For clarification on the permit. The $45k includes the water and sewage upgrades, this is mandatory upgrade if your home is over the age of 29 years on bigger renovations. I included that in the total cost of the permit as this was the total fee that was needed to be paid prior to receiving the permit. These are the permitting rules for the city where the house is located.
You mean that this includes the city working to hook up your up to date pipes to the city portion? I hope it includes having inspections done as well!!
God bless. All of those permits down here in Texas (in my city at least), would cost under 5k since, as far as I know, you are not adding to the original square feet of your structure. I need to emigrate to your neck of the woods and certify for building inspector that'away is what this video is telling me. Also, usung a wheelbarrow is what I have been screaming for the past 20 or so episodes. Enjoy your new project and I hope these costs do not sink any of your plans going forward.
So, I've finally done it. The whole structural engineering office, where I work as a design engineer, watches the latest episode on Thursdays during our lunch break, even the bosses watch it in the break room. There's always something new to discover about North American timber construction.
3 things I have really started to appreciate about this series, 1. How well you two work together 2. You’re not afraid of hard work and 3. The great filming and camera angles. These all together make for a very enjoyable watch. keep up the good work!
Right? Even when they're clearly frustrated and tired and annoyed with each other they never raise their voices at each other or even really give each other dirty looks. I aspire for this kind of relationship, no name calling, good teamwork, no yelling. Good soup 🤌
@@Grapefruitplatypus does anyone else feel guilty after watching these like “I am not exercising enough?” You are so right, great teamwork. I came for the flower crochet dress but that home! 👍🏻
Thanks for the info. I had a 20’ x 12, extension put on my house not so long ago ( 6 years ) and all in it was £40k. UK sterling. Thats planning permission architect drawings all materials and construction. It has a shower and toilet room. A huge living space with stairs leading to an upstairs mezaneen bed room. Allowing for inflation maybe it would cost £50k to build now.
Jenna, your relationship is so wholesome. You cheering on nick, him giving fun facts and the cute banter, the positive engagement, its the best. This is what i strive for in my relationship
Remember that this is a video made for public consumption with the intent of garnering the most views and retention through the entire video, in real life I'm sure the frustrations bring many moments that don't make it into the video.
@@indianaslim4971 Yeah no reason why they would show such things given this is mostly about the reno/houve. However the day-to-day treatment of each other does show they seem to put effort in their treatment of each other and communication which is pretty nice :)
It's amazing how mesmerizing it is to watch 2 complete strangers on TH-cam destroy/remodel a neat older home. Jenna took a huge chance on completely changing her channel from Crafts to home remodeling. I've been watching another guy overseas rebuild an old Chateau house that was completely burnt out in the 80s. Everytime a new video shows in my feed I get giddy like a young school boy waiting to play their favorite game with a smile on my face. I'm getting more inspired everyday to actually upload videos I make and edit but never post.
I grew up in this area, in a house like this. My parents had it built in 1957. About a decade later, we had a (rare) huge snowfall (your area gets a lot less snow than where I lived). Late evening, the phone rang. It was the architect, just casually calling let my Dad know that it might be a good idea to shovel off the roof ... like, now ... not to wait for morning ...
I know exactly what that's like. A few years back I had a flat-roofed commercial building in Oregon, and we had a few days of heavy snow. Around 8 PM a roof in town collapsed, and three guys I know called me to let me know. I figured maybe I should go shovel. So around 10 PM when I should have been in bed I was four stories up on the roof shoveling, for about 4 hours. It wasn't lonely though - there were crews up on the roofs of about a dozen other buildings I could see from mine, also shoveling.
It took him awhile but by 3.0 Sammy finally understood the assignment, and threw in a self automation upgrade! 😄 I've seen many YT videos where homes like this just get torn down and replaced by McMansions, so it makes my heart happy knowing you want to bring this retro house back again, only better! If you hear a faint sounding 'go, go go!' that's just me cheering you & Nick on from Ontario. Best of luck to you both! 😊
Yeah, and the decisions they are making are super smart. That's a million-dollar view, that house, especially how nice the vernacular architecture is, and how much of the original design they are keeping, will hold and grow every penny they put in, and as likely as not with the sweat-equity and TH-cam income they are putting in, they will make their future financially sound with this couple of years of crazy expense, work, sacrifice and financial risk they are paying now. In 20 years, they will have a multimillion dollar asset, paid free and clear, their only expense will be their kid's tuition and their local tax payment. Good for them, they deserve it after the trial by fire they are making
Jenna I’ve followed you since your Thrifting Era, then loved your Crocheting Era and now you are only 5,000 SUBS UNTIL YOU HIT 1 MILLION during your awesome MCM Reno Era! Woo hoo! 🎉 Go Jenna GO JENNA!
Architect here 👋 "Green roofs" (as we call them in my country) are actually pretty clever if done correctly. The garden on the roof will protect the building from overheating, keep some water on your plot (drought prevention) and look attractive. Also nothing wrong with flat roofs in general (if done correctly ofc), not mentioning that modernist architecture kinda requires it.
Flat roofs are just a ticking time bomb, even when everything is done correctly they can be maintenance nightmares as they are inherently bad at getting water off the roof. Low slope roofs and clever architecture are 100% the way to go over a flat roof and honestly a higher pitched roof is all the better. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
Another architect hear to clarify - when we say “flat roof”, we mean low slope. No one in their right mind today would construct a completely flat roof. At my firm we do low slope and green roofs all the time and they work great.
As a structural engineer my absolutely-not-professional-analysis is... "it tried". The purpose of it would have been to account for any potential snow load on the cantilevered section as well as distribute the "dead load" of the roof (the weight of the roof itself). Even if you don't get much snow by the ocean, codes would have been designed for the "worst case" storm - or at least they are now. It's potentially also functioning as a "hold down" for any wind coming off of said ocean. It looks like that overhang could have caught a lot of wind and could have lifted part of the roof if it wasn't secured correctly. The placement is actually fine, and you wouldn't want it too far towards the edge - this is an incomplete analogy, but it would be like holding up an umbrella vs a hammock. But how it's notched/connected/rusted? "It tried".
