I like the color of the new Low Rider ST El Diablo edition although I think if you want to charge more and call it a limited edition then they should have changed alot more then just the paint and speakers. A total blacked out version along with the paint and a few more custom items. Then I can see the justification to try and buy one. I can still do a killer paint job for under 6K, add the speakers and still have a bad ass bike.
First time on your channel so there's my entire view and my like , in hopes you reach your goal to 4 million or at least the opportunity to own that new age fxr... As for me am happy with my fxrls and have big plans for her.
I love the paint job. I need to win the lotto so I can buy more bikes 😂🤣. Great discussion on the El Diablo! As always you bring a lot of information to the table. Take care Mike✌
For that kinda of money it should have come with a sissy bar and passenger seat and pegs and should have had the speedo on the tank if it going to be called an icon model other than that's it's still an low rider st
I love my Cardo comm unit with JBL speakers. 1990’s boom boxes so 1990’s. Loud pipes are enough. Other bike/car manufacturers offer new paint, horsepower, and electronics every year. Harley primarily new paint every year. GM in 2008 had to go thru bankruptcy trying to catch up to Global competition with similar business model. $30,000. Take a 200 horsepower V4 Ducati Multistrada with electronic suspension and radar adaptive cruise control/blind spot. Buy a Rocket 3 and add a nice paint job. Both bikes no stage 2-4 needed. Power from the factory. EPA starting to come after tuner equipment, tuner shops. More ECU’s will be locked from factory. Euro 6 around the corner. What do you think of the bagger R18 BMW?
I ride without helmet a lot so speakers are a plus for me. I would like to Ride one (BMW R18) but I ride in a forward control position a lot even on my bagger so not sure I could adapt to it.
Hi Mike, my dealer has extended to me first refusal when the bike hits the floor. Initially, i was really pumped. For various reasons , I’ve been noticing a fair amount of negative rhetoric toward this bike. I must confess, now I’m torn. Especially since B. Richards said there are some really cool and desirable icon models in the pipeline. Any thoughts ?
I haven’t seen anything negative other than some people think the premium is to high for a limited edition with this paint set. That being said for 8 months I been thinking this is coolest icon they could come out with, some would like it to be more retro like having a sissy bar. Personally for my taste it’s perfect, I want a modern bike for 28k, if I wanted it to be more retro I would just buy and build an old bike… I love old bikes for show but not to ride daily
As a 21 Softail Standard wfactory touring edition owner who has been shopping for more hp , I just secured this new model with my local dealer. Ill pick it up probably mid October. They where very surprised since was the first person who called about, so I jumped on the opportunity to secure it. Not all dealers are going to get one, so I Swooped it. More hp, rolling tunes , cool color and a limited production...uh no brainer Over-priced ?...its a matter of opinion.
I love the paint job, but I work for local government, so I don’t love the price. I would like a better suspension for that amount of money, let me figure out my own audio. I agree with a different exhaust. I would also change out the bars. You can’t say this bike isn’t worth the money, because I bet they sell out, it’s just more than most of us can afford.
I don't get the craze going on over these LRST's. Everybody wants one all of a sudden but at those prices just like the sharks say, "I'm out". I can barely afford the bike I've got, but hey I'm old and retired and I have not test drove one of them yet. Maybe if I could test drive one it would it would open my eyes to it but I still can't buy one. Thanks for sharing and take care.
Well Mike , I hope you do get 2 million Views , Because then you will be able to Get "El $$$EXPENSIVO$$$ Diablo won't Ya. They really need to put Thier THINKING CAPS on and set a Bike up thoroughly with Well Equipped Brakes and Top of the Line Progressive Suspension from Ohlins or Fox , And instead of saying , Oh ...... It can do this and do that , Deliver us a Bike that is not just a Show Pony .
Well being it’s new there’s not a lot of accessories yet. But maybe premium suspension and a different exhaust… of course that would run the price up even more.
