giftedness' or not. Many of the things discussed:
- Being bored
- Needing to be interested or engaged
- Being told 'If only they applied themselves'...
That's also 'typical' ADHD stuff, of course.
You probably already know this, but ADHD is a horrible name for the condition (given current understanding, which has outpaced what some of the general public seems to think they know about it). Rather than a lack of attention, or laziness or a matter of 'will'... it's often an abundance of attention that's 'all over the place': an inability to regulate attention to the same degree like others can.
This links back to the real 'central theme' of ADHD underneath the surface... A neurodivergent developmental condition with differences/issues with executive functioning. Like autism, it's on a spectrum of it's own as well and can manifest differently from one person to another and it also has a lot of overlap in symptoms with ASD.
But yeah, according to different respected experts such as Russel Barkley and Thomas E. Brown, it can coexist with any level of intelligence or gifttedness.
But people perceive my eccentricity as bring dumb rather than smart.
I am gifted and was mistaken as such.
Are u the same guy from mbti channel too?
He's my twin bro! 😊
@@ForestForThought OH MY GOD! u guys should make colaboration videos 😍
Interested to see this mbti channel, what's its name?
Maybe both.
hashtag entp life.
I was bored because of intelligence.
Intelligent persons are often curious and inquisitive, and not prone to boredom.
@@jarinorvanto4301education in grade school tends to be objective outcome focused rather than inquisitive. It’s boring as can be in my experience. I love learning but was extremely bored in school. I
And further more your not wise enough to try and explain what you yourself do not know.