Working your tails off and still having energy to clean up speaks of your work ethics. You may have spent $45-grand on a permit but saved $100-grand in hiring roofers. 👍👍👍
I just realized... sure, you're demoing a good chunk of the house, but the renovations are coming too. this video series could last a solid year. i am SOOOOO excited to see what you guys do with this place! Congrats on the permit. i know that sounds pricey, but trust me... the added cost of upgrading sewer and water will be HUGE down the road. We're redoing just our master bath and the hall bathroom here in "chez frissonic," and we've already had to redo a good chunk of the main drain lines because they were 1.5", and code is now 2". That's toilet, shower, sink... all of it. New p-traps, too. You're going to love this house when you're done with it because it's going to be ALL you.
Hi guys, I’m a first time poster , found your channel today, and have binge watched the whole series up to date.. yes , I am free all day and every day, medically retired from work due to copd . Anyway, I have watched so many renovations on YT , your place is amazing and I can’t wait to watch the rest unfold. As a couple of young guys you have great attitudes and your content is interesting and very amusing, you are natural presenters , kudos to you both and keep up the great work and content. Many thanks for your time , kevin from Herefordshire in the UK 🇬🇧 😬👍
Idk if it's the same in Canada but here if you work without a permit the state can force you to demo any work you've done to your property so permits are a necessary evil in this case
@@caesar98In the US it’s a local City or Town issue not a state over-site unless Environmental Protection Agency gets involved. Check each state constitution.
Structural Engineers are expensive. This project isn’t small and the house isn’t in the best shape so annoyingly enough the price kind of makes sense. But yeah seeing the prices and the scope of the work would be super interesting
@@LEX.IBA333 I'm not sure the permit cost should be attached to the cost of construction including engineers. The permit is just to allow construction within the town and is usually capped depending on the scope of the project (at least in New Jersey it is). I've done million dollar restoration projects where the permit costs were about that much but I can't imagine the need for that high permit cost from the town unless they are performing special inspections as well as the sanitary system upgrade requirement being done by the town
@GhostdogLT21 I agree, I do high-end remodels for some clients (among other things) in Los Angeles. But idk, this home seems to be pretty damaged. It is also Canada, so I don't even know what a "permit" requires in a different country. I would assume because of the state of the home that it would cost a pretty penny regardless
Jenna has influenced me and i bought bombas socks when i saw them in store. Definitely very comfortable and i appreciate the lack of a toe seam as an autistic person
A good helper is worth his weight in gold. We are retired and we have a good helper who comes and mows our lawn and helps with curting and stacking wood etc. It makes life so much easier.
Being fined for something they just tell you about is BS. Also the permit amount is insane. Unless you're getting way more than just an "OK" to do the work, that's unacceptable.
@@richest_image Sewage connection, street and often electricity are in fact paid by developpers. The city pays for the upkeep, not the construction and I think in her case it's not just "upkeep" it's construction.
@@richest_imageplenty of places will require the homeowner or builder to build or maintain the sidewalks. The sewer and water connection is for exclusive use of this home so why would the city pay for it? It’s part of living in a community, doing the upgrades ensure the safety and cleanliness of not only the people living in the house but also neighbors.
I've done two house renovations. not one down this far. The good spirits the two of you show during something that is generally really stressful is awesome. i hope it goes well for you!
This house is going to be fabulous... I'm here for all this...listen I subscribed for the crafting but I'm definitely staying for the renovation... I gotta see your final vision for this...great work you guys...I think you make a great team.
Love waking up Thursday mornings in Australia and seeing that you've posted your new video. Despite it being hard work you appear to take it in your stride and I love you and Nick's humour and the music that accompanies each post. Keep up the great work. Everyone's rooting for you ❤️
Except, like every time you look a little deeper you find that either Jenna did zero research into the requirements (which are literally spelled out on the Cities website under Building> Permits) OR and I am thinking this is more likely is playing damsel in distress for an audience who doesn't know better. I think honestly I'm going to walk away from this series because my ability to suspend belief that she is this obtuse to the ways this was ALWAYS going to go, especially given how she claims to be working with engineers
So glad that you are saving a bunch of the wood! It is beautiful! It is so sturdy,for the most part,and since it is old growth whatever,it is better than modern wood.Hope it gets re-used in the remake in such a way as to exemplify the beauty of it!
3 things leaving me with anxious anticipation, 1: How far will the deconstruction go? 2: What will be the aftermath of a heavy rain without any roof at all? 3: How many windows will get broken? I had to modify that last question since you finally answered when the first window would get broken! 😄 We love watching this project!
Go Sammy! Go Nick! Go Jenna! The view of the Straight of Georgia is spectacular! Please plan for a roof top deck! Happy belated CANADA DAY! Love you! From a land locked Albertan who wishes they were in B.C! Congrats on your permit!🤗
I’ve recently discovered your channel and have just binge watched this project from the start. I am in awe of your determination, teamwork and positive attitudes! My husband and I are 3.5 years into a new home build that we’ve now had to take over from the builders we originally contracted. It’s a lot less physical work than deconstruction and Reno’s (which we’ve done previously) and watching this helps me keep our challenges in perspective. I look forward to seeing how you restore this beauty!
I could understand them charging 45k for a water main and sewage upgrade if you were building a multi dwelling building on a lot that was previously used by a single dwelling building. But that’s not the case here. This is just another case of out of touch cities ran by out of touch boomers that treat new homeowners as their personal piggy banks. What I like about this series is seeing a young couple that takes an old decrepit neglected house and use their energy and hard work to build the house of their dreams. As a gen X, I always felt that we had it much harder than the boomers but nowadays I see that it was nothing compared to what the millennials and younger generations are living now. Homeownership in Canada has always been a powerful tool for the working class to reach financial stability. Unfortunately, this dream is no longer possible for most of the working class. Nowadays we see a lot of hard working young people with good jobs that are struggling to pay their rent. Canada is a big country, there’s a lot of space to build all the houses the population needs. The housing crisis is a totally made up situation caused by a corrupted political system. Sorry for the rant, hope you succeed in your endeavour.