@@RidingintheOzarks exactly. It's a very nice bike mate. I just mean they pushed the boat out with the styling of the last Icon bike, but this one seems to be just a nice paint job. Which is not alot for the amount of money it costs
Mike, I loved the paint, the candy effect and the graphics… even though I own a 2020 Low Rider S (which is an amazing bike) I’d get one El Diablo if I could. The paint itself is worth of the extra price tag As you said, the challenge is to find one and the dealer who sells it at MSRP (heard that many dealers in US are charging way more than the MSRP…. True?) The problem: neither the ST nor the El Diablo are/will be available here in Brazil
I hear many dealers are gouging well above MSRP, my Local dealer is an MSRP dealer and I haven't been shopping for bike so it is truly hard to say first hand but that is the popular opinion... Is the Sportglide available in Brazil?
@@RidingintheOzarks - Yep, we do have the Sport Glide available here as we have the Breakout also. Even though Brazil has an assembly line in the Trade Free zone of Manaus, and a full subsidiary office in Sao Paulo, the model mix is determined by the USA. Currently, we have the Softail line available, except the Street Bob, Softail STD and Low Rider ST (starting at 21.100 dollars OTD with the Low Rider S) and the Specials and Limited on the Touring range (the Ultra Limited being the most expensive at 30.447 OTD) - those prices are today's exchange at 1 BRL = 0.1925 USD
@@dr.danmorel the reason I ask is the Sportglide is essentially a low rider with a different fairing and smaller motor. I’m wondering when a SportGlide owner will do Low Rider Bars and a LOW RIDER ST fairing to make a Sportglide look like a Low Rider ST. For someone that doesn’t care about the bigger motor and dual disc brakes it might make sense….
I've been waiting weeks for the speaker for my low rider st. They just pushed my order out 23 weeks, how did they get speakers for these overpriced low rider st? Harley Davidson is really starting to pass me off.
I waited 3 months and I would still be waiting if it was not for another you tuber (can't remember the name) call out some HD in SoCal that actually had some in stock. I called Glendale HD and they had one left and of course I bought it and had them ship it to me. You might want to call around to a bunch of different HD to see if they got any in stock. Just a thought
@@chriscrain2878 if you do all the sanding, priming, wet sanding.. then drop it at paint shop your about 100 bucks in for supplies before you drop it off. 1900-2400 for paint and clear only should be about right for a similar job. Most paint shops in my area cost 4500 if they do an entire repaint from scratch on their own for a full size bagger similar to what is on the Diablo
Imagine having no innovation and your entire efforts go into shiny paint jobs this year... we just had the Apex paint colors and now we have red. The original had chrome and wasn't blacked out. You would expect that for a five thousand dollar premium for the paint you would think they could have painted that panel below the seat. Sorry, I just have to laugh anymore. Considering how much of a markup the Low Rider ST bikes had in my metro area this one is going to be silly. I expect anyone getting out for under 35k will be lucky. I get it, the paint looks good, but 5k for custom paint on a motorcycle is just a bad joke to me. However Zeist is all about cost cutting so his only option to exploit money from buyers is fancy paint. Harley sure cannot compete on suspensions and quality of life features. So go with the only card they have in the deck. (oh I still voted thumbs up so if a downvote did happen it won't be me)
I get it, just cause you don't like the product doesn't mean its a bad video LOL, i appreciate that. I am undecided if HD is playing the only cards they can due to economy and supply chain issues or its just a money grab. I want them to stay afloat and many manufacturers are struggling so I am going to give them a little slack. Car Dealers are doing same shit, 5-10K over MSRP for high demand models.
OH LORD WON'T YOU BUY ME A 2022 HARLEY DAVIDSON FXRST Low Rider EL DIABLO, My friends all ride Dressers ,Honda;s , Spyders and Indians ,I must make a mends ..............
What a waste of money. $7000 extra for a paint job you see best when your not on the bike and a stereo with equalizer that you listen to while wearing a helmet. Maybe I'd spend a couple of extra bucks for something other than black. Let's be honest, it's eye candy. "... We won't get fooled again..."
The paint really come down to $5k and it being a limited edition adds a small amount of value. I don’t wear a helmet much in the summer. I’m sure other colors will be offered next year at the standard price increases.
Actually the first Low Rider was introduced in 1977, 14 years before the first Dyna. As a Dyna Low Rider owner I understand how you feel and it really bothered me at first but I guess I have gotten over it. I wonder if FXR guys felt same way about the Dyna low rider, I get they are similar but a Dyna is not an FXR…
@@michaelgaines288 the first softails had twin shocks they were just hidden, under the bike. I get what your saying and I use to feel same way I have just let it go, I’m sure Evo Sportster guys don’t like the new sportsters being called Sportster’s
@@RidingintheOzarks I understand. I guess that I am old and I don't like change. LOL. I enjoy your videos and find them very informative. Keep doing what you do!!!
Got one. Got TAB slip-ons, S&S 475 cam, dyno-tuned, and it is a fricken beast. Looks good, sounds great, its an awesome bike.
I prefer this color over the black or grey one since red my favorite color
paintwork looks amazing ;;
Hope you get the 2 million views. It would look great in your garage.
Beautiful paint job! I would love to have this in. StreetGlide!
They should manufacture the fxrt with updated engine, transmission etc. And price it reasonably.
I like the color of the new Low Rider ST El Diablo edition although I think if you want to charge more and call it a limited edition then they should have changed alot more then just the paint and speakers. A total blacked out version along with the paint and a few more custom items. Then I can see the justification to try and buy one. I can still do a killer paint job for under 6K, add the speakers and still have a bad ass bike.
I get that, I heard some say speakers kit for LRST is 23 week wait…
Good stuff- love the look !
First time on your channel so there's my entire view and my like , in hopes you reach your goal to 4 million or at least the opportunity to own that new age fxr...
As for me am happy with my fxrls and have big plans for her.
Cool thanks!
Nice colour for collecting
Good call! I remember that. Somehow....
I’m sure I wasn’t the only one that said it but nice to see it come true!
I love the paint job. I need to win the lotto so I can buy more bikes 😂🤣. Great discussion on the El Diablo! As always you bring a lot of information to the table. Take care Mike✌
It is amazing in the sun and hand applied. The level of detail in the paint is crazy.
For that kinda of money it should have come with a sissy bar and passenger seat and pegs and should have had the speedo on the tank if it going to be called an icon model other than that's it's still an low rider st
The dealership I work for got one of these already.
Sweet!
For a "Collectable" from HD,I would have thought there would be more custom parts. Just sayin.
👍👍👍 exactly what I thought
I love my Cardo comm unit with JBL speakers. 1990’s boom boxes so 1990’s. Loud pipes are enough. Other bike/car manufacturers offer new paint, horsepower, and electronics every year. Harley primarily new paint every year. GM in 2008 had to go thru bankruptcy trying to catch up to
Global competition with similar business model. $30,000. Take a 200 horsepower V4 Ducati Multistrada with electronic suspension and radar adaptive cruise control/blind spot. Buy a Rocket 3 and add a nice paint job. Both bikes no stage 2-4 needed. Power from the factory. EPA starting to come after tuner equipment, tuner shops. More ECU’s will be locked from factory. Euro 6 around the corner. What do you think of the bagger R18 BMW?
I ride without helmet a lot so speakers are a plus for me. I would like to Ride one (BMW R18) but I ride in a forward control position a lot even on my bagger so not sure I could adapt to it.
Hi Mike, my dealer has extended to me first refusal when the bike hits the floor. Initially, i was really pumped. For various reasons , I’ve been noticing a fair amount of negative rhetoric toward this bike. I must confess, now I’m torn. Especially since B. Richards said there are some really cool and desirable icon models in the pipeline. Any thoughts ?
I haven’t seen anything negative other than some people think the premium is to high for a limited edition with this paint set. That being said for 8 months I been thinking this is coolest icon they could come out with, some would like it to be more retro like having a sissy bar. Personally for my taste it’s perfect, I want a modern bike for 28k, if I wanted it to be more retro I would just buy and build an old bike… I love old bikes for show but not to ride daily
As a 21 Softail Standard wfactory touring edition owner who has been shopping for more hp , I just secured this new model with my local dealer. Ill pick it up probably mid October. They where very surprised since was the first person who called about, so I jumped on the opportunity to secure it. Not all dealers are going to get one, so I Swooped it.
More hp, rolling tunes , cool color and a limited production...uh no brainer
Over-priced ?...its a matter of opinion.