Most average working people are not going to be building a new home or “renovating” a home to this extent. They aren’t average or normal and are in an already expensive area. This is well beyond a basic renovation or addition a regular person would do. Apart from the basic structure it will be an entirely new home. Since it’s going to be a new home I don’t think it’s unreasonable to require new water and sewer since the ones there are 50+ years old. Unfortunately the costs to replace services in existing neighborhoods is not cheap, something that doesn’t change based on dwelling size. I wouldn’t be surprised if they end up having to tear up part of the street to do it with how tight things are on their property. The reality is new construction costs money. I know from experience here in the states that 20k USD for water and sewer is not unreasonable.
@@Alexlfm Well, maybe I’m a fool but I naively thought that a portion of property taxes that people pay each year were supposed to be used for infrastructure maintenance. This house already had water and sewage that was paid off by the original owners. And maintenance should have been paid for with a portion of the property taxes paid over the years. So unless they are adding a bunch of bathrooms or any other elements that require an upgrade on the water main or sewage, I still don’t think that the city should charge them for upgrades. If the city doesn’t do their maintenance correctly over the years and are using people who are doing renovations as their personal piggy bank, it’s not ok.
@@Pintosonic Not sure about where you live, but here in Ohio, property taxes have little to do with infrastructure. Water and sewer upgrades are paid via what the city charges for the services. What they charge for water and sewer pay the wages of the water department employees, equipment, and maintenance. Upgrades are usually funded by fees and grants. When they have to upgrade the wastewater plant, they try to get grants and zero interest loans. They usually only upgrade water or sewer just before big paving projects as it is a waste of money to pave a road and then have to tear it up to repair a broken line in 6 months. They charge 'tap in fees' for connecting new service to a property, or upgrading a service for bigger use to an existing property. The fee depends on how much work is involved, if they have to open up the road and repave it, etc.
@@Pintosonic No matter where you live you are responsible for the section of utilities from the home to the main be it water sewer or electrical. No utility covers that same as most roads in HOA subdivisions here in the states are the responsibility of the homeowner. When they need to be replaced the homeowners pay the cost. Lower utility costs come at a price; if it was all inclusive it would cost an absolute fortune and you would be paying for new builds and your neighbors repair. The only thing unique to Canada is the fact that the utility themselves does the work however knowing what it costs here in the states the price is the same as a private contractor. The fact is this will be classified as a new home. The minute you take all the rafters and internal walls out it’s not the same structure anymore. That means it’s service life is reset and so the city requires new services that are built to modern standards (their electrical service I can already tell isn’t nearly enough for a new home and they’re going to have to pay for that to be upgraded too). This house likely has vulnerable clay (which would be towards the end of its service life) or at best concrete sewers and could very well have leaded water mains. There’s plenty of stupid zoning requirements, permit requirements for basic things and slow moving building departments to complain about but requiring new services up to code on a new house in a multimillion neighborhood isn’t one of them. If you don’t take your roof and rafters off or tear out every one of your internal walls you don’t face these requirements.
I just want to thank you so much for sharing your house renovation with us. Sammy cracked me up today with the mind of her own.😂👏🏼 The both of you are doing an awesome job.
I had to remove my deck recently and did the same underside-hitting of the floorboards, so I know how much of a workout that is. And has anyone else noticed that all the roof removal and demo work, Jenna's Deltoids and SUPER defined right now. !! Maybe not a gun show, but definitely some type of weapon!!
Congratulations on your permit! The view you have is so stunning. Don’t forget to take a moment here and there to soak it in. You guys are such an amazing team. Thanks for taking us all on your journey 😊
lol, great save Jenna! Congratulations on the permit! I hope when you finish this place, you buy another one and fix it so we can watch. You guys are so upbeat and bring me joy. Thank you!
They are left to fall down because the value now lies in the building lot, not the structure. Their’s was listed for $2.5 mil, a neighbouring property was listed at $2.8 mil. in an area where the average new home price is in the 4-12 million range. People with the money to live here want a new modern build, unless it’s a MCM of a famous architect. lol.🤙
Hello from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I started following you from day 1 of the renovations. I now eagerly await Wednesdays to see your next video. You and Nick are doing an amazing job!!! I have helped my parents building a new house; remodeled a house and a townhouse. Please continue to make your videos!!! 🎉
When I did construction (many years ago) I laid or wrapped aluminum or galvanized sheet metal on my debris ramps. I always had flashing rolls on-hand so why not. Much less resistance on the ramp.
@@kelleebo1255 The price is absurd, but you can't compare a porch and an addition to a complete rebuild of what was probably on the verge of being condemned.
It says online that a permit in BC is $1000 for renovations over $100,000 - am assuming the sewar and water upgrades are prepaid for in that price to tie their water to the city? I would want a complete breakdown of costs and fees as this permit cost seems outrageous - I would question this and be anonymously contacting a contractor and asking pricing for such things! But that’s me - I fear as an influencer they are gouging you cause they think you can afford to pay it! Hoping any viewers with knowledge on city permitting rules would shed some light on this for Jenna and Nick - I am sure someone is watching!
@@kelleebo1255 well one thing is that this is all being documented through these videos so if something is 🐠 fishy it will surface eventually I think! Would the city risk being sued if they were over charging them or charging them something made up!? I’d like to think no. Time will tell. It’s a tough spot cause if they don’t pay it, they don’t get the house renovation completed.
The way that Nick says Wow..."Waaaaahhhhhw" 😂 Gets me everytime. Also, soaking wood in a 50/50 mix of diesel and used motor oil is a great way to treat wood for rot prevention.
Jenna I've smiled a lot watching you and Nick renovate the house, but today I was laughing out loud watching Sammy 3.0 bounce up and down. That, my friend, was hysterical! I can't wait for the next installment of the Jenna & Nick Show!
I am so glad I subscribed to this channel from day 1 of this renovation. A fun journey to have while sitting here sipping coffee and enjoying the progress. ☕🛠👷♀
I’m so sorry that was so expensive, but on the bright side watching the two of you work together brings me so much joy. You a so sweet and respectful to each other. And you both work so hard and never really complain. It’s amazing. Sending so much love and positive energy to you both.
I am continually impressed with how hard you guys work. Also, with how clean and organized you are with all the waste. Such an amazing view, I can’t wait to see how all this goes.