Congrats if I had the cash I would be making the same call.
Trading the Standard in, yes of course.
@@RidingintheOzarks Thanks dude!
I love the paint job, but I work for local government, so I don’t love the price. I would like a better suspension for that amount of money, let me figure out my own audio. I agree with a different exhaust. I would also change out the bars. You can’t say this bike isn’t worth the money, because I bet they sell out, it’s just more than most of us can afford.
I don't get the craze going on over these LRST's. Everybody wants one all of a sudden but at those prices just like the sharks say, "I'm out". I can barely afford the bike I've got, but hey I'm old and retired and I have not test drove one of them yet. Maybe if I could test drive one it would it would open my eyes to it but I still can't buy one. Thanks for sharing and take care.
I hope you get the views you need. I would love for you to have this bike!
That’s not likely to happen but it’s a nice dream, thank you!
@@RidingintheOzarks wishing you only the best brother! Love your videos
A lot of extra cash for basically a new paint job. You could paint your bike for way less
Well Mike , I hope you do get 2 million Views , Because then you will be able to Get "El $$$EXPENSIVO$$$ Diablo won't Ya.
They really need to put Thier THINKING CAPS on and set a Bike up thoroughly with Well Equipped Brakes and Top of the Line Progressive Suspension from Ohlins or Fox , And instead of saying , Oh ...... It can do this and do that , Deliver us a Bike that is not just a Show Pony .
2 million is a pipe dream but we all need dreams. Anyway I think doing ohlins or something else would have made it stand out more …
Nice bike but it will probably be 35 to 40 thousand if you can find one , thanks for the video
My local dealer sold 3 Artic Blast at MSRP. This bike maybe more popular but doesn’t matter if I don’t have 30k either way.
Good stuff, hay you have spam bots all over the last videos comments.
Someone let me know earlier today and I removed the user, do you still see them?
@@RidingintheOzarks Looks like it, I don't see it anymore!
So a Lowrider ST with a different paintjob? Seems a bit lazy to me for one of their icon bikes
Well being it’s new there’s not a lot of accessories yet. But maybe premium suspension and a different exhaust… of course that would run the price up even more.
@@RidingintheOzarks exactly. It's a very nice bike mate. I just mean they pushed the boat out with the styling of the last Icon bike, but this one seems to be just a nice paint job. Which is not alot for the amount of money it costs
Mike,
I loved the paint, the candy effect and the graphics… even though I own a 2020 Low Rider S (which is an amazing bike) I’d get one El Diablo if I could.
The paint itself is worth of the extra price tag
As you said, the challenge is to find one and the dealer who sells it at MSRP (heard that many dealers in US are charging way more than the MSRP…. True?)
The problem: neither the ST nor the El Diablo are/will be available here in Brazil
I hear many dealers are gouging well above MSRP, my Local dealer is an MSRP dealer and I haven't been shopping for bike so it is truly hard to say first hand but that is the popular opinion... Is the Sportglide available in Brazil?
@@RidingintheOzarks - Yep, we do have the Sport Glide available here as we have the Breakout also. Even though Brazil has an assembly line in the Trade Free zone of Manaus, and a full subsidiary office in Sao Paulo, the model mix is determined by the USA. Currently, we have the Softail line available, except the Street Bob, Softail STD and Low Rider ST (starting at 21.100 dollars OTD with the Low Rider S) and the Specials and Limited on the Touring range (the Ultra Limited being the most expensive at 30.447 OTD) - those prices are today's exchange at 1 BRL = 0.1925 USD
@@dr.danmorel the reason I ask is the Sportglide is essentially a low rider with a different fairing and smaller motor. I’m wondering when a SportGlide owner will do Low Rider Bars and a LOW RIDER ST fairing to make a Sportglide look like a Low Rider ST. For someone that doesn’t care about the bigger motor and dual disc brakes it might make sense….
It’s perfect beautiful bike.
At $39,995 its bit to dear
😎👍
More chrome
That price point for some speakers and a red paint job? You may have called it Mike but Ol’ Cornbread ain’t buying it at that price point.
I get that, I didn’t say it was cheap, but it’s not just any old red paint job either…
16” Apes, new paint job, upswept fishtails, no just joking this is a very nice bike just not $30,000.00 worth.
I've been waiting weeks for the speaker for my low rider st. They just pushed my order out 23 weeks, how did they get speakers for these overpriced low rider st? Harley Davidson is really starting to pass me off.
Oh that sucks, 23 weeks! now you know where all the inventory is going...This supply chain issue is out of hand...
@@RidingintheOzarks not fair that they take what they had to put it on these and keep the rest of us waiting.
@@chrisnj7587 I agree. I would be upset to, hopefully someone else makes a better option soon.
I waited 3 months and I would still be waiting if it was not for another you tuber (can't remember the name) call out some HD in SoCal that actually had some in stock. I called Glendale HD and they had one left and of course I bought it and had them ship it to me. You might want to call around to a bunch of different HD to see if they got any in stock. Just a thought
Im calling it an expression of 6 grand being charged for a 2 grand paint job.
Where can you get a paint job like that for $2K. Let me know .. I'm looking for a high quality $2K painter.
@@chriscrain2878 if you do all the sanding, priming, wet sanding.. then drop it at paint shop your about 100 bucks in for supplies before you drop it off. 1900-2400 for paint and clear only should be about right for a similar job. Most paint shops in my area cost 4500 if they do an entire repaint from scratch on their own for a full size bagger similar to what is on the Diablo
I got one if you got $38,000
It’s a beautiful ride
Imagine having no innovation and your entire efforts go into shiny paint jobs this year... we just had the Apex paint colors and now we have red. The original had chrome and wasn't blacked out. You would expect that for a five thousand dollar premium for the paint you would think they could have painted that panel below the seat. Sorry, I just have to laugh anymore. Considering how much of a markup the Low Rider ST bikes had in my metro area this one is going to be silly. I expect anyone getting out for under 35k will be lucky.
I get it, the paint looks good, but 5k for custom paint on a motorcycle is just a bad joke to me. However Zeist is all about cost cutting so his only option to exploit money from buyers is fancy paint. Harley sure cannot compete on suspensions and quality of life features. So go with the only card they have in the deck.
(oh I still voted thumbs up so if a downvote did happen it won't be me)
I get it, just cause you don't like the product doesn't mean its a bad video LOL, i appreciate that. I am undecided if HD is playing the only cards they can due to economy and supply chain issues or its just a money grab. I want them to stay afloat and many manufacturers are struggling so I am going to give them a little slack. Car Dealers are doing same shit, 5-10K over MSRP for high demand models.
OH LORD WON'T YOU BUY ME A 2022 HARLEY DAVIDSON FXRST Low Rider EL DIABLO, My friends all ride Dressers ,Honda;s , Spyders and Indians ,I must make a mends ..............
What a waste of money. $7000 extra for a paint job you see best when your not on the bike and a stereo with equalizer that you listen to while wearing a helmet. Maybe I'd spend a couple of extra bucks for something other than black. Let's be honest, it's eye candy. "... We won't get fooled again..."
The paint really come down to $5k and it being a limited edition adds a small amount of value. I don’t wear a helmet much in the summer. I’m sure other colors will be offered next year at the standard price increases.
Harley needs to stop using the Low Rider name on these softails. The low Rider has always been and should always be a Dyna!!!!
Actually the first Low Rider was introduced in 1977, 14 years before the first Dyna. As a Dyna Low Rider owner I understand how you feel and it really bothered me at first but I guess I have gotten over it. I wonder if FXR guys felt same way about the Dyna low rider, I get they are similar but a Dyna is not an FXR…
@@RidingintheOzarks Even the FXR was a twin shock bike!
@@michaelgaines288 the first softails had twin shocks they were just hidden, under the bike. I get what your saying and I use to feel same way I have just let it go, I’m sure Evo Sportster guys don’t like the new sportsters being called Sportster’s
@@RidingintheOzarks I understand. I guess that I am old and I don't like change. LOL.
I enjoy your videos and find them very informative. Keep doing what you do!!!
@@michaelgaines288 thank you sir. Have a great week!
That paint job and graphics looks like a van from the 70's. Not impressed.
You realized it is supposed to be a tribute to bike from like the 70’s so I would say they nailed it