To renovate our house we had a tearing down the house party…invited several friends and family…BYOT…bring your own fav demolition tools…removed two roofs, two whole rooms down to the slab and removed a porch in 1 day. Cost us a keg of beer and some pizza and hoagies. We had a blast. Removed and reinstalled hardwood floors, and kept enough wood that I built a playhouse for kids, shed for my lawn tractor and a woodshed…
It is so awesome to see two young people work so hard and be so resilient to bad news and setbacks. You are showing all of us how to bounce back and keep going. Role models in my eyes. Im enjoying every minute of you two doing the work! Go Jenna and Nick!!!!❤
I had a thought that while you are filming yourselves in this renovation you are cheerful little munchkins, and when the camera is off you are screaming at each other to relieve stress. If not I’m impressed as my husband of 40 years and myself cannot do a job together without him correcting me and me mostly leaving the job to him . Leaving the job has saved a homicide quite a few times. Well done to both of you.
Demolition permit for single dwelling in your municipality is $1880….building permit is based on construction value, presuming at least $9721 plus…..and I see the $2000 fine in their bylaws and charges….but don’t see how that added up to $45,000 !!! I hope they provided you a breakdown of why. And great job on the roof!
By far the BEST thing on the internet period. You are never down, or too discouraged. You lift each other up. This home has to be screaming from her missing rafters “THANK YOU” Jenna and Nick for saving me. Shame on the prior owners for letting it get to this point.
You two are extremely hard workers. What a valuable quality and what a worthwhile project. The view from your roof is mind blowing. The cost of the permit, pure robbery!
I hope you are making a good amount of money through these videos. Between that permit, the builds, and the labor of your love you are definitely saving this house from complications demo
For clarification on the permit. The $45k includes the water and sewage upgrades, this is mandatory upgrade if your home is over the age of 29 years on bigger renovations. I included that in the total cost of the permit as this was the total fee that was needed to be paid prior to receiving the permit. These are the permitting rules for the city where the house is located.
I was going to say you need to head back there as that is not normal! Thanks for the clarification. We are all routing for you!
Kind of ridiculous there is a fee at all, your taxes are supposed to pay for this stuff already.
You mean that this includes the city working to hook up your up to date pipes to the city portion? I hope it includes having inspections done as well!!
God bless. All of those permits down here in Texas (in my city at least), would cost under 5k since, as far as I know, you are not adding to the original square feet of your structure. I need to emigrate to your neck of the woods and certify for building inspector that'away is what this video is telling me. Also, usung a wheelbarrow is what I have been screaming for the past 20 or so episodes. Enjoy your new project and I hope these costs do not sink any of your plans going forward.
Your country rips you off just as much as ours does. 🤔 🧐 🤨
So, I've finally done it. The whole structural engineering office, where I work as a design engineer, watches the latest episode on Thursdays during our lunch break, even the bosses watch it in the break room. There's always something new to discover about North American timber construction.
That is so wholesome
It's soo funny seeing comments like this on a channel I was watching crochet videos haha
Yay this is such a nice image! :))
That is so awesome!!
So what’s the team’s verdict on the pole holding up the porch roof? Necessary or nah?
Mystery man is giving little brother energy
that what i was thinking 😂
For the record I'm a 35 year old male subscribing to a crocheting youtuber, no regrets.
this is the masculine energy we need more of!! 💖🙌💕
Crochet isn't just for girls!I have girls and boys! That I teach!
Lol❤❤❤
57 here
Welcome to the dark side lol. I’m a 50 year old woman living on Long Island.
3 things I have really started to appreciate about this series, 1. How well you two work together 2. You’re not afraid of hard work and 3. The great filming and camera angles. These all together make for a very enjoyable watch. keep up the good work!
Yes, they are an amazing team! If that was me and my partner, it would not have been so calm and relaxed 😆
Right? Even when they're clearly frustrated and tired and annoyed with each other they never raise their voices at each other or even really give each other dirty looks. I aspire for this kind of relationship, no name calling, good teamwork, no yelling. Good soup 🤌
and amazing editing as well. Love the music choices also-fit well add to video and don't overwhelm
@@Grapefruitplatypus does anyone else feel guilty after watching these like “I am not exercising enough?” You are so right, great teamwork. I came for the flower crochet dress but that home! 👍🏻
Yes!!! All of the above!!!!❤
Structural engineer here! I can confidently say that the pole is supporting the 45 thousand dollar permit.
GOAT
most underrated comment 🤣👌
words cant explain how invested i am with this series
Me too 😊
Same!
Me too ‼️ ❤️
I totally agree 👍 ❤
Same!!
Sell 45,000 of your succulents for $1 each. Win. Win.
Or we could all "adopt" one
Hey folks - great job - one quick tip, please wear head and eye protection when you're dealing with overhead wood removal. Cheers.
That shot at the end with mystery man just creeping behind Jenna is inspired 😂
45k Canadian dollars is about 33k US dollars, 30.5k euros, or 26k pound sterling... in case anyone was wondering
I was just going to look this up, thanks!
It is still a lot of money 😢
Still crazy and im german
Thanks for the info. I had a 20’ x 12, extension put on my house not so long ago ( 6 years ) and all in it was £40k. UK sterling. Thats planning permission architect drawings all materials and construction. It has a shower and toilet room. A huge living space with stairs leading to an upstairs mezaneen bed room. Allowing for inflation maybe it would cost £50k to build now.
Which is almost $50k AUD!! (Australian)
mystery man just hovering at 22:34 felt like our most important moment of the video.
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Agreed. He is not pleased. 🥹
I was looking for this comment!
He looks exhausted, poor thing. He wishes he'd driven a harder bargain when he was hired.
He looks dejected.
Jenna, your relationship is so wholesome. You cheering on nick, him giving fun facts and the cute banter, the positive engagement, its the best. This is what i strive for in my relationship
They are couple goals for real!
She shouts ‘Go Nickie’ in bed. Sorry everyone
@@edm2189And what if she did? That stuff is supposed to be fun xD
Remember that this is a video made for public consumption with the intent of garnering the most views and retention through the entire video, in real life I'm sure the frustrations bring many moments that don't make it into the video.
@@indianaslim4971 Yeah no reason why they would show such things given this is mostly about the reno/houve. However the day-to-day treatment of each other does show they seem to put effort in their treatment of each other and communication which is pretty nice :)
It's amazing how mesmerizing it is to watch 2 complete strangers on TH-cam destroy/remodel a neat older home. Jenna took a huge chance on completely changing her channel from Crafts to home remodeling. I've been watching another guy overseas rebuild an old Chateau house that was completely burnt out in the 80s. Everytime a new video shows in my feed I get giddy like a young school boy waiting to play their favorite game with a smile on my face. I'm getting more inspired everyday to actually upload videos I make and edit but never post.
that's the first step in becoming a youtuber! LOL
What's the other TH-cam channels name? Sounds really fucking cool
Dan! I watch him too lol
@@karoline1953 It's called Escape to Rural France
please upload them, we're here to watch it!
the way i just yelled out "WHAT????" with my mouth half full of toast when you said $45,000 for the permit ... what the FUCK
Same :D minus the toast
What on earth seriously
I grew up in this area, in a house like this. My parents had it built in 1957. About a decade later, we had a (rare) huge snowfall (your area gets a lot less snow than where I lived). Late evening, the phone rang. It was the architect, just casually calling let my Dad know that it might be a good idea to shovel off the roof ... like, now ... not to wait for morning ...
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I know exactly what that's like. A few years back I had a flat-roofed commercial building in Oregon, and we had a few days of heavy snow. Around 8 PM a roof in town collapsed, and three guys I know called me to let me know. I figured maybe I should go shovel. So around 10 PM when I should have been in bed I was four stories up on the roof shoveling, for about 4 hours. It wasn't lonely though - there were crews up on the roofs of about a dozen other buildings I could see from mine, also shoveling.
That was considerate of him tho
I can't decide if this is a good architect or a bad architect. 😂
It took him awhile but by 3.0 Sammy finally understood the assignment, and threw in a self automation upgrade! 😄 I've seen many YT videos where homes like this just get torn down and replaced by McMansions, so it makes my heart happy knowing you want to bring this retro house back again, only better! If you hear a faint sounding 'go, go go!' that's just me cheering you & Nick on from Ontario. Best of luck to you both! 😊
😂😂😂 Sammy finally understood the assignment. Love it! 😂😂😂
Sammy just needs a rope to a counterweight so sammy doesn't do a forward roll.
Yeah, and the decisions they are making are super smart. That's a million-dollar view, that house, especially how nice the vernacular architecture is, and how much of the original design they are keeping, will hold and grow every penny they put in, and as likely as not with the sweat-equity and TH-cam income they are putting in, they will make their future financially sound with this couple of years of crazy expense, work, sacrifice and financial risk they are paying now. In 20 years, they will have a multimillion dollar asset, paid free and clear, their only expense will be their kid's tuition and their local tax payment. Good for them, they deserve it after the trial by fire they are making
@@Kisai_Yuki Yep - I was thinking they could bungee as a precaution. 🙂
Everybody is talking about the permit but nobody is mentioning Sammy 3.0's automatic lift action???? its just incredibleee
Jenna I’ve followed you since your Thrifting Era, then loved your Crocheting Era and now you are only 5,000 SUBS UNTIL YOU HIT 1 MILLION during your awesome MCM Reno Era! Woo hoo! 🎉 Go Jenna GO JENNA!
Architect here 👋 "Green roofs" (as we call them in my country) are actually pretty clever if done correctly. The garden on the roof will protect the building from overheating, keep some water on your plot (drought prevention) and look attractive. Also nothing wrong with flat roofs in general (if done correctly ofc), not mentioning that modernist architecture kinda requires it.
Flat roofs are just a ticking time bomb, even when everything is done correctly they can be maintenance nightmares as they are inherently bad at getting water off the roof.
Low slope roofs and clever architecture are 100% the way to go over a flat roof and honestly a higher pitched roof is all the better. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
Another architect hear to clarify - when we say “flat roof”, we mean low slope. No one in their right mind today would construct a completely flat roof. At my firm we do low slope and green roofs all the time and they work great.
Yes thank you! The no garden on the roof comments were killing my environmentalist heart
As a structural engineer my absolutely-not-professional-analysis is... "it tried". The purpose of it would have been to account for any potential snow load on the cantilevered section as well as distribute the "dead load" of the roof (the weight of the roof itself). Even if you don't get much snow by the ocean, codes would have been designed for the "worst case" storm - or at least they are now. It's potentially also functioning as a "hold down" for any wind coming off of said ocean. It looks like that overhang could have caught a lot of wind and could have lifted part of the roof if it wasn't secured correctly. The placement is actually fine, and you wouldn't want it too far towards the edge - this is an incomplete analogy, but it would be like holding up an umbrella vs a hammock. But how it's notched/connected/rusted? "It tried".
Love that you are saving some of the salvageable wood.
Yeah, I would guess 2 and a half feet of snow the weight of wet cement will end up on this structure 1 out of 25 years
$45k for a stinking permit? No wonder so many people just let their house go to crap, you can't even afford to fix it up!
Usually, a large cost in getting a permit was hiring the engineer. This project is complex for an engineer
We call that highway robbery!
Canadian dollars
@@envisionelectronicsit’s still $33,032.01! That’s insane. The most we’ve ever paid is about $3,000.
@@envisionelectronics and a Canadian permit
Working your tails off and still having energy to clean up speaks of your work ethics. You may have spent $45-grand on a permit but saved $100-grand in hiring roofers. 👍👍👍
I just realized... sure, you're demoing a good chunk of the house, but the renovations are coming too. this video series could last a solid year. i am SOOOOO excited to see what you guys do with this place!
Congrats on the permit. i know that sounds pricey, but trust me... the added cost of upgrading sewer and water will be HUGE down the road. We're redoing just our master bath and the hall bathroom here in "chez frissonic," and we've already had to redo a good chunk of the main drain lines because they were 1.5", and code is now 2". That's toilet, shower, sink... all of it. New p-traps, too.
You're going to love this house when you're done with it because it's going to be ALL you.
Hi guys, I’m a first time poster , found your channel today, and have binge watched the whole series up to date.. yes , I am free all day and every day, medically retired from work due to copd . Anyway, I have watched so many renovations on YT , your place is amazing and I can’t wait to watch the rest unfold. As a couple of young guys you have great attitudes and your content is interesting and very amusing, you are natural presenters , kudos to you both and keep up the great work and content.
Many thanks for your time , kevin from Herefordshire in the UK 🇬🇧 😬👍
$2k fine for working without a permit and $45k for the permit... Id just keep working without the permit and hope I don't rack up more than 23 fines.
Right! Hahahaha
Idk if it's the same in Canada but here if you work without a permit the state can force you to demo any work you've done to your property so permits are a necessary evil in this case
@@caesar98In the US it’s a local City or Town issue not a state over-site unless Environmental Protection Agency gets involved. Check each state constitution.
@@caesar98 not really necessary if the state never finds out. Silence is golden after all
@@Denney3382 Brilliant, and then when you're done you can't legally move into or sell the house.
Sammy has obtained self awareness.
45.000$ thats crazyyyyyy omg could you do a video where you explain the costs and everything im so invested
Structural Engineers are expensive. This project isn’t small and the house isn’t in the best shape so annoyingly enough the price kind of makes sense. But yeah seeing the prices and the scope of the work would be super interesting
They explain it all in their patreon.
@@LEX.IBA333 I'm not sure the permit cost should be attached to the cost of construction including engineers. The permit is just to allow construction within the town and is usually capped depending on the scope of the project (at least in New Jersey it is). I've done million dollar restoration projects where the permit costs were about that much but I can't imagine the need for that high permit cost from the town unless they are performing special inspections as well as the sanitary system upgrade requirement being done by the town
@GhostdogLT21 I agree, I do high-end remodels for some clients (among other things) in Los Angeles. But idk, this home seems to be pretty damaged. It is also Canada, so I don't even know what a "permit" requires in a different country. I would assume because of the state of the home that it would cost a pretty penny regardless
The permit merely allows you to do those things but the cost of doing them is separate from the permit price.
Jenna has influenced me and i bought bombas socks when i saw them in store. Definitely very comfortable and i appreciate the lack of a toe seam as an autistic person
Don't feel bad for the people living around, i'm sure they are happy the house will get fixed!
And you are so close to 1M!!
You guys work so well together. I don't think I've ever seen a TH-cam couple whose so authenticly best friends/ partners. Sammy rocks😂
A good helper is worth his weight in gold. We are retired and we have a good helper who comes and mows our lawn and helps with curting and stacking wood etc. It makes life so much easier.
Being fined for something they just tell you about is BS. Also the permit amount is insane. Unless you're getting way more than just an "OK" to do the work, that's unacceptable.
She left a comment saying it included some sewage upgrades
@@samanthaquant7411 Okey, then it makes more sense!
@@samanthaquant7411that’s the city upkeep problem why do they have to pay for it! That’s like asking them to pave there sidewalk for the city
@@richest_image Sewage connection, street and often electricity are in fact paid by developpers. The city pays for the upkeep, not the construction and I think in her case it's not just "upkeep" it's construction.
@@richest_imageplenty of places will require the homeowner or builder to build or maintain the sidewalks. The sewer and water connection is for exclusive use of this home so why would the city pay for it? It’s part of living in a community, doing the upgrades ensure the safety and cleanliness of not only the people living in the house but also neighbors.
I've done two house renovations. not one down this far. The good spirits the two of you show during something that is generally really stressful is awesome. i hope it goes well for you!
Haha I love Jenna’s little encouragements to Nick.
“Go Nicky! Go Nicky!”
This house is going to be fabulous... I'm here for all this...listen I subscribed for the crafting but I'm definitely staying for the renovation... I gotta see your final vision for this...great work you guys...I think you make a great team.
How can anyone hate on Sammy? Sammy is the best slide since the Electric Slide! ❤❤❤
Sammy for MVP!
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Considering how much u have done already im so surprised u have only broken 1 window. think u r both doing such an amazing job 🎉
U should b so proud
Love waking up Thursday mornings in Australia and seeing that you've posted your new video.
Despite it being hard work you appear to take it in your stride and I love you and Nick's humour and the music that accompanies each post.
Keep up the great work. Everyone's rooting for you ❤️
Thanks
I’ve become very invested in this series, I do wanna throw hands with the city people who have set up this system for permits being so complicated
Except, like every time you look a little deeper you find that either Jenna did zero research into the requirements (which are literally spelled out on the Cities website under Building> Permits) OR and I am thinking this is more likely is playing damsel in distress for an audience who doesn't know better.
I think honestly I'm going to walk away from this series because my ability to suspend belief that she is this obtuse to the ways this was ALWAYS going to go, especially given how she claims to be working with engineers
Go get a magnet broom. Check regularly for nails.
I know that things are not always sunshine and rainbows, but I really appreciate how you two work so well together with kindness, pluck, and humor. ❤
You are both so clever and patient and kind and working really hard. I just applaud you! Even though my back hurts to watch you.
Thanks!
So glad that you are saving a bunch of the wood! It is beautiful! It is so sturdy,for the most part,and since it is old growth whatever,it is better than modern wood.Hope it gets re-used in the remake in such a way as to exemplify the beauty of it!
3 things leaving me with anxious anticipation, 1: How far will the deconstruction go? 2: What will be the aftermath of a heavy rain without any roof at all? 3: How many windows will get broken? I had to modify that last question since you finally answered when the first window would get broken! 😄 We love watching this project!
Go Sammy! Go Nick! Go Jenna! The view of the Straight of Georgia is spectacular! Please plan for a roof top deck! Happy belated CANADA DAY! Love you! From a land locked Albertan who wishes they were in B.C! Congrats on your permit!🤗
What about killer Kelly and dry wall dave 😂😂
I’ve recently discovered your channel and have just binge watched this project from the start.
I am in awe of your determination, teamwork and positive attitudes!
My husband and I are 3.5 years into a new home build that we’ve now had to take over from the builders we originally contracted. It’s a lot less physical work than deconstruction and Reno’s (which we’ve done previously) and watching this helps me keep our challenges in perspective.
I look forward to seeing how you restore this beauty!
I could understand them charging 45k for a water main and sewage upgrade if you were building a multi dwelling building on a lot that was previously used by a single dwelling building. But that’s not the case here. This is just another case of out of touch cities ran by out of touch boomers that treat new homeowners as their personal piggy banks. What I like about this series is seeing a young couple that takes an old decrepit neglected house and use their energy and hard work to build the house of their dreams. As a gen X, I always felt that we had it much harder than the boomers but nowadays I see that it was nothing compared to what the millennials and younger generations are living now. Homeownership in Canada has always been a powerful tool for the working class to reach financial stability. Unfortunately, this dream is no longer possible for most of the working class. Nowadays we see a lot of hard working young people with good jobs that are struggling to pay their rent. Canada is a big country, there’s a lot of space to build all the houses the population needs. The housing crisis is a totally made up situation caused by a corrupted political system. Sorry for the rant, hope you succeed in your endeavour.
Most average working people are not going to be building a new home or “renovating” a home to this extent. They aren’t average or normal and are in an already expensive area. This is well beyond a basic renovation or addition a regular person would do. Apart from the basic structure it will be an entirely new home. Since it’s going to be a new home I don’t think it’s unreasonable to require new water and sewer since the ones there are 50+ years old. Unfortunately the costs to replace services in existing neighborhoods is not cheap, something that doesn’t change based on dwelling size. I wouldn’t be surprised if they end up having to tear up part of the street to do it with how tight things are on their property. The reality is new construction costs money. I know from experience here in the states that 20k USD for water and sewer is not unreasonable.
@@Alexlfm Well, maybe I’m a fool but I naively thought that a portion of property taxes that people pay each year were supposed to be used for infrastructure maintenance. This house already had water and sewage that was paid off by the original owners. And maintenance should have been paid for with a portion of the property taxes paid over the years. So unless they are adding a bunch of bathrooms or any other elements that require an upgrade on the water main or sewage, I still don’t think that the city should charge them for upgrades. If the city doesn’t do their maintenance correctly over the years and are using people who are doing renovations as their personal piggy bank, it’s not ok.
@@Pintosonic Not sure about where you live, but here in Ohio, property taxes have little to do with infrastructure. Water and sewer upgrades are paid via what the city charges for the services. What they charge for water and sewer pay the wages of the water department employees, equipment, and maintenance. Upgrades are usually funded by fees and grants. When they have to upgrade the wastewater plant, they try to get grants and zero interest loans. They usually only upgrade water or sewer just before big paving projects as it is a waste of money to pave a road and then have to tear it up to repair a broken line in 6 months.
They charge 'tap in fees' for connecting new service to a property, or upgrading a service for bigger use to an existing property. The fee depends on how much work is involved, if they have to open up the road and repave it, etc.
@@Pintosonic No matter where you live you are responsible for the section of utilities from the home to the main be it water sewer or electrical. No utility covers that same as most roads in HOA subdivisions here in the states are the responsibility of the homeowner. When they need to be replaced the homeowners pay the cost. Lower utility costs come at a price; if it was all inclusive it would cost an absolute fortune and you would be paying for new builds and your neighbors repair. The only thing unique to Canada is the fact that the utility themselves does the work however knowing what it costs here in the states the price is the same as a private contractor.
The fact is this will be classified as a new home. The minute you take all the rafters and internal walls out it’s not the same structure anymore. That means it’s service life is reset and so the city requires new services that are built to modern standards (their electrical service I can already tell isn’t nearly enough for a new home and they’re going to have to pay for that to be upgraded too). This house likely has vulnerable clay (which would be towards the end of its service life) or at best concrete sewers and could very well have leaded water mains.
There’s plenty of stupid zoning requirements, permit requirements for basic things and slow moving building departments to complain about but requiring new services up to code on a new house in a multimillion neighborhood isn’t one of them. If you don’t take your roof and rafters off or tear out every one of your internal walls you don’t face these requirements.
well said 👏
I just want to thank you so much for sharing your house renovation with us. Sammy cracked me up today with the mind of her own.😂👏🏼 The both of you are doing an awesome job.
I had to remove my deck recently and did the same underside-hitting of the floorboards, so I know how much of a workout that is. And has anyone else noticed that all the roof removal and demo work, Jenna's Deltoids and SUPER defined right now. !! Maybe not a gun show, but definitely some type of weapon!!
Sammy 3.0 has an automatic dumping function. You just need to add the auto return. I was afraid Jenna would fall off the roof trying to catch it.
Congratulations on your permit! The view you have is so stunning. Don’t forget to take a moment here and there to soak it in. You guys are such an amazing team. Thanks for taking us all on your journey 😊
lol, great save Jenna! Congratulations on the permit! I hope when you finish this place, you buy another one and fix it so we can watch. You guys are so upbeat and bring me joy. Thank you!
No wonder houses like this are being left to fall down. The city really needs to consider what they can do to save older homes.
They are left to fall down because the value now lies in the building lot, not the structure. Their’s was listed for $2.5 mil, a neighbouring property was listed at $2.8 mil. in an area where the average new home price is in the 4-12 million range. People with the money to live here want a new modern build, unless it’s a MCM of a famous architect. lol.🤙
Did she say $45,000? She said $45,000 right? Holy Renovation Hell!
IKR?!!😳 I almost had a spasm when I heard the amount.
Right? I hope they got to pay that in installments and not all at once!
Is paying for is with sponsorship
I asked my husband 3 times to make sure I heard right. Crazy!!!
I mean, the run down home cost was 2.1mil so 45k seems like pennies, despite being more than expected.
Man, I hate it when I underestimate something by 3 orders of magnitude.
Congrats on the permit!! 🎉
0:43 those few seconds of silence were almost not enough for me to get my jaw off the floor
I think "flashing" is Jenna's favorite construction term. She always says it so confidently
I am extremely invested in this series, crazy to think that some day we’ll be watching you decorate the inside of your new house. I am so excited!
These videos are so relaxing for me. My family has renovated every house we've lived in, so these videos are comfy!
‼️Let's get this incredible young woman to 1 million subscribers ‼️
That would be great! I just hope they don't wind up in a Canadian jail,just for trying to reparate their own house.
Hello from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I started following you from day 1 of the renovations. I now eagerly await Wednesdays to see your next video. You and Nick are doing an amazing job!!! I have helped my parents building a new house; remodeled a house and a townhouse.
Please continue to make your videos!!! 🎉
When I did construction (many years ago) I laid or wrapped aluminum or galvanized sheet metal on my debris ramps. I always had flashing rolls on-hand so why not. Much less resistance on the ramp.
OMG, that province is killing reno business. Here in Ontario, we got a permit for front porch & new addition on the back for 250$😢
@@kelleebo1255 The price is absurd, but you can't compare a porch and an addition to a complete rebuild of what was probably on the verge of being condemned.
It says online that a permit in BC is $1000 for renovations over $100,000 - am assuming the sewar and water upgrades are prepaid for in that price to tie their water to the city? I would want a complete breakdown of costs and fees as this permit cost seems outrageous - I would question this and be anonymously contacting a contractor and asking pricing for such things! But that’s me - I fear as an influencer they are gouging you cause they think you can afford to pay it! Hoping any viewers with knowledge on city permitting rules would shed some light on this for Jenna and Nick - I am sure someone is watching!
@trevorlambert4226 I agree you can't compare. But the permit should not be that much. The city is horrible to charge that much.
@@kelleebo1255 well one thing is that this is all being documented through these videos so if something is 🐠 fishy it will surface eventually I think! Would the city risk being sued if they were over charging them or charging them something made up!? I’d like to think no. Time will tell. It’s a tough spot cause if they don’t pay it, they don’t get the house renovation completed.
I realize one reason I like watching is that it has the same good vibe as shows like Real Renos and Holmes on Homes.
45K... Thank god for sponsorships! I'll be happy to watch the ads. Hope it helps a little.
The way that Nick says Wow..."Waaaaahhhhhw" 😂 Gets me everytime. Also, soaking wood in a 50/50 mix of diesel and used motor oil is a great way to treat wood for rot prevention.
The way you two work together is beautiful. I’m sure stressful at time but this is an amazing journey to witness and it’s incredibly inspiring.
Currently your videos are my highlight of the week.
Jenna I've smiled a lot watching you and Nick renovate the house, but today I was laughing out loud watching Sammy 3.0 bounce up and down. That, my friend, was hysterical! I can't wait for the next installment of the Jenna & Nick Show!
Permit price is outrageous, you should have asked if they were coming to help!
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Technically I think they are, if the city is upgrading the utilities as part of it.
I am so glad I subscribed to this channel from day 1 of this renovation. A fun journey to have while sitting here sipping coffee and enjoying the progress. ☕🛠👷♀
I’m so sorry that was so expensive, but on the bright side watching the two of you work together brings me so much joy. You a so sweet and respectful to each other. And you both work so hard and never really complain. It’s amazing. Sending so much love and positive energy to you both.
Humor is essential when faced with a daunting task.😂
I am continually impressed with how hard you guys work. Also, with how clean and organized you are with all the waste. Such an amazing view, I can’t wait to see how all this goes.
That water view!💙🩵
To renovate our house we had a tearing down the house party…invited several friends and family…BYOT…bring your own fav demolition tools…removed two roofs, two whole rooms down to the slab and removed a porch in 1 day. Cost us a keg of beer and some pizza and hoagies. We had a blast.
Removed and reinstalled hardwood floors, and kept enough wood that I built a playhouse for kids, shed for my lawn tractor and a woodshed…
It is so awesome to see two young people work so hard and be so resilient to bad news and setbacks. You are showing all of us how to bounce back and keep going. Role models in my eyes. Im enjoying every minute of you two doing the work! Go Jenna and Nick!!!!❤
I had a thought that while you are filming yourselves in this renovation you are cheerful little munchkins, and when the camera is off you are screaming at each other to relieve stress. If not I’m impressed as my husband of 40 years and myself cannot do a job together without him correcting me and me mostly leaving the job to him . Leaving the job has saved a homicide quite a few times. Well done to both of you.
Demolition permit for single dwelling in your municipality is $1880….building permit is based on construction value, presuming at least $9721 plus…..and I see the $2000 fine in their bylaws and charges….but don’t see how that added up to $45,000 !!! I hope they provided you a breakdown of why. And great job on the roof!
Getting sooo close to a million!!🎉🎉🎉
Nick & Jenna are so generous with their words of affirmation, it's lovely to watch each week.
By far the BEST thing on the internet period. You are never down, or too discouraged. You lift each other up. This home has to be screaming from her missing rafters “THANK YOU” Jenna and Nick for saving me. Shame on the prior owners for letting it get to this point.
well i'm guessing the former owners hit a rough patch, had some problems, maybe they need our compassion more than blame
Almost at the one million subs! yay for a Permit! 45k wtf?!
It's a miracle if that was the first broken window! Likely they all must be replaced anyway to meet energy standards. Great job!
I love the "sorry love... delivery... pizza delivery" and then he just walks away. You two kill me with your kindness!
It’s amazing the amount you two have accomplished on this house! You guys deserve so much success with the intense hard work you put in.
I like reno shows, but I love your show, because of your relationship. It makes me happy inside how cute you two are. ❤❤❤
I just know a timelapse for this roof work would have been sooooo satisfying
They should do one once the new roof is built and film that as well. Then a time-lapse of whole broken roof-removed-rebuilt can be done.
@@majbratlove these ideas❤
$45,000 is heinous! I loved Jenna's pause for effect.
45k permit, I have never heard of such a thing...insane
You two are extremely hard workers. What a valuable quality and what a worthwhile project. The view from your roof is mind blowing. The cost of the permit, pure robbery!
I hope you are making a good amount of money through these videos. Between that permit, the builds, and the labor of your love you are definitely saving this house from complications demo
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A roof terrace would be amazing with that breathtaking view 😍
Is no one else going to acknowledge the person just standing there at 22:34??
Mystery Man trying to stay out of the shot. 😊
I was so amused by that. I don’t think he knew he was in the shot, or just wanted to be funny (and succeeded) 😆
LOLOL. I came to the comments for this 😂
I just assumed he was younger relative
I think the mystery man is Jenna's younger brother who was paid handsomely to help out.
i just like how fluff jenna went into buff jenna this year. also, hello to more subscribers!!! she deserves it!
So excited that this finally came through for you guys! Looking forward to watching the project progress